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Raquel Justice on Being a “Nepo Baby” and Making It in Hollywood | Born to the Game Podcast · Born To The Game Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Oh, my dad's calling back.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, he's golfing. I'm on a podcast right now.
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  Speaker 2: What's the question? Oh, to describe.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Ness. I'm on a podcast and they had
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  Speaker 1: a question.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Born to the Game, produced by ARCA Media
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  Speaker 2: Group in collaboration with Inflection Network and distributed through iHeartMedia.
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  Speaker 2: This is a space for the children and families of
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  Speaker 2: iconic athletes, entertainers, and cultural figures share the truth behind legacy.
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  Speaker 2: Not just what their families did, but who they were
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  Speaker 2: and how that legacy continues. Her father, David Justice, spent
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  Speaker 2: 14 seasons in Major League Baseball. He's a three-time MLB All-Star,
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  Speaker 2: a two-time Silver Slugger, 1990 National League Rookie of the Year,
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  Speaker 2: two-time World Series champion, 2000 ALCS MVP, and a member
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  Speaker 2: of the Atlanta Braves Hall of Fame. But today, we're
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  Speaker 2: getting to know Raquel Justice. Woo, more. Raquel has been
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  Speaker 2: building a career in a name of her own as
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  Speaker 2: an actress, with credits including Andy Mack, One Day at
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  Speaker 2: a Time, Black-ish, Quantum Leap, and most recently, Dexter Originalson.
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  Speaker 2: But there's also so much more to her than what
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  Speaker 2: we see on the screen. Today, we're talking about family,
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  Speaker 2: growing up with a justice name, pressure, identity, her love
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  Speaker 2: of acting and storytelling, finding her own purpose, and what
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  Speaker 2: it looks like to honor the legacy you were born
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  Speaker 2: into while creating one that is completely your own. Raquel Justice!
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  Speaker 1: Welcome!
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  Speaker 2: And born to the game! Welcome, welcome! Thank you for
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  Speaker 2: having me. Oh my gosh, I don't want to jinx it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to jinx it. Oh my gosh. Because
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  Speaker 2: there were like two of us. I was really laughing.
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  Speaker 1: What is a silver slug?
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  Speaker 2: Did you even know? I mean, it's very important, Raquel.
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  Speaker 1: I know he was in the Hall of Fame. I
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  Speaker 1: know he's a bobblehead.
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  Speaker 2: And you're reading it like, wait, he's a bobblehead? I
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  Speaker 2: think I had his bobblehead, actually.
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  Speaker 1: Did you really?
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  Speaker 2: I think I did. My brother is a huge David
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  Speaker 2: Justice fan, so he's going to probably... He'll love to
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  Speaker 2: hear that. Yes, yes, yes. You said my dad would
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  Speaker 2: love to hear that. Isn't that so funny?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: They love to hear when people... No, literally.
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  Speaker 1: I remember, like, so many times he'd just sit us
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  Speaker 1: out on the couch and just pull up YouTube and
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  Speaker 1: just be like, all right, right here, I did the... Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm 12.
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  Speaker 2: And you're like, I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: I don't... Yeah, I'm, like, trying to read. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, no, for sure. I love that. That
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  Speaker 2: sounds super cool. Well, we are so excited to have
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  Speaker 2: you join us. Thank you. You're so beautiful. So beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: And.
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  Speaker 2: We can't wait to get to know you. Not just
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  Speaker 2: being David Justice's daughter. We got Raquel, baby. That's way cooler.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. But before we dive into that,
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  Speaker 2: just take us back to the family, your childhood. What
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  Speaker 2: was it like growing up? In the Justice household. With
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  Speaker 2: a silver slugger. Yeah, like, ugh, so cool. What was it?
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  Speaker 2: ALS 2000.
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  Speaker 1: Like, again, like, don't know any of that. Like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think I've ever heard that before. No, it was crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It was insane. Mostly because, honestly, not even because he's
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  Speaker 1: David Justice, because I have so many cousins. I have
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  Speaker 1: such a big family. We are the house that everyone
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  Speaker 1: flocks to. And my parents trusted me a lot because
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  Speaker 1: I was a very good daughter.
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  Speaker 2: Of course.
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  Speaker 1: I got all my stuff done. And what I did
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  Speaker 1: in my free time was read. So they were like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: she's like she's cool. So they just let me go
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  Speaker 1: off and do whatever. And I would be in like
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  Speaker 1: the craziest situations. Like I remember one time me and
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  Speaker 1: my cousin Gavin, we just thought it'd be like super
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  Speaker 1: cool to try to make like a parachute. with like
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  Speaker 1: our sheets and we have a little tower at my
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  Speaker 1: house and we would like, we went to the top
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  Speaker 1: of it, we had the sheets, we had it all
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  Speaker 1: ready to go and I was about to be like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Gavin, jump, let's see if it works and
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  Speaker 1: my abuelo, he came running around the side of the
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  Speaker 1: house and he was like, get down from there, like
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  Speaker 1: yelling at us, like, It was so crazy. But that's
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  Speaker 1: the type of stuff that we were on. So y'all
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  Speaker 1: didn't jump?
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  Speaker 2: We didn't jump. We were trying to kill y'all. Literally.
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  Speaker 2: So what was the results?
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  Speaker 1: The results were, like, what.
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  Speaker 2: Could have been. Oh, my gosh. Like, what could have been?
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  Speaker 1: Because, like, it could have worked. I think it would
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  Speaker 1: have worked.
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  Speaker 2: She said it could have worked. It could have worked.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how long was the drop down?
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  Speaker 1: It was, like, 20 feet.
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  Speaker 2: Girl. Raquel.
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  Speaker 1: No, it was bad. It was bad. But, like, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I really, really, like, commend my grandparents and my parents because...
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  Speaker 1: there was a lot of us. Like, at any given point,
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  Speaker 1: there's probably eight kids in the house plus our friends.
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  Speaker 1: And my cousin's friends, they'll come too. Like, it was
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  Speaker 1: really fun to grow up in that house. Five dogs.
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  Speaker 1: We were a big animal family too. So we had like,
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  Speaker 1: bearded dragons and geckos and snakes and, like, boa constrictors and, like, no, seriously. Oh.
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  Speaker 1: And the boa constrictor one time, he escaped. Girl, no.
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  Speaker 1: Couldn't find him for, like, four days. Oh. My mom's bathroom. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: That happens to me with the bearded dragon. Like, I
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  Speaker 2: was netting and they lost him. His name was Spike.
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  Speaker 2: They lost him. They took him out of his cage
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  Speaker 2: and they couldn't find him. And I was like, we're
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  Speaker 2: not going to sleep until we find him. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Also, I'm leaving.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Exactly. We found him after two hours, but.
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  Speaker 1: I had two hamsters I named Rihanna and Beyonce. Oh. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: of course. And they would fight a lot, but they
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  Speaker 1: got out one time and I couldn't find them for
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  Speaker 1: a week. And so I just came to the conclusion, like,
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  Speaker 1: they're gone. Like, they didn't eat for a week. And
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  Speaker 1: we found one of them in the laundry room and
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  Speaker 1: then one of them in the fireplace. And they were alive.
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  Speaker 1: They were both alive and kicking, so I put them
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  Speaker 1: back in their cage. And then the next morning, I
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  Speaker 1: woke up, and Rihanna had killed Beyonce.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God!
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  Speaker 1: Rihanna, they had fought to the death. I am.
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  Speaker 2: My wig is on the floor. No, literally. Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like 11. She... I was like, what? But how
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  Speaker 1: did she kill it? How did she go and kill
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  Speaker 1: the queen? No, that's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: She said, how is she going to kill the queen?
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  Speaker 1: Goodbye. Like, where's the beehive? Like, they're going to be
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  Speaker 1: real upset.
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  Speaker 2: The beehive is going to be watching this live. I
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  Speaker 2: got beef with it.
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  Speaker 1: And so I'm holding, like, Rihanna later that day in
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  Speaker 1: my hands in the kitchen. And, like, I didn't tell
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  Speaker 1: my parents yet that, like, she killed Beyonce because I
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  Speaker 1: was going through grief, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's traumatic.
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  Speaker 1: Well, of course. And so I'm sitting in the kitchen
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  Speaker 1: and I'm just looking at her and then she seizes
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  Speaker 1: out in my hands.
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  Speaker 2: No. And she dies.
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  Speaker 1: Raquel.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but, like. Again, if this is triggering, we don't
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  Speaker 2: have to go down that route. But how does a
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  Speaker 2: hamster kill another hamster?
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's a good question. I don't know. There's a
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  Speaker 1: thing with hamsters. I feel like they must have fought.
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  Speaker 1: They bit each other? Maybe. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: And there's a thing with hamsters where that's the one
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  Speaker 1: animal you get if you want them to have a
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  Speaker 1: traumatic death, basically. Because they all die in traumatic ways. What?
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  Speaker 1: Talk to anybody who's ever owned a hamster as a kid.
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  Speaker 1: they'll literally like, they'd all die in the craziest ways.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's insane. And so, I mean, I think I
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  Speaker 1: have one of the best stories of that. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how we got on like dead hamsters, but it
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  Speaker 1: was crazy. Lots of animals, lots of cousins, lots of personalities.
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  Speaker 1: We're all very strong personalities. Every single person in my family,
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  Speaker 1: I think like, I think we're all very, very, if
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  Speaker 1: you meet all of us, I always tell people beforehand,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm really excited for you to meet
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  Speaker 1: my family, but we're all very strong. personalities so it's
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  Speaker 1: like we're all like kind of characters i'd like to
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  Speaker 1: not warn but like give a heads up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you know yeah just try to but it just
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  Speaker 2: seems like it was so much good energy it was
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  Speaker 2: and is that why you're the way you are today
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  Speaker 2: i think.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah i definitely think so i think my parents
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  Speaker 1: trusting me enough i tricked them really well like um
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  Speaker 1: to be able to do like whatever i wanted around
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  Speaker 1: the house like i had a really big sense of
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  Speaker 1: responsibility too as like since i was a very little
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  Speaker 1: kid I never wanted to do bad. Like I never
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  Speaker 1: did any like of the normal teenage things to like
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  Speaker 1: try to like act out. I feel like I was
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  Speaker 1: pretty boring. I would literally just stay inside. And like
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  Speaker 1: I remember when COVID happened, I like would read like
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  Speaker 1: one book at night just to like I would just
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  Speaker 1: read and read and read and I would do with
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  Speaker 1: my dogs and. My grandparents are, like, a really big, formative, like,
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  Speaker 1: figure in my life. Like, they live with us.
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  Speaker 2: Is dad's side or mom's side?
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  Speaker 1: Mom's side.
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  Speaker 2: I love that multi-generational household. You don't do that anymore. No.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it's so important, like, learning from them
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  Speaker 1: growing up. Also, I think, like, older people have so
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  Speaker 1: much wisdom. And just seeing my abuela, she looks like me.
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  Speaker 1: Even though she's not black, she's Mexican, we have the
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  Speaker 1: same face. When people are like, who do you look like?
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  Speaker 1: Your mom or your dad? I'm like, no, my grandma.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I look like. I have her nose, her cheeks, everything.
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  Speaker 2: She's beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: She's gorgeous. They grew up super, super poor and super...
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  Speaker 1: They're very progressive people. Catholic like diehards like but they're
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  Speaker 1: so progressive like sometimes I used to worry like I
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  Speaker 1: wonder you know like I grew up in like the
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  Speaker 1: Catholic Church so like there's like extremes on both sides
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  Speaker 1: but to see like older people grow up like in
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  Speaker 1: Mexico come to like America like I don't know it's
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  Speaker 1: like so beautiful and I think that's what gave me
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  Speaker 1: my sense of like I'm a big I'm a big giver,
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  Speaker 1: but that's because of my abuela. Like, I really say
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  Speaker 1: it's because of her. Like, she had no dolls growing up.
