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Marathon Mentality: Born To Go The Distance · Do Hard Things™ with Siegfried Tiegs

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back everybody to another episode of the Do-Hard Things podcast.
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Speaker 1: I'm JT Xiah having studio with me.
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Speaker 1: The amazing, wonderful make everyone smile Angie Petran.
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Speaker 1: How are you doing this morning?
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Speaker 1: Angie, doing great.
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Speaker 1: It's Monday it is another Monday, December 4th 2023.
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Speaker 1: How have you been?
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Speaker 1: How's school going for you?
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Speaker 1: It's almost over.
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Speaker 1: It's almost over.
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Speaker 1: I'll be home next week.
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Speaker 1: I'm so excited.
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Speaker 1: It's one more week.
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Speaker 1: It's awesome.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: I heard you've been getting some good runs in out on the East Coast.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, man.
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Speaker 2: I looked at the map Saturday and I was like, where have I not run?
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Speaker 2: Where do I want to run?
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Speaker 2: I'm like I need the beach.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, wait a minute, how far is Delaware from here?
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Speaker 2: I'm like, why would I ever go vacation in Delaware?
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Speaker 2: I don't think I'm ever going to go to Delaware.
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Speaker 2: Let me go to Delaware today.
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Speaker 2: So I looked it up, it was two hours away.
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Speaker 2: Went to Roe Hoboth Beach and it's so funny because I went out there right and I went to the.
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Speaker 2: I found a boardwalk Cool and I saw these people dressed as like Santas and elves and stuff and I'm like what is going on?
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Speaker 2: And they were like, oh, it's the Santa crawl for charity, blah, blah, blah.
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Speaker 2: So all these people were like running around.
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Speaker 2: And then I see people walking down the boardwalk with beautiful medals, wearing running shirts and apparently earlier in the day there was a marathon and half marathon that, had I known about, I could have run it.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I did, I did, but I got there in time.
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Speaker 2: The fog was coming.
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Speaker 2: I've never been to a beach where it was foggy.
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm from the Gulf, not the like the other side, and so the fog was rolling in and I ran, I got my, I got a 5k in there, ran most of it on the beach and then went and ran up on the boardwalk when it started getting a little bit too foggy for my.
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Speaker 2: Well, I couldn't see somebody, like you know, in front of me, but it was amazing, like it was beautiful.
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Speaker 2: Just the sound of the beach, just it reinvigorated my heart and soul.
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Speaker 2: So it was awesome, so.
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Speaker 1: Delaware, delaware I don't think of like man.
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Speaker 1: I need to go to the beaches of Delaware.
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Speaker 1: It's like one of the surprising places right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's so much, so rich in history.
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Speaker 2: Like I was talking to Rudy the whole way there I was like babe, babe, we got to come back and visit.
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Speaker 2: Like we never had Delaware on the map, but there's so much out here that we need to come back and see.
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Speaker 2: So, yeah, it was really cool.
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Speaker 1: I love it when you have like one of those places we were talking like over the weekend like yeah, like do the highest point in every state.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I remember going through Kansas like I just got to check this one off the list because I'm like you, you're trying to do a 5k in every state.
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Speaker 1: So there's like these states where you think of like I just got to get this one off the list, right, so you get this one knocked out and not thinking much about it.
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Speaker 1: And then you get there and you're like holy shit, that was amazing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was, it was, and the fog rolled in so I couldn't even leave.
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Speaker 2: I was planning on driving back that night, and so I ended up getting a hotel room on the beach, and so even though I couldn't see the beach.
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Speaker 2: I could hear the beach and smell the beach.
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Speaker 2: And when I first got up in the morning the fog had led up and it was just I got to go out and get sea glass and you know, just yeah, it was a great, great Saturday.
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Speaker 2: Sunday it was great, great weekend Meaches of Delaware.
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Speaker 1: That's awesome, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a similar experience this weekend and the topic of like not thinking much of something and then being blown away Like I did the Castlewood eight hour race.
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Speaker 1: It's the country's third largest adventure race in the country and they always give you the maps the night before and it was like all urban, like it was all going to be like in the city and city parks.
