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The Importance of Faith and Living a Transformed Life · That KEVIN Show

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  Speaker 1: Somewhere in the bowels of the city that never sleeps kevin.
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  Speaker 2: We do have some breaking news as we head into
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  Speaker 2: the weekend. And this is kind of interesting because once again,
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  Speaker 2: you have like the Supreme Court And then you've got
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  Speaker 2: Katani Brown Jackson, the one justice that is just literally
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  Speaker 2: in Cuckooville most of the time. She's like the justice
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  Speaker 2: on the court that is the equivalent of what the
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  Speaker 2: Ninth Circuit used to be. Used to be all of
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  Speaker 2: the crazy, nonsensical decisions that would ever get decided would
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  Speaker 2: always come from the Ninth Circuit because it was dominated
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  Speaker 2: by justices that were put on. First of all, it
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  Speaker 2: has like 27 justices. And it was dominated for a
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  Speaker 2: long time by a single viewpoint that was pretty counter
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  Speaker 2: to anything resembling constitutionality or common sense. But Supreme Court
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  Speaker 2: Justice Katani Brown Jackson was the lone public dissenter in
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  Speaker 2: a decision allowing New Hampshire to block the use of
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  Speaker 2: student ID cards in the upcoming midterm elections. Other justices
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  Speaker 2: on the court cited the longstanding precedent that that lower
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  Speaker 2: federal courts should ordinarily not alter the election rules on
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  Speaker 2: the eve of an election, and said that lower courts
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  Speaker 2: failed to argue that the specific case in New Hampshire
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  Speaker 2: warranted an exception to the tradition. However, Jackson argued the
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  Speaker 2: proximity to an election should not get in the way
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  Speaker 2: of properly applying the law. She said, I respectfully dissent
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  Speaker 2: because even, and perhaps especially when an election is looming,
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  Speaker 2: I would not disturb a clearly justifiable court order issued
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  Speaker 2: to ensure that public receives accurate information about a state's
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  Speaker 2: electoral processes. Here's what the argument is about, and this
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  Speaker 2: is interesting. The underlying dispute stems from a law signed
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  Speaker 2: in April that went into effect in June, striking student
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  Speaker 2: IDs from the list of forms of identification that election
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  Speaker 2: officials can accept when an individual requests a ballot. A
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  Speaker 2: voting rights group sued New Hampshire on the grounds that
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  Speaker 2: the law illegally discriminated against young voters by making it
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  Speaker 2: more difficult for them to vote.
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  Speaker 8: Not.
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  Speaker 2: New Hampshire Secretary of State David Scanlon then issued guidance
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  Speaker 2: saying that the student IDs could not be used to
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  Speaker 2: establish voter identity, even as supporting evidence under the state's
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  Speaker 2: alternative verification procedures. A district judge blocked that portion of
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  Speaker 2: the guidance, arguing it went beyond the scope of the
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  Speaker 2: law itself, which only removed student IDs from the list
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  Speaker 2: of expressly accepted forms. Among the supporters of the guidance
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  Speaker 2: was the Republican National Committee. While Jackson was the lone
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  Speaker 2: public dissenter, it is possible that other justices dissented as well,
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  Speaker 2: but opted to not be named on the court order.
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  Speaker 2: During her roughly four years on the Supreme Court, Jackson
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  Speaker 2: has broken from the rest of her colleagues in areas
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  Speaker 2: such as campaign finance, immigration, and congressional MAP litigations. In 2023,
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  Speaker 2: she was the lone dissenter in an 8-1 ruling allowing
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  Speaker 2: a concrete company to sue striking union workers. She also
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  Speaker 2: stood alone in May 2026, involving federal prisoners seeking to
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  Speaker 2: challenge their convictions through compassionate release. New Hampshire is holding
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  Speaker 2: a handful of close races on Election Day, putting some
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  Speaker 2: weight behind the court's decisions. According to the power rankings,
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  Speaker 2: the state's Senate race... leans Democratic, meaning that liberals have
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  Speaker 2: a slight advantage in a race that could control Congress.
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  Speaker 2: The state's governor's race, meanwhile, is rated as likely going
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  Speaker 2: to the GOP. College students typically favor the Democratic Party,
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  Speaker 2: although it is unclear how many voters will be affected
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  Speaker 2: by the court's ruling. Friends, what is not said in
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  Speaker 2: this story, the copy of this news story, that I
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  Speaker 2: think needs to be said, is that it is painfully
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  Speaker 2: obvious that college students do not require, are not required
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  Speaker 2: to be citizens of the country in order to enroll
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  Speaker 2: in a university. If you're here on a visa, if
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  Speaker 2: you've come here and you've been living in the shadows,
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  Speaker 2: but you got enrolled, there's all kinds of ways that
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  Speaker 2: you can verify citizenship and residency, but a college ID
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  Speaker 2: is not ideal.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 2: And I know this because I went to a school
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  Speaker 2: that was fairly international in flavor. It was a theological
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  Speaker 2: school in the Chicago area. And we had a ton
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  Speaker 2: of students that were from other countries that all had
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  Speaker 2: student IDs, but none of them should have been allowed
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  Speaker 2: to vote in an election involving U.S.
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  Speaker 6: Citizens.
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  Speaker 2: Here's my question. And I want an answer to this.
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  Speaker 2: And it doesn't seem like anybody's willing to give it.
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  Speaker 6: But why....
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  Speaker 2: Is that side of the policy discussion, the Katani Brown Jackson,
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  Speaker 2: the Chuck Schumer, the Hakeem Jeffries, all these guys, why
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  Speaker 2: is that side fighting so hard to not have secure elections?
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  Speaker 2: You can have fraud easily be committed if you have
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  Speaker 2: lax enforcement of what documents are allowed to prove citizenship.
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  Speaker 2: Anybody and their mother-in-law can see that for what it's
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  Speaker 2: worth on paper. It makes total sense.
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  Speaker 6: If I can.
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  Speaker 2: Use a utility bill to say that I'm an American citizen. Well, no,
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  Speaker 2: the utility bill might say that I live in an
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  Speaker 2: address that has nothing to do with my citizenship.
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  Speaker 6: You know what does? A birth certificate? A passport? That's
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  Speaker 6: about it.
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  Speaker 2: If you're not a citizen, you're not allowed to vote.