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  Speaker 1: She had no, they got no treats growing up. They
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  Speaker 1: both have 12, at least 12 siblings each.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Like, they grew up very poor. So then, you know,
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  Speaker 1: she got like one doll one time and she gave
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  Speaker 1: it away the same day to like the little girl
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  Speaker 1: in her neighborhood. So I'm like, I'm so, I'm so like,
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  Speaker 1: privileged so I tried as much as I can to
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  Speaker 1: just like give give it everyone's like oh that's so
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  Speaker 1: sweet I'm like no it's not me.
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  Speaker 2: It's her like it's her she raised you yeah and
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  Speaker 2: she's grounded you yeah you come off you're very.
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  Speaker 1: Grounded I would feel like I would be disrespecting her
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  Speaker 1: because of how she raised us and you know they're
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  Speaker 1: still like the most youthful people like my brother has
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  Speaker 1: a baby and she lives in the house too so
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  Speaker 1: we've got like four generations in the house that's cool
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  Speaker 1: yeah and so like my abuela with my niece and
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  Speaker 1: they're like and my well i was like it's her
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  Speaker 1: favorite person like he's like the most incredible man so
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  Speaker 1: yeah i honestly like i wanted to touch on that
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  Speaker 1: when you mentioned my growing up because they're such a
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  Speaker 1: big part of.
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  Speaker 2: It wow they're awesome that's really cool that's really really
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  Speaker 2: cool and it's great to have that sense of grounding
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  Speaker 2: especially in like the entertainment and yes because it's It's
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  Speaker 2: not as stable. So superficial. Yeah, it can be superficial
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  Speaker 2: at times, but just having that centerpiece to hold it together.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's also why I never felt like our
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  Speaker 1: family was, I didn't even think we were like influential
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  Speaker 1: at all. Because I mean, I was like, my cousins
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  Speaker 1: don't let me get away with anything. They don't care
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  Speaker 1: that I act. They don't care what I do, where
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  Speaker 1: I live. They literally like, they bully me so bad.
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  Speaker 1: I remember I tried to do karate once. I stopped
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  Speaker 1: after two lessons. I still never hear the end of
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  Speaker 1: it because the karate man wanted to take a video
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  Speaker 1: of me doing it and I was making the sounds.
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  Speaker 1: Every time my cousins see me, they're like, ha, ha.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I just want to humble you. I'm literally
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  Speaker 2: all right.
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  Speaker 1: It's fine, whatever. It doesn't even matter.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: So they're very, yeah. Such a beautiful dynamic.
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  Speaker 2: It's great, but it sets you apart, though. It sets
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  Speaker 2: you apart, your personality, and what you bring to the
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  Speaker 2: industry to me. I mean, I think that's a huge
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  Speaker 2: part of it. Do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it definitely feels like, even though I do act,
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  Speaker 1: I've never really felt like I was... any like different
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  Speaker 1: if anything I still feel like I'm trying to like
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  Speaker 1: almost like prove myself in a way because I feel
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  Speaker 1: so normal with my family and like I am normal
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  Speaker 1: I'm so normal and I'm like super weird and like
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't I don't know I had no acting friends
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  Speaker 1: like for the longest time like everyone who was asking
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  Speaker 1: me what it's like being in the industry like that
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  Speaker 1: I'm like I don't really know like I know what
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  Speaker 1: it's like to love my craft and I know what
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  Speaker 1: it's like to work on a set but I don't
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  Speaker 1: really know like the same as a child actor who
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  Speaker 1: was only around the industry and the entertainment business and
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  Speaker 1: only had acting friends and only had... And I think
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  Speaker 1: that does help me a lot when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: just how I enter the world, especially since I was
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  Speaker 1: acting as a child. I still had such a normal childhood.
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  Speaker 2: Childhood, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Like, the normalest childhood.
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  Speaker 2: And also your dad is David Justice, like, one of
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  Speaker 2: the most famous baseball players on the planet. And to
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  Speaker 2: piggyback off of that. So when did you... know or
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  Speaker 2: understand the impact that your dad had? When did you
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  Speaker 2: know that dad was famous, that he was this MLB player?
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  Speaker 2: So walk us through that realization.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I knew he was somebody. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I ever stopped to think about it any farther than like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you probably I guess you played baseball. I never thought
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  Speaker 1: to keep going because he was just a dad. I
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  Speaker 1: remember we have this bat in my house. It's like
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  Speaker 1: a broken bat right down the middle. And I just
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  Speaker 1: know that growing up, I just knew that that was
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  Speaker 1: the bat that my dad broke when he hit a ball.
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  Speaker 1: And so that didn't even equate to me. That's a
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  Speaker 1: really cool thing to do. So I didn't really think
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  Speaker 1: about it. And I remember every year we'd go to
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  Speaker 1: spring training and we'd be going to these like events
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  Speaker 1: and these things in like Atlanta, in Florida. And for me,
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  Speaker 1: it was just like the most fun time with my
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  Speaker 1: mom and my brother and like going to water parks
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  Speaker 1: and doing tie-dye t-shirts and picking fruits off trees. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it really settled in until my dad
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  Speaker 1: was taking me back to school shopping. And my dad
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  Speaker 1: has this, I just want to throw this in there.
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  Speaker 1: He has this like, he had this really beautiful mentality
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  Speaker 1: for me growing up that I mean, I loved because
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  Speaker 1: I'm like the girliest of girlies. But he told me
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  Speaker 1: that if it's books... makeup or for nails, he'll cover
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  Speaker 1: it all no matter what.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, look, thank you, Mr. Justice.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, what do you mean he'll cover it?
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  Speaker 1: He forgot about that promise now, but it worked for
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  Speaker 1: a long time.
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  Speaker 2: It's on camera now.
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  Speaker 1: He was like, books are for your enrichment, makeup and nails.
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  Speaker 1: You're you. You should have that. And so that just
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  Speaker 1: reminded me because he would always take me back to
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  Speaker 1: school shopping, him and my mom, and they would let me,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a Gemini, so I change every Every year I
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: need a new wardrobe. My, my room, my room changes.
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  Speaker 2: Is that like a standard Gemini traits?
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  Speaker 1: I'm very, yeah. I'm very like, um, my friends have
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  Speaker 1: this saying that I, Raquel will look physically, physically different.
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  Speaker 1: My face will look physically different every year. Like I don't,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know what I look like to be
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  Speaker 1: honest because every photo that I have of myself looks
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  Speaker 1: so different. Okay. So I shift a lot and my
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  Speaker 1: parents have always, like I've gone through four room changes. They,
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  Speaker 1: they'll let me paint my walls. Like, They'll let me
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  Speaker 1: get in there with a brush.
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  Speaker 2: That is interesting.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and color swaths and, like, let me figure it out.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: But he took me to the mall, and we were
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: getting shoes, and this guy came up to him, and
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: he was like, are you David Justice? And I had
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: heard that before, and I was like, yeah. And he
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I am. And he was like, oh,
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: my God. And he pointed down to the dog he had,
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: and he was like, this is David Justice. Stop. He
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: was like, I named my dog after you.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: And you're like, a dog named David? I was like, what? Yeah, like,
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: a dog named David?
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but, like, imagine, like, David. Yeah, David, David.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: So that's how I knew. I'm like, okay, like, that's
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: how I knew. You must be somebody because the name you're, like,
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: animal after somebody. And the name isn't even something like, like,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: Hercules or something, yes. I don't know.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Even Bruce. Like, that's, like, a dog name, I guess. But, like,
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: it's David. Right. That's, like, such a human name.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: It made me laugh.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: So, and walking through, when he got into the Hall
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: of Fame and he was doing the whole thing, walking
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: through Atlanta and New York with him.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Like, we went to like a.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Little restaurant bar in New York when I was like 13.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: I was only there because I wanted to see Hamilton.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: So that was my whole idea of the trip. But
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: we couldn't even get through. I had never seen that before.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: I think growing up in Poway, I was so not
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: used to it. So you go to these hot spots
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: where he was so known and so like loved. And
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: I was like, you walk ahead of us.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: I don't want. So how did that make you feel?
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: It was honestly, like, fun.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it made me look at him like.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, you somebody. No, no, no. Okay, period. Okay, period.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: You got a little juice. Well, okay.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I guess you're a little cooler now.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: But, again, I didn't, I don't know, I did not think,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: I was always in my own world. Like, I literally
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: only existed here. So, however it fit into my little world,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: that's just what I thought about it. It made me
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: feel a little bit like, We have a little bit
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: of a spotlight on us, especially because before I'd even
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: before I go to school every day, like my abuela
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: would pull me aside first and she'd do like the
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: sign of a cross. Like every time I leave her,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: she goes here, here, here. She'll pray over me. And
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: then she'll say, you know, like you carry you carry
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: us everywhere you go. And like my dad, too, he'll
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: just tell me like, you know, you carry that justice
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: name everywhere you go, no matter like what situation you're in.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: at a lunch table, at a dinner table, at an event,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: at like a sleepover, literally like the simplest things. Don't
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: act crazy on the internet. Don't take crazy photos. Don't like,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: everything was very, you, and since I'm lucky enough to
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: know that I wanted to be an actress since I
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: was 11, he also would be like, you are gonna,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: you're gonna do great things. So don't, you need to
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: act accordingly. You need to carry us with like respect
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: and like, That really settled into me really young. And
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: they only had to tell me like a few times.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Like that never left, it still has never left my brain.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: So I think that's more what it did for me. Yeah.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: So what do fans see when they look at David Justice?
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: And who's the dad that you and your family know
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: at home?
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay. That's a good question actually. I
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: think when they see him, he's very like, he's so charismatic. Mm-hmm.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: He's very funny. Anytime we're at a family dinner with
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: other people, like he's going to command the table. He
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: taught me how to talk to people. He taught me
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: how to like enter the world. So, yeah, I think
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: he's very he's very outspoken at.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Home.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: He's not different at all. But the difference is, is
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: that like as I've grown, I can almost like I
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: explain this. He always says that me and him have
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: the same brain. Like, out of all his kids, like,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: me and him have the same brain. So, like, not
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: saying we're, like, the most alike, but our brains are
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: the same. Like, they work the same. And so I
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: think the difference really is, like, when it comes to me,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: we've had so many debates over the years. Like, I'm
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: the person who's going to sit across from him, and
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: we're going to go back and forth.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: That's me and my dad.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: For, like, an hour. Yes. we both are like, you're
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: not going to get me because I know what you're thinking.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: And now I'm going to go around that. And it's
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: like this constant, like a war of minds. And it's
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: really fun, honestly, like to me sometimes, like to just,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: he's always laughing at the party at any Christmas party.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: His friends will like tell my mom, like, oh, we
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: love when Raquel's around because like she'll let David have it. Like,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: and it's like, I do, but obviously in a very
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: loving way. It's not serious, but he's so that, and
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I'm so this.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: So yeah.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I'm always poking at him, making fun of him, and
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: he has to respect it because he's like, that's all me.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: That's all me.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: It's me.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Even the jokes I make are him. And then
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I heard him make a joke the other day, and
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that was actually kind of funny.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: And you're like, no, literally, that was good.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: That was a good joke. That's hilarious. So if you
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: could describe your relationship with dad in one word, what
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: would you do?
