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Furness Show 11-3: Hugh Millen and Mike Sando · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now from the Star Rentals Sports to Jordan ninety three
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  Speaker 1: point three KJRFMS Sports headlines headlines brought to you by
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  Speaker 1: Frostbrew cors I choose chill. Seahawks huge winner the Washington
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  Speaker 3: today what he says more on that injury.
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  Speaker 2: We're not even gonna mess around.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna get right into hardcore football here on this
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  Speaker 3: Monday afternoon. After a resounding Seahawk victory in the Nation's Capitol.
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  Speaker 3: Well not really, it's about an hour's drive outside of
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  Speaker 3: the Nation's capital. We get to that dump of a stadium.
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  Speaker 3: But hey, that dump of a stadium. It's been pretty
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  Speaker 3: good to the Seahawks. I think they've won the last
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  Speaker 3: three or four times they've been back there, including a
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  Speaker 3: playoff game. But away we go, Seahawks get to win.
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  Speaker 3: Hugh Millan is here hardcore football. Hello, sir, how are you?
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  Speaker 3: What's happening? I'm will How are you? I'm very good.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very good. We got a lot to get to today.
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  Speaker 3: Let me I'm gonna Sam Darnell obviously top of the list,
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  Speaker 3: and we're going to get into that from r QB one,
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  Speaker 3: mister Hugh Millen in the second and JSN and what
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  Speaker 3: that offense did obviously a lot of defensive conversation as well,
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  Speaker 3: with the dominating effort they had on that side of
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  Speaker 3: the ball. Let me ask Hugh Millan, who hates anything hypothetical,
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  Speaker 3: but let me throw this at you anyway. Tomorrow is
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  Speaker 3: the trade deadline. How concerned would you be if Ernest
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  Speaker 3: Jones is not out for the season. According to Mike McDonald, yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: but well, he has his news conference later on today,
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  Speaker 3: so we'll see if you get an update if he's
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  Speaker 3: gonna miss X number of games, Hugh, four or five, six,
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  Speaker 3: whatever it might be, maybe even three or four. Would
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  Speaker 3: you be in the market for a linebacker before the
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  Speaker 3: trade deadline tomorrow if you're John Schneider, or would you
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  Speaker 3: just roll with Tyree Knight and Drake Thomas.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: The problem is that if you give up, if you're
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  Speaker 5: trying to get a guy of Ernest Jones caliber, you're
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  Speaker 5: going to be giving up a lot. And uh, well,
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  Speaker 5: we'll we'll see. I'm assuming it's more like a couple weeks.
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  Speaker 5: It seems like it looked like a grade two m
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  Speaker 5: c L. There's a non doctor assessment for a guy
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  Speaker 5: who's had a grade two m c L. You know
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  Speaker 5: when you when when it bends that way, Uh, you
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  Speaker 5: know where your ankle goes outside relative to your knee,
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  Speaker 5: it stretches the inside part of your knee and uh,
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  Speaker 5: and that's the m c L. And doctors, if I
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  Speaker 5: explain that wrong, please text in and correct me. But
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  Speaker 5: but that's that's my understanding of it. And again, I
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  Speaker 5: had that injury, so but I I think that they've
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  Speaker 5: got enough depth. I mean, had they lost them for
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  Speaker 5: the season, maybe I'd be of a different mindset, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: But I think that that's why you draft guys and
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  Speaker 5: and that's why you you know, build your roster, and
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  Speaker 5: and I think there's a certain morale part of that.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you don't just panic and say oh, because
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  Speaker 5: you're trying to sell the team and the unity throughout
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  Speaker 5: the locker. And I think the players would kind of
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  Speaker 5: get it if he was out for the year. But
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  Speaker 5: you know, you know, there's a there's a we all,
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  Speaker 5: we got, we all we need mentality. I don't know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm I'm probably a little reluctant. I'm reluctant on probably
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  Speaker 5: all the fronts. I don't want to trade Rek Woollan.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to trade Boy Mafe, even if you
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  Speaker 5: don't sign those guys.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't think that the Seahawks are sellers right now.
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  Speaker 5: So maybe maybe I got blinders on and there's some
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  Speaker 5: logic that that is evasive to me at this moment.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I I well relatively conservative.
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  Speaker 3: On that, and we've got, luckily, we have a little
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  Speaker 3: bit more time today because unfortunately baseball seasons no longer happening,
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  Speaker 3: So I do want to let me I'm with you
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  Speaker 3: first on the linebacker thing. I mean, first off, if
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  Speaker 3: it's an ACL, they know it's an ACL right away.
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  Speaker 3: They tell you it's that way. So when he came
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  Speaker 3: out last night and said, yeah, he's not done for
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  Speaker 3: the season, you can okay. So it's whatever it might
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  Speaker 3: be with mcl what have you. You kind of probably
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  Speaker 3: live with what you've got there with Tyreese and Thomas
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  Speaker 3: and away you go O'Connell and whoever else they have.
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  Speaker 3: Depth wise, the I'm with you on the Woolen thing,
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  Speaker 3: I get asked out a lot. He would be like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: should they trade Somebody just asked us to the office
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  Speaker 3: here an hour ago, should they trade Wolan? And I said,
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  Speaker 3: did you guys watch the game when they had Pritchett
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  Speaker 3: in there? Like, did you watch that game? Because like
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  Speaker 3: and they don't grow. You've said this before with Freek
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  Speaker 3: Wollen six four two point fifteen, the athleticism, everything he
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  Speaker 3: did at the combine, which you've articulated many times. You
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  Speaker 3: don't just go out and find that guy on the street.
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  Speaker 3: Now you've also talked about is the compete level where
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  Speaker 3: we want it to be.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe not.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe that's the one thing I got to think that
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  Speaker 3: locker room is pushing guys to compete though. I just
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  Speaker 3: I had Jaron Reid on the show last Wednesday. I
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  Speaker 3: shuld talk to him last Wednesday, had him on, we
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  Speaker 3: played it on Friday. I hold on to Greek Wollan.
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  Speaker 3: I hold on to boy Mafe, edge rushers and cornerbacks.
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  Speaker 3: If you're a Super Bowl contenders, for you, you don't
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  Speaker 3: just get rid of those guys, do you. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I think you hold on of those guys. Well, I
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  Speaker 3: think that you look at Reek Wollan. With Witherspoon coming back,
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  Speaker 3: Witherspoon played five snaps in the slot and thirty three
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  Speaker 3: out wide, sixteen on the left, seventeen on the right.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly what we talked about last week. The way
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  Speaker 3: they should play Witherspoon in my opinion, because you know,
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  Speaker 3: he's one hundred and eighty one pounds, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: it reminds me in high school. We had this kid, Colby,
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  Speaker 3: who was our best running back. And I'm the pass
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  Speaker 3: game coordinator, and you know the whole all the formations,
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  Speaker 3: the sets, the language, what routes we ran, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I had that autonomy. And so here Colby, our best
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  Speaker 3: running back, keeps getting concussions. He'd got like his second
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  Speaker 3: or third, and the way they are with the protocol,
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  Speaker 3: you know that you know your second time, they're gonna
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  Speaker 3: sit you down for three or four whatever it was.
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  Speaker 2: I went to the head coach.
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  Speaker 5: I said, we need to even though he's our best
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  Speaker 5: running back, we need to play. We need to have
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  Speaker 5: a full scale conversion to him as a wide receiver
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  Speaker 5: because I'd rather have him as a wide receiver on
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  Speaker 5: the field then even though he's our best running back,
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  Speaker 5: to uh to not have month field? Okay, how does
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  Speaker 5: that apply to Devin Witherspoon. Witherspoon is a tremendous competitor,
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  Speaker 5: and when he's healthy in the slot, throwing his body
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  Speaker 5: around and that quickness, it's it's it's awesome to watch.
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  Speaker 5: But he's still only one hundred and eighty one pounds
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  Speaker 5: and he'd already had you know, prior to yesterday, it'd
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  Speaker 5: only played in two games. And so you've acquired nick
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  Speaker 5: Eman Moorri, who's who's not to one at the combine
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  Speaker 5: like Witherspoon, but exactly two and twenty. So he's thirty
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  Speaker 5: nine pounds heavier. He's a nickel sam. That's that's what
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  Speaker 5: he was best at in South Carolina. That's what he
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  Speaker 5: was best at in the summer. That's what you know
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  Speaker 5: what go to practice. That's what he played, like play
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  Speaker 5: in the position that he played well. The position that
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  Speaker 5: he played was Witherspoon's nickel position. So the logic is
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  Speaker 5: you put Witherspoon outside, which they did. You keep Emma
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  Speaker 5: and Rory fifty seven snaps yesterday, fifty five of fifty
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  Speaker 5: seven snaps are in the nickel. He only had two
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  Speaker 5: as a back half safety, which I think is his
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  Speaker 5: competitive disadvantage. So I don't like him back there, but
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  Speaker 5: you know, just so that there's at least something you
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  Speaker 5: have to prepare for. I don't mind two snaps back there.
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  Speaker 5: So I think it all all fits together. And then
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  Speaker 5: you've got Josh Job, who's who's got physical traits. This
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  Speaker 5: is not some overachiever. He went to Alabama. He's got
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  Speaker 5: the size and the and the skill. And you know
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  Speaker 5: he's coached by Carl Scott's who's the secondary coach with
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  Speaker 5: the Seax. So he's a solid, solid NFL starter. Josh
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  Speaker 5: Job Witherspoon is obviously a great talent. And then so
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  Speaker 5: now you throw Riek Wallan on the bench, and how
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  Speaker 5: did he respond?
