Latest / Elon Musk Podcast / iPhone Fold - Apple's Two Thousand Dollar Foldable Strategy
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- 0:00A 5% stock plunge just wiped out millions in Apple's market value
- 0:05over rumors that they're highly anticipated $2000 foldable phone
- 0:10is facing severe engineering delays, and then literally hours
- 0:14later the stock recovers when counter rumors claim production
- 0:17is perfectly fine. Yeah, that intense market panic
- 0:20is happening because, well, this single device is really the
- 0:23centerpiece of Apple's overarching 3 phase strategy.
- 0:26They are trying to completely overhaul the iPhones design
- 0:29across 3 distinct generations, right?
- 0:32And we have a stack of supply chain reports, hardware
- 0:35schematics, and beta software code sitting right here.
- 0:38So our mission today is to figure out if this ultra
- 0:41expensive hardware represents A guaranteed market revolution or
- 0:44you know, an expensive engineering trap.
- 0:46We are looking at the engineering that makes this
- 0:48hardware possible, the pricing strategy designed to support it,
- 0:51and the intense competitor pressure driving this entire
- 0:53shift. So the question we really need
- 0:55to answer first is why risk so much capital and market
- 0:58stability on a delicate, ultra expensive form factor that
- 1:01competitors have already been selling for years?
- 1:03Well, the foundation for answering that actually starts
- 1:06with a commercial failure, which is pretty fascinating.
- 1:10Failure. Yeah, the underperformance of
- 1:13the ultra thin iPhone AIR model was really a necessary stepping
- 1:17stone for the foldable device. If you look at the adoption, it
- 1:20captured a mere 6% of domestic buyers.
- 1:23Oh, wow. Right.
- 1:25And it moved only 200,000 units in China.
- 1:28You have to compare that to the 17,000,000 standard units they
- 1:31usually move. Wait, hold on back up.
- 1:34They released a flagship that almost nobody wanted to buy.
- 1:36Yes, and the reason lies in the physical constraints of that
- 1:40design. Like when you compress a device
- 1:42down to 5.64mm, you simply cannot fit a high capacity power
- 1:47cell inside. Because battery tech just needs
- 1:49physical space, right? Exactly.
- 1:51Current battery technology relies on physical volume.
- 1:54If you want more power, you need a physically larger battery.
- 1:57The ultra thin model had a battery that was entirely too
- 1:59small for heavy use. Yeah, that makes sense.
- 2:01On top of that, the physical depth restrictions meant it
- 2:04could only house a single rear camera.
- 2:07Modern smartphones use multiple lenses because they need
- 2:10physical depth to focus light. You literally cannot cheat
- 2:14optical physics. Right.
- 2:15I mean, if you were a consumer putting down flagship money, you
- 2:18expect flagship performance. You want a battery that actually
- 2:21lasts all day, and you want a camera that can compete with
- 2:25professional equipment. Squeezing a phone down to 5.64mm
- 2:30means it is like thinner than a standard wooden pencil sitting
- 2:34on your desk. Yeah, it's while.
- 2:35From the outside, releasing a phone like that looks like a
- 2:37severe misstep. Consumers rejected paying a
- 2:40premium price when forced to sacrifice battery life and
- 2:43photographic capabilities. It looks like a misstep, but
- 2:45that release actually functioned as a highly profitable prototype
- 2:49phase. Oh I see.
- 2:50The extreme miniaturization techniques they used to fit a
- 2:53processor, a battery, and a screen into a 5.64mm frame were
- 2:57directly applied to make the two halves of the upcoming foldable
- 3:00device thin left to work. A paid prototype?
- 3:04Wow, that makes perfect sense. They essentially used early
- 3:07adopters to fund their research and development for the real
- 3:11target product. Precisely.
- 3:12It's almost like a Formula One team secretly testing next
- 3:16season's engine inside a mid tier car during a live race just
- 3:21to ensure the championship vehicle runs perfectly later.
- 3:24That is a great way to put it. Think about it from an
- 3:26engineering perspective. When you fold a phone in half,
- 3:30you are stacking 2 pieces of hardware, right?
- 3:33If those pieces aren't individually wafer thin, you end
- 3:36up carrying a literal brick in your pocket.
- 3:39Imagine taking your current phone, whatever you were
- 3:41listening to us on right now, and doubling the thickness.
- 3:44Yeah. Nobody wants to carry that that
- 3:45around. It would ruin your pocket.
- 3:46Exactly. The thermal management, the
- 3:48custom component placement, and the internal architecture
- 3:51required to prevent a device that thin from overheating were
- 3:54all subsidized by the buyers of the ultra thin model.
- 3:57So they needed real world data. Yes, they needed data on how
- 4:01components handle heat when packed tightly together.
- 4:04Laboratory testing simply cannot replicate the wear and tear of
- 4:081,000,000 users putting a device through its paces out in the
- 4:11real. World OK, let's slow things down
- 4:13for a second and look at the actual device we were getting.
