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  Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Ben Mahler
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  Speaker 2: This is the best of the Ben Maler Show on
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  Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.
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  Speaker 3: We started off with some champions over here.
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  Speaker 4: Huh. We crowned a champ on Tuesday night as the
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  Speaker 4: Florida Panthers win back to back Stanley Cupps over the
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  Speaker 4: Edmonton Oilers and basically the entire country of Canada.
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  Speaker 3: I think is what happened.
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  Speaker 4: Right there is Canada trying to win a Stanley Cup
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  Speaker 4: for the first time since ninety three. Did not happen
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  Speaker 4: yet again and Florida goes back to back.
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  Speaker 3: This is actually the final call.
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  Speaker 4: You gotta love the final call of a Stanley Cup
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  Speaker 4: series clinching.
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  Speaker 3: Win unless you root for the other team. Of course.
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  Speaker 4: This is on the Panthers Radio network. Check this out
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  Speaker 4: down to the final five seconds.
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  Speaker 1: Rats, rain down Lort, Stanley's stay in South Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Last year was greatness.
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  Speaker 3: This time it's historic.
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  Speaker 4: The Florida Panthers hurt back to back Stanley Cup champions. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: now I have lots to say about this. First off,
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  Speaker 4: props to Rats rain Down. I love that. That's the
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  Speaker 4: whole thing with the Florida Panthers. They throw rats, not
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  Speaker 4: real rats, but just like fake rats on the ice.
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  Speaker 4: There was a hat trick for Sam reyan Hart and
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  Speaker 4: they actually scored four goals in the game, tied an
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  Speaker 4: NHL record for the most goals in a Stanley Cup
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  Speaker 4: final game. But they throw these fake rats on the
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  Speaker 4: ice to get a hat trick, and so I love that.
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  Speaker 4: Like at the end, you know they're about to win
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  Speaker 4: the Cup and all the fake rats are being thrown
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  Speaker 4: on the ice. Now that was that was spontaneous. That
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  Speaker 4: was impromptu right there, Rats rained Down. It's a good
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  Speaker 4: drop right there.
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  Speaker 3: But the end.
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  Speaker 4: Not a fan of the end. I swear these broadcasters
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  Speaker 4: and listen, I'm guilty of it too. It's you almost
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  Speaker 4: have to guard against it because it does help on
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  Speaker 4: one hand, you know, like if you're doing sports radio
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  Speaker 4: play by play, it does help a little bit to
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  Speaker 4: write a few ideas down. But I feel like in
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  Speaker 4: play by play especially, you can tell when it's just
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  Speaker 4: so preorchestrated and you're like, that's just not spontaneous. It
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  Speaker 4: doesn't feel like you're just in the moment when you
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  Speaker 4: say something where it's like you didn't just come up
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  Speaker 4: with that, clearly you thought about it. Like Jim Nantz
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  Speaker 4: is doing the Super Bowl in Vegas and he's like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, all right, I gotta think of something here,
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  Speaker 4: regardless of who wins, if it's the Chiefs or it's
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  Speaker 4: the forty nine ers, how about jackpot? Huh Vegas jackpot? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: let's do that. He didn't think of that right on
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  Speaker 4: the spot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Vegas.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So some of that stuff, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe I'm too picky when it comes to that, but
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  Speaker 4: I do love the spontaneous calls, and I just don't
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  Speaker 4: buy that it was spontaneous to be like last year
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  Speaker 4: was I forget what he said? Last year was something?
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  Speaker 4: This year it's historic something along those lines. I think
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  Speaker 4: that was a premeditated call right there. That's a pre
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  Speaker 4: meditated call if I've ever heard one. But I don't
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  Speaker 4: want to rain on the on the parade, which I am.
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  Speaker 4: I'm raining on the play by play call. But the
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  Speaker 4: con smythe trophy that is the NHL's very fancy way
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  Speaker 4: of saying the MVP.
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  Speaker 3: This was the announcement on TNT. Here you go.
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  Speaker 6: It's only fitting that this year it goes to the
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  Speaker 6: leading goal.
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  Speaker 3: Scorer Bennett.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, Sam Bennett Studeley throughout the NHL playoffs he wins
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  Speaker 4: the con smythe otherwise known as the MVP. I think
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  Speaker 4: that's easier to understand. But whatever, the NHL plays by
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  Speaker 4: its own rules, it's fine, you know, and Bennett was
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  Speaker 4: deserving for sure. I thought Brad marshand was tremendous in
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  Speaker 4: the final. He was on the short list. My guy,
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  Speaker 4: Bob SERGEI, Bobrovski. He was awesome throughout the Stanley Cup Final.
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  Speaker 4: The goalie for the Florida Panthers, very hard to score on,
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  Speaker 4: won a handful of bets just playing his saves over.
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  Speaker 4: I think there was only one game in the six
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  Speaker 4: game series where he went under. It was Game five.
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  Speaker 4: There weren't as many shots on goal, but that dude
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  Speaker 4: was just stopping puck after puck after puck throughout the series.