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Speaker 1: I'm like you're usually tromping around in the woods and I'm like, oh, come on, I got to ride my mountain bike like through the city.
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Speaker 1: It turned out to be the funnest race yet because it took us in parts of the city that were we would ride our bikes to various parks and then you get to the park and the parks were just beautiful.
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Speaker 1: I've lived in West St Louis County for years, but they took us to parks that I had never been to and there was just a lot of like arts and sculptures and I don't know it.
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Speaker 1: Just it was one of those things that it kind of to your point, like I went into it kind of hesitant and came out like man, this is amazing.
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Speaker 1: So that's what we do this week.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a detailed race report, separate podcast, on it but it was a lot of fun.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna be.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna post a video on my TikTok for anyone that wants to see it.
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Speaker 2: It'll be a short video, so go follow me on TikTok, eat, run, smile or Angie Batran Sweet.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, go follow Angie, that's right.
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Speaker 1: All right, so in this episode we're gonna talk about the heart of endurance.
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Speaker 1: I'm covering, like, the mental strategies that make us unstoppable in the face of long distance challenges.
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Speaker 1: Humans were biologically wired to be endurance athletes and we have.
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Speaker 1: We have the wiring for mental and physical endurance.
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Speaker 1: So we kind of wanna talk about the science of that and maybe give you some strategies to kind of help tap into that.
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Speaker 1: And I think that there's a great correlation with participating in these endurance types events, whether it be your first 5K or training for a marathon and your day to day life, that level of grit and discipline, something that can be kind of trained and honed into.
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Speaker 1: So all right let's see here All right, hang on.
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Speaker 2: I'm losing my notes here, I'm losing my mind.
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Speaker 1: This is early, oh no oh no, I've lost my mindset.
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Speaker 1: I've lost my mind.
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Speaker 1: I lost my place here.
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Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm clicking on a couple of tabs and I've lost it Monday.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Welcome to Monday.
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Speaker 2: All the tabs are open.
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, all the tabs are open.
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Speaker 2: That's how my brain operates.
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Speaker 2: All the tabs are open.
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Speaker 2: Well, what?
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Speaker 1: I was going to say, or what I was going to loo to, is that humans are wired naturally wired for endurance and the there's a great book called Born to Run.
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Speaker 1: If you haven't read it, you need to go read it.
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Speaker 1: It's a great book, even if you're not really into running.
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Speaker 1: It's a great story about the history of humans and the bottom line is basically there's a I'm going to butcher this a little bit, but down in Mexico there's a indigenous tribe of people that are natural endurance runners, or some of the best endurance runners in the world, and they basically, by studying them, they determined that you know, these people have been thriving down there and they still hold these races, these endurance races, and the whole crux of the book is kind of like the the origin of humans and endurance sports, and a couple of highlights are that you know, cheetahs are the fastest land animal in the world, but humans can leave them in the dust and we can do this through the long run.
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Speaker 1: We actually are the most.
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Speaker 1: Humans have the most endurance of all of the animals in the animal kingdom and so we can outrun wolves, cheetahs, even horses.
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Speaker 1: We're not very good sprinters, but we are very good hunters and we have the endurance that enables us to pursue and hunt these animals over the long haul, and really kind of the crux of the born to run book it kind of talks about that is like we can outlast the animals.
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Speaker 1: They may be able to out sprint us, but they eventually tire and we can stalk them and run them down through our endurance.
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Speaker 2: And yeah.
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Speaker 1: So it's interesting, and a biological component of that is our ability to sweat.
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Speaker 1: Humans have two to four million sweat glands, which means that we can run and simultaneously cool our body at the same time.
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Speaker 1: We don't have fur like a lot of other animals, like this dog over here that's lying over here.
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Speaker 1: So, yeah, remember, in the summertime the dog comes in panting and gets hot, like he can run really fast, but eventually it's like you know I'll play fetch with it, but you know she'll eventually tire and she can't do anything.
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Speaker 1: She's got a lot of fur right, so she's hot.
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Speaker 1: So Dogs rely on panting to cool down.
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Speaker 1: Some animals, like horses and camels, can sweat, but they just don't do it as efficiently as humans can, so they ultimately overheat and they must slow down.
