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Best of Chuck & Buck 11-19 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Are you sitting there thinking baseball season is over and
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  Speaker 1: sitting around and you're duff. You're missing out on some
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  Speaker 1: content right now. At Sports Radio ninety three point three
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  Speaker 1: KJR dot com you can find a brand new article
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  Speaker 1: about the Mariners off season, or crystal Ball forecast or
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  Speaker 1: my personal crystal Ball forecast for the Mariners off season.
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  Speaker 1: You can check that out in written form if you
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  Speaker 1: need audio form. Andrews Hurst and I have recorded this
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  Speaker 1: week's latest episode of Stove where we not only go
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  Speaker 1: over the crystal Ball forecast, but of course it starts
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  Speaker 1: with Josh Naylor, who yesterday made it official, he with
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  Speaker 1: his smiley face press conference with the Mariners. He actually
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  Speaker 1: made it official on Monday, signing a brand new deal
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  Speaker 1: five years ninety two point five million dollars to remain
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  Speaker 1: the Mariners basement for the next half decade. And yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: the very thoughtful, the very eloquent Josh Naylor conducted a
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  Speaker 1: press conference alongside Jerry to Poto, Justin Hollander and others.
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  Speaker 1: And so we talked more about nails here today on
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  Speaker 1: Chuck and Buck in the Morning's Ashley Bucky Chuck with you.
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  Speaker 1: Good to see him all. Smiley and happy up there.
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  Speaker 1: I think I would. I two would be very happy
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  Speaker 1: if I knew ninety two and a half million dollars
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  Speaker 1: for coming to me to play the game that I love.
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  Speaker 1: But nevertheless, it was nice to see just how excited
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  Speaker 1: he was to be a Mariner yesterday. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you.
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  Speaker 2: I think if somebody just says, hey, hell, one hundred
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  Speaker 2: mill or so sound give or take, you know, over
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  Speaker 2: the next few years. Okay, yeah, I think I'd be
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  Speaker 2: pretty smiley too, But I do genuinely. I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: hear what he says. And he loved it here. He
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  Speaker 2: was accepted here. The thoughts and I was never traded
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  Speaker 2: at the big league level, but I know guys that were,
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  Speaker 2: and even guys that are trading at the minor league level.
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  Speaker 2: There's a thing in your head that goes on of well,
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  Speaker 2: do they just.
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  Speaker 1: Not want me?
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  Speaker 2: Or they do they really want me? Obviously, in this situation,
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  Speaker 2: he knew that the Mariners were. He was sought after
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  Speaker 2: by other teams. He was he was a trade deadline
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  Speaker 2: kind of a hot pickup that a lot of teams
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  Speaker 2: were gonna want, and so you go move to another team.
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  Speaker 2: But then you got to all of a sudden, like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: how is this going to go? How am I going
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  Speaker 2: to be accepted? As you know, what's this team going
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  Speaker 2: to be like? And for a guy like him that
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  Speaker 2: I think prides himself on being a good teammate and
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  Speaker 2: wanting to pour everything he has into his team and
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  Speaker 2: in return get something back from them as far as
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  Speaker 2: energy and and the will to want to win, I
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  Speaker 2: think that it was it was ass I think that
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  Speaker 2: they just matched one hundred percent on it, and it
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  Speaker 2: turned out on the field that he was a huge
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  Speaker 2: acquisition as well.
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  Speaker 1: Well. I mean, he just he just has such a
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  Speaker 1: unique personality. I don't think there's anybody like him, no
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  Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball or any professional sport that I've
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  Speaker 1: come across. He's so very thoughtful, and when he speaks
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  Speaker 1: you find out just the lengths that he goes to
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  Speaker 1: to think about baseball. But then he never offers you
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  Speaker 1: anything about his personal life. I mean even to the
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  Speaker 1: point where he ordered Mariner's pr not to even mention
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  Speaker 1: that he had a baby, even though everything went well,
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  Speaker 1: and really we just wanted to make sure everything went
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  Speaker 1: well with it. I mean, sure we wanted you back
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  Speaker 1: on the field because it was crucial, but we really
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  Speaker 1: just wanted to find out that everything went well, and
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  Speaker 1: he didn't even want them to reveal that didn't even
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  Speaker 1: want them to reveal the gender of his child during
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  Speaker 1: the course of that week until on his terms he
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  Speaker 1: could announce it, which ended up being in the form
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  Speaker 1: of a fancy blue belt to tell us that it
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  Speaker 1: was a little baby boy. So he keeps things close
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  Speaker 1: to the best. So when you have somebody that thoughtful,
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  Speaker 1: that interesting, and that careful about what he does provide,
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  Speaker 1: you really don't know what he's thinking. Is he going
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  Speaker 1: to stay, did he like it here? Are we going
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  Speaker 1: to find out that the whole time he just couldn't
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  Speaker 1: wait to get back to Canada, even if it had
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  Speaker 1: to be DH Or were we going to find out that
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  Speaker 1: his lifelong dream was to be a Pittsburgh Pirate. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: do you have any We didn't have any until he signed.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know what to expect from Josh Naylor, but
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  Speaker 1: apparently in his head it was never really a doubt.
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  Speaker 1: He was asked in the press conference yesterday, why so
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  Speaker 1: quick in the process to sign a deal? Why didn't
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  Speaker 1: you play it out?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I really enjoyed every single moment I was here,
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  Speaker 3: from the players to the head office of the coaching staff,
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  Speaker 3: to the rest of the you know, the staff, the
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  Speaker 3: kitchen crew, the clubbus managers, and it was just everything
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  Speaker 3: was so awesome. I had such a blast being a
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  Speaker 3: part of everything. I'm getting to know players on and
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  Speaker 3: off the field and just competing with them. Obviously we
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  Speaker 3: fell a little bit short, but you know, I can't
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  Speaker 3: wait to run it back with them because they deserve this,
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  Speaker 3: the city deserves it, each of each player's family deserves it.
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  Speaker 3: I can't express how much fun I had on this team.
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  Speaker 3: It was unbelievable, like tears of joy kind of unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I just I love.
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  Speaker 3: Competing and competing with this organization was probably one of
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  Speaker 3: my favorites I've ever had in my career. So I'm very,
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  Speaker 3: very blessed. I played with some really, really great teams.
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  Speaker 3: I was fortunate enough to play with my brother. That
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  Speaker 3: was probably the best thing ever, you know, being able
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  Speaker 3: to play with your brother.
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  Speaker 1: And then coming here. It was kind of a whirlwind
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  Speaker 1: of year.
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  Speaker 3: I started in Arizona and then ended up getting traded,
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  Speaker 3: and getting traded is not easy at times, and they've
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  Speaker 3: got to move stuff around, you got to worry about
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  Speaker 3: family and stuff. But they just accepted me right away.
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  Speaker 3: They helped me in every single way they could. Teammates
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  Speaker 3: embraced me right away, Fans embraced me right away. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, at the end of the day, they deserve
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  Speaker 3: that that world series that we're shooting for here. I
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  Speaker 3: can't thank the fans enough for supporting me as much
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  Speaker 3: as they do. I love them and I hope they
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  Speaker 3: love me, and I just go out there and compete
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  Speaker 3: for them every single night, and you know, God willing
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  Speaker 3: and bring a world series of this to the city.
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  Speaker 1: That's what you felt watching him, for sure. You were
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  Speaker 1: like you wanted to you thought that's what you were watching.
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  Speaker 1: You wanted to believe that's what you were watching. But
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  Speaker 1: until I mean, throwing out those weird Instagram things like hey,
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  Speaker 1: cal sure was fun, best of luck, Bud, Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: been real. Yeah, stuff like that through y'all throws y'af
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. And so until he signs that dotted
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  Speaker 1: line and announces in a press conference what he just announced,
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  Speaker 1: you don't know for sure, but it was it was
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  Speaker 1: great to hear.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the dude just seems like he's real.
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  Speaker 2: Like he's real and the part of him being an
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  Speaker 2: ultimate competitor that all he really wants to do is win. Now,
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  Speaker 2: everybody that plays any sports they want to win. They
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  Speaker 2: want to win a lot, but all they want to
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  Speaker 2: do is win. Like, if it does, if it means
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  Speaker 2: I need to go steal third, even though I'm the
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  Speaker 2: slowest guy in the league, I'm gonna go do that. Like,
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  Speaker 2: there's just some people that just don't have all of
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  Speaker 2: what it takes between the years and how and then
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  Speaker 2: understanding what it is they bring to the table as
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  Speaker 2: an athlete to be able to actually put everything everything
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  Speaker 2: into helping your team win. And Yeah, I think he's
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  Speaker 2: one of those guys that, you know, baseball is different
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  Speaker 2: because you don't have to look like a certain thing
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  Speaker 2: to be a good baseball player. You can have different
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  Speaker 2: body types and yet you just have to understand that
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  Speaker 2: have a good baseball like you.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that his is off the charts. He
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  Speaker 1: talked about the fan embrace, and so he actually expanded
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  Speaker 1: on that later on in the press conference.
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  Speaker 3: They are they're so cool and super supportive of every
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  Speaker 3: in every single way. They they're like I said, they
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  Speaker 3: ride or die fans. They want to see you win,
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  Speaker 3: and I feel like when we win, we win together,
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  Speaker 3: as like the x amount of thousand that are in
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  Speaker 3: the crowd, and then also the twenty six on the
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  Speaker 3: field of the which staff the head off, like we
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  Speaker 3: all went together, which is so cool, and I feel
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  Speaker 3: like it's very rare to have that around the league.
