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Between The Pipes: Adrian Denny on the Utah Mammoth, The 4-3 win at defending champion Florida Panthers + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 2: We'll give those away at the end of the show
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  Speaker 2: today as we do some cross talk with Spence Checkets.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, we're lucky enough to welcome my friend and
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  Speaker 2: our Utah Mammoth insider, Adrian Denny here to our Broadway studios. Adrian,
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  Speaker 2: I've been here in the studio in behind our very
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  Speaker 2: strange closed windows. I don't see how blustreet are we
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  Speaker 2: actually having a winter day today?
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  Speaker 3: You can feel the low pressure, Okay, you can you
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  Speaker 3: can feel it.
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  Speaker 4: You're bundled up for once.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm freezing walking walking into the building. It's like, gosh,
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  Speaker 3: this is this is winter. It it feels like a
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  Speaker 3: storm's coming in, so buckle up. I just checked my
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  Speaker 3: weather app and it says it is snowing in Salt Lake.
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  Speaker 2: Oh all right, we need it. I guess sure. It's
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  Speaker 2: good for all of us. Let's talk a little Utah
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  Speaker 2: Mammoth hockey. We we discussed the last time we spoke
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  Speaker 2: the importance of certain games on this road trip.
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  Speaker 4: H handle business in Nashville.
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  Speaker 2: Wonderful to see two nothing loss to Tampa and then
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  Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, I was like, Uh, Florida
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  Speaker 2: on a back to back on the road, that's a
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  Speaker 2: really tough out.
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  Speaker 4: But boom Mammoth victory. Baby.
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  Speaker 3: I think we were all feeling the same way going
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  Speaker 3: into Florida with the amount of energy and emotion and
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  Speaker 3: wear and tear that was sustained in Tampa Bay on
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  Speaker 3: Monday in a game where they played really well, just
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  Speaker 3: gave up two power playgals, didn't allow a five on
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  Speaker 3: five goal to the Lightning, who were the second highest
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  Speaker 3: scoring team in the NHL and leading the NHL and
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  Speaker 3: scoring in January.
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  Speaker 4: And then you go to Florida.
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  Speaker 3: You're in Florida, but you go to South Florida to
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  Speaker 3: take on the defending Stanley Cup champion Florida Panthers on
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  Speaker 3: a back to back, As you said, with some game
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  Speaker 3: time decisions. The Mammoth had two extra defensemen taking warm
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  Speaker 3: ups because they weren't sure on a couple of guys,
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  Speaker 3: and one of those that we think was a game
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  Speaker 3: time decision with Sean Jersey, who I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: you saw his face last night, but there was, you know,
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  Speaker 3: below the eye, above the eye, the poor nose, quite
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  Speaker 3: the sight that Sean was last night and had a
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  Speaker 3: kind of a rough first period, gave the puck away
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  Speaker 3: three times, and before you knew it, he's the third
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  Speaker 3: star of the game, scoring a go ahead goal, throwing
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  Speaker 3: a puck to the net that was deflected home by
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  Speaker 3: Mikail Sergachev from twenty seven feet away to make it
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  Speaker 3: three to two in the third period. And isn't that
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  Speaker 3: hockey player like that, you don't even know if he's
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  Speaker 3: gonna play, ends up being.
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  Speaker 4: One of your top stars.
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  Speaker 3: But it was another box checked, I think by by
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  Speaker 3: the Mammoth in that game. Because you know, as you
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  Speaker 3: see teams on back to backs, first period is usually okay,
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  Speaker 3: but then on the second and third you can tell, oh,
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  Speaker 3: this This team is a little low on energy. Decision
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  Speaker 3: making isn't great. Mammoth made some mistakes in the game.
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  Speaker 3: He gave the puck away twice to Tampa's or to
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  Speaker 3: Florida's fourth line, and they scored on assisted goals like
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  Speaker 3: but they just never let it get away. They just
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  Speaker 3: kind of stayed with it, kept that composure, kept that patience,
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  Speaker 3: and found a way to merge with with two points.
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  Speaker 3: So really nice, nice win. First time they've ever beaten Florida.
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  Speaker 3: They played some really good games against them. But I think,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in January we've seen just some more steps taken.
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  Speaker 3: I think the latest one was taken last night in Sunrise.
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  Speaker 2: Going back to the game against the Lightning, as you mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: you give up a couple of shorthanded goals.
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  Speaker 4: Power play goals, power play goals.