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Eventful.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Eventful, yeah.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, even like, we're both very adventurous. Like, my
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: dad is like me in really a lot of ways. Like,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: with his mom too, like, their relationship, he understands the
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: way that I am in a lot of ways. He
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: kind of has just let me, flourish now. Like he'll
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: tell me, you know, you're 22 now. So I'm not
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: here to get you in trouble. I'm not here to whatever.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I'm just here to support you when you need me.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: So go off into the world. And I'm a big traveler.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I'm a big solo person. Like I love my people.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: I love my friends, my family. But sometimes I cannot
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: call you for a week. It just won't happen for me. Oh, okay.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I, like, I get so in my world. I
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: have such, like, I don't know. I'm very, I have
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: so many people who I love and who would probably
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: love to, like, talk to me all the time. But
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: if I talked to every single one, I wouldn't be
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: able to.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: You'd be drained.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't even have time to think. I just, I'm
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: so lucky I have such a big circle. Like, all
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: my cousins I'm so close with. And, like, a huge
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Mexican family that I'm so close with. So many friends
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: I'm so close with. It's, like. My dad has a
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: really great understanding that because I don't call him for
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: a certain amount of days does not mean the love
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: is lost. He gives me a lot of grace and
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: it makes it so easy to call him. And so
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: easy to FaceTime him. Yeah, and then when we do,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: we talk for like 40 minutes. Yeah, so I will
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: say that I really appreciate that about him. He understands
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: when I need space, it's nothing personal.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Well, you said you're twins. We are.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: You're twins. Yeah, he told me, he was like, I
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: used to just go off and not come home for
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: a certain amount of time. And I'm like, that's kind
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: of me. I lived in Europe for seven months, and
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: it was the most amazing experience ever. And they only
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: came to visit like once. And that was like cool
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: for us. He was like, you're out here in the world.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Just keep trying to do your thing. And he instilled
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: a very strong sense of confidence in me too. That's beautiful.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: So what's one piece of advice before we get into
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: the fishbowl that you have taken from your dad? That
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: he's giving you a lesson, a life lesson, anything. I
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: actually have it.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I have it off the bat because this is a
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: good one.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: So, well... First off, off the bat, he's told me
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: since I was literally three, men are purses. Which is like,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: let me explain this. Let me explain this. Basically saying,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: he's never let me ever believe that I've ever needed anybody. Anybody.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: He has always been like, you are the prize. You
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: are so full in your own self, in your own identity.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: And he was like, if anything, they'll probably just bring
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: stuff you may not want. So men are purses. They're like,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: he was like, you're going to have a purse you like.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: And then if you don't like it anymore, there's going
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: to be another purse. You can go buy another purse.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Like he's never made me feel like I needed anybody.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: And I think that's maybe why I didn't even start
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: dating until I was like 18. And yeah. And I,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: and I, I don't really accept any type of craziness.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: And sometimes I need to have a little bit more
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: patience actually, because I'm like, Like, I don't understand why
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: you're acting like that. But then I'm like, okay, we're
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: so young. So I try to have a little bit
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: more patience. But, yeah, I've just never felt like I
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: had to have anybody to be fool. But the piece
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: of advice that he gave me that I really love,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: it was there's three types of people in the world,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: three types of groups in the world. There's a group
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: who's going to love you no matter what, who's going
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: to ride for you no matter what. You're never going
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: to have to, like, question their support. And he was like,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: that's me, your mom, your family, your closest friends. Um,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: and like even like supporters who just really want to
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: see you do good. There's going to be some people
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: who just genuinely want to see you do good. And
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: then he was like, and there's going to be one
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: group who just never wants to see you do good.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: He was like, there's, there's nothing you can do. There's
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: no amount of good that you can do to sway them.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: There's no amount of, you know, convincing or charisma or
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: they're just not going to want to like you. And
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: so they won't. And he was like, and then with those,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: you literally just let them not like you. Like, just
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: let them go. And then the third are the people
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: who are on the fence. And you win them over
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: by just being you. Like, you don't do anything extra.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: You just show up in the world as, like, a
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: good person. And those people will love you. And if
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: they choose not to, then they just fall into the
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: second portion. So that's never really made me, like, a
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: people pleaser.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I think I love.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I love people and I love my people and I
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: love being kind. But when people don't like me and
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: it happens, honestly, like when he said it helped me
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: so much because sometimes people just won't like you. And
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I used to struggle with wondering, like, what did I do?
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: What did I do? And then you realize, oh, it's
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: not even about me. It's so not about me. So
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I now at my age, just graduating college, like I'm
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: so glad that that's so instilled in me because it
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: doesn't my energy is not being wasted on anything. you know,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: like insecurity on that. It just kind of is what
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Woo! I needed to hear that. Okay, we all need
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: to hear that. Look, I'm like, wow. Great piece of advice.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Very good. Because I'm like, I wish I... Men are purses.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Men are purses. And then even categorizing people because we
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: talked about this before. We have been the queens of people-pleasing.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: And just to even break that.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: As a woman, I think you're already trained.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: It's so natural. But to reverse it, which is why
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: it's good that it's been instilled in you early. To
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: reverse that takes practice. It takes therapy because you have
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: to unpack why you got to that point. So I'm
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: so happy to hear that your dad has already just.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got some. He had some great.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: He had some great gems. Look, Mr. Justice. We'd be
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: driving somewhere. Thank you. Thanks, Dad. Okay, so we're going
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: to transition into the fishbowl.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I'm excited for this part.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Me too. Okay, so the reason why we have a fishbowl.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: A fishbowl is transparent. You can see what's inside. And
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: when we think about legacy, so much of it is
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: viewed from the outside, right? The name, the success, the accomplishments,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: but there's always more beneath the surface. The pressure, the purpose,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: the choices, the experiences that shape who we all become.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: So inside this bowl are different parts of the journey.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: And whatever you pull, we talk about.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Okay? Okay.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: And once it's out, it's out. So, Raquel, go ahead
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: and pick your first token, girl.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Yay, yay, yay.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Let's see what we got. I love that you're not looking.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I know. Yes.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Got my first one.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: You got it?
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Let's see what we got.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Hot takes.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Hot takes. This is Mariah's favorite. This is fun. All right.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: You got hot takes? Okay. I got hot takes, but
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: we got to set the stage.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Okay. God, I'm trying to think of a hot take.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Because we got to... No, no. I'm a... Ask you,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: and then we're gonna either agree, disagree, or it's complicated, okay?
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: What agree? Yeah, because sometimes it is complicated.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: It can be complicated. It's not black and white. We
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: don't know. We can't just agree or disagree. You know,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: there's a whole lot. I love hot takes. Let's see. Okay,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: so you pulled hot takes. All right, so we all
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: have agree, disagree. It's complicated, right?
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: So let's do our first hot take statement. Sometimes your
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: last name can open the door, but make it harder
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: to prove you belong in the room. It can open
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: the door, you being David Justice's daughter, but it makes
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: it harder for you to prove that you belong because
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: people automatically assume that you don't belong. You agree?
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Agree and it's complete. All right. So explain.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Agree, because I definitely feel like it's another, your last
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: name and just like my family gives me a step up.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Just in the sense of like, they've been able to
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: support me. You know, like acting is expensive. And especially
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: when you're starting off so young. especially if you're not
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: booking super consistently. My mom used to drive me up
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: and down to LA like three times a week. Like
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: that's privileges that I got because my family supported me
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and was able to financially be there for me. And
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: just having him tied onto it, I remember growing up,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I would have like meetings and he would come to
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the meetings and then people on set loved him. So
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: then he'd sign some balls for them. And I didn't
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: get the job because of that, but it definitely felt like, okay,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: There's an element to this that definitely opens doors. But
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: the reason I'll say it's complicated is because it doesn't
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: open a whole lot of doors in my industry. Just
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: because he's in a different industry. I would say that
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: his doors would have opened more for my brothers who
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: followed his footsteps in the sports industry. Whereas for me...
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I actually don't like him to come to set until
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: I've established myself already a little bit. Like when I
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: did Dexter, it was my first time really being a
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: part of a bigger production as an adult, not a
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: little kid. So my mom was like, when can we come?
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like, not yet. In like two months.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: You said not yet.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: You can come visit, but I don't want anybody to know.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I'm sure if they looked it up, they could find out.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: But I don't want anybody to know. I don't want
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: anyone to, I don't know. It's because my parents, I mean,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: my dad is not going to be able to like
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: call a casting agent and be like, Let's get her
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: in the room. He has no sway, like, at all.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: So I'm still very much, like, I'm hustling. Like, I
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: train very hard. I'm in class so, so much. Like,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: four-hour classes, like, weekly. And I've definitely, oh, sorry. No, no,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: you're good. I definitely would say that his, like, last
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: name and what it did for our family was able to, like,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: even let me get this far in the sense of, like,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: financial support. But I would say that I got this
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: far in the industry by just working at it. Working
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: at it, yeah. So even though I am kind of
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: like a nepo baby.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I am.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: But it's weird because in my industry, not really. Because
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: he's not in it.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: He's not in it at all.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish it would.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Open more doors. You're like, yeah, for sure. I think
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: it's important for viewers to understand that. We can all
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: agree that, yes, it has opened up doors.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: But it can only get you to a certain spot. Yeah,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: what you do in the door is what matters.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Exactly. So that's great.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at this point, it's, yeah, it's me.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: You've earned, so all the accolades that we mentioned earlier,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: you earned your right to be part of those. Absolutely. Amazing. Okay,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: so let's do one more. Actors should keep more of
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: their personal lives private. Agree, disagree, or it's complicated.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: That's such a good one.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: It's a hot take.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Agree, disagree. I'm going to go with agree. I'm going
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: to say agree.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: But I do want to hear you're complicated because I
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: think we might have the same ideas.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: So because of how the industry is now, I think
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: people want to know who you are. When I say personal,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about business. I'm talking about who you
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: are as a person. So if a casting director wants
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: to go on your page or whatever and see– who
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Raquel is as a person outside of the actor part,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I think that is important. Telling your business and all
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff and being all, no. But have
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: a presence of who you are and just like other
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: things that you are. You know what I'm saying? If
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: you are, if you, you know, I don't know, Surf.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: You like animals. You know what I'm saying? Just who
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: you are. I think that serves a big... People want
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: to know, do I want to work with this person?
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Do I want her to be on my set for
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: four and a half months?
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: And I think that's a part of it.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I agree with that. I agree with that.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I'm going to hear your take before I say mine. Yeah.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think when I heard the question,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I more thought of like... More of like your intimate life.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I know that in this current day, social media is
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: such a thing. And we have a lot of influencers
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: now too who... they kind of open the doors to
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: fans having like a really like intimate part of you
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: because influencers are able, like that's what they do. They
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: let you into their everyday world, their struggles, all that stuff.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: And I think sometimes that gets kind of murky on
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: the line between like actors aren't influencers. So they don't,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, I don't feel like anyone owes anybody
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: any sort of, you know, about your personal life. And
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I think sometimes recent, like as of the recent days
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: and the recent social media craze, people feel entitled to
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: certain aspects of celebrities' lives. And I was going to
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: bring up the topic of like Zendaya and Tom Holland's
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: wedding because like, hey, I love you guys.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Love you guys.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Literally, I'm the biggest Spider-Man fan and Zendaya fan. I
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: literally had hope in acting because her name in Shake
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: It Up was Raquel. So I was like, make it work.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I'm going to make it. Make it work. Absolutely.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I'm next.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: And I love Tom Holland. I've literally watched Spider-Man Homecoming
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: 17 times in theaters. So, I'm not exaggerating. So anyways,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: love you guys. But their wedding, a lot of people
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: had a lot of problems with them not.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Sharing any photos.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's so not your business. Like, it's so
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: not your relationship. And I think that's where I'm like,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: maybe especially now, we have to be more... Like, we
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: have to hold our things more closer to our chest
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: and keep that for ourselves.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And I do agree. I think there's a balance.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: There definitely is. Life is about balance. I just, I
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: don't believe in the art of oversharing.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Because then what do you keep close to yourself? And
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: then too, do you, and again, you're an actress, you're
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: an actress. I'm not in this space. But when someone
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: does come to your Instagram and see something that they
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: may not like, let's say you post dogs and the
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: casting director likes cats. But I'm saying something like that,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: does that hurt you? Even though you're qualified, you're talented,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: do you think that could potentially hurt you? Obviously the
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: dogs and cats, right? But something along those lines, if
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: they see something where they're like, eh, now I don't
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: want to work with you. Does that happen?
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I would love to know too, honestly.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: More so I would say just of basically showing who
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: you are. Like if I like to cook, Like showing
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: like my cooking series or something like that. I'm not
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: talking about like. Yeah, the real.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I struggle with social media sometimes because, you know,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: you have to have it as an actress, like especially now.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: That's so important in marketing and like marketing yourself. But
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I like actually hate. Posting?