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  Speaker 3: But this fan base is absolutely incredible. I have nothing
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  Speaker 3: but great things to say about them, nothing but love
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  Speaker 3: for them. I cherish my shoes and I think a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people know that. But towards the end of
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  Speaker 3: the year, I started to give like my shoes away
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  Speaker 3: to like these little kids, just to like see them
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  Speaker 3: smile and make them happy. And you know, I hope
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  Speaker 3: they appreciated it, and I think they did, and I
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  Speaker 3: just I want to continue to make them smile, whether
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  Speaker 3: it's with my gameplay, whether it's the little gestures of
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  Speaker 3: signing autographs, giving away some some apparel.
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  Speaker 1: But they are they are.
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  Speaker 3: Heartbeat, really and I love playing for them, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: playing with them on the field, they're they're really with
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  Speaker 3: us on the field. The energy they bring it helps us,
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  Speaker 3: you know, create runs, create kind of chasts on the
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  Speaker 3: base path when you strike a guy out. This whole
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  Speaker 3: place is rock and it is just unbelievable.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he did show up at a time where
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  Speaker 1: everything was already switched on, so he didn't really experience
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  Speaker 1: anything that wasn't the playoff race or a playoff game.
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  Speaker 1: But that said, I'll say this, I've been around a lot,
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  Speaker 1: and I've seen a lot of different fan bases, and
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  Speaker 1: some of those that have been considered the best been
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  Speaker 1: around Saint Louis Cardinal fans, who are known for not
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  Speaker 1: just cheering for their own guys, but they'll give standing
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  Speaker 1: ovations to other guys who've made a great catch or
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  Speaker 1: come or who are excellent at what they do. I've
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  Speaker 1: been around Cub fans a lot, and they're just gonna
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  Speaker 1: have a good time no matter what win or lose.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of the cub fan mentality here in Seattle.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to be here, man the Felix Hernandezes
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  Speaker 1: of the world, when you choose to be here, when
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  Speaker 1: you're when you react the way Josh Naylor just reacted
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  Speaker 1: in that press conference, He's going to be a fan
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  Speaker 1: favorite for the rest of his career, There's no question about.
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  Speaker 1: Because Seattle fans love the guy that like he That
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  Speaker 1: was him saying. Part of it was, I'm choosing the
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  Speaker 1: Mariner fan base. Boy, he's just been he's a fan
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  Speaker 1: favorite for the next five years. I tried to. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Col's always going to be cal and but Josh Naylor
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  Speaker 1: just I mean, if you wanted to pour honey into
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  Speaker 1: the ears of your fan base, say that here in
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  Speaker 1: Seattle and you've won them over.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well he knows what he's doing, and yet I do.
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  Speaker 2: I think the dude's genuine I think he genuinely means
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  Speaker 2: what he says, and he says what he feels. And
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  Speaker 2: you're right, he got to kind of come here right
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  Speaker 2: when it was already switched on. But I think this
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  Speaker 2: signing and this the group of guys that we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: be able to watch for the next few years. I
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  Speaker 2: think they believe this is just the beginning of a
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  Speaker 2: long haul of being in that mode for a while.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Jess Dolander did say yesterday that both
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  Speaker 1: Polanco and Gino sworez they were trying to re sign.
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  Speaker 1: That's the first time I think that we've heard it
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  Speaker 1: said that plainly. So maybe all three of them come back,
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  Speaker 1: which is something that I have not been forecasting. We
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  Speaker 1: shall see, all right. We'll talk more about it later
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  Speaker 1: on in the program coming up next though, brand new
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  Speaker 1: college football player rankings are out and there's some interesting
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  Speaker 1: things right around eight through ten to discuss on KJR
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  Speaker 1: Hans it I'll cart your up gap control of it
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  Speaker 1: up toot like he even shot tep stools.
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  Speaker 5: Riker Evans a left point shot redirected in in front.
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  Speaker 1: Had the Seattle Cracket retie the game twelve thirty four
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  Speaker 1: to play at the second two's a side. That is
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't a good night for the Krack and they lost
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  Speaker 1: in Detroit to the Red Wings four to two, despite
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  Speaker 1: the triumphant return, or at least we thought at the
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  Speaker 1: time of Joey decord in goal didn't work out for
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  Speaker 1: Joey or the Kraken. Jordan Eberley did score a goal.
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  Speaker 1: He now leads the team with eight this year. They'll
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  Speaker 1: play again tomorrow in Chicago against the Blackhawks at five o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: More on that a little bit later on in the show,
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  Speaker 1: but we now get to your frost brewed cors Light
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  Speaker 1: choose chill headlines on a hump day, and we will
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  Speaker 1: start with Major League Baseball. It was a trade last night,
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Ward to Baltimore for Grayson Rodriguez. Of course, the
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  Speaker 1: big news yesterday and major League Baseball was Josh Naylor's
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  Speaker 1: press conference, as with a giant smile on his face
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  Speaker 1: like the cheshire cat for goodness sake, announced that he
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  Speaker 1: is so happy to be returning to Seattle. We'll talk
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  Speaker 1: more about that later on in the hour as well.
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  Speaker 1: College basketball, last night, you dub did win. Took him
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  Speaker 1: two overtimes to defeat Southern, but they are now four
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  Speaker 1: and one on the year. They won't play again until
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  Speaker 1: November twenty seventh. College football Huskies will be at UCLA
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  Speaker 1: this Saturday. The Coog's taken on James Madison this Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: College football playoff rankings. The top three remained the same
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  Speaker 1: that was easy. Georgia jumped into the top four. But
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  Speaker 1: the real intrigue exists pretty much when eight, nine and
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  Speaker 1: ten Oklahoma with the win over Alabama jumping to eight,
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  Speaker 1: Notre Dame actually falling to nine, and that still head
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  Speaker 1: of Alabama, who fell several spots from four all the
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  Speaker 1: way down to ten. It's going to be interesting to
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  Speaker 1: see how that shakes out. We only have two weeks
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  Speaker 1: left in the regular season, and of course conference championship
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  Speaker 1: games and in the National Football League. The brand new
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  Speaker 1: week gets started tomorrow in Houston. It'll be the Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: Bills taking on the Houston Texans, who will be without CJ.
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  Speaker 1: Stroud once again for concussion reasons. On Sunday, the Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: back in action, coming off their loss to the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: They'll be in Nashville, Tennessee to take on the Titans,
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  Speaker 1: and I guarantee you that's a trip. Greg Bell does
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  Speaker 1: not mind making joining us now our Seahawks insider with
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  Speaker 1: a Bill.
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  Speaker 6: It must be seven o'clock and time for twelfth Man
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  Speaker 6: Now with twump Man News, Here's Greg Bell with Chuck
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  Speaker 6: and Bud.
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  Speaker 1: Nashville is one of your favorite trips of the year.
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  Speaker 7: Right, It's probably the best NFL city. New Orleans is good,
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  Speaker 7: but it's Nashville's really Yeah, it's pretty good. I was
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  Speaker 7: joking in the summer when two summers ago we went
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  Speaker 7: for a week because they had the two joint practices
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  Speaker 7: and then the pre season game. I was joking with
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  Speaker 7: Mike McDonald that this past summer we went from Nashville
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  Speaker 7: maybe the best city, to Green Bay, Wisconsin. I like
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  Speaker 7: green Bay, but it's a completely different deal than Nashville.
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  Speaker 7: What's the what more joint practices than that?
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  Speaker 1: What's the biggest country act that you've seen in Nashville? I'
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  Speaker 1: and I know that there's acts all over the place,
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  Speaker 1: and most of them are not you know, Waylon Jennings.
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  Speaker 1: You know, not some big star Kenny Chesney. But have
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  Speaker 1: you seen any any up and comer there that you love?
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  Speaker 7: Well, they're all good, and I mean even the guy
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  Speaker 7: on the street corner with a can is really good.
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  Speaker 7: But I can't nobody I can name that. I ended
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  Speaker 7: up saying, oh, I saw him at the.
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  Speaker 8: Bar and Broadway. My goal, and I've yet to do,
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  Speaker 8: is go.
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  Speaker 7: To Ryman Auditorium for a show. I've been in I've
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  Speaker 7: been in there just to tour. And the original Grand
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  Speaker 7: Old Opery it's right downtown.
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  Speaker 8: They've moved it since then. The Grand Old Opry is
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  Speaker 8: moved out.
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  Speaker 7: Into a bigger place, but the original one. I want
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  Speaker 7: to see a show there, and that's my goal one
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  Speaker 7: of these times. Do that?
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  Speaker 1: Well, you can't do you? Are you going to have
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  Speaker 1: time this weekend?
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  Speaker 8: No?
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  Speaker 7: I don't even Yeah, I mean I'm home. I mean
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  Speaker 7: I'm there at like six o'clock on Saturday, so half
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  Speaker 7: there's a show going on.
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  Speaker 4: That's true, man, take it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, check that off the old bucket list, right.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not a huge country music. Bucky's probably more country
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  Speaker 7: music now, Bucky.
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  Speaker 2: I like country. I like pretty much everything. I like,
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  Speaker 2: I really everything that yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Man, all right, well let's dive into it. Seahawks at
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  Speaker 1: Titans this Sunday, And of course this is the day
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  Speaker 1: where we really kind of roll back our sleeves on
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  Speaker 1: the opponent. And this is a team that is one
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  Speaker 1: to nine this year. They have a fod game losing streak,
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  Speaker 1: but they've played probably the most murderous schedule in the
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  Speaker 1: National Football League. Is there anything in your estimation to
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  Speaker 1: worry about to fear about the Tennessee Titans this Sunday.
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  Speaker 7: Well, again, this isn't college football, even high school. Every
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  Speaker 7: NFL game has players who were the best of the
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: best in their towns and then their schools. And cam
• 16:48
  Speaker 7: Ward's number one pick and so yeah, they have to play.