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  Speaker 2: You is the is the special teams where it needs
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  Speaker 2: to be for this Mammoth team right now.
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  Speaker 3: It's been hit and miss, right, So you give up
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  Speaker 3: those two power play goals in Tampa Bay, that's the
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  Speaker 3: game to nothing. Last night in Florida, four for four
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  Speaker 3: on the penalty kill and you scored a shorthanded goal.
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  Speaker 3: So your PK does a complete flip of the script.
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  Speaker 3: The power play going into Tampa Bay was two for
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  Speaker 3: the last three. Hit scored two huge third period goals
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  Speaker 3: the last two games, one against Philly last Wednesday and
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  Speaker 3: one against Nashville after you just kill the penalty to
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  Speaker 3: make the game four two.
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  Speaker 4: So it's been up and down.
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  Speaker 3: I feel that the shortcomings of the special teams, the
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  Speaker 3: power play and the penalty kill has been more magnified
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  Speaker 3: than when special teams actually does something to help them
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  Speaker 3: win a game, like it did last night with the
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  Speaker 3: penalty kill and the shorthanded goal. But gosh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: those items help you win games and help other teams
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  Speaker 3: win games, so it's big. So now you've gone two
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  Speaker 3: straight games without a power play goal, you got the
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  Speaker 3: PK back on track. So to answer your question, probably
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  Speaker 3: just a little more consistency in getting those big power
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  Speaker 3: play goals. Because in Tampa Bay on Monday, entered the
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  Speaker 3: game two for your last three. You go zero for
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  Speaker 3: your first two, and you have five shots, some good chances.
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  Speaker 3: Power play looked fine until the third period you're down
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  Speaker 3: one nothing and nothing happened. No shots, couldn't keep the
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  Speaker 3: puck in, couldn't get the first unit off to get
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  Speaker 3: the second unit on to try something different like it.
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  Speaker 4: It was.
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  Speaker 3: It was a struggle, so hit and miss is how
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  Speaker 3: I describe it. And it's just like, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: Mammoth not getting their first ever six on five goal
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  Speaker 3: until last Wednesday, but other teams in the NHL do
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  Speaker 3: and that helps them get points, and they're competing against
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  Speaker 3: you because they're getting six on five goals and they're
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  Speaker 3: getting you know, another power play goal or two that
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  Speaker 3: you're not. So in the big picture, it hurts in
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  Speaker 3: the standings when you're when you're not measured up average.
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  Speaker 2: I actually I heard Bill Armstrom talking about this the
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  Speaker 2: other day about how you know the the six on
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  Speaker 2: five you pull your goalie and it's first Where people
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  Speaker 2: have been watching the Mammoth in a lot of us,
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people are newish to hockey, right, and
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  Speaker 2: it has looked like kind of a fool's errand like
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  Speaker 2: why do you do this? It doesn't it doesn't make
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  Speaker 2: a ton of sense because the results haven't been there.
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  Speaker 2: But it's a tried and true method in hockey that yes,
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  Speaker 2: is a desperation move in a lot of cases, but
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  Speaker 2: there's reasoning behind it. And it was funny to see
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  Speaker 2: how long. Funny might be the wrong word, but interesting
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  Speaker 2: to see how long it took for it to work
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  Speaker 2: out translate to a goal in the victory eventually.
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  Speaker 3: And it wasn't a six on five goal that you're
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  Speaker 3: ever going to see again. It was Clayton Keller ripping
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  Speaker 3: the puck away in the defensive zone because Utah could
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  Speaker 3: not keep Philadelphia away from their empty net. Yes, small
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  Speaker 3: trip to puck away. Keller knocked a puck away as
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  Speaker 3: Philly strain's scoring an empty net and Jack McBain was
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  Speaker 3: able to block a shot. And then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: Clayton Keller rips the puck away, skates down, gets around
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  Speaker 3: a Philly defenseman in Travis Sandheim who's going to the Olympics,
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  Speaker 3: walked around him and scored an unassisted six on five goal.
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  Speaker 3: Never seen it before in my life.
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  Speaker 2: Went airborne to do it to get over there. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was actually was. It was reminiscent in
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  Speaker 2: NHL ninety four. If you remember playing that game on
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  Speaker 2: Nintendo or on Sega Genesis. You had to the goaltenders
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  Speaker 2: in that game unable to react to you going across
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  Speaker 2: the face of the goal. That's exactly what he pulled
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  Speaker 2: off a beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah it was. It was nice.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, you pull the goalie to give yourself
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  Speaker 3: a power play in the final two minutes, it's like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, all or nothing here, Yeah, let's go, let's go.