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Speaker 1: So that's a unique component of the difference between humans and other animals.
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Speaker 1: We also have some special adaptations with our running mechanics.
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Speaker 1: We're well suited for endurance running.
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Speaker 1: We have the human running gate.
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Speaker 1: We have two main phases.
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Speaker 1: We have aerial, with both feet off the ground in the stance with at least one foot touching the ground.
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Speaker 1: When we're running, gravity is pulling us down, which generates a lot of kinetic energy, but we lose some kinetic energy when we decelerate.
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Speaker 1: We're getting geeked out in science here.
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Speaker 1: The bottom line is that we are, as humans are, very springy with our tendons, which acts like a Pogo stick.
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Speaker 1: We can store a lot more elastic energy over the long haul.
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Speaker 1: We don't tire as easy.
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Speaker 1: I guess that's the takeaway from that.
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Speaker 1: Because we're like Pogo sticks, we don't use as much energy as a lot of other animals do, which enables us to not run necessarily fast, but we have the ability to sustain over the long haul.
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Speaker 1: That makes it interesting.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty cool.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty cool.
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Speaker 1: Then ultimately our mindset.
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Speaker 1: So, ability to persist and endure and when we think that our body is shutting down, we can continue to move forward.
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Speaker 1: I guess that's the crux of what we talk about here On the Do Our Things podcast is really mindset.
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Speaker 2: Mind over matter, that's what it boils down to yeah, Anyone that's run further than the last distance they ran knows it's all about mindset.
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Speaker 2: It's always about mindset, even on the short distances.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't matter Whatever your longest distance is or your goal is, even if you've never run a mile and you just want to run a mile.
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Speaker 1: It's all about mindset, Absolutely when was the first time that you, I guess, trained for a race and your mindset was really, really challenged.
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Speaker 1: You didn't think that you could do it and you had to push through anyway, like physically.
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Speaker 2: When I first started running, when I was training for that Ragnar race in 2018, I hated running.
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Speaker 2: Then that's when I was still hated running.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I absolutely so.
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Speaker 2: Rewind.
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Speaker 2: Prior to that, I guess in 2009, when we moved to Missouri, I was trying to get into running and, rudy, I would go run with him and he was trying to train me air quotes, military style, and anyone that's been in the military or run with people with the military running mindset it's horrible.
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Speaker 2: Like they drain the fun from running, like it is horrible.
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Speaker 2: And so it was at mile one I'm like this is horrible, I hate this, I don't want to do this, but I didn't want to.
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Speaker 2: I didn't let myself quit because I didn't like it, but I would say that's when I had to push through just to hit that two mile mark.
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Speaker 2: Back then I was just like nope, this is horrible, I'm dying, no way.
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Speaker 2: But there's a difference between training the military way, where you're training to a certain standard and time and you've got to keep going, blah, blah, blah, versus when I found my happy place in running because I'm not in the military.
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Speaker 2: You can stop if you want to, it's OK.
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Speaker 2: You can go really slow if you want to, and that's.
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Speaker 1: You can stop and take pictures, and that's all right 12 minute mile is the same distance as a six minute mile.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and I don't have to pass a PT test, so there we go, you've got to be able to enjoy it.
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Speaker 1: That's one thing I found when people when they, when they don't stick with running or their training plan, it's usually because they they've they've sucked the joy out of it in some way.
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Speaker 1: Yes, sometimes you have to do the hard thing and kind of push through the workout, but every if you're, if every single time you go out and run and you're finding it to be like you're, you're really like it, it sucks the soul out of you.
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Speaker 1: Well, of course, you're not going to stay with it.
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Speaker 1: And there's a cool thing and this is when I train runners.
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Speaker 1: There's a variety of.
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Speaker 1: There's five different paces that I train people at.
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Speaker 1: Most people run the same pace, oftentimes the same course, and they're running harder than they need to be and it gets boring after a while or it's like you know it that it's what years of running in the military.
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Speaker 1: It was like that.
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Speaker 1: It was like we got to run hard every time everywhere we go.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's not smart, and the world's fastest runners don't even train that way.
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Speaker 1: Even you know your Kipchogi and some of the fastest runners in the world run zone too.