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: They have the game plan, they help, but I'm not
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: going to sit here and tell you, like Lou Holtz
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: that the one and nine Tennessee Titans are the best
• 17:03
  Speaker 7: team that the Seahawks will play this year. McDonald's the
• 17:08
  Speaker 7: way his approach is all process oriented. It shouldn't be
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: hard for these guys to worry about their own process
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: and worry about the week to week. And I don't
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: anticipate the overlooking factor anything else. But it's the same
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: old deal. If they turn the ball over, it's gonna
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: be a close game, and they have a quarterback who's
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: just coming off a four interception game. I know it's
• 17:29
  Speaker 7: against the Rams, one of the better teams in the league,
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: but if you turn the ball over against anybody. It's
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: a close game and that's the mitigating factor for any
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: contest between no matter what the records are. And that'll
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: be the key on Sunday. If they don't turn the
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: ball over, this should be a win.
• 17:45
  Speaker 8: And that's no revelation.
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: I'm saying something all it's the age old thing. Cam
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: Ward is the number one overall pick prize quarterback goes
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: number one in the draft to a crappy team. That's
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: why they're number one in the draft. Go back John
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: l Way and Peyton Manning and Philip Rivers on and
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: on the first years are a rough go and their
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: offense is horrible their last and total offense they're last,
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: and rushing their thirtieth, and passing they're thirty second in points.
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: My good friend Teresa Walker at the AP in Nashville
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: used to cover Olympics with her.
• 18:21
  Speaker 8: She wrote this week after they lost.
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: Sixteen thirteen to the Texans that the problem with the
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: Titans is their inability offensively to play anything close to
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: complimentary football. They're the worst and in total yards and
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: points they went three and out five times and a
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: ninth ninth consecutive home loss to Houston so their defense
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: has played well and they get after the quarterback, they
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: pressure a lot. It's just offensively they've been inept and
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: forty one sacks is what cam Ward and the Titans
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: have allowed. Forty one Sam downs won have been sacked
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: ten times. Cam Woodsman was sacked forty one times.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, there's sometimes you get ready for
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: a week and you kind of feel like, well, we
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: better go out there and play.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Our a game. Now, I'm with you.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I don't think you ever overlook a team of professional
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: football players that are still fighting for their own job
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: and job security. And yet this is one where you
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: better do a few things right and obviously avoid the
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: catastrophic you know, four turnovers or you know, you know,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: four interceptions and fumbles and whatnot.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: But what is the main thing you think that.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: It's if the Seahawks just do this and you obviously,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: like I said, eliminate a bunch of turnovers that they
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: should be able to handle. They run the ball, or
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: get Sam Darnold back on track, or just play the
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: stout defense against a bad offense. What is the one
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: thing that they do and you're pretty sure that they're
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: going to be able to win?
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: This thing fairly easily.
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: Get after the quarterback.
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: Their front four has been doing it all year and
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: they haven't had the blitz much. And now they're playing
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: a team that, as I said, has been giving up
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: forty one sacks in ten games.
• 20:00
  Speaker 8: Game over for a game.
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: I'm pretty quick on mas there, so I think that
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: should be the decisive factor and they should be able
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: to do it without blitzing, which will allow them to
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: cover with seven which should be plenty to give cam
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: Wood problems reading coverages. To me, that would be the
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: simplistic answer to Okay, this should be the easy path
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: to victory. But again, don't play from me, eind. Don't
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: give a team that's buried and trying to get out
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: of the season an early lead, and that often happens
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: with turnovers. Donald's got to take care of the ball.
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: We talked about this. He's tied for the league league
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: in turnovers. He and Tungo Iola have fourteen each. He
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: has ten interceptions and four lost fumbles in ten games.
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: And it doesn't matter who they're playing. They got to
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: fix that and whatever the reasons are, and we talked
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: about the reasons against the Rams, but it was before
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: the Rams he was turning the ball over against the Cardinals.
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: He was turning the ball over against them, and they
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: turned the ball over against everybody by and large, and
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: you are not going to get away with too many
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: victories and certainly not going to win the division doing that.
• 21:04
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• 21:06
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• 21:08
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• 21:11
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• 21:15
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• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Running Game. I want to talk about it again. Bucky
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: brought up a really good point yesterday, because I think
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: everybody that watches the Seahawks run the football or try
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: to run the football can tell that ken Walker is
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: the more explosive, more talented running back between he and
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Zach Sharbonay. And certainly we've heard a lot in the
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: last few days about it's finally time to commit back
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: to ken Walker. I mean, the foot injury can't be
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: bothering him that much at this stage in the process.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Time to let it rip, let him go. But Bucky
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: brought up the fact that how much better the numbers
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: suggest Zach Sharbonay is in past protection over How huge
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: of a factor is that and why Sharbonet is carrying
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: so much of the load versus Walker.
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: Well, that does explain why he's in the game in
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: two minute drill and on third downs and when you go,
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: I mean that often are a lot of plays and
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: that explains a large reason why he has got more
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: snaps overall percentage of snaps forty nine to forty five,
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: even though he's played one fewer game. That is why
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: they've been trusting him in those spots. I would submit
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: it in a normal season. Yeah, that's a big deal.
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: The way that the Seahawks have kept Darnold for getting sacked,
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: the way Kobak schemes off of play action and rollouts,
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: running away from pressure off the run game has kept
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: him away from sacks. Ten sacks and ten games, I
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: would think it's time to say, Okay, maybe we don't
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: need the extra protector as the running back here. And
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: it's not like Walker doesn't do it, and it's just
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: not as stout of a guy. He's more of a shifty, elusive,
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: eelite guy. But he can do it if he has to.
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: He's more of an ACCT in catching and running after
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: the catch in the pass game. McDonald mentioned that when
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: I asked him about Walker getting more opportunities, because it's
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: not just in the run game, it's in the pass game. Two,
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: he had the twenty three yard catch and run and
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: the fourth quarter drive that he ended up scoring the
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: one yard touchdown run later in the drive. He started
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: another drive earlier in the half with an eighteen yard
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: catch and run. But those are just two yard dump
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: out passes that he turned into twenty yard games. Charony
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: doesn't do that. So to me, let's hedge a little
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: bit on Okay, we think our offensive line and scheme
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: can take care of Donald getting sacked. Let's go to
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: the more explosive player in the backfield for options, even
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: as a safety valve guy who can turn a two
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: yard pass into an eighteen yard run. Bottom line is
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: it's time for Kenneth Walker, both for him and for
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: the Seahawks. Seven games left in his contract.
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: Let them go.
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: I get the governing it and limiting him up to
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: this point, I understood it. I tried to explain it
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: all year to people who'd ask me why they're doing it,
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: but that it's go time to me.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Now for him, Yeah, without a doubt.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Does the health of Gray's abel affect how they should try.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: To run the ball or is it one of those whoever?
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: You know, if it's Christian Hands or whomever, You're still
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: going to go out there and try to maybe up
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: the volume for your running backs, especially ken Walker.
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we've seen it. They're going to run no matter what,
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: Bucky and no matter who's in there, no matter what
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: the situation, no matter whether they're getting yards or not,
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: Kubiak is gonna run. He runs more than anybody in
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: the league, whether they're getting yards or not.
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: On any given day.
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: If they go into the half with twenty yards rushing
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: on ten carries, thirteen carries, they're still running. In the
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: second half, they're down by two scores. Late in the rams,
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: they were still running. He's gonna do it. He's gonna
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: do it. Whether Christian Haynes is in their left guard
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: or not. It's merging to traffic and keep up, and
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: they're not going to to do less of anything just
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: because Haynes is playing. Haines is on spot. We've talked
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: about him. He's had like three chances to win a
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: starting job. They kept him almost stowed on layaway all
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: season on injured reserve before they finally activated him because
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: they had to because Sindell got her last week and
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: now he has to play. They didn't expect him obviously
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: to be starting when they activate him from IR on Saturday.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: But Isabel, do we have a fresh update on him
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: as it looking good bad?
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: No?
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: I mean yesterday was completely dark players and coach. Everything
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: was off day yesterday, so nothing new from Monday of
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: day to day. I'd be pretty surprised if he was
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: even anywhere near the practice field today, So I'm expecting
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: that it did not participate today.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Do you at least when you go to Nashville have
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: one of them hot chicken sandwiches?
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: I do?
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I do, yeah for sure, music and hot chicken.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Money on it, a little cold beer.
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: Sometimes, Yeah.
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: I tell you it's not a bad place to go.
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: I have to be watching an NFL game.
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: I'll tell you that A lot of Seahawk fans go
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: because of it too, and the team is not very
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: good in Tennessee, so the home tickets are available and
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: there'll be a lot of Seahawk fans in that stadium
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: on Sunday.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I want to go. I've never been there.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I've never been there, and it turns out it's only
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: like a five hour drive from where I grew up.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I never knew that until like last year, how close
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: it was to where I grew up.
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: I just assumed, Yeah, Tennessee is really long. It's true,
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: it goes.
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: Tennessee goes from like the Atlantic seaboard to the Midwest.
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: That's true.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, But I mean it's as close to me
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: in Illinois where I grew up as Chicago is, And
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I never realized that. I never put the two and
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: two together. So I am definitely when I go home
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: to see Mom, I'm going to make sure I make
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: a trip out to.
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: Nashville, Bucky. Even in Nashville, Yeah.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, played there, figure.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I've done a lot of really fun stuff in Nashville.
