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14 Biggest Offseason Signings (Part 1) · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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Great guys here. Episode let me put it this way.
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What have you done, Kevin, if Nick Suzuki and OK, just gonna
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Excited to talk about the the signings we got.
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Exactly. Yeah, it is going to be the 14
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random number. I know 14 biggest offseason
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signings and their fantasy impact.
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Um, yeah. So essentially there's not many
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new ones. It was quite a boring free
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agency as Josh spoke about last week in our top trades of the
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off season, but still worth mentioning.
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And some of the teams are a little bit different now and
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follow the money, as Josh always says.
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So if those are big contracts, we could expect big things out
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of them this year. When you say as Josh always
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says, I think he said that for like the last two episodes only.
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My whole for saying that, yeah. Yeah exactly.
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take us away. All right, so we're gonna dive
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right into the signings. Like you said, it's the 14th
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biggest ones of the offseason. That is because I only found 14
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that were fantasy relevant. Of those 14, only four of them
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were to new teams and ten were resigning.
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So we're gonna start with the new team ones.
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So First off, we've got the Anaheim Ducks signed Michael
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Granlund to a 3 * 7 mil contract.
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I love this. I love this for them.
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I feel like Anaheim has forever been.
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By forever, I mean the same length of time as Josh has been
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saying Follow the Money has been a team that's very young with a
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lot of young talent that kind of lacks that veteran presence.
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I mean, last year they had Killorn, who I feel like it was
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one of those players. But now they're surrounding
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their other stars with Grantland and I guess we'll talk about
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assigning after. Yeah, Kryder.
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So I think I think it's great for them.
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I think it really balances the lineup.
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And I think Grantland is very underrated.
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I feel like when you went to Pittsburgh recently, he kind of
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lost some value in the eyes of other NHL teams, but then he
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bounced back and I think he's going to be a valuable asset to
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this Anaheim stock team. Totally agreed, very underrated
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player, always has been. He was a fan favorite in
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Minnesota. People tend to forget about that
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cuz it's been awhile but he was like their star.
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He's not a superstar by any means but he's a top tier of the
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middle of the pack players I would say.
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And honestly I think this is exactly what they need.
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They're pretty decent at centre depth if they decide to keep
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Mctavish, which is a question mark right now.
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Excited to follow that during the offseason.
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Yeah, exactly. Though the veteran presence is
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massive, as you mentioned, and he can slot on that wing.
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Perhaps Crowder, Mctavish, Grantland, that'd be amazing and
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probably power play one as well. I think he's one of those guys
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that you could get pretty good value on in this year's draft.
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I actually I'm not. Sure about that.
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Disagrees. Yeah, I was gonna say, first of
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all, I mean, first of all, in agreement about real life, this
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move, I think it's a great move for the team that very happy
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with. But in terms of Grantland's
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actual fantasy value, last year was kind of a surprise to me at
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least how well he did in terms of fantasy.
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He was really solid on the Sharks.
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He got to be power play one there.
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He moved to Dallas, and even though he got slotted to play
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two, he still produced enough to be worth rostering.
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But now with this move to Anaheim, I think there's a shot
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that first of all, he's going to be line to or line 3 and he
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might not even get to play centre because they're so deep
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at centre. Assuming like you said, they
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Mctavish, they're going to have Carlson, Mctavish, Strom as
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their 123. So Grand is probably going to be
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a winger on line two or three who will chip in sometimes for
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face offs. And then in terms of power play,
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like he might not crack either power play unit.
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I definitely don't think he's power play one, but I don't know
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if he's gonna crack either power play unit.
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And they did split it a bit last year, but I think I could see
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them moving more towards a top unit.
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So I'm kind of worrying about whether he has any fantasy
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value, honestly. I disagree a little bit.
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I mean obviously we have to take everything with a grain of salt
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but I feel they're paying him honestly. 7,000,000 for 1/3
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liner is is way too much money. So I feel like he's going to be
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playing on that second line. But I feel like Anaheim,
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honestly, I don't even know which line is their first line.
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It's one of those situations where I think they have 3 lines
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that all have a value that could all pop off at any moment and I
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would consider any of them to be like the first line I see him
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playing on the wing besides either Mctavish or Leo Carlson.