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  Speaker 3: So shout out to Bob and as.
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  Speaker 4: Far as Edmund goes, what do you know, the musical
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  Speaker 4: goalies thing? Not a great approach, not the greatest of
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  Speaker 4: approaches right there. They've done this throughout the playoffs as well.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't just the Stanley Cup Final. Edmonton had been
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  Speaker 4: switching between Stuart Skinner and Calvin Pickard, and they got
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  Speaker 4: away with it earlier in the NHL playoffs, but not
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  Speaker 4: as much in the Stanley Cup Final. The cliffs Notes version,
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  Speaker 4: if you fast forward to the final, Game four wasn't
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  Speaker 4: going very well for Skinner.
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  Speaker 3: He gets yanked. Pickard goes in there and plays great.
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  Speaker 4: He stops like twenty one of twenty two shots right
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  Speaker 4: around that, actually twenty two of twenty three shots he
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  Speaker 4: stopped off the bench in game four, and so the
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  Speaker 4: Oilers are like, well, the heck with it, Let's roll
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  Speaker 4: with this guy. He's actually stopping shots. Let's go with
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  Speaker 4: Pickard in game five. Game five not as good, not
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  Speaker 4: as good for Pickard. Edmonton lost five to two. So
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  Speaker 4: Edmonton's like all right heading into Tuesday night Game six,
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  Speaker 4: backs against the Wall, trying to stave off elimination. Right,
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  Speaker 4: let's go back to Skinner let's go back to the
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  Speaker 4: guy who we just revoked all of his confidence from him.
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  Speaker 4: We just stole it like a thief in the night,
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  Speaker 4: like two games ago. You suck, Let's get you out
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  Speaker 4: of the game.
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  Speaker 3: Now, you know what.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's something about this Skinner guy. You know
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  Speaker 4: last year when we were down three to nothing, we
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  Speaker 4: stuck with Skinner and bye gosh. He was good for
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  Speaker 4: three straight games and we forced the game seven. So
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  Speaker 4: let's go with Skinner and he was not up for
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  Speaker 4: the task. Panthers won five to one, had an empty
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  Speaker 4: net goal, two empty net goals. But when Skinner gives
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  Speaker 4: up three before all the shenanigans late, it's just not
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  Speaker 4: a great outing. So listen, I'm not mister Hockey by
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  Speaker 4: any but I do know a thing or two about confidence,
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  Speaker 4: and it's I understand the thinking.
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  Speaker 3: I get it.
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  Speaker 4: On one hand, where if Skinner stinks in game four
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  Speaker 4: and this is go time, man, we need this game,
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  Speaker 4: and then you make the change Pickard goes in their plays, awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Well it kind of just rights itself where you go
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  Speaker 4: with Pickard the next game and then Pickard isn't any
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  Speaker 4: good and then you go.
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  Speaker 3: Back to Skinner. I get how we got here.
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  Speaker 4: But the end result is that it's not shocking that
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  Speaker 4: Skinner didn't play great on Tuesday night because you just
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  Speaker 4: benched him a couple of nights ago. So it's not
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  Speaker 4: that shocking to me. I understand how it happened, why
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  Speaker 4: it happened, but that's the aftermath. It's not just I
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  Speaker 4: think that's the thing. I think it's easier to get
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  Speaker 4: caught up in the game to game anario of a
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  Speaker 4: series instead of looking at the series as a whole.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, the oilers made that change, which in
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  Speaker 4: game four just that game itself made sense, but the
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  Speaker 4: series as a whole. If you're thinking, man, if we
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  Speaker 4: got to go back to Skinner, I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: this dude is gonna be like, man, I've got all
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  Speaker 4: the confidence in the world right after getting benched like
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  Speaker 4: a game and a half ago, you know, So it
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  Speaker 4: might have affected his performance in Game six, but in
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  Speaker 4: any event, shout out to the Florida Panthers getting it done.
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  Speaker 4: They are the champs back to back. Man, that's rough.
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  Speaker 4: When you lose in the Stanley Cup Final to the
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  Speaker 4: same team in two straight years, that's that's extra.
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  Speaker 3: Rough right there.
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  Speaker 4: That is and especially in the sport of hockey. I
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  Speaker 4: would feel like if I was a die hard fan
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  Speaker 4: of a particul the hockey team, I would feel like,
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  Speaker 4: we are right on the freaking doorstep. We are right there,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like a goal here, a goal there, a
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  Speaker 4: save here, save there, we might have won this thing.
