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The news, opinions, commentary and interviews. You need to start your day,
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and you're listening to the West Carrol Morning Show Thursday morning, second day
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of November. I'm West thanks for joining me. Am I right? We're
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three weeks to Thanksgiving? Am I doing the math right on this? Three
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weeks? Is that right? Twenty third? I think that's it. Twenty
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third Thanksgiving this year, we're three weeks away. That's how quickly this is
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happening. And I was talking about some of this yesterday, but I don't
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think I fully appreciated that it was really just three weeks, three weeks today
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until Thanksgiving. And then, of course you know what we're looking at as
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far as being now just like a year away from election day, the twenty
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twenty four elections. So there is a lot on the radar for in the
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next twelve months, but the next three weeks, of course, just involves
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getting us to Thanksgiving. I mean three weeks. So here we go.
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A couple of things I want to talk about today. I'm gonna start first
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and foremost, following up on something I talked about the other day, because
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I have now watched the South Park pander Verse special and that's panda or not
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Panda. That's different. It's different. Panda and Panda are different. And
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I'll just preface this again in case you missed that show. The South Park
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creators had a special and I know where I saw it. I'm not really
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sure all the places it's available. I watched it on the Paramount plus app.
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Okay, I get that one free through my phone, right phone.
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My phone carrier gives it to me for free. And there's some good stuff
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on there. And I'm not typically a south Park viewer. Okay, south
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Park is and I'm just pardon me if you just heard this the other day,
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but it's not something that I regularly watch. I do typically find it
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funny when I watch it. I often find the satire very good, very
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on point. And I don't really know why I don't watch it more often,
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except for the fact that I do find most of the character voices to
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be extremely grating and obnoxious. I just do. I feel like it's part
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of the atmosphere, if you will, It's part of the ambiance of the
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show, the voices. I get it. It's just to turn off for
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me. And I worked for someone who tried to do the voices a lot
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a long long time ago and when the show premiered, and that also had
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an effect on me not being able because it was one of those things.
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It was someone who I thought, if this person likes this show, how
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can I like this show? So it made me not want to watch it.
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But that's often true with a few things, like Napoleon Dynamite was something
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that I just didn't want to watch because everybody was quoting it. Actually,
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when Adam Sandler first left SNL to do movies, I just thought, this
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is people are getting all my nerves with it. And of course I love
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Adam Sandler. Now, I loved him as soon as I started. Well,
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I loved him on SNL, but I loved his movies right out of
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the gate. But Napoleon Dynamite, when I finally watched it, I really
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liked it. And I was glad that I watched Borat at an event advance
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screening, because if I had watched Borat or tried to watch Borat weeks after
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it had come out and became popular, I don't know that I would have.
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I have gotten on my nerves just a lot of the High five and
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that sort of stuff. I just that's part of it with South Park for
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me, So the new special it is a take on Disney, and it's
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more than that, and that's why I wanted to address this again. And
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there's actually a little bit more of a development to go along with this,
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but largely the pander verse is a reference to Disney's inability to come up with
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any original ideas for their movies. Now, obviously this is satire. Disney
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has made some original things, but for the most part, there's a lot
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of pandering that's been going on for quite some time. And I like to
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reference Star Wars specifically because it relates to eventually what I'm going to talk about
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in a second, about where this story is the latest on this story.
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But as I've pointed out, there were fans of the original Star Wars movies
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that were women. They liked it just the way it was, and at
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some point, once Disney got involved in all of this, when the sequel
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movies came out, there was definitely a feel of, well, we have
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to try to it so that more women will like it, and sometimes it's
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just about making a good product. I think the NFL is in a stage
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of this right now where they are desperately trying to get a different audience.
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I'm not really sure what the thinking is. Some women enjoy football, right,
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some women don't care for it. Some women like college football. Some
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women don't care for it. There are men, believe it or not,
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that don't like football. They exist. Those men are out there. Okay,
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So right now, the NFL seems to be in this phase of how
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do we get younger women to like this? They don't seem to be sticking
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with what's normally. Normally in marketing, you have what's called a target demographic,
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and if you satisfy the target demographic and then you have other people who
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don't feel alienated but they actually also appreciate the product, then you're doing great.