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I think that's where he ends up because I think like Carlson
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right now playing with Cutter Gautier and and I feel like
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grandma would be a perfect compliment for that, especially
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because you can take resources. Yeah.
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We're Troy Terry if you wanna judge job Troy Terry, again, in
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the fantasy, that's all he wants to put up a little bit.
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But we're also seeing rumors that Mason Mctavish may be
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available for trade. So maybe this was just kind of
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like an insurance policy for if Mctavish gets moved.
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But I also think they're power play units are gonna be split as
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well. We saw last year 2 Anaheim had
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kind of like 2 units that were somewhat effective.
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Like we saw Mason Mctavish be on the second unit even though he's
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like one of the best players, you know what I mean?
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So I feel like grandma could easily like be on a unit that
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ends up being productive as well.
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So I feel they're paying a lot of money.
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He's a veteran that's actually really good at hockey.
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He provides, you know, I would say responsibility on the ice.
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So I feel like they want him in situations to succeed, like kind
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of like guiding the younger players that are maybe less
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responsible. So I feel like he ends up
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playing himself into a good position, even though maybe
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right now his deployment doesn't look the best on paper, you
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know, months out of the season. Yeah, I mean what you're saying
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makes sense. Obviously the whole Mctavish
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thing is massive. If Mactavish gets traded, I
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change my mind. Grantland's very solid, you
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know. But assuming we Tavish doesn't
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get traded, I still don't really see his value fantasy wise.
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Again, not real life I don't think any way he cracks power
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play 1. They did split it, so that's not
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that big a deal. But I think they're probably 1
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unit might prove to be good enough that they steal more of
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the power. Please share if that makes
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sense. Like I'm looking at their
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projected lines for next year and power play one could be
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Carlson, Terry, Mctavish, Kreider and Lacombe.
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So I don't see him bumping any of those five guys off power
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play one personally. I do think though that it's one
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of those power play 1A and B type thing with them.
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It was last. The other teams exactly and
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look, maybe they will consolidate because with young
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guys, you never know how their value is gonna change.
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However, with the my issue would be similar to I guess what
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you're saying is the mouse to feed on the ducks in general.
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Like these are three sick lines. This is a top three amazing like
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elite forward lines. I mean their goaltenders in
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question mark and also their defensemen.
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I guess it's not a sure thing by any means.
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Nevertheless, I do think he's gonna have a prominent role, but
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I understand the apprehension because there's so many
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offensive star power on this team.
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I guess. Do you think it boosts anyone
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else's value a lot by? Having just to clarify, when you
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guys say you guys are arguing that he'll have some fantasy
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value, but even you guys don't think he's like a high pick or.
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Anything. No.
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No. You're talking like you because
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exactly I think that he's going to be overlooked a little bit.
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So if you could grab him in, what, the 10th, 11th round like
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that? Could I still think that's
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early? I think he's the type of player
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like that's gonna go into double digit rounds and he'll be a
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better pick for your fantasy team than he like where his ADP
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is. I think to where his ADP is
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going to be, he's going to return on value.
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Like he's the type of guy that you know, where we draft like we
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playing a really deep league that you know, has face off wins
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and that has like 20 roster spots.
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We draft guys like, you know, JG Pajot and their valuable for our
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for our Ross. I feel like Brandon could be one
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of those guys that, you know, you drive for late, he has
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points upside and it's surrounded by players that are
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gonna get a lot of points. So she could be valuable and
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plus maybe he might have a winger eligibility and also get
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face off. So that's, you know, impactful
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for your fantasy team as well. Yeah, I would say that I don't
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think he's gonna get much faceoffs if Mactavish stays
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because Carlson, Mctavish, Strom should get most of the faceoffs,
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although he'll like jump in anytime they get pulled out of
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the faceoff dot. But I get what you're saying.
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I mean as a late round pick I'm personally not taking him, but
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you guys could be higher on him than me and still that could be
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right for sure. Our next one.
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All right, moving on to the next one.
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This was probably the the biggest one I think of the
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offseason and we'll see as we go through them, but I think this
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was the biggest one so far in terms of signings.
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Carolina Hurricanes signed Nikolai Elers to a 6 * 8.5 mil
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contract. What won't wall his fantasy
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value? This is cool, Yeah, yeah, it's
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cool IRL. And I do hope that finally he'll
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be that guy that kind of just tells Rod, hey, listen, let us
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let us have some fun on the ice because all your fantasy
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managers are pissed. But no, it's probably
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meaningless, right, because he's going to the Hurricanes.