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  Speaker 2: We goes in the game.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I made all my comments this morning about
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  Speaker 5: you know, his man coverage coverage. I made all my
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  Speaker 5: comments today about how well Riek had played before Pro
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  Speaker 5: Football Focus came out with their grade for the game. Well,
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  Speaker 5: I think I think Riek Wollen had the highest grade
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  Speaker 5: of anybody on the whole team on the defense. Ye
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  Speaker 5: if it wasn't the top, it was the second. But
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  Speaker 5: an event, I'm like, yeah, that's what I saw on
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  Speaker 5: the tape too. So so here's a guy that has
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  Speaker 5: a very high ceiling. Yes, inconsistency is a problem, but
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  Speaker 5: by all accounts, what we're talking about, what's our freshest
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  Speaker 5: memory a player in Rek Wallen who was benched and
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  Speaker 5: handled it the right way because when he went out there,
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  Speaker 5: he wasn't pouting, he was just balling and he glu
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  Speaker 5: gloving up guys and so like like, if you're a
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  Speaker 5: six and two team that now you want to make
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  Speaker 5: a push, a January push, a push to January, maybe
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  Speaker 5: a push.
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  Speaker 2: To February, why on earth would you get rid of
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  Speaker 2: that guy. No you don't. I don't think you do.
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  Speaker 3: And like, I'm not that media guy that can pretend
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  Speaker 3: like I'm buddy buddies with guys and no guys and
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  Speaker 3: all that stuff. But I've I've had enough conversations with
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  Speaker 3: Riek Walling over the years. He's just kind of a
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  Speaker 3: mellow I'd say, I don't know if I say nice,
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  Speaker 3: but just kind of. He doesn't when you talk to him.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't come across as the is like, well, Witherspoon
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  Speaker 3: never shuts up, right, just is going and going and going.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, he's what you talk about with the cornerback, right,
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  Speaker 3: you want the big tires and the rims and all
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  Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. That's Witherspoon. That's who he is.
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  Speaker 3: Wallan's cut from a different cloth. But the cloth he's
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  Speaker 3: cut from is six four and over two hundred pounds
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  Speaker 3: and runs and jumps and has length all those things.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that locker room, Hugh, I swear I
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  Speaker 3: was out there on Wednesday and I was talking. I
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  Speaker 3: spent some time with Jared Reid. I think there's there's
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  Speaker 3: elements to it, maybe not Hall of Fame elements like
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  Speaker 3: we saw before. But you've been in an NFL locker room,
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  Speaker 3: so you can attest to this. I think what is
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  Speaker 3: an iron sharpens iron all that stuff. I think that
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  Speaker 3: there's some alpha dogs in that room on the defensive
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  Speaker 3: side that are pushing dudes, and I think they can
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  Speaker 3: make a guy like Greek Wolan better. And you said
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  Speaker 3: it best, he handled it well. And you look at
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  Speaker 3: that defensive performance yesterday. All of a sudden, they're still
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  Speaker 3: without Julian Love, right, I mean they're still without they're
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  Speaker 3: starting safety and yet and even Warry, my god, Hugh,
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  Speaker 3: I just look at this defense and I think I
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  Speaker 3: look at the vets like Reid and and you know,
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  Speaker 3: Big Cat and Shenna and Lawrence, and I think that
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  Speaker 3: there's I think there's something there with this defense. And
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  Speaker 3: you don't want to get rid of guys that can
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  Speaker 3: make big time plays like Riek Wolan can.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I agree with that that they'll kind of
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  Speaker 5: figure out the competitive part of it and he can
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  Speaker 5: improve and and he showed signs of it. And and
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  Speaker 5: what I'm about to say is is entirely unfair. So
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  Speaker 5: this is just my personal conjecture without any inside knowledge
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  Speaker 5: or really any analysis that I could lay down and
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  Speaker 5: give you teeth on. This is just this is just
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  Speaker 5: a uh hubreed live millon hunch. Can I can I
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  Speaker 5: speak in those terms?
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  Speaker 2: I just do it. I want you to do.
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  Speaker 6: So.
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  Speaker 5: I looked up Reek Wills and watching him in training camp.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's it's shocking to me, uh when you stand
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  Speaker 5: next to him, how tall and thin he is. He
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  Speaker 5: is a big, rangy dude. And I've been around you
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  Speaker 5: know a lot of corners through my years. I mean
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  Speaker 5: I was played with Deon Sanders when Dion got drafted,
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  Speaker 5: and and and a bunch of other dudes. And he
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  Speaker 5: is an He is a tall, skinny drink of water.
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  Speaker 5: So I looked up his his high school background and
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  Speaker 5: and you know, just started googling high school background, requelling
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  Speaker 5: all this and that. Well, at one point they describe
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  Speaker 5: him as this dunking slasher like he was an all conference,
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  Speaker 5: like legit basketball player. Well he wasn't good enough to
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  Speaker 5: get you know, a d one scholarship out of it,
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  Speaker 5: but he was damn good. And then he goes to receiver. Well,
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  Speaker 5: I know from coaching twenty four years of youth in
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  Speaker 5: high school football that the guys who want to be
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  Speaker 5: on the team that don't really want to mix it up.
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  Speaker 5: Guess what the ride receiver line is like, thirty five deep,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the the quarterback line is like, is like
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  Speaker 5: four guys and forty four guys want to play receiver.
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  Speaker 5: So he goes to Texas San Antonio and he plays
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  Speaker 5: receiver for three years. They finally move him over to corner.
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  Speaker 5: There's a part of me this is totally unfair, but
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  Speaker 5: there's a part of me that thinks that this guy
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  Speaker 5: was first and foremost and aspiring basketball player, secondly a
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  Speaker 5: wide receiver, and then his compared of advantage as an
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  Speaker 5: athlete led him into being a corner. But that's not
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  Speaker 5: where his true hard is now. Devin Witherspoon, Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that's one of the four guys in high school. He
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  Speaker 5: wants to get scrappy. He wants to nail down right Like,
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  Speaker 5: when he looks in the mirror, he actually sees a
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  Speaker 5: middle linebacker, but the scale doesn't say so. So the
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  Speaker 5: next best thing is that he's got to be a nickel,
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  Speaker 5: right Like. He wants to go like, he wants to headhunt,
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  Speaker 5: right Like, that is a bonafide legitimate football alpha competitors, right,
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  Speaker 5: and I love it and we should all love it.
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  Speaker 5: In my opinion, i'd argue to it. If you don't
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  Speaker 5: love it, what's wrong with you? But I do think
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  Speaker 5: that there's something about Rik Woolen that, you know, gets
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  Speaker 5: a little wonky on these issues.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what, what's.
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  Speaker 5: Freshness on my mind? A damn good game yesterday and
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  Speaker 5: in man coverage gloving up on those in routes. I'll
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  Speaker 5: tell you one thing. I'm watching him with all that length.
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  Speaker 5: Then I was like, if I'm Jayden Daniels, I want
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  Speaker 5: no part of throwing that in cut because because Reek
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  Speaker 5: Wooland can burst out of there and with that length,
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  Speaker 5: he can just snatch it from you. And and so
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  Speaker 5: I don't know why. You know, if you were two
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  Speaker 5: and six, Yeah, trade with Reek Woolan today. Yeah, last week,
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  Speaker 5: You're not two and six, you're six and two. Hang
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  Speaker 5: under your deph Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Let me do this. Let me ask you about the defense.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk about Donald the next segment. UH punt interception,
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  Speaker 3: fumble punt uh, and then a late touchdown drive at
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  Speaker 3: the in the first half. This this game was won
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  Speaker 3: in the first half, obviously with what Donald in the
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  Speaker 3: offense did putting up the points in the perfect half
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  Speaker 3: he had. But when we're watching that defense, when they've
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  Speaker 3: added Emon Warri to that defense. You just talked about
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  Speaker 3: the corners, the pressure they're getting. I believe again a
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  Speaker 3: lot of times four man rush is what just jumps out.
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  Speaker 3: What jumped out at Hugh Mill and what they were
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  Speaker 3: doing that Mike McDonnell defense to Jade and Daniels that
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  Speaker 3: offense in the first half.
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  Speaker 5: Well, the first question I had going into the game
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  Speaker 5: is now that they've got Witherspoon and Emon, worry, what
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  Speaker 5: are they going to do? They've been a nickel team.
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: They were number one, uh going into the game. They
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: were number one in the NFL in terms of percentage
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: on plane nickel. They were twentieth in percentage of playing
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: dime at just three and a half percent. So I
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: had theorized, and what I would have done was again,
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: play Witherspoon to the outside. I'd be I'd be pulling
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: a Colby decision like, hey, you're great inside, but I
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: need you healthy, and your frame says, let's play you outside.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: So that was what I was suggesting last week, and
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: in fact, you know they did that. I mean, Witherspoon
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: only played five snaps in the slot. Where I was
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: wrong was I thought that they would up their their
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: dime play. They only had four plays of dime, so
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: and and and the way the Seahawks would have your
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: your dime, you would have Uh, You'd have Ernest Jones
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: as the MIC. You'd have Witherspoon and even Worry on
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: the either side of him, essentially playing linebacker. One's a
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: nickel will one's a nickel Sam so so Will is
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: just weak side linebacker. Sam is strong side linebacker.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: Then you'd have Josh job On on one side, Riek
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: Willen on the other, and then Kobe Bryant and Ocatta
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: or when Love when he comes back as your back end. Guys,
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: that's your dime. And I thought we'd see more of that.
