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The Occult Rejects LIVE- The Serpent and The Rainbow · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see somethings are going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: What What's going to happen?
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  Speaker 1: I think.
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  Speaker 2: What help? Welcome to the Occult Rejects this episode. We
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  Speaker 2: got a bunch of us here tonight and we've got
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  Speaker 2: a special guest joining us. Couldn't be happier to have
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  Speaker 2: Annie with us again. If you have not seen him before,
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  Speaker 2: he has been on the show in the past, and
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  Speaker 2: I definitely suggest to go back and check that episode out.
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  Speaker 2: Guys were cooking with gas. Yeah, I guess, and if
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  Speaker 2: you know, I guess. We'll just start with Annie now too.
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  Speaker 2: As before, we introduce everybody Annie, what is going on? Sir?
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  Speaker 2: And please let everybody know what is up and where
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  Speaker 2: they can find all your amazing work.
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  Speaker 1: What's happening? Is great to be back on the Cold Rejects. Man.
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  Speaker 1: I had a blast last time. My audience really enjoyed
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  Speaker 1: what we did last time, and I think this one
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  Speaker 1: should be packed with even more information. You guys can
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  Speaker 1: follow me at Annie Osarru on YouTube. I also own
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  Speaker 1: the Spiritual Shade Room on Instagram and most of my
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  Speaker 1: content is on Patreon dot com, slash th Underscore, Spiritual
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  Speaker 1: Shade Room, The True Cult newspaper.
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  Speaker 2: That's what's up. Thank you very much, man, and I
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  Speaker 2: really appreciate you joining us. And I know you have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of knowledge on this subject, so I really
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  Speaker 2: appreciate you helping us out here. And then we got
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  Speaker 2: my man Jules. What is going on?
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  Speaker 1: Sir?
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  Speaker 2: How are you? But it's been a minute.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, what's going on? Everybody?
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  Speaker 4: Nick, Annie Ethan, Robbie Headless. It's good to see you guys.
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  Speaker 4: I hope y'all had a good week. What's going on
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  Speaker 4: to everyone in the chat? Good to see everyone. I'm Jewles,
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  Speaker 4: host of the Great Pill Podcast The Mississippi Mystic. If
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  Speaker 4: you've been here before then you probably know who I am.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, man, ready to get into it. I haven't
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  Speaker 4: seen this movie since I was a kid, so I
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  Speaker 4: had to do some homework and catch up. But it's
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  Speaker 4: definitely worth it. We watched it on Discord a couple
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  Speaker 4: of nights ago. But yeah, if y'all want to follow me,
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  Speaker 4: We got a bunch of good shit popping over there.
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  Speaker 4: Esoteric book review in the morning. The Hierarchies of Elves, fawns,
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  Speaker 4: and fay so should be a good, a fun book
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  Speaker 4: for the whole family.
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  Speaker 3: Happy to be here, Happy.
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  Speaker 1: To be here.
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  Speaker 2: I'm happy to have you here, sir. Thank you very
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  Speaker 2: much for making it. Jewels and my man, Ethan Indigo.
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  Speaker 2: What is going on, sir?
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  Speaker 5: Great to have you here, Peace, Honored to be here
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  Speaker 5: with everybody, appreciating Nick putting this together. I'm excited for this.
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  Speaker 5: It's got so much interesting symbology to explore. I'm easy
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  Speaker 5: to find on all the social media. I'm a writer
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  Speaker 5: frequently and observer of our modern times. Easy to find
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  Speaker 5: online and I appreciate communication, appreciate you guys.
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  Speaker 2: So definitely check out Ethan Indego. He's got tons of books,
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  Speaker 2: so definitely go check those out. And we got the
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  Speaker 2: man himself, the storyteller, Robbie Marks. What is going on?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much for making it tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, what's up everybody? Yeah, thanks for having me on, Nick, everybody,
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  Speaker 3: it's good to see you. It's good to meet you, Hanny.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, if anybody wants to check out my stuff,
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  Speaker 3: my miscellaneous podcast, I met a mind cast, as well
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  Speaker 3: as all my social media et cetera, et cetera. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this is gonna be a fun one. This book was well,
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  Speaker 3: initially I saw this movie as a child, and then
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  Speaker 3: when I was in my mid teens, I picked up
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  Speaker 3: the book and this was I was re Carls Castaneda,
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  Speaker 3: and I was getting into a lot of this mysticism.
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  Speaker 3: And this has always been, you know, my thirty thirty
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  Speaker 3: five years of heavy reading, It's been one of my
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  Speaker 3: favorite books.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, listen, thank you, and I appreciate you joining
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  Speaker 2: us man because again, you even have a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: stuff that I don't know about that you can bring
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  Speaker 2: to the table with this, and I appreciate you coming.
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  Speaker 2: And then, last but not least, my boy Headless Giant,
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  Speaker 2: What is going on? Sir? How are you?
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  Speaker 6: How you doing?
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  Speaker 7: I love the topic. You can find me on YouTube
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  Speaker 7: and on X. You can send me any sort of
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  Speaker 7: strange experiences you've had, especially with voodoo to Headless Giant
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  Speaker 7: podcasts at gmail dot com and we read those on Thursdays.
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  Speaker 7: I've also got Alchemy Mondays, so check out that show
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  Speaker 7: as well. And I've got another show coming up with
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  Speaker 7: Nick All about seven seven seven. So if you know
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  Speaker 7: that book and you know how dense it is, it's
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  Speaker 7: going to be taking a while, it's gonna be a
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  Speaker 7: lot of fun. And also on Sunday, I've got the
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  Speaker 7: trialogue with Ethan and Ricardo, so definitely come check that out.
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  Speaker 7: We're cooking the gas on their sholves.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely check yeah, definitely check out the trialogue and sending
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  Speaker 2: those emails, and for sure we're going to start covering uh,
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  Speaker 2: seven seven seven next week should be very interesting. I'm
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  Speaker 2: hoping maybe depending we might be able at least get
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  Speaker 2: up to the Jamachi or at least get into Jamachia.
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  Speaker 2: It's like a couple of pages a thing for an introduction,
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  Speaker 2: but uh, I think the Jamachia chapter in the beginning
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  Speaker 2: is so so fucking important. So uh really looking forward
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  Speaker 2: to that. And uh did you even notice Headless they're
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  Speaker 2: already catching heat on Twitter from that fucking tweet, people
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  Speaker 2: literally tagging somebody on there to like fucking I'm like, really, like, oh.
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  Speaker 7: God, once once you say Crowley on there and you
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  Speaker 7: show that book off, people just go nuts.
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  Speaker 3: Have no idea what's circumcision?
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  Speaker 2: Yeahs fucking crazy, but uh yeah, but yeah, and thank
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  Speaker 2: you everybody for making it on tonight. I think for now,
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  Speaker 2: uh just still let the listeners know. Obviously it's a
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  Speaker 2: Serpent in the Rainbow that we're covering. I didn't say
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  Speaker 2: that in the beginning, but I mean everybody else already
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  Speaker 2: mentioned it. I am going to. I got like a
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  Speaker 2: page of notes that I'm just gonna read that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of some basic background stuff about the movie, and then
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  Speaker 2: I would like to go into the actual Serpent in
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  Speaker 2: the Rainbow symbolism, which Annie knows a lot about. And
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  Speaker 2: then after that, if anybody of us wanted to talk
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  Speaker 2: about any rainbows and serpent symbolism otherwise, we can. And
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  Speaker 2: then we will move into the actual story behind the
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  Speaker 2: movie with Robbie and Annie, and then we'll get into
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  Speaker 2: the movie after that. So that's kind of the structure
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  Speaker 2: I'm shooting for, so uh yeah, but all right, so
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  Speaker 2: I will get it started. Serpent in the Rainbow. In
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  Speaker 2: case people don't know the Serpent in the Rainbow, it's
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  Speaker 2: a movie from Wes Craven and it's a horror thriller
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  Speaker 2: loosely based on the way Davis's real life research in Haiti,
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  Speaker 2: Davis investigated Haitian voodoo and claims of zombification, notably the
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  Speaker 2: case of I can't pronounce this guy's name, but there's
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  Speaker 2: a guy who was buried alive and later revived. In
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  Speaker 2: his nineteen eighty five book The Serpent in the Rainbow,
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  Speaker 2: Davis describes how he found tetro detoxin, if I'm saying
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  Speaker 2: that correctly, a pufferfish poison, and psychoactive plants in traditional
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  Speaker 2: zombie powders, and argued that a combination of toxin llucinogen
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  Speaker 2: like the torah, and cultural belief could induce a death
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  Speaker 2: like coma. The film was made with Davis's cooperation. He
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  Speaker 2: even served as a technical advisor on set, but Craving
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  Speaker 2: took considerable dramatic license, usually for a horror film. It's
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  Speaker 2: unusual for a horror film, but this one supposedly was
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  Speaker 2: shot on real locations. Universal hired Haitian crews and local
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  Speaker 2: extras in Haiti for it, and even did film some
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  Speaker 2: parts in Boston, which you kind of see that at
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  Speaker 2: the beginning. You'll see that in Boston way. Davis himself
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  Speaker 2: traveled there, traveled with the crew and advised on Haitian settings.
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  Speaker 2: What else The movie was shot also in the Caribbean.
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  Speaker 2: The crew began in Haiti, but as it's been said,
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  Speaker 2: local government informed the cast and crew that they could
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  Speaker 2: not guarantee their safety anymore because of political strife, so
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  Speaker 2: the production was then moved to Santo Domingo in the
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  Speaker 2: Dominican Republic to finish filming. Some just interesting things with
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  Speaker 2: the production. Shooting in Haiti again proved to be difficult.
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  Speaker 2: Craven's crew suffered from contaminated food and water, and even
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  Speaker 2: film equipment was damaged by sewage leaks on location. They
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  Speaker 2: also had to hire a local militia at one point
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  Speaker 2: for protection. There was a journalist to who later reported
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  Speaker 2: after the fact that the first night in Haiti, the
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  Speaker 2: crew was blessed in a real deal ceremony by voodoo
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  Speaker 2: priests and a ritual which some said was done for protection.
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  Speaker 2: Despite these precautions, and I tried to look up any
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  Speaker 2: more information on this, I mean, who knows if it's
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  Speaker 2: true or not. This is where I could find. Despite
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  Speaker 2: the precautions, though that with the Despite all that, the
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  Speaker 2: troubleshoots still sore. At least supposedly they say they think
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  Speaker 2: one person got possessed on set, and there was even
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  Speaker 2: a small riot among onlookers during the movie at one point,
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  Speaker 2: which they do chalk up to like wondering if they
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  Speaker 2: had anything to do with this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: But it's like one of those cursed movies or something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but that was just like some of the
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  Speaker 2: some of the basic stat tests. Again, like it was
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  Speaker 2: one page of notes, so that I just wanted to
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  Speaker 2: read that off and kind of get that off. But
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  Speaker 2: uh yeah, so uh yeah, I guess, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: then the whole thing with again, I would like to
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  Speaker 2: get annie if you don't mind the whole serpent in
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  Speaker 2: the rainbow, I find that to be very deeply occulted
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  Speaker 2: just in general, that stuff. I mean, I I talk
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  Speaker 2: about seeing rainbow styled stuff when I have my experiences,
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  Speaker 2: and just you know, the serpent is just such a
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  Speaker 2: deeply occulted symbol.
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  Speaker 3: I've been. I've seen some sort of rainbow ara on psilocybin.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but uh, if you don't mind, if you
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  Speaker 2: could take it away on that one.
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  Speaker 1: Little colladio scope of colors, These colors are like the
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  Speaker 1: waveforms of the quanta. It's a refraction of the quanta
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  Speaker 1: of the spirit and light, and voodoo is all about
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  Speaker 1: evoking the spirit. Voodoo literally means spirit of God. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of people associate voodoo was something satanic. There is
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  Speaker 1: a dark side or an underworld to a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things and a lot of spiritual systems, especially with African
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  Speaker 1: spiritual systems. They stripped the underworld away for specific reasons
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  Speaker 1: because of the power and the ability behind that type
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  Speaker 1: of magic and spirituality. Voodoo is something that kept the
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  Speaker 1: underworld very much intact. And looking at the movie, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't get to watch this movie when I was a
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  Speaker 1: child like you guys. Actually watched it this morning because
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  Speaker 1: it was a misinterpretation that I was talking about of
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  Speaker 1: the Serpent and the Sky John Anthony West. But I
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  Speaker 1: went back and followed the Nick's email and it said
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  Speaker 1: the Serpent and the Rainbow. I said, hold on, let
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  Speaker 1: me look up this book and movie, and I said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I need to watch this real quick before I'm unprepared
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  Speaker 1: for today. And when I watched it, I was blown
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  Speaker 1: away because I do research a lot, and I know
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  Speaker 1: a lot about different spiritual systems of indigenous spiritual systems,
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  Speaker 1: so watching it, I'm very much aware of them. In
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  Speaker 1: the book car basically basically the White magician and voodoo
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  Speaker 1: and the Black Magician and voodoo. And there's other things
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  Speaker 1: in EPI which is more like Nigerian West African magic,
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  Speaker 1: and there's other things pertaining here in America to hoodism.