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I mean, typically, you know, you might have a product and
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you say, our audience is probably, you know, an eighteen to thirty
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four year old male, like, that's kind of our maybe forty nine that's
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our sweet spot. But you're gonna also get some women in that age group
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that are gonna watch it because maybe they just like the game I'm giving referencing
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it back to football. But in some cases you're gonna get women that maybe
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just like it. You're gonna get some women that like it because their husband
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likes it. You're gonna get some women who grew up around it because of
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maybe their dad or their mom who liked it. You never know. But
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basically, you don't have to change the product or your target demographic. You
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just have to continue making a good product. And that's something that I think
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the NFL is failing at right now. That's something that certainly I think the
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Hollywood in general is failing at it. I think they're close to getting this
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SAG strike worked out. They've been trying to get the actors back to work,
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and at last check they had not, but they were apparently close one
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hundred and ten hundred and eleven days whatever it is. But you know,
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I guess the break maybe gave them some time to maybe take up some good
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ideas. I don't know. So NFL's doing it with the Taylor Swift thing,
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right the NFL has basically said, we're, you know, we're going
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to do this fake relationship with Taylor Swift and at Travis Kelcey, and you
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know it's going to be a little stunt. We're going to do that.
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They did it once before with Jessica Simpson and Tony Romo. It was all
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a big little show. That's what it was, a big little show,
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just a little stunt. Let's see what we can do. Should have been
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an indicator that it was fake when every time Tony Romo and Jessica Simpson went
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on a date there was a paparazzi that had been called and told to be
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there, and that often Tony Romo would show up with his tight end Jason
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Witten is BFF, so you know, it was like a setup for a
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middle school date, is what it seemed like. And then the whole just
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having Taylor Swift show up at the Chiefs games and set up in the booth
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with Travis Kelsey's mom and then leave separately, like supposedly they're on a date
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and he's playing and she's up in the booth having a beverage and hanging out
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with the guy's mom, who does not always look excited to have her around.
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But the whole thing is a charade, and it's an attempt to try
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it, and they did a thing on some of the show. Well,
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we're going to let the Swifties know these are the rules of football, so
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it's not just pandering it's also condescending because it's we're gonna make sure you understand
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the rules, and then they try to equate it to Taylor Swift's songs and
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all that sorts of thing. And we've gone through that with Star Wars.
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You know, we have to make sure that women are going to like this.
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I have talked about a personal connection that I had with something that Disney
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did in the Marvel franchise. But there was a scene in the movie Endgame
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where towards the end of the movie, they need to there's something that they're
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trying to accomplish. One of the women in the cast is trying to accomplish
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it, and they say like, oh, and Spider Man, I think,
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says how are you going to get through all those people? And then
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one of the women says She's got help, And then there's all the women
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superheroes from the movie all gather together and fight together. And it's supposed to
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be this cool moment that shows that these powerful women are all there in this
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movie. Now, when I watched it, I had a little bit of
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a conflicting thing. And this is my personal story with this, and I've
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shared this before, but I think it's important to address it because I think
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it's twofold and I think it's important off so to realize sometimes there is a
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layer to it. But it was pandering. I mean that's the first reaction
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is ill, come on, this is lame. I mean, it's re
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lame and it's just blatantly pandering. Now my personal experience with it is prior
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to this movie coming out, I had interviewed Evangeline Lily, who was in
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the movie. She's one of the women in that scene she play in this.
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You know, she was in the ant Man movies. Ant Man in
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the Wasp actually came out before Captain Marvel, so she was the first female
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character in this Marvel universe to have her name her character's name in the title
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of the movie, which she was excited about that, you know, as
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an actress, she was excited to have that sort of nod in her direction
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for those movies. But she mentioned to me while we were talking, and
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I don't remember if it was specifically part of the interview or if because we
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talked and I caught up with her again at Dragon Con that year, and
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I don't remember exactly the context. I believe it was part of the interview,
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and I believe it's on the the Dragon Con pregame show interviews if you
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want to listen to my conversation with her that podcast. But she referenced a
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scene that took place in the movie. She said, you know, when
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we've filmed this Endgame movie and there's a scene in the movie that was a
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really cool moment for the actresses involved. It meant something specifically for each one
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of us, and it was a nice moment for us collectively to all be
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on screen together. And I didn't know exactly then what she was talking about.