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: We only saw four, So I think it was mostly
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: what I expected. A little bit of a surprise in
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: that regard. We'll see how it evolves. But so and
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: then from there, there were five plays where the Seahawks
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: brought a dB Okay just five because there's mostly a
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: four man rush, but the five times they did it
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: that you had a one for four for Jayden Daniels
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: the interception, Ocata's interception was on one of those five.
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: So at the what was the yield on those five plays?
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: Daniels goes one for four for ten yards and interception,
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: and a seven yard scramble on fourth and fifteen that
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: was the one where Big Cat made the tackle, so
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: that would be an unsuccessful play from the offensive perspective.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: So really good production out of just five plays where
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: they brought the dB. So so I'm just trying to
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: get my you know, real twenty twenty vision on what
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: Mike McDonald ultimately wants, and we're not going to really
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: know it until we see everybody on the field. Right,
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: We're getting a slightly fuzzy vision, but it's becoming more
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: into clarity because Witherspoon was healthy and m and Worry
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: was healthy, and until yesterday that had you'd only had
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: Am and Worry play four snaps yep of the season yep.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: And so we're learning, and I think we all like
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: what we're learning.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: We saw all of that with their Mike linebacker getting
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: hurt and their starting safety in Julian Love not playing
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: as well. I'm with you, Let's see what happens when
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: you add those two guys to what you already have.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Could be a pretty daunting task for opposition offense, is Heugh,
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: let's take a break. We'll come back. We somewhat buried
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: the lead a lot of times. If a guy throws
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: for two to eighty two and four touchdowns in a game,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: we'd call that a great game. Right here, that'd be
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: a great game. Some guy did that yesterday in the
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: first thirty minutes of the game. His name was Sam Donnald.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: We'll talk about that offense coming up next.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: All right, let's go. Let's check him with h Millen.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: We got hardcore football, continuing, Hugh, Let's get to the
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: offense and just Sam Donald.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: When the decision was made, let Gino go to or
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: send Gino to to Vegas and not signed to the
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: big contract, bring in Sam Donald instead. There were people
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: across the country raising Eyebrown said, I don't know what
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: the Seahawks are doing.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: What's going on?
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: You're downgrading a quarterback and Donald can't replicate what he
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: did last year. There's a long lot of season left.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Eleven games left in the seat and only a nine
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: games left in the season out right, nine, I'm not right?
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Six and two, Yeah, but there's a lot of football
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: left to be played. But what he did yesterday sixteen
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: of sixteen to eighty two, four touchdowns, and what he's
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: done this year, because you've talked about it, we talked
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: about with Cosell and we had the two of you
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: on a couple weeks ago. It's not like Sam Donald's
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: drinking and dunking, is it.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: No, he's pushing the ball down the field. He's number
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: one in the NFL and yards per attempt, yards per
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: completion yesterday isn't gonna hurt that, it's going to help.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: And I think that what he's excelling at. And you
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: know I was careful in my words. I said, look,
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: I don't know what Sam Donald is going to be
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: in twenty twenty five, but one thing I will do,
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: after watching all of the plays of Geno Smith for
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: the Seahawks in twenty twenty four and watching all of
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: the plays for Sam Donald with the Vikings, I will
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: fight you on a beat to assert that Sam Donald
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: was a better quarterback than Geno Smith in twenty twenty four.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: And you know, just in any way that you would say, okay, well,
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: it's important for a quarterback, and what you saw last
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: night is really he's excelling at the elements that I
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: think are the hardest. What makes quarterbacking difficult is you
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: got to see the movie before it happens. You've got
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: to anticipate that when JSN is coming into those windows
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: over the middle of the field, that he can anticipate
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: the windows he is.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: He is maneuver.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: He is maneuvering underneath defenders like like he's got a joystick.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: And and I'll tell you a principle among them, Bobby
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Wagner from the first completion where he held him on
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: where Bobby Wagner in man coverages what's called a lurk.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: He's just he's he's a shallow hole player. He's there
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: to spy on a on a on a scrambled Darnold's
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: not a big thread in that regard, but he's helped
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: there to help on on shallow crosses and to just
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: be a shallow free safety. He worked his eyes there.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: Then Bobby Wagner is the hook zone underneath defender. If
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: you want to say, uh, compare it to an outfield
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: uh and an infield. He's like the shortstop or the
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: second basement on different coverages. He's manipulating the holes and
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: and just how he's looking and you can see that
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: it's all a plant. He knows where he wants to go,
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: but he says, well, let me first move the defenders
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: so that I can hit these spots the accuracy he's got.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: There are three quarterbacks that I've studied over fifty years
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: watching the position NFL quarterbacks who have materially changed their
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: mechanics from college to pro. Number one is Aaron Rodgers.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: Watch him in Cali. Used to have the ball up
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: by his ear was goofy. He got it more natural
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: down as a packer and he's going to the Hall
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: of Fame and so a big change in his mechanics.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: Number two is Josh Allen. Josh Allen had a high
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: shoulder coming out of Wyoming, high elbow. He got it
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: down much more of a level lower elbow release, and
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: he feels much more comfortable, and he's talked about that
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: most notably in a documentary with Jason Garrett on the
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: NFL Network. And then number three is Sam Darnold. You
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: go watch his prota at USC and he had a
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: big loopy wind up down ball come blow his waist.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: I hated his release, and he has he has got
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: that thing more compact the ball, the loop that it
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: comes down, it doesn't go down nearly as low. And
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: now he's got in his game, he's got this this
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: arm talent that he's displaying where his shoulder doesn't come
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: all the way through on the throw. He can stop
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: his shoulder halfway instead of getting his right shoulder up
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: over his left toe like the way a pitcher would.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: He can just he can just snap it. And he's
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: just flicking it and and his shoulder stops and then
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: boom it Just it's like a slingshot and and and
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: he and and just the quickness of his wrist and
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: fingers are snapping with the ball with high revolution. Uh,
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: that's more aerodynamically efficient, less aerodynamic drag, which means more velocity.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: So he is he is, he has he has materially
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: changed his throwing motion. He's he still has the accuracy. Remember, now,
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: this is a guy that what hung fifty points against
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: Penn State in a memorable Rose Bowl. Right, this guy
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: was a a true thoroughbred coming out of college. And
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: and and yet he has refined his mechanics and there's
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: a calmness to him. You know, there's three types of
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: mentalities that you can have as a quarterback, and two
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: of them can win. You can be a feisty like
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: Brett Favre like you know, feisty, positive, burning competitor and
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: everybody gets inspired by that and you know a lot
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: of fervor and emotion and what have you if it's
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: a positive. Or you can be just a Joe cool
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: like everything's calm the quarterback. Hey, our quarterback is always
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: in control. He's never too high, never too low. But
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: what you can't be is the emotional negative emotion. Like
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: we saw too much from Gino Smith with where he's
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: thrown his helmet. He's got the bad body language, he's cut,
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: you know, he's he's given stink eye to the teammates.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Like he was an emotional guy. Emotions.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: Fine, played your personality, but you got what you got
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: two out of three that you can pick. You can't
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: pick the third. You can't be an emotional negative guy.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: And there was too much of that from Geno. Sam
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: Donald's more of the second. Less emotional. He's not you know,
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: he's not a burning Baker Mayfield type competitor. Doesn't need
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: to be let Baker be Baker. That's great, that works
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: and you know what, in the end, you put the
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: team in the end zone, people will follow you. But
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: it's really hard to to do what Gino was doing.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: And uh and and so I think Donald in his play,
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: in his comportment, I think it's just a win win
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: for Seattle.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: What did the when did the mechanics change? Was it
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: when he went to when he's backing up in San
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Francisco with Shanahan?
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Do you think or when do you think that changed?
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I think it was kind of a slow roll. Okay,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I don't have a great answer for you.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: I went back, Well, you bring up after this, you
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: bring it up it because when you bring up those
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: three exams, this is not something you see all that often, right, Like,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just no like like for someone to
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: kind of remake who and what they are mechanically, and
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: that just doesn't sound like it happens all that often.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: Generally, quarterback coaches work at the NFL level, They work
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: with your feet, like, hey, let's just make sure that
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: our feet are where where our eyes should be, so
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: that our our weight the kinetic energy, the kinetic transfer
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: of the weight. You know, it's just like a golf
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: swing or a baseball or a tenant. You know, there's
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: a lot of weight transfer thing. Uh sports that have
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: a lot in common, bowling, whatever, you know, you you
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: wanna you want to be you know as a right
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: hand or be on your most of your weight on
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: your right foot. Then then your hips are gonna lead
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: your shoulders. Your shoulder is going to lead to arm.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: There's all, it all, all the kinetic chain is supposed
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: to time up together, and then you end up with
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: you know, ideally on your left foot. I mean, if
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: you remember Gary Player, the uh the golfers, one of
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: five guys who has a Grand Slam uh YouTube Gary Player,
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: he would he would hit shot and he would walk
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: down the fairway as he hit his shot because he
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: wanted to remind himself, hey, I've got to have this
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: weight transfer.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: And so that's some important stuff.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: So but getting back to NFL coaches, and I backed
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: up three Hall of Fame quarterbacks and three additional Pro
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: bowlers beyond that, and and I just have never seen
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: quarterback coaches try and change mechanics. Nobody tried to change
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: my throwing motion. Nobody tried to change anybody else as
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: I ever saw. It's like, dude, you're in the NFL.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: If you can't throw a football, we'll get somebody else
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: who can. Is kind of the mentality and and so.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: But so I think it's relatively not many guys change
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: their upper body mechanics. They work on their feet, yes,
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: that's very common, but their upper body mechanics. You don't
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: see a lot of guys doing that. But you go
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: watch Sam Darnold at USC and compare them to what
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: you saw last night. Huge difference. Maybe it's my eye
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: that just sees it a little bit more granularly, not
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: that I see everything, but I've looked at it for
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: over fifty years and coached it and what have you.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: So I can definitely see that ball is not coming
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: down anywhere near as low as it used to be
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: with USC. I remember that famous game in Husky Stadium
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: when when the Trojans beat the Huskies, when when Chris
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: Peterson had the Huskies rolling high and sc came in
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: and just put it to them. With Sam Darnold in
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: his first year starting, so I've vivid memories of what
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: that guy looked at He looks a lot different now.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: It's just it's a cleaner release. And by the way,
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: like look, do you remember the end of the second quarter,
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: Just to give you an example of where I think
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: his mechanics are, they put Jackson Smith and Jigba in
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: the backfield as a halfback. Now, earlier in the first quarter,
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: they had done that in the first drive and on
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: a little option route against zone they end up getting
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: was it thirteen or no, fourteen yards out of that.