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  Speaker 1: But it's very different systems. Every system is very very different.
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  Speaker 1: Watching this movie, I can almost do a full week
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  Speaker 1: breaking this stuff down. I saw a lot of astrology.
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  Speaker 1: The car represented was representative, a lot of Saturn restricting. Uh. Dennis,
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  Speaker 1: the bill bill Puller, I think it's that he was
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  Speaker 1: representative of Mercury for sure.
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  Speaker 2: For sure, I thought that, yeah he was.
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  Speaker 1: He was, Yeah, he was traveling, he was traveling, and
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  Speaker 1: he remembered he tricked the one of the the guy
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  Speaker 1: who made the zombiees. Yeah, yeah, but as Mercury. And
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  Speaker 1: the woman, the doctor, the Haitian doctor was Venus because
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  Speaker 1: she was possessed with Zuli, which is a very powerful
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  Speaker 1: vote ol deity in the system. Almost equivalent. They said
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  Speaker 1: it was equivalent to the version Mary, but it's equivalent
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  Speaker 1: to yemen Ya or O'shoon and the e FI system,
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  Speaker 1: and they very highly regard this goddess. I also saw
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  Speaker 1: remnants of Satissa Muette Lostisa Muet for Santaia. When you
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  Speaker 1: saw the wedded corpse that they'd extracted the first zombie
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  Speaker 1: toxin from that was Sentisa Muet. But that really saved
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  Speaker 1: his ass. We got to get into that later on
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  Speaker 1: because if she hadn't been a powerful witch and if
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  Speaker 1: he hadn't captured her soul, she wanted to seek vengeance
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  Speaker 1: on the bookar to help him out in the end,
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  Speaker 1: which was very beneficial to Bill Pullman's character in the movie.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and interesting you were saying in regard to Saturn
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  Speaker 3: when they get within the book, when they get into
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  Speaker 3: the temple structure, they go in at one point and
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  Speaker 3: hanging on the wall from two chains is a black
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  Speaker 3: cube that's part of the the inner like ritual system.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, the black Cube and Saturn directly link there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it gets into a lot of definitely a lot of astrological,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of earth medicine, and just the links between
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  Speaker 3: Haiti and Africa as far as carrying over some of
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  Speaker 3: that mystical the aspect and bringing it into that the
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  Speaker 3: you know, the judgment factor of basically you know, garnering
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  Speaker 3: the society through the aspect of this this inherent threat
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  Speaker 3: of zombiism.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I also looked at it. There's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things pertaining in this movie to m k ul
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  Speaker 1: truck or how to create a moon child surrogate, because
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  Speaker 1: I'm big and understanding what Crawley was getting at with
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  Speaker 1: this moon child thing. This moon child thing is beyond
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  Speaker 1: what Jack Parsons was doing with Marjorie Cameron, you know,
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  Speaker 1: trying to birth the Satanic seed, because we understand that
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  Speaker 1: in the Gnostic text there is portions of shards of
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  Speaker 1: souls down here that are remnants of the demiurge or
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  Speaker 1: the counterfeit spirit and a Nagamadi library. But these are
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  Speaker 1: some of the people that's using this dark system of magic,
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  Speaker 1: like you see this bkor Do and this this movie.
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  Speaker 1: They're working for a side of the polarity for certain
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  Speaker 1: reasons for the matrix, to keep the matrix and the
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  Speaker 1: energy here be extracted by these other entities, and I
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  Speaker 1: felt like he was working for that side. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they got Dumbala is representative of the serpent. The dumb
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  Speaker 1: Bala is the serpent god and Hudu and high reverence
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  Speaker 1: to to dn Bala invoking him. It's a form of
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  Speaker 1: the Kundalini energy and the then the Kundalini energy is
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  Speaker 1: is high charging plos of physics inside of the body
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  Speaker 1: is pertaining the cold fusion. Even when they say you
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  Speaker 1: catch the Holy ghost, you feel that that that chill
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  Speaker 1: or that prisons over you, is that same vodau dom
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  Speaker 1: Bala serpent uh extraction of of energy, that charge implodes
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  Speaker 1: within you when you reach the somebody, the the the
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  Speaker 1: Sahasara crown chakra. That energy has to move up like
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  Speaker 1: the tower of Babbylon. It has to reach up here
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  Speaker 1: and it absolves everything.
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  Speaker 7: That's where the serpent reaches the rainbows right there at.
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  Speaker 3: The man well put.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the dambala is that also considered to be associated
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  Speaker 2: with the creation or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe yes, uh questa quanto you got another serpent god? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because it's Cocacon. That's actually honestly the grand dragon dragon.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, man, all the South American serpent deities.
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  Speaker 4: I think he got it's a Mana. I think is
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  Speaker 4: another one. Cucko con uh Quetzalkuado.
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  Speaker 3: And his wife. I forgot her. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: In the the have.
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  Speaker 7: You ever seen Washington's family crest? It's a thirteen in
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  Speaker 7: Mayan numerals no ship Yeah yeah, okay, maybe the canis yeah,
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  Speaker 7: death and.
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  Speaker 3: Rebirth would makes sense.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, well he's at the top of the you know,
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  Speaker 4: capital doom, Yeah, hanging out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Well, now what I think is interesting is
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  Speaker 3: when you get into this whole uh, this whole idea
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  Speaker 3: of the zombie or the zombie, there's different pronunciations, it's argued,
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  Speaker 3: but nonetheless there's the physical zombie and then there's the
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  Speaker 3: astral zombie. And it's this bookar that you know you
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  Speaker 3: have that basically is the one that will work to capture.
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  Speaker 3: Like when they when they pull them out of the grave,
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  Speaker 3: they generally have a tendency to beat them and put
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  Speaker 3: them So we're here, we're getting into trauma based mind control.
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  Speaker 3: They're putting them under under this highly hallucinogenic They literally
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  Speaker 3: while they're being zombified, they can sense and see and
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  Speaker 3: feel everything that's going on around them. They're just in
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  Speaker 3: a state of paralytic uh you know analysis. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but this can happen with like in Japan, you know
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  Speaker 3: they say that the puffer is it's the it's you know,
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  Speaker 3: the line between eating food and taking drugs because the
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  Speaker 3: potential of slipping into this state. But nonetheless, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they would bury you and then depending on the amount
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  Speaker 3: of time you're in the coffin before you start to
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  Speaker 3: get hit with oxygen deprivation, they would pull you up
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  Speaker 3: and then beat you, which you know trauma or trauma,
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  Speaker 3: and then they would take you and they would feed you.
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  Speaker 3: After that, they would take this zombie cucumber and that
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  Speaker 3: has batura in it and basically mix that up and
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  Speaker 3: keep you in a dream like state, whereas then they
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  Speaker 3: would capture the astral zombie and in case it in
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  Speaker 3: a jar like Solomon with his uh miscellaneous you know,
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  Speaker 3: demon demonic forces he was summoning up to.
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  Speaker 7: Big Tom Martin is an influence on voodoo as well.
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: So you've got all these keys of salvage. I put
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: a yeah, yeah, I put a clip of the In
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: Search of episode with Leonard Nimoy where they actually sent
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: a camber team over to Haiti in the nineteen seventies
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: to film these rituals. And so you can see when
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: he's when he's drawing out the symbols on the ground,
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: that's where they have to put the drums so that
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: they can connect to the spirits.
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: Right, So all of this stuff about these sigils on
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: the floor.
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: I think, you know, that's a big crossover between Martinism
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: and voodoo, and we see a lot of Voodoo initiates
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: also being Martinist, which is also very much a you know, freemasoniconic.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and you had that. You have the interaction
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: here in the play between the French colony and the
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: surviving class that overthrew and basically took the nation state
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: on themselves.
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: And this is also I was going to bring up
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: Columbus and Hispaniola. Right, So this is the very first
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: spot where European contact is and this is where they
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: have the Voodoo rituals and the Martinism, but all the
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: rest of this old world occult stuff now mixing in
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: with New World civilization.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: M and Haiti is a very magical Charles Island. They
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: don't know that there's this rare asteroid beneath Haley Haiti
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: that they get the substance mineral called iridium, which is
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: almost like the vibranium and black panther or some shit.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: What I heard is a very very resourceful material and
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: it's it's rare, you know, and it's primarily in Haiti
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: and they begin extracting that from out of there. So
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: it's a reason why they stated it's one of the
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: most porshe Coorse countries in the world because it's like
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: we got to suppress this magical energy over there, because
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: it's like a piece of Atlantis probably up on these
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: these people, these indigenous people over there. And not only that,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: there's this resource that we need to go in and
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: and get that and make materials out of it.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: And that's why it's preoccupied by our by our well
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: some of our government. Right, it has been in the past,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: willing child child trafficking rings and all.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, Clinton, his dark daughter, he used to go.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Clinton's daughter Chelsea used to go to Haiti and used
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: to go to another African uh East African female tribe
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: where they sever the the clitterists. Yeah, this is some
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: secret stuff. And they used to send her there every
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: summer on herd to learn the mysteries of the mambos
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: of the witches over there. Go ahead, I'm sorry, Robbie,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: So get this.
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: Guess what Iridium is named after? Good Iris, the Greek
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: goddess of the rainbow.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Interesting thing. Interesting, I've got the full legend of the
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: rainbow and the serpent. Here. If you want me to,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: I can read it, it says. In the beginning, it
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: is said there was only the great serpent, whose seven
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: thousand coils lay beneath the earth, holding it in place
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: that it might not fall into the abysmal sea. In time,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: the serpent began to move, unleashing its undulating flesh, which
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: rose slowly into the great spiral that enveloped the universe.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: In the heavens. It released stars and all that the
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: celestial bodies on Earth, and it brought forth creation, winding
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: its way through the molten slopes to carved rivers, which,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: like veins, became the channels through which flowed the essence
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: of all life. In the searing heat, it forged metals
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: rising against the sky. It cast lightning bolts to the
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: earth and gave birth to the sacred stones. Then it
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: lay along the path of the sun and partook of
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: its nature. With its layered skin. The serpent retained the
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: spring of eternal life, and from the zenith it let
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: go the waters that filled the rivers upon which the
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: people would nurse. As the water struck the earth, the
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: rainbow rose, and the serpent took her as his wife.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Their love entwined them in a cosmic helix that arched
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: across the heavens. In time, their fusion gave birth to
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: the spirit that animates blood. Women learned to filter this
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: divine substance through their breasts to produce milk, just as
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: men passed it through their testes to create semen. The
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: serpent and the rainbow instruct women to remember these blessings
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: once each month, and they taught men to damn the
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: flow so that the belly might swell and bring forth
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: new life. Then as a final gift, they taught the
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: people to partake of the blood as a sacrament that
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: they might become the spirit and embrace the wisdom of
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: the serpent.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: You know what's crazy about that, it's real Lovecraftian because
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Naga gates around the planet, like the Japanese call it
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: the Mapo Ruigan, where there's the undulations of the telluric energy,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: the cathonic energy. That stuff under the planet really influences
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: the consciousness and the subconsciousness of each continent. So they
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: tapped into these things. And when you were describing the coiling,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: it is describing a centripetal consciousness almost to speak of Daya,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: and it's comparative to the Titans and the Greek mythology
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: that were buried on the Tartarus. That serpentine energy was
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: called Typhon, which was the most powerful monster all the
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: fucking guys. They say when it's Typhon and they had
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: like Cyrus, they want to fuck with this Typhon and
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Typhon when it rise up. Have you guys seen the
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: New Blood of Zeus series a little bit A couple
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: you watch that ship man. Typhon is badass in that series.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: Is that Titan again?
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: It's the title, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: Well I thought it was.
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: I thought it was really interesting because in the in
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: the movie, they show that waterfall, right that waterfall scene,
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: that's the real waterfall where they said that the serpent
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: and the rainbow come together in Haiti. So that's like
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: one of the holiest sights in all of Haiti, and
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: they're filming right there in that movie, so really interesting.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: That's also that it you know, when the serpent met
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: the rainbow, they essentially intertwined with one another, creating that
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: divine helix that is manifest creation of life itself, the
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: DNA exactly with the with the light, the rainbow light
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: and the serpent energy, the serpentine you know, from Kundalini
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: to the animating force, you know kind of all yeah.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: You know, it kind of reminds me of you know,
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you know about the by Frost
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: and all the Norse realm you know, uh, the rainbow
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: bridge that the Ira sil right wrapped up and I
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: just had stein on last Saturday, maybe two Saturdays.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: It was last Saturday for.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Banger episode guys, check go check that out if you haven't.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: He talked about the ice here, the Vanyar, the nine realms. Uh,
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: you know he is a.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Nordic pagan, so and uh you know so it uh,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: I know kind of talked.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Did he talk about order the serpent.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: That at the very bottom and uh what and something
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: about something about that.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Robbie just said, each.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Of these realms, you know each uh there's the three
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: and then each hold three and each one has a
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: will in it that kind of you know you you
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: were talking about the water, the spiritual water that powers
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: uh these certain realms and uh, yeah, I don't know.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: It's this plasma baby.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Some similarities.