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I also feel like they're pretty stacked at winger.
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I don't know why they really even did this, but we'll see.
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I mean, he's not bad at bringing out middle tier players values
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right? He would like Stan Coven was
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really good with them whereas ranting and sucked.
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So Taylor Hall too right? He just clearly passed his prime
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but Rod Rod got him to be good. It's not like yours is some sort
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of star going to Carolina where it's hopeless.
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That being said, I don't necessarily love this landing
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spot for reasons that we talk about all the time.
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The Hurricanes are just not a good team for players to go
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play. I'm I think this move makes
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sense on paper because we want to see what Carolina wants to do
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with their two seat situation because we know Sebastian Aho's
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there. But signing another winger I
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think replaces Seth Jarvis's spot on the wing because we know
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Jarvis is playing with auto for most of the seasons recently.
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But if Travis is going to be that two seat that they want
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because cooking yummy is clearly not the answer and Jordan Stall
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is like 45 years old set drivers is driving in second line, then
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that opens up a spot on the wing and they have special obviously,
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But then after that it's you know, it was Taylor Hall,
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Jackson Blake Logan Stankovic like these these are these are
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solid guys, but nobody like nobody's name pops as a top
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talent that can really produce. And I think dealers on Winnipeg
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has been criminally underrated player like that.
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He just hasn't been utilized to his full potential on Winnipeg
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because you know, they have a lot of mouths to feed in the
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system and I think they kind of hated him Loki.
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But I think on Carolina, maybe he'll be able to thrive and we
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know Carolina obviously capture upside in terms of fantasy
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value, but I feel like you will still get like some good
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production out of dealers. Yeah, I kind of my opinion is
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similar to that where it kind of goes both ways for healers.
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I think it actually boosts his value because as Kevin
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mentioned, he just the coach hated him and it was 2 coaches
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like Maurice left and then he got replaced and then either
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still was hated, he couldn't crack line once or play 1 to
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save his life. At this at this point, like the
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line one makes sense. They have a good line 1, you
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know, but he should have 100% on power play one for a while and
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he just couldn't crack it, you know, So that captain was here.
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He was. Now he's going to.
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He did well and it was kind of just like ohhhhh.
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Yeah, yeah, I know. Imagine what happens when you
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put your best player would have thought first line.
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Yeah, no, exactly. So he was like capped for the
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longest, for most of his career not being line one, power play
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one on Winnipeg. Now he goes to Carolina, he's
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gonna get a shot at line on power play one.
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You don't sign a player to that contract and not give them that
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shot at the very least. But as we've talked about a
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billion times on this podcast, Rod is a fantasy hockey
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terrorist, you know, and so he's now being capped by a different,
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he's now being capped by a different aspect.
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I do think that the increase in deployment is gonna mitigate the
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Rod factor. And I think he's gonna have a
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solid season. I don't think, don't get your
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expectations crazy high, but I do think he's gonna have a
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better season than if he was on The Jets.
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That's interesting, especially coming from you who's like
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resident Rod Hader. Wow, that's that's, but that's
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something there. Another, but if the PowerPoint 1
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doesn't click at the start of the year, he could be demoted
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from it. Could never.
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See it again made a big boost was think of and that was their
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quote UN quote rental and replacement.
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I mean, he's gonna be he's gonna wanna shot at success as well,
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right. So I feel like if any of these
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guys on P1, whether it's, you know, switch or or Ellers, like
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either of them might feel like are gonna be able to get bumped
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off for like a Stankovic or a Taylor Hall if he's informed,
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let's say, which is going to be unlikely.
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I don't know. I just don't think that Ellers
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was going to get power play one in.
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Winnipeg this window I think. What will this?
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We can discuss this in a second. But the constant think how this
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affects Winnipeg and their fantasy assets.
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Yeah. So I would say in terms of
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Winnipeg, the biggest guy who is getting a huge boon out of this
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is Cole Perfetti. I think this clears up that
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fifth power play one spot for him like guaranteed the only
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competition he had was Eilers with dealers being shipped out.