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Speaker 1: They run very, very.
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Speaker 1: Most of your runs should be very, very slow, conversational pace, enjoying it, with maybe you know one or two, one long distance run a week and then one speed work a week, and that's all you got to do.
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Speaker 1: That's it, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a little.
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Speaker 2: There's a little geeky science behind that.
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Speaker 2: You know, fast twitch muscles, slow twitch muscles, how you train engages both.
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying listen to your run coach, if you have one.
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Speaker 2: When they're telling you to slow down, there's a reason Scientifically, you're going to be a better runner.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you need to know it, look it up.
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Speaker 2: If you want to know it, we'll talk about it on another episode.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, when people tell you to slow down and just run at a slower pace, just do it.
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Speaker 2: Just listen, Don't fight it.
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Speaker 1: That's the funny thing about the military mindset is everyone's yelling at you to run faster all the time.
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Speaker 1: I feel as a running coach I'm spending more time in conversation trying to get my runners to slow down.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: That's because you train a lot of military people.
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Speaker 2: That's why I'm sure you have to slow down to run fast so there's a mindset bit for you.
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Speaker 2: Just got to believe it doesn't feel right, it doesn't matter.
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Speaker 1: Just you just got to, you just got to go with it.
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Speaker 1: So, but yeah, so, kind of going back to to mastering mindset, and you know what?
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Speaker 1: What I've, what I've learned from endurance sports, is that you know when, when you think this I think of Goggins, there's another climber movie on Netflix and when you think you're only 40% finished or there's another effort that you can use, instead of finished you are, you still have like 60% left to go.
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Speaker 1: Like you, when your body thinks you're physically done, you actually have more on the table.
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Speaker 1: And it's true, like you and this is what I love about endurance sports is it forces you mentally and physically to brush against the wall and push through anyway.
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Speaker 1: And that's, I think, that you will find an endurance sports, more than anything else, that most of it is mindset.
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Speaker 1: It really is your ability to overcome when you are completely tapped out.
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Speaker 1: And that's what I love about putting myself in those positions because even like this weekend and with the adventure race, like there were moments where you're just completely physically tired and it's like you go from one phase to the next, like getting off the bike into the canoe and you're paddling your ass off and then you're soaking wet and you're tired.
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Speaker 1: Then you get out of the canoe.
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Speaker 1: It's like, okay, cool, that part is over, give me a second, let me fuel up, give my mind right and then we'll get on to the next evolution.
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Speaker 1: But it's like at that moment you could have completely.
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Speaker 1: Every fiber in your body wants to quit.
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Speaker 1: But you just kind of rewire your mindset and kind of push on to the next event and you can keep going.
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Speaker 1: You can go longer than you think you can.
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and a way to do that is to chunk it down, chunk that time down.
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Speaker 2: So, like for me, my whatever your short distance is.
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Speaker 2: So me, for example, my short distance is a 5K.
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Speaker 2: Like that is a very easy, comfortable, quick thing for me to do.
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Speaker 2: So when I'm running anything, when I'm running a 10K, or if I'm running a 15K or a half marathon or a marathon or whatever, whatever I'm running, I chunk that down into 5Ks and I click it off.
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Speaker 2: Oh, there's another 5K.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I've only got one 5K left, or two 5Ks left.
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Speaker 2: But that's how I chunk it down into smaller pieces, versus going oh my God, I've got another 10 miles to go.
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Speaker 2: Like that's not, that's not what gets me through.
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Speaker 2: What gets me through is just chunking it down, just bit by bit.
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Speaker 2: And if you're a two mile person, if you're just training for two miles, break it down into a quarter miles and half miles.
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Speaker 2: You know, oh, I've only got, you know, a couple of half miles to go.
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Speaker 2: And you'll be amazed at, when you reframe that thinking, how much easier it feels and how much faster it goes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, if you can chunk it down like to your point, like I like to break things down like 5K distance.
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Speaker 1: So it's like you know what?
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Speaker 1: I've got X amount of 5Ks to do.
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Speaker 1: I do 5Ks all the time.
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Speaker 1: Well, 5k training runs Like, okay, I just need I got two 5Ks to go.