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: Absolutely if you think about the water spray, it's full
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: of electrolyzed plasma and that's what's creating that rainbow effect.
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: So there's a real tie there. I was going to
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: bring up the the Iris, which is the goddess of
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: the rainbow. She's considered to be a heavenly messenger, right,
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: and so this heavenly messenger is bringing all of these
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: different messages from the immortal realm. This is where we
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: get our term epiphany. Epiphany means the divine appearance of.
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: These these gods.
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: So we think of it as like just an idea
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: that pops into your head or whatever, but it was
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: exalted as like theophony or epiphany, which is the divine
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: appearance of these different gods and goddesses. And what you
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: see with these voodoo ceremonies is that's the appearance of
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: these gods and goddesses through the practitioners of this.
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: Uh these ceremonies.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's that's great research there.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: So now, during the uprising in Haiti against the French,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: there was a case where there was a manifestation of
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: a divine mother that came in as a white, blue
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: burning light and she was on top of the palm
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: tree and they the French troops started shooting at it,
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: and it would jump from tree to tree, and Napoleon
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: ended up ordering that all the palm trees be cut
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: down because of this event. And you know, you just
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: see these successive things is popping up where they tried
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: to stop this. But you gotta figure these these people
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: that they were bringing in from Africa, they were astute,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: learned in a lot of cases from the Arabs, and
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: they knew math, and they were of war cultures, and
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: they had this sacred ancient, you know, spirit magic of
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: the plants. And it was one of the one of
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: the workers in one of the sugar mills where they
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: were crushing the cane, he got his arm caught in it,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: and they were talking about the blood mixed with the
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: sugar cane water, just as a analogous to the African
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: blood mixing with the French blood and the you know,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: and essentially he had to cut his arm off, and
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: all the locals said that he was like immortal and
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: of the gods. And because he couldn't work in the
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: fields anymore, they made him a shepherd in the hill.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: So he was going up into the hills and this
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: is where all of the rebel slaves would basically run away.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: So there's that there's like tens of thousands of runaways,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: which they called maroon. The French called the maroons. And
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: essentially this guy, they said, he went up in the
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: hills and he learned the old magic from like listening
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: to the ancestors and finding new plants to substitute the
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: old plants, and that he basically went to the caves
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: and learned to learn from the old ones that quote
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: unquote made the earth shudder. So this was the beginning
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: of the voodown tradition in the creation of these systems
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: in order to basically regulate almost on a guerrilla warfare
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: style mechanism, to go against what the Spanish had done
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: to them, what the French were doing to them. Even
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: was Rushiamboo who ended up helping George Washington in the
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Revolutionary War. Before he came to America, he stopped in
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Haiti to try to, you know, put down this this
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: uprising and basically just atrocities, I mean atrocities. There's some
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: of the stuff that they were doing to these individuals.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: It's it's a horror show.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: So they got a form of the berserker, the Nordic berserker,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: what they call it, something with the berserker mind or
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: frenzy that.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: They gonz Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: They got a similar form of that. And that's the
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: thing about it, like there's a lot of intricacy. You
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: talk about the Maroons that they were the rebels, right
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: and even over here we had Maroons in America and
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: the Great Dismal Swamp here, and they knew a lot
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: of mysteries of the plants and talking to That's why
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Hi John the Conqueror became the central Hoodoo plant over here.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: And they said the ancestors was literally they could hear
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: them in the in the cotton fields. Not only that,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: George Washing Carver, he said he could speak the plants.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: You know, the reason why we call like factories plants
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: is because of George Washington Carver could speak to plants,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: you know, the peanut man. He could hear the plants.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: And for he was working for Ford and he provided
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: a a a new type of fuel that was called, uh,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: it was called kim something something with MS. I can't
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: remember the term for it. You guys can look it up.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: But he created his new but it's based off plants.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: It was a brand, brand new fuel substance based on
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: plants that Ford was gonna use. But something happened with that,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: but they started to call those factories when it produce
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: the fuels after after the plants.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Right, it was initially himp that Ford was developing to
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: run on hemp oil, and it was an adjustable spark
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: and flow and it could literally burn like heavy hemp
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: oil or it could burn like high octane like moonshine.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: So it literally you just adjust the airflow and the spark,
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: And then the alcohol too, by the way, right as
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: far as.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: The moonshine, yeah, yeah, But then it was when Rockefeller
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: basically was dumping all the volatiles off the top of
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: the whale oil in the rivers and the rivers were
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: lighting on fire, that they had to do something with
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: this byproduct just before the Environmental Protection Agency. But nonetheless,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: you know, the Rockefellers and four got together and this
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: merger basically created the current fuel industry that we're under.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Now it's just a byproduct that they would have to
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: pay to dispose of otherwise.
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, we're talking about the spirits and the plants,
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: I mean, And this movie revolves around this idea of
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: shamonic experiences, right, and so he's he's started out with
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: this shamanic experience down in the Amazon, and all of
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: that comes from talking to these spirits of the plant.
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: And basically in the uprising, they had these type of zombies,
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: I guess you could call them men in chains. Could
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: take down three or four dudes with rifles. And these
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: are not small rounds that they're being fired at, like
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: they're equivalent to like the size of fifty caliber rounds today.
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: Like they had to stop using those those big old
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: slugs because it would just maim the hell out of
• 35:36
  Speaker 7: people once he got hit by them, and they wanted
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: to go for more of a you know, a wound
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: instead of a maid. And so these are huge, you know,
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: rounds that are being fired at them, and they don't stop,
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: they don't stop fighting until they.
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: Run out of blood.
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: So these people are you know, this is what the
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: French are saying, and who knows, they might be exaggerating
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: because it was you know, them who fled the island
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: from all of these voodoo priests that were putting spells
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: on people and causing them to be like Superman. So
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: you've got this aspect there of like you know, superhuman
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: abilities being granted to people, or maybe they're being ridden
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: by some of these Lowa as they're fighting in battle.
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: So there is that aspect of the berserker as well.
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: So you've got you know, the bear zerker.
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: These are the.
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: Norsemen who are overcome by the spirit of the Bear
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: as they go into battle and they're just ripping people apart,
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: you know. So there's a heavy aspect of being ridden
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: by these spirits and performance in battle as well, which
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: makes me think of Blackbeard because Blackbeard was supposedly shot
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: too the whole bunch of these rounds, and he doesn't
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: go down until he runs out of blood completely, you know.
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: So I think there's a lot of this stuff being
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: practiced all over the New World, and you know, we
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: get the flavor of it from the Haitian Revolution, but
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: I think there are other times that they're using it too,
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: Like you were talking about with the KKK two Nights
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: of the Golden Circle. Yeah, these were these were people
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: who are who are trying to absorb as much of
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: this magical information as possible all around the area so.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Well, and they were out of Cuba specifically, and they
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: had this Golden Circle that encompassed part of South America
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: and part of North America that they thought that slavery
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: should subside within this region. So when you get those
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: early ties with the KKK, you know an Albert Pike
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: which Albert Pike Statue in Washington, d C. They just
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: put back up just like a couple of weeks ago.
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: You know, No, one can't stay out for log can't it.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: No, it's the thirty three degree Scottish Wright. You know
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Red Lodge.
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: Judiciary Square, right, That's that's like one of the you
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: know judiciary squares where everything is supposed to be decided.
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: You know, this is the kine Knight Phoenatian judge that
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: is supposed to be presiding over the rest of the world.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: So well, speaking of of freemasony and the secret societies
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: and the movie the Actual there's there's literal Haitian or
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: voodoo or magical secret societies when it comes to these people.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: And the people that they were referring to were called
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: the Bazogo or the sump Well Society. And from what
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I understand that they were like a night guard. So
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: when you were saying with the zombification, they would punish
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: certain people in the community that were acting out, and
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: they would make a vote at night. They had these soldiers,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: what was the name of the soldiers. They called it
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: the night ritual trial, the Reseemblie new inuit Uh. These
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: members were barefoot and they wore these masks called Shaaloska masks,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: and they emphasized this ruthless law over the citizens there
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: with spiritual terror. So what they would do if you
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: act out, they will vote whether you would become a
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: zombie or you would just get whipped or some ship
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: like that. And the Bizongo pretty much controlled all of
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: the rural areas for a long period of time and
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: people were terrified of them. That's who the bokar is
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: in the rainbow and the serpent in the rainbow. They're
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: reenacting who the Bizogo is in Haiti and this particular
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: secret society hold they held mysteries about these fiveo psychedelic
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: plants and they merged the magic. They merged the science
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: of biophysiology, taking bone, grinded up bones.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: And the mixing skulls and skulls.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: It's very important the skull because there's resin in the
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: skull from the brain and that resin.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it had to be buried for at least three
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: months before they would dig it up to grind it
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: up to put it in number three.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: There you go, and that resin comes to medulla oblata.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: That's why in the Egyptian stella. I was doing a
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: lecture the other day when they show Harper Crops, the
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: god of silence, standing on the stella, and they had
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Best right behind him, the big beast. This is where
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: the beast comes from. And when they say Satan, get
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: behind you, they're talking about the cacadamas. Yeah, the medulla
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: oblata is the satan because it produces this black resin.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: It extreaks from your brain and it's in the back.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: And this is why the collective a lot of the
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: portion of the consciousness when they're studying the brain comes
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: from there to the amygdala, to the hippocampus down into
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: the pineal and and that's the resin that you see
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: in skulls when they begin to decay and everything that's
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: that Medulla oblong good are producing that black resin substance.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: So they grind that up and like what Robbie says,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: they create this psychic double and they enslave the psychic
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: double it's a form of the moon child, and they
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: put it in these vases, the mason jars, you know,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: and they're they're collecting these psychic doubles of people, and
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: they're terrified because it's very important that you bury the
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: person because they have to believe that they died. So
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: if you bury them and they can't yell, they can't stream,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: but they can fill everything. So their eyes open and
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: they bury the guy and put them under. Then when
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: they actually dig you up and you wake up, you
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: feel like you're enslaved to the bookar because you lost
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: your soul in the whole portion of the ritual.
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: Go ahead, the astral zombie, right, But the person that
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: they were actually using in that movie as the zombie, right,
• 42:10
  Speaker 7: he stays in the graveyard. And what's really interesting about
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: that is the actual zombies that they've interviewed before stay
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: in the graveyard. They don't want to.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Leave, right.
• 42:21
  Speaker 8: I think they belonged there. They think they're dead, even
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: as they're walking around, they're like, no, I'm dead. So
• 42:29
  Speaker 8: I think there is something to the idea that maybe
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: there's a bodily spirit has at left body, but maybe
• 42:36
  Speaker 8: the mind and the soul are just gone out of
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: that person after this ritual, and that's what they're taking
• 42:41
  Speaker 8: in sort of like shang song, collecting all these souls,
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: you know right well.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: And that's what they would do is initially upon digging
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: them up, they would put them into a state of
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: trauma and then give them this zombie cucumber mixed with
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: other stuff just it gets into lizards and toads and
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: all kinds of these sea worms. And but nonetheless, and
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: then they would basically haul you away to a plantation
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: as a worker, and they would keep you under the
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: influence of this zombie cucumber so that you wouldn't remember
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: or you were lost in this dreamscape basically, and you know,
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: then they would go back years later. And you know
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: the case of the main character that you're talking about
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: in the movie The Serpent in the Rainbow, I forgot
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: his name, but he had had a land dispute with
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: his brother and tried to take the land by force.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: So he they they call it getting sold to be
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: a zombie. And you would go to this court and
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: it's very Masonic, and they would have these flag queens
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: and different you know, positions, and you would be judged
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: in accordance with the ethics of the tribe, and essentially
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: you had a different portion of the island that had
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: different you know, groups of these secret societies. But nonetheless
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: they would basically uh and if you were found innocent,
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: then they would take the person that sold you into it.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: They'd make him a zombie because he was in the wrong.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: So this was an equatorial, you know, system to balance
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: society itself.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: So Headless had mentioned the removal of the soul or something.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: Do they put something in place of that soul in
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: order to control the person, like some kind of toper
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: the soul.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: I think it's on some astro abstract form of yourself
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: because the soul. I don't think you can we're talking
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: in that territory. From what I understand, you can't really
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: capture something like that. You know, it's like a microcosm
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: of a macrocosm. I think they're they're they're enslaving the
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: astro ego of what the person may identify themselves.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: As in like there, okay, so their consciousness.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty much an astroidtherical download, Like you have
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: a foul on a computer like you downloaded, So they're
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: making a copy of you and they're downloading your ego
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: and this copy, and they're putting it in that mason
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: jar and keeping that data.