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  Speaker 2: And you should not be allowed to. If you're not
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  Speaker 2: a citizen, you haven't taken an oath of loyalty to
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  Speaker 2: our country. If you're not a citizen, you haven't said
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  Speaker 2: that you're one of us. If you have come here
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  Speaker 2: and lived off of the benefit of our country, lucky
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  Speaker 2: for you, great for you. But you have not taken
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  Speaker 2: the step to become the citizen. And voting is not
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  Speaker 2: a human right. It is a citizen's right. And it
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  Speaker 2: should be that way. We should not have foreign citizens,
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  Speaker 2: citizens of foreign countries, other countries other than our own,
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  Speaker 2: We should not have them determining America's self-determination. That Katani
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  Speaker 2: Brown Jackson is wholly misguided or attempting to misguide in
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  Speaker 2: her position on this just speaks again to the utter
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  Speaker 2: silliness that her nomination to the court ever represented. She
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  Speaker 2: could not tell you how to define a woman.
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  Speaker 6: She couldn't.
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  Speaker 2: She said it was above her pay grade. Sorry, my
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  Speaker 2: sixth grade daughter can very easily define what a woman
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  Speaker 2: is as compared to her brothers, who can also, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, identify and define a woman properly. It's this
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  Speaker 2: essence of trying to appear wise and but really speaking foolishness,
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  Speaker 2: that is Katani Brown-Jackson's problem. When she should just tell
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  Speaker 2: the truth. Tell the truth. The truth will set you free.
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  Speaker 2: Kevin McCullough coming right back.
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  Speaker 9: Music Here he is from New York.
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  Speaker 6: That Kevin. Kevin McCullough. All right, welcome back. It's Friday.
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  Speaker 2: And as you know, here at the beginning of the show,
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  Speaker 2: we love to put everything, we just hit the brakes
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  Speaker 2: on everything. Say, hold on a second. I know there's
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  Speaker 2: an election. I know there's issues and all kinds of
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  Speaker 2: other stuff that's out there. But right now, the most
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  Speaker 2: important thing we can do is ask the question, how
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  Speaker 2: are we supposed to live as Christians in this culture,
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  Speaker 2: in this moment? And that's what we do at this
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  Speaker 2: point in the show every day. Pastor Rod Caesar, welcome.
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  Speaker 2: The lead pastor at Foundation Church in New York and
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  Speaker 2: his father, Bishop Roderick Caesar, rejoin us as they have,
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  Speaker 2: for the first time ever on How Do We Live,
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  Speaker 2: given us a two-for-one all week long, and it's been
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  Speaker 2: such a joy. And Rod, you focused our thoughts this
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  Speaker 2: week on Romans chapter 12, verse 2 verses. We talked
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  Speaker 2: about what it means to live the transformed life by
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  Speaker 2: being surrendered, by walking in faith. by walking in alignment
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  Speaker 2: with God, which is, is that a fancy phrase for obedience?
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  Speaker 2: It sounds like it's a fancy phrase for obedience, but
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of what I took away from that. And
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  Speaker 2: then yesterday walking in renewal, but today there's a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of fun in this one because it's the hope
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  Speaker 2: that all of it brings about, which is to walk
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  Speaker 2: in victory.
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  Speaker 6: Give us your thoughts.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, thank you, Kevin, for just setting it up. I'm
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  Speaker 10: grateful and I know my father as well. Grateful to
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  Speaker 10: have been with you throughout this week. Walking in victory
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  Speaker 10: is extremely important, especially for the life of the believer
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  Speaker 10: to understand that through all of the trials, through all
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  Speaker 10: of the difficulties, through all of the frustrations, through all of.
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  Speaker 7: Just the negativity that we may face.
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  Speaker 10: And go through from day to day through the valleys
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  Speaker 10: that we have to travel through, that as we get
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  Speaker 10: to the mountaintops and then back down to the valleys
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  Speaker 10: and the difficult things that take place in life, there
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  Speaker 10: is victory on the other side. victory in Jesus, victory
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  Speaker 10: in understanding that we live transformed.
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  Speaker 7: We walk transformed. We walk with a renewed and transformed mind.
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  Speaker 10: So we are not stuck on the difficult things that
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  Speaker 10: take place while they exist. While we go through them,
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  Speaker 10: we don't go through them with a victim mindset. We
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  Speaker 10: go through them with a victor mindset, knowing that we
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  Speaker 10: have victory through the shed blood and the resurrection of
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  Speaker 10: Jesus Christ. And We understand, as Paul says, we're seated
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  Speaker 10: in heavenly places. There's an already but not yet that
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  Speaker 10: takes place. We have a hope to look forward to
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  Speaker 10: and a hope that we can walk in. And so
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  Speaker 10: that's the result of having a transformed mind is being
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  Speaker 10: able to walk through life victorious no matter what we face.
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  Speaker 6: I love that.
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  Speaker 8: And I would say it's about being an overcomer. Walking
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  Speaker 8: in victory means daily overcoming the battles of life. And
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  Speaker 8: we do it not with our own strength, but with
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  Speaker 8: the strength of God, with the wisdom of God, the
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  Speaker 8: power of God, the might of God. Knowing that God
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  Speaker 8: is with us and God is for us, knowing that
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  Speaker 8: he's ordered our steps, knowing that the angels of the
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  Speaker 8: Lord encamp around about us, makes us know that we
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  Speaker 8: can walk in victory each and every day if we
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  Speaker 8: put our trust, our confidence, and our wisdom in God's
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  Speaker 8: hands and allow him to orchestrate the event. Morning by morning,
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  Speaker 8: new mercies I see, the songwriter said. And we have
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  Speaker 8: to recognize the importance of taking it one day at
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  Speaker 8: a time, one breath at a time. Not trying to
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  Speaker 8: climb the furthest mountain, but climbing the mountain that's here,
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  Speaker 8: which prepares us for the mountain further up the road.
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  Speaker 8: And in doing that, we can walk in victory each
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  Speaker 8: and every day, triumphantly.
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  Speaker 2: I love that observation, Bishop. And it reminds me again,
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned this earlier in the week, but Psalm 27,
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  Speaker 2: the psalmist instructs the reader, the hearer, to fear not.
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  Speaker 2: And if you go into the Hebrew, the expression that
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  Speaker 2: he uses there is kind of like what we would
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  Speaker 2: say today, like, we just don't do fear. And the
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  Speaker 2: reason that we don't do fear is why, as it's
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  Speaker 2: repetitively mentioned throughout all of Scripture, cover to cover, don't fear,
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  Speaker 2: don't fear, fear not, fear not, don't be afraid, do this.