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  Speaker 4: I think that makes it even harder to take, especially
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  Speaker 4: as a player, but as a fan. I mean, you
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  Speaker 4: think the nature of certain sports like basketball. Sometimes these
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  Speaker 4: basketball games we just saw Game five the other night,
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  Speaker 4: Pacers lost by eleven points. You know that a handful
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  Speaker 4: of possessions right there, You're not, Hey, if it just
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  Speaker 4: that one shot, we would have had it. There's a
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  Speaker 4: little bit more to that. I think this the nature
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  Speaker 4: of the sports has a lot to do with the
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  Speaker 4: heartache as well. And some of these Stanley Cup final
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  Speaker 4: games were just unbelievable off the charts. You know, Game
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  Speaker 4: two was tough for Edmonton, could have taken a two
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  Speaker 4: to nothing lead, they lost in double overtime. And some
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  Speaker 4: of these these games, they a couple of them got
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  Speaker 4: tied up with like twenty seconds to go, empty nets situations.
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  Speaker 3: It was wild.
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  Speaker 4: I think, all things considered, really good Stanley Cup Final.
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  Speaker 4: I thought the end, like the crescendo, left a lot
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  Speaker 4: to be desired. You know, the deciding game, Game six
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  Speaker 4: on Tuesday night, it's a five to one game. It's
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  Speaker 4: not a close game. That's a tough way to end
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  Speaker 4: the series. I hope that the NBA Finals don't end
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  Speaker 4: in similar fashion where you want it to be.
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  Speaker 5: Like.
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  Speaker 4: Both game fours were tremendous NHL and NBA. That was
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  Speaker 4: the in the NHL, that was the five to four
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  Speaker 4: Edmondson win. Edmonton was down three to nothing in that game.
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  Speaker 4: They tied it up, they took the lead, then Florida
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  Speaker 4: tied it with twenty seconds to go to force overtime,
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  Speaker 4: and then Edmonton won the game. It was crazy, an
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  Speaker 4: insane win for them. In the NBA Finals Game four,
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  Speaker 4: that was the road win for okse Either down by
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  Speaker 4: ten points in the fourth quarter, they fight all the
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  Speaker 4: way back, dramatic close to the game going like a
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  Speaker 4: twelve to one run in the final couple minutes, and
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  Speaker 4: they win the game. Game fours in both NBA and
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  Speaker 4: NHL were off the charts. And that's the crazy twist
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  Speaker 4: I feel with hockey, games don't bleed into each other
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  Speaker 4: as much. Yeah, they seem to be pretty separate a
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  Speaker 4: lot of times. And that Game four masterpiece for the Oilers.
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  Speaker 4: They fight back from a three to nothing deficit. They're
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  Speaker 4: down three to nothing at the end of the first period.
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  Speaker 4: Down three to nothing is like in football, you're down
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  Speaker 4: like twenty four nothing or something right away. Good luck
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  Speaker 4: coming back from that, and they did. Edmontonton came all
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  Speaker 4: the way back, won this dramatic game in overtime. The
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  Speaker 4: series is tied up, they're going home, They've got all
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  Speaker 4: the momentum and boom smacked right in the face. Oilers
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  Speaker 4: lose five to two, and then again tonight five one one.
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  Speaker 3: That's pretty crazy. Think about that too.
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  Speaker 4: If you're an Edmonton fan after Game four, you're watching that,
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  Speaker 4: you're down three to nothing in the first period, You're like,
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  Speaker 4: this sucks. We're gonna be down three to one in
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  Speaker 4: the series. Here we go again. Not so fast. Edmonton
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  Speaker 4: comes back in epic fashion. They win the game. All right,
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  Speaker 4: we're cooking with grease.
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  Speaker 5: Let's go.
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  Speaker 4: That was the last game Edmonton won. That's the brutal
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  Speaker 4: nature of sports, right there. Man, That's the way it
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  Speaker 4: goes sometimes in any event. Props to Florida they get
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  Speaker 4: it done. They are the champions as they do it
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  Speaker 4: in back to back fashion.
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  Speaker 2: Right there, be sure to catch live editions of The
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  Speaker 2: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
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  Speaker 4: There was some drama, there was some bad blood in
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  Speaker 4: the WNBA on Tuesday night.
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  Speaker 3: There you go. You excited for this coop? I like it.
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  Speaker 3: Some enthusiasm. Beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: So the Indiana Fever they were hosting the Connecticut Son. Now,
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  Speaker 4: you might not care about the WNBA, you might not
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  Speaker 4: care about women's basketball. It's fine, might not be your
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  Speaker 4: cup of tea. I watched it all the freaking time.
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 4: And I was watching the game. Well, I actually I
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  Speaker 4: flipped over. I was watching the game and the Fever
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  Speaker 4: brore up by so much. I flipped over to the
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  Speaker 4: Liberty game started watching. They were in a They were
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  Speaker 4: in a back and forth with the Atlanta Dream and
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  Speaker 4: Jeff Schwartz, I host with him on Saturdays here on
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  Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio. He texted me and he was like,
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  Speaker 4: did you see the Sun try to punk Caitlin? And
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  Speaker 4: I said, no, I missed it. So I flipped over
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  Speaker 4: and saw that a little bit of bad blood in
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  Speaker 4: that game. So the situation here is that Caitlin Clark,
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  Speaker 4: she's being guarded by a Connecticut's Connecticut Son rookie named j. C.
