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Super El Nino [05.23.2026] · Garden America Saturday

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Garden America, the country's most listened to gardening show,
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  Speaker 1: where we talk about gardening, horticulture, landscaping and more. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: we'll discuss anything that has to do with growing plants
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  Speaker 1: and keeping your yard in tip top shape. Now here
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  Speaker 1: are your hosts, Brian Maine, John Bagnasco, and Tiger Palafox
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  Speaker 1: on the Garden America Radio and Media Network.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, fellow gardeners, fellow people who just like to tune
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  Speaker 2: into the Internet, people who have come across us by mistake,
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  Speaker 2: people cruising Facebook. Hey, who are those guys? Well, we're
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  Speaker 2: garden America. I'm Brian Maine, John Begnasco, Tiger Pellafox. We're
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  Speaker 2: here every week for the most part. John, how's your
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  Speaker 2: phone doing there? You know what?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 2: It's funny. John was the kind of guy as a kid.
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  Speaker 2: He used to like to sit in the back of
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  Speaker 2: the station wagging of station wagon. I should say, facing.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the back of the phases of people.
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  Speaker 2: No, but facing back because he always wanted to know
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  Speaker 2: where he's been, and the phone's kind of the same way.
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  Speaker 2: There's kind of a delay, and he wants to hear
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  Speaker 2: what it was that we just talked about.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I'm not to start the show off on
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  Speaker 4: a bad note, but I had hope for my son, who, right,
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  Speaker 4: who does not know how to pick up his towel
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  Speaker 4: off of his bedroom floor. You know, he goes, takes
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  Speaker 4: a shower, he goes into his room, he changes, and
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  Speaker 4: there's just a pile of towels on his bedroom floor.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like, man, just pick it up, hanging up,
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  Speaker 4: pick it up as you go as you go.
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  Speaker 5: Why is this such an issue? And he's just like,
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, and.
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  Speaker 4: He's he's sorry, and he does it when I bring
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  Speaker 4: it up. But I have to bring it up John
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  Speaker 4: every show the phone goes off with the audio. Yet
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  Speaker 4: I'm starting to lose hope for Isaac.
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  Speaker 6: Do you know what I just learned?
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  Speaker 3: Though?
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  Speaker 6: Come on, let's first of all, I'm a lot older
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  Speaker 6: than you guys.
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  Speaker 2: Right, wait a second, you know what there's I want
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  Speaker 2: to talk see this fly right now?
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  Speaker 3: That's going to annoying.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I want to talk about flies after we're done. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: all right, Now, where was You're talking about?
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  Speaker 6: His years old?
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  Speaker 2: You're older than us that you are our sensing?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, what were we the phone going on the phone
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  Speaker 6: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I just learned something. So I
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  Speaker 6: learned at a different rate than you guys. I learned
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  Speaker 6: new things, right, Okay, you know it's that old dog
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  Speaker 6: do you learn new old things? Don't confuse me, no, okay,
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  Speaker 6: because I'm losing my train of thought. But one thing
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  Speaker 6: I just learned is that to go along with what
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  Speaker 6: you're saying, Tiger, is like you almost make it sound
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  Speaker 6: like you don't even try. And it's not true because.
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  Speaker 3: Before the show, you were every.
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  Speaker 6: Show I turned down the volume. But what I've just
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  Speaker 6: come to realize is that unless I turned the volume
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  Speaker 6: down when I'm on this site, you know, when the
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  Speaker 6: show's live, it doesn't work, I think.
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  Speaker 3: Is what you do?
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  Speaker 6: Yes exactly, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You don't turn down the you turn down the ringer.
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  Speaker 6: But how many years have we been doing this? And
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  Speaker 6: now you tell me after I discovered myself?
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  Speaker 2: Did you now the analogy I used about the station
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  Speaker 2: wagon when I was a kid, our neighbors had a
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  Speaker 2: country squire.
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  Speaker 4: Was that the like Chevy Chase, they had the wood panel.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I'm talking about like.
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  Speaker 4: Chevy Chase Vacation movie where they had of station wagon
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  Speaker 4: and it had like the paneling on the side exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so on the very back a seat would pop up,
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  Speaker 2: but you were facing the back.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and you used to wave with people.
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  Speaker 2: To know, hey, this is where we've been. That was
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  Speaker 2: my analogy when I stumbled out of the gate and
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't talk that I was trying to make because
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  Speaker 2: when we hear the phone or a computer, it's usually
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  Speaker 2: a little bit behind. There's that delay.
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  Speaker 5: It's like ten fifteen seconds or something.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Okay, so we're three minutes and eighteen seconds into
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  Speaker 2: the show.
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  Speaker 6: Not one, not one mentioned a garden. Yeah, new record.
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  Speaker 6: But I had a great gardening week, and I don't
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  Speaker 6: know about great, but certainly busy. Yesterday I drove out
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  Speaker 6: to Cathedral City and I told Tiger I was working
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  Speaker 6: on a hundred degree heat. It was really only ninety seven,
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  Speaker 6: but it felt like round numbers off three degrees. And
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  Speaker 6: I was visiting Cliff Orient and I was I took
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  Speaker 6: some cuttings from some roses. One I had lost, Angela Lansbury.
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  Speaker 2: The rose I'm thinking, I'm thinking, I don't think she's
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  Speaker 2: still alive.
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  Speaker 3: She lived in her nineties. I think though, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Close to one hundred, right, But anyway, I couldn't find
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  Speaker 6: that rose anywhere. No one else has it, and Cliff
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  Speaker 6: happened to have one in his house got some cutting.
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  Speaker 6: Well you know, he had more plumeria than he did roses.
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  Speaker 6: And I showed you a picture. I'm going to put
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  Speaker 6: it in this coming week.
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  Speaker 3: You have to.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't even put it on a Facebook page, right.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's the biggest plumeria I've ever seen in
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  Speaker 6: southern California. It had to be let's say, Cliff is
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  Speaker 6: six foot, so it had to be twenty five feet
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  Speaker 6: to thirty feet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean you look at the picture, it takes
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  Speaker 2: up the whole screen.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, So that was an amazing But anyway, I picked
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  Speaker 6: up some roses from him, and and he donated his
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  Speaker 6: rose library to the upcoming auction next spring in San
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  Speaker 6: Diego at the World Federation of Roses. So that's that's
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  Speaker 6: going to be exciting. Speaking of auctions, the California Coastal
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  Speaker 6: ROAs Society where rose auction is online right now and
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  Speaker 6: there's about I think there's fifty one roses that are
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  Speaker 6: up forbid, and the bidding ends next Sunday. I believe
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  Speaker 6: it's either next Sunday or tomorrow but yeah, it does
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  Speaker 6: say online go to CCRs Auctions silent auction, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: it's an online auction only.
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  Speaker 2: So but unless unless if you're online, you can still
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  Speaker 2: talk to yourself and say, I'm going to bid on
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  Speaker 2: this rose.
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  Speaker 6: Well you could or you know what if they called you,
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  Speaker 6: what about you started bidding with them and I could
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  Speaker 6: just do sign language, you could, that's true. So anyway,
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  Speaker 6: some great roses. There's six roses I believe on there
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  Speaker 6: that have never been offered. Uh, it's the only roads
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  Speaker 6: being offered in the United States, and one for absolute shirts,
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  Speaker 6: the first time it's ever been offered in the United
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  Speaker 6: There's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of firsts, aren't there.
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  Speaker 6: There is, and you would think there'd only be one,
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  Speaker 6: one would think, right anyway at c c RS auction
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  Speaker 6: dot com. And no matter where you're listening in the country, uh,
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  Speaker 6: Hastam and Pakistan, it won't work. But anywhere in the
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  Speaker 6: country we will ship them the week the auction ends.
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  Speaker 3: Or.
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  Speaker 4: Or you even you've even held some for some people
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  Speaker 4: to come pick up and everything when they.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, if you're in the in the area, if
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  Speaker 6: you're near Fallbark and you want to pick them up
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  Speaker 6: in Fallbrook, you're more than welcome to.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think that the San Diego Plumeria Society is cutting
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  Speaker 4: sale is happening this weekend.
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  Speaker 5: Really yeah, so if the area I know right.
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  Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I wasn't even planning for it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: so I don't be going today.
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  Speaker 3: I think so.
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  Speaker 6: Because I want to drive over there after the show.
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  Speaker 4: Do you have Carla's comment because she read your article
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  Speaker 4: about garden mentors.
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  Speaker 6: And comment, Okay, oh here it comes.
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  Speaker 4: You read it, John, because it's kind of more towards
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  Speaker 4: what you created.
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  Speaker 6: So I like it all right.
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  Speaker 2: Don't pre read it.