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: But now they come back at the end of the
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: second quarter and they get manned to man and in
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: Jigba starts to break to the outside. I think that
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: Darnald thought he was gonna break it to the flat
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: because he can either break it in he would hook
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: against zone. Well it wasn't zone, so he's not gonna
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: hook it. So either gonna break.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: In or out.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: But he also clearly has the green light to take
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: it vertical if he wants. So he comes up, stalks
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: the defendering man and then he and he releases outside.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: At that point you see Donald start to cock his
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: arm like he's he wants to throw, but his base
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: stays solid. His feet basically don't move. He's still loaded
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: on his right side. Where you need to be. You
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: need to have most of your weight sixty seven percent.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: He stays loaded on his right side. Yes, his arm
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: goes up, but his lower body is nice and calm,
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: keeps his his center right over where it should be,
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: just to the to the right of center. And now
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: he reloads with his arm and then in the release
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: that I'm talking about, it's like an arm talent throw.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: He just kind of his his shoulder barely gets through.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: It's like he stands and he throws it from from
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: the phone booth, like there's not this big violent weight transfer.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: He just flicks it out there. And that's after having
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: been fooled about what in Jigbab would do. But he
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: walks it. He literally walks it to him up the
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: sideline for I think like a twenty two yard game
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: as in Jigba catches it and fades out of bounds.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: That's the one where he remember they had to review
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: whether his knees down and big play.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: That's a three point completion. Yes, arguably, that's a three
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: point pass.
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: And and and and and I'm sitting in here marveling
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: that his mechanics, Like, dude, that is like perfection.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: That's teaching tape stuff right there. I love it.
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: And he didn't have teaching tape mechanics when he came
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: out of USC.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna pivot here. It's an audible for us.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Jess, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I need, I need Hugh
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: one more segment because there's two things I want to
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: ask him about. One we wrap up hardcore football. We
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: started talking about trade deadline tomorrow. I'm gonna ask you.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: This is a tease you so don't answer it yet.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: This is a tea professional teas here, professional radio guy. Yeah,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna ask you about the right guard position
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: number one with the trade deadline looming, and number two
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: we come back. No Cooper Cup, no Jake Bobo, no
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Jarek Young. I want to ask you about the epside.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: We've everyone's talked about JSN and rightfully so, guys having
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: an incredible season. He's on pace for an NFL record
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: in terms of yards. I'm all on that. I'm gonna
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: ask you about the kid that you know very well,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: who your son through to at Colorado State, Tory Horton
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: four catches forty eight yards too touchdown yesterday. I want
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: to ask you about the P side and what it
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: is about Tory Horton that you like when you watch him.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: That could make him special down the road, because it'd
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: be a nice complimentary piece to have this guy continue
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: to progress. We'll talk about that next our core football
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: fall hemail and wrapping up. We got a few minutes here,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: about five minutes, so let's bang this out. He LEAs
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: start first with Tory Horton. You knew him well, you
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: watched your son played with him at Colorado State. Injuries
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: pushed him down further in the draft, but when he
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: was drafted, I know you were very bullish on the draft,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: like the pick and thought the upside. You know, one
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: game and we've seen flashes from him this season. Give
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: me your your your what are your eyes or your
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: hardcore eyes? Tell us about what Tory Horton can be.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: I think he's given you great production for a fifth
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: round rookie. Right and and you know without cup, the
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: defense dictated he'd get the first play. Uh, you know,
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: perfect angle if he was flattery, goes into the lurking
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: linebacker wagoner, if he goes higher than the corner can undercut,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: it's like a perfect angle. So you get a slant
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: to start off the game.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: Uh. That the touchdown. I would not say he didn't
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: bathe himself in glory. The first touchdown, I think that
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: was more Sam Darnold gorgeous play. That's that's where on
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: a bootleg left down by the goal line, Horton has
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: to He's got to lose his leverage. He's got to
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: come inside because he if if he breaks a corner
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: route too close to the sideline, you're gonna run out
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: of room. So he had to lose leverage get on
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: the inside on an outside breaking route where you don't
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: want to be. Then he he has to cross back
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: and across the defender's face a perfect spot by uh
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: Donald under duress uh where he so to me that
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: was a Darnald play. But the second touchdown, that's where, Okay,
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: you're playing man man everybody across the board except the
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: free safety. Instead of playing in the post, he is
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: now double covering bracketing JSN all right.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: So so uh.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: From from his position on the point of the of
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: the U of the the bunch, which means he's on
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage, he's more likely to get jammed,
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: like he could really get stifled. But he has a
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: great release to the inside. But Now Sandra still, uh,
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: the the Michigan you know, great player out of Michigan.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: He he thinks, okay, he's inside releasing because he doesn't
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: have free safety help in the middle because the free
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: safety is bracketing over on JSN. Now Sandra still says, well,
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna play the the the deep over route,
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: the high intermediate crossing route. Well, when he does that,
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: you know it would have been it's a fair gamble.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: It's like it's like a referee on a PK kicking
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: soccer right, like you know, jump left.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: You know, hopefully he doesn't kick it right.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: You know, you know, at that point, with no safety help,
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: you kind of got to gamble a little bit. So
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: Sandra still gambles on the inside and and in full speed.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: You got Horton give a little nod to the post
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: that accentuates that, but not enough to trip up the quarterback.
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: And now he breaks back to the corner. Unbelievable job
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: by Kirk uh Kin, Clint Kubiak calling a cover seven beater,
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: that bracket beater, and then Horton executing it like a
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: ten year perfect match like like that. That is big
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: time receiving so at any event, yeah, no, lots to like,
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: lots to like.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know we heard enough about how you
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: know the the commanders were missing wide receivers.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you were. They were a misre receivers. I
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: get that.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: But you're the ones that signed a twenty nine year
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: old beat up Deebo Samuel and based your life on
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: you know, McLaurin, et cetera. Seattle was missing guys too,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: and other guys stepped up, including Cody White. Later, Okay,
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: trade deadline tomorrow. There's one weak spot, maybe one and
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: a half if we want to look at Lucas and
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: not having the year we thought. Although I've got a
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: kid I live with, that tells me it's more of
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: the problem the guy inside that he's having to compensate for.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: But he's a tackle, So what am I expecting anyway? Bradford,
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Anthony Bradford, can they should they upgrade if possible with
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: the trade at that position.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: Well, let's just have a level headed argument here, because
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: I was pretty critical, probably more on Softy Show. I
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: think I had my most strident critique of Bradford, and
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: you know, I said, look candidly, I'm an analyst here,
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: I think out of twenty two starters, Bradford is the lowest.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm not here to embarrass people, So you
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: tell me the language I should use, and I'll say
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: the softest way I can. But I think he's number
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: twenty two out of twenty two starters. And you know,
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: to that end, the Pro Football Focus had him the
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: seventy out of eighty three qualifying offensive guards.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: This is twenty twenty.
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: Last year he had the seventy eighth overall, sixtieth in
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: run block, but seven and seventy third in past block
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: out of eighty three qualifiers. Right so, and in theory
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: there's you should be in the top sixty four if
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: you're a starting guard, right so. And then now he
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: sits at he's seventy four out of eighty four eighty
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: five qualifier for this season. This season, he's seventy fourth
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: in blocking run block, he's fifty first past block, he's
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: eighty third out of eighty five. So you know, there
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: was a you know, a guy in the blogosphere that
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: early in the summer is like, hey, you want to
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: take shots at Anthony Bradford.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: That's a you problem or whatever it is.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: You know, somebody got kind of defensive about about Anthony Bradford. Look,
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: I'm going to stick to everything I've said that I
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: think that he is the liability on the offensive line
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: and and he is of twenty two starters, the lowest starter,
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: and and so if you want to upgrade there, I
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: think there's an opportunity, you know, if you have an
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: opportunity to do it now, there there is with this asterisk,
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: and I know we're up against it. It's different than
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: acquiring a defensive lineman because defensive linemen are much more
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: It's an individual. It's like baseball, right, Like you can
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: plug in a guy halfway through the season much more
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: so than you can unless the guy has played in
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: your system and knows your terminology and how you like
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: to make your checks. So I think you have to
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: you have to confine yourself to the pool of players
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: that know Clint Kubiak system. Otherwise you could get a
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: really good player in somebody else's system. By the time
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: they really picked up the nuances and the communication, you know,
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: you could be well into December. So so uh so, yeah,
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: I think Bradford there, you know, it is what it is.