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Speaker 1: Let me just focus on the next 5K.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, when we get to that mileage, we'll see where we're at and then we break it down into like okay, I got one more to go, and then you finish.
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Speaker 1: You finish strong there.
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Speaker 1: So anytime that you're doing anything and I think that translates well into your day to day routine Anytime that you have a project, break it down into bite-sized chunks.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't seem nearly as daunting and you can kind of persevere and push through.
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Speaker 1: Yep, every time every time and it's just breaking it.
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Speaker 1: So just breaking it down in the sections as opposed to like tackling the whole beast, it makes it just so much more manageable physically and mentally.
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Speaker 1: Wherever your mind goes, your body will go.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what is that?
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Speaker 2: Where your mind goes, your energy flows Absolutely yes, is that what it is?
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Speaker 2: Who is that?
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Speaker 2: Tony Robbins, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I remember who it was.
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Speaker 2: Tony Robbins is one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: So you can always can I do one more?
21:07
Speaker 1: You can always do one more.
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Speaker 1: So, yeah, I think that you know something.
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Speaker 1: A technique that has helped me quite well and I've done it in my personal life and I've done it in racing is to visualize, like when you're, when you tow the line at an event, visualize how the whole race is gonna go.
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Speaker 1: I would say don't do it like don't tow the line, then visualize you wanna do it leading up to the event.
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Speaker 1: So visualize the entire, from getting their packet pickup through the entire sequence of events that's gonna happen during your race.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I do this in my personal life when I'm working on projects as well.
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Speaker 1: But focus on that.
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Speaker 1: There's a great story about Jim Thorpe.
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Speaker 1: He was the Native American that I forgot what Olympics it was.
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Speaker 1: But he's big story was that he was a I think it was a pentathlete.
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Speaker 1: There's multiple events, his shoes he lost his shoes and he found a set of shoes and they were the mismatched size and he basically just destroyed everyone during that Olympic event.
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Speaker 1: But on the ship over there there was a reporter.
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Speaker 1: He was sitting in a chair and, being Native American, they were kind of giving him some crap anyway.
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Speaker 1: But the reporter was kind of snarky with him and basically ask him how he was gonna finish over there.
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Speaker 1: He's like I'm gonna win.
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Speaker 1: And he's like, well, what are you?
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Speaker 1: How are you gonna do that?
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm visualizing myself doing the long jump, like right now, like he's like working through that, that sequence, just visualizing it.
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Speaker 1: And that was like that was before visualization became really, really popular.
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Speaker 1: That was the technique that he was using.
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Speaker 1: The bottom line is, by visualizing kind of goes back into manifesting.
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Speaker 1: Right, you're already putting yourself there, you're already seeing it happen, you're already anticipating some things that could happen and you're kind of problem solving to that to make the entire event much, much smoother.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like experiencing it before you even get there and there's some powerful mindset ability to endure, to get through it.
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Speaker 1: By doing that, how do you visualize things?
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Speaker 2: I do, I do, and that's you know.
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Speaker 2: Part of that is also knowing that when you visualize and when you do that, your mind doesn't.
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Speaker 2: When your eyes are closed and you're sitting there, the power of thought is so strong and real.
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Speaker 2: Your mind does not know the difference between.
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Speaker 2: Your brain does not know the difference, your thoughts don't know the difference between physical activity and thought.
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Speaker 2: So when you're visualizing it, you bring up these emotions, you bring up these body processes.
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Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of things that happen and these connections that start happening in your brain and then when you go out and do it, it's just, it's a completely different experience and we don't have time to go into all that, all the science, geeky stuff on that one.
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Speaker 2: But there is a lot of power and visual visualization that people don't take into account.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely so you can.
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Speaker 1: So, yeah, but visualization is a powerful, powerful thing.
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Speaker 1: I know, angie and I we're believers of the law of attraction and the more that you I've become more of a believer in it, the more that I have practiced it with, the more that you can think about things.
24:34
Speaker 1: It just lines up.
24:37
Speaker 1: So because your subconscious is working and when you visualize things, it lines up your actions and thoughts to let your subconscious kind of like I Don't know lay the tracks, if you will, to where it is that you want to go, without you even thinking about it.