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OK, obviously we know the four of Connor, Scheifele, Velardi
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and Morrissey were a lock on Power Play 1, and then it was
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who was going to get that fifth spot.
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And then dealers had it towards the end of last year.
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Perfetti got it at times in the playoffs and he was super
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clutch. And by trading away dealers, I
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think they're signalling that Perfetti's gonna be on that
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power Play 1 unit. And I think he's going to be a
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huge. Breakout perfect for them has
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like multiple seasons now complained about his ice time in
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his role on the squad and and you know, he just wants to have
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more playing time and and more of an impact.
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And they just said they don't really have the room for him
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right now and he has to be patient.
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So I feel like, you know, them not resigning Euler's is kind of
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a a sign being like, listen, kid are going to get your shot and
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make the most of it now. So I also am expecting big
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things from Perfetti this year. I feel like he's set up to
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succeed and we'll have to see if he's actually that guy or not.
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Can I, can I ask her? Would you rather?
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I'll allow it. All is that allowed?
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Yeah, would you rather Perfetti or Grandland on your fantasy?
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Team. Perfetti easy.
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OK, OK, I'll, I'll leave these up to you.
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That was too easy. That's right.
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I mean, I'm very low on Granny. I really thought that was
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confused. OK I'll I'll I know my place.
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Do you have any fun with your? Others from this thing not to
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put you on would you rather? Defer.
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To the master. OK, let me think.
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Let let me think Perfetti or Logan's Stankovic, is that a
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question? Probably not.
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Yeah, yeah, for sure. OK.
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I mean, I'm very high on perfectly.
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I think he's gonna be a very big breakout.
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Perfectly, you're. Probably lock on like.
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Perfect. We've seen Zika have that
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deployment and not do much with it.
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Hmm, Perfetti or last one, Perfetti or Kevin Fiala?
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That's good. Yeah, I would probably rather
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Fiala too, but. That's just to own.
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Yellow, you know, if he doesn't get the second-half or whatever,
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but if you look pretty, has maybe the similar upside to
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Fiala. I don't know.
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I like Profeti a lot. I wouldn't be surprised.
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I'm OK. I'd be a bit surprised.
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He has a better season than Fiala.
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But like I don't think it's a crazy would you rather?
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But for me it's still Fiala over.
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Him and Perfetti reelers. Perfetti.
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Wow. Yeah.
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OK, that one. Was right in front of.
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Our faces actually upper Petty or like Ricard Raquel.
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I think pretty gets more points. Rachel's good for back.
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Cats but I feel like, well, you know, play with Crosby line 1P1
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and he has no doubt of moving that spot.
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I mean, I think he gets traded. OK.
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Brian Ross then he's the other guy does in the same spot.
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Rust Rusty should be good friend.
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Glass. Honestly, yeah.
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OK, let's move on to the next. Alright, next one.
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This might be a career revival for him or just a nothing but a
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San Jose Sharks signed John Klingberg to a one times.
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4,000,002.0 Yeah, I know. I mean, this is an interesting
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one. It seems like you look at it on
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paper and you're like, alright, who cares?
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This is nothing. Klinger couldn't even crack the
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Edmonton roster. He was their 70.
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But on San Jose, they have a really stacked forward court,
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like young forward court coming up.
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That's exciting. Their defence is nonexistent.
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So his only competition for power play on quarterback is
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Timothy Lilligren, which it could go to either one of them,
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but I think that P1 quarterback spot is actually pretty
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valuable. I agree they don't have.
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I think they signed him because they need that power play
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quarterback. It can be like the Shane Gosses
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spear of the San Jose Sharks and just be like the power play
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merchant and that's it. Because I, I don't see, I don't
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see him getting, you know, 30 minutes a night on San Jose.
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But he he's like what, 50 years old now?
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But but he has that kind of reputation for when he's
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healthy, being like a, a power play specialist.
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And I feel like on San Jose, he's that's a good situation.
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It kind of reminds me of, you know, when Cam Fowler went to
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the Blues or something, you know what I mean?
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Like it was kind of like dead for fantasy and then kind of
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revives his career a little bit. Yeah, I agree.
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And I mean, this is a like the four guys tell you would be
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joining are celebrity Smith, Eckland and Toffoli.
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That's going to be a good power play this year.
