Latest / Investor Exchange / Hock Lian Seng Holdings: Half-Year Financials June 2025
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- 0:02Time for another Investor Exchange podcast. Here are your hosts, Matt and Sally.
- 0:08Welcome to the Deep Dive. Forget sifting through endless reports yourself.
- 0:12We're giving you the ultimate shortcut to being truly well-informed.
- 0:16Yeah, it's like we're right here with you, maybe with a coffee,
- 0:19spreading out these financial documents.
- 0:21Exactly. And we're about to dissect the very latest performance of a company,
- 0:25Hockley and Sang Holdings Limited, or HLSH. Yes, HLSH.
- 0:30They're into some pretty core sectors.
- 0:32Right. Primarily civil engineering works, you know, big infrastructure like
- 0:36roads, train stations, also property development. And they do strategic investments, too.
- 0:41So building, selling, investing, it's quite a spread.
- 0:45It is. And our mission today is to unpack their unaudited, condensed interim
- 0:50financials for the first half of 2025, ending June 30th. And we'll be setting
- 0:55that against the same period last year, 1H 2024, right, to see the changes. Precisely.
- 0:59We want to pinpoint the why behind the numbers, good, bad, indifferent,
- 1:03what's driving it. And then, partially, what's the outlook?
- 1:06What does the future seem to hold for them? That's the plan.
- 1:09These reports can look dense, but honestly, sometimes the story inside is quite surprising.
- 1:15Let's jump straight into the financial performance. And I have to say,
- 1:18it's a bit of a mixed bag. Often the most interesting kind. Totally.
- 1:22So, on the surface, the top line...
- 1:26Well, it looks okay. Revenue actually increased. Okay. By how much?
- 1:29Total revenue for 1H 2025 was $103.3 million.
- 1:33That's up 3.5% from $99.8 million in the first half of 2024.
- 1:393.5% growth, so more activity, more money coming in the door,
- 1:43generally a positive sign.
- 1:44You'd think so, right? But this is where it gets really interesting.
- 1:48Ah, I sense a butt coming. The revenue isn't the whole picture. Not even close.
- 1:52Because despite that revenue growth, profitability just, well,
- 1:56it fell off a cliff. Okay, how bad are we talking?
- 1:58We're talking about the gross profit plummeting by a shocking 63.1%. Wow, 63%. That's huge.
- 2:04It is. It went from $21.3 million in 1H 2024, which sounds pretty healthy,
- 2:10down to just $7.8 million in 1H 2025.
- 2:14That kind of contrast, revenue up slightly, gross profit down by nearly two-thirds,
- 2:19that immediately signals a major issue.
- 2:22Yeah. What did that scream to you? It screams cost pressures or pricing power issues.
- 2:26Essentially, for every dollar of stuff they sold or built this year,
- 2:29it cost them way more to do it compared to last year.
- 2:32And that wasn't just the gross profit, was it? It flowed all the way down.
- 2:35Oh, absolutely. That kind of hit at the gross level cascades.
- 2:38Profit after taxation decreased by 57.5 percent.
- 2:4257 percent. Fell from over $20 million, 20.41 neighbor, down to just $8.682 million.
- 2:49Ouch. And for investors watching earnings per share, that's a key metric.
- 2:52It tumbled from 3.98 cents per share down to 1.68 cents.
- 2:57So less than half the earnings per share compared to last year. Exactly.
- 3:00It's a textbook example, really, of how top line growth, especially modest growth
- 3:04like this, can mask some serious underlying problems with costs.
- 3:08You see this a lot in construction and heavy industry. OK, so we need to understand the why.
- 3:13What drove that revenue increase, small as it was, and what absolutely hammered
- 3:18the profits? Let's start with the revenue drivers.
- 3:21Right. Let's break it down by segment. That usually tells the story.
- 3:23The main engine for revenue was definitely civil engineering.
- 3:27The infrastructure stuff. Yes.
- 3:29That segment brought in $90.1 million in 1H 2025.