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: It could be like the bond, the copy, you know
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: from Egyptian mythology, the separation.
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: So then that part, right.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: But then they would take these astral zombies that they
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: kept in the jars, and they could perform you know,
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: sympathetic magic with those energies to basically get the physical
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: zombie to perform certain tasks and do certain messenger type
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: or you know, chaos type, trickster type.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: In the movie movie they even depict that, I think
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: in a few ways with the when that guy starts
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: clicking on the glass and he makes that other guy
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: starts spizing out. They when they blow that shit in
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: that girl's face, and then all of a sudden she's
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: okay with dancing. You know what I'm saying, change herself now.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: The girl that's in the movie that going back to
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: the book, but the girl that's represented in the movie,
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: she's actually sixteen years old when he meets her, and
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: through this course of this uh, this voodown ritual, she
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: does this spinning and spinning and then another and when
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: she gets the spirit that's riding her, and this other
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: spirit takes and throws her while she's spinning into the fire,
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: and she like writhes around in the fire, and then
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: she rains up and throws coals everywhere and basically takes
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: a coal and is like looking at it and blowing
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: on it and puts it in her mouth and then
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: starts spinning around for another couple of minutes with this hot,
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: burning coal in her mouth.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: So, and she says that, you know, this certain spirit
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: that had come to ride her was impervious to fire.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Therefore she could.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: That's the Rada. They're called the Rada spirits. You got
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: the and you got Rada. The Radar spirits are more
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: forced and you're able like to change her glass. Yeah,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: so that's what the Boston attack was.
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: That was one of the Rada spirits that was inhabiting
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: that woman in the in the Boston scene where she's
• 47:30
  Speaker 7: coming at the guy and ready to kill him, it
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: was instructive to do.
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: That's why she takes the bite of the glass.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, read dress on too.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: But now that girl, the girl that's depicted within the
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: movie that's doing the voo down dance and getting mounted
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: by the spirit that's sixteen years old. She's actually from
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Boston and she was brought there by her father who
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: got involved in the politics, and she just to the
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: culture and became one of the queens.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: So you see also was doing a lot of funny stuff.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: That's where that's where Prince Hall actually comes from. How
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: black man. He comes from over there and they brought him.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: He was I think it was George Washington's slave, but
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: you got his freedom bought. So it's kind of funny
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: with the Prince Hall and starting those Masonic organizations in
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: the black community. It has something remnant from traditions of this.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: And I'm even look forward to say that some of
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: the MK ultra that you see with these celebrities You've
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: mentioned to you guys. There's a drug called flaka that
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: was in Florida. They call it like zombie drug. It
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: was an epidemic of it, like in eighteen something like
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: that show these people eating other people's faces off in Florida.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: So I'm thinking just like skullar mine or these apology.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that comes up, that comes up in the in
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: the actual academic stuff with this situation.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Right, really, Yeah, there is trace amounts within the zombie
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: powder of some scol.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I believe that they concocted another type of neural uh
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: toxin type of thing in the pharmaceuticaluse. They said, it
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: was all about pharmaceutical biotape extracting this thing. So what
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: of America is mass producing something from studying these voodoo magical.
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: That is for when you when you fly on planes
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: that are supposed to relieve some of the you know,
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: you know us. And what's really interesting is like, if
• 49:51
  Speaker 7: you want to talk about a zombie drugs, scapola meine
• 49:53
  Speaker 7: is the one you get blown in your face, right,
• 49:56
  Speaker 7: and then you do whatever anybody tells you to. So yeah, yeah,
• 50:01
  Speaker 7: you completely lose all control over your free will.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: So now in regard to the whole pharmaceutical aspect of
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: this right, as far as mining natural culture for these substances,
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: they were talking about self induced hibernation with this drug.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: They like the guy that was his advisor, that was
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: Wade Davis's advisor. He had worked under you and Cameron
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: from MK Ultra right, and he said, unfortunately when they left,
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: they stopped all of his procedures. You know, when he
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: was doing all the psychic driving with the LSD and
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: the electroshock therapy and the you know, strobe lights, and
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: but nonetheless they said that for thirteen years before he
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: went over there, the pharmaceutical industry had been trying to
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: go into Haiti specifically to get this formula for and
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: we find out in the book there's four different types
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: of these zombie drugs.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's something I wanted to mention, Robbie. That's
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: why I was looking at it. I'll get into the
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: scopolamine a little bit. But yeah, with the with the
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: the powder and stuff, that was even a thing that
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: does come up even in like his I guess published
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: whatever research and stuff that he he does. He gets
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: a bunch of them, and I think like maybe his
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: original thing was the tetra to jockson or however you
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: say that, And that does come up in some of them,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: and then some it's not there at all, and some
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: people are like, oh see he's wrong, or he's a kook,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: or you know, this was dumb. But then he does
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: propose that he says he thinks that there's other things,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: and then there is other people that have worked off
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: of him to prove that it is possible. He says
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: that he does think that also deter and some other
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Bruga Medzia, and then he's you know, it could fit,
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: could could fit the narrative because when it comes to
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: the pharmacology, it has a scopolamine and atramine has I
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: mean alkaloids that causes the classic anti colon nergic toxidrome,
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: which is agitation, delirium, amnesia, hallucinations, disorientation. That stuff could
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: be used instead of other things that's found in the
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: other one. So that kind of what you're saying, four
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: different types. They do think that there's other you know,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I guess formulas to doing this besides that one.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: So I have the four different preparations that they use
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: to make these different types of zombies. One was called
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: trombe leve, one was called retire bon agn, one was
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: called twue, and one was called levee. And it says
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: that describing the specific formulas, he did offer the facts
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: that one killed immediately, one made the skin rot, and
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: the third made the victims waste away slowly. So yeah,
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: these are punishments.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Wow, yep. Yeah.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: And and the with the puffer fish, specifically with the
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: liver and one of the other parts. I want to
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: say it was the reproductive area. If you ate that
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: and it got stuck in your mouth, it would cause
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: your mouth to rot from the inside out. And if
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: you swallowed it and it was in your gut, it
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: was cause your gut to rock, you know. So this
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: stuff is and and they said, depending on the time
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: of year when they harvest these pufferfish, that the summertime
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: was when they were the highest in this compound, you know.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: And so you know, they they would generally make these
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: powders in the heat of the summer and then the
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: ash from burning off the stuff, they said it was
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: like a caustic yellow. But then they would save these
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: summer you know, uh formula that they had made for
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: the rest of the year because this was when they
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: could harvest it, and it was the strongest as far
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: as that they needed for the ritual practice.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: So why do you think they put the Buffo Alvarez
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: in the movie like that was, you know, the frog,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: because that's the most powerful from what I heard in
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: the SNAr Desert Man in America.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: But well, now that's a hallucinogen, right, So you're going
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: to have you're going to have this expanded separation. You're
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: going to have the intense feeling that you're dying, that
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: you're having an out of body experience, and then the
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: puffer fish, it basically puts you into that catatonic state.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: So it's a combination of and they said with the
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: toads that they would actually take a sea worm and
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: put it in with the toad in a jar, and
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: they would put it in the coffin and bury it
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: for three days, and that the sea worm would get
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: the toad super upset so that all of its toxic
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: glands would fill up to the fullest, and then they're
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: incorporating this you know, energy from the then they would
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: pull it up and that's how they would basically create,
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: you know, harvesting the most they could with the least
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: amount possible.
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: This is animal alchemy, right.
• 55:11
  Speaker 7: Everybody thinks about, you know, mineral alchemy, and everybody thinks
• 55:16
  Speaker 7: about plant alchemy, but this is animal alchemy. We're using
• 55:19
  Speaker 7: the different properties and the different animals to their extent,
• 55:23
  Speaker 7: which is not something that's really talked about because of
• 55:26
  Speaker 7: how gross and torture.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, well, and that's what they were doing
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: in media, you know, and as far as you know
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: where medicine comes from, they were experimenting with all these
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: different animals and plants, and you know, I mean you
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: see it in a lot of native cultures from South
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: America to Africa to even in the German Nederlands. You know,
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: it's depending on where you are. People push the edge
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: with with what's available to them.
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: In alchemy is one to me go ahead. Alchemy is
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: one of the sciences or studies that tries to focus
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: on immortality, the pursuit of immortality, the elixers, whether mineral,
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: plant or animal. And of course this movie that the
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: whole theme is about immortality in a sense, and even
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: the unification of the serpent and rainbow we got the
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: wisdom and the immortality. And it's just I think that
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: title too, just is striking because it has this whole
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: biblical relationship in what are the primordial stories of the
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: Bible that are pre date the Jewish heritage, right with
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: the with the Garden of Eden, with the snake and
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: the wisdom and immortality, and of course the Noah's arc
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: with the resulting rainbow of unification and immortality and reincarnation.
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: And it makes me think too of how this movie
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: and also all zombie movies are essentially a perversion of
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: the pursuit that Osiris lays out for this immortality. And
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: all zombie movies, I swear, have this like swamp thing,
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: not many, many different movies and a series of zombie
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: flicks will have this swamp thing green Osiris creature. I
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: just think how often the perversion of this pursuit of
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: immortality is integrated into these movies. And it's just one
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: other thing too. The there's several different Tibetan and Hindu
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: groups that have different really initiation practices, you know. One
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: uh famously, you know, not not so hard to kind
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: of confirm, is like the meditation state that gets so
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: deep that they will bury themselves and they can basically
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: undergo a process of internal breathing. Another one is staying
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: a night in a graveyard, and it reminds me too
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: of Ben. The whole movie has this immortality and it's
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: very orphic.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: He goes to like rescue the girl and save us
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: with the new discovery to hell and back and and
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: the jaguar right has that human thing. The Mayans, it's
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: all about spirit being the spirit animal that go back to.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: And then at the end that that same entity jumps
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: into him when he fights, uh, that evil guy right
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: the uh.
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: And there's the Tibetan Buddhism has the lessons concerning really
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: high meditation reaching rainbow body, which again is this universal
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: humanity consideration of becoming lightd and becoming enlightened.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Right now, well, there is the only big cat that
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: sleeps in a tree in the jungle, closer to the skies,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: closer to the spirit realm.
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, if any of y'all have kids,
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: if y'all seen the show Elena of Avalore is about
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: this princess. It's in the same place that Princess Sophia
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: from a show called Sophia the First, right and that
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: funny uh in chancey is this land like this imaginary land?
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: But in the Elena of Avalor show or Avalon, I
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: don't know. It's like in South America and they have
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: these flying jaguars that escort them everywhere. They're like their guides,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: they're kind of like their guardians, like they like they
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: don't have it. Well, I think they have guards of
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: like their little castle. But these you know, no one
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: fucks with the jaguars, right right, Yeah, they're flying around,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: they're pretty cool they talk.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: So I was gonna say there was a big craze
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: in the late eighteen hundred, mid to late eighteen hundreds
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: about people being afraid to be buried alive because of
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: the You got to figure when people started to find
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: out about a lot of this vood down culture from
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: the outside looking in. Even the voodoo doll itself was
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: not part of the voodown culture like at all. It
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: was something that was interjected into the storyline just for sensationalism.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Basically, right, they're called and KISSI and congo, so there's
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: a right split off of then kissy is is a
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: fetish to call it a fetish object, but they made
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: it into like Hollywood ship go ahead.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, But I was gonna say people that were
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: afraid to be buried alive. Hans Christian Anderson constantly carried
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  Speaker 3: a note in his pocket instructing what should be done
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  Speaker 3: with his body after his death. The English novelist Wilkie
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  Speaker 3: Collins placed a similar similar precautionary note by his bedside
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  Speaker 3: table each night. Doyefsky did as well, and he urged
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  Speaker 3: that on his burial it should be delayed five days
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  Speaker 3: least he should still be alive. There was we oh
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: here at a Cavendish and actress. She left instructions that
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  Speaker 3: on her death her juggular should be sliced to make
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: sure that she was dead. But then lay the Byron
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: Richard Burton, Daniel O'Connor, Lord Lytton Bishop. Yeah, you just
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  Speaker 3: go through this and they and they had this coffin
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: they developed. It was called the Life Saver coffin, and
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: it basically had a tube with a little you know system,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: and if you woke up in the coffin a live
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: stor you would pull a little trigger and it would
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: ring a bell. The ones with the windows in them.
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  Speaker 4: Now, I don't have the coffin like the windows in
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: them with the I think it's like a door that
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: you can open open.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and like stick your arm out or whatever.
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  Speaker 6: If I'm a Poultergeist.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 7: If I'm a poulter Geist, I'm going to each and
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 7: every one of those balls and I'm bringing them.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, So right before we get off or too far
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: away from the subject, Ethan, you're you're onto something, uh.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: With the mastardization of these cultures, especially headless, Me and
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: Headless talked about the recent Begonia movie with Emma Stone
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  Speaker 4: in it, and how it's an asterization.