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The Sharks are the Sharks doesn't talent with William
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Eklan The Who is better than Who did I get from your roster,
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Josh? Next question.
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Yeah, this is probably the best landing spot for him because
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he's gonna be given that opportunity for sure.
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Also veteran playing with younger guys that could
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definitely benefit him. I don't really know though how
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this is really gonna play out because is he gonna be under
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drafted because he's just had such a bad past few years with
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injuries and everything. He's getting drafted or people.
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Yeah, that's what I mean. Like you think he's gonna be a
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value? And yeah, I think he'll be he'll
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he'll be drafted in the same range where like, you know, last
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year drafted Justin Faulk, who was like a late round like power
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play quarterback where there wasn't really many options at
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that point. Like he, he'll go around 151413
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around there where you know, you're kind of taking dart
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throws already. And for leagues that are a
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little more shallow, I feel like he'll be a good streaming
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opportunity when, you know, Sharks have a four-game week or,
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or whatnot. Yeah, I really like.
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Hiding spot. Yeah, yeah, I really liked
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Kevin's comparison to Gosta Spirits.
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I think that's exactly what we're gonna get.
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His gospel in a lot of like deep leagues, like even last year got
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drafted like super late and he has weeks where he'll put up
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straight zeros because he has zero.
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Peripherals and he'll be on. He's also for those in power.
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Yeah, exactly. And then I'll drop him and I'll
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put up a couple of four point games in a row, you know.
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But I see, I see Klingberg as the exact same situation.
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He's gonna be power play specialist.
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He's gonna put up some points some weeks, be very
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inconsistent. But if you're picking him around
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like 20 or something, you know that's around 20 power play, one
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quarterback is. Pretty one of those late round
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targets. Yeah, absolutely.
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It's just we do have to keep in mind with the injuries, right?
20:04
He's played 25 games in the past two years.
20:06
That's. Really, it's so low risk,
20:08
wouldn't even. Work.
20:09
I would fade. Like if he gets injured about
20:13
you drafted him so late. Definitely.
20:15
But I, I would still probably like, I definitely not reach on
20:18
him because of the new opportunity.
20:19
It's just like, it could be exciting, but don't try to get
20:22
ahead of the curve. Like let him fall to where his
20:24
ADP is and then pick him because high risk like sorry, it's like
20:29
a high reward and very little risk at that point.
20:31
And that's the best I would expect out of him.
20:33
Yeah, agreed. Do we expect like is there any
20:36
chance that, you know, 23 year old Jack Thompson can do
20:39
anything to push his luck on that first unit or is it really
20:43
just like not the time for him? I don't think they're married to
20:46
Klingberg at all at this point. Like, if the Sharks see that
20:48
Thompson's better, they're probably not going to be a
20:50
playoff team this year. They'd rather develop their
20:52
young. Talent, they just signed them
20:53
for one year, so it's like they're committed to them for
20:55
the future. Like it's literally just this
20:57
year and then we'll see how it goes and it's a two way contract
20:59
as well. So like they can send them down.
21:02
Yeah, Thompson. But the the fact that looking at
21:06
as I was like to say, follow the money.
21:07
You do like to say. Looking at the contract, looking
21:10
at the contract that they signed, Klingberg 201 * 4 mil is
21:13
a clearly like either they're like this is approve it or this
21:16
is like do well and we're going to trade at the deadline.
21:19
Exactly. So they're going to give him the
21:21
shot at power play one. It just doesn't make sense with
21:23
that contract to not give him a shot to start the start the
21:25
season. If he does terribly, if he gets
21:27
injured, whatever, then someone else could take it.
21:29
But I think he's gonna be the start of the season guy.
21:31
Yeah, I agree. I think we could move on to the
21:35
next. Yep.
21:36
Alright, next we've got Saint Louis Blues signed Pius Suter to
21:41
a 2 * 4.1. Mini love, peace.
21:46
OK, cool. Yeah.
21:48
Cool. Cool.
21:49
Thanks. That's all folks.
21:54
This is, I feel like one of the more this is this the last new
21:57
signing that that changes teams. Yeah, we're going to.
22:00
Discuss. I feel like he was really good
22:02
at the end of the season and replacement for Elias Patterson.
22:05
So we kind of seen what he can do in terms of like, you know,
22:08
being the next body up. I don't know.