- 4:16Yeah, so the thin model walked so the foldable could run.
- 4:19What exactly are we getting for $2000?
- 4:21We were talking about double what most people are used to
- 4:25paying for a phone. Right, so we are looking at a
- 4:27dual screen experience featuring a 5.5 inch outer screen for
- 4:31standard use, OK, and a 7.8 inch inner screen that folds open
- 4:36like a book, maxing out at one terabyte of storage.
- 4:39A 7.8 inch inner screen is basically carrying a tablet in
- 4:42your pocket. Pretty much, yeah.
- 4:43And the engineering required to make that folding mechanism
- 4:46survive daily use relies heavily on a liquid metal hinge.
- 4:51Liquid metal or amorphous metal lacks the crystalline structure
- 4:55of traditional metals. Yeah.
- 4:56So think of traditional metal like a brick wall.
- 4:58If you bend it back and forth enough times, cracks form along
- 5:02the mortar between the bricks. Sure, metal fatigue.
- 5:04Right. The atomic structure has defined
- 5:06boundaries, and those boundaries are weak points.
- 5:09Amorphous metal is more like a piece of taffy or glass.
- 5:11The atomic structure is randomized with no defined
- 5:14boundaries, so stress is distributed evenly across the
- 5:17entire material. Oh wow, so it just bends without
- 5:20snapping? Exactly.
- 5:21That allows the hinge to fold open and close thousands of
- 5:24times without degrading. Traditional hinges rely on
- 5:27interlocking mechanical parts that wear down, whereas this
- 5:31amorphous metal approach fundamentally changes how the
- 5:33moving parts handle friction. And that hinge works in tandem
- 5:37with an entirely new display panel architecture.
- 5:40From schematics, they have built the touch sensors directly into
- 5:44the display panel itself, which reduces the panel thickness by
- 5:4719%, which is a. Huge space saver, yeah.
- 5:50Usually the touch layer sits on top of the display as a separate
- 5:53physical sheet. Fusing them together is
- 5:55brilliant. And by combining that ultra thin
- 5:57panel with the precision of the liquid metal hinge, they achieve
- 6:01A crease depth of under .15mm with an angle under 2.5°.
- 6:06OK, for the user, this is huge. You finally open a foldable and
- 6:10you aren't staring at that awful crease right down the middle.
- 6:13Right, you don't feel that distracting valley running down
- 6:15the center of your screen when you are scrolling?
- 6:17But all this extreme thinness creates a problem.
- 6:22It limits the internal space so much that they are forcing the
- 6:25removal of facial recognition in favor of a side button
- 6:29fingerprint scanner. Yeah, Face ID is gone.
- 6:32We really no face ID for two grand.
- 6:34I'm sorry but that feels like a severe downgrade.
- 6:37I mean you're paying a premium and giving up the most seamless
- 6:40security feature they offer you. Just look your phone and it
- 6:42opens. Now I have to find a button.
- 6:44I thought so too at first honestly, but consider the
- 6:47physical motion involved. A side button scanner is
- 6:50actually a more natural ergonomic movement for a device
- 6:54you physically open like a book. Also.
- 6:57Well, your thumb naturally rests on the edge.
- 6:59When you pry the two halves apart by integrating the scanner
- 7:02into that edge, the biometric scan becomes a seamless part of
- 7:06the physical motion. Oh, I see what you're saying.
- 7:08Yeah, you are authenticating the device in the exact same motion
- 7:11you use to open it, rather than opening it and then waiting for
- 7:14a camera array to find your face.
- 7:16I guess that changes how you interact with the device
- 7:18physically. It removes a step from the
- 7:21process. So looking inside that thin
- 7:23frame, the internal processing power is driven by the a 20 Pro
- 7:28chip. It is built on A2 nanometer
- 7:30node, making it 15% faster and 30% more power efficient than
- 7:35previous chips, right? And they are utilizing a new
- 7:38packaging method to integrate RAM directly onto the chip
- 7:41itself. Yeah, and alongside that
- 7:43processing power, the manufacturer is finally ditching
- 7:46external modem suppliers to use their own custom C2 chip.
- 7:51This includes hardware capable of full satellite Internet
- 7:53access moving beyond just basic emergency signal.
- 7:57Wait, full Internet access. This opens up true off grid web
- 8:00browsing. Yes, it really.
- 8:02Does you could be in the middle of a National Park with 0
- 8:05cellular towers around and still pull up a web page or send a
- 8:08high resolution photo? Exactly.
- 8:11But this limits their profit margins heavily because these
- 8:14smaller, denser custom chips cost 70% more to produce. 70%
- 8:20that is a massive jump in cost. Hold on, I need some
- 8:23clarification here on the hardware.