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: There's got to be a week link somewhere right, and
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: I think he's the weak link. So with those with
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: those thoughts, I would That's how I would approach a
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: possible upgrade.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Great stuff, my friend. As always, I think more. I
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: think more for today with you or with Sophty, I
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: do believe, and we'll talk in a week's time. After
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: the game against the Cardinals, Thank you, my friend.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: Thanks.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: That is hum mill and hardcore football in the books.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: After a huge Seahawks win. Great stuff. We're all, uh,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: we're all smarter football wise. After talking to Hugh for
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: an hour. We'll take a break.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Come back.
• 39:55
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  Speaker 3: Sunday Night Football last night. Sam Darnold perfect in the
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  Speaker 3: first half, finished twenty one of twenty four to three
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  Speaker 3: thirty four touchdowns, interception, Jackson Smith and Jigba eight grabs,
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• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Mike Sando joins us right now for the first time
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: on this show this season. We've had Mike on for
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: a lot of years. Last past number of years from
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: The Athletic, he's been doing the morning show, his normal
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: morning show, Dudsion and football season. And I'll apologize to
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Mike on the air. I didn't have much control because
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: the baseball team, Mike just kept winning and we kept
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: doing baseball much longer than we're used to in this market,
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: and with a two hour our show this year, I
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: didn't have time to There's a lot of guys I
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: wanted to get on that I normally have on that
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: we're starting to add back into the mix, and you're
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: one of them, and I appreciate you coming back on
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: again this year, even though I blew you off for
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: the baseball team for a while.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Hey, it's a great cause.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Welcome.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: I think that had to be back by the way, but
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: it's a great cause.
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: I mean, we love to have the baseball team playing
• 42:17
  Speaker 7: deep end of the the postseason. So a small price
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: to pay or the trade off was worth it. Wish
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: they would have gone to the World Series. But uh,
• 42:24
  Speaker 7: what a great season, what a great season.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: I just I opened up the old x Twitter here
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: just a second ago, and I saw you tweeted something
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: out in response to dan Quinn's press conference today.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Let's start with that. You wrote about it as well
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: in the Athletic today.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: A lot of people, especially Commanders fans kind of like,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: what's going on?
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Why was Jayden and Daniels in there so late? Down
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: by so many?
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: You know, the score and everything like that, And this
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: isn't a norm like and if this isn't college, right,
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: like you don't we're not having a JV game where
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: guys get put in against X number of snaps, right,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: So it's it wasn't really out of the ordinary.
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: It's not you know, it's not. And I look back
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: at you know, even when you're down by thirty one,
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: it's high to pull your quarterback at twelve minutes left
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: in the game. But maybe that's a change, you know,
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: maybe maybe teams should do that more. I think a
• 43:08
  Speaker 7: lot of people want to have a fight to the
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: finish mentality, and some teams are, hey, you were part
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: of what got us into this. You got to finish
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: it out, you know. So we've seen great quarterbacks Tom Brady,
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: you know, the rare times he was way behind, or
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: even when they're way ahead, staying in there when as
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: a fan you're probably looking at it going, well, you
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: know why, So it's probably something worth you know, talking
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: about or revisiting. But dan Quinn didn't do anything out
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: of the ordinary by leaving him in. I think now
• 43:33
  Speaker 7: that the guy got hurt, I think he's you know,
• 43:36
  Speaker 7: expressing regret not only for that and saying, hey, I
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: wish I would have done it differently. And that's probably
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: the easiest way to move on for him, as opposed
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: to sticking by his guns and saying, oh, everybody does
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: it right. I mean, now it's hey, he said I
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: felt bad, Maya Koppa and there's nothing more to talk about.
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's it feels as if and I only
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: bring up Washington because it's the latest team. The Seattle
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: play playoff team a year ago. Elder kind of an
• 44:04
  Speaker 7: older team, right, and you kind of just maybe comparing
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: contrast for our listeners.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: You wrote about this.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: I think it's really interesting because I was talking to
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: our mid Day guy right when we do our cross
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: talk segment today, and you know, I was like, God,
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: what happened to the Commanders and then twelve wins last
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: season and look at Seattle and different ways to construct
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: a team with a new head coach Washington maybe wasn't sustainable.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Is that safe to say?
• 44:25
  Speaker 7: Well, they you know, they decided, well, they decided to
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: go with a lot of older veteran players, and to
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: their credit, they did not sign most of them to
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: long term deals, so they've been able to move on,
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: but they've been old. And I think they felt like, hey,
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: they got guys that were familiar to Dan Quinn or
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: other coaches. They were trying to change the culture there quickly.
• 44:46
  Speaker 7: It had been a really toxic kind of a place
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: with Dan Snyder all those years. So yeah, they wanted
• 44:50
  Speaker 7: to bring in guys that were going to be sort
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: of the acolytes for Dan Quinn. And I think it
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: worked the first year and they, like I said, they
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: stayed flexible, but we've also seen them trade for older
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: veteran players. You know, between Deebo Samuel from the forty
• 45:04
  Speaker 7: nine ers, Laramie Tunsell from the Texans, and Marshall Latimer
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: from the Saints. I think I think they traded like
• 45:12
  Speaker 7: eight draft picks for those three guys, and they're all older.
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: Marshall Latimer is not that good anymore. Deebo Samuels twenty nine,
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: you know, has some injury history, and I think Larmie
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: Tunsel is a good player, but you know, he's an
• 45:23
  Speaker 7: older tackle. I don't really felt them as much for
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: Tunsl But you know, when you look at Seattle, it
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: was getting rid of some veteran players to get draft picks.
• 45:32
  Speaker 7: So you're you're moving on from Geno Smith, You're moving
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: on from DK Metcap, and then you are maybe targeting
• 45:39
  Speaker 7: some cheaper veterans. You know, DeMarcus Lawrence, who or even
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: Cooper Cup wasn't that cheap. But they're guys who maybe
• 45:46
  Speaker 7: are mentors for your younger players and set the tone
• 45:50
  Speaker 7: by how they play. But you're really filling that roster
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: with you know, Arroyo at tight end, Horton at wide receiver.
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: You know Gray's abel on the offensive line. They already
• 46:02
  Speaker 7: had a Byron Murphy up front, right, They've got Witherspoon
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: a corner, some younger players there. That makes you have
• 46:10
  Speaker 7: a little bit more of a future with the same
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: guys you can build around.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: Like Santo Jonius from the Athletic, what's your overall assessment,
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: thirty thousand feet looking around. You've covered and been around
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: this team for a long time living in our area,
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: even though you cover the NFL nationally. Mike McDonald and
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: his team this second year.
• 46:27
  Speaker 7: Well, there's been a couple of hiccups, but for the
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: most part, I feel like they really are taking a
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: next step, that the frustrations of last season are largely gone.
• 46:40
  Speaker 7: Now they've had a hiccup or two here, I think
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: they've still got to beat the forty nine ers in RAMS.
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: I think that's going to be what sort of puts
• 46:47
  Speaker 7: it over the top. Right, there's no doubt that they're
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: on the right track, and I think there's no doubt
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: that they're a top eight team in the NFL. Now,
• 46:56
  Speaker 7: let's go beat the forty nine ers in the RAMS,
• 46:59
  Speaker 7: which is hard for them to do, and I think
• 47:01
  Speaker 7: if they do that.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: It really makes the year.
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: Validates everything this year in terms of where they're at.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: You wrote about the AFC. I'm going to get to
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: the AFC in a second, but the NFC.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: I just we were watching the game a handful of
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: people yesterday and conversation came up, like who the who
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: the favorite in the NFC is, And I said, well, gosh,
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: you know, I think the I think the Lions are there.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Then they lose the Vikings, the Packers, I'm thinking, but
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: then they lose Tucker Kraft and it doesn't feel like
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of weapons right now for Jordan Love either.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Something off there with that particular team. You know, the
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: forty nine Ers have a zillion injuries, they just keep
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: winning their six and three. The Rams look to me
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: like maybe the best team. I'm sorry, Seahawks, but the
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Rams look like they're the elite team along the way.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: You just kind of look around this league. Sure, I
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: guess the Eagles will come into play too at six
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: and two, But the Bucks seem to be good, but
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: we've seen them have a couple blemishes and handicapped. The NFC.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Is it wide open this year?
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: I think it is pretty open. I think that there's
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: no team that's proven themselves to be, you know, just
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: a juggernaut every week. Now, Philly could get there by
• 48:05
  Speaker 7: the end, but I think they've had They made a
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: trade today by the way, too, got Jalan Phillips from
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: the from the Dolphins. So they're continuing to push as
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: they always do, and they find a way, you know
• 48:14
  Speaker 7: they'll be there.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: But I do I agree with you.