24:52
Speaker 1: I think visualization is really powerful, like before you go to bed, because why you're sleeping, you're allowing your brain the opportunity to kind of work on the processes While you're sleeping.
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Speaker 1: I know it sounds kind of hokey for those that may not have done it before, but give it a try, give it a try next time you have a Run or if you're dealing with something in life like a project in life, just sit down, close your eyes and Just imagine the sequence, like visualizing yourself going through the entire process To completion and actually feeling it.
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Speaker 1: Like feeling like the sense of accomplishment when you're done and and it's amazing how powerful that the process works.
25:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, so visualize.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
25:39
Speaker 2: So this, this class I'm in, is the absolute hardest academic class I've ever taken in my entire life.
25:44
Speaker 2: And there are a lot of people who have been done like they're just like.
25:49
Speaker 2: I am so ready to be done with this.
25:51
Speaker 2: But you can see, you can see it on their faces, like they are just they're done, they just they have.
25:57
Speaker 2: They don't want to give anything else.
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Speaker 2: But every day I think about getting the certificate of completion and all the things in my career it's gonna open so many doors, right, and so when teachers, when the instructors or you know they'll, we'll walk in the hallway.
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Speaker 2: They're like so how you doing?
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Speaker 2: I'm like I'm great.
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Speaker 2: They're like are you still enjoying it?
26:18
Speaker 2: I'm like, hell, yeah, I am.
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Speaker 2: Like I'm still here, I'm in the fight, I'm loving it.
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Speaker 2: Like I'm so excited to be here because there's it I can.
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Speaker 2: I Think about and I visualize the in-state that, completing the course and all the things that's going to happen.
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Speaker 2: Because I've put in all the work in the course.
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Speaker 2: I'm not.
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Speaker 2: My life is not sucking for me.
26:37
Speaker 2: It is hard.
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Speaker 2: This is so mentally taxing, but it's worth it and there's so many rewards that I'll reap because of it.
26:44
Speaker 2: But people lose side of that and you can see it because you know that literally on Friday the teachers are like man, I think you're the only one that's still excited to be here.
26:52
Speaker 2: I'm like there's no reason not to be excited to be here.
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Speaker 2: Nothing but good can come from completing this course.
26:58
Speaker 2: Nothing but good can come from it, and it's just yes.
27:02
Speaker 2: Yes to Jay's point.
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Speaker 1: Visualize it I can't believe you're excited to still be there enduring this mental.
27:09
Speaker 2: No, they can't, but I am.
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Speaker 2: I am, it's, it's, it is just, it is what it is, and there's so much good that's gonna come from it, so why would, why should I be upset and like, oh god, I hate this?
27:21
Speaker 2: No, no, yes, it's hard, but we do hard things right.
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Speaker 1: That's what we live for we get to choose our emotions Right, we get to choose our emotions and all things, and if you can do that when you're enduring something challenging, that's I mean that that's a testament to your Ability to control and regulate your emotions and see the positivity like your mindset's in a great spot.
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Speaker 1: I think it's awesome.
27:45
Speaker 2: Do you remember when I, when I did that 50k out in a wasatomy Kansas and started cramping at mile 22?
27:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was really hard.
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Speaker 1: Lacey asked me this weekend because I've been known to like throw, like temper tantrums, like there's a long event, like I'll have these, like moments where I'm just completely disheveled and I throw my bike and I haven't done that.
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Speaker 1: I was telling Lacey I haven't done that in a while.
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Speaker 1: I used to do that and I think I'm better able to.
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Speaker 1: I've learned to better be able to control that.
28:15
Speaker 1: Good for you.
28:15
Speaker 1: I don't think the last time I had like a fit, I think was like at the epic 150 and I threw my bike.
28:23
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm like I'm just creating more problems.
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Speaker 1: I was like I was only like four miles from the finish but I was just like so done.
28:31
Speaker 1: I was laying on the road and I'm just like so done, and I remember throwing my bike.
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Speaker 1: I'm like this bike has carried me all the way this far.
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Speaker 1: I'm not doing anything but being an ass and I'm probably gonna break my bike and I'm gonna have to walk this thing home and I'm like, and I haven't had, I haven't done that since, but I used to have for you, regulate you, being able to regulate your, your emotions.