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Posting, yeah. It's weird. It's hard. It's hard to create
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: a reel.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I'm like looking at it like, I know. Like literally,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: do I delete this now? I know.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: And you're probably, you're so busy, you know, editing audition tapes. Exactly.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Do a reel too. Now I gotta like put together
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: a curated post to show that I do cool stuff.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: There is fun, there's a fun aspect to it, but
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: definitely like, it's a little stressful. Like, growing up, I
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: didn't think that The social media was that big of, like,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: a factor in it. But it is. It does. It
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: very much is. I think just showing your life, I think,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: is okay. Showing, like, what you like to do and,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: you know, just, like, what you look like on a
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: given Tuesday or, I think, showing different hairstyles you could do.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: That's more what I use it as. I use my
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: social media kind of as a lookbook. Yes. Like, oh,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: if you need me in this, this is what I
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: look like doing this. And here's a picture of me
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: and a horse. I love a horse.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I like to travel. I have, like, pictures from all
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: my broad trips and stuff like that.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: And I think that's great advice, too, just for anyone watching. Yeah,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I think that's a good indicator of people. They're like, oh,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: you know, she's cool. She likes, you know, she's chill.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: She likes horses. You know, we can vibe with her.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: I think that's what I'm hoping that they're looking at.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: I agree. Very good. Okay, so anyone watching who is aspiring? Balance.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Balance is key. Okay, so let's dig back into the fishbowl, girl.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Let's pull our next topic. Let's do it. Oh, I'm sorry. No,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: you're good. Okay, I have my next topic.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: All right, what we got? Pressure. Pressure. Okay.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: All right, let's see it.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Thank you.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Thank you, my love. All right. All right, let's do it.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Let's go through. I'm going to do three from here.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: I'm going to do three from here. Okay. So you
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: chose acting. Did you feel like you were choosing something
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: that was completely yours?
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. Everyone in my family are all athletes, like,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: even my cousins. They are all soccer players, softball players. Yeah,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: my brothers were both, like, All-Americans. Like, they played basketball.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Like, football, soccer, baseball. They did everything. I also did, too.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: What sport?
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Like, not to, like... Volleyball, soccer, basketball. I did softball, basketball, soccer,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: and volleyball. And gymnastics and dance. And dance is a sport.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: It's absolutely a sport.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: It's one of the hardest.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Absolutely a sport.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: And gymnastics is one of the hardest, too. And I
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: don't want any flack on saying that. People need to
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: give them their rewards. Yes, absolutely. But, yeah, I think
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I tried all the sports. And I really enjoyed it.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: And I'm actually very good. I'm a very good athletic person.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I'm a good athletic person. When my brothers had like
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: their football games and it was halftime, I'd be like, oh,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: is it intermission? I would accidentally say stuff like that. Like,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: that's how I am. But I'm very I'm very athletic
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: and I was very good at soccer. I played for
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: like 10 years. I was very good at basketball, softball. Man.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: How are you going to mess up on softball, Raquel?
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Softball is hard, though.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: No, I wasn't bad. My team sucked.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, they sucked. She said it wasn't a me problem.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Your dad is MLB, and he was like, you can't
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: mess up on softball. Okay, okay.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: My team sucked so bad, and I'm a winner. Oh, man.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: If we're not winning... I'm like, dad, I'm done.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: She said, I'm a winner.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Because you know what? It's not me.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: It's them. She said it's not me. It's them.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even like it enough to continue.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I wasn't even like obsessed with it.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: She said it's not me.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: It's them. No. I love soccer though.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Period.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I love volleyball, but that hurts really bad. But no, yeah,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I tried all the sports and I really liked them.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Dance was my favorite, clearly. And I did that for
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: the longest time. I did like ballet, jazz, contemporary, tap,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: hip hop. Yeah. But it was always never going to
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: be that. It was always going to be acting. Again,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I keep bringing up reading, but that's because that's the
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: reason I got into acting. My imagination was so honed
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: from the moment. I had such a good memorization skill.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: I have like a baby video of me in diapers
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: and I'm like maybe three. And I'm reading my mom
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: a whole Pinkalicious book. And I'm asking my mom, am
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I reading that? And she was like, no, you memorized
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: me reading it to you. And you knew when I
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: would turn pages. Like I would just memorize it. And
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I'm literally reading it to her. And I realize I'm
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: not reading because sometimes I'd continue while I'm looking at her.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: And I'd continue saying it. And so I think ever
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: since I was like the littlest of girls, I just–
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I never, that was my thing. Like I love to paint,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I love to draw. I used to make movies with
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: my cousins. I used to like write novels when I
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: was like literally in third grade and they would have
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: me go read them to the eighth graders. So even
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: though I loved sports and I'm in a very sports family,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: My brain was always super creative and like it wouldn't
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: have allowed for I truly think anything other than what
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I do now. And it still doesn't. Like I try
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: other things. I'm good at them and I have fun
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: with them. But like it's nothing. Like I'm so left-sided
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: in my brain. Like my right side is like, girl,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: good luck.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: You say, wake it up, exercise it a little.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: It needs to wake up.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: It's a very actor thing.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, wait, no, I need you in this scenario.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: You need to work, honey.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: You need to get together today.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: So have you ever walked into a room, it could
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: be a set or anything, where you felt like you
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: had to prove that I actually belong here?
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Honestly, yes. I think when I'm on set, I kind
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: of go into my zone. My dad, again, he kind
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: of just told me, when you walk into a room,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: own it, basically. So I'm always nervous. When I first
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: started acting, I was always nervous in the audition room
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: and beforehand. Second I got the role and I was
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: on that set, I would just be like, all right,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I'm excited. Like I would just turn all of it
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: into excitement. I'd be like, I just got to, I'm
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: here to do what I got to do. They hired me.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: So clearly there's something I'm doing right. And I think
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: that I deserved that. Weirdly enough, I'm more nervous at
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: my acting studio. I feel like I have such a
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: great acting studio, the screen acting studio. Everyone there is
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: just so, they've really changed my entire perception on like
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: my craft and just transitioning from childhood acting to like
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: adult acting. But because I look up to everyone there
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: so much and my acting coaches, Kay and Erin, I
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: do feel like I wanna prove myself. I want to
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: prove that their belief in me is not misplaced. I
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: show up hungry and that's because they're not hiring me.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: They don't have to. I want to show like, no,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I belong here. So I feel it more on that
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: scale rather than being on set. When I'm on set,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I'm like, This is because my hard work.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: You're like, I'm here.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I got here because you did. I'm a winner.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a winner.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so competitive.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I can see that. It's so bad. But it's good
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: for what you do. You need it. I have a
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: song for you. Go ahead, girl. It's called I Was
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Born a Winner. It's a reggae song. Have you ever
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: heard it? No, but I need that. Can we play?
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Will we have copyright issues if we play it?
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: So I Was Born a Winner is for you.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: The artist's name just left me, but it's called I
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Was Born a Winner. I have one more question and
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: then we're going to move on. Go ahead, girl. What's
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: one experience in your life that reminded you that no
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: matter what you're born into, success, access, legacy, life still
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: happens to everybody?
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: That's really good.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Take a second if you need it.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really good.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: I love that question.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: What's one experience... I have like like kind of two answers.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I think like the first one was like when I
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: was like bullied in high school. Like I was like
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: kind of like bullied for like a good two months.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: And I had never just thought that could happen to
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: me because I was like everyone loves me. Like I
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: grew up In my family, every parent loved me. Every
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: teacher loved me. I was a big teacher's pet. I
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: would get us out of homework because they loved me
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: so much. And then I went to a new school
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: and people didn't like how happy I was. They would say,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: why is she so happy? And I would get in
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: scenarios where I'm like, wait, why can't we just communicate
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: about this? And instead, it was very... That was very
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: hard for me at the time. But I wouldn't say
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: that's my answer.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: In a really.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: It sounds super superficial, but... My first breakup. Oh. Like,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: my first breakup was kind of, like, messy boots. So, like...
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: How old were you?
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: I was 19.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Okay. But it wasn't, like, messy boots in the sense that, like,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: either one of us did anything really bad. It just
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: was the way that it unfolded. Like, I lost friends.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: And I didn't need those friends to begin with, though.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Especially in the way that I lost them. Yeah. But
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I think that was the first time in my life
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: where I had... my confidence was, like, striked. Like, it, like, it,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: not even just because of the breakup itself, because of
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: what it symbolized, because of how I was feeling, because
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I knew we needed to break up. Like, it wasn't
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: like I wanted to stay. But how I felt was
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: a deeper thing. And then, you know, I'm in school,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: so it's like, everyone's looking at you. We're still living
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: on campus. It's like, it felt, for the first time, like,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I was super out of my depth and I forgot
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: kind of who I was. And I had to, like,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: go back home and, like, recenter myself a little bit. And, like,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: go to therapy and like figure out certain things about
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: myself and so I'm so glad it happened because the
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: therapy wasn't even because of the breakup right it just
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: was like the thing to be like I knew I
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: needed to do this like I knew I needed to
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: go therapy so I think that was the moment where
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: I think the first moment you realize that you can
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: hurt people and even if it's unintentionally you you have
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: like the power to to act or to do something
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: where you don't even like assign that in Like, again,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: it wasn't, like, nobody cheated. Nobody, we literally just should
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: not have been together. But just, like, I don't know.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: There is something so weird about your first breakup.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: The first breakup is hard. There is something so weird
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: about it. The first one is always hard.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: It's, like, how to, it always, it sticks with you
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: There's a part of it that's, like, you never forget it. And, like,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: even in moments still, I have a moment where I'm, like, oh. And, like,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: I just remember certain things and then I'm, like, Wow. And, like,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: it sits with you. And I think I'm really glad
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I went to therapy. I'm really glad that I healed
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: from it the way I did. I think I healed
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: from it perfectly. I was very– I was not out
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: here the next day, like, trying to, like, numb it all.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Act like it didn't happen.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: And my best friend, Lucky. You guys had her on
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: the podcast.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: We love her. Hey, Lucky.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, Lucky. We love you, girl. I– this is
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: really funny. The minute we broke up, I went back
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: to my dorm. Mm-hmm. And I was trying not to
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: cry because she was like napping in her bed. And
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I'm at like the desk. I'm like taking my jewelry off.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like sniffling. And I hear her be like, what's
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: wrong with you? Like she's like in sleep. And I
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: was like, he broke up with me. And she just yells,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: are you kidding me? And then I literally walked over
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: to like the bed and I laid on her. And
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I'm like telling her all about it. And she's like
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: rubbing my back. And I'm like talking and talking, talking.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: And I wait for her response. And I look up
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: and she's snoring. Because she was asleep. So I'm just
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: laying on her crying, and she just went back to sleep.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: And I was like, that's lucky for you.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: She was like, girl, bye. She said, you'll be all right.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: You'll be all right.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: In the middle of that, she was like, I'll talk.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: You know what? You just get this out.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I'll get back to you. But she told me, she
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: was like, girl, you got two weeks to cry all
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: your tears out, and then we're getting back up. And
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I was like, period.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Because I'm a winner.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Because I'm a winner. So yeah, probably that.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Freddie McGregor is the name of, is the artist. Freddie McGregor.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: I was born a winner. We're going to listen to that.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Before we, before I have you pick another token, one
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: piece of advice for anyone who is experiencing heartbreak for
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: the first time.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: That you got, that you gained from your therapist. Yeah.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Have so much grace for yourself.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: That's so good.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Have so much. And also, if it's the first time,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know your situation, but I knew in mine, like,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: she just it feels so heavy it feels like it
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: really feels like a death in your life because you're
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: so used to this person and then one day they're
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: just gone and you have to like understand that that's
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: a real thing like your grief is a real thing
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: and it's not just this like superficial thing because it's
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: like a breakup like I think people treat it sometimes
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: like oh you're just young and you just broke up
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: it's like no this is like very hard to go
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: through because it holds up a mirror to yourself and
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: who you are and like decisions you've made or you
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: think back on every moment in the relationship and that's
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: a very hard thing to do, especially if you guys
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: were very connected. I think I'll say, yeah, have a grace.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: And also like, they're probably not the love of your life.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Because what my therapist told me was, I know you
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: feel like you're dying, but if you lost the love
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: of your life, you would actually probably die. Like you
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: literally would, you would, you would literally feel way have like,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: it's this different feeling. And then she told me like
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: the first one, is gonna be the worst because you
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: don't think that you're gonna survive it. And then when
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: you survive it, like I remember the day I woke
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: up and I felt a weight lifted off my shoulders.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I was like, I can breathe again. And then everything
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: opened up for me. So I think that's why it's
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: so hard is because it's your first time going through it.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: You don't know how to counsel yourself. You don't know
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: what to accept. You don't know what to expect. You
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: don't know how to give yourself grace. You don't know
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: how to grieve, right? How do you even grieve from that?