22:11
I mean, he's not going to get drafted in fantasy this year, I
22:13
don't think. And but I think I'll keep my eye
22:15
on him for waivers and maybe he's his role grows or he has an
22:19
opportunity to step in, then I'll definitely have him on my
22:22
watch list. But I feel like he's been
22:24
reliable when given the opportunity.
22:25
So I just don't know if he's gonna start with that
22:27
opportunity on the Saint Louis. Will they be buried to line 3
22:32
right away? So that's, that's the
22:33
interesting thing. I first of all, I think in terms
22:35
of power play, this is great for him cause Saint Louis splits
22:38
their power play and I'd be very surprised if he doesn't make it
22:40
on to power play too. So I think he's gonna take the
22:42
spot that Bolduc had one, but he got traded.
22:45
So being on power play 2 is the same as being on power play one
22:48
when they split it. So that's going to be a good
22:49
opportunity for him. In terms of even strength
22:51
though, it's like you said, obviously line 1 centre is
22:54
Thomas, no question. And then the question is, does
22:56
Shen keep line to centre or because he's getting a bit
23:00
older, do they move him down to three to put in under there?
23:02
That's kind of the interesting thing because obviously if he's
23:04
line 3 centre, there's no real value there.
23:06
But line 2, they have a pretty solid top 6 Saint Louis.
23:08
So so if he was like line 2 power play, 2 on a split power
23:12
play, that's not a bad. Thing I think it's honestly, I
23:14
think his his value is going to depend on the success of Jimmy
23:19
Snuggerud because right now he's been like, you know, Snodgrass,
23:22
the prospect that they have is 21 years old and he's giving
23:25
being given the opportunity to have a a role and succeed like
23:29
his line one power play one. I just don't know if I believe
23:31
in it to be long term and I feel like easily like, you know,
23:35
Cairo or or Holloway or neighbors could end up getting
23:38
that spot. And I just feel the 2C is it's
23:40
always nice to have a 2C on a team, but I feel like his
23:42
wingers may not always be the most talented.
23:44
So I just don't see him having success of his wingers.
23:49
And if he's not going to get the P1, he's just always going to be
23:51
on the on the back burner in my mind in terms of like, you know,
23:55
I see he has value, but it's probably going to be later in my
23:57
drafts. Yeah, I think it's like you said
24:00
at the beginning, I highly doubt he gets drafted anywhere.
24:03
But he's a good watch list guy. If like, you know, Shen goes
24:06
down to injury or something like that or whatever, you know, you
24:10
pick him up because he's shown the potential with one given the
24:12
ice time to like do something with it.
24:14
But he is a bit buried right now.
24:16
Yeah, if he does crack line 2 and if it ends up being Holloway
24:19
in Cairo, that's pretty solid. Linemates.
24:22
That could be one, honestly. Yeah, exactly.
24:24
And they have. You're right, Kevin Snugger, but
24:30
Josh Collins knew you call him snooker.
24:32
Rude. I don't know who's right, but
24:37
I'm leaning towards not Josh. You have a slugger route?
24:42
Sounds funny. Yeah alright.
24:44
Anyway, depending on how Jimmy does this year, I could see
24:47
Suitor being pretty solid either value lost around guy.
24:53
We were like, Oh yeah, him and then you take him and then you
24:56
stick around on your team for a few weeks and maybe even longer.
24:58
But definitely not worth draft capital by any means.
25:02
Probably not getting drafted even in the deepest of leagues.
25:05
And I disagree a little Kevin, because if he does play with any
25:09
of Booch, Jimmy Jordan, Cairo, Dylan Holloway or Jake neighbors
25:14
on the line and those are like their top five wingers, you
25:17
could do worse. Yeah, it's not.
25:20
It's not the most elite, but it's definitely not.
25:22
Yeah, I just see it as kind of like one of those situations
25:24
where like reminds me like a Pavel Zacha where he has like
25:27
crazy line mates, but he's never involved in like what's
25:30
happening. Like, yeah, his linemates are
25:32
are making things happen and and he's just not along.
25:36
For that, I feel like at the end of the year last year, Suitor
25:39
proved that he's like for. Sure.
25:41
And be involved. I just don't know if it was like
25:42
a Vancouver thing or if it was like a him thing.