- 3:34That's, what, 87% of their total revenue? Wow.
- 3:38Nearly all of it. And how does that compare to last year? It's a big jump up
- 3:41from $72.0 million in 1H 2024.
- 3:45So that segment is clearly busy.
- 3:47And why the increase there? Specific projects. Exactly.
- 3:50The report mentions higher construction activity specifically on two big MRT station projects.
- 3:57Sarangon North, that's CR 113, and Aviation Park, CR 103.
- 4:01Right, because major projects ramping up, driving that civil engineering revenue.
- 4:04Makes sense. But that wasn't the whole revenue story. Right,
- 4:07because the overall increase was only 3.5%. So something must have dragged it down. Correct.
- 4:11That was the property development segment. Its revenue actually declined quite a bit.
- 4:15It fell to $13.1 million in 1H 2025, down from $27.7 million in the same period last year.
- 4:23Okay, so a significant drop there. Why was that? Pretty straightforward reason given.
- 4:28Fewer units sold at their shine to a self-development. Ah, the industrial property project.
- 4:33Sales slowed down there. Seems so. So you had civil engineering pushing revenue
- 4:36up strongly, but property development pulling it back down, resulting in that,
- 4:40you know, modest overall gain. Got it. That explains the top line.
- 4:44But let's get back to that massive profit drop, that 63% fall in gross profit overall.
- 4:49And you mentioned civil engineering specifically took an 80% hit to its gross profit. That's right.
- 4:54Civil engineering gross profit went from $10.3 million down to just $2.0 million.
- 4:59Even though its revenue surged.
- 5:01So they did more work, but made drastically less profit on it. Why?
- 5:04What's the puzzle there? Well, it's less of a puzzle and more a reflection of
- 5:08the current environment, unfortunately.
- 5:09The main reason cited is elevated cost pressures on ongoing projects.
- 5:13Meaning materials, labor. Both, and likely more.
- 5:16Think steel, concrete, fuel costs.
- 5:21They've all been volatile, mostly rising. And labor shortages mean higher wages
- 5:26to attract and retain workers.
- 5:28These costs ate directly into their margins.
- 5:31So they're winning big projects, which is good, but the cost of actually doing
- 5:35the work has squeezed their profitability way down. Precisely.
- 5:38It's like running faster on a treadmill that's tilted steeper against you. That's a good analogy.
- 5:43Was there anything else impacting that profit comparison?
- 5:46Yes, and this is important for context. Next, there was a non-recurring factor in 1H 2024.
- 5:51Okay. The gross profit figure for the first half of 2024 actually included some
- 5:56cost savings they recognized when settling the final accounts for a joint venture, the CAG-JV project.
- 6:01Ah, so a one-off boost last year that wasn't repeated this year. Exactly.
- 6:05That made the 2024 number look better, and consequently it makes the 2025 comparison
- 6:09look worse than it might otherwise purely based on operational changes.
- 6:13Right. It inflates the base you're comparing against. And what about the property
- 6:16development profit? I assume that dropped, too.
- 6:18It did. And that was, as you'd expect, mainly due to the reduced sales activity.
- 6:23Fewer sales means less gross profit coming in from that segment.
- 6:26OK, so core operations were squeezed. Yeah.
- 6:29But I also saw other income dropped by about 15 percent.
- 6:32That probably didn't help the bottom line either. No, it certainly contributed
- 6:35to the overall profit decline.
- 6:37That was about a one point zero million dollar drop in other income.
- 6:41What caused that? It was a few things, really.
- 6:44Lower rental income from their unsold development units. Okay.
- 6:47A big drop in government grants. They got $0.6 million in 1H 2024.
- 6:52But basically zero in 1H 2025.
- 6:55Wow, that's quite a cut. Yeah, and also lower interest income.
- 6:58Now, they did have a bit of good news there. A higher fair value gain on investment
- 7:02securities. That went up from $1 million to $0.7 million.