- 8:25Integrating the RAM directly onto the chip sounds great on a
- 8:28spec sheet, but what does that actually mean for me when I'm
- 8:31holding the phone? Am I just noticing faster app
- 8:34loading? It reduces the physical distance
- 8:36data has to travel. In a traditional architecture,
- 8:39the processor and the memory sit on different parts of the
- 8:42motherboard. Every time the processor needs
- 8:44data, electrical signals have to literally travel across that
- 8:47board. By bringing the memory directly
- 8:50onto the processor package, you eliminate that travel time.
- 8:53So the data is already right there.
- 8:54Right. Think of it like moving your
- 8:56office from across town to right inside your house.
- 8:59The commute is gone. This eliminates lag when running
- 9:02heavy artificial intelligence tasks directly on the device
- 9:06because the data doesn't have to commute.
- 9:08It speeds everything up and saves battery power because
- 9:11pushing a signal across a shorter physical distance
- 9:13requires less electricity. That is fascinating.
- 9:16If you shrink the physical distance the electricity has to
- 9:19travel, you inherently save power.
- 9:22And I imagine you need every drop of power you can get if you
- 9:25are pushing a 7.8 inch inner screen and connecting to
- 9:29satellites in low earth orbit. Absolutely.
- 9:31Let's step away from the circuit boards for a second and look at
- 9:34the market. All this custom silicone creates
- 9:37a severe bottleneck with supply, right?
- 9:39So there is a highly unusual split release strategy happening
- 9:43right now. The high end pro models and the
- 9:45foldable are launching first, while the base models are
- 9:48delayed to a completely different season due to global
- 9:50memory component shortages. Wow.
- 9:53This strategy contrasts sharply with Samsung's chaotic hardware
- 9:56experiments. That major rival just launched a
- 9:59near $3000 phone with two hinges and a 10 inch screen.
- 10:04Yeah, the two hinge. Model.
- 10:05It sold out instantly before being immediately discontinued
- 10:08as a mere technological showcase.
- 10:10Who needs 2 hinges? Well.
- 10:12By splitting the launch, the manufacturer avoids
- 10:14cannibalizing its own sales and ensures enough premium parts for
- 10:18high paying buyers. While rivals exhaust their
- 10:21resources testing bizarre shapes on the public, Apple can secure
- 10:25the limited supply of memory chips for the devices that yield
- 10:28the highest profit. It's like competitors are
- 10:30throwing a dozen expensive experimental darts at the board
- 10:34hoping one hits. Apple is taking three years to
- 10:38aim a single incredibly expensive sniper shot.
- 10:41That is exactly what they're doing.
- 10:44They're letting their rivals deal with the messy public
- 10:46perception of releasing hardware that folds into weird shapes or
- 10:49breaks easily while they hoard the high end memory chips for a
- 10:53singular targeted release. And that single highly refined
- 10:57sniper shot leads to the final phase of the strategy targeting
- 11:00the upcoming Anniversary Edition.
- 11:02The goal for this device is A4 sided curved glass screen that
- 11:06eliminates the metal frame entirely.
- 11:08To achieve this uninterrupted surface, it utilizes solid-state
- 11:12haptic buttons that vibrate to simulate a click instead of
- 11:15actually moving. There are.
- 11:16Distinct software clues pointing directly to this hardware change
- 11:19too. Beta operating systems already
- 11:22feature Liquid Glass interface rules, forcing developers to
- 11:25push their apps into the extreme edges of a wrap around screen.
- 11:29Yeah, the. OS is training them the
- 11:31operating. System is training developers to
- 11:32build for a screen that literally spills over the sides
- 11:36of the device and by. Removing mechanical buttons that
- 11:39physically depress you eliminate mechanical failure points.
- 11:43Dust and debris cannot get trapped underneath a button that
- 11:45doesn't move right. Plus it drastically increases
- 11:48water resistance by removing physical cutouts from the
- 11:51chassis entirely. But.
- 11:53We need a reality check regarding the design here.
- 11:56While the solid-state buttons are fully verified for
- 11:59production, placing the front facing camera completely under
- 12:02the display is proving way too difficult and will likely be
- 12:05delayed for several more hardware generations.
- 12:07Yeah. That parts is struggling the
- 12:09physics. Of capturing a clean photo
- 12:11through a layer of active light emitting pixels is incredibly
- 12:15tough. The display pixels scatter the
- 12:17incoming light, which ruins the image quality of the camera
- 12:20underneath. It's like.
- 12:21Trying to take a crystal clear photo through a screen door.
- 12:24Exactly. Until they can invent a display
- 12:26matrix that becomes completely transparent on command, the
- 12:29dream of an entirely uninterrupted sheet of class
- 12:32from installed. So to summarize the key take
- 12:36away from all this source material, the company is trading
- 12:39its safe, predictable updates for high risk hardware leaps
- 12:43using early commercial failures to subsidize the extreme
- 12:46engineering required for a flawless folding experience.
- 12:49And if we? Are moving toward an era where
- 12:51the physical hardware eventually disappears into a single
- 12:55uninterrupted sheet of glass. How will software interface
- 12:59design have to evolve to fill that infinite space if you're
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