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Elon Musk exposes why Democrats don’t want ‘waste and fraud’ to be turned off! · Gil I Am

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  Speaker 1: All right, we welcome to the show in a special
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  Speaker 1: interview with mister Elon Musk, who of course is famed
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  Speaker 1: Trump advisor, CEO of Tesla SpaceX, chair of ex Corporilon.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for doing this, We appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: I want to begin. Among other things, everyone's attacking you
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  Speaker 1: for your position. What are you doing in the government.
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  Speaker 1: There was a cyber attack on X today which shut
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  Speaker 1: it down and may have been foreign sourced. It's a
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  Speaker 1: big story. You want to give us a moment on that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we're not sure exactly what happened, but there was
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  Speaker 2: a massive cyber attack to try to bring down the
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  Speaker 2: X system with IP addresses originating in the Ukraine area.
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  Speaker 1: Well, so that's your suspicion. Is the website? Is the
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  Speaker 1: Internet up? Is it up yet?
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  Speaker 2: It's up? Yeah, it's up yet.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, good, But I just was looking back. Let me
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  Speaker 1: get see if I get this right. They're setting fire
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  Speaker 1: to various Tesla chargings stations near Boston. Shots were fired
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  Speaker 1: at a Tesla dealership in Oregon. Various non violencet's fired
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  Speaker 1: not a metaphor, not's fired? Yes? Downtown New York marching
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  Speaker 1: marching against the Tesla's showroom. Your stock is way down.
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  Speaker 1: You've been criticized left and right.
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  Speaker 2: But look on the right side.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what are you doing this?
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  Speaker 2: Always look on you always look on the right side
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  Speaker 2: of life.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, But besides that, yes, I mean, what motivates you
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  Speaker 1: to do this?
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  Speaker 2: What suppors the opera? Good? It's tough sledding, yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: is tough sledding, But I think we're doing the right
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  Speaker 2: thing here. The you know, there's been a transse amount
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  Speaker 2: of wasting fort in the in the government. You know,
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  Speaker 2: when you're part of the government, you saw a lot
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  Speaker 2: of that and it's and there there's been uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if you look at the Inspector General reports and the
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  Speaker 2: Government Accountability Office, there have been many orders that have
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  Speaker 2: pointed out that there's a tremendous amount of waste and
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  Speaker 2: fraud in the government. In fact, there was a report
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  Speaker 2: issued by by the g g a O, the govern
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  Speaker 2: Accountability Office last year so jent during the Biden administration,
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  Speaker 2: which estimated the federal government fraud the half a trillion dollars.
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  Speaker 2: So just because that's that's not a Trump administration thing,
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  Speaker 2: that's a Biden administration thing. So what we're trying to
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  Speaker 2: do is get that number down to a much smaller figure.
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  Speaker 2: Save money for the American taxpayer. Stop money being spent
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  Speaker 2: on things that are that I think very few taxpayers
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  Speaker 2: would agree. Make sense, you know, transgender animal surgeries, or
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  Speaker 2: why are we spending Why are American tax dollars being
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  Speaker 2: spent on this? And the presidents are gone through a
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  Speaker 2: long list of absertad things. Why are the twenty million
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  Speaker 2: people who are definitely dead marked as alive in the
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  Speaker 2: Social Security database? Why we're hundreds of millions of dollars
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  Speaker 2: of small business Administration loans were given out to people
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  Speaker 2: aged eleven and under according to the Social Security like,
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  Speaker 2: these must have some very enterprising eight year olds, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty strong one hundred and fifty year olds.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, As as the President said, you know, we
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  Speaker 2: have an enormous number of people marked as alive who
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty. He didn't know the country was
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  Speaker 2: that healthy.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you know. So demystify this. How do you do it? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: How big is your team? Where'd you recruit most of
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  Speaker 1: them from? And what is it that makes you choose
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Treasury or Social Security or USAID? How
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  Speaker 1: does it work. Let the public know, please.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Well, we just basically follow the money. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we look at the presence executive orders and we also
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  Speaker 2: just follow the money. So we started looking closely at
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  Speaker 2: usc I D because they were completely violating the presence
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  Speaker 2: executive orders to suspend foreign foreign aid. You know what
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  Speaker 2: what's called foreign aid. But in our view is a
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  Speaker 2: lot of corruption. So what we saw there is just
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  Speaker 2: a trans amount of money being sent to non governmental organizations.