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: And so then you're like, oh, I'm always going to
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: feel this way. And then you don't. You will get
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: back up. You'll do better things. You'll grow. You'll prosper.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: You'll get your face card back because they know how
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: to take that face card. I'll say that.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: That's what we're not going to do. You'll get your
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: face card back. You'll find somebody else because there's always
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: somebody else.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Not our purses.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Her, Mr. David Justice.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Quoting David Justice, MLB superstar, men are prises. He's
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: going to literally call her a slugger himself.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Why would you say that?
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: The two times slugger, mind you.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Okay. Purpose. Let's do it. Perfect. Let's do it. All right.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Who is Raquel Justice outside of being David Justice's daughter?
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: You've touched a little bit on it, but just go
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: deeper into that.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Who are you?
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: And outside of being an actress. Yes, yes, yes.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I have to think of myself through my friend's lens.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: How are you as a friend? Who are you in
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: the friend group?
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I'm fiercely loyal. I can see that. I'll just attest
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: to me and Lucky's close relationship. She is so the
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: straight man, and I'm so like, you got to put
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: me on a leash. That's just how we work with
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: each other, though, and we really understand each other. And
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: so she's always saying like, you're so crazy. Like, that's
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: her saying to me, like, you are so crazy. And
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I'm always like, Why aren't you more upset? Like, I'm
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: going to be the person I'm always going to advocate
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: for my friends. And if they're not upset about it,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: I'm upset about it. Like, I'm not understanding. I won't forget.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: And I'll let them forget. But I'm a hold. I'm
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: a very, like, my aunt says, like, I'm a warrior almost.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: And she's like, girl, you're too much sometimes. And I'm like,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: somebody's got to do it. For the people I love,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I will really ride 10 toes down.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Love it.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: A little bit. And I'm trying to actually be a
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: little bit better at that because sometimes I'm like.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with standing ten toes.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm a little bit like, you know. But Lucky's such...
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: She has so much compassion and understanding and kindness and
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: grace for people, especially if they've done her dirty. And
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I honestly really admire it. And so I think I
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: bring to her a sense of reality. Sometimes she comes
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: to me... Because she's like, I feel like I may
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: just be delusional. And I'm just, she's like, I need
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: reality right now. And I'll be like, they're playing in
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: your face. Like, I will, I'll bring that. And then
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: she'll bring to me, like, well, think about it this way.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: This way. That's why it works.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: So it works.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: So I will say, like, me outside of acting and.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Outside of acting and my, like, family, I'm very, like, people.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I'm a people. I'm a community-driven person. Like, I need
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: my community. I need my friends. I need my partner.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I need all of it. Like, they are the most
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: important thing to me. And I'm a big traveler. Like,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: I love, love, love the world. I love food. so
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: I'm a big like adventure thrill seeker and sometimes with
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: acting it's hard to like be like I'm just gonna
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: like go live here for a while but there's like
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: these warring sides in my brain because I want to
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: be here I want to really apply myself and then
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I'll always feel like my heart is somewhere else I
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: always feel like my heart is in different places so
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I'm a big nomad I would say. I literally lived
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: out of my car for years, even though I had
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: a home. But I just was like, no, I'm not
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: in a stable spot. I want to be here, here,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: and here. So I'm going to drive here for two days.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Then I'm going to go here. Then I'm going to
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: come visit my friends here. And I'll just live out
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: of my car. And so I just did. That's just
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: how I... I'm very... I would say my friends say
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: that I'm very whimsical.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: I was going to say whimsical.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: But sometimes I'm like... It's like calling me a manic
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: pixie dream girl. I hate that because... It's like so,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: sometimes I'm just like, that's so corny.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: So just a free spirit.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, maybe free spirit is a better word.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: I would say like, they definitely say I'm more like,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: I bring a lot of childlike, like, like, innocence to
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: their life, I would say. I don't say that. But
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: I don't have any perception of who I am. So
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I try to speak from their point of view. And
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: that's just stuff that they've told me.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you mentioned traveling. So this is just something
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: I thought of. So on a girl's trip, which friend
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: are you? Are you the one that's asleep? The one
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: that's reading a book? We don't know if she's not
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: going to be asleep. Are you the one partying on
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: the counter? Are you the one working out?
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: So like all? So all the above? I'm so type B.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: I'm so type B.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Are you the itinerary girl?
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: No. No.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Just let it flow?
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: I don't want an itinerary. I have some food spots
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: I want to hit. Okay.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: That's me.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I'm always going to try to find a library or
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: a really cool bookstore in the area. I'm really going
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: to try to find that. And then we're going to
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: find the best spots to go to at night. I
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: just need to experience life. And I think in Europe, though,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: it's like you walk outside, you'll find it. So I'm
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: not an itinerary girl.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm all the above.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: And I bring my book everywhere, by the way. And
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: it's either gonna be in Lucky's bag or my partner's
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: holding it.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Before we started filming, you were outside reading.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: I was like, what collection do y'all got?
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: She gonna find her a good book, honey. Okay, maybe
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: do one more? Yeah, let's do one more. Okay, so
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: this is a good one. What advice would you give
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: someone who's still trying to figure out who they are
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: and what they're meant to do?
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's such a good question. I feel
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: like with the what you're meant to do, I'm not
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: the best person to ask because I've just always known
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: I've never really had, I've never faltered in the fact
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: that this is what I want to do. Of course,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: I've had doubts and I've had like my quarter life
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: crisis where I'm like, well, if this doesn't work out
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: for me, I'm going to move somewhere and I'm just
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: going to get like a smoothie shack. Like that's literally
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: my idea. Like if this doesn't work, I'm leaving the country.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I think seeing my friends, we're
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: all going through this like transitionary period. We just graduated
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: from college. Everyone's moving to different places. Lucky's probably on
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: a plane right now to Paris.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Gonna die, but that's okay. I'm not crying about that. No, seriously.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: We said goodbye to each other last night and we
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: were literally acting like we were dying.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: Was she moving to Paris?
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: She's moving to Paris.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: No, she's not.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: For like a full year and like a half. Yeah,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: she's getting her MBA. I gotta text her.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: She did not tell us that, so she's going to
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: have some explaining to do. Lucky girl. She did not approve.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Best of luck. I'm so happy for her. She did
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: not get that approved. She didn't, but I'm so happy
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: for her.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Good for you, girl. She's going to do amazing things.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: So she's getting her master's right now, and she's doing
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: it in Paris. She's fluent in French, so she's going
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: to find her way.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Of course, yeah, she's on here.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: But, I mean, I never worry about her out in
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: the world, but we haven't. I mean, we've been living
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: with each other consistently. for the past four years and
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: then for the past six years off and on because
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: for two years before that I was living with her
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: off and on for like three weeks at a time.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: We traveled the world together before we even went to college.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: We went to Madrid together. We like, so we were,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: we were saying goodbye last night and we're not a
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: very like, I'm a super like physical person. She's kind
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: of like, okay, so let me like give her a
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: big hug. She's like a friend where like if she
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: puts her head on your shoulder, you freeze, they don't move.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: That's like the type of, like I'm like, okay, she's like,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: her head's on my shoulder. I'm going to like play
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: super cool. But we were saying goodbye last night and like,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: It was really, it was actually so sad. But yeah, no,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: we were like holding hands and like we just didn't,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: we didn't let go. And I'm like trying to, I'm
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: trying to walk out the door, but I'm like, I can't,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: like we can't let go. And we texted immediately and
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: it was literally like, I literally texted her, I carry
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: you with me everywhere. But I'm like, we were sort
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: of laughing over text because I'm like, why are we,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: we acted like you're dying. We acted like you died.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to see her for her birthday in
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: a month and a half.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: So it's like.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: I'm tripping, but.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: There's still separation, anxiety.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: We're used to being with each other.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: We are not... This is not cut out for us.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: We literally, since the moment we met, like, that's kind
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: of like my sister. So it's weird. But back to
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: the question. I will say that if... I'm going to
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: steal an Anthony Bourdain quote, but if there's one piece
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: of advice that I can give, it is to move, like,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: across the river or across an ocean. Like, just go.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: If you don't know what you want to do yet,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: experience the world. That's more... The work is always going
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: to be there. Work is, like... it's all capitalism is
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: always gonna be there so if you have the chance
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: to like just live as a human and and if
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: you are able to save up enough to even take
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: like a road trip across america very good that's what
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: you do and that's how you find yourself that's how
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: you find what you love and like you may find
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: it in the most unexpected places and you might end
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: up in a state where you're like maybe i'll stay
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: here maybe this is where i'm gonna i'm gonna try
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: to do something here and then move to the next
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: spot I think my cousin Kieran is like a perfect
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: example of that. He's such a free spirit. He didn't
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: go to college, but he's the most like lived person
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I know. And he, like school isn't for everybody. So
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: he just, he just started his life and he is
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: so free. He's so open to like life and he
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: just picks up jobs and he works super hard. And
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: so he'll get money, he'll save and then he'll do this.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: I love that. I love it. I'm like, we're 22.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: That's what we should be doing. Thank you.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say. It's hard in
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: a society right now.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: You guys are doing a great job of doing it.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Do you think that friends can be soulmates?
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, absolutely. Like, Lucky's my soulmate. Like, for sure. And, like,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: my partner right now, he'll always say, like, I know
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: I can't compete with her, but I'm just going to
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: be here to, like, love you both, basically. Because he's
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: also one of her best friends. So, I mean, all
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: of our partners have, like, known. If we're all together,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: it's just, like, And it's, like, a double date situation,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: which she hates doing. But when I forced her to
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: do it, it's literally, like, we're together. Like, you guys
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: are just kind of here to just, like, entertain us or, like,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: find us a music. Laugh at our jokes and we're
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: going to poke at you. Like, that's my soulmate for sure.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: And my cousins.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: So special.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: They're my soulmates. Like, I think friendships are more important
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: than a relationship. I think, like, especially female friendships are, like,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: I think they're, like, the deepest form of love that
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: you can, like, hit.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: And we don't even pay close enough attention to how
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: much more important community is than a partner.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: That's so special. You girls are doing it. Y'all are
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: doing it.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: I will say I'm inspired. No pun intended. I'm lucky.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: And we're about to pull because we got to. But
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: how you guys see the world is different than how
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: we saw it and how we see it and how
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: we grew up seeing it. And so it's so beautiful
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: to hear y'all talk about living and moving to different
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: countries and studying abroad and just living your life.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: And not putting so much on other people. Yeah. And
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: not feeling stuck.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: That's the thing, especially for women. So it's, it's, it's
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: very good. And, um, I'm just happy to hear it
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: come from.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: And it's not so easy. Yeah.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: It's not.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: That's where, that's where it really comes in. We're like, yeah,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: we thank our parents and I think our community, because
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: they're the ones who even like, push us to have
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: this mentality. Allow us to have the mentality. It's really
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: like a privilege to have that mentality.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: It really is.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: Especially when you get to our age, because we're 10
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: plus years older. You will be so happy when you
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: look back at your 20s that you lived. I lived
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: out of my closet. I went here, I went there.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: I don't remember any of it. Nothing left is left
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: on the table. That's good. Very good. Very good for
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: you guys. All right, let's see what's next. And I
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: love the girl-girl, the girls-girl vibes. I love it. We
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: are certified girls-girls.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Girls-girls. Certified. Truth or dare. Rights and wrongs. Truth or dare.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: Rights and wrongs, baby.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Period.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Truth or dare, let's just do one. Okay, cool. Ooh,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: that's the pressure. The pressure. Okay, so wait, but let's,
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: she has to choose truth or dare. Okay, yeah, go ahead.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: And then, oh God. I'm like, do you want to
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: do truth or dare?