- 7:06So the value of their investments went up on paper. Right. But the drop in rent,
- 7:10grants and interest income more than wiped out that gain.
- 7:13So net-net, other income was down, adding to the pressure on profits.
- 7:17Okay, so profit took a major beating due to costs, a non-recurring prior year
- 7:22gain and lower other income.
- 7:24Let's shift gears to cash. Profit is one thing, but cash flow.
- 7:29That's the lifeblood, right? Absolutely. Especially in construction where payments
- 7:33can lag behind work done.
- 7:34And I noticed a huge decrease in net cash generated from operating activities.
- 7:38It went from almost $29 million, $28.99 never, in 1H2024, way down to just $4.6 million in 1H2025.
- 7:48That's a significant drop. And their overall cash balance fell by $6.5 million during the period.
- 7:53What's going on with the cash? Okay, so the big reason for the lower operating
- 7:56cash flow was money being tied up in higher contract assets.
- 7:59Contract assets, meaning work they've done but haven't billed for yet? Essentially, yes.
- 8:03Costs incurred and profits recognized on projects ahead of billing.
- 8:07So revenue might be recognized on the income statement, but the cash hasn't
- 8:11actually arrived. Got it. So more work in progress tying up cash.
- 8:14Right. Now, this was partly offset by cash coming in from sales of those development
- 8:18properties. And also, they got some retention money released from that CAG-JV project, finally.
- 8:22Okay, so some inflows, but overshadowed by cash tied up in ongoing work.
- 8:26And the overall cash balance drop, where did that $6.5 million go? Two main places.
- 8:34First, a pretty significant dividend payment to shareholders that was $9.2 million
- 8:38going out the door. Rewarding the owners. Yep.
- 8:40And second, cash used for investing activities about $1.4 million.
- 8:45This was mainly buying new plant and equipment, you know, machinery vehicles
- 8:49and also adding to their investment securities.
- 8:51So paying dividends and investing in the business, both using up cash.
- 8:55Exactly. They're pulling cash from operations, which we're generating less,
- 8:58and using it for shareholder returns and future investment. Okay,
- 9:02that explains the cash movement.
- 9:03What about their overall financial standing, their balance sheet?
- 9:06Shareholders' equity, the company's net worth dipped slightly,
- 9:10right? Right. By about $7 million?
- 9:11That's correct. It went from $284.46 million at the end of 2024 down to $283.91
- 9:18million at June 30th, 2025.
- 9:21A small decrease. Is that worrying or is it explained by those cash movements?
- 9:24It's mostly explained by the things we just discussed.
- 9:27The biggest hit to equity was that $9.2 million dividend payment.
- 9:31Equity also reduced slightly from buying back treasury shares,
- 9:35about $0.2 million worth.
- 9:37Right. Dividends and buybacks reduce equity. But offsetting that outflow,
- 9:41you had the net profit for the period, the $8.5 million, which gets added back to equity.
- 9:45And also a small fair value gain on investment securities recognized in comprehensive
- 9:50income, about $0.2 million.
- 9:54So the profit helped cushion the blow from the dividend and buyback.
- 9:57Pretty much, yeah. It resulted in that small net decrease. But importantly,
- 10:02looking at their assets, their non-current assets actually increased.
- 10:05Oh, how much? By $3.2 million.
- 10:08And that was mainly driven by buying $2.3 million worth of new plan and equipment
- 10:12after accounting for depreciation and disposals.
- 10:15Investing in their core capability. Yes. And also adding $2.0 million to their
- 10:20long-term investment securities.
- 10:22So despite the profit squeeze, they are still putting money into assets for
- 10:25the future? That's a good sign, I suppose.
- 10:27Investing through the tough times. Okay, so that's the snapshot of the last
- 10:31six months. What about looking forward?
- 10:33What's the outlook for HLSH?
- 10:36Well, first, the company says these results, while challenging,
- 10:39were broadly in line with the outlook they gave previously for the 2024 financial year-end.