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  Speaker 3: So you're six on five and you're thinking, all right, um,
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  Speaker 3: you know we've got the advantage is a power play,
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  Speaker 3: but hadn't been able to get one, and did get
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  Speaker 3: one against Philly in the most unconventional of ways that
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  Speaker 3: you'll ever see.
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  Speaker 2: So four to three against the Panthers for the first
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  Speaker 2: win against the Panthers, Like you said, and this is
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  Speaker 2: a Panthers team that is back closer to absolute full strength.
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  Speaker 2: So is that more meaningful because of who the Panthers
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  Speaker 2: had available.
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  Speaker 3: When Utah played them in December they lost for to three,
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  Speaker 3: giving up the goal in the final minute. They still
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  Speaker 3: had their their identity. It still looked like the Florida Panthers.
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  Speaker 3: They still had that Stanley Cup fabric. Serge Bobrovsky was
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  Speaker 3: still making big saves. Florida got Brad mar Shand back
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  Speaker 3: over the weekend, got a game winning goal on their
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  Speaker 3: road trip, got Matthew Chuck back last week they'd won
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  Speaker 3: three in a row going into the game, coming off
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  Speaker 3: of a road trip, and as we said, Utah has
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  Speaker 3: played them good a game they lost the final minute,
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  Speaker 3: an overtime loss game that was two to one. Last year,
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  Speaker 3: going down the stretch for the Panthers got a couple
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  Speaker 3: empty netters. So they played good like a lot of teams,
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  Speaker 3: and they just were able to just drag the game
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  Speaker 3: out to a point that they were able to management
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  Speaker 3: to manage it. And as we talked about the start
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  Speaker 3: of that seven game homestand Andrew Turney was talking about
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  Speaker 3: game management. We're doing everything right, but now we need
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  Speaker 3: to manage the game and manage situations, and I think
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  Speaker 3: Utah did that. I also think Utah got another schedule break,
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  Speaker 3: oh see, because for Florida that was kind of a
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  Speaker 3: road game because they were on a three game trip,
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  Speaker 3: came back, played one road game or played played that
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  Speaker 3: home game, and now they're back on the road. They
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  Speaker 3: left today for Saint Louis after they were just on
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  Speaker 3: a trip that took them Winnipeg, Minnesota, Chicago, go back
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  Speaker 3: to South Florida, play one game, and then go to St.
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  Speaker 4: Louis.
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  Speaker 3: So they I think they got a scheduling break there
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  Speaker 3: because that felt like a road game for the Panthers.
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  Speaker 2: We we've talked about v Tech Banachik in the past,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like whether or not he's playing up to
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  Speaker 2: the standard that they need to be able to maintain
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  Speaker 2: in the rare rest that Veggie gets.
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  Speaker 4: And he gave up three.
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  Speaker 2: Goals last night, but ultimately it's a win, only his
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  Speaker 2: third win of the year in the mammoth goal.
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  Speaker 4: But what do you think of his performance against Florida?
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  Speaker 3: Very solid. Biggest thing in that game. Oh see, and
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  Speaker 3: VTech has been in some tough situations this year. Eight
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  Speaker 3: of his thirteen starts have been in some kind of
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  Speaker 3: back to back for Utai the first game or second game.
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  Speaker 3: Seven of his thirteen starts have come in the second
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  Speaker 3: half of a back to back, So, you know, we
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  Speaker 3: talked about, you know, with some mental mistakes, as Utah
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  Speaker 3: have been perfect in front of him. No, the biggest
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  Speaker 3: thing last night was VTech being able to get settled
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  Speaker 3: in to the game. He's had three starts this year
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  Speaker 3: where he's given up a goal in the first three minutes,
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  Speaker 3: you're behind, and then you're playing a completely different style.
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  Speaker 3: Really the rest of the way to try and erase
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  Speaker 3: the deficit and you're in a minus one. So he
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  Speaker 3: made two saves early, and I really felt sorry for
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  Speaker 3: him that he gave up that goal with fifteen seconds left,
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  Speaker 3: because stopping, you know, twenty five of twenty eight doesn't
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  Speaker 3: look as good as or twenty seven to thirty by
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  Speaker 3: the time it is all said and done with, doesn't
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  Speaker 3: look as good as stopping twenty seven out of twenty nine.