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  Speaker 2: The reason that he always parallels with that instruction, because
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  Speaker 2: I am with you. I am with you. I am
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  Speaker 2: with you. I am with you. God is with us.
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  Speaker 2: He's ever present. And I think as you're talking about
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  Speaker 2: climbing the mountain, and I think about as you're talking
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  Speaker 2: about overcoming, I think there's only one of two outcomes.
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  Speaker 2: You can surrender to fear and give up, or you
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  Speaker 2: can know that he's with you and rely upon him
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  Speaker 2: to go through it and overcome it. And I love
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  Speaker 2: the fact that this is where we get to end
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  Speaker 2: this week because it kind of tells us that the
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  Speaker 2: surrender is that the faith, that the obedience, that the
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  Speaker 2: attempting to bring about renewal, it's all worth it. Because
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, God's a promise keeper.
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  Speaker 2: He keeps his word to us, no?
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  Speaker 7: Amen, amen, yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely. And we walk by faith. The key lesson that
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  Speaker 8: we have to learn each and every day is that
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  Speaker 8: it's a walk of faith. We have a tendency to
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  Speaker 8: rely on our five senses for everything. And when we
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  Speaker 8: do that, we defeat the purposes of God because God
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  Speaker 8: is above these five senses.
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  Speaker 6: No, it's true.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, and it's also kind of a win-win situation.
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  Speaker 11: Oh, sorry, go ahead, go ahead.
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  Speaker 8: No, no, I'm done.
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  Speaker 10: No, I was saying it's kind of a win-win situation
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  Speaker 10: with the victory mindset because it truly is to be
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  Speaker 10: transformed by the renewing of your mind because we have
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  Speaker 10: to think of our circumstances differently.
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  Speaker 7: As Paul writes, to live is Christ, to die is gain.
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  Speaker 10: You know, he's saying, I want to be able to
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  Speaker 10: stay here and do ministry a bit longer.
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  Speaker 7: And if I do that, that's great, you know, to
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  Speaker 7: live is Christ. But if the alternate happens, if I
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  Speaker 7: am taken from this earth to.
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  Speaker 10: Die is gain, that is the focal point of a
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  Speaker 10: transformed mindset to realize, listen, I can stay here and
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  Speaker 10: do what the Lord's called me to do. I can
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  Speaker 10: stay here and go through the things that I'm called
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  Speaker 10: to go through, the good things and the difficult things.
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  Speaker 10: And I know how to be content because I can
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  Speaker 10: do all things through Christ. But then also at the
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  Speaker 10: end of the day, when I close my eyes in
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  Speaker 10: this life and open them in eternity, I know I
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  Speaker 10: have gained Christ. So it's a win-win situation for the
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  Speaker 10: life of the believer. And that is really everything that
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  Speaker 10: the transformed mind can continue to rest on. Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, and that reminds me of a song that we
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  Speaker 8: sang years ago. Turn your eyes upon Jesus. Look full
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  Speaker 8: in his wonderful face. And the things of the earth
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  Speaker 8: will grow strangely dim in the light of his glory
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  Speaker 8: and his grace. That's really what we have to do.
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  Speaker 8: We have to have a new vision.
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  Speaker 2: You're hitting me on something extremely personal. You don't even
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  Speaker 2: realize it. But when I was in high school, I
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  Speaker 2: was a junior. My mom had been diagnosed with cancer
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  Speaker 2: and had had it for two years, and we lost
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  Speaker 2: her December 7th, 1987. She was born July of 1947,
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  Speaker 2: so she lived 40 years, battled cancer for two years.
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  Speaker 2: We had a number of people tell her that if
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  Speaker 2: she was more godly, if she had more faith, if
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  Speaker 2: she just believed more, that the cancer would be gone.
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  Speaker 2: And Turn Your Eyes Upon Jesus was her favorite song, Bishop.
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  Speaker 2: And the night, when she was going down the final
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  Speaker 2: few weeks that she was with us, we got called
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  Speaker 2: from the hospice several times.
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  Speaker 6: Tonight's the night. Bring everybody.
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  Speaker 2: And that happened probably six times. The woman just would not,
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  Speaker 2: she just did not want to leave. She was going
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  Speaker 2: to fight to the end. But I remember the night
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  Speaker 2: that she didn't. passed from this life into the next,
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  Speaker 2: that we sang that song together. And she, one of
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  Speaker 2: the things that she just kind of whispered in my
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  Speaker 2: ear in those final weeks was, victory is not what
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  Speaker 2: everybody else thinks it is. I will be healed. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be healed the moment that I'm in God's presence.
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  Speaker 2: And that's always stuck with me that victory sometimes to
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  Speaker 2: our eyes looks like one thing. And so often in
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  Speaker 2: God's economy, it looks like something else.
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  Speaker 8: Quite true. It's our perspective.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: The brilliance of a diamond, the brilliance of a diamond
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  Speaker 8: changes when you move from one location to the next,
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  Speaker 8: because the light goes into the diamond and refracts and
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  Speaker 8: comes back out. And the beauty and the brilliance of
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  Speaker 8: the diamond changes. changes and intensifies when you move it
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  Speaker 8: or you twist it turn it around in the light
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  Speaker 8: and that's the way our lives are from different perspectives
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  Speaker 8: in life we shine brighter and brighter and the closer
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  Speaker 8: you get to heaven the brighter the light should shine
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  Speaker 8: if you've been walking in obedience and submission to the
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  Speaker 8: will of god yeah and the one thing that we
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  Speaker 8: have to learn kevin the one thing we have to
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  Speaker 8: learn is that god is sovereign His plan is perfect.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: And even if we don't understand it, it's still perfect
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  Speaker 8: because he's god and in him there's no shadow of
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  Speaker 8: turning there's no doubt yeah there's no indecisiveness there's no
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  Speaker 8: imperfection everything he does as.
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  Speaker 2: Well well that's where we're going to bring this discussion
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  Speaker 2: to a close this week uh a transformed life by
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  Speaker 2: walking surrendered by walking by faith by walking in alignment
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  Speaker 2: by walking in renewal and walking in victory. Pastor Rod,
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  Speaker 2: thank you for instigating this discussion. And Bishop, thank you
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  Speaker 2: for having it with us. Bishop, I'm going to ask
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  Speaker 2: you to stick around just a few minutes more because
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  Speaker 2: I want to ask you some things. As you're celebrating
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  Speaker 2: your 80th birthday and doing these bus tours and having
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  Speaker 2: fun in the next couple of weeks, it struck me
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  Speaker 2: last night that I want to ask you a few
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  Speaker 2: questions about a life lived in ministry. And we'll do
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  Speaker 2: that on the other side of this break.