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm trying to think of what a dare would
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: even be right now.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: You know what? It's not.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: Actually, I kind of want you.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: To do a dare. Okay, I'll do a dare.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead. Pick a dare for her to do.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: Act out how you really react when you get an
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: audition rejection email oh wait.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: This is good okay this is good because it's never
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: an email it's just radio silence.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Okay they never tell you why.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: No they'll never nope okay um so it literally is
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: just this like that's guys i'm kidding you not it's
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: this okay okay and you're like all right but here's
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: why because it used to be like this Like, it
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: literally used to be like, okay, okay, I suck. I'm horrible. Okay. Okay. But,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've been doing this for, like, 10 years. So,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: and I get a lot of auditions, like, thankfully. Like,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: I'm privileged again. Like, I have such a great team.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Sheridan and Lindsay at Paradigm.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Shout out to you.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Best team ever. Love you guys down. So, they get
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: me such great auditions. But the industry now, because it's so,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: it's all self-tapes. It's, you literally just, you do your
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: hard work. You send it in. and then you have
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: to forget about it. You have to or else it
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: will ruin your life. And there's no rejection email. There's
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: just no talking. There's no checking back up. And so
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: I normally give my auditions like a week, week or
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: two to hear something back. If I don't hear anything back,
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: I let it go. And sometimes, rarely, they'll come back
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: a month later and be like, all right, let's send
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: in another one. And then I'll be like, oh, okay, sure.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: And then I'll get excited again. But I only really
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: get sad if it's a project that I got really
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: attached to while preparing for. Like, oh, this would be
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: so cool to do. And, like, I get really attached
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: to it. Or if I get a callback and then
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: a director session and then I get pinned. and then
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: I lose it, that's when I gotta go get like
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: a mimosa.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Like a margarita at Cinco's.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Not at Cinco's, she said at Cinco's. No, I need
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: my friends, girl. I need to forget. I'm gonna go
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: to my books.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: What about when you see the person and you audition
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: for it and you're like.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I think it's kind of cool because I audition
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: for a lot of great stuff. So the second that
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: I see it's been cast, well, first off, if it
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: was cast by like another like black woman.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: I'm like period period because.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's not that's okay too but like if it
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: is i'm like okay like.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: You're like okay okay okay one.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Of us got it yeah that's good i'm gonna watch
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: it yeah i almost watch it if i see it
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: coming out and i'm kind of interested i'm like let
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: me just watch it just to see.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: What it's like yeah and like i.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: In this industry literally the only way you'll survive is
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: if you just have the mentality if it's meant for
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: me it'll be mine absolutely because if you keep thinking
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: like I should have that.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Why didn't I get it?
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Why didn't I have that? What is it about her
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: that's not in me? It's like, you're going to drive
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: yourself crazy. I'm just lucky I got the audition. They
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: got to see my face, you know? So, yeah. Okay.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: You want to do another one or what? Oh, what's
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: another one? You want to do a truth or just
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: a dare? Truth or dare?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: I want to do another dare.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, cool. Yeah, that was fun. Text your dad and
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: ask him to describe you in one word. Yes.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: He's not going to answer for three days. Oh, okay. No, no,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: he doesn't.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: He's only a calm guy.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, calm.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, calm. Let's see if he'll answer. Call your dad
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: and ask him to describe you in one word and
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: we'll hear the answer.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: One word. Let's FaceTime him. Let's see if he answers us. Yeah,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: let's see. Don't ignore us. He'll probably answer. Don't ignore us.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: I hope we got good Wi-Fi in here.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Okay. If he ignores us, I'm going to text him.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: You'll be like, you know what?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: You know what? I could be dying. Don't ignore me.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: What am I saying? What could you be doing other
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: than being my parent 24-7?
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Oh my God. Literally, this is so funny. His picture,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: his thing on my phone is Speed Outta Man with
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: a Superman, a black Superman next to it. I see.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: He's probably golfing. Oh, shoot.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: Probably is. You know our dads golf together. Do you
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: know that?
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: I did not know that. Yes. They golf a lot.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: They golf a lot. They golf a lot. They go
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: to those golf tournaments. Cedric's.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: Anthony's.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Now Silver Slugger.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Where are you at? No, literally. She said, where are
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: you at? I'm going to send a video, too. I'm
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: trying to think who I could. Okay.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, then.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Okay. Hi, Mr.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Justice.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's see.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Hi, Mr. Justice.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Hey. Everyone say hey.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: So you almost had a moment of fame.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: Almost. We're trying to give it to you.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: But you didn't answer. So. Because we'll talk about that later.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Love you. Bye. Bye.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: That was cute.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: So let's go to. What if he calls back? I know.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: If he calls back.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: We're answering.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: For sure. Okay.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: Let's see what's next.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Miscellaneous. Miscellaneous.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Let's do two miscellaneous. All right. Let's do it.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: I have like a weird little thing about this.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: I love.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: How people abbreviate miscellaneous. Just physically looking at it, I
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: just love how it looks.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: It is cute.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Every time I see it, I'm like, misc.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: Misc.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: These are going to be fun. I love these. Oh,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: I think I know this. This is going to be
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: a hard one for you. Books or movies?
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Oh my God. I feel like you're like, how did
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: you do that?
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: I feel like I know the answer.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: You just shot me. I know.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: You got to do one. One or the other. Take
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: a moment. Can't do both. Get some water. She said
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: get some water.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: No, I know because I'm sweating. This is maybe the
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: hardest decision I've ever made.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Books or movies? That is a hard one.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say books.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: I can see that. That's what I was going to say.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: Because I have very wild imagination. So when I read
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: a book, I'm watching a movie. But I get to
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: cast it. I get the shots. I get, it's so
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: in depth, it's so, and movies are in art form,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: and obviously it's my craft, I love it. But books,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: it's like, I'm in a different world. Books, I'm able
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: to escape to anywhere I want. I love fantasy books,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: I love, yeah. I wanna be in the new Fourth Wing.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: We're making a Fourth Wing show.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: I love that book, I love that series. I literally
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: explained the entire first book out loud to my partner
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: to get him to read it. I explained it all
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: like chapter by chapter from memory. I want an audition.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: It's out there now. We believe in manifestation. We do
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: that here. Yes, we do that here. Okay, so since
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: we're talking about books, physical book or Kindle?
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, physical. I hate Kindles. Really? I hate any type
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: of reading that's not physical. I need to have the book.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: Unless it's like fan fiction. I used to read a
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: lot of fan fiction and you have to do that
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: on the computer. Okay. But yeah, no, I'm only ever
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: going to the bookstore. Interesting.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Okay. Comedy or drama?
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: Drama.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Audition in the room or self-tape?
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: In the room.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Exactly in the room.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: Dream role. I mean, I'm talking like, yeah, dream role.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: On the way over here, I knew you guys were
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: going to ask this. So I was like, what the
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: heck am I going to say? It's such a boring answer,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: but I literally just feel like anything that I get
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: freedom to play. That's why I think I love indie
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: films so much, because you just, they say action, and
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: it's such a collaborative piece. Anything that allows me to
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: feel like we are all so connected in making this,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: and you're not yelling cut, and you're just letting it run,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: and seeing what I'm gonna do. That just really lets
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: me exercise my talent, but also I love dystopian movies.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: I love movies where I gotta run, I gotta scream,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: I gotta, ah! You know, I love, and especially when
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: they're done well, like The Hunger Games, like, whoa, love that.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: So that's also, again, fourth wing.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, there we go.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: I love stuff like that. I love big worlds.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: Love it.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: So that would be awesome. Superheroes, I'm a huge Marvel nerd. Oh, yes!
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: Huge I could see you in Marvel I'm a Marvel
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: fan oh.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: My gosh yeah I'm re-reaching I'm re-watching all of them
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: before Doomsday that's coming out in December so yeah I'm
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: like I used to really want to be Ironheart but
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: Queen already got cast so that's okay that's okay that's
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: all good because again black women are winning but yeah
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: anything like that's just like that's a dream It's going
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: to happen.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: It's going to happen. We already spoke it.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: One thing you're surprisingly good at?
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: Pool.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: You like everything. Oh, pool? Like billiards?
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: I'm really good at pool. Oh, wow. Interesting. I don't
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: tell people so that I can go and they'll underestimate me.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: And then you end up kicking their ass.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: And I just stay silent.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: Because you're a winner.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: I'm a winner.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: I'm a winner.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I'm really good. Okay.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: We got one more token. What could it be?
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: What could it be?
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know, Mariah. Career! Okay, so now we
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: can dive into just what you're doing.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I was like, I thought he was texting back,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: but it's just my mom. We love your mom.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: We love my mom, too. Yeah, she's hilarious. Okay, so
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: let's just dive into your acting career. So when did
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: acting go from something you just enjoy doing to something
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: you genuinely wanted to build a career around? Did you
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: have like one moment?
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I had one moment. I think
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: I always knew it was like all I ever wanted
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: to do. But when you're a kid, it's just like fun.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: You don't think about like money or anything. You don't
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: think like, oh, I need to make a living. Maybe
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: in college. I really would say really though, only this
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: past like two years. Because still up until like two
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: years ago, it was still just something I really loved.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: And then I wasn't, I was in college. I'm like
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: a freshman. So like, I'm partying with my friends and
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: it's fun. And I'm going to film tomorrow, but I'm
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: going to be at the bar tonight. And like, it
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: was just like very fun.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: And then it got serious. And then it's like, okay,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: I'm about to enter the world. And my parents were like,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: this is what you still want to do. And there's
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: never like a question. But I think now I'm very, very,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: I'm way more like, I'm so much more into like
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: the craft of it. And like, I want, I don't
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: want it to just get, like, fast rolls and just, like,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: work as much as I can. I want to work badly.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: But I want to build something. And I think that's
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: where my team comes in, too. Again, Sheridan and Lindsay, like,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: they're so great. And so they are very with me on, like,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: we're building you. Because, you know, I want to have
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: a very long career. And every time I get stressed,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Meryl Streep didn't really become, like, Meryl Streep
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: until she became Meryl Streep. And she started booking really
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: at 29. So... I'm, like, also being patient with myself. Like,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: I think that's what these past two years have been.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: It's like, all right, let's put our boots on. You've
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: been doing it for a long time, but now you're
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: really doing it because now you're an adult. You're really,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: really only doing it once you go from childhood to, like,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: to adulthood. Really, I think, in this industry. Because when
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: you're a child, you don't have any decisions to make.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: You just kind of have fun with it. And then
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: once it becomes a job is when I think you
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: either really step up and you really fall deeper in
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: love with it or you, like, stop doing it.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: Really.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: So.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: So what's something that you've accomplished as an actress that
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: you're incredibly proud of?
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: I've honestly been able to be around some really amazing actors.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Like I worked with Rita Moreno. She's incredible. Like working
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: on Dexter was like, whoa, like that was so cool.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know how big of a show that
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: really was. I just I know it's like pop culture.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: You know, Dexter Morgan, I've heard that so much. And
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: a girl in my, I was still in college at
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: the time, a girl in my class had gotten an
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  Speaker 1: audition to play Deb. And everyone was like freaking out
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: about it. And I was like, what is this? So
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: I went, I looked it up. And I didn't even,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: I didn't reach out to my agents at all. I
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is cool. Oh, my dad's calling back. Okay. Oh,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: he's golfing. Oh, he's golfing. I'm on a podcast right now.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, what's the question? Oh, to describe.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, thank you, Ness. I'm on a podcast and they
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  Speaker 1: had a question for you. If you could describe me
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  Speaker 1: in one word, what would it be?
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  Speaker 2: One word? Mm-hmm. man, you're more than one word, baby.
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  Speaker 2: And so I'm going to say exquisite. Can you say
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: that one more time? Oh, he said it. My phone
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: wasn't rolling. My daughter, one word, if I have one word,
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  Speaker 2: it's going.
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  Speaker 1: To be exquisite. Love it.
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  Speaker 3: Explain.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't even do her justice. Explain. Well, explain why
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  Speaker 2: I say exquisite, because a person that's exquisite is smart, intelligent, beautiful, thought-provoking. Kind, sweet,
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  Speaker 2: a wonderful friend. She's a great daughter.