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  Speaker 3: Sheldon.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so Jce she's doing her job. She's ding up
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  Speaker 4: Caitlyn Clark, and she tries to swipe down on the ball.
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  Speaker 4: She accidentally swipes down on Caitlyn's face. You know, the
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  Speaker 4: face got in the way of swiping down of the ball,
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  Speaker 4: and so she rakes Caitlyn across the face, and Caitlyn
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  Speaker 4: she's holding her face and she kind of stumbles backward
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  Speaker 4: into J. C. Sheldon, and so Caitlyn's like, get it,
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  Speaker 4: get off me. She kind of pushes j. C. Sheldon,
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  Speaker 4: you know, just not like a full on shove. It's
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  Speaker 4: just like I just got hit in the eye or
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  Speaker 4: the face, and now you're bumping into me, Like, get
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  Speaker 4: off me. So she pushes Jc a little bit. And
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  Speaker 4: then that's what led to the little brew.
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  Speaker 3: Hah huh.
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  Speaker 4: You had Tina Charles rush over immediately she puts her
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  Speaker 4: face near Caitlyn's puts her finger near Kitlyn's face, and
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  Speaker 4: then Marina Maybray she ran over and she shoved Caitlyn
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  Speaker 4: to the floor.
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  Speaker 3: Ding ding ding.
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  Speaker 4: We got no holds barred action right here in the WNBA.
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  Speaker 4: So the weird part of this was Tina Charles got
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  Speaker 4: a tech, Marina Maybray got a tech for pushing Caitlin
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  Speaker 4: to the floor, and Caitlin Clark got a technical foul
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  Speaker 4: when she just you know, she got hit in the
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  Speaker 4: face and then she subtly shoved if you can do
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  Speaker 4: such a thing. J. C.
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  Speaker 3: Sheldon.
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  Speaker 4: So the Indiana Fever, they're ticked off that Caitlin Clark
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  Speaker 4: one got a technical foul and probably two that more
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  Speaker 4: didn't happen to Marina Maybury. Now me, personally, I don't
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  Speaker 4: think Maybury should have gotten tossed. They always talk about
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  Speaker 4: a flagrant two foul where it's wind up, its impact
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  Speaker 4: and then it's followed through like this was a light
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  Speaker 4: shove by Marina Maybray. I don't think she should have
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  Speaker 4: gotten tossed for that.
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  Speaker 3: That's just me.
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  Speaker 4: The Indiana Fever clearly disagreed they were ticked off. She
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  Speaker 4: did not get ejected for that. Now you fast forward
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  Speaker 4: to the very end of the game, it's payback time, baby,
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  Speaker 4: So the same player J. C. Sheldon, She's on a
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  Speaker 4: fast break. You're running right down the floor and there's
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  Speaker 4: Sophie Cunningham. Now you might not know Sophie Cunningham by name,
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  Speaker 4: but she catches headlines a lot of times because she's
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  Speaker 4: a beautiful girl. She's a blond girl, very pretty. Sometimes
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  Speaker 4: you'll see her, I don't know, videos are posted like, hey, list,
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  Speaker 4: look at what she's wearing heading into the WNBA game.
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  Speaker 3: That sort of thing.
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  Speaker 4: She was accused of hooking up with the like a
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  Speaker 4: headhun show with the Sun's slash Phoenix Mercury, the last
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  Speaker 4: team she played for. Don't know what's true, but that
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  Speaker 4: was in the news. Maybe you know her from that.
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  Speaker 4: In any event, Sophie Cunningham sees J. C. Sheldon on
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  Speaker 4: a fast break and she like, this is a great
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  Speaker 4: opportunity for some payback right here. So she grabs her
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  Speaker 4: by the head and basically throws her to the floor.
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  Speaker 4: Then there's pushing and shoving and all that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 4: So a couple of injections, Stephanie White gets the gate,
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  Speaker 4: a couple of Sun players get ejected as well. So
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  Speaker 4: it was a fun night in the WNBA. So aggressive, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: very aggressive. So a couple of things stand out one.
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  Speaker 4: It is still wild to me, and I don't I
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  Speaker 4: don't think there's a great comparison. You guys are more
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  Speaker 4: than welcome to throw a comparison my way. Can you
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  Speaker 4: think of a superstar in a league that is targeted
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  Speaker 4: by other players as much as Caitlin Clark is. I
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  Speaker 4: can't think of another example of a superstar that is
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  Speaker 4: targeted as much, you know, on the court, on the
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  Speaker 4: field of play, whatever sport we're talking about, between the lines, right,
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  Speaker 4: that sort of thing clearly targeted, not just this year,
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  Speaker 4: even Tuesday night, it's the lightest of shoves by Caitlin Clark.
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  Speaker 4: She just got raked across the face, subtle shove of J. C.
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  Speaker 3: Sheldon.
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  Speaker 4: Immediately, Tina Charles and Marina Maybray.