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: When I was growing up, the Nashville Sounds, the Triple
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: A team was the Pirates, one of the Pirates Triple
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: A teams for a while, And the joke in Pittsburg,
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: because the Pirates were so bad, was nobody ever wanted
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: to get promoted from the Nashville Sounds to the Pirates.
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: And that's part of the reason why Tea was so bad.
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: That was all.
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: When I was really young, the Pirates Triple A team
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: was in Honolulu and there was that was for sure.
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: Nobody wanted to come get promoted from Honolulu to to.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh two for three today, Kevin, Man, you better cool down,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: otherwise you better risk getting called up.
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: All right, man, there was a there was a PCL team.
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: Did you know that there was a PCL team in Honolulu.
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: It cost a hell of a lot of money for
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: teams to travel to.
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: But yeah, the Pirate that was the Pirates Triple A
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: team in the seventies.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, the upside of getting demoted. All right, Uh well,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: thank you, Sarah. We'll talk to you tomorrow rounds Able tomorrow.
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: Okay, Happy Wednesday.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Greg Bell Arcyhawks inside of joining us right
• 27:58
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• 28:51
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• 28:54
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• 29:01
  Speaker 1: he going to kickstart an early stove period. I mean,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: seems like we've gotten into this habit thanks to Scott
• 29:09
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• 29:13
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• 29:16
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• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's time to talk to Cam Cleveland here on
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: the program. I just want to say one o the
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: things and then we'll get Cam's thoughts on this. From
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: the previous segment, like Ole miss is getting recruiting classes
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: on par with Alabama for the first time like ever.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Part of that is Lane Kiffin, I think is pretty
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: gifted in a living room, pretty charming guy when he
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: wants to be pretty charismatic. But the other part of
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: it is he's getting the nil moneies. Even though he
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't have a program as elite as LSU or Florida,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: He's still winning and out recruiting nearly everybody in the
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: SEC right now. So what is the problem, Lane?
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: Why?
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Why are you looking for green or grass when you
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: actually are beating some of those blue bloods at the
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: recruiting game because of you and you're in il monies
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: and because Oxford's such a cool campus.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, unless he just feels like, boy, I can imagine
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: how great my recruiting could be if I could just
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: put a fence around Florida.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Putting a fence around Florida. You got Miami, you got
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Florida State, and you got everybody in the country trying
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: to take players out of Florida.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: If you're a coach, especially these top guys, and they
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: probably think, oh, you just imagine what I can.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Do with that. Well, joining us now is Cam Cleveland.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Good morning, Cam, Hey, good morning, gentlemen. How's it treating
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: you well?
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I just you can weigh in on this, because I
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: just spent the last second talking if Steve Sarkejian can't
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: be happy in Austin, Texas running the Texas Longhorns and
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: there are reports that he wants out, and Lane Kiffin
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: is once out of Oxford, where he's being treated like
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: a god because Ole Miss has reached its greatest heights
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: under his direction. I mean, we've spent five years in
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: this nil period, coaches complaining that there's no loyalty from
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: these players, and it's like, well, there's no loyalty with
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: you either. I mean, if you can't be happy at Austin, Texas,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: where are you going to be happy Cam?
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: Well, that's I think that's the dilemma that we're in.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: And then the point, the point all of it is
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: is doesn't matter what brand you wear in your helmet
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: or what logo you have, if you have people with
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: revenue that are willing to spend it, you can win. Yeah,
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: And I think that Kurt. I think, guys, really, I
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: think Kurt Signetti changed college football in his two years.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: I think he has thrown an extremely massive monkey ranch
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: into college football. And it's not just is it's not
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: like just what he was able to accomplish so quickly.
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: It's because these conferences are so big, and that scheduling
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: is is it's impossible to balance scheduling, so you get
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: big sways and misses with certain and how it's built,
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: like how Wisconsin had to play it one of the
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: hardest schedules, if not the hardest schedule in all of
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: the country. And somehow Indiana has had easy schedules the
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: last two years. I don't want to say what it's easy,
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: but you know what I mean, when you have an
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: eighteen team conference and you have a sixteen team conference.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: Everybody's looking for grass is always greener. I don't think
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: it exists, guys, I don't. I think Clyde. I think
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: the way the classes are now, I think that talent
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: has been spread out. Yep, you cannot have three deep anymore.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: You're lucky to have a deep and a half because
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: if you don't play that kid, guess guess where he goes.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: He's Julian Sane from Alabama. Now he's could be the
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: number one quarterback in all the country at Ohio State.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: That's how it happens, and it happens quick.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody brings up the Indiana signetti and it's a
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: great example. But look at what Texas Tech did. Texas
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Tech became the same thing powerhouse overnight because they have
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: three or four guys nil money that are like the
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: get whoever you want coach. You know, I just want
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the Raiders to win oil money, right and now all
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: of a sudden they're an overnight powerhouse. I mean, is
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: there any advantage of being at Florida over Texas Tech?
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Right now? As the head coach, I think I'd want
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: to be where I've got rich oil, silly rich oil.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Guys giving me money to go get players.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: Well and truthfully, everybody else that's looking around the country.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: You know what, you know who's just over there laughing, going, guys,
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: welcome to our organ and phil they've been They're like, hey,
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: welcome to our blueprint. Welcome to the blueprint. And we've
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: been doing this longer than you guys.
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: Have been awake.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: You just figuring this out. So I mean, you guys
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: are all acting like we like we created this, and
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: I'm not kidding you. They did, and they're up in
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: the top corner and they've had to pull people and
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: get guys from around the country. And so yeah, you're
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: exactly right. I'd like to go to a place, And
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: it just depends on the kind of coach and the
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: kind of person you want to be with us. And
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: right now, unfortunately, and I'm going to say the reality
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: of what it is, the SEC controls college football, ESPN
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: controls college football. The mouths and the eyes do it.
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: And that is the conference that everybody thinks is the mecca.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: And but unfortunate, but also the last two college football
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: champions come from the Big Ten. So there's been a
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: little bit of monkey Ranch in their mind. So there's
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: a lot of there's a lot of drama. It's like
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: a giant soap opera a college football and I kind
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: of like it.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Like Thepa Well, I mean time is somewhat into you
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Dubbed then I mean if if the the grass is
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: greener on the other side of the fence for a
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: lot of these coaches, I mean, where is the feeling
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: right now for you? And what do you think the
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: national feeling is about you? Dub Is you Dubbs grass
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Well really green? Because I mean we've we've we're still
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: hearing rumors of whether Jedfish is wanting to stay or
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: whether he would think that there's a greener grass.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: Well, I take I'm a husky for life. I'm never
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: going to deviate from from what I I mean, I
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: was born to play and that's it may sound a
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: little cheesy, but I grew up in the Northwest and
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: I always wanted to wear that. So that's my connection,
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: is my regional connection. You can't take that away. That's
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: never College football is way too regional, it's way too tribal.
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: It's it's it we're trying to create.
• 36:08
  Speaker 8: Though.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: My my concern it always is is I want to
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: I want to make Husky fans. I want to create
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: a new a new group of young kids and families
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: that take their kids to Husky games. And that's that's
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: how you do it. And I want it to be
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: their religion. It's that sounds strange, but you want to
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: talk about it during the week. You want to have that.
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: That's my only fear of what I look regionally and
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: why it's different. And I think we can still get that.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: But when we talk about what coach Fish does, I
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: have no idea. I mean, the way he he wants
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: to be right now, he's watching a Husky's head coach,
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: and I I, like I said last week, I'm fully
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: on board with supporting it. And when you look at
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: the talent that we do have, look at all the freshmen.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: Nobody's playing more freshmen in the country than Jedfish. Over
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: two thousand snaps have come from true freshmen this year.
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: That's increble the amount of kids that he's had. And
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: it really shows the depth and how he's building it
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: and what he's had to build with young talent, and
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: how the cupboards were bare when Kaylin left and how
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: he had to interject his type of guy. But go
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: on the transfer portal and now you're sitting at seven wins,
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: you have a chance to get to eight and nine
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: and knockoff Oregon. I have to take a positive spin
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: on this what he's been able to do, because there's
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: been guys that have taken over programs and it's ugly
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: and it's and not been able to be significant. So
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: he's done a great job so far in this two
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: year run, and he's building young talent and getting guys
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: to be here, and that's that's what it takes.
• 37:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Cam Cleveland is Weather's former you'd tied end and current
• 37:46
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• 37:49
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• 37:53
  Speaker 1: every Wednesday at this time to talk some Huskies football.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Thanks to Warrior injury law, battle tested, well, Washington gets
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: back on the winning track Saturday against Purdue. I know
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Purdue's not a good team, but what were beyond the score,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: the encouraging signs that the Huskies got back on track
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: toward becoming a better team growing last week against the
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: boiler Makers.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: Well, let's start with the good stuff. Is being able
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: to run the football. That was really good. Everybody wants
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: to talk about how well the offense played and demand played.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: I thought that was great. You had to move John
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: Mills to right tackle, which was again, here's an eighteen
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: year old kid now that can be one of the
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: most versatile alignment in the country, jumps to the right side.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: You're redoing a little bit of your out. You lose
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: your best wide receiver, you have your starting running backs
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: not out. But then you bring in a young freshman,
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: you have Adam Muhammad, and you ran the football extremely
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: well and you took care of the football. The thing
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: that I'm really rest with right now, guys, is how
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: good our defense is playing and how well they're playing.
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: And you know, coach Walters, he had I don't know
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: if he had extra motivation, but he was very familiar
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: with that team and their scheme and the coaches and
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: what they wanted to do. And I don't see a
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: lot of two quarterback systems that I would ever play.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: And Purdue tried to play it. Although they played. I
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: wanted Middleton the most, but it it's just it. It
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: didn't look like it was working. But it didn't matter
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: because our defense was playing I mean lights out the secondary,
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: so I'm crazy. He encouraged with how well the defense
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: is playing, especially under these last two games and seeing
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: our offense. It is still it's still a work in progress.