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  Speaker 3: Of the uhu I'm gonna butcher his.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: Name Aristaeus, I say, right in the original Grecian Begunia
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  Speaker 4: ritual with the bees, and how it's like an inverse
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  Speaker 4: of that. And it's just it's it's it's like that
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  Speaker 4: a lot and in a lot of movies, I think,
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  Speaker 4: and we don't really realize it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, it's wild talking about being buried alive. My uncle
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: was one of the grand Masons here in South Carolina.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: I used to always ask him because he used to
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: wear the ring and anytime, like we get put over
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  Speaker 1: by the copses flashes ring and cops go away, let it,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: let it, let us go. I said, how you know
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: I was a child, of course, I was like, how
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  Speaker 1: can I be a part of that? And he said
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: he used to say, come back to me when you're
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: a man. And when I became a teenager, I asked him.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, well, you know, I'm pretty much a man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm becoming a man. I just wanted to know, like
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: what is process of that, like what is all that stuff?
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: And he was talking about something like about being buried alive,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: the whole hiram abief type thing. But you know, I've talked.
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  Speaker 7: To several Freemasons that had told me the same thing.
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  Speaker 7: There's a ritual that they have to be buried alive.
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  Speaker 4: Rude, and.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but it also connects, you know, because Cyrus
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  Speaker 1: the god of the dead. So going back to the
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: zombie being green and you know, the osiris the archetype.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: They just did a research paper on metaphysics called the
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: neuro egen Molds, and they're discovering through the ig modes
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  Speaker 1: in the mind that cultural evolution with psychedelics pertains to
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: the archetypes throughout mythology. So all of the archetypes play
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: like a song when you're in a psychedelic state typically,
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  Speaker 1: and they're calling the igen molds, and in that paper
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  Speaker 1: they're pretty much served rising that the the every single
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: mythology transfers one archetype over Baron Sombdi and voodoo is
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  Speaker 1: is osiris. A ledba is a is an archetype of Osiris.
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  Speaker 1: So the god of the dead, like the most.
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  Speaker 4: Right, dude, I had voodoo to all of him when
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: I was a kid. My mommy, I don't I don't
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  Speaker 4: know why, but.
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  Speaker 1: They call him issue, but he opens the gate to
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the spirits and everything. So these pantheons
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  Speaker 1: just passed over and take on new beings in all
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: of different civilizations that you study it.
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  Speaker 3: So as far as that opening of the way, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Osirius did that, Jesus does that. But when you get
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: into the worship of the miscellaneous mystery schools that came
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: out of the Phrygian and Egyptian systems, from Adonis to
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: a Cyrus to add Us to they all would take
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: a tree on a certain it was generally March twenty
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: second three two two, which is where we get the
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: skull and bones number, and they would essentially hollow out
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  Speaker 3: the tree and keep the inside part and carve a
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  Speaker 3: effigy of the dead and soon to rise again. Osiris
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: or Adonis, same thing, yeah, yeah, yeah, man, exactly exactly,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: and he wears the exact same costume as the Phrygian
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  Speaker 3: Addis absolutely but nonetheless they would anoint that with oil
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  Speaker 3: and keep it for a year in the sanctuary. And
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: when you get into the Voodown culture, when you go in,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: one of the central themes is a small black coffin
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  Speaker 3: that is, you know, essentially I think in many ways
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  Speaker 3: carrying over from this philosophy.
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  Speaker 2: One thing I do know, the guy who does go ahead, yeah,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: just real quick, I did want to because I know,
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  Speaker 2: like you mentioned, they think, yeah, skull and bones, and
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: the Freemasons, even with the O T O. From my experience,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: at some point in their initiations, you will get into
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: something that resembles a box and they will act like
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: they're nailing and clothes. So I mean I've experienced that there,
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  Speaker 2: so wow.
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  Speaker 3: First, yeah, that's the death to the mortal world in
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: the shape of like an egg.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Charles Manson the child in the box of Stephen King
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: Castle Rock the child in the box, but he traveled
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: into a parallel reality. The reason why they put him
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: in the box a box.
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  Speaker 3: And she'll play in it all day. Sorry, but it's parallels.
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  Speaker 1: Is it's coming from these lodges. It's it's a it's
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  Speaker 1: a form of some type of magical initiation or some
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  Speaker 1: ship like that.
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  Speaker 3: Right right, Well, in that then that the third degree
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: when the King Solomon basically rises up pyah Moobiff with
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: the lion's paul grip and he brings him up and
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: he basically pulls him up so his mouth is right
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: next to the initiate's ear, and he whispers the secret word,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: which is that that word uh jabulin, Well, jabulan is one,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: but this is maha bone, Yeah, Maha bone. But it yeah,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: it basically is representative of the left hand pillar and
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: the feminine side. But it's this whole idea of this
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: secret word of the highest initiate within going back to
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: the order of serapis.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 5: When I think of bach and immortality, I think of hermetics, right,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: the whole idea of hermetically ceiling an object or our
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: body even and the in relation to that. The dow
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: Lists believe that our organs and our body and our
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: whole different body systems are each individually contained and have
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: to be separated, but have to flow in unison together
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: at the same rate of vibration and alignment. And so
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: without a container, we're leaking our bodily fluids and our
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: body our mental thoughts and losing losing energy without a
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: proper box or container.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, that's crazy. And I was just about to
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: say somebody I was reading that thing that popped up,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: does somebody have a question fire Pixie.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 7: They wanted to know which part you were from the
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 7: coastal part of upstate.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm from I'm from Columbia, so I'm like in
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: the middle middle area. H oh, well, I'm in South Carolina. References.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I said that earlier.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: Made it sound like you're from South Carolina.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: A lot of people say, I sound like I'm from
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: a Midwest assumption.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: No, no, I think you said something about South Carolina.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I guess he lives there.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: Well I did, Okay, okay, was making short that I
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: stated that, But yeah, that's very weird. But to the
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: point that you were making Robbie kind of lost. I
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: was just about to say something that you said last
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: you guys, go ahead while I remember.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: Well, I was going to say so. In regard to
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: the culture of Voodown being a secret society, there's this lacqueray.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: He verified the existence of passports, ritual handshakes, secret passwords, banners, flags,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: the brilliant red and black flag uniforms, as well as
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: specialized body of spirits, songs and dances, certain drum beats.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: That's one of the things that I really kind of
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: found interesting was with these drum beats during these rituals,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: they would have three drummers, and like you were talking
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: about headless, they would lay this out with the Yeah,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: they would take corn and sprinkle it on the ground
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: almost in a cobbalistic type a tree of life, and
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: then they would branch out and determine where the drums
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: went within the four directions. And these drums, they each
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: had their own syncopation that played at their own time,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: and as they would basically play, they would change syncopated levels,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: and at a certain point they would all come in
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: to a like a syncopated heightened state, and that would
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: be the point at which the spirit would come in.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 7: Do you want to just watch it? I got all
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 7: that on this clip right here. It's about three minutes.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 7: If it'll mind, it's I'm.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: Up, it's I'm not playing three minutes. I'm sorry, I
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: cannot it will take it down, dude. It happens every
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: time when we play this game. I'm not doing that.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: I might being a deck way time we play this game.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: What happens? Doesn't it? Does it? Does it not? Does
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: it not happen every time we play this game? So
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: why do we do this? When you bang your head
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: against the won, it hurts? Did you do it again.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's the perfect example what happens.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: I haven't even covered the movie yet. To get into
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: a different show about zombies.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: Well, it sounds like a like bineural, if that's the
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 5: right word.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: I forget.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: Yes, the rating the hemisphere in the brain Okay, yeah,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: and right, try even even more. The premise else that
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: it separates the hemispheres of the brain and then brings
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: them together with in some format, different systems, different formats,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: but interesting.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: Very Let's go back to the movie. Lit's get at
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: the movie, y'all. I think it was very retrochronistic because
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: they're showing you what's gonna happen before it happens. When
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: he sees the Jaguar spirit. When he first goes to
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: the medicine man and the Amazon, the medicine man tells
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: him I have something for you to see, and he
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: remember he hands him the medicine. Well, first he gets
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: the medicine to take back to Harvard, but he gives
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: him his own. He was I want you to drink this,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: and the guy next to him that was dripping the helicopter,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: he was like, don't drink that ship, bro. And by
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: the way, I wanted to ask, y'all, did the guy
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: that drove the helicopter actually die?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: Like, oh yeah, there were certain things I wanted to
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: ask Robert if you knew if it was true or
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: not even about them.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard something about that.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: But just a lot of in that movie.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like that, yeah, yeah, did he die in the movie? Like,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: I'm just asking what that would mean that the Amazon
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: people killed him if you.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Did that ship to fake the guy out.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: Now, I think one different, big difference between the movie
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: and the book was Wade Davis going in and doing
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: all this research and going back to Haiti numerous times.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: He was never distributed and given the zombie powder and
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: went through the race of Resurrection cycle himself. But in
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: the movie, Wes Craven took those liberties because this is like,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: like you were talking about Ethan, this is an inherent
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: inversion you as well, Annie of the Osiris cycle, you know,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: And instead of evolving into upward forms with the zombie,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: you're evolving into downward forms within.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: The underworldonic the Katonic aspect. And that's the thing about it,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: Like the movie was showing a lot of occultism in
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: meta physics. There's a guy that was resurrected name was Christis,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: so he has the name christ in his name. Name
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: was like Christis, And he's actual the one that saves
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: fucking Bill Pullman's ass at the end, because if he
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: didn't dig him up in that time, he was fucked.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: There's the other character's name that's kind of like his
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 5: teacher or accompanies him, and it's Lucy On, which is Lucifer.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: Good point, because without Lucy he would have never had
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: the counter light force to battle the police force.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: And Wes Craven's good with doing that as far as
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: setting up the dichotomy of the you know, the two side,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: the dualism.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he does a little bit of job of that.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's at the beginning of the movie. As soon
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: as you play this thing.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: Actually saying that clip too when I was looking at it.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for people, I guess you're listening. He says, in
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: the legends of Voodoo, the serpent is a symbol of
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: of earth, the rainbow is a symbol of Heaven. Between
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: the to all creatures must live and die. But because
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: he has a soul, man could be trapped in a
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: terrible place where death is only the beginning.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: And they talk about this state as far as that
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: they put them into. There is no past, you have
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: no memories, and there is no future because you're not
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: going anywhere and you're basically controlled and used as you know,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: slave labor in the fields. Yeah, the servatory exactly.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 6: M Yeah, they're slowly turning us into that.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: Very black Lodgian. Yeah. The colors of Haiti were red
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: and blue under the French, but they stripped the blue
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: away and brought in the black. In regard to the
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: voodown culture, and it represents the night as well as
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: the people uprising and taking over against the French.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: That's Barrymby. That's Baron Sombie right there. That is Osiris Okay, yeah,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: the top anytime you see the top hat and you
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: see the paint, the white paint, this is Baron Sombi
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: right here.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: Do you know what the significance of the top hat is? Where?
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: That is George as I was just about to ask
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: you off, y'all know.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: From what I understand, it's also may sonic. It represents
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: someone who has superior.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: Knowledge because to heaven or whatever from rings their head.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: Also the rain.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, actually I got a I got a different
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 7: idea because you actually see this a lot in ancient
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 7: Greek depictions of hades. Right, So he has a flower
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 7: pot head, right, So he's got a flower pot on
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 7: top of his head, indicating that he's a cathonic deity
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 7: because the rest of his body will be under the
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 7: ground if the flower pot is sitting on the ground.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 7: That's what I think the top hat is is the continuation.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: Flower crown chakra right, right, and then you have well
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: that's the guy.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no feathers as well. Yeah, yeah, the crown chakra.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: The crown chakra has thirty three pedals on the flower.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: That's when he drinks that ship that you see.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: The jaguar, that's what you said that he was on
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: the ground playing with himself.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, playing with the jaguar though.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were just looking at him like the jaguar.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: Now you know what jaguar or something?
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Jaguar.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the jaguar is like the lion's grip, like you
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 7: were talking about, like this, how he out of hell?
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I have some let me just get pissed
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: this stuff. Here's where you start seeing and you know,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: I think you had mentioned it first. Annie about uh.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: I think maybe Saturn or something like that. You will Solemon,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: you will see that ship.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: Saturn, like the Bokar is Saturn because he's restricting. Oh yeah,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: that's the Saturn symbol right there. That's it was.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: A good I yo, what what is that one right there?