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: I feel like if you're a team like Seattle or Tampa,
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: you're looking at some of these teams that have been
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: the heavyweights in recent years, Philly, Detroit, you know, to
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: some extent, the Rams and definitely the forty nine ers,
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: and you're like, you know, it's not going to be
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: a big upset if they if we beat those guys, right, Yeah,
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: that's what I feel like. I feel like Seattle still
• 48:35
  Speaker 7: has to do it to be in that class. Those
• 48:38
  Speaker 7: teams have been there, They've been the championship games. You
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: not Tampa, not as much after Tom Brady, but they've
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: been a you know, they've won in the playoffs. I
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: think Seattle still has to win in the playoffs to
• 48:47
  Speaker 7: get there. But I don't see any reason why they couldn't.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: Mike, is it still. I mean, it just seems like
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: health has to be so much in this league. I mean,
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: and one or two key injuries can just be catastrophic.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: I mentioned you know who thought Tucker craft injury would
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: be catastrophic for the Packers, but it certainly is a
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: massive hit for them. I'm thinking of the Bengals, you know, preseason,
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: you know, ten and a half, ten point five percent
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: chance to win the conference right nothing now, and it
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: not just Joe Burrow, but the defense can't stop anybody.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: But it's just a weird year of injuries. Same thing Ravens.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: It's not just Lamar, but Lamar was a big piece
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: of it along the way. Just a strange year, especially
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: with big injuries. I think so, But I feel like
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: we say that every other year. You know, I do
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: think that injuries are just part of the game. And
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: some years, you know, certain teams are hit harder than others,
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: and you hope you get some guys back.
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: You know, Arizona's activating a two or three guys now
• 49:38
  Speaker 7: for this game tonight, including their first round pick, a
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: defensive linemen. So you know, you know, the the Ravens
• 49:45
  Speaker 7: have welcome back. They're one of their tight ends, and
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: they've got their full back back and their quarterbacks. So
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: you know, you're you're gonna have to weather some times round,
• 49:55
  Speaker 7: you know, throughout the year.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: And Scales had to too.
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: I mean they've had half two you know, three fourths
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: for their secondary a out and so you've just got
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: to be able to you know, get through and try
• 50:05
  Speaker 7: to be healthy.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: At the right time.
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: So who's really got it in December is what matters
• 50:10
  Speaker 7: the most.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's I mean, the Kansas Cincinnati thing's just kind
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: of a dumpster fire, right, That's just it's that is
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: what it is. Indianapolis. Do you believe in the Colts.
• 50:21
  Speaker 7: I believe in the Colts as a team that could
• 50:23
  Speaker 7: win a playoff game, you know, maybe maybe more than one.
• 50:27
  Speaker 7: I don't think that they're you know that their quarterback
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: is necessarily dynamic, But I think they're good on the lines.
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: I think they're well coached. They have a really good back.
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: The quarterback can run the offense. I think he's sharp.
• 50:41
  Speaker 7: They can handle a lot of stuff, you know, before
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: the line of scrimmage, that sort of a thing. So
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: I do think that they could, you know, certainly win
• 50:51
  Speaker 7: a playoff game.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: I don't think that.
• 50:52
  Speaker 7: They've inititarily go to the super Bowl, but they're certainly
• 50:55
  Speaker 7: better than they've been.
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: Denver's a weird team. He wrote about these guys that
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: they I guess they just win close games. That what
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: Denver does just like win went close for the most part.
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: I mean, you know, they've lost a couple of them too,
• 51:05
  Speaker 7: but they have a six game win streak where, uh,
• 51:09
  Speaker 7: you know, I believe they're you know, their total point
• 51:13
  Speaker 7: differential in that is like fifty five points.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: We'll do the maths on that.
• 51:17
  Speaker 7: For six wins, you're not exactly blowing a bunch.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Of people out.
• 51:19
  Speaker 7: And I think forty five of that is in two
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: of the games, So they've had a they've four of
• 51:24
  Speaker 7: their six game Four of their wins in the six
• 51:27
  Speaker 7: game streak were by ten total points. And I think
• 51:30
  Speaker 7: you can see when you're down nineteen nothing to the
• 51:32
  Speaker 7: Giants and somehow score thirty three in the fourth court,
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: probably not a sustainable formula. But you know, I think
• 51:37
  Speaker 7: they're good on defense, they're pretty good on offense, and
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: they're probably you know, could win a playoff game too.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: I think it makes just for a great year. Is
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: kind of my summary. And just wrote you wrote today,
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: and just having the conversation, I think it's just a
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: fun year, Like it feels like forever it's been all right,
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: bills and Chiefs, and hell, we may get to Bills
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: and Chiefs again in the AFC. Right, that maybe end
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: up what we having in Philadelphia and the Rams or
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: philadel in the forty nine ers. Maybe that's what we
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: end up having. It just feels like it's from a
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: fans perspective and standpoint, just feels like it's a lot
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: more maybe competitive, maybe balanced.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: However we want to look at it this year, right, yep.
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: And I think from a Seattle standpoint, it feels like
• 52:14
  Speaker 7: there's more hope because it's a new team with a
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: new formula, right. I mean, you got this new quarterback
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: who's doing really well, a great fit for them. I
• 52:22
  Speaker 7: think the second year coach is hitting his stride. It's
• 52:26
  Speaker 7: not just ten years into the Pete Carroll regime, right,
• 52:29
  Speaker 7: it's a it really feels like they've got something here,
• 52:32
  Speaker 7: and you think the ceiling could go higher.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Final thing for you, Mike, I'm just the Pete Carroll
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: thing in Vegas and you can only do so much
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: depending on your personnel. And I think we all understand that.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: But watching that and I love the fact they went
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: for two yesterday. They get the ball and then you
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: know has the ball a bat it down at the
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: line of on the two point conversion. But they fall
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: thirty twenty nine to the Jaguars and what hell of
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: an entertaining game. But you know, Seahawk fans were watching
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: from afar. My son mentioned to me, is this hurting
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: Pete's legacy? I don't know, but it's just you've covered
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: the league for a long time. It's different ownership, it's
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: a different city. But what inherently is wrong with the Raiders.
• 53:13
  Speaker 7: I think that they didn't have a very good roster,
• 53:16
  Speaker 7: and then I'm not sure on the fit with the
• 53:20
  Speaker 7: coordinators and Pete. And this is just you know, Pete
• 53:26
  Speaker 7: didn't bring back the band, which is probably good too.
• 53:28
  Speaker 7: You don't want to just have all the same guys
• 53:30
  Speaker 7: you've always gotten jobs for, so to speak, but you know,
• 53:34
  Speaker 7: to have Chip Kelly there as a six million dollar coordinator.
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: Reportedly Patrick Graham was a holdover with New England Ties.
• 53:40
  Speaker 7: I think those guys are good coaches, but it feels
• 53:43
  Speaker 7: to me like, you know, they're not all It's not
• 53:47
  Speaker 7: a cohesive everything. Yet I think also when you're so
• 53:52
  Speaker 7: reliant on churning the culture of where you go, I
• 53:56
  Speaker 7: don't think that happens overnight. It may not happen at
• 53:58
  Speaker 7: all with a team like the Raid. And it took
• 54:01
  Speaker 7: Pete time in Seattle too, seven to nine twice. And
• 54:03
  Speaker 7: that's with a you know, it wasn't like Seattle had
• 54:05
  Speaker 7: a horrific culture or a bad owner or anything. It's
• 54:08
  Speaker 7: just hard to do and so he may not get
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: it there. He may not at the time there to
• 54:15
  Speaker 7: turn it and get all the players he wants. He's
• 54:17
  Speaker 7: going to be seventy five next year.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: It's a great point too, because it's yes, they went
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: to the playoffs that first year, but they were seven
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: and nine, and that was with a lot of the
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: old Guard and Marshawn coming into town midway through the season.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: But it wasn't until some of those young guys they
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: drafted started taking hold with Bobby and you know, cam Earle,
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: you know that group, and Sherman all those guys on defense,
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: and that's when it kind of started taking old and
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: it did. It didn't happen over night. Twenty eleven wasn't
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: a lot of fun for the Seahawks with Pete so
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: but yeah, at the age of seven, man, I'll tell
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: you right now, seventy five, I hope like hell I'm retired.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: But good good for him. I would urge people to
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: read the Pick six column. By the way, there's some
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: kicker love sort of in that column today. Yeah, some
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: kicker love. It makes a different Good kickers make a difference,
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: not just cam Little. By the way, there's some other
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: kicker love in there. Unfortunately it's for the forty nine ers.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: You can read that in Mike's calm.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: Thank you, my friend. We'll talk to you next week.
• 55:08
  Speaker 7: Thank you, appreciate it.
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 55:09
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• 56:10
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• 56:29
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• 56:32
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• 56:35
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• 56:38
  Speaker 3: town and Mike Benton was there along with some others
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: to greet him today.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: We talked to Laris this morning about you a little bit.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: If you had a chance to hang out with them,
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  Speaker 1: say hi last time over dinner or anything else.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I went to dinner with this guy.