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  Speaker 6: Don't go anywhere.
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  Speaker 13: Stick around for more of That Kevin next.
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  Speaker 14: Here he is from New York.
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  Speaker 6: That Kevin.
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  Speaker 2: Kevin McCullough. Kevin McCullough, glad to have you with us.
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  Speaker 2: It's the Friday edition. And I don't often get to
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  Speaker 2: do this, but sometimes with people that have had massive
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  Speaker 2: impact on my life, when I do get a chance
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  Speaker 2: to sit down and interview them, sometimes I like to
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  Speaker 2: ask them five very specific questions. So Bishop Roderick Caesar
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  Speaker 2: and his son Rod are still with us. We just
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  Speaker 2: finished up How Do We Live for the Week. But Bishop,
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  Speaker 2: as I reflect upon your ministry in my life, It's been, well,
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  Speaker 2: 25 years or so that you've.
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  Speaker 6: Been impacting me.
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  Speaker 2: And as you have retired from formal ministry in the
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  Speaker 2: sense of being the lead pastor at your church, you're
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  Speaker 2: still very, very busy. And you've encouraged a handoff to
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  Speaker 2: the next generation there at Foundation. And I want to
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  Speaker 2: ask you a few things. So here's the first one.
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  Speaker 2: We live in a generation where visibility and influence and
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  Speaker 2: social media are can oftentimes be mistaken for spiritual authority.
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  Speaker 2: From your perspective, having lived the life you've lived, how
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  Speaker 2: does a young man or woman distinguish between genuinely being
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  Speaker 2: called by God to pastor or simply being attracted to
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  Speaker 2: the platform of what ministry looks like? From your perspective.
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  Speaker 8: From my perspective, it's important to get a word from
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  Speaker 8: the Lord.
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  Speaker 14: Hmm.
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  Speaker 8: We mistake the popular voice of the crowd to be
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  Speaker 8: the voice of the Lord. And we make a mistake
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  Speaker 8: when we do that because his ways are not our ways.
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  Speaker 8: His thoughts are not our thoughts. And we don't get
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  Speaker 8: our messages from the crowd. We get our messages when
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  Speaker 8: we're alone with God in that secret place and give
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  Speaker 8: him an opportunity to speak into our hearts and lives.
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  Speaker 8: So I am challenged by people who are called and
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  Speaker 8: commissioned and released from industry because of their popularity. It
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  Speaker 8: has a tendency to make people rely more on their
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  Speaker 8: ability than on God's ability. And many people who we
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  Speaker 8: like and we have reasons for liking them. And usually
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  Speaker 8: it's because they tell us what we want to hear.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: So I don't have a lot of confidence in that.
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  Speaker 8: And I ask, at the end of the day, do
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  Speaker 8: we have a word from the Lord? And it's surprising
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  Speaker 8: how many people have no answer for that question after
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  Speaker 8: pontificating and everything else. They have no true answer for
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  Speaker 8: that question. Do we have a word from the Lord?
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  Speaker 8: And if we don't have that word from the Lord,
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  Speaker 8: then I dismiss it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, so that's fairly... straight to the point. I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: Second question. You've seen a lot of changes in the
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  Speaker 2: church and the American culture. What do you believe your
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  Speaker 2: generation of spiritual leaders, people like yourself, must intentionally pass
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  Speaker 2: down to the next generation of pastors? And what mistakes
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  Speaker 2: should we encourage them not to repeat?
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  Speaker 8: The church is not a political institution. It's a divine
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  Speaker 8: institution called by God to lead his people and and
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  Speaker 8: to give them a foundation from which to expand ministry.
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  Speaker 8: We need to stop trying to be political pundits, and
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  Speaker 8: we need to stop trying to fit everything that happens
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  Speaker 8: in society into a scripture that accommodates our way of thinking.
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  Speaker 8: We need to understand that God is so far above
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  Speaker 8: us that it's impossible for us to have the comprehensive
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  Speaker 8: and complete mind of.
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  Speaker 7: God in any situation.
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  Speaker 8: So what we do is we Walk by faith day
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  Speaker 8: by day. We trust God. And we look for God
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  Speaker 8: not only in the marketplace, but also in the secret place.
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  Speaker 8: And there has to be a consensus of what God
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  Speaker 8: is saying. And it must agree with Scripture. If you
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  Speaker 8: can't put it in the context of Scripture, and I
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  Speaker 8: say the context of Scripture, not just extrapolating a verse
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  Speaker 8: or two to agree with your way of thinking. It
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  Speaker 8: has to be contextual. And if you put it in
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  Speaker 8: the context of Scripture... you have a more accurate picture
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  Speaker 8: of where we are, where we should be, and how
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  Speaker 8: we should get there. We can't lose sight of the
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  Speaker 8: fact that God speaks today as much as he's ever spoken.
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  Speaker 8: He's speaking very loudly today. And we only hear segments
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  Speaker 8: of what he's saying because we're only looking for segments.
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  Speaker 8: We're looking for agreement. We're not looking for truth in
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: the inward parts. We're not looking to be convicted. We're
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  Speaker 8: looking to convict. We're not looking... to be changed. We
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  Speaker 8: are looking to change. We are looking to control rather
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  Speaker 8: than to be controlled by the Spirit. And because we're
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  Speaker 8: looking in the wrong places, we don't find what we're
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  Speaker 8: looking for. Or when we do, it's the synthesis of
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  Speaker 8: the real thing because God is waiting for us to
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  Speaker 8: wake up and smell the coffee and realize what time
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  Speaker 8: it is.
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  Speaker 12: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: That is a word.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, question three. Pastoring can be a pretty lonely assignment.
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  Speaker 2: Lots of pressure on marriage, family, finances, personal faith, a
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: lot of stuff the congregation never sees. What would you
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  Speaker 2: tell a young pastor, and maybe you have told a
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  Speaker 2: young pastor who's sitting there next to you right now,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: what would you tell a young pastor about surviving the
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  Speaker 2: seasons when the calling is certain, but the encouragement is rare?