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  Speaker 1: Very helpful. Hey, thanks, guy.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's so sweet. I'm on a golf course.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Enjoy.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: When I called you, I was like, he's golfing. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: We love your advice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for calling us back.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: All right. I love you. Thank you for calling back.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: That was so good. That was so sweet.
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  Speaker 2: We got it.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: He loves his cute little golf outfits.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. He does look so cute, though. He
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: looks cute.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: He'll literally take both his hats and be like this. Okay, Raquel.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: And he's like, all right, watch. And he's like, every
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: single accessory, I have to be like, I'm like the
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: Simon Cowell of his closet.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: You need to tell him that you were on the
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: podcast with Mike Woodson's daughter.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: He's going to be like, oh!
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: I will.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: Nobody in my family even knows I'm doing this right now.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: That's the kind of person I am. I'm like, I'll
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: just like pop out with something and I'll let them
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: know like a week later.
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  Speaker 2: No, our dads are golf buddies. Okay, so we were
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: talking about your career and your acting. But I wanted
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: to ask about the Dexter process, about the process of
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: you auditioning and then kind of moving it through.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, heard about it in my acting class.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: I got an audition a week later. I didn't tell
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: anybody in my acting class because... I get such great
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: auditions and if it doesn't like go any further I'd
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: probably I just like don't tell anybody until like it
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: kind of feels like it's getting a little bit more
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: serious right and yeah I did the audition and then
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: I think two weeks later my film Finding Tony was
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: coming out at the time I filmed that freshman year
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: the whole month of finals month in Atlanta and it
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: was having its like release at the Chinese Theater in
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: Hollywood I think that's where it is yeah And I'm
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: so bad with names. And I was on my way
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: to my film, to walk the carpet, to promote the
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: film and to watch it for the first time with
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: all my family. And I'm all dressed up and I'm
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: in the backseat. I'm doing a vlog. And then my
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: team called me and they were like, okay, so they
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: really liked you. You have a director session. It's going
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: to be in a few days. So I was like, oh. Awesome.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: That was one of the times where I kind of
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: felt like this shit.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: So once you hear that, that means you got it.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: The director is pretty close. You're close. That's a big deal.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: Especially if it's going to be in person. Especially if
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: it's not on Zoom. It's like, no, they want you
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: to come into the office. It doesn't mean you have
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: it for sure.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: You're stepping in the right direction.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: You're stepping closer. The pool went from 1,000 auditioners to
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: there's probably going to be like maybe 10.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Wow. Okay.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: Which, again, it just keeps getting whittled down and down
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: and down. And so I was like, okay, I'm on
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: the way to a premiere. I got a director. I
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: love just like being able to just get past the
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: first round. And so then I went in, I had
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: locks at the time and I went in and I
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: was the only black girl in like the room and
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: like the, you know, And sometimes that used to scare
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: me when I was younger because I was like, well,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: one of us clearly does not look like the rest.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: So I used to think like, I'm not what they're
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: looking for. But that stopped scaring me a long time ago.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: I was like, no, I should be what they're looking for.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, I got to just own this.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: So I walked in the room and there was a
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: whole room full of people. And I think this is
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: where my training, when I first started acting, where my
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: training really comes into play is which is I didn't
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: start acting during the whole virtual craze. I started acting
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: when you physically had to be there. So you had
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: to learn how to put nerves away. You had to
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: learn how to talk, how to be charismatic and communicative
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: in the room, how to take direction on the spot.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: And I think those things really helped me when I
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: get later on in the process because you can film
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: a self tape as much as you want. You can
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: doctor as much as you want to portray something that
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: you want. But when you're actually speaking to the people,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: when you're there, you have to have you, like you
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: have to be full and you and show them who
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: you are. And, you know, I try to make them laugh.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: I try to find some way to like relate and
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: make them laugh and just like ease everyone so that
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: we're like, let's just work. Let's just do this together.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: And then I did it and they laughed really hard
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: at one of my jokes. And I remember in the
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: middle of the scene when I said the line and
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: they laughed, I was like, I was like this I
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: was like you.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: Gotta get that in the palm of my hand.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: And um but still I left the room and I
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: was like this is really cool and and this might
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: just be it and then I got the call um
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: like I think a few days later that I was
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: pinned and then I was like okay well I've gotten
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: here before so not get my hopes up my mom
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: was like I feel it I feel it I'm like
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: mom mom um and then I I booked it maybe
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: like a month later in the grand scheme of the
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: whole process and then I was filming it a few
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: weeks later So it kind of, to me, happened kind
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: of fast because I was just like, oh, I booked it? Like,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: it didn't even settle until I was there.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: What reaction did you have? Who called you?
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, my mom always, she always come to me
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: and she'd be like, I got some people on the phone.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: And it's like, at the time, it was my manager
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: and my two agents. And they were, any time that
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: they were, like, all on the phone together, I'm like...
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: what some things either good or bad no literally okay
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: I think my mom might have a video of me
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: reacting to it I don't know where it is though
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: but it's yeah it's always like okay I like to
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: take a deep breath and was like hey and they're
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: like so and then I'm like as soon as I
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: hear the so I'm like uh-oh did I book it
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: like did I get it and then they told me
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: I got it and I think it was just like
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: kind of shock at first I think I was like
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: whoa that's really cool but I still didn't really know
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: how big Dexter was until I started telling people and
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: everyone was like What? Like, no, it was like the craziest.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I got to start getting
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: ready for this. I got to be ready. And even
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: the outpour from it, when I was living in Europe,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: I had people recognizing me in like a small, like
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: only 50 people in a room, like bar in Southern Seville,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: which is the southern part of Spain. It's a super
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: small town. I was visiting my boyfriend at the time
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: and I'm in the room and I just had this
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: guy come up and just show me me. And he goes,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: this you? Literally that's what he said. And I go, well, yes.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: And he just went, cool. And then walked away. And
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is the first time that it's
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: gone worldwide. There was huge posters of it on the
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: main walk in Madrid. It was really cool. And filming
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: it was so cool. Um, and like a crazy experience.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't know. I just, it was awesome.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: Come on, give us some of the experiences.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't tell anybody my age because I was the
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: youngest one. I had just turned 20. And, um, everyone
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: normally always thinks I'm way older than 20. Like if,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: if people meet me and I don't tell them my age,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: they'll normally guess 25 at least. Um, I got, I got,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: I used to get 23 at 17. So like, I
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: know I present a little bit as older. Um, to
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: people who aren't my friends. My friends are like, girl, girl,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: you're 13. What are you talking about? But I didn't
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: tell anybody my age. And I just remember the day
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: that they found out, it was like, it like spread
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: through set. Like first of all, I like my co-star
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: found out and she was like, you're 20. And I
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah. And then she kind of kept it
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: on the down low for a little bit too. And
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: then I like kind of went around and they're like, no,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: you're not. No, you're not.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: I was like, Well, were you supposed to be a
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: certain age? No, they don't care. I just didn't want.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let me explain that. I didn't just... Everyone was
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: so much older, I wanted to be treated.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: as such okay the same amount of maturity older.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: I didn't want them to be like oh she's young
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: you know what i mean i i wanted like i
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: wanted to have a friendship like a good like connection
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: with these people um and i was able to get
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: that and and i think honestly i would have been
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: able to get that even if i did tell them
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: yeah it was like fun for me but how old
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: was your character like 17 okay yeah but it was
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: fun for me to just be like no one here
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: knows i'm 20 like the people who casted me now
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: but like Nobody else did. So it was just a
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: fun little secret I had. But no, it was amazing.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, I got to bring like people I love
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: to set, got to see it. The process people that
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: I was working with, everyone was so nice. Everyone was
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: so cool. Like my favorite part is crafty. Like I
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: love crafty. I always make friends with the crafty people
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: because they'll get you right. I literally would like I
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: was just loved the crafty guys. And then I would
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: be like filming a scene and I'd come back. And
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: I'd be, like, we were, like, in the Santa Clarita, like,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: valley for Quantum Leap. And I'm, like, super hot and
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: I'm sweating. And I'd come back and I would always have, like,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: fresh water and cold grapes and, like, peanut butter jelly
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: sandwiches waiting for me because I knew I loved that.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: And I was, like, this is why you got to just, like,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: be nice. They'll take care of you.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: They'll take care of you. Being nice goes a long way.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: But I love gravity.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, girl, I love a snack. I love how you appreciate.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I didn't know. No, no, no.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, girl.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: Our set on Radford Studios was right across from Lucky's
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: dad's set. Really? Yeah.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: So you and Lucky just, or they're not going nowhere.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I would walk out and I'd be like, to
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: like the people across, I'm like, hey guys, like I
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: was 15 in there, you know? Oh, wow.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: That's cool. I just love how you light up when
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: you talk about the process and it's just like, you
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: don't take any of it for granted and you appreciate
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: every step that goes along the way.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: It's a hard industry too.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's just you being so appreciative of your
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: craft and the process is very inspiring. And again, viewers
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: will just love to get to know that side of
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: you that you you don't take any of it for granted.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: So last question for someone who's trying to build a
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: real career and ascend in the entertainment industry. What advice
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: would you give them? Ooh, not the breath. She's like,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: let me think about this.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: What advice would I give? Well, first, definitely find an
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: acting studio and really apply yourself. Like, I hate improv,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: but I'm taking it. My amazing acting coaches, they're like,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: go to improv. Get outside of your comfort zone. I
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: think like live, like really live because acting is just
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: living truthfully in the imaginary world of the script. Like
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: you just have to be a real human. And you
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: get that through experience. Like you can play a character
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: if you have a strong enough imagination, but you can't
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: really play a role that might like experience some type
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: of life without knowing what that is or what that's like.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: You can talk to people if you don't have that experience,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: especially if they're like, more harsh experiences. You want to
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: talk to people who've gone through it. You want to
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: understand it. But experience is what you get as you
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: age too. Like I'm very, very lucky I got to
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: travel the world. Like I think that helped me so
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: much in just like feeling more grounded in myself. So
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, experience as much as you can, make mistakes,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: mess up, go through a breakup. That'll really help you
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: in a scene. It'll really help you. Yeah, just apply yourself.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: It's a very hard industry. So you have to understand
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: that you really can't take anything personally you have to
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: just like you have to really when people ask me
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: or and they say like i really want to act
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: i really want to act like what do you what
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: do you think i should do i always like make
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: sure to ask them like do you really love it
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: like why do you love it because it's okay to
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: love it for whatever reason you love it if it's
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: because it's it pays great that's okay too like that's
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: just your truth than that Um, but I will say
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: if you want to build like a career and a
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: craft and be able to like save your mental health
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: while doing it, you have to love it because you
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: can't live without it. You have to love it because
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: you feel the most like yourself when you're acting. Like that's, that's,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: I don't even know how to answer why I love
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: it so much. I know why I got into it.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: I know that I have a big imagination. I was
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: reading books and casting myself. And then I was like,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: why don't I just try it? And then it just
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: clicked for me. But I, all I know is that
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: if I don't do it, I'm not who I am.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: Like I don't, I'm not even the same. There's like
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: a euphoria I feel when I get to be in
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: the room or on a set or in a scene
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: in class or when I get to talk to other
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: people who love it. Or I'm writing right now. I'm
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: writing my first short film. I'm 16 pages in, so
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: I have to cut it down a little bit. But yeah,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: I'm very excited about it. And even that, I wrote
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: for like three hours two days ago and I had
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: this crazy feeling of it felt like when you take drugs.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: It literally felt like I was taking a drug by
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: just writing. I think that's what it has to fill
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: you with in order to survive. And you need a
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: strong community and a sense of yourself because this industry
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: will really push you. It'll test you and it might
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: make you lose sight of yourself. It'll break you. It'll
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  Speaker 1: make you very insecure. You'll start to try to fit
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  Speaker 1: yourself and mold yourself into what you think they might want.
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  Speaker 1: And at the end of the day... What they'll want
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  Speaker 1: is just you. Like you have to just be you.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm honestly, I may not be the person you
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  Speaker 1: want to ask because I'm still trying to figure it
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  Speaker 1: out myself.
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  Speaker 2: I'm only 22. No, I think you're the perfect person
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  Speaker 2: to ask because number one, you're in it. But then two,
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  Speaker 2: people don't hear. I think they want to be an
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: actor because they want to be known or they want
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: to be seen or they want to. be famous or...