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I did not ask her to elaborate because I knew she was following.
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It must have been in the interview, because I would have probably asked her,
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you know, since there was if there was no recording device nearby,
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I probably would have asked her to elaborate. And then when I saw it,
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I knew that's what she meant. So I understand why there was value
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in that to that group collect but it was still pandering. I mean to
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an audience that's watching this, You're seeing all of these women and you're going,
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all right, I get what we're doing there, and it was fine.
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It didn't take away from the movie. It was one of the It
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was one of the moments though that reminded me that I was watching a movie,
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and often I like to I like to enjoy a movie and just sort
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of forget what's going on in the real world. And that pulled me out
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of it for a moment, but it gave me a nice thought when I
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remembered my conversation with Freckles. That's what we call each other, so because
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that was her nickname. And Lost, by the way, and I have
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Freckles, so that's her nickname for each other. So let's get back to
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Star Wars, a franchise that has certainly done its share of pandering the idea
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that the leads in the movies now have to be women or you know,
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and and look, I don't have a problem. I like the character Ray
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in the first movie. I like and I still like the character Ray.
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I didn't have a problem with Ray as a character. I thought that the
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writing was sloppy as the movies continued on. I thought JJ Abrams set up
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a lot of great things for episode seven and an eighty nine just kind of
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went because it wasn't it wasn't well thought out. They didn't plan this all
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out. I don't want to get too deep dive into the nerdy talk about
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Star Wars, but this pander Verse South Park episode really goes after Kathleen Kennedy
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and accuses the Disney Company of just lazy writing. And they called it a
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stone that they said, when you go to this pander stone, if you
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go to it too many times, it disrupts and it creates the multiverse.
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And then that's when the south Park characters got turned into as they put it,
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diverse women. So instead of seeing the normal south Park characters, you
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know, they look like there's maybe two black women, a Hispanic woman,
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and an Asian woman, and all of the characters the Colonel Sam from KFC
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was a black woman. I guess trans woman or something. I don't know.
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I was layered with those sorts of jokes. Now what this caused,
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and there's more to the episode by the way, they take some shots at
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the fact that because of AI or because of YouTube, people don't really know
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how to do anything anymore. That's what they say. People aren't learning how
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to do basic things like do minor repairs around your home and things like that.
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And they say that because of that it's created a situation where all the
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handymen have gotten so in demand that they're all insanely wealthy, and then it
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basically turns them into Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos and others, and they're racing
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to space because they have so much money because everybody needs them in there in
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such demand that one's you know, that's another that part of the satire was
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less interesting to me than the Star Wars Kathleen Kennedy stuff. Gina Carano,
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who was in the Mandalorian series, great character. She's a great actress.
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She was in Deadpool, she was in Mandalorian, and her character was ultimately
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written off the Mandalorian because she would not go along with some of the woke
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things that she felt Disney was pushing. And she also didn't conform to some
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of the rules about masks. She didn't conform to some of the rules about
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vaccines. Coincidentally, Evangeline Lily is another person who took some flak for this,
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but she was not targeted the way that Gina Carano was by a lot
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of the folks on Twitter or Instagram. It was still called Twitter back then,
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by the way, So she made some comments that were not liked by
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fans of Disney, and they went after her. They went after her and
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got her fired. So since then she's been doing some other smaller projects things,
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and she has been outspoken. She supported the South Park episode this Panda
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Verse and basically referenced and I read it the other day. It was kind
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of a long thing, but she basically referenced the nastiness of Kathleen Kennedy.