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  Speaker 6: Just go cold turkey, okay, Carlos says John. I enjoyed
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  Speaker 6: your article on garden mentors, and it made me think
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  Speaker 6: I spent enough time with Grandma to learn to love
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  Speaker 6: African violets. I fell in love with the expense expanse
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  Speaker 6: of Kansas farmland while visiting there as a kid. I
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  Speaker 6: remember picking blackberries with Grandma and her patch and being
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  Speaker 6: eaten alive by chiggers. Doesn't that sound.
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  Speaker 2: Sugars?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 6: You think they would have been the end of That
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  Speaker 6: would have been the end of garden for me. But
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  Speaker 6: I think that my main mentors have been you all
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  Speaker 6: of you good people at Garden Compass America over the years.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Garden Compass America. That's good. That goes back.
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  Speaker 6: It's been there a long time. What was before that
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  Speaker 6: was over the hedge, over the hedge, Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 6: over the hedge.
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  Speaker 3: Garden Compass Guard in America.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, over the.
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  Speaker 6: Hedge was just Bruce yeah, right, And then when Brian
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  Speaker 6: and I started it was Garden Company.
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  Speaker 2: Was Garden Compass.
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  Speaker 4: Where was the Presidio nursery that Bruce and Sharon ran?
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  Speaker 4: Was called Prosidio Nursery?
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  Speaker 2: Was that was that off?
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  Speaker 6: They ran the one in Benita, Okay, but the one
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  Speaker 6: that's by Marina Boulevards, that's the one I know was
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  Speaker 6: Presidio Nursery and that was Bruce's family is still started
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  Speaker 6: the nursery. You know, do you know where the trolley
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  Speaker 6: trolley station road?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Fright and right.
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  Speaker 6: Friars and no, no, I'm Marina Boulevard.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah, but at the end of Marina Boulevard right,
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  Speaker 2: if you're heading south, yes, right, yeah, but then Friars
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  Speaker 2: does come up. It doesn't necessarily an intersect, but there's like.
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  Speaker 4: A police station, a YMCA, a trolley stop all right there.
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  Speaker 5: That's where it was. Yes, okay, Now.
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  Speaker 6: When I went to California, it's one of my favorite
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  Speaker 6: places to shop because not only do they have a
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  Speaker 6: great selection of plants, but they had a full one
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  Speaker 6: aquarium there. Really, I mean, yes, fish store.
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  Speaker 2: Why did you get out of the aquarium just I know
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  Speaker 2: that before I got a fish guy. Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 2: a lot of work to do all that, but it's
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  Speaker 2: worth it. Once a month he comes. Makes you like
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  Speaker 2: it's like a pool guy.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I don't have anywhere to put one now.
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  Speaker 2: Oh it looks so Good's home?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, eight bedrooms?
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  Speaker 3: Just kidding.
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  Speaker 6: I have one bed two bedrooms. It's a two bedroom house.
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  Speaker 5: Your house is a two bedrooms.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't look like it doesn't.
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  Speaker 5: Your bedroom must be as big as my house, like.
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  Speaker 2: With a fireplace in there and everything.
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  Speaker 6: Right, I don't know bathroom the bathroom is. I don't
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  Speaker 6: know about the bedroom.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, wow, I love it.
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  Speaker 2: I love that aquarium and it's so cathartic, especially at
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  Speaker 2: night watching TV looking over there, and.
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  Speaker 6: I like, I like, uh, I like love aquariums. Maybe
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  Speaker 6: some day, if I retire, I'll go out one.
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  Speaker 5: I think I'll get an aquarium too.
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  Speaker 2: Not now, but no, but get a fish guy. I
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  Speaker 2: got a great guy. So you still maintain it in between,
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  Speaker 2: do the little things like.
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  Speaker 3: That of course that it's like a pool. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 3: know what time it is, it's time for a break. Break.
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  Speaker 2: We look forward to this. Yeah, our first break, the
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  Speaker 2: first segments in the history books.
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  Speaker 5: And yes, pumary sale this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so thank you for tuning in. Thank you to
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  Speaker 7: Messages, welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
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  Speaker 7: John and Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, here we go, Hot Mike, Hot Mike, Careful, careful,
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  Speaker 2: what's going on? Welcome back to Garden America. Thank you
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  Speaker 2: for spending part of your weekend with us. Your Saturday morning. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: long weekend. By the way, Happy Memorial Day formerly known
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  Speaker 2: in my dad's generation as Decoration Day.
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  Speaker 6: John, And there was an article about that in the
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  Speaker 6: Garden American newsletter.
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  Speaker 2: That's what brought up that old memory of mine. My
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  Speaker 2: dad would say decoration day. I go, it's a memorial day.
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  Speaker 6: Well, speaking of old memories, you were mentioning how much
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  Speaker 6: you liked school when you had to memorize stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Love memorizing.
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  Speaker 6: And you you've asked me in the past, why don't
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  Speaker 6: you ever have any quotes from Pericles?
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  Speaker 2: I think probably a dozen times, and you know, he
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  Speaker 2: pooh pooed me.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no way.
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  Speaker 6: The squeeze quote is from Pericles, and it goes along
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  Speaker 6: with decoration day and with with uh what we were
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  Speaker 6: talking about, and with the article that was in the newsletter,
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  Speaker 6: and he said, what we leave behind is not what
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  Speaker 6: is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into
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  Speaker 6: the lives of others.
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  Speaker 3: You can clear.
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  Speaker 6: Throat, you know, I think coffee, Oh yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 6: recks my throat. I should throw coffee for.
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  Speaker 2: The I have to be careful what I eat during
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  Speaker 2: the week when I'm recording commercials.
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  Speaker 6: Uh huh.
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  Speaker 2: And definitely not milk, because because it anything that that
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  Speaker 2: coach the throat doesn't give you like a clear uh
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  Speaker 2: way to speedrins.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, tea works though, tea works really good.
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  Speaker 6: All right, well I noticed peppermint tea with lemon helps.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely to your quote John Heracles, Okay.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, what we leave behind is not what's engraved in
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  Speaker 6: stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: And I think something that I really appreciate that is
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  Speaker 4: left behind.
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  Speaker 2: Is just stuff you pick up after your dog.
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  Speaker 4: There is you know, when I don't know, I've done
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  Speaker 4: a number of tree plantings with the kids, and when
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  Speaker 4: I look at a tree now that you know was
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  Speaker 4: something that we planted, whether it's in Balboa Park or
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  Speaker 4: a park or even around our home, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean. And you had it back in your old
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  Speaker 4: holesome Fallbrook, old home in Fallbrook, because you would talk
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  Speaker 4: about how, oh I planted that.
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  Speaker 3: Tree and right, and.
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  Speaker 4: Those are monuments that I appreciate, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: Those are the things that like when you really think
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  Speaker 4: about like something that's like a memorial.
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  Speaker 3: A tree, and we've talked about that.
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  Speaker 4: Or some kind of garden or something is really inspirational.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, We've talked about how I've gotten plants from you
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  Speaker 6: from listeners and and things that I've planned and it
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  Speaker 6: is memorial. And when I walk through my garden, you know,
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  Speaker 6: it's like walking through the pages of your life.
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  Speaker 2: Brian, Yes, isn't it so? Speaking of that fly that's
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  Speaker 2: buzzing around real quick?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, bring that back.
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  Speaker 2: I just had this thought the other day. I was
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  Speaker 2: talking to Dana. It was it kind of it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of parallels to something we talked about a few years ago.
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  Speaker 2: How we don't see many bugs in a windshields anymore.
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  Speaker 2: You used to see more. But when I was a kid,
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  Speaker 2: house flies were everywhere. You just kind of live with it.
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  Speaker 2: You have a fly swatter, open the window. I don't
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  Speaker 2: see flies anymore.
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  Speaker 3: You know what tell me?
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  Speaker 4: Because you're an adult and you close the door.
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  Speaker 5: When you were a.
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  Speaker 4: Kid, you left the door open all the time. That's true,
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  Speaker 4: and your parents used to get annoyed and say, hey,
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  Speaker 4: close the door right all the time. Because I have
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  Speaker 4: kids and they just leave the door open.
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  Speaker 2: And we have fly I do have flying okay, Because
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking I don't see flies, we have, well, we
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  Speaker 2: have one in here right now.
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  Speaker 4: But you and Dana are mature adults that when you
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  Speaker 4: walk outside, you close the do were behind And I
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  Speaker 4: think for a screen or something.
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  Speaker 2: I think maybe back in the day not all windows
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  Speaker 2: had screens, did we used to.
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  Speaker 4: Open I definitely agree with that, maybe in the PB
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  Speaker 4: area because you guys didn't.
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  Speaker 5: Have a lot of big bug probably.