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  Speaker 8: I would say that you don't look for encouragement from
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  Speaker 8: people you look for compliance to the word that God
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  Speaker 8: has called you to preach we validate ourselves on the
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  Speaker 8: crowd and their response to what we have to say
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  Speaker 8: if you preach a sermon and you don't get any
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  Speaker 8: amens you consider yourself at Sunday but the amens don't
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  Speaker 8: come and validate you many times it's the entertainment value
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  Speaker 8: that gets you the amens And what we have to
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  Speaker 8: do is simplify it and bring it down to the
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  Speaker 8: most basic element.
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  Speaker 6: I love that. Don't go anywhere.
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  Speaker 12: Here he is, from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 2: We're watching younger generations become increasingly skeptical about what they
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  Speaker 2: term organized religion, even while many remain supposedly spiritually curious.
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  Speaker 2: From your perspective, what must the next generation of shepherds
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  Speaker 2: understand about reaching people who may be interested in Jesus
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  Speaker 2: and but don't have any trust in the institutional church.
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  Speaker 8: We need to let them know it's above the church.
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  Speaker 8: My key is to give them the word and encourage
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  Speaker 8: them to investigate it for themselves. When I was actively
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  Speaker 8: involved in pastoring, I used to say to our congregation
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  Speaker 8: at least once a month, don't trust me to tell
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  Speaker 8: you the truth. Validate me by going and examining the
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  Speaker 8: word of God for yourself and finding out that I'm
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  Speaker 8: in agreement with scripture. Don't allow me to be your.
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  Speaker 12: Mouthpiece.
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  Speaker 8: Get to know God for yourself. And if I am wrong,
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  Speaker 8: call me in on it and give me an opportunity
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  Speaker 8: to defend myself. And if I cannot defend myself, then
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  Speaker 8: it means that there needs to be a change. And
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  Speaker 8: if I continue to preach in heresy or in things
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  Speaker 8: that are not true, it may be that it's time
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  Speaker 8: for you to get a new pastor. Do not allow
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  Speaker 8: me to stay in the pulpit and preach whatever I
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  Speaker 8: want to preach and get away with it. because it
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  Speaker 8: weakens the foundation of the church and it gives the
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  Speaker 8: critics an opportunity to show clearly that it's what we've
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  Speaker 8: done rather than what we say God is doing. And
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  Speaker 8: we bring great harm to the body of Christ when
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  Speaker 8: we give that kind of freedom to people. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The shepherds have to be preaching the Word. They have
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  Speaker 2: to get them into Scripture as often as possible.
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  Speaker 8: Exactly. And what I used to do as well is
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  Speaker 8: give the congregation homework. I would tell them what book
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  Speaker 8: to read, what chapter to read, what to look for,
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  Speaker 8: and I would call them in the next Sunday. How
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  Speaker 8: many did the homework assignment? I had to get them
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  Speaker 8: in the Word. When you have a voice that is
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  Speaker 8: accepted by the people, it's a tremendous responsibility not to
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  Speaker 8: use that voice to expand your own kingdom, but to
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  Speaker 8: expand the kingdom of God. And I did that consistently
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  Speaker 8: by encouraging them to read the word, read the word,
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  Speaker 8: read the word, read the word. And I even suggested
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  Speaker 8: to them from time to time what methods to study.
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  Speaker 8: and how to apply it so that they would learn
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  Speaker 8: for themselves.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine that you're sitting across a table from a 25-year-old
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  Speaker 2: pastor who's finished seminary, started doing his thing, genuinely loves Jesus,
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  Speaker 2: believes the Bible, is ready to give his entire life
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  Speaker 2: to serve God's people. You get to place one conviction
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  Speaker 2: into that pastor's heart that you hope will sustain him
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  Speaker 2: for the next 40 years. What is that conviction? What
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  Speaker 2: would it be and why?
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  Speaker 8: The conviction would be, number one, it's not about you.
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  Speaker 8: Always bear witness to that fact. You're a vessel. The
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  Speaker 8: vessel in the hands of the artist or the one
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  Speaker 8: who's been assigned to use it is where it gets
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  Speaker 8: its function and its purpose. But ministry is not about you.
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  Speaker 8: That's number one. The second part of that question.
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  Speaker 2: What would that conviction be and why is that so important?
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  Speaker 8: It's important because we build empires of our own that
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  Speaker 8: focus on who we are. And we put ourselves at
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  Speaker 8: the center of that universe. And we become kings of
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  Speaker 8: a castle that God didn't ordain. Lords of the land
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  Speaker 8: that God calls for himself that we claim as ours.
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  Speaker 8: We claim cities. God has given me this city. You
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  Speaker 8: can barely handle the congregation that shows up on Sunday morning,
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  Speaker 8: much less the city. So we have to be honest
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  Speaker 8: and true to ourselves and recognize it's not about us.
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  Speaker 8: I could die today, but the work of God goes on.
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  Speaker 8: I could die in my 20s, 30s. The work of
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  Speaker 8: God goes on because it's bigger than we are. And
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  Speaker 8: if we're true to the word, then it's like running
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  Speaker 8: a race. We pass the baton to the runner who's
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  Speaker 8: behind us or in front of us, and he grabs
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  Speaker 8: the baton and runs his leg of the race. And
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  Speaker 8: we win by being in the right place at the
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  Speaker 8: right time, doing the right thing for the right person
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  Speaker 8: and the right cause. And if we're willing to do that,
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  Speaker 8: then we can survive the critique that comes from people
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  Speaker 8: who say we should be doing this, that, or the other.
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  Speaker 8: Because we have prognosticators all day who try to tell
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  Speaker 8: us where we should be in ministry, what we should
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  Speaker 8: be saying, who we should be associating with, and everything else.
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  Speaker 8: But we need a word from the Lord. We need
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  Speaker 8: to follow that word. We need to recognize it's not
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  Speaker 8: about us. It's about Christ. And at the end of
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  Speaker 8: the day, have I run the race effectively? Have I
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  Speaker 8: run the race according to God's word and God's will?
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  Speaker 7: If so....
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  Speaker 8: Turn off the voice of the crowd and listen to
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  Speaker 8: the voice of the Lord. Continue to follow his instructions.
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  Speaker 2: That's such good stuff. Bishop, I said that was the
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  Speaker 2: last one. This is actually the last one. What's the
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  Speaker 2: passage of scripture that you have tattooed on your mind, heart,
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  Speaker 2: soul that pulls you through anything and everything? And what
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  Speaker 2: is special about that text?