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  Speaker 3: Are like, I can't believe that p weord just did that.
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  Speaker 4: Shovel to the floor like they are freaking ready to go.
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  Speaker 4: They cannot wait to put Caitlyn on her backside, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And this is a sort of thing that's happened last
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  Speaker 4: year as well, was it Kennedy Carter then of the
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  Speaker 4: Chicago Sky Like there was just a simple inbounds play,
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  Speaker 4: Caitlyn was about to get the ball, and Kennedy Carter
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: just ran up and decleted her like it's I don't know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: a slant pattern in the NFL, and she's the defensive
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: back or something, and Angel Reese jumps.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Up starts clapping like crazy.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: Like the animosity toward Caitlin Clark really is next level.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: I've been trying to think of something that rivals.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: It, and.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: If we're talking about physical play and being targeted that way,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: I started to think about Michael Jordan back when we
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: had the Jordan rules with the Detroit Pistons, and I'm like,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: is that even a decent comparison? Does that even equate?
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: And I don't think it's the same thing. I think
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: that Jordan. The Pistons clearly beat the hell out of Jordan,
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: but a lot of it was within the rules. You know,
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: Jordan would come down the lane, go up to try
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: to score, and they would plant him.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Into the floor.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: You know, they would like Gronk spike him into the floor.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: But it was within the flow of the game. You're
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: not gonna see on YouTube some video where Jordan was
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: about to get the inbounds pass and you know, John
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: Sally just comes over and decletes them. A Lah Kennedy
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: Carter on Caitlyn Clark like you're not gonna find that,
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: and so, yeah, Jordan was targeted by the Pistons, but
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: it was in a different way.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: It wasn't the same way.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: With Caitlin, where there's clearly it goes beyond like that's
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: the weird thing about these WNBA players. If they just
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: came right out and said it, I would respect it
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: a lot more if they just came out and said, yeah,
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: we just don't like her, don't like her, I don't.
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: I hate to say this. It's totally a girl thing.
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: We're so catty like that, And with Caitlyn Clark being
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: the exceptional player that she is, Yeah, it's hard not
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: to do it. You don't, you know, we do it
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: passive aggressively, right, Well, well we'll pull your hair in
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: the locker room, but we're not gonna be like, oh,
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: yeah no, I don't like her.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: No, she I know, she's fine.
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: I don't not like her. She's fine.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: That's it annoys me where it's you clearly do they
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: like her?
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: That's with her? They yeah, no, no, one actually likes her.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I would have more respect if they just
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: flat out came out and said.
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: It won't do that.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: I know they won't, but that's why I don't respect it.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: When they're like, oh no, no, no, this is clearly
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: just about competition, Okay, all right, yes, Like how is
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: it benefiting you If it's just out of competition. If
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: you just knock her to the floor before the ball
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: is inbounded, that's actually hurting your team. If it's all
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: about competition, that's a bad thing. It's all sorts of
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: others stuff. If they just came round and said, look,
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: I'm over all the tension this girl gets.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: It's too much. I don't like it.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: And yeah, if I got a chance to knock her
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: to the floor, I'm gonna take it. I would totally
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: respect that. But to Loraina's point, they're not going to
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: say that. They're gonna play it off and act like,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: oh no, no, there's there's nothing extra on. No, no, no, no,
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: we're just sticking up for our teammates. No, we were
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: just you know, it's competition, it's in the flow of
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: the game.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: It's BS. It's total BS frustration.
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: It's wanding their whole lives for the WNBA to matter,
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: and then it finally does. But it's only because of
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: Caitlyn and Clark, and that's all anybody actually cares about.
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: And then when they see stories that, oh, Caitlyn Clark
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: miss five games and nobody watched the WNBA for those
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: five games, you know, or for those five days or
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: whatever it was, then you know they're just they feel invalidated,
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: and some they take their aggression out on her because
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: she's so much better than all of them.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: You're totally right, Coop.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: You laid it out where that's a lot of the
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: frustration is like and Angel Reese said this last year,
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: she was like, they watched for me too, right, Like
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: they're not just watching for one player. I wonder who
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: that one player was. She's probably talking about Djona Carrington.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Now I'm just kidding, of course, she's talking about Caitlin Clark.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: She came right out and said, you know, y'all watch
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: for me too, like they want to have.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: The limelight as well. And yeah, you're right, Coop.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: There is so much animosity where now the league is
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: finally getting better ratings and better ticket sales and it's
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: getting some relevancy, and they're like, we've been grinding for years, decades,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: and now we're finally starting to get some limelight, and
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: they don't like accepting that it's largely because of Caitlin
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: Clark and a lot of people have a problem with
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: that being the way it played out, as if it's
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Caitlin's fault, Caitlin's That's the funny thing, too, is for
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: all this drama that surrounds Caitlin, she's the least dramatic
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: person ever. She could easily make all this stuff way
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: more drama and.