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: The top left, the top left, the no no no
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: downs down that one.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, looks like that one.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: I think that's eight. I think that's the point.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: I know that was a chaos chaos for chaos magic.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: These are put.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 7: Where they put it on all of the stelle from
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 7: Ugar and uh Samaria. They always put it in that spot,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 7: the eight pointed star.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: This is when the guy starts acting crazy because that
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: dude's like clicking the cup to Yeah.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: I think he woke up out of that zombie state
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: and realized that, you know, he was in it, and
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: he got belligerent because the Petoi spirit was was still
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: on him.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 8: Hm.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: I was thinking about the eight in relation to at
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: the end and maybe a couple of times there is
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 5: a scorpion that comes out of actually Lucian's mouth and
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 5: his mouth baby, but when he's in the grave, a
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 5: spider is crawling on space which are both of course,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: the the eight legged creatures.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: Right, it was all astrology. This whole movie was astrology.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: I just me studying Vader astrology. I just saw some
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: much similism of it. But these are veves and the
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: petty pimbas in Santa Ria, and it kind of shows
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: like it's telling the spirit which direction and need to go.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: It goes into and possessive states. That's why they draw it.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: It's like a conduit for almost a command or how
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: the spirit is getting instructions of who can enter into
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: this field. That works sat in.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 9: Here like a solemonic sigul, like a sigul, right right,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 9: if you take if you take, like did you see
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 9: how these down here have those swirls on the end
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 9: of them, they swear like if you piece those together,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 9: you do get this of you.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: You're right, You're absolutely right. Yeah.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 7: In the ritual, uh, they they drew different sized circles
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 7: for the different sized drums, so like they would have
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 7: one larger one and them they would have different symbols
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 7: inside of that circle for that drum, and then another
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 7: set of symbols for the other drum as well, so
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 7: all of these things work coordinated not only harmonically, but
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 7: also with these different symbols that they put on the
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 7: ground underneath them, right, that's simple.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: And that circle by the rainbow, right, was that also
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: a serpent like orboris?
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: Like, uh, it's definitely a rainbow on the exterior.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: I didn't know if that was a serpent, because look,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: you have this little head over here on the right
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: or what's.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: Wait wait wait, let me go back. This one is better.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just I don't know. It looks like a more
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: Boris rainbow.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: It was kind of yeah, this thing right here in
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: the corporation of both the serpent and the right.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. When I saw that before, I was like, what
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: the hell is that? I didn't even think of rainbow?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: I thought, no, no, no, it's up a little bit. Yeah,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: up to the right, up to the top.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 6: It's the one with the circle on top of the
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 6: one with the circle.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: The circle is a rainbow.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 4: And I think that's a serpent as well, because look
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: at the head on the right over there.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: The tail is at the the head right there.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 6: It looks like a feather.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: Well all right, well maybe I'm wrong.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 7: No, but I see what you're saying, Like the head
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 7: is sort of going off to the side. But that
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 7: looks like a feather.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: But yeah, maybe a feather.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 6: It looks medicine really, you know.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: Well because okay, because there's a little thing underneath it.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's resting on that. I don't know what that is.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: That looks like a face. Actually, never mind, I don't know.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: Well, it's four corners in the four gates of most
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: dollars quality.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 6: Sorry, but I was gonna say as well, Oh yeah.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: The flower, I was gonna say. It's in regard to
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: when you go down and you see that serpent going
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: up the pole. You see that with Esclapius, you see
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: that with you know, Moses and the Ashrapole, you see
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: that with the Egyptian serpent in the tree. You see
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, so you know the serpent, you know, going
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: back into the mysteries, even within the Druids, it's one
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: of the most long standing sacred wisdom symbols existing before,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: you know, going back into ancient Lamrian stuff. I've read.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: You can live in any terrain. It can live in
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: the trees and live in water. You can live in
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: the sand, right a snake, It lives in any terrain.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: It's a very spiritual album.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: All the like all the esoteric different dimension realms that
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: can exist.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: The serpent is the waveform if you turn that, if
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: you turn it up, it looks like the encephalograph, yes,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: electro electrophalograph of brained waveform. So everything is a way form,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: like a serpent.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: Right, The reality itself is a wave form right.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 5: At the heart of the movies.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 7: Yes, right, So they show when he's back in Boston,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 7: they show the EEG scans of these different people that
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 7: they've done the experiments on, and it just it all
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 7: drops off once you become that zombie. But the only
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 7: thing that remains is the vision and the.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's basically you're conscious the whole time.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, one.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: Thing here I noticed I find interesting. You have like
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: you see like again like these these symbols, even this
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: up there, if you put it sideways, it would still
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: be kind of like the sigilist sent But like even
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: when they now go to the the graveyard for the
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: first time, you get it like kind of again on
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: the gates.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah you do, yeah, you do.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: Everywhere.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: You know that that that stuff is like literally everywhere
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: throughout the movie. It was the first time, and.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: You know, Wes Craven did all that on purpose fish.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: It was interesting.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 7: See a lot of is like magical implements. Oh that's
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 7: another good ax and X. That's freemason sort of.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's even the central facatad too.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: There were well magical implements within the various rituals. They
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: would take cane juice and blow it at the feet.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: They would they would take alcohol as well and blow
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: it into the fire. The things that they used for
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: implementation weren't necessarily physical. Now, there was the idea of
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: throwing the bone where they would take a fish bone
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: or tile bone that was a certain bone that was
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: long and pointed within the animal, and the voodown priest
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: you know, would throw it at someone. And this goes
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: back into African culture as well as far as throwing
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: the bone and the person that received the bone it
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: was like getting the evil eye. And there's documented cases
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: of people wasting away in three to four days. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: voodoo death. That's exactly what they call it. To as
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: far as the physicians in the medical industry, they call
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: it voodoo death. Yes.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 7: So, as far as I've seen, there are three different
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 7: states of belief that can come about through these rituals, right,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 7: So one of them would be the idea that you
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 7: would get better, right, And that's what's that called the
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 7: something effect.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: Any placebo?
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 6: Right, the plus and then you've got the no sebo effect.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 7: Right, The no sebell effect is where you start to
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 7: get second on the very end of the no se
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 7: bull effect.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. I hate that they got loose Lucy in
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: man at the end. That was real messed up. But
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: for for some reason I knew they was going to
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: get them.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 6: Did they put the moon on the cross?
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 7: I wondering if that's like a solar cross or a
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 7: lunar cross.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: Serpent coming into it. And it's a skull and crossbones
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: almost in a certain way too. It's got the cross
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: down there this is at the top iron. Yeah, it's
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: it kind of looks in similar ways to the Eastern
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: Orthodox cross. And then you have the cross them there
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: too with the four crosses on the side that gives
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: you the Cross of Jerusalem. Wow, okay, sorry.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 7: I've got it paused. But when the low what is
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 7: overtaking the woman in the ritual, you can clearly see
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 7: the form that she's taking is a pregnant woman. So
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 7: if if I just pause that moon child, right, So
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 7: she's in the position of a pregnant woman after she
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 7: gets possessed in this riginal So I thought that was
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 7: pretty interesting as well.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was definitely the signs of the nepheline and
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: all of that in the temples is inviting those similar
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: spirits like the rada, the hot spirits, we're called soraphic
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: spirits to come into the body of a version and
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: have multiple men have you know, sex with her so
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: they can in view her with you know, the different
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: DNA to produce a moon child. And a lot of
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: people were born from the lineages of these virgins that
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: were taking advantage of and that becomes the nepheline bloodline
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: in the history of that because it's infused the spirits
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: were being called down into the version of women. And
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: then she birthed you know, one of their child. You
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: don't know whose child it is, but the point is
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: is that that child has children and they have children,
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: and that carries on that lineage. And today I believe
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: they started a new tradition with these celebrities and world
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: stage figures that they've restarted that that tradition and they're
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: literally having sex rituals and the IVF births, they're they're
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: doing some stuff to.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 7: You can get down to the very second of implantation.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 7: When you're doing IVF right, you can actually get even
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 7: more precise with all of the astrology and everything. So
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 7: if you want to know how they're going to make
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 7: that moon child, it has to be on very specific dates.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: There called they're called teethies Invader astrology. The moon has
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: to be lying with a certain lunar mansion, so it
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: has to be in the position of a fixed star,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: and the fixed stars there is. It governs the zodiac.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: So these are things outside of the zodiac. So this
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: is a field. If I had a big circle in
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: a circle within a circle, the circle within it is
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: the zodiac. The bigger circle is to fix stars. The
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: moon has to pass through the bigger circles. And when
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: it was aligned with the Earth geocentrically, they knew that
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: the spirit couldn't enter down and through that.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: And that's kind of what that cross looked like as
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: far as the alignment, and then the spirit of the
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: serpent coming down and fertilizing the ovum.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: So the spirit is the God or the fallen angel
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: or whatever you want to call it coming down into
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: the person. That's all the pictures we ad.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's all.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: I kind of okay, Yeah, so yeah there. I was
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: hoping it was going to my memory with what happened
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: towards the end when they finally went to war with
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: the with the bokar.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: Let me see if I can remember exactly step by
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: step how that came together.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 7: I so love the physical effects, right, So when they've
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 7: got the leopard there, what they're doing is they're shining
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 7: this light onto a stream of water, and so they
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 7: get that shimmery effect that ends up creating kind of
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 7: a rainbow. And so you see the rainbow versus this
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 7: other guy, which would kind of represent.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: This and the woman, the sister with it with her
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: head cut off Christ his sister. That's Rahu in Vada astrology.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: That's the guess what Rahu is the serpent in Vada astrology.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: It represents the shadow of the planets. Look up Rahu
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: and Kate, you know Rahu headless know about it? We
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: uh get the head is cut off right here.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 6: Close to tide to the moon.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what that was. That So if I
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: can go through every scene. I promise you I could
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: figure out the astrology that they were conjecturing throughout the film.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: But that was when he sailed on a boat. He
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: told him, he said, I was there in your dream.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: That's how I know what you were thinking. But he said,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: I'm more. I'm more. I'm more effective in your mind
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: than I am physically. So even when he got back
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: to a to America, the spirits were still on him,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: and the spirits came out of him and jumped on
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: that woman that we were talking about in Red and
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: he had to come back.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: Then.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: Well, one, he wanted to save the girl. That's a
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: part of the whole the mythosa. You know, you get
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: the girl at the end.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: The hero's journey, the heroes.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking of the hero's journey. You know,
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: he had to go back and get his feminine half.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: She represented his feminine half. But he had to go
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: to war with the underworld. He had to go back
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: into the underworld. It was almost a Amduat journey because
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: he had the fly there. He had to go. As
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: soon as he got there, he thought he was kidnapped,
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: but it was Lucian that swapped out the cars brought
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: him to another place. And you know, on the cover
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: of the movie, the cross on his head came from
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: Lucien putting the spiritual protection on him that was critical
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: for the right. He did elect a little, he got
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: a little greegree and he gave two crosses. And I think, what.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 7: Did we see how Lucian I don't remember this part.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 7: Did we see how he was poisoned or how he
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 7: was taken out? Was he taken out by a bad person.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: Or because there scorpion.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: A scorpion, so he.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: Had already put the spirits over him, just like how
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: I hop hopped on the woman hopped on Lucian. So
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: it's just some of how powerful this this this ship is.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: You know, well, how many spirits he collected? So look
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: how many spirits? Motherfucker had hundreds.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: Spirits, right, And I got the impression.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 7: I got the impression from Lucian's death that it was
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 7: kind of like the Star Wars thing, you know, like
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 7: he could strike me down and I'll come back ten times,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 7: like he was actually you know, physically leaving his body
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 7: so that he could join the fight from the spiritual realm,
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 7: which you know, he said, I'm more powerful than the
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 7: spiritual realm anyway, So he did.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 6: I saw that happening as well.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: So that's the guy that ripped his own head off, right,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 4: Is that the same guy?