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  Speaker 2: No screens, screens and whay.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean you didn't have a big like
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  Speaker 4: bug probably population. But areas that have bugs, that's like
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  Speaker 4: the whole And you know, we had.
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  Speaker 3: We had ants too. We kind of accepted it.
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  Speaker 2: When Danasy's ants, she's like, oh my gosh, we gotta
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  Speaker 2: get rid of these ants. And it becomes a whole day.
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  Speaker 3: She's spending on relax and you guys.
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  Speaker 6: Have it's only when they come without their uncles.
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  Speaker 2: It's a family thing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was a good that was anyway.
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  Speaker 3: I was just it's true though.
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  Speaker 6: I was wondering, is Tiger calling my wife immature.
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  Speaker 5: Because you have flies?
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  Speaker 3: You leave the door open?
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  Speaker 6: The door open all It's like I I cannot and
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: I was. She was raised in Michigan too, though, But
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: in Michigan you cannot leave a door open for any
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: big bugs. There's lots of flies in this and everything
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: up there. But yeah, I can't eat to this day,
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: I cannot leave the if I go outside, I don't
• 16:07
  Speaker 6: leave the door open. I've got to close it right
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: behind me.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we have so much to get through.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: Was it Carla who wrote the message about chigger bugs?
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: No, No, that was somebody that in Brisbane now Brisbane, right,
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: that was Daisy. She wants to know what's the tugger? So, oh,
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: carl I mentioned.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Charlotte, Kansas.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: So a chigger is a mite bye, by like definition,
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: it's a mite, so kind of like a bed bug,
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: those kinds of bugs. But you know, fleas not tick
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: because they don't burrow, but they bite and they can
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: transmit diseases. So tiggers are like problematic because like you know,
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: the areas that like you have, like the grasslands and
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: stuff like that to be the same basic issue as
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: far as fleas or ticks that as you walk through
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: a field, they'll just like grab onto you and they'll
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: bite you.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: So not fun they grab you.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: Exactly sounds like exactly.
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: An ambushes is in tiggers. Trying to think, isn't it tiggers?
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: What chew on Saint Augustine grass?
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: I think?
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: So yeah, And you've got they put that down in
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: the summer. Pesticide in order to take care of tchiggers.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, they are problematic. It's it's funny. Yeah,
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: they actually go kind of plants and people because dude,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: ticks and fleas don't eat plants. They're not omnivores, right,
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: they're just carnivores.
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: The flies on your back, by the way, time isn't
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: as you go up the five past Camp Pendleton, isn't
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: one of those roads lost pulgas. Yes, yeah, and that
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: means the fleas.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: Right, yeah, exactly.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: I don't know if i'd want to move into the area,
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: at least not if you had pets.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: We're jumping all over the place. But I did want
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: to mention the plumara sale because I mentioned it right
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: before the bream. So it's a cutting sale only this
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: time it's at Balbo Park ten to four today and tomorrow.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: And a cutting sale only means that basically, if you
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: don't know plumeria is you can cut off branches of
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: a plumeria and they're healed, and you can buy that
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: and then you can take it home and plant it
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: and it will grow into a plumeria.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: And do you use the egg method to root it?
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Do you I've used to you have I remember egg
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: method right right right?
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: Tell everybody about this because some people probably don't realize.
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: Well, basically, you just take a chicken egg or a
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: duck egg. I guess duckage would work too, and you
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: put it at the bottom. If you're putting your plumerius
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: a in a one gallon pot to root, it's very
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: important that you rooted in loose soil. A cactus mix
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: or potting soil that is fifty percent per light would
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: probably be the best. But put an egg down at
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: the bottom of where the cutting is. Yeah, and as
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: the egg decomposes and sulfurs, it releases all the right
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: not hard boiled and don't crack. Yeah, just put it
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: in whole. And if you google that you can read
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: some of the reasons. It's the egg decomposes the sulfurs
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: that come from it aid in the rooting process.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: There was I've got about I'll try to look it
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: up while we're out of the break, but there was
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: a TikTok video that Janine showed me, and I was like,
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: I'm gotta talk to John about because I think I've
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: seen it before. But it's basically, you know when somebody
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: gets cut flowers and then they cut it to do
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: a cutting, and then they put it in. I want
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: to say it's an egg, but I could be wrong.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: I'll look it up, try to get it through the break.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: But I feel like we've talked about this before.
• 19:44
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• 19:46
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• 19:49
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• 19:50
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• 19:51
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• 20:12
  Speaker 7: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: John and Tiger.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Oh. Yes, we are back from that break there was
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: people were wondering have.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: They got to come back?
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: It's questionable, you know, what are they doing now?
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: The people on Facebook can watch us, and I hope
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: nobody can read lips, you know.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: Okay, So anywhere the break.
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: I wanted to mention quickly because you you don't lose
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: your train of thought. Veronica had commented on the pictures
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: that were in the newsletter and she said that Bill
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: Stahlia was so cool. That was Bill or Nellis when
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: we went to his house for the show we did
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: on Dahlia's and she commented on Colleen Colleen's hydrangea in
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: up and Redding and million. The pomo had a a
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: Rabuttia or rabbucha cactus, which are you familiar with those?
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: They're like small cactus, but they've got these huge red
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: flowers compared to the size of cactus. And you're trying
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: to say rude bekia no versus in full balloom. So anyway, yeah,
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: I thought the pictures were great this week. And if
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: you have pictures to send to us, just send them
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: to JOHNI. Gardanamerica dot com. We'll try to get them
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: in the news letter. Okay, Now back to your train
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: of thought.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: So it was a TikTok video and somebody had been
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: given a bouquet of cut flowers, right, and they were like, oh,
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: if you have this bouquet of cut flowers, you can
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: take a cutting. So they cut off the blossom, they
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: got a part of it, and then they did a
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: new cutting off of the bottom and they took that
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: and they stuck it in a potato and then they
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: rooted the cutting in a potato planted that and then
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: they say it grows into a rose plant.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Thoughts, I, it's a I no, no, no, what.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Do you think.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of potatoes in Idaho, and possibly one
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: of one might have worked that way, but I would
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: say the chances are almost zero.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: And is it because of the potato or is it
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: because you can't take a cutting from a bouquet of roses?
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: You can if but not from the flower part. You know,
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: it's got to be way below And it's just like,
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: why would you do that?
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: Sometimes sometimes would the bouquet. Sometimes there's ideas that work,
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: but it's like the hardest, most difficult way to do something.
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, it's just what did Charon always used
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: to say mendoksai, which is Japanese for just too much trouble? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: why do it? There's other better ways to do it.
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: You can. You can root rose cuttings just by you know,
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: dipping them and rooting hormone and.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Putting them in a nice medium, right, keeping it wet
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: and yeah yeah so, but putting it in a potatoes
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: and guaranteeing a better result.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: No, No, I think if you're just fooling around and
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: get your kids, it's kind of something fun to do.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I don't think you take it seriously. You just say,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: let's see what happens. But you're right, and it does.
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: But if you want to show your kids, well, let's
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: see what happens. The best thing to do it would
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: be just to get a baggie. Yeah, take the cutting
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: and put it. Fill the baggie with halfway with pearlites,
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: stick the cutting in there and let it root.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Well, you're all about drainage, are you.
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: You know drainage is sometimes underrated.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: So that'll I have a topic about drainage that I
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: wanted to get to.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Do we have any more questions?
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: We got tons of commons.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'll lead into it and if we need
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: to pivot it.
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: Oh, you know. I had an interesting comment, you know,
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: when we were talking about plants bringing memories to life.
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: She said that her her grant was it her grandmother
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: or maybe it was she would always put a note
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: in a bottle of who who was there or who
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: planted that tree?
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: Really yeah, and buried the base with the tree.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, wouldn't that be That's a great idea.
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I don't know if anyone would ever see it,
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: but yeah, yeah, I thought that was a great, great idea.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: That is a great idea.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: Carlo wanted to mention how sad it was that the
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: weekend is now just barbecue and sales.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Memorial no more decoration day.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, barbecue.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: And we were commenting, and I'll get into my next
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: subject real quick, but it is a little bit sad.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: We were talking about this last show that holidays have
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: moved into that direction. You know, it used to be
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: that if you your your Thanksgiving dinner supplies, you had
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: to buy before Thanksgiving Day, meaning meaning you couldn't go
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: to the grocery store on Thanksgiving and get a turkey right.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: Nowadays, pick it up because it's I'll be cooked for
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: the whole meal, right.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: So, so it used to be they were closed, grocery
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: stores were closed, all stores were closed on these major holidays.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: So it did force people to just hang out with
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: their family, hang out with their friends.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Maybe do a little more self reflecting of what the
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: holiday means.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, where nowadays everything's just open and so therefore it's
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: almost like any other day. And that's kind of a
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: have you noticed too, and this has been going on
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: for a while that they can't wait to push you
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: into the next holiday.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Oh gosh.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: In other words, like okay, it's it's December, January, but
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: the Valentine's decorations have been up probably the day after Christmas. Yes,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: you know, and it's.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Like whoa, whoa, slow down. They're really just pushing.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: You through life and like, oh, and you're right, sales
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: and marketing. Let's get let's get to the next one. Yeah,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm sorry. I was going to say, and
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: it's the same way with back to school. I was
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: watching an old in San Diego Channel eight News and
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: they were going back showing these archives of San Diego
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: in the sixties and seventies and these development of shopping centers,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: and the one guy says, yep, and you know what,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: soon as August comes, it's going to be back to
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: school shopping. Yeah, that's you waited till August and school
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: started in September. Now the day's June July. They're talking
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: about back to school.