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  Speaker 8: Psalm 103, verse 1. Bless the Lord, O my soul,
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  Speaker 8: and all that is within me. Bless his holy name.
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  Speaker 8: It speaks of giving God everything. And then if you
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  Speaker 8: read on in Psalm 103, it tells you the various
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  Speaker 8: things that he does for us. He forgives all of
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  Speaker 8: our sins. He heals all of our bodies. He redeems
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  Speaker 8: our life from destruction. He crowns us with loving kindness
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  Speaker 8: and tender mercies. He renews our strength. And it goes
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  Speaker 8: on to point to the comprehensive approach to what God
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  Speaker 8: is doing in our lives. and what he wants to do.
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  Speaker 8: So when I'm down, it picks me up. When I'm discouraged,
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  Speaker 8: it encourages me. When I'm seeking direction, I know where
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  Speaker 8: to go. I know the source of my strength and
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  Speaker 8: my help and my power and my peace and victory.
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  Speaker 8: It comes from the Lord. And Psalm 103 verse 1
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  Speaker 8: is the verse that I've been attached to for more
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  Speaker 8: years than I can remember. And it's one that brings
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  Speaker 8: me great consolation in the midst of the challenges of life. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: it is.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Bishop, From a grateful radio family that have been
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: ministered to you from you for many, many years. Thank
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: you for your faithfulness. Please have a celebration to end
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: all celebrations on the 6th as you have the concert.
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  Speaker 2: And I hope that you enjoy those bus tours. I've
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: never known that you've done those. I would I would
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: die to do one of those with you because I
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: think it would be so interesting to hear you narrate
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: our beloved city. But we'll have to set that date
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: for some time in the future. But it's just been
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: a real pleasure to have you and Rod as well.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you both for spending the week with us. We're
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: very grateful.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 6: All right. Kevin McCullough, we're coming back from New York.
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  Speaker 6: Don't go away.
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  Speaker 13: Stick around for more of That Kevin next. Serving it
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  Speaker 13: up with a no-drink minimum. It's That Kevin Show. Kevin McCullough,
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  Speaker 13: glad to have you with us.
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  Speaker 2: Final few thoughts for this period of time together, friends,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: about Christian Solidarity International and why it's so important. Look,
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  Speaker 2: I'm never going to apologize for asking you to give
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  Speaker 2: to great causes.
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  Speaker 6: I have told you that from the beginning.
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  Speaker 2: This is part of my expression of gratitude back to
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  Speaker 2: God for the honor and the privilege and the humble
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: coolness that it is to get to do what I
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: do for a living every day. And it wouldn't be
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: possible had he not said, this is what I'm calling
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: you to. But because of that, I want to use
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: a portion of this platform every single day for his
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: glory and to do things that advance his kingdom. And
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Todd Chapman is back with us from Christian Solidarity International.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: And Todd, as I have had the chance to not
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: just advocate for CSI on the air over the years,
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  Speaker 2: but to get to know the organization and to see
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: how it operates and to understand the biblical efficiency with
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  Speaker 2: which they take their stewardship and the extreme care that
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  Speaker 2: is taken with every gift that is given and the
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: integrity behind all of that, I have to say, not
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  Speaker 2: only are they doing incredible things, they're one of the
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  Speaker 2: best organizations I've ever had the chance to be part of.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I continue to sing their praises long
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  Speaker 2: after we're not on the air anymore. Like, this is
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  Speaker 2: one of my passion organizations that I really, really mean
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  Speaker 2: it when I say this. I believe that they are
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  Speaker 2: doing God's work in every aspect.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of feel like it's David against Goliath
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  Speaker 5: in a lot of ways.
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  Speaker 11: We're not a big organization. Many people have never heard
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  Speaker 11: of us.
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  Speaker 5: Every time we do a radio campaign, and you may
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: be hearing about CSI, Christian Solidarity International, for the very
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: first time. But man, just because God has just blessed us,
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  Speaker 5: and that's because we're just committed to doing what he
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  Speaker 5: says in his word, which is to set captives free,
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  Speaker 5: and inviting other people to do that. And so over
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: the past You know, 30 plus years over, get this friends, over,
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  Speaker 5: and this is not me boasting on CSI, this is
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: me boasting on God. And boasting on our generous donors
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  Speaker 5: that have made this possible. Over 160,000 human beings freed
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  Speaker 5: from captivity, yes, but also the worst possible abuse that
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  Speaker 5: you could imagine.
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  Speaker 11: Verbal, physical, psychological, sexual.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, any form of abuse that a human being
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  Speaker 5: can endure, these slaves have been subjected to that. And
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  Speaker 5: it's gone on for decades. And also children now have
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  Speaker 5: been born into that. And I'm really excited about that
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  Speaker 5: because if you free a mom right now, more than
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  Speaker 5: ever before, we've been able to negotiate not just the
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  Speaker 5: freedom of the mom, but the freedom of a child.
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: So for $ 250... man, you can liberate two human beings,
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  Speaker 5: one that has already endured decades of abuse, but one
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  Speaker 5: that if we don't get them free, we'll also suffer that.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, we're preventing that. So, it's so beautiful.
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  Speaker 5: I just wanted to real quickly give you a little encouragement.
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  Speaker 5: I'm looking at Isaiah 61.1, and what you're invited to
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  Speaker 5: do right now checks every box in this verse.
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  Speaker 11: Check this out.
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  Speaker 5: The Spirit of the Lord God is on me because
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  Speaker 5: the Lord has anointed me to Bring good news to
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  Speaker 5: the afflicted. Send me to bind up the brokenhearted, to
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  Speaker 5: proclaim liberty to the captives, check, and freedom to prisoners.
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  Speaker 5: Hands going up in heaven for every gift that you give,
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  Speaker 5: because that's another human being freed.
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  Speaker 6: 888-342-1010 is the number where that takes place.
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  Speaker 7: 888-342-1010.
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  Speaker 2: And you may be saying, well, Kev, why wouldn't they
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  Speaker 2: liberate the kids if the moms are being liberated? Well,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: the slave master views that child who he impregnated the
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: slave with as his property too.