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Speaker 1: I still have challenge with that in my day-to-day life.
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Speaker 1: From time to time I get pissed off about things.
29:03
Speaker 1: I got it like remind me the whole hey, who's father thing.
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Speaker 2: That is a huge step forward.
29:10
Speaker 2: I'm so proud of you so good.
29:13
Speaker 2: Hey man, I listen.
29:15
Speaker 2: I'm not perfect.
29:15
Speaker 2: I have my moments, but I'm so proud of you for doing that.
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Speaker 1: Bob roll used to be known for throwing his bike all the time.
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Speaker 1: I used to kind of do that and I never liked it.
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Speaker 1: When I was done, I mean I kind of laugh about it at the end of the race, but there's something to suck like.
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Speaker 1: You know what I didn't like that I lost my emotional control.
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Speaker 1: And I did in those moments and I didn't like that about myself, mm-hmm, and I'm like it's not that serious, I'm not.
29:38
Speaker 1: You know, I am not.
29:39
Speaker 1: I Might go for age group from time to time, but I'm not like overall winner.
29:44
Speaker 1: So like I just need to just calm down.
29:46
Speaker 1: I'm just grateful that I can be out here.
29:47
Speaker 1: It kind goes about good, goes back reminding myself my gratitude, yeah, and I can be here.
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Speaker 1: So mm-hmm.
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Speaker 2: Good for Lacey, for for sticking with you, for that.
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Speaker 1: She asked me every time I do a big event like did you have a temper tantrum?
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Speaker 1: I Haven't had one in a while.
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Speaker 1: I think it was the last one.
30:06
Speaker 2: Oh, so that's been a couple years.
30:11
Speaker 1: And you know what having good teammates to Because I've raced with teammates that did that and it's like, and I would just be like, oh, that sucks, I don't, I don't want to be, and I've I've been blessed to race with some really good teammates when I've done some of these adventure things, and it's just Having good people that are in a good emotional space when things get hard is a really good.
30:37
Speaker 1: It just creates such a positive environment to be around.
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Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
30:42
Speaker 1: So, when things get hard, be the person that's uplifting and not losing your emotional control.
30:49
Speaker 1: I Feel like I've graduated from that and it's taken a while to putting myself in these situations New, worst times to kind of break through that.
30:57
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, listen, we're all humans who are all gonna have our, our moments, right it's.
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Speaker 2: It's how, how do we recover?
31:03
Speaker 2: How quickly do we allow ourselves to sit in that Mess?
31:06
Speaker 2: And then, how well do we do?
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Speaker 2: When I first got here, I was running a 5k, right, because I, you know running Stopped and ran in Indianapolis, stopped and ran in Ohio, ran in West Virginia, came here, ran the next day.
31:19
Speaker 2: My lower back has caused I've got some stupid injury from the Tough Mudder last April and Pain so bad that I almost couldn't finish a 5k and a 5k to me.
31:31
Speaker 2: Normally I won't even go out for less than a 5k because that's, that is my easy, that is my easy.
31:37
Speaker 2: And when I got a mile two and I could barely walk, I lost it on the track.
31:42
Speaker 2: I was crying like, oh my god, I can't do this and that.
31:46
Speaker 2: And then by the time I got to the elevator, I'm like get your shit together, man, like what is wrong with you?
31:50
Speaker 2: It's okay, you're gonna be fine.
31:53
Speaker 2: Listen, your body, heal, rest, and then get back out there and kill it and then you can start training back up again.
31:59
Speaker 2: You know.
31:59
Speaker 1: So we all have our moments, it's just and so I love about these events because it kind of puts you out there in these positions and it just makes you better when life actually happens, yeah and and so you're really putting yourself out there in a controlled environment to really really push your mind in your body and Work through some of these things.
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Speaker 1: I think it just makes you.
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Speaker 1: I don't know it goes hand-in-hand it.
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Speaker 1: It allows you to, to just be, to get better so many ways.
32:32
Speaker 1: It's what I love about these events that push you to your absolute limits, yes, and then you get to be in that state of really, you know, working through, like you know Talking, talking yourself off the ledge, and yeah emotions and feels and everything so.