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  Speaker 2: But it's more than that. And I think you've touched
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: on it, especially the part about living. It's like, you
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: just have to live.
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  Speaker 1: And the art of acting is, like, really hard.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even know how hard it was, again, until, like,
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  Speaker 1: two years ago. Like, I was having a great time
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: and it was really fun, but I wasn't really getting
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: deep with it until, like, the recent years.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very.
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  Speaker 1: It's very hard.
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  Speaker 2: To, like... And you know.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard. Like, you have to have a process and
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  Speaker 1: that's how... You need to go in-depth. You need to
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: go deep. You need to... Really, it's practice makes perfect.
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  Speaker 2: And everybody is different. Your process is going to be
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: different than mine.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you have to work.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: You have to train. But people need to hear that, though.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: Because I think they think, well, I'm charismatic. I can
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: get in front of a camera and just kind of
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: do whatever. It's like, no, no, baby.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes there are people who... can just get in front
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  Speaker 1: and then it takes off for them. But that's a rare,
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  Speaker 1: that's rare.
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  Speaker 2: It's very rare.
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  Speaker 1: That's rare.
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  Speaker 2: Because then you, but then it's like, if you have
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: different roles, you have to, there's a lot. And I
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: don't think anybody can just kind of, oh, you're good.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: I did it twice. There's another piece of advice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I'm going to be like, can she
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: get every single, sorry.
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  Speaker 1: But I was just at my studio two days ago
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  Speaker 1: and I was doing like a private one-on-one like breakdown process.
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  Speaker 1: I have an audition on Friday. So- Good luck, girl.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Give her some love and prayer. There we go. I
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: feel it.
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  Speaker 1: I feel it.
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  Speaker 2: I feel it. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. I have an audition.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really excited about it. I'm happy for you. I
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: was just talking with one of my coaches who is
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: just so good. And he was just saying, like, each
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: character that you play in class, each person that you
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: flesh out, each person that you, like, do your breakdown on,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: you dive deep with, you find your similarities, your difference, you, like,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: you take that week to become her. Mm-hmm. When you're
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: done with that scene in class and you're ready to
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: move on to the next character, you don't just throw
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: that person away. You have to put that in your armory.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: That goes into your wardrobe so that if you have
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: an audition or you end up booking a role on
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: set where it's like, okay, you know what? I'm performing
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: as Sophie this week in Frances Ha. But I booked
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: something a month from now. And this character I booked,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: she kind of reminds me of Sophie in a lot
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: of ways. I'm going to wear Sophie. And then I'm
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: going to tweak her where she needs to be tweaked.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: So I think that's what training gives you and like
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: process gives you is it doesn't, you don't go on
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: a set feeling out of your depths because you have
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: so many different versions of Raquel in there that I've
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: trained and I've found and I've made like I've chiseled
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: so that when I bring her back out, I just
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: have to walk around as her for a second, bring
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: her back to life, try to jumpstart her again, and then, okay,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: this character's 80% like Sophie, but that extra 20%, I
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: gotta tweak that, and that's where I'll then go into
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: the breakdown process for that but I'm not starting from
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: square one.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: So you have like an arsenal an arsenal of characters
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: you can pull out of your bag exactly awesome never
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: thought of it that way I think acting class is
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: so amazing for that and it helps you take stress
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: off yourself when you do have to be on set
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: because it's like my acting coach always says like when
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: you're up here literally mess up like you're in you're
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: in front of like 30 people mess up you're not
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: on set if you're gonna mess up or do anything.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: Wrong or or yeah or like like literally just do
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: a bad performance do a bad performance just do it
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: this is the time this is the place to do
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: it I love that yeah.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: I love that look Getting some free gems. That's what
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. That was a bunch of gems.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: I would have loved to hear this a little bit ago.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: That's what this is about.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: So we're going to wrap with legacy and then we
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: have one more activity to do right after. But when
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: you hear the word legacy, what does it mean to you?
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: And I guess it was two questions. What do you
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: want to be remembered?
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: Legacy honestly doesn't mean like career to me. It means like,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: this is going to sound so like, But it just
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: means kind of like what you leave here, like leave
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: the earth with, I think. I think we live in
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: like a society that can be very individualistic. And I
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: think I only got to really see that because I
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: got to travel and because different cultures, they all have
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: their different things. But I come, I live in America,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: which is individualistic, but my family is super community-based because
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: they're very Latin. They're very Hispanic. So, and, you know,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: I will say that, and I pick my words carefully.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: I will say that it's so important to treat people
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: well and with kindness and you want to leave something
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: that is not selfish. My career is selfish because it's
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: for me. It fills me up and like it makes
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: me happy. And yeah, I may make stuff that gets
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: to inspire people and that's amazing. But it's inherently, to
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: me at least, selfish. I think that it's like, to
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: be an actor too, you have to have ego. You
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: have to, or else you won't survive. So I think
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: what's more important to me, and this is something that
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: my grandparents again instilled, is family and friends and love
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: is everything. And then community is second. And I'm super
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: into political activism. I really am. I'm in my personal
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: life very much so, but... I just think that we
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: need to start being way more compassionate to everybody and
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: to each other and to ourselves. And so legacy to me,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: like I really want to create a school if I
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: somehow have the money to do it one day. But
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: because money, I mean, money is everything in this world, sadly, but.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: I think we need more people with money who want
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: to do so much good. So if anybody gets the
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: opportunity to do that, then the legacy you should leave
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: should reflect that. Because that's just a matter of the fact.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: When you travel, you see how many different people there are.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: Even if you go to a different state, you just
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: see the wild differences between you and other people in
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: every facet of life. Even if it's somebody who has
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: the same economic standing as you, there's other things that
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: are like, Vastly different. right and you have to you
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: have to care about people i think that's to me
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: at least what legacy is right now like you have
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: to care about people like we are just animals like
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: we are we we are so self-important and i think
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: that self-importance just leads to a very ostracized very lonely
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: very harsh society so i think Yeah, I would just
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: like to somehow in any way that I can leave
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: behind something that people remember for like what good it did.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: Like Dolly Parton.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: Oh we love dolly we were just talking about her
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: the other day man what a human being like she
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: was a musician yes but like a human.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: I agree a human being yes that's what i that's
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: what i mean by legacy it's like she she did
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: so much good with the money that she made from
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: what she loved to do and she was so lucky
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: to be able to have to make to make a
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: living off of like being dolly parton like she's a
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: well first off she's amazing but like just what she
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: did for people and like Children and communities.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: It's like, that's what real legacy is. That's what really
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: actually matters. Entertainment, it doesn't matter as much to me.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: I think film and television is such an art is
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: always like the most amazing way to influence and to
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: bring awareness and to like, like, I mean, all the
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: renaissances that we've ever had, like we get so much
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: information about society from art. So it's important. But if
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: we just have that and then we're not doing anything
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: on the other side, then it feels pointless because what
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: are we really influencing? What are we really helping? If
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: we're just going to put it on a blast, but
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: then no one's going to want to like, start changing things.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: Beautifully said. Wow.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That was a beautiful answer.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: It's a great one. Yeah, that was beautifully said. And girlfriend,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: I could see all of that happening for you because
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: even we've been with you the last, what, hour, hour
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: and a half and your energy, what you stand for,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: who you are.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: Thanks.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: It's going to happen. And the legacy that you hope
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: that you are creating, you are. So I'm so bad
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: at taking compliments.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: No, no, you are.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: You are creative, but you are incredibly thoughtful as well.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: And so keep doing keep just carrying that with you.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: And I know that you're not going to ever allow
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: anyone to change who you are, but we're here to
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: remind you just to stay true to who you are
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: and keep going. And you just are a beautiful person
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: inside and out.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: You guys are awesome.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: It's been beautiful to hear your story and to just
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: see where you are at in your life and where
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: you are going and you gained two more fans.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: And supporters.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: And I'm such a fan of you guys, too. Oh, wow.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: We appreciate it. It's amazing. Yeah. I do want to
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: end with our question.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: So we started this last episode. You will receive a
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: question from our previous guest. Ooh. And I will present
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: that to you.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: But we also want you to ask a question for
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: us to give to the person sitting here after you.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: And see what the question is. Isn't this fun?
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: This is cool.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: Have you guys seen it yet? Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Was
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: there a moment when you realized that you're more like
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: your parent than you thought? If so, how did that
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: make you feel? What a great question.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: Is that good? Great question.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, so many moments. I think there's always
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: mixed feelings on it. Because I think it's very easy
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: to blame your parents for Um, especially if you're like, well,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have done it that way. Well, if I
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: was in your position, I just would not have treated
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: me that way. But as I've grown and like realized,
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: I just want to be happy instead. I've just tried
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: to have like, so just compassion. Like, yeah, just try to,
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: just try to understand like, okay, I wouldn't have done
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: it that way, but I'm a different person. I was
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: raised differently. And that's just how you know how to
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: like handle your cards right now. And I've never doubted
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: that they haven't loved me. But I will say that like,
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: I will say, I think I'm so different from my mom.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: Like in my head, I'm just like, vastly different. We
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: don't have a single similarity in my mind. That's just
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: how we are so, we grew up so different. I
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: was such a little tyrant and she was such a girl,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: such a girly girl. And I think as I've grown,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: I've leaned more into my femininity, but I was wearing
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: board shorts and I was wearing rash guards instead of bikinis.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: I was not, I was not trying to do that.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: Like she's super into fitness and I'm not trying to run.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: Like I'm not.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: Trying to run.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: Even just like how we like are, I think is
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: inherently different. But recently it was for her birthday. Her
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: friends and I, we all got drunk together.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's fun.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: And her. Yes. And I think it was one of
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: the first times where I was like, Wait a second.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: She was very free of inhibition. And there was just
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: like moments where I was like, oh my God, that's
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: literally all me. And my friends tell me all the time,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: like Lucky will tell me like, girl, you're just like
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: your mom. And I'll always be like, what are you
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: talking about?
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: Like, no, I'm not.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, you're funny. I think you
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: guys and your parents are kind of funny. I'm like, wait,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: you guys are funny. Now I see where I get that.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: And now I see where I get that. And, like,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: I think now it makes me really happy to see.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: Because it's kind of ostracizing if you don't see yourself
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: in your parents, I think. Because it's like, well, where
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: did I come from then? Like, if I'm not like you,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: then who do I get to be? But, yeah, I think, like,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: seeing a lot of the good and the bad in
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: both of them, it's like, okay, that's okay. So, yeah,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: being drunk with her.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: I was like, you're actually really, really cool.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: You're laughing at the same thing I'm laughing at right now,
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: which means you have my humor. And you're actually, like,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: really cool. So, yeah. My mom is really cool. All
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: my friends literally are obsessed with her.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: I met your mom. She's so sweet.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: And they think she's so funny. And, like, of course,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: when you're, like, the daughter, you're like, my parents are
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: not that funny. Like, guys, stop.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: You're glazing.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: Not your glazing. No, they're actually, like, really, she's really funny.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: And she's really cool. So, yeah. I think, yeah, that's
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: how I'd answer it. I'm very happy now when I
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: get to see myself in my mom and dad. It's
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: very cool. It's very cool. Especially when you have like
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: a sense of who you are, then you get to
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: like see the things that you love. And if there's
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: anything you don't, you get to pay attention to that.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: And then you're like, okay, I'm going to focus on
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: that so I can do things a little differently. Yeah.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: It's everyone's first time.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: Beautifully said. Beautifully said. Well, you don't have to share
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: with us your question, but you can write it and then...
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: Wasn't that good? It was a great question. We have
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: her question and.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: We will pass it to our next guest. I hope
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: they like it.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: No, they will. Again, you were phenomenal.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: So good.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: We had an incredible time.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: You guys make it so easy to settle in and
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: talk and not.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: Feel any pressure. That's definitely a compliment.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: We felt like a girly sleepover talk. That's what we wanted.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: That's what we wanted. Thank you guys for tuning in
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  Speaker 2: to today's episode of Born to the Game. I'm your host, Mariah.
• 1:35:52
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