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  Speaker 2: But actually it's a by the way, is I think
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  Speaker 2: one of the biggest sources of fraud in the world
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  Speaker 2: is government funded non governmental organizations. This is this is
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  Speaker 2: a gigantic fraud loophole where the government can give money
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  Speaker 2: to an NGO and then that there were no controls
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  Speaker 2: over that NGO, So they've given billions dollars in thatch,
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  Speaker 2: we estimate tens of billions of dollars to NGOs that
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  Speaker 2: are essentially scams and way I try to put us
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  Speaker 2: UF to that.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't want to interrupt. Secretary of State Rubio
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  Speaker 1: just come out. I think he tweeted today he is
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  Speaker 1: accepted over eighty percent of your recommendations to shut down
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  Speaker 1: in U S A I D. So your review and
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  Speaker 1: analysis was spot on. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: So I think when people criticize, say what DOGE is doing,
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  Speaker 2: we say, well, which parts specifically, because we put all
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  Speaker 2: of the actions of the DOG team on the dose
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  Speaker 2: dot gov website and on the dog headline X, so
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  Speaker 2: we post the receipts, so it's like this, this action
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  Speaker 2: has been taken, this action has been taken. So when
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  Speaker 2: when we get criticism, we say, like, of what of
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  Speaker 2: what which which one line do you disagree with? Like
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  Speaker 2: which which cut? Which cut? Which cost saving do you
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  Speaker 2: disagree with? And the people usually can't think.
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  Speaker 1: Of any no, you know, So it's transparent line by line.
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  Speaker 2: It's transparent line by line, which is quite remarkable, right
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  Speaker 2: and so, and then with respect to the Treasury, for example,
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  Speaker 2: the two main recommendations we suggested which have not been implemented,
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  Speaker 2: was that any payments going out of the Treasury, especially
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  Speaker 2: the Treasury's main payment computer, which is called PEN, things
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  Speaker 2: like Payments Account Manager or something like that. It's like
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  Speaker 2: almost five trillion a year, so about a billion an hour,
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  Speaker 2: that the payments be coded with the congressional appropriation, and
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  Speaker 2: that there'd be an explanation for the payment. Very basic stuff,
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  Speaker 2: and just doing that, we estimate we'll save one hundred
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  Speaker 2: billion dollars a year.
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  Speaker 1: You're not really let me see if I get this right,
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  Speaker 1: particularly with so screwed. You're not really changing policy that
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  Speaker 1: you're auditing the fiscal mechanisms to make sure that you know,
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  Speaker 1: from point A gets to point B, and that's where
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  Speaker 1: it's supposed to get to. In some cases it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: get there, or some cases it may go over there.
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  Speaker 1: But that's it's not a policy exercise. You're not changing laws.
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  Speaker 1: You're just doing what any business would do in a
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  Speaker 1: in a in a profit and loss audit.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're really what what what we're adding here
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  Speaker 2: is caring and competence and the there's a massive amount
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  Speaker 2: of fraud of basically people submitting UH social Security numbers
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  Speaker 2: for UH social Security benefits, unemployment, small business administration loans,
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  Speaker 2: and UH and medical where where those are those are
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  Speaker 2: those are fake social screen numbers. So there's where they've
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  Speaker 2: stolen somebody else's social screen number. And we're trying we're
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  Speaker 2: trying to put a stop to all of that. And
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  Speaker 2: that that's the number, which is estimated to be on
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  Speaker 2: the order of ten percent of federal expenditures which is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, half a half a trillion dollars.
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  Speaker 1: A huge number. You're working with the agency heads, you're
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  Speaker 1: working with the Cabinet secrity here. Yes, I saw Howard
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  Speaker 1: Lutnik was on TV yesterday saying you were partnering with them.
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  Speaker 1: Is that there?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what we do is an in consult consultation with
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  Speaker 2: the cabinet sectories and with their departments. So we're really
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  Speaker 2: trying to be sort of we'll refer to ourselves as
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  Speaker 2: tech tech support, you know, we're really helping the department
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  Speaker 2: get a handle on things. Because what actually happens here
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  Speaker 2: is you've got this this sort of vast federal bureaucracy,
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  Speaker 2: and then you've got a very thin layer on top
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  Speaker 2: of the of the politically appointed officials. And what tests
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  Speaker 2: to happen is that the bureaucracy frankly is in control
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  Speaker 2: and they largely ignore the politically appointed people. Why should
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  Speaker 2: the bureaucracy, I'm sure you must have seen that.