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: I'm just going to tell you Demon was better in
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: the pocket.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: You could.
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: Coach Fist said that in his press conference, also mentioning
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: out he was more efficient in the pocket getting rid
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: of the football decord Graff was really good. You got
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: to see him catch the football a lot. But we're
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: we're a strange group. Forty five points that we score
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: on average at home in Big Ten, seven points on
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: the road. Our offense scores in the Big Ten. That
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: is an extreme discrepancy between the two offenses. One is
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: a home cooking one is I don't know, you're eating
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: kale on the road. I don't know what's going on.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: So whatever, we need to figure it out. And when
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: we go down to the Rose Bowl this week, we
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: have to take maybe it's a southern drop that that's
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: a better plane flight that direction. I means the east
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: flight is not as not as good. So we need
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: to find a way to take that offense and put
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: some put some points up on.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Grass cam the the defense has been pretty impressive. I mean,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: I think coming into the season, most we're thinking the secondary,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: especially with the length on the outside, was going to
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: be good. And yet I remember thinking the first couple
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: of games, even against like Colorado State, that they was like, boy,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: there's times when the front seven didn't necessarily Are you
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: feeling like the front seven that the run defense has
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: short itself up to over the last few weeks.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think not only just the run defense, but
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: the linebacker crew and again another freshman's day, Zadari's Rainy
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: Salle Who's he had a pick. I thought he was
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: one of his best games, not only had him as
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: player of the game. On the defense, a lot of
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: solo tackles, the linebacker crew, x Ray Alexander who, all
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: those guys have settled in and they just settled into
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: a good feeling. And everybody that we faced this year,
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: guys has run this exact same offense. Like, look, chick
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: Kelly changed college football, but even what he did at
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: Ohio State, everybody in the Big Ten copies and when
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: I mean everybody, every except us, like one of us
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: and probably now I would say maybe USC, but everybody
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: has copycat styles and Perdue was exactly the same. They
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: ran the same thing as Ale State, the same thing
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: as Wisconsin, because Wisconsin changed their offense that week to
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: try to adapt to more run scheme. You've seen it
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: from anybody that wants to run double polls or downhill
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: tight ends crossing the way Michigan runs it. We've had
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: to adapt and coach Walters, and that crew has gotten
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: so much better with their discipline. Now, yes, the talent
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: is different. It's not Ohio State, it's not Michigan. Okay,
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: you face the Illinois team who ran that same style
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: and you played very, very well. The elements were garbage
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: at Wisconsin and this week Ucla, I don't know what
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: you're gonna see. I mean, there's just it could be anything.
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, Jerry Neuheisel, I mean we all know what.
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: Who knows what. They could throw monkey wrenches in whatever
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: they want to run.
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: It doesn't matter.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: I think this defense is playing excellent.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: And I think you've gone You've given two compliments to Oregon.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: That's two more than I think you're allowed to give
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: to the organ DUC program.
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, not a compliment, it's just stating facts.
• 43:01
  Speaker 8: But that's dang it.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Don't say that on that very good facts, good job.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Before we get to UCLA. I you know, it seems
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: you brought the freshman thing up, and I do want
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: to ask, is John Mills so good that, I mean,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: is he inevitably gonna be left tackle not just with
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: the Huskiers, but that's his long term NFL as well?
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: And then Jordan Washington. I mean, he's kind of has
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: an unorthodox gait about him. He looked kind of you know,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know, there was just like too much. It
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: didn't look like Carl Lewis, you know, running, and yet
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: he was running away from fools on Saturday. How fast
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: is that, dude? So Mills future left tackle? How fast
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: is Jordan Washington?
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: Well say it with me.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: With all those freshmen, I mean, and I'm so great
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: to hear that. Raydon Weinsbright is okay after that shot.
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: I know that's all scary too. But the freshman des
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: Roebuck and then Jordan Washington and John Mills, And yeah,
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: I think Johnny is just because he's physically so gifted
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: at his size already, he could play anywhere on the
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: offensive line. But I think eventually you have to make
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: what's called a business decision, right, and that's fair. I'm
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: not gonna I mean, when you're six six almost six
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: seven three d and thirty pounds and you can play. Now,
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: the thing is when you play out on the edge
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: at left tackle, you have to be as athletic and
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: long and strong, and he has all those abilities. So yeah,
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: I think he can play that spot. I'm not going
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: to tell you that he can't play guard also, but
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: it really depends on where he wants to settle in
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: and what he figures out is his best side. He
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: might like the right tackle side, truthfully, and we'll see.
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: But Jordan is again, you don't really notice how fast
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: somebody is until you see them run a play and
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: you go, all right, that guy should have the angle
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: on him. Nope, nope not and he goes by everybody. Yeah,
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: he's pretty fast. And I said this on the broadcast.
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: I'd love to see him in demand in a race,
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: and I've heard the word is they're very close and
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: demon is faster and I went, okay, now that's different.
• 45:04
  Speaker 8: Uh, but it's but in.
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: My mind when I see a freshman run like that,
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: I think long time ago, I know, back in when
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: we were still chewing on on bones and and and
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: in cars with our feet like Fred Flintstone. I think
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: a Napoleon Kaufman watching a freshman turn a corner. That's
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: that's the kind of speed he has.
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: Now, strength wise, it's he needs as he gets stronger
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: in the weight room, becomes better. But yeah, it's you don't.
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: That's just a gift, guys, You just don't. You can't
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: just make that a kid just shows up on campus
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: and can run like that as incredible.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Obviously, you want to find a way to win this
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: game against UCLA this weekend. I think having Joana Coleman
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: and Boston Denzel Boston back would be one step in
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: that right direction. Uh, any word or what do you
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: think about their availability?
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't seen it, and so truthfully, guys, I don't.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't expect it. I'm not not that I have Again,
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: I'm not the insider that it talks to the trainers
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: and all of that. But I'm looking at it from
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: a perspective of these guys are both high competitive. It's
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: gonna be hard to keep them off the field. But
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: can you win this football game? And my question is,
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: can you win this football game? At UCLA with who
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: you have in the receiver room and who you have
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: in the running back room. Right now, on the road
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: against UCLA without those two guys, I feel like you
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: can if you play the way you should, the way
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: you should like you do at Husky Stadium, and complement
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: that on the road and save those guys health wise.
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: For arguably it's going to be the biggest game of
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: the season at the end of the year. But you
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: have to win this one. You can't lay the egg
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: and overlook like you did at Wisconsin and Elementary Elements.
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: You have to win games week at and weekend in
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: week out. So what I'd love to see them on
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: the field, of course I would, because they are difference makers.
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: And if they're not, then again, we got a bunch
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: of freshmen that are excited to play.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I'm happy to see more Jordan Washington. Frankly, nothing against
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Jonah Coleman, but I'd like to see him play a
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: little bit more in this game against the Bruins. All right,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: in our last minute here, isn't it nice to face
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: a conference rival that's actually a conference rival?
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: How about that there's actually familiarity And the only thing
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: is there's history, and we're losing the Rose Bowl. Guys,
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: we're losing the Rose Bowl. Now I know why they're
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: going to go to so far. I get it. There's
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: more amenities there. But the thing that the Rose Buls
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: no longer be part of UCLA, Ah, it just that hurts.
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: Everything we grew up with, guys, is just gone. It's
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: small as much as small, a small.
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: Whipper in my voice.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: It's a little disappointing. But hopefully the Rose Bull figures
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: it out and we get the national championship game. There
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: forever figure it out, college football.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Figure it out, college football. All right, man, great stuff,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: as always, Thank you very much, we appreciate it. Enjoy
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: the weekend.
• 47:59
  Speaker 8: We'll be all right, guys.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, Cam Cleveland joining us right here
• 48:04
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• 48:05
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• 48:40
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• 48:43
  Speaker 1: going this offseason. I had to crank my crystal Ball
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: forecast out this week for what I think the Mariners
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: could do this offseason to make this a championship team.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: We'll go over at next Sports Radio ninety three point
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• 49:00
  Speaker 1: the rest of the off season. So we're excited. Haven't
• 49:02
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• 49:04
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• 49:08
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• 49:12
  Speaker 1: crystal Ball forecast for the off season for the Mariners
• 49:15
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• 49:17
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• 49:20
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• 49:23
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• 49:25
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• 49:29
  Speaker 1: there for you to read. It's rather lengthy. I mean,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I'm Sorry, it's not just thirteen words that you can
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: breeze through, but nonetheless it's a breakdown of what I
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: think could happen for the Mariners this offseason, and it's
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: actually important to kind of remind you of what it's
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: all about. I gladly accept the financial restrictions Jerry and
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Justin admittedly operate under to create a doable laundry list
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: of roster moves that I believe would deliver a world
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: championship to Seattle. So the mindset going into doing the
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Crystal Ball forecast, anybody can put together a wish list
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: and spend the Mariners off this Mariner his ownership's money.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, Kyle Tooker, Kyle Schwarber, and Trek Schouble. You know,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: anybody can put that together. I try to stay within
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: the parameters that the organization has set forth for how
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: much they're going to spend this offseason to try and
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: create a better team, a better roster to finally win
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: a championship. So that included Josh Naylor being re signed.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Check that included either Polonko or swore As being signed.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: I think that will be the next thing in according
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: bucket to Justin Homander might be the next two things.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: I operate under the belief and it is detailed in
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: the crystal Ball forecast that it will be Polonco or
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: swore As, with Polonko being the priority. But Justin Holander
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: said yesterday that they want to re sign all three
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: of them, Naylor, Polanco and Swarez this offseason. Nice be nice.