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: In some cases the school starts in August. Now.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, ours, it was easy.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Middle of June. You were out and you went back
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: around September.
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: You went back after Labor Day. Yeah, always after Labor Day,
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: never before.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Never.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: So yeah, So anyways, it's a bummer that we pushed
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: through the holidays like that, right, exactly, But I when
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: the next subject I wanted to get to. I don't
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: know if you guys were watching the news, and we've
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: talked about weather a lot because gardening and weather we're
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: can in hand. We have to know what's happening with
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: the weather in order to be successful.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: When you were a kid, did you care about the weather?
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: I did not.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Kids didn't talk about the weather. Hey, Johnny, guess what
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: it's gonna rain tomorrow. But as adults we do.
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: Well you grow up though, we always talked about the
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: weather in Michigan, true, because it was hey, if it
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: doesn't rain tomorrow, you want to do this?
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, or if it doesn't freeze.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: But you're right here, we didn't.
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: You didn't have to worry about the freeze because the
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: freeze started in October and ended in May.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: But your point.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: So, there's something that happened this past week that is
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: actually pretty pretty amazing. The weather people have predicted something
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: for the winter that is a hun percent chance.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about. This this this il Nino, right.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, super and just el nino. It's a super El nine.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: And they went back to the last they're comparing it
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: to an al Nino in eighteen seventy five.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Correct that and and you're right. It's like, no, this
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: is gonna happen.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it Throughout the past months, it's you, I'm from
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: thirty yep to like sixty percent to eighty percent, and
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: then just this week they announced a one hundred percent
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: chance that we are going to witness a super al Nino,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: which for whether people to predict one hundred percent chance
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: is pretty impressive.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of scientific evidence going into this with
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: the currents, the way that you know the cold water
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: on the cold in some cases deep below the ocean,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: how that it sucks up the cold water. Yeah, we're
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: gonna feel it here on the West coast.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: It's supposed to be a super wet season.
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: I'm still skeptical, and John is John is always the skeptic,
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: but it's but I'll be real and say that sometimes
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: our weather says one hundred percent chance of rain, and
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: I get it, like it rained, But was it really needing.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: To say it was one hundred percent chance?
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: I would say it drizzle.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: I would say with what you're talking about was a
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: lot different than how they're predicting this to happen. Yeah,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: They're basing it on a lot of weather patterns, on
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: currents and things like that.
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: But I've seen predictions though, where sixty percent chance of
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: rain and I'm looking out the window it's raining cats
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: and dogs. It's just like, oh yeah, I would call
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: that one hundred percent.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: What time a couple of weeks ago was raining and
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: I said, Alexa, is there going to rain today? No,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: there's no rain in the forecast. I said, well, it's
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: raining here, yeah, And it was silent.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: I will say, though, it's not going to be harmful
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: to prepare, because this is a great warning for us.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: It's pretty much.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: I would say how far up north, I'd say el North,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Ellie County, Ventura, and then maybe some like you know,
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: San Francisco ish kind of stuff. Okay, Bolow is going
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: to be affected by.
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: This, and it moves in San Jose. And she was wondering,
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: okay for she wanted to know details.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: You know what they did say that did Washington, Idaho?
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: In Oregon up there, it's going to be warmer. There's
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: gonna be a little warmer winning it.
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: Will be yeah, but you know, I just got an
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: email from a friend in Idaho twenty.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Five seconds well to the break. That's all.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: I'm warning you.
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: I can't collect my thoughts in twenty five seconds.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: I'll just do it after the break. Yeah.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: But now he's gonna forget though, No, I'll remind him.
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: Okay, Idaho, Friend, Idaho, Idaho friend weather.
• 30:39
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• 30:41
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• 30:44
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• 30:45
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  Speaker 7: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: John and Tiger.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, we are back.
• 31:22
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• 31:25
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• 31:27
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• 31:30
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• 31:33
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• 31:39
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• 31:42
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• 31:44
  Speaker 2: friend of Idaho, Friend of Idaho.
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: Right. And she she's a rose grower. She has about
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: sixteen hundred roses in the ground, all big bushes. And
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: she said they had an extremely mild winner for them
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: and there their roses still are not in bloom because
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: even though it's a mild winter, like June, is there
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: bloom time. So they're all butting up and getting ready
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: to bloom. But she said they're already predicting one hundred
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: degree days. So you go from a mild winter, but
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: it's still cold, right because you've got temperatures below thirty
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: two to one hundred degrees. I don't know about that.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going to really mess things up, right.
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, So I'm wondering how the al Nino is going
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: to affect that area so well, they have milder temperatures too.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: So basically what it was imagine this like movement of
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: water that.
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: La Nina brings water north of us right right, Okay.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: And then we're right there in the line for Al
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Nina that moves like I said, from like San Francisco
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: below to you know, what's what's east of us, Arizona
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: into Texas, Texas, New Mexico. And and what it brings is
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: wall is rain, not always snow. So it doesn't always
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: bring like Brian was saying, it's the ocean temperature, so
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: it's not a matter of it bringing cold air. It's
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: bringing rain through that region, so which is actually kind
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: of almost more harmful to us because rain creates land sides, flooding,
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: things like that where snow it falls on the mountain
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: then slowly nicely and all of that. So what I'm
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: getting at is it's not going to hurt to prepare
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: as you're in this area, get your you know, drainage
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: system figured out and your landscape, make sure that you're
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: you're managing it through the winter provol to prevent any
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: like flooding or pooling or anything like that, you know,
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: and you're getting You're getting the time to prepare it
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: now because this is not going to start until probably
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: for us maybe November, you know, December ish kind of
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: a thing, so you have plenty of time to kind
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: of like start to work on these.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: We talked about how it's good for places in drought,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: but the problem is too much rain too quickly.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: And then and you've got a store, right we we
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: we've done away with a lot of reservoirs and all that.
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: So, right, well, what do we have those huge rain
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: years there's flooding everywhere, right.
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because there's like we're just not.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: In Michigan.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: When it rains, it just goes into the rivers and
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: the lakes and everything else nicely.
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: The lakes rise. Yeah, you know, so your docks get
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: covered with water sometimes. But yeah, I here until it
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: gets out to the ocean here underwater exactly.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: So places like very low, like we're talking about Hooya
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: Pacific Beach, Yeah, they're going to have big issues.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I remember back in the day when they'd be flooding
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: down Mission Boulevard right there, but by the uh the
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: cat and Ran Hotel. You know, the sea wall is
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: right there. People are on canoes going down the street,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: going down Mission Boulevard.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, another long common question.
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: John, Well, this was from a stam said, you know,
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: we've been talking about the discussing the weather in that
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: they enjoyed the rain last night. Yeah. The summer season
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: has started in their province. Oh yeah, in Pakistan, he said,
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: their temperature is around thirty to forty degrees centigrade right now, right.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: And that's very hot. Yeah, it's extremely hot.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: And you know, and I understand people liking the metric
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: system and why people would go to it, but I
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: think fahrenheit is better for temperature, yeah, because there's more
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: degrees and there's more variation, more extreme. Yeah, with centigrade,
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: each degree is bigger, each degree is bigger, and I think,
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: especially with growing plants, those differences make a difference.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: You know, what does make sense that that water freezes
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: at zero?
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that makes sense and boils set one hundred makes
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: perfect sounds.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: You know we're what to twelve and thirty two or
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: whatever it is?
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Ye?
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: No, we're thirty two negative? Yeah, no, or thirty two
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: for zero right.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: And two twelve to boil right?
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: Is it?
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: I thought it was like one hundred and something twelve.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: To twelve, So that's wacky.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: That is wacky.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: But when someone says thirty five degrees something and that's cold, No,
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: that's like nearing one hundred, I think in the fahrenheit scale.
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: He said that there their summer seasonal seedlings are ready
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: for sale right now at their nursery. But in Tune
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: and July they're going to they're going to see heat
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: around forty five degrees centigree.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: That's over one hundred. What is that? One ten?