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah? I know he does at the end that there
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 5: he does rip off, so his head. I was so shocked.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: I remember specifically, Yeah, there he comes out.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 4: I think, I don't think it's it's it may be
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 4: his body and maybe his corpse that the dude had.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: Oh he was impersonating him. He was a person that came.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: Off.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was a hallucination. He was planning
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: in his mind. He was sucking with him and and
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: that's the thing about it. He almost was like the
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: it the penny Wise spirit. He was speeding off his fears,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: you know, going into the whole love Craftian thing, because
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: it is really the dead lights and it's an interdimensional
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: void that that feeds off negative energy. That's what it
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: actually is, not a clown or anything.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 3: That's just a manifests as a clown.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: But the clown is a rashaksha. It's actually amas invaded, right.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: That what was the injured cried out rohasa because after
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 3: they were created, they came to try to eat him
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: and they the rock Shastas they have these large vampiric
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: teeth in the bottom and the top and like long
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: black hair and they only worked in like pits and
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: deep dark spaces, bringing back minerals and gems and they
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: were Yeah, the rock Shastas are interesting.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: And if you look.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 7: Well this movie specifically, you got the clown makeup going
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 7: on with that shaman at the very beginning, like normally
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 7: shaman you know, stuff does not look like that, and
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 7: it was colored in a certain way that made me
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 7: think cloud.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 6: So it did have that roa type of quality to it.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: And this is the thing about it. In Vada castrology,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: like if I looked into your chart, I could tell
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: you whether you have a Rackschoksha placement that's the darker
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: planets that's Mars, Saturn, Rahu and K two, or you
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: have the David planets that's Jupiter, Venus or the Sun
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: or Mercury, or you have they're called Manusha that's more
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: of the Moon Earth placements. And the Minutia is a human,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: the Deva is an angel, Rashatsa is the is the demon.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: If you have a Rakshasta placement in your eighth in
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: your twelfth house. That means you have to watch what
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: you say, because what you say can have Black magician implementations, right,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: you know when they say watch what you say. If
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: you have a rashatka placement, you can literally speak death
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: on somebody's life. So a lot of these black magicians
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: around here they have eighth Like I got Saturn in
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: the A House. That's why I know so much about
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: the fucking the coat. You know, you have Saturn in
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: the A house, you have a rakshaksha placements called shatabisha,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: and you're able to literally the vibration of what you
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: speak can manifest more. So you have to watch what
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: you say.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 7: Well, that's one thing I thought that was missing from
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 7: the movie, at least overtly, is the time of year
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 7: that these things are taking place, because I know that
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 7: specifically in Voodoo they've got certain festivals in certain sacrifice
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 7: days during the year that they do, and so in
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 7: this they sort of say, oh, it's just whatever, but
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 7: really those are very specific dates and very.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: Specific feeding days have to feed the spirits, celebrations of
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: feeding them. Yeah, but it's a religion though it was
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: a religion, you know, so it does have power in it,
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: but I feel like the spirits get more hungry. You
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: got to do more things when you're you're almost in
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: an astral economy there. So I don't know. I mean,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: right now, in the condition that Haiti's in, it seems
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: like they need to do something else, not to completely
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: get rid of voodoo, but they need to evolve the system.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: I feel, well, but the Voodown system, the evolution of
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: the vood Down system is what is essentially allowed them
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: to separate themselves out and keep their own sovereignty as
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 3: a nation state, which is well, but I think no,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 3: but I think that's why they I think that's why
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 3: they've kept them so poor and and.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: We know that.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like I know, you know,
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: I know what you mean.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: It's a mask, you know.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 3: In the sky.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 7: You know, I think has a farm, you know, like
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 7: they've got the people, their bosses that are connected to
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 7: all these elites sort of using that area sort of
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 7: like a training group for people like the Clintons and
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 7: a lot of other people that want to go down
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 7: there and learn this stuff because a lot of elites learned.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: With Alan H. Greenfield, who wrote the book The Secrets
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: of the Black Lives. I've had them on my channel,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: and there's literal schools that they go through Haiti and
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: Europe in the Romanian caves where they train you to
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: be a part of the Black Lodge. Ever heard of
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: this train you to literally talk to demons in a
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: cave and you have to be one person has to
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: stay behind, so you all telepathically are in a class
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: speaking to a demon. I think it's called skolomancy or
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: something like that is in his book and he was
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: breaking it down on my channel. The Topahs and everything,
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: the topas manifest themselves and they teach. It's like Satan
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: is teaching, teaching the class, and then somebody has to
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: stay behind in the cave as a sacrifice forever, so
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: they can't leave the cave. So one student that they
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: end on some Hogwarts, some dark harbor Hogwarts ship. After
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: you finish your class, the class for the year, you
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: learn some secret black magic shit. When the when the
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: rest of the class resurfaces back to the surface, one
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: person is selected to stay behind and they have to
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: stay with the demon or the the.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: That's terrifying. That kind of gets into uh, what is it?
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: Aphrodite and Uh, who is it that goes into the
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: underworld and and she's trying to free Persephone. Yeah, and
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: Adonnas and Adonnas, you know, agrees to stay in the
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: underworld half the year and above the world half the year.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 7: So you know, yeah, Apollo, Apollo retreats into Hyperborea during
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 7: the winter months.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: True, true, that's true. So now, one of the things
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: I wanted to bring up before we get out of
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: here is there's also a ritual of gaining the soul
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 3: back that they would perform, and uh, I'll just read
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 3: a little bit of it here. It says, uh, the Mambo,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: a priestess in the Artabonne, on the critical night, she
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: bound his jaw, placed cotton in his nostrils, and dressed
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 3: him in the clothing of the dead. His feet were tied,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 3: as were his hands, and he was laid in a
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 3: narrow trough dug in the ground in the oun floor.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 3: A white sheet covered his entire body. They put a
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: thunderstone called a pere toneere on his chest with the
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: skull of a human and a dog, and they would
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 3: basically put a banana plant that they would basically like
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: Indiana Jones when he's switching the sandbag for the golden idol.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 3: This banana plant is the decoy, and they would sacrifice
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 3: a chicken and basically the blood, and they would do
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 3: this transference ritual where they move the zombie into the
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: banana plant and then the human would get a soul
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: back and then he could go about his and go
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 3: about his way.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 3: The guy that had it done, he had health problems
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 3: the rest of his life from this process, you know,
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 3: but nonetheless he felt within his himself and within the
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: culture that he had regained his personality essentially.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: That's crazy, bro right, right, So AMO is like a swapping,
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: like a Placebo swapping, you know, so the spirit could
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: be trick so you can gain the soul back, right,
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: That's what it sounds like.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: Well, and he also says that after the ritual of
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: the banana plant, it never grew. It kind of just
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 3: wilted and died, so symbolically, but go ahead, headless.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 7: Have you guys ever heard of the zombie apocalypse that
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 7: happened in the Bible?
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 6: Is a Matthew seven?
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, yes, I do know. You're talking about
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: when the dad got up at the Jesus.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and they want there to right,
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: what was it they prayed for death but their their
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 3: flesh would not rot.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: That's yeah. Isn't there some big ass rock concert happening
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: like in a couple of days called Zombie Apocalypse.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: Probably probably probably a year festival.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that has been all year they've been promoted. And
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: the whole.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 5: Energy behind voodoo that is depicted in the movie and
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 5: that we're all familiar with it really actually is depicted
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 5: in modernity with remote viewing and remote influence. Right, So
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 5: these these magical operations or systems are still being at
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 5: least research, we could say with certainty today.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah, research it's being used, I really believe.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 6: Sure.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying that it's People might think that
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 5: this is like a far out thing because it's maybe
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 5: foreign to you know, Americana at large, but really it's
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 5: not not a step away from other systems that are
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 5: doing the same things.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was what chaos magic is, whatever works
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: you use. So they mixing some of that voodoo best
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: everything else.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: I used to incorporate a lot of I guess recipes
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: from hudu and voodoo into ceremonial magic that I use
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. It was just just a
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: different you know, I guess because I was a little
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: bit of I guess I guess a chaos magician in
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: a sense where I did incorporate a bunch of different things.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: I mean it's a the Limic style anyway. I mean
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: the a Limic. The Lima doesn't kind of tend to
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: pull from so many different areas. It gets like chaos anyway.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: But yeah, like there was times where just either out
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: of boredom or I was more interested in like the
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: herbs or just certain things that I would start using
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: kind of like almost like root things from Udo to
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: get into something like.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: That angelica root uh, saffron. And the thing about it, Uh,
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: you got to go through the graveyard, collect to collect dirt,
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: put it in a jar. And that's that's that who tradition.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: And you have to constantly, Yeah, you have washed. You
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: have to wash yourself to the spirit. There's something called
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: shadow babs. You got to go into shadows and act
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: like you wash yourself. But you got to have this
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: blue light like you got to have these purple or
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: blue lights. It's just crazy, it's crazy.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 3: Well, and that I was gonna say, I want to
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 3: hear more about that sometime on. It's very interesting.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, uh.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 7: The priestesses in the ritual that I had, they were
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 7: all initiated into this uh uh you know priests class, right,
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 7: and they were the ones specifically to get the ridden
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 7: by the spirits, right, and so everybody else is there
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 7: participating beforehand, but then it was specifically them that would get.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 6: The possessions during the ritual, right, I think in better favor.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 7: Right, if you're one of the people, right, if you're
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 7: one of the people possessed by one of these good spirits,
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 7: you're you're definitely in for more wealth and more prosperity
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 7: in the year to come.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: That's so I went through a Bimba ceremony for my
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: head and ephis show, see you know shows is the
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: only arisha that crosses from the African continent to the
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: Native American pantheons because guess what he wears the jag war,
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: the what you call it the sash war. He's the
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: hunter and the great hunter, and he says when he
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: shoots his arrow, he never misses. Yeah. The mythology with
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: him is is that he's he's in the forest hunting quail.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: He has some quail at home that he hunted earlier.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: His mother comes to his home, sees the quail and says,
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna cook this for my son. She takes the
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: quail back to her house. He comes home, his quill's gone.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: He's like, where the fuck is my quill. He goes
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: in the village. He kiss a priestess and says, I
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: want you to find my quill. The priestess doesn't tell
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: him that his mother took it. So he shoots an
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: arrow into the sky, say made this kill whoever took
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: my quaill? Because his mother. So the analogy is this
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: is how the black American is separated from the African continent,
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: being separated from his mother. And that's representative of a show.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 3: See oh dude, the.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 7: Legend of Jacob and Esau, where he's trading. You know,
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 7: his mother encourages Jacob to swap his birthright for a
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 7: bowl of mental suit right, and you've got the great
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 7: hunter character in Esau, you know, coming home. Apparently he
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 7: was hunting, but he didn't have anything to show for
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 7: it that was supposed to.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: Brought.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 3: He brought the skins of Nimrod back with him, which
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 3: were the skins of Adam. Going back to the.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: Nimrod is an archetype of Shelsi because they're both like
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: great hunters.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 3: Hark archetype. Who's the other great hunter?
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was like the first archetype kind of if
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 4: you go back to Sumer, who was that in summer?
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 4: Not Ninerta can't say yeah, ye eldest son of and
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 4: Leo or El. I think yeah, well yeah yeah.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 3: But that Nimrod, you know, I go deep into Nimrod,
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 3: and that ties in with Osiris, that ties in with
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 3: a Donnis, ties in with the Freemasons, the founding of
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 3: the Freemasons. Nimrod was the first Freemason, the maker of bricks.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 3: You know, it's it's a deep subject when you especially
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 3: when you look at these secret societies in Haiti in
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 3: regard to their Masonic signs and symbols that have been
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 3: documented that are very similar to Masonic procedures and how
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 3: they operate the lodge and et cetera, et cetera.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: I was told that Mars, there's a secret society of
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: those magical orders that meet up on astral planes and
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: like people come to them to get.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: Like secret chiefs.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: I'll call alan As Greenfield right now on the phone.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: No, I've heard of all that stuff. I mean he
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: was in the Oto as well, So I mean, I
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: don't worry like.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: Getting But what I was saying, Oh, I think Trump
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: is a is an archetype of Nimrod. Yeah, because I've
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: been I don't know why, I have a gift for
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: seeing similism. Have you been seeing like the connection to
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: the Hunter all year, like Hunter Biden. You had the
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: Hunter Biden and you got all these Hunter movies coming out.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: Predators is dropped. You know, he's a Hunter. And Trump
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: is building this three hundred dollars ballroom supposed to be
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: a Solomon's temple. The model the blueprint is exactly the
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: the Solomon's temple model in his blueprint.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 3: So with the inner and the outer and the sanctum.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 3: Is he going to put his arc in there?
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: His goal.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 3: And and Alago.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 5: I heard rumors is going to be a data center.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is like baseball Israel's data center or something
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a designer of them that are I don't know,
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's limited to Israel, but yeah, all
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 5: over the world, these data centers are popping up in
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 5: the same measurement kind of.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: That's like put it beneath it, right.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: But if you look at the the uh juxposition of
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 3: the temples, how the temples were laid out, and compare
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 3: those to computer chips, and you start to see larger
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: cosmic computers being condensed down in size. You just have
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 3: to wonder what a lot of these ancient temples, to
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 3: these different energetic forces were actually doing.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: One more referenced. One more reference to Trump and voodoo.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: You notice when he got inaugurated his wife Millenia, who
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: turned six hundred and sixty six muscle Halloween. It has
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: there's some weird shitbul Halloween. But she was wearing the
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: Legba outfit.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: Oh that's I thought you saw it? No, no, no, no, yes, yes,
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: yes I thought that.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that that you could pull up.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: Or that They had this black lady wearing a similar
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: hat as a boat hat. They call it the boat hat.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: And she had on the hat and the black woman
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: I think she's Haitian too, I believe, but she was.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: They had a black woman speaking and then she came
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: up with the hat and I was like, this looks
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: like is shue That looked like a leg bo. When
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: I was looking at it was crazy seeing that. I
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: don't know if there's a picture of it, but I
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: pointed it out on my Patreon and looked at it all.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: Right, did anybody else have anything they wanted to add
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: before we wrap it up?