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: I take that.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of where my mind has been at.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: And I mean my heart is like, oh man, you're
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: asking for too much. It's we're creeping up on the
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Christmas time of year, and I don't know what your
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: folks did, but my folks would give us like the J. C.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Pennies catalog or whatever, and we would turn to the
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: toy section and we got to circle what we wanted.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, I've never even heard of this, the Draftmas catalog.
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean I didn't know if your parents did
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: that during Christmas or not, but I we we ended up.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: I would circle a whole bunch of things, basically knowing
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: there's no chance I'm going to get all of that right.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: And yet, uh, this is one where I don't want
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: to just circle two things. I circled in big boat
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: like a bunch of circles around Josh Navio that was
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: first and foremost. And yet if they end with just that,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: like literally come back sayans polonko, sans Gino, then I'm like,
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: you're playing with fire here. Did you not really recognize
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: and feel what we did last season and how how
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: fun that was?
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Still it would be we already have a better off
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: season than we had last year. Yeah, even if it
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: just stops, they don't do anything else, if they just
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: go fishing in Barbados, we already have had a better
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: off season than we had all of last year.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, a full season of Naylor versus most of
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: the season Solano. That's an alligator mouth towards nails.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: And yet there's part of me while I understand the
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: exercises trying to figure out.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: What they could and maybe would.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Do within the parameters that we we recognize they set
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: upon themselves and they feel that they have. And yet
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: to me it's hopefully the ownership is the ownership you'd
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: need when you need them to be willing to open
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: it up a little bit. I mean the fact that
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: they end up playing as many postseason games this year
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: that you'd get none of that money if you don't
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: make the postseason, hopefully that like, well, look at all
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: this extra cash we got, let's go ahead and not
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: just bring back one or two, but possibly entertain the
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: idea of having all three.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I think it goes the opposite way. I think since
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: they had what I felt was an f of an
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: off season and then still had created a playoff caliber team,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: and then when the time came to add the real
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: important pieces for the most important games of the year,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: that they were aggressive at the trading deadline. Gave him
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: a chance to assess what they do have in house,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: and then also gave a chance to assess the market.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: I think they're probably emboldened by that and probably less
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: likely to go further and do that off season that
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: they've never done, which is spend a lot of money
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: and add a lot of free agents or go over
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: the projected payroll. My guess is they're less likely Ashley
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: to do that than they've been before.
• 53:47
  Speaker 9: I would think so too, because they had success with
• 53:49
  Speaker 9: the formula last year, so.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: I think they're in love with the formula last year.
• 53:52
  Speaker 9: And again Jerry brought it up in his postgame or
• 53:55
  Speaker 9: postseason comments. He talked about the success of that formula.
• 53:58
  Speaker 9: He said, it worked with Luis Castile when we brought
• 54:00
  Speaker 9: him in, and then we were able to keep him
• 54:02
  Speaker 9: long term. It's you know, and that's our goal with
• 54:05
  Speaker 9: Naylor and Suarez, and is to have these guys come
• 54:09
  Speaker 9: in at the best time of the year in Seattle,
• 54:11
  Speaker 9: fall in love with the city, fall in love with
• 54:13
  Speaker 9: the team, and then make their job easier to try
• 54:15
  Speaker 9: to resign them.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it did work. It's worked two times with two
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: major players here in Castillo and Naylor. And so I
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: think Castillo is the crux of the Crystal Ball forecast
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: because if you do want an offseason, that includes not
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: just bringing back at least two of those three guys
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: that we mentioned, but maybe adding something because there's always
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: fun adding something as well. I mean, you don't want
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: to just get your same favorite toy back at Christmas.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: You know, mom goes in the back and just rewraps
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: your favorite toy that you already had for the last year.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, you want something new, something that you circled
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: into your catalog. So if we're to believe that the
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Mariners aren't going to go beyond the payroll they finished
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: with at least to start the season in twenty twenty six. Me,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: you have to create money somewhere. That means you probably
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: have to trade Luis Castillo. It could be Randy Arose Arena,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: but Castillo, to me makes the most sense to move
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: on from now. I have predicted that he was going
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: to be traded now too off seasons in a row.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: But if you are going to stick to that salary cap,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: self imposed, a salary cap that you've given yourself getting
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: rid of Luis Castillo, and I hate to put it
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: that way, but I don't think you're going to get
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: that much in return for him. That's probably the crux
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: of this offseason, whether you can move him and his
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: entire salary to create more spending area.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: If that's the way that it has to go, I
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: suppose that you know it's it's understandable. I mean, because
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: you are basically relinquishing a piece, and he's been a
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: good piece, and maybe right very good. He hasn't been
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: the ace, but that's in large part because you've got
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: a bunch of youngsters that are chomping at the bit
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: to overtake him, and and have overtaken him to some degree.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: And yet I understand how that.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Would make sense if they if they were going to
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: if they were going to move on from somebody where
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: there's money involved, then it's you move on from the
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: place that you have, you know a lot of and
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: that is starting pitching. I mean, they have a lot
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: of good young starting pitching. They're not paying a bunch
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: of money to you know. To me, that would hopefully
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: open up the check book a little bit to where
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: they can start the process of what I want them
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: to do long term wise, and that start locking some
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: of these guys up, get locking Gilbert up. But if
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: it's still they're going to kick that can down the
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: road and just do the arbitration thing with him and
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: the rest of these guys that are eligible, and they
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: could go out and spend money on another bat possibly somewhere,
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: whether it's the Polanco and Suarez something like that. Then
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: I like that idea because you do have guys waiting
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: in the wings that are capable of filling that fifth
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: spot in the rotation.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: I think Gilbert is a very strong candidate for one
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: of those extensions. I did not mention that in the
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: my crystal Ball forecast, and I meant to. I think
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: he is the candidate this offseason to possibly be given
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: one of those extensions, not only because he's going to
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: be a free agent faster than any of the other
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: starting pitchers, but also he seems like the type of
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: guy that wants to be here, doesn't want to leave Cal' side,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: loves being a Mariner, and wants to finish this thing off.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: I think he's the most likely candidate to give you
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a deal, and so I think
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: they are going to work on that this offseason. But
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: if you do move Castillo, and I'm not saying that
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: they will, but if they do move Castillo and it
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: does free up some space, it'll be interesting to see
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: if they use that savings to go out and find
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: a cheaper, not necessarily a worse, but a cheaper starting pitcher,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: like I suggest Joe Ryan of Minnesota, who will cost
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: you some prospects. He's going to cost you a really
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: good package of players. Go but he only costs six
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: million dollars. So go get a Joe Ryan. Or do
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: you trade from that r that is you're starting pitching
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: and if you can't resign all three of those guys,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: do you go after a bat And that's where maybe
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Muna Taki Morikami, the new Japanese import that is coming
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: over that the Mariners have been linked to a lot
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: might come into the conversation.
• 58:19
  Speaker 9: I I I just my priority obviously, as you said,
• 58:24
  Speaker 9: the keeping logan Gilbert great. As far as Luis Castillo,
• 58:27
  Speaker 9: we've talked about getting rid of him, as you mentioned
• 58:29
  Speaker 9: several times, and that he is a trade possibility.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: His salary is high.
• 58:32
  Speaker 9: So if there's the right thing that you could get
• 58:35
  Speaker 9: rid of him, and then you're doing something not just
• 58:38
  Speaker 9: My only concern is that they'd trade him away just
• 58:40
  Speaker 9: to save money and then not really replace him with anything.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: I'm operating under the belief that if you have given
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: yourself a self imposed salary cap, then you are trading
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: him strictly for the purpose of better using the money. Yeah.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: So if you could move him and you wouldn't get
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: much in return to a team that desperately needs a
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: starting pitcher, now you've got money to work with, and
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: maybe that is because you have prospects to move. You
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: can trade prospects for a Joe Ryan who only makes
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: six million dollars and is better and younger than Castillo. Yeah,
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: and now you use your what you do have. If
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: you don't have money, you do have prospects to move,
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: and so you use Castillo to get rid of him,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: to get the money that you need, to use the
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: prospects for a trade to get the cheaper, better, younger
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: pitcher to add to the starting rotation. And now suddenly
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: you're even better in your starting rotation and you have
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: a little bit of money left over to spend on offense.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Great in theory, it's great in theory, but again, they've
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: got to find a taker for Luis Castillo. From what
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: I heard in the offseason, they tried. They when they
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: did knock on doors, everybody they asked wanted them to
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: eat money. And that was a year ago. So he's
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: got even less trade value one year later, with making
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: twenty two and a half million dollars per year. We're
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: gonna ask Jerry Depoto about some of these things, not
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: all of them that would be prying, but he'll be
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: joining us at nine o'clock today. Coming up next, are
• 1:00:07
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• 1:00:10
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• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Naylor makes the catch, doubles it off, and that's the
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: ball game. Nine o'clock hour here on this Wednesday, Chuck Bow,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: former Mariner Bucky Jacobs, and Ashley Ryan with you, and
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: it's great to have on the program. Haven't chatted with
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: them in a while. The president of baseball operations for
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: your Seattle Mariners, Jerry Depoto, joins us here on Chuck
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: and Buck.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: Good morning, sir, Good morning guys. How you doing.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Oh great, We are great. Thank you very much for
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: being with us, so we appreciate it. By the way,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: I just gave your name just a quick Google and
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: it's still first as American baseball player. Do you like
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: that or do you want them to say president.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: You know, I am American.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 10: I guess that it was American or what American was
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 10: baseball player?