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: I think it's hot. Because he follows that up with
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: the prayer emoji.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: There's a comedian Nate Bagatzi Nategotty who does a lot
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: of funny spoofs, and one of the things he does
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: is he acts like he's like George Washington and he's
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: talking to people. We're gonna have a way to measure things,
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: and we're gonna say we're gonna use feet while the
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: rest of the world use meters in all this stuff.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: And then they'll be like, well, how long is a mile?
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: Nobody knows.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: Nobody knows how many yards are in a mile.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: You know, like how many feet, but not how many yards?
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Five and eighty right, John, Yeah, fifty.
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: Brnnica says that the rain could start as early as October. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: Wow, we'll see early season with that would be nice.
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: It would be nice. Oh, because we had we had
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: a relatively dry winter, right, I mean we got summer rain, right.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: We were dryer?
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: We are we are average, Yeah, I think we're maybe average.
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: And a lot of people don't realize. Average for San
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: Diego is like six inches a year, right, yeah, and
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: you know other play places get six inches a day.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, exactly.
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: So, Hey, I brought a I brought an orchid in today?
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: Should we how much time do we got?
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: We should take a break here in about a minute.
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: Okay, it's time, right, yeah, okay, I don't know if
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: you want to hold this up, because whenever people I
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: can go hold it to the camp and I guess, okay,
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: let me turn it around. This was when I had
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: bought at the orchid show, and when I came back,
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: it looked like they might have been seeds. I don't know.
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: I thought they were they were little embryos. But anyway,
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: someone gave them to me at the orchid show, the
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: person where I bought this miniature failure and opsis, and
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: she said, plant these, they'll grow. They're egret orchids, and
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: and I showed them to you when I planted them
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: up right, I mean you could barely see them. They
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: weren't microscopic, but certainly what would you call when some
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: thing needs to be magnified magroscopic? You know, like you
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: needed definitely needed a magnifying glass to see him or
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: now look at it, or you needed the magnifying glass.
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: I'm going to take a break on your you took
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: the words right out of my mouth.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Long break too, long break news coming up top of
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: the hour. We're going to take a break from BizTalk
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Radio Facebook Live. Stay with us this is Gardener America. Well,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: guess what, gang, We made it to the second hour,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: the second half, second hour if you're tuned in on
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: biz Talk Radio, second half of the show for Facebook Live,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: and I think we survived the break. I learned a lot.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: I learned more during the breaks when you know, John
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: will pontificate on certain aspects in certain subject matters, and
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: I just I start the second hour going, wow, I'm
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: better for that.
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: I was thinking during the first hour, how Tiger said
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: that the meteorologists were predicting one hundred percent, there's no doubt,
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: and Leonor is following them, and she's got one hundred
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: percent prediction too. She says, great hour number two. I
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: don't know if that means she's looking forward to it
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: or she's already coming and because she knows it's one
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: hundred percent chance, it's going to be great, a great hour.
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: But anyway, just thanks for always being there, Leonar.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Let's do a little recap of the first hour, because
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: you know, as.
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: We were finishing with Yeah.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: You know, we're allowing people to kind of come back on.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: So when you're talking about Super Nino, right this this
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: upcoming winter, we're having an abnormally wet winter, possibly starting
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: in October, working our way through the whole winter and
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: lots of rain.
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: Talked about the weather in Pakistan, talked.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: About the weather in Pakistan.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: We talked about your beautiful new.
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: That's how we finished was and we didn't quite have
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: a finish there. But we were talking about how those
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: little seeds or whatever they were. It just looked like
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: there was a zero chance of those things growing. But
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: the woman who who gave them to me was so
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: knowledgeable about all these miniature Japanese orchids that I just
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: trusted here and now look at look at them. Yeah
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: they're growing well.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you just have them in moss.
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, nothing else. I've been thinking of adding a liquid fertilizer.
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: I think they need something. But yeah, I'm super impressed
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: and super excited. Not as excited as I am right
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: now thinking about going to the plume you cutting sale,
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: And I was gonna ask you, Tiger, that's room one
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: oh one Belbo Park.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Correct?
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, does anything ever happen outside of room one oh
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: one in Belbo Park? That seems to be the room?
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: Nothing of note, okay ever happens?
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: Nothing of note ever happens I love it, not Balboa Park.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: And then by the way, there's a new rose coming
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: out next year that's gonna be called Belboa Park.
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: Really yeah, oh wow.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: I can't tell you anything about it, anything about it.
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: It might be one that I produced.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: The San Diego ro Society took four of my roses
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: to Auto and Sons. Where are they more park? They're
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: up in that area, right, I'm not sure, But in
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: Auto and Sons has been growing and propagating, and we're
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: gonna look at the blooms and see what's what's the
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: most impressive for introducing. But they want to introduced in
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: baptized two roses and they want Balboa Park in America's Finest.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: Okay, So America's finance refers to Our Diego, our city's
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: slogan that was you would call that.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: That was Pete Wilson. And you know what it was
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: called before that City in Motion and it was on motion,
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: City in motion, and it was on like some of
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: the public, not stop signs, but they would put little
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: signs up around town San Diego City in Motion with
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: like an arrow pointing. And I think Pete Wilson came
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: up with America's Finest City.
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: I have to say it was a huge improvement from
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: City in Motion.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: City in Motion, Well, that was because goes back to
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: the days of San Diego and they were growing and
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: this was like a hot bit of hot spot back
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: when you were freezing in Michigan and never heard of
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: San Diego.
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: America's Finest would make me want to move here, though,
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: City in Motion is I don't know, like, would you
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: ever want to move to a city of Industry?
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Oh no, they've talked about all yeah, that's a terrible
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: commerce torrents. But in the City of Industry and usually
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: like it's right when you drive through l it's right
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: off the freeway, like there's a house like right there,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: and they're kind of there's dark from all the exhaust
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: and stuff.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: So every day.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: But we do love City of Industry. We love everybody
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: up there listening.
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: We love Welcome to the show.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: You know, it has nothing to do with it. It's
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: just the name that's a.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Little you know.
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: Carl has a question Tiger. She says, do you have
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: any suggestions on removing grassy weeds that are growing right
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: smack dab in the middle of uh roses in the ground.
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: Of roses in the grassy weeds.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there are some herbicides that are effective on you
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: with a Yeah, there are some herbicides that are effective
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: on grasses in plants.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: I've had that problem alone.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: Has I'll find the exact name on it for you
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: for a minute, But it's because it kind of goes
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: back to select selective herbicides. So right when you when
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: you are going to buy, there's there's two styles. One
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: is a non selective herbicide, which is basically kills anything
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: it touches, and then another is selective. And it has
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: to do with the cells, right John, on how they're
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: structured in the plant, whether they can like kill one
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: or the.
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: Other, right, Yeah, And usually they are selective for broadleaf
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: weeds or grassy weeds. So monicots, like Brian will point
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: out all the time monicots versus die cuts, right.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: And who and who comes up to the winner? Who
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: comes out the winner.
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: Depends what you're spraying with. But if you take a
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: grass grassy weed, I remember there used to be one
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: that Monterey Chemical had called grass Getter. Yeah, we talked
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: about and there were some ready to use grass sprays too.
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: You don't want to use a non selective herbicide and
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: kill everything.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, this is funny. She mentioned, is that because
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: this past year I've had more grassy weeds everywhere than
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: I can remember, in all the pots everywhere, and it's like, oh,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: come on, really, I just go in there and pull
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: them out. Of course they're not out in the right.
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: I've got to tell you. I tried using the pre emergent,
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: just scattering it over the pots and the pots I've
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: used it and have no weeds whatsoever.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: Really.
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so you said pre in six months. We got
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: a minor complaint here from Tanya, not a huge one.
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: So we're back so fast. She barely had time to
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: get her coffee made.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: That's what we're getting. We're getting too quick for her.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: Pretty slow. Okay, Carla, I did just post. I'm actually
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: going to try to post from our other Facebook also. So,
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: the fertile in products is called over the Top and
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: it is a herbicide that treats perennial and annual grasses
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: in shrub, perennial, annual and vegetable beds. So and it
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: says you can actually spray the plants with with this
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: product because it correct you would recommend though that you
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: try to be pretty you know, you try to be
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: pretty specific because a lot of times this product will
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: also yellow some plants if you apply, so.
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: You don't want to purposely spray spray it on the plants.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're saying would be very judicious.
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, make sure what was the what was the
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: name of it again.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: Tiger over the Top by Fertilone.
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, are you putting a link?