32:50
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
32:51
Speaker 2: And guess what, if you're listening, anybody can be an endurance athlete, anybody, anybody.
32:57
Speaker 2: Just Little nugget there, little nugget All right.
33:02
Speaker 1: Well, we need to transition.
33:04
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna move toward the exit of the show here, but All right.
33:10
Speaker 1: So we usually have a weekly Winner spotlight, but this is more of a let's call this a life well lived segment.
33:18
Speaker 1: This is Bob Burgess.
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Speaker 1: Bob was a former.
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Speaker 1: We highlighted him a few months ago I'll remember exactly what month, but it was probably over the over the last summer and Bob recently, as just yesterday, he passed, and so this is.
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Speaker 1: This is sad, but we're also celebrating, because I truly believe that he wanted to go be with the Lord and we should celebrate that.
33:43
Speaker 1: Bob was a I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I got to meet him at the end of life and he was just such an inspirational and kind man and he had, you know, he had been struggling with with health.
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Speaker 1: He just really.
33:57
Speaker 1: He just recently lost his son too, and but he's, you know, he's in a better place now and we just want to thank Bob for for just Demonstrating what kindness.
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Speaker 1: When I think of Bob, I think of grit, determination and kindness, because he was incredibly just kind.
34:18
Speaker 1: I mean, he just just a.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna cherish my, my, my, my, my friendship with him the short time that I, that I got to know him.
34:27
Speaker 1: He's wearing the shirt that that we sent him to remember why he started, and he was a veteran US Army and we just appreciate.
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Speaker 1: You know a life well live and demonstrating what kindness and grit determination look like.
34:42
Speaker 1: So Absolutely.
34:45
Speaker 1: So, bob, we know that you're.
34:46
Speaker 1: You're looking down on us from heaven and just keep getting after it and we look forward to seeing you eventually.
34:51
Speaker 1: See you again, buddy.
34:53
Speaker 1: But yeah, kind of a Sombra, somber bad news it's.
34:58
Speaker 1: You know you hate to hear about these things, but also knowing he's in a better place.
35:02
Speaker 1: So Absolutely All right, so well, that's it for for today's show.
35:15
Speaker 2: Well, hello, I am still live.
35:17
Speaker 2: It appears Jay is gone.
35:19
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what happened.
35:20
Speaker 2: It says that we are live and yeah, hey, look guys, happy Monday.
35:28
Speaker 2: Today we talked about the endurance mindset.
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Speaker 2: Anybody, you need to develop it.
35:32
Speaker 2: You need to work on it, right, it's it.
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Speaker 2: Anybody can do it, everybody can do it.
35:36
Speaker 2: You should be doing it.
35:37
Speaker 2: Whatever your endurance is, I want you to really just, next time you're out there, next time you're putting in the work, I really want you to just Lock it in, dial it in, get, get in your, in your head and and really Talk yourself up.
35:53
Speaker 2: Man, talk yourself up.
35:54
Speaker 2: You can do it.
35:54
Speaker 2: You can stay in the game, chunk out those long segments of time into smaller ones, and you've got this.
36:00
Speaker 2: And, as always, as we always close the show, go out and and do something to make somebody smile, but first make yourself smile.
36:08
Speaker 2: But, yeah, just go go, spread the love, spread the happiness, spread the kindness and have a kick-ass Monday and we will see you next time.
36:18
Speaker 2: Hey, you're back.
36:23
Speaker 2: I Just close the show out, but I don't know how to turn it off, so we're still recording live.
36:30
Speaker 2: I just love this.
36:30
Speaker 2: I can't hear you you're.
36:32
Speaker 2: I have no idea what's going on, but I see you're laughing.
36:37
Speaker 2: I see you're You're laughing.
36:40
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to close the show out.
36:41
Speaker 2: I Did that.
36:43
Speaker 2: I did that.
36:44
Speaker 2: Hey, I did it.
36:45
Speaker 2: I did it.
36:45
Speaker 2: I reminded everybody to go smile and to make somebody smile and make them so smile.
36:49
Speaker 2: I did it when you disappeared on me.
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Speaker 2: Have a happy Monday, everybody.