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: Right, something like that.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still a Google still recognizing you as ballplayer
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: first over executive. So very interesting discovery here this morning.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Let me first just say, before we get into anything
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: about the offseason, congratulations on your twenty twenty five season.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: And I know that you didn't win the Ultimate Prize,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: but I gotta believe that you're pretty proud of your organization,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: your staff for what was a wonderful ride in a
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: very successful campaign.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I mean just after the season ended,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 10: it was it was a little tough to digest for
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 10: all of us. But now as we step away from it,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 10: I think we have a great appreciation for what we
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 10: were able to accomplish. Won a division championship, came within
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 10: eight outs of a World Series, and we can all
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 10: be proud of that, and it's a star darting point
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 10: for where we go in twenty six.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is just the starting point, I agree.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: And yet it was it was a tough pill to
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: swallow for all of us that were here rooting you
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: guys on. But to me to some degree, yesterday was
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: kind of almost the period or the exclamation point on
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: the end of the season, the signing of Naylor. So
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: congrats on getting that done, and obviously that was priority
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: number one. How how long were you guys working on this?
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: How close was it up until we actually got the
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: news yesterday the day before.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 10: You know, we we've it's been something on our minds
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 10: since before we even acquired Josh. You know, as we
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 10: were going through the discussions with Arizona to make that deal,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 10: we always talk about, you know, how we can govern
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 10: the long term, and this was something we were interested in,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 10: and then you know, lo and behold he played even
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 10: better than we could have hoped. And you know, the
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 10: rare all star hitter who thrives in our ballpark and
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 10: just loves hitting there, and and and it shows. So
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 10: you know, shortly after the series ended in Toronto, we
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 10: we got together with Josh's representatives and and started working
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 10: through the details on a contract, made an offer, got
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 10: on a plane, went down and visited with with Josh
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 10: and his family and walked him through kind of what
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 10: we do. You know, he wasn't with us throughout, you know,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 10: like so many of our guys, you know, Cal Julio,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 10: George Logan, et cetera. Josh joined us in July, so
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 10: we we walked him through what we do, how we
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 10: got here. I think he had a pretty good sense
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 10: for who we were from the time we all spent together,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 10: and he had a natural comfort and from there it
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 10: came together. Kai didn't take two weeks or thereabout to
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 10: get from beginning to end, which I think speaks to
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 10: first how aggressive we were and how much he wanted
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 10: to be here. And it was a pretty good intersection.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and a significant salary, a significant length of contract.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying you had to convince John Stanton to
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: make this move or ownership, but if you did, what
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: how are you selling we have to keep Josh Naylor
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: to anybody that's uncertain.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: You know, he does just about everything on the field.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 10: I thought it was pretty telling, you know it just
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 10: hopping on the line, that the intro was Josh making
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 10: a defensive play down the.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: Line and then doubling someone off.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 10: That's that's for a guy who's probably more known for
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 10: his bat or his wheels. You know, he does he
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 10: does everything. You know, it's a he has a great
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 10: instinct on the field. He has a great way of
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 10: interacting with his teammates, He has leadership skills, he connects
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 10: with fans. He hits. He hits, really he is about
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 10: a well balanced a hit or he takes his walk.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 10: He doesn't strike out much. He has power. He's been
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 10: a run producer throughout his career, and you know, it's
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 10: it's tough to really bang a hole in it. He's
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 10: a twenty year old for twenty eight year old free agent,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 10: which is also you know, a pret rare thing.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: So it was very easy.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 10: Conversation to have with with everybody involved, especially John, because
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 10: you know, he saw what Josh provided us in all
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 10: those areas over the course of the last half.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: Of the season.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 10: And and I will say this about John and our
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 10: ownership group in general. They love the team and they
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 10: love our players, you know. And and by the end
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 10: of the season, Josh wasn't an acquisition at the deadline.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 10: He was a Mariner, and I think that was important
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 10: for all of us to maintain.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: By the way, I have nicknamed Naylor Thicky Henderson in
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: case you want to run with that around the office.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep that one in my bag. I don't
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: want I don't want to get killed. Yeah.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: He also busted out yesterday Jerry the round mound of
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: the Puget sound.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, maybe don't bring that one up at spring training.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: I thought that maybe what want to avoid that one.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: I like the Jimmy nails. Apparently that's what he gets
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: a lot of times in the clubhouse. I mean, when
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: we're talking about a guy like this, I'm curious how
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: you find out about a guy's makeup.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: Obviously, you can watch stuff. You have people that you know.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: In other organizations, and and you can dive into stuff.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: But to me, the makeup of Naylor is I've been
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: saying for a couple of years, this is a guy
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: that I wanted you guys to go out and get
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: just because I think there's a grit that he brings
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: to the table.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: There's there's part of that.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Comes with a baseball IQ, which he obviously gets not
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: being very fleet a foot, but sniper in thirty bags
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: last year. That's something that happens between the years, even
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: more than with the legs. And so how is your guys'
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: philosophy in trying to dive into the person beyond just
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: the stats baseball player the stuff that anybody can google.
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  Speaker 10: You know, a lot of what you just said. It's
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 10: recon it's picking up the phone. It's calling people who've
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 10: played with them that you may have connection to. It's
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 10: asking our players what they think. It's it's visiting with
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 10: you know, in this case, probably not super helpful, visiting
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 10: with the team he's currently playing for, because I don't
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 10: know how you know reasonable you're going to get you
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 10: a description. But the guy's in Arizona. We're of a
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 10: particularly close relationship with Mike Hasn and Amil Saude and
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 10: and you know, Tory Lavulo and his crew are are
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 10: good with our people, and they had nothing but great
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 10: things to say about Josh and more importantly, his time
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 10: in Cleveland.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, he was there a long time. You know.
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  Speaker 10: We also have good relationships with the people there, and
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 10: and we're able to kind of get a better look
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 10: under the hood at what Josh was about. But even
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 10: just on the surface, the things that attracted us to
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 10: him in the first place, where is it intensity? The
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 10: IQ which if you watch him play, you know, for
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 10: any more than a day or two, it just jumps
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 10: out at you. And we needed a player who brought
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 10: a little edge, and we got so much more than
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 10: the edge.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 10: What he does in terms of of lifting teammates, know,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 10: baseball education in the clubhouse. It's he eats it and
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 10: sleeps it and drinks it and he can talk it.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 10: And his teammates respect him because of what he puts
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 10: into it and how much he puts out.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 10: It's the effort level is extreme and he never lets up.
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  Speaker 10: I think the way he would like to be, you know,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 10: classified as a player, I think is just as a winner.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 10: And and I could not agree more with that description
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 10: of Josh he's he just brings it every day.
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  Speaker 1: Got great fancy shoes too. Jerry Depoto, American baseball player,
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  Speaker 1: is with us here on Chuck and Buck in the
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: Morning Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R FM. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people think that, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you've announced it that our priorities is try to keep
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: some of the guys that are our own that are
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: entering into free agency. I've been operating under the belief
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: that that's probably Naylor and then Polonco or Suarez, but
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: justin kind of said yesterday that maybe it's Polanco and Swarez.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what kind of chance are you going to
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  Speaker 1: give us that all three of those guys will be
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  Speaker 1: back in Mariner uniforms next year?
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  Speaker 10: Well, a lot has to go right, you know, frankly
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  Speaker 10: for that to happen, and you know, including markets and
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 10: trends and forces working in our favor.
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  Speaker 4: But we would love him all to be back.
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  Speaker 10: And you know, at various stages in our season, each
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  Speaker 10: one of those guys you could prop up as as
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 10: a hero. And you know, and I do think from
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 10: beginning to end, Jorge Polanco's season for US was really
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 10: super underrated. And you know, obviously the big hits in
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 10: the postseason and and you know, the things that he
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 10: did in October were notable. But you know, from from
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 10: really opening day on one of the most consistent offensive
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 10: players we had all year long. High contact, didn't punch,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 10: it was he provided power. It was about as well
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 10: balanced left and right as you could be. And he
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 10: proved very good at handling the dhrol, which is something
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 10: a lot of guys naturally gravitate toward. And you know,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 10: while Gino didn't hit for a high average after we
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 10: acquired him at the deadline, we know what you know, brains,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 10: and he did deliver the pop and more importantly, he
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 10: delivers leadership and he brings people together.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 10: But again a lot of things would have to go
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 10: right for us to keep the whole band together. But
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  Speaker 10: we're going to do our best to make sure well,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 10: just to make sure we continue to grow and get
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 10: better as a team, regardless of wood blocks in the door.
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  Speaker 4: Next.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I think that's that's great to hear.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: I think all Mariner fans are wanting you to grow
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: from where you're at last year, right, not just try
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: to stand patent. So that kind of brings me to
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: the idea of like a blueprint as much as you
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: can share with what it is that you're hoping you're
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: able to do. I mean, there is no salary cap
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: in baseball, but we all know that there's budgets that
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: you were kind of told that you got to have
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: to work with. And so I am curious, you know,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: after riding excuse me, the high of what we all
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: got to ride along with what you guys did there.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, is the is the idea to continue to
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: move forward in the way of spending or is it
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: trying to stay the same or is it trying to
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: be creative and move some things around.
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  Speaker 10: You know, we've been we've been moving forward for years.
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  Speaker 10: I think we may not move forward at a pace
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 10: that that pleases every fan or listener, but we've grown our.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: Payroll and that's impossible season it really is.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: They don't spend enough money.