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: You're putting a link to it right now, Okay, so
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: that way they can find more information out. But you
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: know that is something true because and then also I
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: don't know if they make it anymore. I think we've
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: talked about this before, but there used to be a
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: product called Killer, which was a herbicide for grasses in
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: ice plant because again kind of.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: So hard to get into the ice plant. Yeeah sure.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: And so yeah, if you do a little bit of research,
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: there are products out there that can be really effective
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: on some of these problematic plants in your garden without
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: you having to get in there and hand pull and
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: all that. And as John mentioned, you know, the premersion.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: A lot of growers use a lot of these products
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: because they have you know, ten thousand and five gallon shrubs.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: You know, they can't go through and hand pull each one,
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: so they'll either prote a product into the soil or
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: spray their crop with it to kind of be more
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: effective and weed prevention or weed killing.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: I don't think a lot of people are aware of
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: the fact that they also use growth hormones to keep
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: plants from growing. And the reason is they don't want
• 48:32
  Speaker 6: them to get too big on the shelf in the
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: retailer store. So when you take them home and you
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: plant them, they they look good, but they just sit
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: there and they don't grow at all until that growth
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: hormone wears the way, right.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: And John's talked about this before, and it's because they
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: try to fit them on these shelves, right, And the
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: more you can more shelves you can put into a truck,
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: means the more plants, right, So it's best to have
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: a two foot tall plant.
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: You know, that's it?
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we've talked about how breeding goes that way, just
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: so that the plants will never get.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: To marketing and stocking stock their shelves.
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but I've had annuals that I go through and
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: and a plant in the ground and they just sit
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: there and I'm just wondering, what am I doing wrong?
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: Why aren't they growing? Yeah, you know until I went
• 49:25
  Speaker 6: to work for a propagator and realize that's what they're doing.
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: And how long do like those growth hormones last?
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: They can last for six to six weeks to two months.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Can you can you kind of act it anyway when
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: you take it home?
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: No?
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: So, but they put it on like let's say, let's
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: say there was a small perennial right, okay in a
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: four inch pot, Okay, and I have to take a break.
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: We'll say something, don't just point at a paper, okay.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: To be rude. Okay, Yes, we have to take a
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: break back after these messages on piss Talk Radio. We're
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: back from the break obviously because you can hear us
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: and see us hopefully in his guard in America to
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: refresher memory. I'm Brian Maine, Tiger Palafox, John Begnesca. We
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: appreciate you tuning in. Some people are with us from
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: the get go to the very end. There's perusing the
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Facebook feedstop by, they get what they need, take a
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: drink of water. A couple of bits of advice and
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: off they go. John, all right, you interrupted Tiger going
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: into the bro is rude by pointing, Now I under
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: you know. I kind of appreciate it when you try
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: not to be rude, because I'm usually saying, all right, John,
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: that's it. We got to take a break.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: I was just kind of doing that to Tiger.
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: So the but but one thing I wanted to mention
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: Carl is asking if that product was safe for roses.
• 51:29
  Speaker 6: And and that's a good point because all those products
• 51:33
  Speaker 6: will have a list of plants that they are safe
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: or not safe for. It'll say don't spray on. And
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: so even though we're telling you it's say for roses,
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: I would still check the label before you buy it,
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: or if you're ordering online, check the label before you
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: spray it.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: And what I was asking for about before the break
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: was we were talking about growth regulator right on plants.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: And you say they last for like six to eight weeks.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: So a grower that has like a little four inch
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: perennial will put it.
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: On annuals is mainly what they use to.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: Okay, but they'll put it on, but it'll be in
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: the in the in the grower for another week or two,
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: and so then when you get it home, it's going
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: to last for maybe another rice.
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: Is that what it is?
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Okah, and you know, people probably have no idea
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: that that's what's happening.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Hachem, it's not. It's not doing anything.
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: Well you know, well Chanya, who seems to be, you know,
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: a super gardener and grows a lot of things, said
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: that that maybe that's why some plants don't take off
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: for a long time. Yeah, once you put them you know, well,
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: you we've been conditioned to think because they never use
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: growth hormones as the root system just has to get
• 52:51
  Speaker 6: settled and once the roots are growing, then the plant
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: takes off.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: But it could be the.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Root system is already established in many cases.
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: Well yeah, it's not into the surrounding song yet, but
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: why wouldn't it continue growing? Yeah, with the roots that
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: are already there.
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: I will say it's kind of funny though, too, because
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: for people that kind of know.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: What to recognize.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: After a growth hormone has been used on the plant,
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: it looks compact, it looks great, small tight leaves, but
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: as it's wearing off, the leaves get larger. So you
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: have these like weird shaped leaves on the plant and
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: is even starting to it started to express itself naturally.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: And sometimes they'll even get a little like gangly strength looks.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Not even growth.
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: Yes, it's not even.
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't come out all even, you know, like
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: a plant would naturally. It comes out like, oh, this
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: part had a little bit more and this part.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Had a little bit less, exactly.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So you know, be prepared for that, especially, I
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: think with petunias, you know, because we've been we've been
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: grown with these like supertunias nowadays and all this stuff.
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: And patience is another one.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: They use it and they look beautiful in the garden center,
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: but then when they grow they're kind of like that
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: looks weird.
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I have that experience with a couple. I
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: just put it up. I put in a couple. Uh uh.
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: There's a bunch of breeding now in that starry night
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: range which are really cool. But they look much cooler
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: in a forrange pot than they do in the.
• 54:17
  Speaker 9: Ground said story night, Uh, Bengo THEO man go exactly
• 54:24
  Speaker 9: that who THEO van Go? Vincent Vincent we're talking about
• 54:30
  Speaker 9: Vincent van Go with the story Knight. The picture that's
• 54:33
  Speaker 9: a yes, Vincent Bango. Why am I thinking the I
• 54:36
  Speaker 9: don't know who is theo Bango Vincent No, Vincent van
• 54:43
  Speaker 9: Goes the painter, Theosis brother. I was thinking Storry Storry night.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry. Yeah, no, I'm thinking the actual painting.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I.
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: Thought you would think of the song. That's where my.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Mind talking was all over. That took you all to
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: catch up.
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: It's because John memorizes stuff, so he has a lot
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: to recall. But I'm just more simple. It goes straight
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: to the data.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: Uh. Tanya said Tiger that her lemon tree had so
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: many flowers this year, and lots of tiny custers of
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: green lemons. She got really excited. You know, it's growing
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: in a pot, and she just went out to check
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: on him and everyone is gone.
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: Everyone though, But I mean she's wondering everyone none of
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: them will turn into lemons.
• 55:31
  Speaker 6: Nope, she's guessing rats. Oh either that or that's what
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: she said when she went to look at it.
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, rats, you think I don't think rats. Rats wait
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: till they're actual fruit. They don't come along so early.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: But I think maybe squirrels are birds.
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: I don't know about birds, but squirrels for sure. And rabbits.
• 55:52
  Speaker 6: I've got this huge rabbit at my house right now,
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: just huge. Really, you've seen him obviously, yes, not only that.
• 56:01
  Speaker 6: Toad insult to injury. After chewing, you know, they develop
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: a taste for rose leaves. So I'm going to go
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: eat all the new leaves and all John's roses. And
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: that's bad enough, but toad insult to injury. You got
• 56:16
  Speaker 6: to poop on the patio, I know, but it's like
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: showing you like you Yeah, I don't care what.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is when I think of your yard.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: I I don't have any guns, but I'm thinking of
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: asking my son, can I just borrow your rifle first.
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: People don't realize how voracious of eaters they are because
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: I'll go into people's lawns and they're like, oh, I'm
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: having trouble with my grass, like it's just not growing.
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: It just sits there like and it's yellowing and all this,
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, you got rabbits, and like I've
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: seen one. I'm like that's all it takes. I'm like,
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: look at all these droppings, look at all like people say,
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: I've got gophers. You might have one go fer? Yeah, well,
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: but no, even if you only have one, but you
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: can do dance has a lot of damn.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: You know, people speaking are cute little bunny rabbits. You
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: ever seen rabbits fight? They're vicious rabbits.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: Are there's a book about that, is there really? Yeah?
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: And it's called Watershipped Down?
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he read the show notes.
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: Did you see the cartoon the movie Watership Down? It's like,
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: you don't want to take your kids to that because
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: it's pretty violent and I mean there's blood and everything
• 57:33
  Speaker 6: in it. Everything for rabbits. But it does have one
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: of my favorite art Garfunkles songs is the theme song
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: for the movie Bright Eyes.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: Do you remember that?
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's where they came from. It was that
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: on the album Art for art's sake.
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: I don't know that you.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: Bring them around and show full circle.
• 57:51
  Speaker 6: To keep his off topic, Tanya says, they do have
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: lots of birds tiger to go along with what you're saying. Yeah,
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: I mean it would be bigger birds like crows crows.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, But like I said, to keep us off topic,
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: but it does associated with garden. I was at a
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: house this week and they have a chicken coop and
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: they naturally had some chicks that you know, came from
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: their their chickens. They have a rooster and everything, and
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: they were just kind of letting them naturally mix in.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: And I was like there, and I was like, the
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: chickens aren't usually very nice to the chicks, you know
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: what I mean, Like they're kind of sometimes like.