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  Speaker 11: Kind of theirs, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And so the idea that we're able to... talk him
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  Speaker 2: out of a future generation of a slave, which if
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: it's a young boy is a very valuable thing to
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: his calculations, is a God thing. And it did not
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: happen for many, many years that I was involved with CSI.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: It has begun happening over the last two to three years,
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  Speaker 2: and we couldn't be more excited about it because it
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  Speaker 2: saves every one of those kids from that horrific future themselves.
• 40:09
  Speaker 10: 888-342-1010, 888-342-1010.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to know more, go to thatkevinshow.com. Click
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  Speaker 2: the CSI banner at the top of the page. You
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: can read further when you click through there. There's lots
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: of information about what the program consists of. Just check
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  Speaker 2: it out and then be as generous as you can.
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  Speaker 2: We've got a lot to get to in the news
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  Speaker 2: of you that are helping us liberate those slaves. It's
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: making a difference. And already 36 human individuals have been
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: given freedom because of your efforts this year. So we're
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  Speaker 2: just going to keep plugging away until we get to
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  Speaker 2: all 230 taken care of. This is a little bit
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: of an uh-oh for Elon Omar. Another Fox News alert.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: According to two people familiar with the investigation, Ilhan Omar
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: isn't even her real name.
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  Speaker 6: So who is she?
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Ilhan Nur Saeed Elmi.
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  Speaker 6: That's big.
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  Speaker 4: Because in Somalia, a name shows your family tree on
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: your father's side. You get your own name, then you
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: get your father's, then your grandfather's. So the names after
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: Ilhan confirm who her father is and who her siblings are.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: But Omar's dad served in the Somali military under the
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: name Nur Saeed.
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  Speaker 6: Ring a bell? It should.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: Her ex-husband is Ahmed Nur Saeed Elmi. That's the man
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: a lot of people suspect is her brother.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: That's from yesterday. Just some more of the problems that
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Ilhan Omar is having. But again, her name is not
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Ilhan Omar. It's Ilan Nur Saeed Elmi. And her brother
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: is her brother, Nur Saeed Elmi. This is raising still
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: even more questions in Congress and whether she gets deported
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: from the country or not. Maybe it may still be
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: undecided yet. They're going to have to look at the
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: legalities of what she's done. But there are now congressional
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: members trying to get her to be expelled from Congress.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Randy Fine, who is a congressman from Florida, says, I
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: assume that she's not a citizen, so we might not
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: even have to do that. You can't be in Congress
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: if you're not a citizen of the United States. But
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: if it isn't automatic, I absolutely will demand that she
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: be expelled immediately. She is a naturalized citizen, born in Somalia,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: and became a U.S. citizen in 2000. She's denied any
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: wrongdoing and called the investigation politically motivated. She also got
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Barack Obama to run around and say to people that
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: it was politically motivated as well. The problem here, though,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: this is going to be hard to prove that it's
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: politically motivated if she's in actual legal jeopardy. Like, if
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: she's not even allowed to be a congresswoman because her
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: status is drawn into question because she just lied on
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: who she was when she became a citizen.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: And I think it's kind of rich that if she
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: had gone to Congress and had kept her head down
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  Speaker 2: and done good work and helped her community and done
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: the stuff that she's supposed to do, I don't think
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: anybody would have necessarily made as big a deal of
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: this as they have. But she's been one of the
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: loudest members out there talking trash against our country the
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: whole time she's been in Congress. She laughed at the
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: idea that 9-11 was in some way a bad thing.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: She literally went on a, I played the audio on
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: this show. She went on a podcast and said, oh yeah,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: on 9-11 when some people did something, ha, ha, ha, ha.
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  Speaker 2: And her shoulders were writing up and down and she
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: was laughing so hard. She has regularly been linked to
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: people that raise money for terrorist groups. She has regularly
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: been linked with the worst elements of the corruption story
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: in Minnesota. It's so bad now that even the Democratic
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: governor candidate there is promising to clean it up if
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: she gets elected. This is why we don't let non-citizens
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: be congressional representatives. They're not rooting for America. Some congressional
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: members say, I don't think Democrats think you should have
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: to be an American. They don't believe in our borders.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: They've made it clear they don't believe in America. The
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: House has the constitutional authority to expel a member, but
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: doing so requires a two-thirds vote. A criminal investigation or
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: allegation alone does not automatically remove a member from Congress.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Fine also criticized Delia Ramirez, who in September introduced the
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Reimagining Safety Act. Legislation that would dismantle the Department of
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  Speaker 2: Homeland Security and basically abolish immigration and customs enforcement and
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: customs and border protection.
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  Speaker 6: It's crazy.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: They want to get rid of Homeland Security. They don't
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: want us to have a border. They want to have
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: non-citizens vote in the elections. Another headline today, 20,000 fraudulent
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: registered voters in L.A.
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: County.
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: And it's only.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Friends, I'm not trying to pick on anybody, but it's
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: only the one party that is putting all of these
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: ideas forward. It's only the left that is saying, let's
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: not have any rules. Let's let everybody vote. Let's not
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: even have to be a U.S. citizen to run for office.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: The Florida congressman said, look at the bill filed by
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: the congresswoman from Chicago where she doesn't believe we should
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: have borders, border protection, or the ability to deport anyone.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Fine also criticized Democrats who have called the Justice Department's
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: investigation into Omar politically motivated, pointing to the separate inquiry
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: into her financial disclosures. All of the voices that speak
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: up in favor of the cheating, they all come from
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: one side. The congressman said that that party doesn't get
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: held accountable for anything and they agree on this agenda
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: that is anti-American and anti-citizen. The congresswoman's D.C. residence was
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: searched by Homeland Security investigation agents on October 12th. And
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I saw her with Chris Haynes yesterday complaining that that came.
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: At four in the morning.
• 48:46
  Speaker 8: Hmm.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Right around the same time that the people showed up
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: to sweep Mar-a-Lago when they did the same thing to
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: President Trump. But nobody was there.
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: Oh, it's so early.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: One last thing, and I first proffered this idea yesterday,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: and it's still bothering me. I'm still thinking, well, why
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: is that the case? She still hasn't been seen publicly.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: When she makes her video, she's on the move.
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: She's in a car.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: She shows up for certain controlled environments. She's now done
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: two interviews. with very, very far left-leaning.
• 49:25
  Speaker 6: Journalists.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: I'm sure the condition of her doing the interview is
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: that they do not assert where she's at at what
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: time or else they don't get the interview. But I've
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: wondered if they don't already have an arrest warrant written
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: out for her. And the challenge is just her appearing
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: somewhere where they can pick her up. Because it sounds
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: to me like she's broken a lot of laws.