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  Speaker 1: I've lived with this twice. I worked for Reagan many
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  Speaker 1: years ago, and I worked for Trump in the first term. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's like a permanent bureaucracy, I might add, it's a
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  Speaker 1: permanently liberal bureaucracy, yes, very much so, and it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: it's not a bureaucracy that necessarily enforces or implements presidential policy.
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  Speaker 2: They don't. In fact, they tried their best to thwart
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  Speaker 2: presidential policy. So the president is the elected representative of
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  Speaker 2: the people. And if the president cannot get things implemented
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  Speaker 2: as a reflection of the will of the people, then
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  Speaker 2: what we have is not a democracy. We have a bureaucracy.
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  Speaker 2: We're rule of the bureau not rule of the people.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what we're trying to defeat. Here is the
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  Speaker 2: bureaucracy and have rule of the people. You know. The
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  Speaker 2: and as you mentioned, the bureaucracy is overwhelmingly Democrats. So
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  Speaker 2: Washington d C Was ninety two and a half percent
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  Speaker 2: I believe voted for Kamala So this overwhelmingly a demo.
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  Speaker 2: A deep move situation.
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  Speaker 1: How do you pick your next targeted agency or department?
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  Speaker 2: Well, we're we're trying to act broadly across old departments,
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  Speaker 2: so it's not just one department at a time.
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  Speaker 1: But are you in all them now? All of them?
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  Speaker 2: Pretty much? Yeah? Yes, Oh, we're trying to make trying
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  Speaker 2: to make the government more efficient across the board.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, how big is your team?
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  Speaker 2: We're a little over one hundred at this point. Get
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  Speaker 2: to two hundred.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to get to two hundred. Yeah, okay, and
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  Speaker 1: you're recruiting from where.
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  Speaker 2: More or less basically it's software people, you know, information security,
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  Speaker 2: software people, and finance. Yeah, it's basically, yeah, finance and
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  Speaker 2: techn algy And I mean, frankly, I can't believe I'm
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  Speaker 2: here doing this. It's kind of bizarre, but I kind
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  Speaker 2: of think that the Yeah, we've got this enormous federal
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  Speaker 2: budget deficit, and it's a true trillion dollar deficit. It
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  Speaker 2: keeps growing. Our interest payments are higher than our defense
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  Speaker 2: department budget. That's that's I think was the real wake
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  Speaker 2: up call for me was looking at seeing that the
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  Speaker 2: interest payments the national debt exceeded the Defense Department budget
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  Speaker 2: and that was only growing over time, which meant if
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  Speaker 2: we didn't do something about this, then there won't be
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  Speaker 2: any money for anything. We'll just be servicing debt.
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  Speaker 1: And you know how to read an income statement and
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  Speaker 1: you know how to read a balance sheet. You've had
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  Speaker 1: some business experience. I'm kidding, but.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know about all this stuff. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 2: really I just don't want America to go bankrupt.
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  Speaker 1: So it's all the action you're feeling. You're hearing a
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  Speaker 1: call to action. Yeah, you're giving up your other stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I mean what do you How are you running your other.
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  Speaker 2: Businesses with great difficulty?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that there's no turning back.
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  Speaker 2: You're saying, I'm just here trying to make government more efficient,
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  Speaker 2: eliminate waste and fraud, and so far we're making good progress. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: so our UH savings at this point exceed four billion
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  Speaker 2: dollars a day, so it's pretty significant.
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  Speaker 1: You think you'll wind up getting to a trillion dollars. Yeah, savings.
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  Speaker 2: I mean unless what's unless we're unless we're stopped, we
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  Speaker 2: will get to a trillion dollars of savings.
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  Speaker 1: And that stuff can be translated. I mean we've been talking.