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: The other ones.
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I saw one getting like picked at, and
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, you know, and we they had
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: three when I first showed up at eight in the morning.
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: By ten in the morning, there were two.
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: Sad, like there's terrible chickens are savages.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: I like the fact how you described they had chicken
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: they had a rooster.
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's how you have chicks, right. Some people
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: like don't realize that. Some people just think that the
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: hen lay eggs and then they turn into chickens.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: But they have to fertilize. You.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: You have to have big Daddy there. All right, we're
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: gonna take a break, gonna take hey, two more segments
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: after this. The next segment is one of the longer ones,
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: which I how excites John. So stay with us. It's
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: guard in American Brian Main and John Bagnascar attack at
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: Powa Fox messages were then your way in Bistok, creating.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: Guard American were cruising along.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: If you're watching us or this live, it is the weekend,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: but we'll end up someplace else after. This could be Alexa,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: could be Spotify, could be Google Streaming Digital.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 6: There we are, John Branca says. She sounds like I
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: have a jack rabbit. She said, they think so, they're big.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 6: She said, yeah, they get huge and they're really fast.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: Can you imagine if you had a jackalope, Tanya says,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 6: or the easter bunny.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: He'd be a little late, wouldn't he.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And plus he wouldn't go after the green ones.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 6: He likes the colored ones.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: True, true, but yeah, probably a jack rabbit.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: You know what I had trouble with with my lemon
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: is my own gardening neglect. I was reading Tanya's comment,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: but I have that lemon try by the pool, and
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: it's in a good area and it's got lots of
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: lemons on it. But I left way too many lemons,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: and now like the foliage has kind.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: Of like, yeah, suffered because of it.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: So I went out and picked a bunch of lemons
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: the other day, just to try to get some of
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: that foliage to recover, because I was like, I don't
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: need all these lemons, but I just neglected to go
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: and pull the lemons as I should have.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: Kind of a thing.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: That's a good point. How many lemons does one person need?
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: Right? If you don't have a juicer, you can't.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: And why don't you think if you've been gardening for
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: over fifty years, you would not plant three lemon trees
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: in your It's like, why.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: Did I do that? That's almost borderline commercial?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 6: It makes no sense.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: Did you still need soil?
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I've got a bag. I brought it for you. Yeah, okay, okay.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: Well that's uh, that's a workout carrying that bag. That's
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: that's one of the over the shoulders, right, that bag.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: Is what is it?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Twenty?
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: I don't know which one? Is it?
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: The ocean for it's a.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 6: Forest? Is not heavy?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: That okay?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 6: That could be your brother. It's pretty light.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Reference to the Hollies, Yeah heavy, No reference to the
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: Hollies sang that song? I know, but what was uh
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: you're thinking biblical? No, I'm thinking about the the Home
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: for uh orphan children. That's where that saying came from,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: it's not heavy.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: He's my brother talking about heavy burden.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about the How does that correspond to
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: the fact that he's not heavy he's my brother.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 6: Well, the story behind it is that there there was
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 6: a priest running this home for our friend children, right
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 6: and like in the winter, this kid walks up and
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 6: he's curing his younger brother, and the priest says, let
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 6: me help you with that. He's heavy and that the
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 6: kid says, no, he's not heavy, he's my brother. That's
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: where they came from.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Wow, you know all I can say, John, what that's heavy?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: Anyway?
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: Back to the ocean course, okay, and not being heavy,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: I will say, And I feel bad bringing this up.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: Number one.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: We talked earlier in the show about how sales Memorial
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: Day weekend we should be focused on just hanging out
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: with family and friends and all that. Number two we
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: brought up ocean for us and a potting soil which
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: is quality potting soil, and I think we retail it
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: for like, I don't know, twenty twenty five dollars a
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: bag or something like that. Now, I don't know, it's
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: just what you're cheaper than. Well, I don't know, so
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: I could be wrong. Yeah, but it's not cheap. It's
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: not che but you're cheaper than I know some other
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: places are.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 6: Yes, I wish today's hard wearing the big big bags
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 6: worth thirty five dollars, I believe. Yeah, But anyway, the
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: heavy soil is Happy Frog because that's a two cubic
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 6: foot bag in the ocean forest is one and a half.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: But what I was going to get at is this weekend.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: And you'll appreciate this, John, because you like this product,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: the bark that's stained those colors.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: It is two dollars a bag at our you know
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: place that shall not be named, and they're selling Miracle
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: grow potting soil for two dollars a bag.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: I would never use miracle personally, never use Miracle grow
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: potting soil because it holds too much water and I
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 6: kill everything in it.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: But it can't be good at two dollars a bag
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: like that's gotta.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: Be just like Brian always says, you get what you
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 6: pay for.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: But doesn't miracle grow potting soil also.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 6: It's good for people who don't water ever.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: But doesn't it do doesn't it give abnormal growth to
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: certain plants, and.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 6: Miracle Grow does grow right. The fertilizer.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: Different potting. Some like John saying they are like advertises
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: retaining moist or something, have fertilizer.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: So it's not good for draining bad drainage. What you're saying,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: I mean it holds water.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 6: For Yeah, too much water for somebody who overwaters like
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 6: I do. And I don't want people to think that
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 6: we're I'm saying, don't use Miracle Grow in general.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Just know how to use it.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 6: If you want green plants right away, use Miracle Grow.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 6: It's just like if you want a lot of energy,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 6: take a red Bull okay, cocaine, cocaine or red Bull.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: I used to use that analogy in my talks that
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: I was like, you know, organic gardening is like being
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: a healthy person. You watch what you eat, you eat
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: your vegetables, you have a balanced diet. I go, miracle
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: gardening is like crack.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 6: And then somebody said, you mean red bull.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: So yeah, anyways, potting soils. Yeah, so I have that
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: back for you. I brought it like two weeks ago,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: a week ago.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I forgot to.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: Imagine, bring your money this time. I had it last time. Yeah, Okay,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: I got money in my.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 6: Bucket, guys. Stacey says that she has a New Zealand lemon,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 6: which I'm not sure what a New Zealand lemon is.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 6: I wonder if she means an Australian line. Well, there
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 6: is an Australian line, but I've never heard of a
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 6: New Zealand lemon. But anyway, she says it's got green
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 6: branches but dry yellow leaves, and she hasn't watered it
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 6: in two weeks and will it be okay and any
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 6: advice on saving it? Well, first of all, is it
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 6: in a pot or in the ground. If it's in
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: a pot in the ground two weeks, it should have
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 6: been okay for two weeks, right, I.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: Meanse fiss trees are actually pretty tough.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and they go every ten to fourteen days. However,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 6: for it was in a pot for two weeks without water,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 6: that's a different thing. And if the stems are still green,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 6: it should relief out. But you do need to soak
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 6: a pot. And because the soil was so dry, the
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 6: water's just not going to penetrate the root ball. It's
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 6: going to go around the sides and come out, So
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 6: you might have to water several times. Within you know,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 6: an hour or two hours, and let it soak up
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: the water.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: And then have a balance of like not overwatering after this,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: because that's the thing people do, is they like soak
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: it and then then now they begin to overwater it,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: and that's no way. But I will say I I
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: think I've talked about this before. The lime tree that
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: I have out by my pool, I actually that should
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: be dead on so many level.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: I watered it.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: No, I watered it with an herbicide one time. Oh no, yeah,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: like on accident. I watered it with an herbicide. The
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: thing was like on the verge of death. It is
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: thriving right now, built up a resistance. Yeah, it's it's
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: a tough plan.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 6: Well, some of the the herbicides are growth hormones. Oh
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 6: really yeah, like two four D. It makes weeds grow
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 6: themselves to death.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: Really yeah really really, So.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: If you used to really dilute form of it.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: It actually would be benefit.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well not about beneficial, but would certainly make them
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 6: grow fast.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: They grow themselves to death.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah you like that description.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: Ye like to hearing about that it could row yourself
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: to death.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 6: I don't even know if they do.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: They still have two for d It sounds like one
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: of those things that definitely was taken.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: Off the shelf.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 6: Well, that used to be the the most common herbicide
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  Speaker 6: was two four D.
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  Speaker 4: So how would it so?
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: So if you put it on a weed?
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, would you see this like all the growth?
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 6: And then you would see all this distorted growth like dandelions.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 6: And that was the main thing it was used for
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: in the Midwest. It was a big product in Scot's
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 6: H plus two fertilizer easy and miracle or not miracle row.