25:45
So I'm still. There's no way that being on
25:48
Vancouver makes anyone that. Wasn't hard, It would be better
25:50
than what the lies Patterson was giving you.
25:52
So maybe it was just a comparison that was highlighting
25:56
his situation. I don't know.
25:58
Alright, should we dive into so the resignings now?
26:01
We could go through through these ones quicker but there are
26:04
some differences between the teams this coming year and this
26:07
past year, but realistically it's more of the same for the
26:11
next few. Yeah, so, and I will mention one
26:15
of the reasons why there's been so many resignings this
26:17
offseason is because of the cap raise rising.
26:19
So a lot of teams realize they actually have more money than
26:21
they thought they did, so they can actually keep all their
26:23
guys. So let's dive into it.
26:25
Firstly, we had mentioned this briefly, mentioned this a bit in
26:29
one of our read episodes last week, but Anaheim Ducks signed
26:32
Lucas Dostal to a 5 * 6.5 mil contract.
26:36
I mean, this is this is we, we, we, yeah, we spoke about that
26:39
style last last week when we talked about John Gibson, but
26:43
love this for him. I think he's a great goalie.
26:45
I think he's no, you know, he's obviously the the future of this
26:48
franchise at the at the goalie position.
26:51
And I, I think he's going to be like one of those guys that, you
26:53
know, goes later in your draft just because he's on a team
26:55
that's not supposed to be doing too well.
26:57
And he'll be a value wherever he goes.
26:58
Because for all those teams that don't draft goalies high like
27:01
you probably shouldn't we, I think all of us on this, on this
27:05
podcast, don't draft the goalies in the the top top rounds that
27:09
we don't recommend it. I think he's going to be a
27:11
popular pick for those guys that start off heavy at the forward
27:13
and defenseman positions. I really like him as a as a 0G
27:17
like late pick. Obviously sometimes guys like
27:21
this get overhyped because they're on these young teams, so
27:24
maybe we're all gonna like him and then he ends up going higher
27:26
than you would want to grab him. But if he falls then I like him
27:29
a lot. Yeah, I agree with that.
27:32
Does stall. He doesn't have a massive
27:35
contract like 5 * 6 five is. I think it's good.
27:38
It's just it's yeah, exactly. But it's not full of the money
27:43
to the point that they won't give me if he's going on a cold
27:46
streak, right? Nevertheless, he's gonna
27:49
definitely have the opportunity to be the starter from the
27:51
beginning of the year. Totally agree.
27:53
Josh for a 0 goalie strategy to stall is one of my favorite
27:56
guys. And I like the Ducks.
27:58
I mean, they're gonna be a fun team to say the least.
28:00
And you know the thing with fringe playoff teams, which I
28:03
believe the Ducks are, that's the guys, especially the goalies
28:07
that you want to hold towards the end of the year.
28:09
So if for whatever reason, you know, they're middle of the
28:13
pack, like he could be a buy halfway through the year.
28:15
If he is in fact the starter, I believe he will be.
28:17
All of us do. And even if you're gonna do it
28:19
at the beginning of the year, I think you could do worse than
28:22
just stall as if you're going big on goalies, you could be
28:25
your second goalie, or if you're going 0 G, he could be your top
28:28
goalie. Would you rather Lucas the style
28:30
or Samuel Moltable? It's like the biggest question
28:33
to me. I'm gonna pick monotone Boo.
28:35
I think we all loved Kevin's pronunciation of that the the
28:40
true authentic. I do what I can.
28:44
But I'm gonna go Montalbo here. What do you think, Josh?
28:47
I was actually just thinking how I would love to go into next
28:51
season with Montel Modo styles, my tandem.
28:53
I think like as a 0G guy like I we all you said we all do it
28:56
Kevin, but I'm the most extreme of us 3 for sure.
28:59
Or I will draft a goalie before like round 15.
29:03
Fab on multiple industries data gets traded.
29:06
Hey, you know what? I'd rather spend FAB than.
29:07
That depends what the draft capital.
29:09
Yes, But yeah, so if I was just thinking how I would love those
29:12
two as my tandem, but I would take Montem overdose style.
29:14
But I view them. I mean, we had mentioned this
29:16
last week where we kind of view Habs as one year ahead of ducks
29:19
on their rebuild. So I like both.