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: That makes them that probably infuriates them.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, you're right about that. Look at Coop just on
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: point tonight, right, No, that's that's absolutely true. If you
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: are upset and you know you're trying to bring someone
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: down with you and they're just not taking the bait,
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: that is annoying.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: That is very annoying.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I think there's an element to that as well.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: But for all this drama that Caitlyn is connected to,
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: she's always downplayed it. She's always lessened the drama instead
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: of you know, when she's decleted by Kennedy Carter last year,
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: she could have easily been like, yeah, it was a
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: cheap shot. I don't know what that was about, and
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: just statement after statement after statement, Yeah, a bunch of
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: clowns on that team or whatever. She's just creating more
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: and more drama. She's just like, you know, hey, yeah
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: it happened.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: You know, we move on. That's it.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: She even said it on Tuesday night. There were questions
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: about Sophie Cunningham. Fair questions. It's my guy, James Boyd
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: in the Indianapolis area, totally fair questions. But Kaitlyn just
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: wants to talk about hoops. Is a little portion of
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: how it played out?
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Fowl, You think it's like defending Caitlyn or defending the team,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: or how do you view just how it opened? I
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: do it as a flager, Fowl.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: That's about the game too.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean you guys came to basketball.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think of just how you all
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: were able to pull in a second half? Caitlyn in
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: particularly the Commissioner Cup Championship.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: That's guy.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: You all want to talk about that. Let's talk about that, right.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: So it's like she's not interested in extending the drama,
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: if you will. She just wants to play basketball and
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: focus on hoops. She is the most like, can we
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: just make it about basketball?
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Can we just do that?
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: And Uh man, there's this drama just surrounds It just
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: keeps following her around.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: It is wild.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: But can you come up with an example, Coop or Lorena?
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Can you think of any athlete in any sport, in
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: any league where the league targets that star athlete the
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: way the WNBA targets Caitlin or is clearly bent about
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: the attention and the accolades, the props that she gets.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: I can't think of anything even remotely close to this.
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: No, not really, but I do have a comparison for you,
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: and I guess they didn't really get that same kind
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: of treatment, But I wonder if it's gonna be the
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: same as far as the impact. I'm wondering how close
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: she is to like Ronda Rousey for example. Right, So
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: she came in was so dominant, like better than everybody.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Else against tomato cans. But yes, go ahead, yes, but
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: that's because.
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: Wow, I'm having a flashback to like ago or whatever
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: it was. Uh No, But I mean it's because it
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: was still kind of like in its infancy, you know,
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: or like the popularity of of women's MMA fighting, you know,
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: was in its infancy, and then she came along was
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: a superstar, And I feel like it kind of like
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: even after she's gone, it drove up the popularity of
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: women's MMA. You still you see you know, you know,
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: them making the the you know, the main card or
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: the main event all the time. And I wonder if
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: she's gonna have that same effect, you know, after after
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: she's done in the w NBA, will that have Does
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: you know she inspiring lots of you know, girls that
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: wouldn't have played basketball before, and it's going to keep
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: the w NBA up or is or is you know,
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: once she's gone or once she's washed up, is it
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: just going to go back to iran?
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: Sure?
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: No, Yeah, I hear what you're saying right there. It's
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: a little bit like.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: Like that accidental we're going straight.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: That's not the one. I mean, it's a little like
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: what you're talking about.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: It makes me think of the Steph Curry effect right
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: where stuff comes along.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: He's this brilliant talent.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: He's inspiring a lot of young basketball players to play
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: the game or to try to play the game similar
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: to him, Like that, we're not trying to practice layups,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: We're trying to practice logo threes.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: You're only nine years old. Who cares like we want
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: to do this.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: It's different because the NBA has been relevant for a
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: long time. But I hear your point. You took it
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: in a bit of a different direction, which is fine.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: I just think with the rousy thing and I hear
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: your comparison. I get it from that standpoint. Yeah, it
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: makes me wonder well, I.
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: Don't remember did other female MMA fighters back in those days?
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: Did they all hate her?
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: No?
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Right, no, not like not like Caitlin.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: You didn't have comments of like, yeah, this sport has
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: been relevant for a long time. It's not just relevant
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: now because one player, you know, they never got that caddy.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Not to the same degree.
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: It gives me a Drake and Kendrick vibes.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like no one needs to see it.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, yeah, Well, feel free to hit us up
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: if you've got a comparison. I'm just thinking of the
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: way the WNBA just relishes, you know, like dropping the
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: people's elbow on Caitlin Clark if you will, during games,
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: and some of the comments that they've made that they're
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: clearly bent about the props and attention that this girl gets.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Is there a superstar in any sport, in any league
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: that's even remotely comparable to that.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: I really can't think of what.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: I think Coop came up with a pretty good example
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: with Ronda Rousey, even though I don't think it was
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: nearly as Caddy in UFC when she was doing her thing.