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 6: Well, I wanted to add something about the data centers.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah, these data centers are all going to be under ground,
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 7: underground machinery that's supposed to control our lives. Think about
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 7: that for a second, and in relationship to the underworld
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 7: and all the rest of this other stuff that we're
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 7: talking about. So you know, when you're having these LSD
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 7: not LSD, the five me O d m T trips,
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 7: you're seeing machinery everywhere right right and controlling Dude.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 4: You know, I had gotten this back to I think
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 4: it was I remember four, four or five years ago.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 4: Well that was a different tooth this one back here.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 4: They put me under using ketamine. And I don't know
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 4: if y'all have heard this, but there's a theory that
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 4: all the all all these tech guys are on this ketmine.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 4: They're all connecting with the same spirit, the same entity.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 4: And so when I was under on the ketamine, I
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 4: have been watching The Wire at the time, and the
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 4: sopranos like like like together, but when I got bored
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 4: to one, I'd go to the other. And so I
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 4: was like in this chair watching The Wire and there's
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 4: this like machine whirling around me. I didn't know what
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 4: it was, but everything in there was just fucking mechanical,
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 4: and I was like.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 3: It looks like a AIM.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, I was good, but like there were no
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 4: like you know, you know, maybe it was a giant entity.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know, kenemine entity, wheels and wheels, and they.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 4: Just did it intraveniously, which I was far out and like, yeah,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 4: that's thirty seconds, man, You're yeah.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 3: Way better than being put under on any.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: You know can drink it.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 3: You can use it as a nasal spray.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, therapeutic.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 3: Actually I did kill Matthew Perry.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's because he mixed it with UH and orphinebox,
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 4: which which will kill you.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 3: If he makes that, we'll stop that box that will
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 3: kill you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: At the end of the movie, it's a thread that
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 5: comes together this occult and political UH relationship right where
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 5: he's the bad guy forgive me, I forget his name,
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 5: is about to practice the final ritual, but the Ohan
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 5: is in the middle of the revolution and has overthrown
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 5: his power, right, so that that a cult and government
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 5: connections just right there. Oh I was I was saying.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 5: I was saying how the relationship between the occult and
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 5: government is a thread that kind of is revealed in
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 5: the end of the movie where the bad guy is
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 5: about to do his main final ritual on the on
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 5: the divine feminine of the film, and the government is
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 5: overthrown and he loses his power, right, So this like
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 5: intimacy between the magic and the magic of controlling the
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 5: mind that his government is right there.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 3: And the book goes into detail, pretty extensive detail about
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 3: the governmental bodies being controlled by the different secret societies
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 3: and that, I mean, there was a whole there's all
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 3: this talk that when the French were there, that everybody
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 3: was afraid all the time that they were going to
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 3: get something in their food or in their water, and
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 3: it was just this and basically they slowly drove them
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 3: out and and got their own people in, yeah, I know,
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 3: and controlled it through the use of these neurological drugs.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 4: Definitely great idea for a show, by the way, guys, uh,
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 4: we could maybe do some research urch into different seeing
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 4: people see, seeing what people interact with maybe on if
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 4: if there's a certain certain entity for a certain drug. Maybe,
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 4: I don't know, it sounds interesting to me. Maybe I'll
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 4: do that, Deep Divenam.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 7: If you have any shadow people's story, send it to
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  Speaker 7: Headless Giant Podcast at gmail dot com.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: I can tell you. I can tell you stories of
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: seeing people high on key. I gotta I'll tell that.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 2: Remind me next week. I'll tell you that ship a
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: wild story, got it? Oh, yeah, thankfully.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 5: It's like old friend of mine who was probably high,
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 5: was relating to me that each continent has a uh
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 5: mother psychedelic. I forget the entirety of them all, but
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 5: this is the one for I don't know what God
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 5: or goddess. They are related too many.
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: I've done it, boga. Have you ever ever done changa?
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 3: I've heard of both of them.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: Very rare. It's a recipe. You gotta make, you gotta
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: make it. Well, somebody, No, it's not chaga.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 4: My brother in law went down to Peru, uh and
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 4: it was with some shamans and drink ayahuasca.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 1: And oh, I don't know, but yeah, it's chan.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 3: Incredible.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So you got to smoke it. Uh, it's mess route.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: That's the d m T. You extract the method TRUP
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: with me out of the MIMA route. You mix it
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: with jazmine, sacred blue, lotus, flower rose, colindula, and it's
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: one and I'm missing, and then you put it in
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: a water bomb and you hit it one time.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: See. I did some stupid shit the first time in
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 1: the showman called me. It was a fucking stupid fucker.
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: But I did it right the second time. And let
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 1: me tell you something I saw. You know how you
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: look at the constellations and it makes like figures of people,
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: you know, the star I mean, you look at the
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: constellations of stars make like Yeah, I saw like real
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 1: marching people made of stars going up a whining stair
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 1: away and I was knocked out in the form for like.
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 3: I've had a similar experience so with d MT in
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 3: regard to seeing what appeared to be almost a tree
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 3: of life ascending into the like I had dimensional you know,
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 3: a view of dimensional space that I could see into
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 3: the levels moving. Yeah, yeah, similar type.
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah dope show yeah, hell yeah a.
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 3: Super banger.
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I missed the six earlier. I was like funk,
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 2: I was too slow on it. Uh the child.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 10: Alex Jones Jones, Yeah, I thought that was like the
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 10: bad guy from Inspector Gadget for a second, Yo, Annie,
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 10: why don't you let everybody know what they can find
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 10: all your stuff again real quick before we wrap it up.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys can check me out on YouTube at
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  Speaker 2: Listen. Thank you very much, Srein. I really appreciate you
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 2: coming on the show and sharing all your stuff with us.
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 2: That's what's up, man.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you all.
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  Speaker 9: Man.
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 1: This is every time I'll come here. I have a
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  Speaker 1: great time.
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  Speaker 8: Man.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: You guys have my information.
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you appreciate that. And Jules, my man,
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 2: what is going on, sir man?
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 3: This was a banger of an episode. Guys. Yeah, I
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 3: was gonna say.
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 4: If I have anything that I'm doing this weekend, I
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 4: may do my part two on the Green Man, or
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 4: maybe if I have time, we'll do the rust at
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 4: Gods Me Me and Headless. But I am doing Esotery
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 4: book review in the morning, me Subliminal messager in season
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 4: of the Rat and Nick may be there. Oh yeah,
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 4: and I'll send Yeah, I'll send the invite out. But
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 4: we got that Every Saturday, guys, you go over to
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• 2:02:55
  Speaker 3: We do exclusive watch parties over there that We just
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 3: did a huge.
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 4: Like months long analysis on Twin Peaks all three seasons
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 4: plus Firewalk with me still talking about it.
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 3: But it's fun time. It was fun. Yeah.
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 4: You get a sticker pack, you get the links to
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  Speaker 4: my episode from last weekend with Stein from the Grey
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 4: Horn Pagan's podcast. It was a super banger. And yeah,
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 4: oh I went on Inquiries of Reality this past week,
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 4: so I'll be putting that out this this weekend for everybody.
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 4: So got out Chain coming on no, and Doc is
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 4: coming on yes, or maybe I'm going on his show.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 4: We booked a few shows together, so we'll be doing
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 4: some back and forth. A lot of shows coming this
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 4: next uh yeah, this next month, guys, a lot of shows,
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 4: Cold of Conspiracy, the Veritas Road, Strange Brew, Doc Dana
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 4: d Dog just booked the show with me, so it's
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 4: gonna be gonna be fun anyway.
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's it. No more plugs. I could do more, but.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 2: Go uh all right, and oh well, thank you very much.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 2: So sorry you had me looking at my calendar to
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 2: check what I was doing, so I got yeah, thank
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 2: you though, sir and Ethan go ahead, man, let everybody
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 2: know where they can fund you.
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 5: That was awesome. Thank you guys so much. Shawnie, great
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 5: to talk with you and me Youthan Indigo Smith on
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 5: the social media and I appreciate people reaching out with communication,
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 5: so feel free and uh yeah, I'm working on a
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 5: couple of articles. One one about Taichi, one about neuro
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 5: linguistic programming of leaders, and uh yeah, trying to trying
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 5: to write frequently, so appreciate everyone checking me out.
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I appreciate you coming on with
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 2: man and Robbie Mars. Thank you very much so for
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 2: coming on. I really appreciate you.
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: Mane.
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. I always enjoy coming on. It's always such
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 3: a great crew. It's good hanging out, meeting you, Annie Jewels.
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 3: Always good to see Ethan Headless. Yeah, yeah, let me know,
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 3: let me know. I'm just here for them, just doing art,
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 3: doing art now, so I'm at home. But if you
• 2:05:43
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  Speaker 3: and that'll pull up my website, my Etsy with all
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  Speaker 3: lot of stuff for bands and festivals and miscellaneous mom
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 3: and pops and have the metamind Cast, which is my podcast,
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 3: as well as all of my social media. And I
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 3: just did a show with Shane as well on Inquirers
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 3: of Our Reality, on the Rise of Nimrod and then
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 3: what else. Recently, I just did one with Craig from
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 3: thirty three Hurtz Media on the UH. But anyways, I'm yeah,
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 3: go check out my stuff. It's out there and always
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 3: a fun time. Thanks for having me on.
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 2: Nick Hell yeah, of course, man, no, thank you for
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 2: coming on my man, Headless Giant. What is going on?
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 2: So please let everybody know where they can find your
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 2: stuff and remind them about the shows any muted.
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, got lots of shows, lots of shows. I forgot
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 3: about our show Headless, My bad dude. Right Rustic God.
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 6: Well, Rustic Gods.
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we're gonna do the folet Gods next, So that's
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 7: gonna be really.
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 3: Maybe this weekend if Headless is free, if if we
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 3: can get it.
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 6: Set up, that would be just all right.
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 7: So you can find me on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 7: at the Headless Giant. And also if you like alchemy,
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 7: we're doing Alchemy Mondays.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 6: Definitely check that out. It's gonna be a good time.
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 7: I've got the Trialogues on Sunday Mornings with Ethan and Ricardo,
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 7: and I've got the Headless's Magical mail Bag on Thursday nights.
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 7: If you have any stories about any of these shadow
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 7: people or anything associated with that, hit me up at
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 7: Headless Giant Podcast at gmail dot com and I.
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 1: Will read them.
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 6: So we need more, yes, get them.
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 2: In definitely if you if you check in next week,
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 2: you'll get to hear me tell a drug dealing story
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 2: of watching people not too much special k, so it
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 2: would be very interesting.
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, dude, I can give you some stories, maybe.
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 2: Real quick, and this is all I'll say. I watched
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: the dude sniff at half a bottle of ketamine at
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 2: once part do that motherfucker. It was stuck there for
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 2: a minute. I was like, Yo, why did you do
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 2: this to me?
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 3: Too?
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 2: All right? But that's enough. Yeah, yeah, and real quick,
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 2: just to let everybody know too, if anybody even listening anymore,
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 2: just real quick. For this weekend, I'm pretty sure I
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 2: think I'm going live with all these people. But Sunday
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 2: I do have no Tomorrow, we got somebody on for
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 2: Enigma Enigma Seeker for Atlantis tonight at eight o'clock, and
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 2: then yeah, that should be really interesting because he has
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 2: a totally different take. He says, it's a different take
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 2: than the two guests that I've had on for it.
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 2: So I'm very open to it because I really don't.
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 2: I don't have like a I don't the idea of
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 2: Atlantis interests me.
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 3: It's just I have no very scattered on it.
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't make it. I'll listen to anything with
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 2: that really, I have some questions. And then uh, Sunday,
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 2: I got Peter Mark Adams, interesting guy, pretty intelligent dude
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 2: coming off a mythrus and that was actually headless. I
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 2: found that fucking guest to us.
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 3: I'll be there for that.
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 2: And then uh, at five o'clock, I do have Solomon
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 2: Pical for my in astrology, and he does he's gonna
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 2: be making some announcement to like something that he's doing
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 2: on his channel that he found he thinks some tie
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 2: to Epstein and that shit on his island to actually
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 2: mine astrology shit, So something to do with that. Yeah,
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 2: he was gonna mention that on the show for a
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 2: little bit, but yeah, I got him coming on Sunday.
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I got a couple of guests this weekend,
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 2: keep it interesting. But uh yeah, thank you everybody who
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 2: came on again.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: That was wild.
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 2: That was fun. It was a lot of shit and
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 2: it's better than I expected it. So yeah, thank you
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 2: all and everybody in the chat. That's what's up. I
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 2: can see everybody else's comments from all the other channels.
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 2: That was some cool shit there, definitely, and I appreciate
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 2: everybody again that's on the other channels. I appreciate all
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 2: you jumping on and commenting as well. And that's the
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 2: end of another Occult Rejects and until the next one,
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 2: everybody be well later