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, yeah I went. I went and had
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: dinning with Maddie and Schwartzy and encountering. So it was
• 57:07
  Speaker 6: it was good catch up for sure. Talked to him
• 57:11
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• 57:15
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• 57:18
  Speaker 3: Here Berkowski doing the interview there with our own Mike Benton.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: You'll hear all of it on pregames tonight at sixty bister.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: He that was Maddy been the years and George James
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Schwartz coming in and interrupting the interview for a second.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: Very popular player in the locker room. Guys really liked him.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: I know fans were frustrated by burkeye and the fact
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: he couldn't get on the ice. Trust me, players that
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: aren't playing in any sport, it's not like they want
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: to be hurt. Nobody wants to be hurt. Nobody wants
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: to be hurt. When he was on the ice, wasn't
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: effective as he probably well certainly is his contract and
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: has everybody expected. I'd be interested to see what he
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: would have done this year Underlayne Lappert. I think I
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: think last year there's a lot of things that happened
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: last year were a product of what was going on
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: behind the bench, and it's just a better staff this season.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: Assistant coaches schnee Cloth and Taylor and head coach Lane Lambert,
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: they've just done a much better job along the way
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: seven o'clock dropping the pack six point thirty pre game.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: The captain Mark Benton will be there. He was there
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: this morning at the morning skate being Benton. He's all
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: fired up, ready to go, and Cracking are still unbeaten
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: in regulation at home this year. I think we're still
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: if you're new to the sport, you're still getting used
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: to the If you want to call it a loser point, fine,
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: but in hockey you get that point for getting overtime.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: Seattle's been to overtime six times this year. It happens
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: a lot, and they're squeaking points out. That's all that
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: matters right now. Loss is bad, points good, but they
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: need to get to tonight.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Good Chicago team.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: This isn't the bad teams that have been here the
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: last few years of Chicago, but Dard and others, it's
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: a good, good team.
• 59:00
  Speaker 9: Just seems like they have fresh blood, like they yeah, yes.
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Anyklaane's just done a You know, Santa was just
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: talking about with with with culture in the NFL, and
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: I think you know what we saw as it progressed
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: last year with Mike McDonald. Like the Seahawks at the
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: start of last season, we're not the Seahawks at the
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: end last season. Much better team by the end of
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: the year. Ye, we're seeing that with Lane. I mean
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: it's it's a longer season with eighty two games. Then
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: he's a good coach and he's establishing some things. He's
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: also no nonsense. There's also accountability that maybe hasn't existed
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: for a couple of years. But they need to get
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: a they need to get two points tonight, so we'll
• 59:33
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• 59:45
  Speaker 3: then we've got then we've got yes, ladies and gentlemen,
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• 59:55
  Speaker 9: Hey, I facted this week.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Just did get a fact yes.
• 59:59
  Speaker 9: Ahead of or at least time with Jackson.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, you've got a fact, Andrews and I. I got
• 1:00:06
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• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: really talking about it today. Is a Sounder's playoff game
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  Speaker 2: The the MLS.
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  Speaker 3: We had Christian rolled on on our pregame show for
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: TV on Saturday. Him and he and Alex were there
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: doing the stuff before the game. Let's go cracking the
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  Speaker 3: little deal they do up in the I love that
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  Speaker 3: at the arena and beautiful Christians Baby, beautiful, beautiful child
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  Speaker 3: wife they were there. But man, the MLS just screwed
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: up with the plate. The paywall on Apple TV is
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: just an absolute moronic move.
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  Speaker 2: It's just so bad.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: It just you're out of sight, out of mind and
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: this town. I mean, I like it because we have
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: a TV game for hockey tonight, so I mean people
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: watch that after the NFL if or whatever happened in
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: that game. I mean it just but if like, I
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: hate not being I'm just not going to pay to
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: watch the MLS. But I'd call myself a casual soccer fan,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: but I'm just not gonna pay.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. I think we all use
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 9: Andrews's account.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: Oh he has a share with me.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 10: He he is already locked in on our studio things.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: Our buddy, our buddy Keith Miller, money and football too bad.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: YouTube TV scribs won't be able to watch. So I'm
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: not a YouTube guy. Are you a YouTube person?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 9: Uh? No, I have alternate methods of watching.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Oh that's right, you're you're going to keep that to.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: Yourself, I said alternate. So so YouTube TV dropped. They're
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: in a big battle right now with ESPN. Right, so
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: there's no.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 9: Man, I that's sayings good. My brother's a YouTube guy.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 10: He does YouTube TV, and you can pretty much watch
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 10: anything and now.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: You except for ABC and ESPN and Disney, right.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 9: Exactly it used to be.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: I did chuckle.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: There was a note the other day that, you know,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: the statement because both sides will put out statements, you know,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: like who's who's to blame here?
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 9: Yep, yep, yeah, And I liked how fighting fire with
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 9: paper Yes.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Well, ESPN slash ABC slash Disney yep, all the same
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: thing put out the you know, we're really disappointed in
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: Google slash YouTube and basically call them greedy, you know,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: billionaire company blah blah blah. Well like they aren't like
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: pot Kettle, are you kidding, right, pot Kettle?
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 10: Hey, listen on those uh, you know, twenty dollars.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 9: Paychecks I used to get.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 10: Mickey Mouse was right on the signature line.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: Crazy.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: I just like, like, so you're complaining, Let's see two
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: three already pay for Apple Plus, but they charge ex
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: for mls.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, on the same way.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: And I'm now now I finally got out of the
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: Apple Plus world because I was well because I was
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: doing that because of the Heidi and I did it
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: for a year and all I did was watch like
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: three baseball games on There's some good shows. Somebody said
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: the Sounders games on FS one tonight. Is that true?
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 9: On television, I'm only focused on radio.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: Cool two five three, cool thing about the NHL. They
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: put it on TV, so I have to hut down.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: Were to watch it?
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: Crazy crazy you put it on television. If you put
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: something on wait for it, Jess television, they might watch
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: it on television.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: I watched on television.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 9: We want to listen to Jackson felt.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Yes we do game, Yes we do. Yes.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: Saying we use saying we all use our co workers
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  Speaker 3: That'd be the day after the game I'm picking, by
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  Speaker 3: On the sixth of November, Raiders are in Denver to
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  Speaker 3: take on the Broncos, a classic AFC West matchup. Problem
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: is one team's awful and the other team's really good.
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  Speaker 3: The Raiders go in there at two and six on
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: the season. The Broncos just keep winning. Now, they've been
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: winning a lot of close games, as we said there
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  Speaker 3: with our friend Mike Sandal, but this ain't gonna be close.
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  Speaker 3: This ain't gonna be close. Broncos are favored by nine
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  Speaker 3: and a half. I'm taking Denver minus nine and a half.
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  Speaker 3: I'm chasing on a Thursday, Jess, I'm chasing on a Thursday.
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  Speaker 3: I need to win. Why do I need to win?
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  Speaker 3: I know, well, based on last week. You know if
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  Speaker 3: I'm going back by the way Georgia Tech minus six
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  Speaker 3: versus NC State. NC State won that out right. I
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  Speaker 3: would take that game again though, win a heart beat.
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  Speaker 9: I liked it.
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  Speaker 2: I'd take that game and a heart beat.
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  Speaker 3: The fat fighting chazzs I Georgia Tech, Kames King, I
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  Speaker 3: would have taken that again.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't happen.
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  Speaker 3: You were a winner with the forty nine ers over
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  Speaker 3: the Giants minus two and a half.
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  Speaker 9: Good call picking against New York for once.
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  Speaker 3: I was a winner with Oklahoma and money line Matier
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  Speaker 3: plus three and a half against the Balls of Tennessee.
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  Speaker 3: They won that game outright, even though he couldn't throw
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  Speaker 3: the ball worth a damn. They ran the ball down
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  Speaker 3: the Tennessee. They ran the ball. They averaged six yards
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  Speaker 3: of carry if you take all the sack numbers. They
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  Speaker 3: aged six yards to carry at Oklahoma in that game
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  Speaker 3: against Tennessee. Wow, I'm running the football, So I take
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  Speaker 3: that one. Andrews minus Kansas City minus two and a
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  Speaker 3: half a buffalo. I hated when he made the pick.
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  Speaker 3: It was reflected in the numbers. Only fifty three percent
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  Speaker 3: agreed with him. Bad pick by Andrews. We can throw
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  Speaker 3: himder the bus because he's not here this week.
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  Speaker 9: He's probably listening on his way to the Hawaii.
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  Speaker 3: Bennett Now, thank me later. Miami minus ten and a
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  Speaker 3: half at SMU. I took MJ in the mid days.
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  Speaker 3: Miami Hurricanes at SEMU not only did not cover, they
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  Speaker 3: lost the game. Yeah yeah, and seventy five percent of
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: the people agreed. Why because MG in the midday has
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: been shoving Miami Hurricanes stuff down your throat. And I
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: bought it, but I would probably wouldn't take that. Would
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  Speaker 3: be the one I wouldn't take it again. The rest
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: of them the other one I would take it, all right.
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  Speaker 3: So again this week I'm going with the Broncos minus
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: nine and a half at home. They're gonna have to
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: win by ten or more against the Raiders. The Raiders
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: are awful. That's a bad football team.
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  Speaker 9: They're really bad. It makes me sad because I root
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 9: for Pete, you know, and I have nothing against Gino.
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  Speaker 3: And I know the only one they lost by one yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: I had a chance to win it at the end.
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  Speaker 3: That's because Jacksonville is not very good. Remember when I
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: told those guys in Jacksonville their quarterback's not very good.
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  Speaker 2: He's not very good. He's not very good. Your quarterbacks
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: not good.
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  Speaker 9: No, he's not very good.
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  Speaker 2: Her Laurence Sunshine there is not very good.
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  Speaker 9: He looks good.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, although Bronck Bowers on the bananas yesterday, woo. But Gino
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: still Gino. He is still Gino, and he's seeing a
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  Speaker 3: really good defense this week in Denver. It's gonna be
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: bad mile High.
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  Speaker 9: All right, the pick one more time.