• 29:58
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• 30:00
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• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Okay, So, Henry Ruggs the Third is in the news again.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: He was at an event on Tuesday night. It's a
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: special release from prison. He was on special release from prison,
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: and so on Tuesday night he spoke at a Hope
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: for Prisoners event in Las Vegas, and at that event
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: he apologized to the family of a woman he killed
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: in a car crash that was nearly four years ago.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: And here to help us talk about that, Brian Horwath
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: from The Vegas Journal Vegas Review Journal joins us here
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: on Fox Sports Radio. Brian, you are at this event
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: on Tuesday night. First off, welcome man. How would you
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: describe what that event was like with Henry Ruggs the
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: Third there.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: Well, it was interesting. I mean, he really hasn't spoken
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: out at all since since really his sentencing. A few
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: years ago, so it was interesting. He was contrite, he
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: was apologetic to the family of Tina Tintor, who of
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: course died in that fiery crash back in November of
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: twenty twenty one. And you know, he also said he
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: said a couple of things that were pretty interesting, including
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: that he would like to play football again and even
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: possibly for the Raiders. I don't know if that's ever
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: going to be a realistic possibility, but he's certainly thinking
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: about trying to get in the NFL again once he
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: gets out. He'll be eligible for parole in August of
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: next year, so that's the soonest that he would he
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: would get out.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: Interesting, And I was thinking about this, Brian, with the
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: possibility of Henry Ruggs being released and wanting to play
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: football again. Is there anything I had to put you
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: on the spot. Is there anything comparable an l history
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: where someone did time, came back and played again.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Can you think of anything off the top of your head?
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, we were talking about this earlier. Was it
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: in the early two thousands or the late nineties. If
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: you remember, there's a player I think his name was
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: Leonard Little I played with the Saint Louis ram and
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: I think he was the same kind of situation. He
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: was in a dy crashing, drinking and driving. Somebody died
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: in that crash. I want to say he did come
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: back and play after that, but but certainly, I mean,
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: this would be if not unprecedented, and it's certainly very rare.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: But you know, just looking at I mean, we're in
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: the room with Henry tonight in Las Vegas and basically
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: in this conference room, and boy, he looks good, he
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: looks healthy, he looks basically ripped. I mean, you got
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: to remember, this guy is only twenty six years old.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: So look, if a team wanted to give him a chance,
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know, there's a lot of baggage there,
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: but he certainly had a lot of talents. I mean,
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: in twenty twenty one, I think he played seven or
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: eight games before that crash happened, and he had something
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: like around five hundred receiving yards a couple touchdowns. I mean,
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: he was kind of starting to come on. He was
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: a legitimate deep threat. So I don't know, I guess
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: we've probably seen stranger things happen, but it'll be interesting
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: to see what happens for sure.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: What do you think.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: And Brian Horwath is our guest here from the Vegas
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Review Journal joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, was
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: at this event on Tuesday night in Vegas. Henry Ruggs,
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: former Raiders wide receiver, speaking at a Hope for Prisoners
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: event and apologized to the family of the woman that
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: he killed in a car crash.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: What do you.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Think the percentage chance might be if you had to
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: take a guess of an NFL team who is looking
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: at this situation, knowing what happened, knowing the pr ramifications,
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: should they give Henry Ruggs a chance? What do you
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: think that like the realistic possibility is that he plays
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: in the NFL again.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: I just don't know, you know, honestly, Brian. I mean,
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: it's hard for me to believe that a team would
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: want to take on that baggage. But then you look
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: at you know, this is a young guy. He was
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: kind of starting to come into his own. He's one
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: of those one of those receivers. He's a deep threat.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: I means he at least was. We don't know what
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: he is now, but he was a very fast receiver
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: who's able to kind of take the top off of
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: the defense. You know, that's a coveted thing in the NFL,
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: as you know, so who knows. It does seem like
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of baggage. You know, he was out drinking.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: He ends up driving his Corvette with his then girlfriend,
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: I think it's his fiance, you know, almost one hundred
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: and fifty miles an hour on a red cidential street
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: here in Las Vegas and ends up killing a woman.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: That's that's a lot of baggage. But you know, on
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: the other hand, I mean, this is America, and you know,
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: if you serve your time, I mean, Michael Vick served
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: this time, was able to come back. I realize that's
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: a different situation. That's apples and argues, but you know,
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: who knows who knows. But it was certainly interesting to see.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: I think the exact quote from Henry today was, hey,
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: look when I get out, you know whatever that is,
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: he hopes it's next year, next August. He said, look,
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: I'll be ready, so it'll definitely be very interesting.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would imagine that's that's a tough thing to balance,
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: right where you want to have dreams and goals and
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: look forward to your future. I mean, that is understandable
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: but at the same time, when on one hand, you're
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: still apologizing.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: For this horrible, horrible.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: Mistake that you made, and then in your next breath
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: you're talking about your future, that's a really tough thing
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: to balance.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, and certainly. I mean, you know, when
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: Henry was talking tonight, he was basically in a room
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: full of the ex offenders who are kind of trying
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: to come back and be productive members of society. He
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: was also live stream, so there's some some folks in
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: prisons across Nevada who were also watching, and you know,
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: it was kind of interesting. A couple of those folks said, look, Henry,
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: you know, you're an inspiration to us, and you know,
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: and he was. He was kind of inspiring to listen to.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: You know, he said he's learned a lot. He was young,
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: he wasn't happy, he was away from home. I mean,
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: he said, he kind of escaped into that world of
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: essentially of drinking. Obviously made a horrible mistake, but again,
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  Speaker 5: you know, we're talking about a guy who's twenty six.