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  Speaker 10: I'm guessing we're gonna come just a little shy of
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 10: the Dodgers, but you know, we'll continue to grow our payroll.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 10: It's it's what we do, and you know we've and
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 10: part of that is when you have you know, good
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 10: young players who are growing, they're in the arbitration system,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 10: you know, obviously bringing in a free agent of Josh's status,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 10: and and we plan on continuing to play in the
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 10: free agent market and fill some some voids. But you know,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 10: from a team building perspective, you know, I said at
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 10: the end of the season, are our starting point for
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 10: twenty twenty six is where we finished twenty five And
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 10: we finished twenty five with you know, the highest or
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 10: second highest payroll and the history of the franchise, depending
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 10: on where you put, you know, the last dollar, it's
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 10: it's very close.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, we are.
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  Speaker 10: Growing, we are aggressive, we are looking to get better.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 10: We'd like to add at least another bat to that lineup,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 10: and we really want to beef up the bullpen.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: And add to the middle and even the leverage.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 10: Arm if the possibility exists, and whether that's free agency, trade, whatever,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 10: we're we're just looking to add the best players we can.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: Jerry Depoto is with us to isolate a part of
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: that question and answer. I mean, you said at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the year that we're probably going to start
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: next year with a payroll similar to the one that
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: we ended with, and of course that's not written in stone.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: But when you spend eighteen and a half million on
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: one player, and you're also talking about trying to keep
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: Polanco and or Swore as as well. Boy, that money,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: that that really gets burned up rather quickly. So I
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: wanted to isolate the part of Bucky's question about whether
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: or not you feel like you might have to move
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: some money around, move a salary out in order to
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: create some of that leverage to add to the team.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 10: I mean, I guess it depends what we're adding. You know,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 10: we're always open to any type of thought, but you know,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 10: the idea of bringing the team back in some form
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 10: to what the twenty five team look like moving players
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 10: off kind of defeats that purpose. So we're very comfortable
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 10: with the level of talent that exists on our team.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 10: I think as we sit here in the middle of November,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 10: I do believe we're one of the most complete or
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 10: most talented teams in the American League. So pulling away
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 10: from that team would kind of defeat the purpose, which
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 10: is why I answered the question as I did, which
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 10: you know, market forces will have to get a little
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 10: lucky for all of that to work for us. But
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 10: you know, we were very comfortable with the depth that
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 10: we've created in our starfaring rotation. We like the way
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 10: you know, our lineup looks. We do want to continue
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 10: to provide opportunity for young players. That's a foundational part
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 10: of what we do. And we have good young players,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 10: so finding that balance. Striking that balance is important, you know,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 10: which is why a guy like Orge is such a pivotal.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: Guy in our lineup. Last year.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 10: He could do a little third, he could do some second,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 10: and he could d eight. He's even now played some
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 10: first base and the switch hitter. That versatility allows us
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 10: to continue to develop a team, and you know, going
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 10: out and finding players that can do that is paramount
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 10: for us, and we'll continue to look whether it's wor
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 10: he or somebody else.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: One of the things that I admire about how you
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: guys are trying to do it with if there is
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: some sort of a budget while you're increase in the payroll,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: and yet there still is a is a threshold probably
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: that like you said, you're going to be shy of
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers, probably the metso.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: And yet one of the things I've had what.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: You guys did with Julio, what you've done with Cal,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: getting these guys to basically you buy them out of
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: some of their arbitration years and you get some homegrown
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: talent to stick around. Are you guys working in that
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: same direction with the likes of Logan Gilbert and George Kirby, Possibly,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: because you know they're all both going to be getting
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: pay raises, even if it's just through arbitration. And yet
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: the sooner you guys can get them to kind of
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: lock up with their boy Cal and Julio and now Naylor,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: the probably the less expensive they would be versus them
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: waiting until they become free agents as well.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: And we're always open to it.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 10: The beauty of having really good players is that they
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 10: are going to get paid and if everything works out,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 10: the team will win. And you know, we've had those
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 10: discussions with a variety of our players through the years.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 10: You know, as you mentioned Cal, Julio, JP Crawford, Andre's Munoz,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 10: you know now JOSSH.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: Naylor.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 10: We're not shy about extending the players in our group.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 10: Luis Castillo got a big one a couple of years ago,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 10: and it's part of our roster building plan is to
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 10: bring players in, let them experience our market, play in
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 10: our environment, and once we get feel for how they
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 10: fit into our baseball group, and you know the twenty
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 10: five teammates, the staff. When you get a player like
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 10: josh or Cal or Julio who are fully embraced by
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 10: the fan base as well, that's when you know you
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 10: hit a homer and you know you do what you
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 10: can to get those players extended out for as long
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 10: as you can, and we'll continue to make that a
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 10: part of how we build our team.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: President of Baseball Operations for the Seattle Mariners, Jerry Depoto,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: our guests this morning. We appreciate the time. Certainly. I
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: do want to ask you because I read the name's
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: Alex Hoppy. I think that's how it's pronounced. And Robinson Ortiz.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: Those are a couple of other moves that you've made
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: here in the last week. And I know baseball people
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: that are paying attention are like, uh oh, Mariners see
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: something in some relief pitchers. Again, they're probably going to
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: turn out to be pretty good. So what can you
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: tell us about hop Bay and Ortiz and how quickly
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: they might be Mariners and not just minor leaguers.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 10: Well, I mean both have pissed at the upper levels
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 10: of the minor leagues. In Robinson's case, he had some
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 10: injury issues early on in his baseball life. Last year
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 10: was a healthy season for him. And he's got a
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 10: fastball that gets up to ninety seven ninety eight as
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 10: a lefty, has a three pitch mix, a slider and
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 10: a cutter that both kind of look like the same
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 10: pitch at times, but power stuff will sit around ninety
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 10: four and ninety five. And we feel like as a
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 10: twenty five year old with three options, it just gives
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 10: us roster depth in an area where we don't have
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 10: a ton, which is left hand bullpen. And you know,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 10: Alex Hoppey comes from Boston. Average velocity of his fastball
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 10: is near one hundred miles an hour, you know, sit
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 10: ninety eight and a half. He will touch triple digits.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 10: He's got a mid nineties cutter. He's got really I mean,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 10: it's nasty stuff. We feel like we can help him
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 10: in terms of like honing in his command, which has
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 10: been his bugaboo to this point in his career. But
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 10: a really stuffy twenty six year old righty who we
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 10: feel like has an opportunity to pitch in the big
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 10: league next year. And these are like classic you know,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 10: recent vintage Mariner acquisitions in November, and then some of
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 10: them turn out to be Gave Spires and Matte Brass's,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 10: you know, and you know, we're hopeful about the talent
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 10: that we're getting.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: With these two guys.
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  Speaker 2: Jerry, I mean to be sitting where you're at. You
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: had a team that very easily, very well could have
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: hoisted a World Series trophy this year, and yet the
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: nice thing is you also still have one of the
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: best farm systems. Is there anyone in particular or maybe
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: a couple guys that Mariner fans should be super excited
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: about that you're expecting to be contributors in twenty twenty six.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: As far as prospects go.
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  Speaker 10: You know, I think widely regarded as our top prospect
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 10: is Colt Emerson and finished last year in Tacoma at
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 10: the very end of the season, had a fabulous years.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: He's just twenty years.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 10: Old and will play virtually all of next year at twenty.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 10: He's a special player we feel like has a chance
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 10: to be foundational part of what we do, and I
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 10: would expect that whether it's on opening Day or at
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 10: some point next season.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: He is a part of our mix which is why.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 10: You know you provide opportunity for those young players or
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 10: avenues for them to get those opportunities, and you know
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 10: Colt will be one of those players. There are other
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 10: players I'm excited about who may not show up in
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 10: the big leagues but are going to be pretty close.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 10: The guy like Kate Anderson, who was the third pick
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 10: in last year's draft. We've not seen him pitch a
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 10: professional inning yet, so we're all eagerly anticipating seeing him
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 10: in the spring and watching his Mariner debut of sorts.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 10: I would love to see what kind of progress we
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 10: get from Jerangelo Sandre, who ended last year in Double A. Obviously,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 10: the switch pitch makes him famous, but what comes out
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 10: of his hand, especially as a right hand or, is
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 10: pretty special, and I think it's reasonable to believe that
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 10: he could show up as a contributor in the big
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 10: league next year. Obviously, some guys that touched the show
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 10: for us last year, like Cole Young and Ben Williamson
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 10: and Logan Evans, we feel like they will continue to
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 10: play a role in what we do, and we do
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 10: have a fun system to watch. It's whether it's it's
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 10: the kids that are going to start in a Ball
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 10: and Everett were the kids that are going to start
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 10: in Tacoma.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: I think no matter what level you go.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 10: With our system, you're going to find a player who
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 10: has a chance to play in All Star Games, which
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 10: is exciting.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: In our last thirty seconds, I just want to say,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: you know, congratulations. I mean, I know that this is
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: a fan base here in Seattle and the media that
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: just wants to get to the World Series and maybe
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: didn't appreciate always exactly what it was that you were
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: building here. And then it's nice to see you get
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: some accolades, get some flowers here this season, and to
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: ride some positive moments into the off season. I think
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: it's well overdue, and I think that you've certainly, along
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: with Justin and your entire staff, have earned a little
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: bit of praise heading into the offseason. So congratulations on
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: a great year and let's just keep moving it forward.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 10: I appreciate that, guys. Sometimes I guess sometimes development or
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 10: evolution isn't linear, and you know, you fall down, you
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 10: get back up, you pick yourself up, and we're in
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 10: a good place organizationally, and I'm really looking forward.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: To where we go from here.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 8: Jerry.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: Appreciate you guys all right.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Jerry Depoto, president of baseball operations for the Seattle Mariners,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: joining us here this morning for a lengthy conversation about
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: the MS off season. Coming up next, Al Kaneski will
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