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  Speaker 6: But uh, Ortho what do they call it? Weed? Be gone?
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: Back then everything was begone. It was something begonde, but
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: begune we beco.
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  Speaker 3: Still.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, is there even Ortho anymore?
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 6: Well, Ortho was bought out by Chevron or owned by
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 6: Chevron to begin with, And now do they use the
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: Chevron label or is it still or I.
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  Speaker 4: Think it is Orthos still? Okay, So I think it's
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: Ortho Scot's. I know that they're part of the whole.
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  Speaker 2: Is it just mere when I think of Ortho and
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: immediately I think chemical Back in the day, I mean.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: They were the big producer of a lot of herbicides, pasticides,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: all that stuff. But now I think Bear has more
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: taken over the market. It's that in my head, that
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: seems more of a popular product. But I could be
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: wrong too. Who bought Beayar was recently bay Santo.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 6: They bought Bear or bear Butt, one of the two
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 6: ron Santo from But they bought No, they want to
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 6: have bought Monsanto. Didn't they buy roundup from Monsanto?
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: It's something they did. They bought a product.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 6: It's corporate finance.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: When I think of mon Santo at Disneyland, I think
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: of that I looking down like you're in a microscope.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 6: Was that Monsanto? Yes, I like to have a fantastic voyage.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 6: They don't have that anymore do I don't know.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: What it was called, but but yeah, they shrunk you shrink, Yeah,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: you shrinked it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, like the shrank word. You shrank down, shrunk, shrunk,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 6: No shrink, shrunk, shrank, shrink, shrunk shrunk.
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  Speaker 2: I saw my no shrink. I saw my shrink yesterday. Okay,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: we're gonna take a break. One more segment coming up,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: So whatever's going on?
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: This is it the epilog? Next after that came Guard
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  Speaker 3: in America taking a break here. This talk made.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: Tell you what, there's so much to talk about it
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: so little time. That's why we'll do it again next week.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 6: Ay Tanya has a warning for tigers guard to America. Yes,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 6: the warning is yeah, Tiger Tanya just learned a year
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 6: ago how danger it is to get dangerous it is
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 6: to get lime juice in your eyes. Oh really, Yeah,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 6: so she said, be careful making those mohidos.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, definitely.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 6: And then John in Newport Beach says, speaking of soils
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 6: here in Newport Beach, the city provides twenty pallets of
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  Speaker 6: free compost really real certified composts in four locations twice
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 6: a month. It's a reward for following the rules about
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 6: green recycling bins. I guess, so talk to your city
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 6: fathers to see if they do the same. You know,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 6: I'm kind of wondering now about now that they're telling
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 6: you to put all the uh the meat products. Yeah,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 6: like food scraps, food scraps into the compost. I guess
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 6: it's okay.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: There's the there's the name soilent green meaning.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 6: I was thinking the same thing. Well, I was saying that, but.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: And that goes back to what the late sixties, early
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: seventies when that moved Charlton Heston.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 6: Right, yeah, but you know what it is, Andy Edward G. Robinson, Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 6: So it's important to know the type of composts that
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 6: you're getting. And I'm glad John's getting really good quality composts.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 6: But president of the now President of the California Rose Society,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 6: got that free compost last year. Put it around his roses,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 6: killed half of them and the other half didn't grow
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 6: at all during the year, and it was from that compost. Yeah,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 6: so some of it is if it's not composted enough,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 6: it'll continue to compost while you put it around your plants.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 6: And when it breaks well, yeah, when it breaks down,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 6: it's heating up. Right, there's a lot of heat involved
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 6: in decomposition.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: Carla mentioned something is eating the peels off my myer limit.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: Rats usually the peels, just the peel.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it would be rats, or if they're just little
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 6: pieces snails, Oh yeah, snails and slugs.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 6: Rats usually go through the peel, right, they elait the
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: peel and.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: Then yeah, and then they'll get into the middle of
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: it and they never eat the whole thing. No, I've
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: got a ton of oranges that are half eating out there.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: You mused to have rats everywhere, right, They say, you
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: walk outside, you're probably within six feet of a rat.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it makes sense. I live on a canyon.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: I believe that for sure. Yeah, so yeah, John doesn't
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: believe that. John doesn't believe thinking.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 6: I don't have that many rats that you can see,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 6: that I can see, but I definitely have plenty of
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 6: squirrels six feet though.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 5: I mean, there's a rat in here.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: Well, John, you're a rat.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: Who's that? Jimmy Cagney? You're a dirty rat?
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 6: That was Cagney, Right, And what's the difference between a
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 6: rat and a dirty rat? Well, I'll tell you the difference.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: Rats around here not dirty clean rats in New York
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: dirty sewer round Those are dirty rats.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 6: A sewer rat, Yep, I've.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: Seen they are dirty.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they are dirty.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: They're not.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: And then you know they probably are within three feet
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: in New York when you walk outside.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Tany you wanted to let you know, Brian that
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 6: the ride was called Adventures through Innerspace by Monsanto.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: You know what word for word? She is, so right, Yeah,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: that is it. But that was a.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 6: Play on the movie rat cal Welch's movie Fantastic Voyage
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  Speaker 6: nineteen sixty six.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, have you seen that movie? No?
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: You know what, I think it holds up a little
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: bit today.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: Kind of the.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: Plot is there's.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: A famous guy, political figure who's got a disease or
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: something and they can't treat it.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 6: So they get there's a brain clot.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, right, they put them in a submarine and these
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: are very brilliant people and they shrink the sub down
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: and they inject it into the body and they go
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: to the brain.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: Oh, kind of like the cartoon like Miss Magoo classroom
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: and they have like a magic school bus or something
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: exactly right, exactly you took and they go into the body.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's red corps puscles there.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 6: They get into the lungs and Brian, now do you
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 6: see why it's important to memorize, Oh, the.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: Magic school Bus.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: Is that like Clifford the Giant Dog? And what was
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: that dog? It's just like Clifford the Big Red Dog,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: Big Red Dog.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is how much time do you guys?
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: Do you ever watch? Was it Thomas the Train? Did
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: know who the two major narrators were for that show?
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: It was that old guy that did comedy George car
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: George and Ringo Starr.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: Real, yep, he was the second one that did that.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: Narrated Thomas the Train.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 6: I've never heard of Thomas the Train.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: I watched it, used to watch it with Eric.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 6: Really yeah, yeah, all right, yeah?
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: You know what it would do you good to spend
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: an afternoon binge watching Thomas the Train. Do your world
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: of good.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: John and Bonnie and Livingston think that the Meyer lemon
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: peels might be squirrels on theirs. They have some on
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: theirs birds figured mine was ninety degrees.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: We don't.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 6: Bronica Brian says, it sounds like we all need a
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 6: movie night.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: I know we do.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: I put up a new system sound system in our
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: house and it sounds good. I'm looking for any excuse
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: to watch something with good sound.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 6: Tanya said, oh dear, I got them off subject that's
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 6: never happened. Yes, And don't worry, Tanya, It's not hard
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 6: to do. It's like I liking it this way. You're
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 6: not talking to somebody.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: They're kind of half paying attention to you, and they say, oh,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: look a butterfly.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, what it's like, oh a squirrel?
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: Oh look over there.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 6: We have about about a minute, guys, till the next segment.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: Which is next week. What Yeah, the next segment is
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: next week.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 6: That's a whole a whole new topic. It's a whole
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 6: new quote of the week, and.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: We all new newsletter pictures.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: Did you see I looked at the newsletter. I said, boy,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: new computer. You could just tell it just.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: You know what it's like.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: He's driving a Ferrari now fresh and alive.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: I do enjoy when I see it pop up on a.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 6: Lot of times when I write the newsletter. Not only
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 6: do I think of our listeners and what they might
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 6: be interested in, but I think to you, guys, yeah,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 6: I wonder what Brian would think of this. I wonder
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 6: what and.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: Good job, by the way, you know what I know
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: when I do certain things, you can give you enough
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: paths on the bag. I like a little some feedback
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: now and then is good. And I would wouldn't you
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: say this newsletter is more than adequate.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: I'd say it was above average.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: Above average, more than adequate.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 6: Now, Dana said, you guys watched Smoky in the band.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: We did, We went, we took a blast in the
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: past nineteen seventy seven.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and so Veronica says, cool movie night at Brian's.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: Sure, come on over. We got the sound system. Hey,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: I think we should put the wraps on this show.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being there BIS Talk Radio.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: We appreciate you. We'll be definite next week, Stephanie. Tiger's
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: got a great audio blind up for you to send
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: it to the network. So we'll do it again next week.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: Beau John said, have yourself a great Memorial Day weekend,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: be safe, have a safe week, and we'll do it
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: again next week. Right here from Tiger's poolhouse in San Diego,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: this is gardener.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: A man can take it to