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  Speaker 3: But led in three goals, Mammoth got the win. Everybody
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  Speaker 3: was happy for VTech. His first time this year, they've
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  Speaker 3: gotten him some goal support. First time in thirteen starts,
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  Speaker 3: they've got him four goals. It had been three or
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  Speaker 3: less and usually zero one or two when he's been starting,
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  Speaker 3: So the Mammoth were happy. He was happy as he
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  Speaker 3: returned to Florida where he hoisted that Stanley Cup last
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  Speaker 3: June and got his first win since October twenty sixth
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  Speaker 3: against his former team and a big win for the
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  Speaker 3: Mammoth to take two of the first three.
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  Speaker 2: Now, this is a behind the scenes type question, but
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  Speaker 2: the the NHL has passed off disciplinary duties to the
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  Speaker 2: Department of Player Safety helped me put this in perspective
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  Speaker 2: for the new fan. So supplemental discipline for the violation
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  Speaker 2: of league rules is now going to be handled by
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  Speaker 2: the Department of Player Safety, which has been talking They've
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  Speaker 2: been handling like physical infractions in the past.
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  Speaker 4: But is this a significant change. I think it's just.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of a kind of an expansion of their their
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  Speaker 3: current role. Just just a little more ownership of it,
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  Speaker 3: a little less by committee, just some streamlining for for
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  Speaker 3: a job that they they basically do already, is how
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  Speaker 3: I take it.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're wondering how this is different than before,
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  Speaker 2: So if you if you threw in like illegal check
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  Speaker 2: in the past that resulted in an injury, the Department
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  Speaker 2: of Player Safety was going to handle the discipline for that,
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  Speaker 2: And that makes a lot of sense. All the other
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  Speaker 2: league policies, the language and Jersey got hit with the
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  Speaker 2: lip reader thing, the inappropriate gestures of uniform violations, things
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  Speaker 2: like that they were it was all previously handled by
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  Speaker 2: a vice president of the league. It was like a
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  Speaker 2: sort of unilateral type conversation thing. And now now the
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  Speaker 2: Player Safety Committee is going to handle all those So,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, bringing more under the umbrella of what
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  Speaker 2: they're already doing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they do have some former players in that department.
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  Speaker 3: George Paros, Uh, the big Uh, the guy who played
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  Speaker 3: for the Ducks for for a number of years involved
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  Speaker 3: in that. And they like to put put players in,
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  Speaker 3: you know, league positions like that. They like to put
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  Speaker 3: players as linesman is referees just for the the aspect
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  Speaker 3: of those guys have been in locker rooms. Those guys
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  Speaker 3: have been on the ice, and I think the NHL
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  Speaker 3: has done a good job of getting relatable people into
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  Speaker 3: positions both on the ice and off the ice to
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  Speaker 3: manage things.
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  Speaker 2: Who is, in your mind, the best American born NHL
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  Speaker 2: player ever? Hmm, I asked this question. Yeah, well, I
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  Speaker 2: give you time to deliberate, because Patrick Kin has tied
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  Speaker 2: Mike Madonno for the points record by an American born player,
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  Speaker 2: and he's thirty seven, so he's in the twilight of
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  Speaker 2: his career and all that stuff. But you know, both
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  Speaker 2: of those names now synonymous with some really good years
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  Speaker 2: of American hockey, both in the NHL obviously and their
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  Speaker 2: representation of Team USA. But you know, we talk about
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  Speaker 2: the greatest to ever play the game, and a lot
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  Speaker 2: of times it's stacked up with Canadians for obvious reasons.
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  Speaker 2: You talk about some of the great goaltenders and they're
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  Speaker 2: either Canadian or they're Swedish or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: So who's the best American NHLR.
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  Speaker 3: So you mentioned Mike Madonno, Patrick Kane got Jeremy Ronick
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  Speaker 3: had over five hundred goals currently, how about a player
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  Speaker 3: like Austin Matthews with Toronto ironically enough, a kid that
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: grew up in Arizona and California as one of the
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  Speaker 3: faces of of hockey and in Canada. You know, we
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  Speaker 3: got Clayton Keller out of the Saint Louis area, gonna
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  Speaker 3: be representing TBOSA and so happy for Clayton because he's
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  Speaker 3: just so proud and he's been working for that.
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  Speaker 4: That's really cool for forever.