29:22
Perfect. Let's move on to the next
29:24
signing. Alright, Edmonton Oilers sign
29:26
Evan Bouchard to 4 * 10.5 mil contract.
29:29
Honestly, I feel like we all know Evan Bouchard at this
29:32
point. Like, I knew he was gonna sign.
29:34
Everybody knew he was gonna get signed.
29:36
It was honestly just gonna be about how much he gets signed
29:38
for. But yeah.
29:40
And it's still going to be a top five fantasy defenseman just
29:44
playing with dry saddle and McDavid.
29:46
He's on PS1. He has a a boom shot cannon
29:49
slapshot off the point. That was a lot of words, but
29:53
yes. But honestly, I feel it's not
29:57
really much analysis here. Like whatever you value Bouchard
29:59
last year, he'll be the same this year.
30:00
Situation has really changed and that's pretty much it for sure.
30:03
Yeah, I think it's more interesting real life than
30:06
fantasy. Fantasy.
30:07
It's like you said, same old, same old.
30:09
We know who he is. But the four years really stood
30:11
out at me as I'm not sure if it was Bouchard pushing for a
30:14
shorter term because you know, the cap was going up and thought
30:16
he could get more, or if it was the team thinking that, oh, this
30:19
guy's great offence but he's pretty weak defensively and
30:23
anyone could be great offence with McDavid and Drysdale.
30:25
We don't want to lock him up for eight years.
30:27
I don't know which side this term came from, but I found the
30:29
four years very interesting. I think, I think both teams are
30:32
both parties involved in this are probably happy because I
30:35
feel like, you know, give them the opportunity to cash in the
30:39
the cap is obviously going to go up in four years.
30:41
He's not he's not going to be bad.
30:42
He's still going to be probably at the peak of this game at this
30:45
point. And he gives him an opportunity
30:47
to to, you know, get another bag and also gives, you know,
30:51
Edmonton the flexibility to I mean, with their contracts, we
30:54
don't know who they're going to resign And, and I'm.
30:57
Mcdavid's coming to the House after this year.
30:59
So that's what I'm saying. So they definitely won't butcher
31:02
on the roster when they have David anymore.
31:03
So yeah, yeah, I just think it gives both parties flexibility
31:07
and both parties have advantages to having flexibility and I
31:10
think so I think it works out. I think we should see more
31:13
shorter term contracts to be honest for the league.
31:16
Mean first of all, in the new player, new CBA, eight years are
31:18
no longer allowed at the Max is 7 years.
31:20
So right off the bat already going to see any of those long
31:23
ones. But yeah, I agree, especially
31:24
with the cap rising, players want to.
31:26
They don't wanna get locked in for too low of an amount.
31:28
I have nothing to add here. It's the same for fantasy.
31:31
This year you're drafting him similarly to last year and he'll
31:34
be good. One of the top defensive you can
31:35
get. Let's move on to the next.
31:38
OK, the next. Evan Bouchard, a Quinn Hughes.
31:42
I'm I'm taking a, I think I'm taking cues over Bouchard.
31:47
I don't know. I don't know.
31:47
That's crazy because obviously you look at like the team,
31:50
right? And you look at who they're
31:51
playing with and McGraw is way better than the garbage
31:53
Vancouver is giving Hughes. But like Hughes is so much
31:56
better than Bouchard. So it's kind of, it's kind of
31:59
tough. I don't know.
32:00
I'm going to use. I don't know you guys.
32:01
Book Shorter Werenski. I'm going.
32:03
Because we're still one hit wonder.
32:05
Yeah, I think we should. Probably safer.
32:07
Just safer, Yeah. And The thing is, these guys are
32:09
getting picked in the first 3 rounds.
32:10
I don't like taking crazy risks that early.
32:13
I would take Werenski. Yeah, but you didn't.
32:18
Whoever they. Have There we go.
32:20
Surprise, surprise. Thank you, everybody for
32:23
listening to Party of This, the 14 biggest offseason signings.
32:29
So we're going to do the remaining 7 next episode.
32:31
And yeah, stay tuned for that. Take it away, Josh.
32:36
But about Bound Bang your management fantasy hockey
32:38
podcast woo. Wow.
32:41
It always surprises me when you do that.
32:45
Fantasy seeing you guys here. Good one.