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  Speaker 3: Broncos minus nine and a half at home against the
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  Speaker 10: I would just go with your brain on this one
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  Speaker 8: Yes, sorry, I'm enjoined some chowder here at Jimmy's.
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  Speaker 4: So I was just sounding in the air.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds good. How's the chowder? There's good?
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  Speaker 4: I'm good. Yeah, yeah, thank you appreciate it.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: What's going on? What's going on? Jimmy Day? The baseball
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: stadium's empty.
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  Speaker 8: Are you serious that there was Game eight of the
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 8: World Series tonight? Hey, Andyatma Moto was starting.
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  Speaker 2: Probably for a complete game too.
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  Speaker 8: No, it's Sounders Minnesota tonight. Man MLS playoffs. Okay, there
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 8: you go, Come on, dude, get with the time.
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  Speaker 3: I jolled, boob, what was it later game? Are you
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: gonna stick around seven forty five? That's awful?
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: That's bed time all.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna I'm actually going home tonight and I'm gonna
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 8: watch Well, I might, I might stream it on the
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 8: iHeart app, but I'm gonna I'm gonna watch a little
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 8: Husky basketball at eight o'clock tonight after the crack and
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 8: start at seven.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 4: You're welcome.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 8: Were you turning it off when that weird looking Canadian
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: comes on TV?
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: Good call, That's what I would do too. In fact,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: basically the numbers tell us the same right now, Just.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: So gnarly man, it's awful.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: What were you streussed on Saturday for the baseball game?
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: How was what was your emotional.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 8: I was very happy that Toronto lost, but I found
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 8: myself from a weird, weird state of mind and that
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 8: I actually was so shocked by what I saw, like
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 8: shocked by what I saw on Saturday night that I actually,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 8: for about three or four minutes until Twitter set me straight,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 8: meaning replies from Blue Jay fans, kind of felt bad
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 8: for them because I could never imagine going through that.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 8: I think that pain, the pain that they felt on
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 8: Saturday night way worse, way worse than what we felt
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 8: in Game seven on that Monday here at Jimmy's watching
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 8: that game to be eight outs away versus four strikes
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 8: away from a World Series title. And look, I realized
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 8: that Toronto's won it before. But you know, for all
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 8: intents and purposes, if you're in your mid thirties to
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 8: late thirties, you don't remember that at all. I was
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 8: thirty years ago, had no idea, right like you know
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 8: the Guardians. You know, Indian fans can at least talk
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 8: to grandpa and grandma about what the World Series was like.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 8: But that was eighty years ago that they won that
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 8: freaking thing, so they got no idea.
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  Speaker 4: Man. So I I actually felt bad for a little bit.
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  Speaker 8: And then I went online and I saw these trash
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 8: talking sons of bitch clowns from Toronto yap in their
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 8: freaking mouths and say, you know what, I'm done. Screw you, guys.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 8: I'm glad you lost. And I rubbed it in the
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 8: entire night. I can taste it. They can taste it,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 8: just like we tasted it.
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  Speaker 4: It was.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: It was an interesting night at the old Climate Plage
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: Arena while that game was going on because we're in
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: the uh, we're doing our stuff up in the space
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: needle lounger right by it. I guess we can look
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: at we can't see well, I mean, you know where
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: our said is this up there? And you're looking to
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: left and the place like after the first intermission, like
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: the first period, it was empty. First intermission, everybody goes
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: in there, and that was about the eighth inning I
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: think of the game, and the place was packed until
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: the game ended, which was the start of the third period.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: Like no one was like second period, and I found
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  Speaker 3: my I was interested because it's the first time I
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  Speaker 3: can remember in a long time people in this town
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: being invested in the World Series like they were invested
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: in the World Series and some of them, a lot
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: of them just hated Toronto because of our series with them, right,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: That's part of it. But they were invested in the
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: World Series and it was wild, like looking across watching
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: the reaction and I saw kind of like this crazy
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: shuffling and all this kind of stuff, and I'm like,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: what the hell just happened? And my butt, our photographer
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: Chance shows me the toenail on home plate that saved
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: the season for the Dodgers. I'm like, you know, if
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: nothing else as a hell of a series for baseball,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: that maybe needs a shot in the arm, because well.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 8: Here's what I said after Game seven, man, And I
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 8: feel like it even more now than ever. And I
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 8: realized that we go through gaps when the Mariners are
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 8: good and then they're terrible for twenty years. They're good,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 8: they're terrible for twenty years, So you almost have to
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 8: kind of like restart the engine a little bit in
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 8: this city. I feel like baseball has arrived again in
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 8: Seattle after what we went through. Right with the idea
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 8: that people were that pissed off at Toronto, they were
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 8: that angry at Houston, they were that into the season,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 8: they were that into the World Series games that don't
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 8: even impact them, I think baseball is kind of back
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 8: in the in the city of Seattle and I'm really
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 8: curious to see what it means, you know, tangibly for
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 8: ticket sales and TV ratings and things like that. So
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 8: you know, nobody's ever you know, expecting Baseball to outdraw
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 8: the NFL. What's the ten thousand pound animal. I get that,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 8: but I mean, yeah, I mean.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 8: I was totally invested in the World Series, and I
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 8: told myself I wasn't going to watch a minute of it,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 8: and I lied, I watched a lot of it.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: Well, a ton of it.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: I think we're invested, and I think they've bought themselves
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: a lot of goodwill. Has that front office as long
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: as the resigned.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: Nailor, Well, they gotta do more than that.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: No, No, I agree, I agree. But if if yours
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: is there, it starts there.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: It has to like that is just a absolute must,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: one hundred percent. And I was. I was talking to
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: our guy J. T. Brown on the broadcast today and
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: he said, he says, what if what if?
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: Fat?
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: Because you know, we're talking about like.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: What it would cost, right, And I said, well, it's
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: probably five for twenty one hundred million dollar contract and
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: the guy's earned it his first year free agencies. A
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: fool not to wait to see what the market is.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: He says, what happens if someone like the or the
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: Mets comes in and offers him five for one hundred
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: and fifty, or like just some stupid contract and the
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: Mariners just say we can't do it, then what are
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: we feeling here in Seattle?
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: If that happens.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 8: I don't think there's anything reasonable that he could be
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 8: offered that the Mariners cannot match or should not match.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: Honestly, good quick.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 8: Million, thirty million dollars a year for Josh Naylor is
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 8: to me, it's it's not ridiculous. I mean, it's a
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 8: little bit over market, maybe maybe a little bit overpriced.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 8: But for what he did in Seattle and the way
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 8: he hits the ball at that park and what he
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 8: meant to that clubhouse, I think he means I think
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 8: he's worth more to Seattle than he is any other.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: Team of the game.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: I agree with you. I agree with you, And.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: They're ever going to overpay for somebody. It's that guy.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, what more do you need to see? And
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: guess what thirty million dollars in twenty.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 8: Twenty six may feel like a lot of money, it's
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 8: not gonna be a lot of money in twenty twenty eight,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 8: for twenty twenty nine for kidney.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: Not for an organization that in twenty twenty four, not
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: this year, but in twenty twenty four without a playoff
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: run netted the fourth highest amount of money in Major
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: League base righted.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: Look, it's time. This okay, it's time.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 8: It's time for them to put everything else above uh
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 8: and that means winning the World Series is the only
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 8: thing that should matter. I told Dick and Jackson the
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 8: other day. I want John Stanton to wake up and
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 8: when he eats his rice crispies want to I want
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 8: him to see the shape of a World Series logo
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 8: in his milk when he goes to bed at night,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 8: when he looks outside and sees the clouds forming, I
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 8: want him to see the World Championship trophy and the clouds.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 8: I want this guy to walk around like Chris Farley
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 8: and Essental just thinking where else saires wireld saies like
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 8: a freaking robot.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: And if he's not doing that, then he's not the
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: right guy to lead this organization. Period.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 8: End of story. I don't want to hear it anymore.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 8: I'm done lose money if you have to sell the farm.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 8: I don't give a crap. Only thing that matters is
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 8: the window they're in right now. God, I'm already pissed off.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 8: It's not even three o'clock.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: Already I was envisioned him being a grape nuts guy.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 9: Literally almost just said that outloud.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure he's rice Chrispies guy. Maybe he might be.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: He might be a honey nut Cheerios guy for all
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: we know.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: And you know what if he doesn't sign Josh Nailer,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: you know he buys a generic brand as well.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 8: Okay, let's see a little more and four with Hugh,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 8: a little fun with audio. Jackson Bevans is gonna come out.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 8: We're gonna ask Jackson Bevans. He is the leader of
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 8: the Geno Whites. You know who the Geno Whites are.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 8: That's that group of people that thought getting rid of
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 8: Ginosmith for Sam Darnold was a big, big, big, big,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 8: big mistake. So we'll talk to him at five o'clock.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 8: We'll see he's willing to wave the white flag. Jason
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 8: Hamilton's gonna join at six before Husky basketball starts tonight.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: And then your buddy evert fits Hugh from the booth.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: He owes to me a steak dinner.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 8: By the way, because the Tigers lost to the Mariners,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 8: so join us right before pregame show starts at six.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: There. He's not in a good mood after that game yesterday.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: I don't blame him, blame him. We're gonna poke the
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: bear big.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: Time, all right. And then and you're already pissed off.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: I did my job.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: No, I'm good. Now, I'm good.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: No, I've done my job. Set for the mild mannered
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: and marginally objection the bully and farness.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: This is paddle day saying so long everyone
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: M