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  Speaker 3: But when you say, uh, you say Austin Matthews, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think you're too far off of Clayton Keller. Look
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  Speaker 3: looking down the list. So I like Patrick Kane. Now
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  Speaker 3: he's kind of been able to, you know, have a
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  Speaker 3: two point zero version of his career after those three
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  Speaker 3: seasons winning Stanley Cups with the Chicago and then and
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  Speaker 3: they kind of went to the rebuild and he's he's
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  Speaker 3: gone on to Detroit and had been a big part
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  Speaker 3: of that team that hasn't made the playoffs in over
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  Speaker 3: a decade to now, you know, it looks like they'll
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  Speaker 3: be back this year. Not only that, but they've been
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  Speaker 3: leading the Atlantic Division for for most of the season
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  Speaker 3: and and Kane's had a had a great couple of
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  Speaker 3: years there in Detroit.
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  Speaker 2: How much longer is this man a team gonna have
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: to be without Logan Kooley. Sounds like his recovery's going
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  Speaker 2: very well.
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  Speaker 3: You know what, But he was on the ice skating
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  Speaker 3: in a non contact jersey at morning skate on Monday.
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  Speaker 3: So that keeps us hovering in the neighborhood of what
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  Speaker 3: Bill Armstrong has said around the Olympic break, and it
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  Speaker 3: sounded lately like right after the Olympic break. How about
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  Speaker 3: last night playing without Logan Cooley and Dylan Gunther for
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  Speaker 3: just the third time ever, wow, and picking up a
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  Speaker 3: win in Florida in Florida, scoring four goals.
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  Speaker 4: How about this for.
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  Speaker 3: The mammothoc going back to mid December, they're seven and
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  Speaker 3: one after a loss, and they've scored over four goals
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  Speaker 3: a game in those contests. We saw a nice response
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  Speaker 3: last night, but that's kind of been the body of
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  Speaker 3: work that Utah has been laying out here over the
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  Speaker 3: last month and a half.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, before I let you go, I'm gonna let
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  Speaker 2: you know something because you mentioned the break. So when
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  Speaker 2: the Olympics are part of the Sean O'Connell Show, what
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  Speaker 2: we do is we assign particular experts in the sports.
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  Speaker 2: Hockey would be too easy for you to be our
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  Speaker 2: Olympic hockey correspondent, because we're naturally going to make you
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  Speaker 2: that sure. So you have the opportunity to choose another
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  Speaker 2: Olympic discipline. You're the first person so none have been claimed,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: and you get to be my Olympic expert in curling,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: ski jumping, whatever it is, so that each time while
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: the Olympics are going on we have a discussion, you're
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: going to give us an update on that particular sport
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: as well. You can choose now, you can deliberate and
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: text me, you can let us know whenever. But that
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: is a duty that you're going to be assigned, whether
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: you like it or not.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, alpine skiing, okay, downhill skiing, downhill skiing.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: I love to ski, all right, love watching the skiing,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: but the Nordic skiing the cross country skiing.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I love to cross country ski too. So if you
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: get somebody that says alpine skiing, you're like, well, you
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: kind of got a guy, but he also cross country skis,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: so you can have that.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: I'll take Nordic.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, your cross country skiing updates will be
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: brought to you by it.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Does that mean biathlon also? No, just the skiing, not
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: the archery and stuff like that.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Just you don't the athlon in the winter Olympics is
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: cross country skiing and shooting a rifle?
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Right, isn't that what it is? Rifle or bow and
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: arrow something like that. It's like it's such a weird mix.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it makes sense from like a
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: if you live in Finland and you are out in
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: the Lapland area, that's just your life. You've just cross
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: country ski, find a reindeer, shoot it, bring it back,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: and they turn it into an Olympic sport.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: It's wild.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just I'm just a cross country skier through
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: the meadows, through the mountains.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't stop to do archer.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: So in addition to your hockey expertise, we will lean
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: on your Nordic skiing, Uh expertise.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: That sounds great, perfect, sounds fun.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Our Winter Olympics Nordic Skiing correspondent and Hockey UTAH Mammoth Insider,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Adrian Denny.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: That has a great ring to it. Perfect all right,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: it's it's you know. Oh see, as you know, as
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: days go on and years go on, professionally, you gotta
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: keep evolving absolutely, or you're out the door. You're done
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: and you can't find another gig.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: If so, if you're doing the same thing over and over,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: if you don't expand your horizons to Nordic skiing, I mean, what.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Chance do you have. Yeah, I'm in all right, love it.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Thanks for coming in as always, Thanks for having me, buddy.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: That's Adrian Denny. Are you Tah Mammoth Insider?
• 21:46
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