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  Speaker 1: We had Russell vote the OMB director on earlier through
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  Speaker 1: very decision an authority impowerment authority. But I believe you
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  Speaker 1: said it earlier. It's an audit that will not gather
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  Speaker 1: dust on shelves. This is actually going to wind up
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  Speaker 1: with real savings, bend the base spending baseline down.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there have been many good audits to I sit
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  Speaker 2: done by Inspector Generals and by Governor Accountability Office, and
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  Speaker 2: they just haven't been implemented. Nothing's been done. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I think the GEO identified that there was seventeen million
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  Speaker 2: dead people in the Social Security database several years ago.
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  Speaker 2: It's not twenty million, but we done anything about it.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean, I think you can sort of look
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  Speaker 2: at this as a complaint minimization optimization. So basically, if
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  Speaker 2: the government sends money out to whether it's wastefloor, porgein pordulant,
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  Speaker 2: nobody complains if they receive money, but they do complain
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  Speaker 2: if they don't receive money. And people that complain the
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  Speaker 2: loudest are the ones receiving the fortunate money.
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  Speaker 1: And you're on it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just like I said, the goal, the
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  Speaker 2: goal here is let's let's not have America go bankrupt
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  Speaker 2: with waste and fraud. So that's what I'm here for.
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  Speaker 2: And we're making good progress.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, So you're going to go another year, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think so final report middle of next year.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we're just getting things done as opposed to writing
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  Speaker 2: a report like say, reports don't mean anything, just you've
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  Speaker 2: got to actually take actions. So the I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: waste important in entitlement spending, you know, which is all
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  Speaker 2: of the which is most of the federal spending is entitlements.
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  Speaker 2: So that that's that's like the big one to eliminate
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  Speaker 2: is that that's the sort of half trillion maybe six
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  Speaker 2: seven hundred billion a year. That is also a mechanism
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  Speaker 2: by which the Democrats attract and retain illegal immigrants by
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  Speaker 2: essentially paying them to come here and then turning them
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  Speaker 2: into voters. Yes, so this is why the Democrats are
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  Speaker 2: so upset about the situation, because they're losing. You know,
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  Speaker 2: if we turn off this gigantic money magnet for illegal immigrants,
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  Speaker 2: then they will leave and they will lose voters.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have presidents sport He said so again yesterday
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  Speaker 1: he completely supports your operation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well thanks, but that's without the president's support, we
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  Speaker 2: couldn't make any progress here. But yeah, I mean, where
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  Speaker 2: you'll see the biggest outcry is from the Democrats who
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  Speaker 2: are they don't want the way someport to be turned
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  Speaker 2: off because it is a gigantic magnet to attract legal
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  Speaker 2: immigrants and have them stay in the country. And I
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  Speaker 2: mean you see some of the crazy stuff like where
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  Speaker 2: money from FEMA, you know, which meant FEMA, as an agency,
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  Speaker 2: is meant to take care of Americans in distress, and
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of their money was being sent to pay
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  Speaker 2: for luxury hotels in New York for illegal immigrants. And
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  Speaker 2: that was happening even after the President was elected, even
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  Speaker 2: after he signed an executive orders saying that needs to stop.
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  Speaker 2: So we actually made sure that money did stop going,
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  Speaker 2: because it's obviously it's outrageous that American taxpayer money is
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  Speaker 2: meant on luxury hotels for legals. But you have to say, like,
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  Speaker 2: why is that being done? It was because the Democrats
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  Speaker 2: are trying to import voters. Basically, yes, I agree. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and that's also why there's no voter ID and needed.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, in California and in New York State, you're
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  Speaker 2: not allowed to show voter ID. That's a great Isn't
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  Speaker 2: this even insane?
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  Speaker 1: Insane? Yeah? I'd say that as a New Yorker. It's insane, insane,
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  Speaker 1: and it violates the entire Constitution and the principles behind it.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, producers are.
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  Speaker 1: Yelling at me to get out. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: end this interview because too much fun. Yeah, can I
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  Speaker 1: just ask you one thing? Twenty seconds nothing to do with,
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  Speaker 1: nothing to do with Doge. Can you rescue the astronauts?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yes, we're bringing them back in a few weeks.
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  Speaker 1: It's not near enough attention being paid to this. You're
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  Speaker 1: going to get them back.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to get them back. God bless thank.
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  Speaker 1: You, thank you for all your service, Elon Musk. We
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  Speaker 1: appreciate very apiate, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Take care. Thank you.