- 10:44So perhaps not a total shock to management.
- 10:46Okay, they kind of expected some headwinds. Seems like it. And the big positive
- 10:50is still that civil engineering segment.
- 10:52As of June 30th, 2025, they had an order book of roughly $335 million.
- 10:59$335 million. That's substantial. It is. And it's mostly those two big station
- 11:04projects, Aviation Park and Sarangoon North.
- 11:06That provides a pretty solid pipeline of work and revenue visibility for the near term.
- 11:10So the main engine still has fuel in the tank. What about the property side?
- 11:14Any update on Shine at 2SL?
- 11:15Yeah, they gave an update to date. They've sold 59.2% of the units and leased
- 11:19out another 39%. Okay, so nearly 60% sold, nearly 40% leased.
- 11:24That's most of it accounted for in some way.
- 11:27Progress, albeit maybe slow. Steady progress, perhaps.
- 11:31Industrial property can take time to fill, but...
- 11:35And it's a significant but. The broader industry context is still tough.
- 11:39The cost pressures aren't going away. Doesn't sound like it.
- 11:42They explicitly mention the construction industry remains challenging.
- 11:46Why? What are the main issues they see?
- 11:49The usual suspects, really. A very competitive environment, meaning tight bidding for projects.
- 11:54Ongoing labor shortages, which pushes up wages. And, of course,
- 11:58rising material and labor costs persisting.
- 12:01So those same factors that squeeze their profits in the first half are likely to stick around.
- 12:06That seems to be the expectation. It's not just an HLSH issue.
- 12:09It's impacting the whole sector.
- 12:11It really raises the question of how companies manage in this kind of environment.
- 12:15Yeah, with a strong order book. But facing these constant cost battles,
- 12:18it sounds like a tightrope walk for profitability on every project. It really does.
- 12:22So what's management saying they'll do? What's their strategy to navigate this
- 12:25and, as they say, enhance shareholder value?
- 12:28Their stated plan is basically twofold.
- 12:31First, keep competing for those big infrastructure projects,
- 12:35but doing so competitively.
- 12:36That suggests a real focus on cost control and efficiency in bidding and execution.
- 12:42Got to be sharp on the numbers. Absolutely.
- 12:44And second, they plan to explore other business opportunities.
- 12:48That's a bit more open-ended, but it suggests they're looking beyond just their
- 12:51traditional work, maybe seeking diversification or higher margin activities
- 12:55to bolster the bottom line.
- 12:57Interesting. So sticking Speaking to their knitting in civil engineering while
- 13:02keeping an eye out for new paths.
- 13:04That seems to be the strategy. Proactive, but within a challenging landscape.
- 13:08Wow. So quite the deep dive. We started with what looked like a simple revenue
- 13:11increase, maybe a bit modest.
- 13:13Yeah, 3.5%. And uncovered this whole complex story underneath.
- 13:17Strong civil engineering activity, yes, but hammered by costs.
- 13:21Property development slowing down.
- 13:23Other income streams shrinking. Leading to that really sharp drop in profits
- 13:26and a squeeze on operating cash flow.
- 13:28Even while they continue to invest in equipment and pay dividends.
- 13:31It really shows how misleading just looking at revenue can be.
- 13:35It absolutely does. And it leaves us and you, the listener, with a really important
- 13:39question to think about, doesn't it?
- 13:40Which is? How do companies like HLSH, operating in these tough,
- 13:46capital-intensive industries with persistent headwinds like cost inflation and
- 13:49labor shortages, How do they genuinely balance growth and winning new work against
- 13:55the absolute necessity of maintaining profitability and healthy cash flow?
- 13:59And how do they manage that difficult tradeoff between investing for the long
- 14:03term, buying that equipment, securing those future assets versus the immediate
- 14:08pressure on their financial resources today?
- 14:10It's a fundamental challenge. And HLSH's recent performance is a really vivid
- 14:14example of just how tricky that balancing act is right now.
- 14:20Thank you.