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: And he said, and look, I want to come back
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  Speaker 5: and make something out of myself again. So there was
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: a lot of emotion in that room. Today.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can imagine. So you know what's crazy is
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  Speaker 4: I feel so stupid right now, Brian, because yeah, of
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: course I went back and looked at Henry Ruggs and
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: his numbers, right, just looked at his stats, and his
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: rookie season, he had what twenty six catches for about
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: four hundred and fifty yards, and then his second season,
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: in seven games, did twenty four catches for a little
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: bit better, about four hundred and fifty yards. And I'm
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: looking at twenty twenty one and I'm like, huh, maybe
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: he got hurt, maybe a hamstring or something. I totally
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: it's like, duh, that's when the crash happened, Like you
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: just said, a little while ago, that was during the
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: twenty one season, and the next thing, you know, the
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Raiders released him and then he's, you know, on his
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: way to being sentenced.
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  Speaker 3: It took a little while.
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  Speaker 4: He pleaded guilty in May of twenty three and was
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: sentenced in August of twenty three, and it was a
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: three to ten year prison sentence, and like you said,
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  Speaker 4: he's eligible for parole next August, right, wow.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know, there were certainly some folks who
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: raised an eyebrow at you know, hey, this this person,
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: potentially he's responsible for taking someone else's life and he
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: gets potentially only three years that you know, a lot
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: of things go into that. He you know, he didn't
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: have prior offenses or anything like that. You know, he
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: was also able to afford David Chesnoff, who's you know,
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: a high price lawyer here in Las Vegas, and that
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: certainly didn't hurt his cause either. But but hey, look,
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  Speaker 5: I mean tonight, if for just just for the event,
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: and I know that there's a family that's that's hurting
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: and they're gonna be hurting forever, that's never going to
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  Speaker 5: go away. You know, he said all the right things tonight,
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  Speaker 5: So I don't know, we'll see, we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 4: Has there been any word from the victims family, Have
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: they said anything about how they feel right now about
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: the whole situation, or are they're just you know, kind
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: of living life on their own without making any statements
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  Speaker 4: like that.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's funny. I was actually texting back and forth
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: with the victim's uncle, who has spoke out in the
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: past last few years a little bit, and you know,
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: he had no idea that Henry wouldn't be speaking at
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: this event. We didn't know this was going on. Henry
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: himself said that he was just asked to do this
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: on Saturday, so he just basically just decided that the
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: time was right. He wanted to talk a little bit
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: about his experience. So and Tina Tintor's uncle just said,
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: he told me in a text message, look, there's there's
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: so much that goes into He was actually at work
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: tonight and he said, look, I don't want to, you know,
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: make one or two comments tonight. Let's let's talk later.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: Obviously a lot there was a lot of emotion that
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: went into that whole thing, A lot of emotion for
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: that family. So you know that's something obviously that's that's
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: not going to go away. Ever.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. I totally hear you on that.
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  Speaker 4: It's it becomes so complicated so fast, you know, because
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: I think about it. I have two nephews who I
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: absolutely adore, and they're around the same age when Tina
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: was killed, right, And so if I put myself in
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: that position, like you're texting back and forth with the uncle,
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: me as an uncle, if one of my nephews died
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: the same way, I would.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Have a huge problem with that.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's not like I want
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: to make I don't want to text you something and
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: that could impact that person's life going forward. It becomes
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: really complicated really fast.
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean I don't blame them for that,
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: you know, I can say that certainly the family did,
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: you know, wonder if maybe that was a little bit
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: light of a sentence. And I think anyone could probably
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: understand if you're in their shoes as well. So it's
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: a difficult situation. You know, there were never any winners
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: in this. You know, Henry his family had to go
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: through all this, and of course Tina Tintor's family, So
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: it was just really a really tragic, tragic situation.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, well, hey, Brian, I appreciate you taking a couple
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: of minutes. Man, Thanks for your time here in the
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: early morning, and I hope you have a good day.
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  Speaker 3: We'll catch you down the road.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely there.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: He is Brian Horwath from the Vegas Reviewed Journal. He
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: was at that event former Raiders wide receiver Henry Ruggs.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: He was on special release from prison. On Tuesday night,
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: he spoke at a Hope for prisoners event in Las Vegas,
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: and he apologized to the family of a woman he
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  Speaker 4: killed in a car crash that was nearly four years ago.