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Some other sites went off on her comments and basically said that she had lost
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her mind. Specifically, there's an around the Galaxy Star Wars podcast is the
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name of it, and they screenshot at her comments about South Park. Corno
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has voiced back. She says, do referencing the podcast, do you always
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call a woman crazy just because she has more firsthand experience than you for some
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added context, not just for you, but for people reading. One of
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the things your overlord's referencing Kennedy and others asked me to do was to unfollow
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certain accounts because they said bad things about Kathleen Kennedy. That was a huge
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red flag for me. If I were the head of one of the most
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powerful entertainment companies in the world, I would know that haters come with the
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territory. So she just sort of laid it all out there again and continues
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to and it's really this is long. I'm not going to read this entire
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comment, but she's really quite clever with her comments. She does a really
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good job of working in references to other things. It's it's really nice lots
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of boop references, which ties back to what got her in trouble, I
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guess in the first place, of course, which is that they wanted her
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to declare her pronouns and she said, I don't have to declare my pronouns.
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They're just you know, the normal ones, and they kept telling her
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she needed to put something, so she put beat bop boop for her pronouns,
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and that's ultimately I think what got her fired. But there you go.
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When Disney is asking you, according to her, to unfollow accounts because
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they are, you know, saying negative things about Kathleen Kennedy, and I
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think she's right. If that's true, you should know that there's going to
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be criticism. There's always going to be criticism. That's going to be something
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that's going to happen. It's going to present itself and you're going to have
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to, you know, act like a grown up, except that sometimes that's
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the way things are going to be and you just sort of, you know,
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work your way through it. That's just the reality that's there. You
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got to be able to handle that. Again. The South Park inside the
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pander Verse, I think is the title of it is on Paramount Plus possibly
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some other places. I don't know. That's where I saw it, and
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I can just remind you it's got very strong language. This is not one
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that was written for TV. I guess if it's on TV, it's got
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to be on late at night. I'm assuming. I don't think they can
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just run. Maybe they can because it's on cable. I don't know.
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Do people even still watch Comedy Central or wherever it airs on a regular basis,
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I don't know, But that's where you can watch it if you want
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to check it out. It's a very amusing bit of satirical look at Disney
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break, ern I mentioned, uh, we got three weeks to go before
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Thanksgiving, but before we fully close the door on Halloween, right, I
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think it's worth just mentioning. A survey says that eighty one percent of kids
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will have eaten their entire Halloween haul within the first week, and twenty five
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percent are done already. They did it all by yesterday one day. So
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yeah, you might want to, you know, think about maybe, I
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don't know, put the candy on a high shelf. Maybe, you know,
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just only give them access to small amounts of it at a time,
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or make them ask you for it. I don't know what your strategy is,
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but that doesn't seem like a good idea to give them full access.
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If eighty one percent are eating it all in the first week, that is
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not good. Maybe if your dentist, perhaps all right, So let's transition
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I would think it would be slow going for a couple more weeks, but
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I don't know. But if you got questions about cooking your turkey and it
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It doesn't list the phone numbers here, but I know that let's see if
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I can pull it up on their website. Oh, here we go one
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you want to call and get your turkey cooking advice. All right, So
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apparently there are people that are embracing the idea of a Thanksgiving tree. Some
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people, I guess, did Halloween trees. I don't really know how you
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fully distinguish them from the Christmas tree. If it's the same tree and it's
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green or white. I guess if it's white you can work with it.
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If it's green, it's a little tricky. But some had the Halloween decorations
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on the tree, and I guess now they're working their way over to the
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Thanksgiving tree. I mean, if we can keep a tree up year round,
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it would make things easier. You know, you'd need more care.
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You'd have to take care care, especially if it's a. You know,
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if it's not a When I say white and green, I'm assuming that they're
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not getting live trees. I don't know where you get a live tree to
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put in your house unless you cut it down yourself. But anyway, a
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Thanksgiving tree typically decked out in fall colored leave, pumpkin and turkey ornaments,
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handwritten tag saying what you're thankful for. That's a nice thought, isn't it.
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And then eventually you transition over to your Christmas decorations whenever, So that's
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what you would do. I don't know how the Thanksgiving tree transitions from Halloween
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