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: Anyway, yeah.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: So she has the legal last name of the man
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: she married that everyone probably thinks is her brother anyway.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: And now we know that they had the last name
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: In Somalia.
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: Before they got married here.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: They already had the last name.
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: The name of fathers and grandfathers. Identical.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: No, there's nothing fishy with that. Why would you think
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: there was something fishy with that going on? All right,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: coming up next, America First Works is another organization that
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: is tracing what's going on in the election.
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: It will be here and be done soon.
• 50:31
  Speaker 11: So hang in there.
• 50:34
  Speaker 6: Kevin McCullough coming back. From New York, that Kevin. Kevin McCullough.
• 51:00
  Speaker 9: Welcome back.
• 51:06
  Speaker 6: To Times Square.
• 51:06
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• 51:21
  Speaker 2: The group that we always check in with regularly is
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: America First Policy Institute. But there are other pieces of
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: what America First is doing that are also having huge impact.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: And America First Works is headed up by my good
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: friend Ashley Hayek, who has been there for a little while.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: And Ashley, this last week, or the last couple of weeks,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: I think the burning cities of Europe have really given
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: maybe some pause to some voters who That if you
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: go down Europe's path, you might end up with Europe's present.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: And I think that that is enough to also have
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: people look into some of the accomplishments of what the
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: current team in Washington has done. And maybe they're not
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: going to have this huge, massive revolt in the midterms
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: that normally expect. You're out there every day on the
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: campaign trail talking to people about policies.
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: What are you finding?
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know about you, but when I watch
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: the footage of what's happening in France, It reminds me
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: a lot of what happened during the summer of 2020
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: here in the United States, when you had so many
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: of these far left radical groups that destroyed statues and
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: symbols of American pride, destroyed things in buildings, public buildings,
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: city buildings, government buildings, businesses were destroyed. lit on fire,
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: people were fighting in the streets.
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: These were the mostly peaceful protests.
• 52:48
  Speaker 7: Remember the mostly peaceful?
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: Exactly.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: And the same with the ice outs, the No Kings Rally.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: They claim to be these peaceful protests, but they're not.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: And they're all fueled by radical climate organizations.
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: Teachers, unions.
• 53:02
  Speaker 11: The thing about the ice outs.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Is a lot of them, they claim to be student-led,
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: very similar to what we're seeing in France right now.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: And they're, in fact, not student-led. They're led by these
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: radical left-wing groups. Neville Singham is a part of that group.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: Neville Singham also is the one that funds a lot
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: of the organizations here in the United States. So to
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: say that there's no link between these two is factually incorrect.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: And we've seen it happen here in the past. Look
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: at Portland, another great example of where there's been complete
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: destruction by these radicals. And we can't go back there.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: We can't allow that in this country. And it makes
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: me very worried for the future. They say that there's
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: a KGB agent who switched in 1985 and did this interview.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: And he talked about how you don't take over a
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: country through tanks and war. You take it over through
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: indoctrination of our institutions. And you see that with higher
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: education in our classroom. And that's why you see these
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: teachers unions trying to get to our children's minds. And
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: so that's what this election, every election is about. It's
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: preserving the republic. It's saving our country and making sure
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: that we take care of this great experiment that is America.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: I think that's such a great summary of what we're
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: looking at. Let's talk specifically about kind of the misinterpretation
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: of where we are fiscally from a from a national
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: standpoint i wrote about this in town hall this week
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: earlier this monday of this week and i said you
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: know the polls lean kind of one way they almost
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: always kind of lean one way let's be honest about
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: it and they generally tend to under poll republicans but
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: If you talk to people about what the issues are,
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: you'll hear things like gas prices, war in Iran, and
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: a president's personality defects of some sort. They'll say, I
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: don't like his personality. I don't like his humor, postings, whatever.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: And I'm sitting there thinking to myself, okay, the war
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: in Iran, nobody really wants it. We're not losing people.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: We don't have boots on the ground. We haven't invaded anywhere.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: We're just keeping a nuclear power at bay from destroying
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: the rest of the free world. So I think most
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: Americans kind of understand the nuance there. So there's this
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: kind of line of nuance after each of those issues.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Gas prices are kind of the trade we have for
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: that right now. And it's not anything that we want
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: to face, but it is the reality. But do we
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: get a nuke-free Iran because of it? I'd still make
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: that trade right now. And then in terms of the president,
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: he's won 230 million votes in only three elections.
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: He's the most.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Voted for president in history. He's gotten more votes than
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: FDR did in four terms. His personality is baked in.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: People know or they don't. They know and they like
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: or they don't like, whatever it is about that. But
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: that's not why people vote for Donald Trump. They voted
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: for Donald Trump because of the agenda. This agenda has
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: been followed through on. And I think all Republicans need
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: to do between now and the election is to remind people,
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: look at what we have actually done.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I have to convince Speaker Johnson for his
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: leadership and the work that he has done leading this
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Congress with such a small majority.
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: Razor thin.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Razor thin. And you look at the Democrats and what
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: they have voted against. They voted against no tax on tips.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: They voted against no tax on overtime tips. They are
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: not the ones who are pursuing prosperity. It's the America
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: first leaders in Congress and our president. And we have
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: seen phenomenal prosperity and more money in people's paychecks. Unfortunately,
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: that money is going more into our gas tanks. And
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: a lot of that, too, people forget is unraveling all
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: of the damage that Biden did during his administration, shutting
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: down the pipeline, making us energy dependent and reducing our
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: independence rates. So all of those things compounds, you know,
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: this president has done more to drive energy protection production domestically.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: Look at what happened with Venezuela. Another great example of
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: getting us where we need to be. People forget that,
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: you know, Biden inflation was nine percent. And then Joe
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: Biden told us that it was transitory. and temporary, people
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: forget that eggs are $ 5 a dozen, and we've seen
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: massive decrease in the cost of eggs, the cost of chicken.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: This is the first time, my sister's a cattle farmer,
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: this is the first time that the herd for beef
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: has actually increased We have seen a decline for like
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: 70 years, 60 years. That's, you know, with because of
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: the leadership of the president and Secretary Rollins. And so
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: they didn't do that under the Biden administration. And yes,
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: beef is still a little expensive, but there are actions
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: being taken every single day to try and make our
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: lives better and not just affordable, but prosperous. And that's
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: the difference. And if you look at the contrast of that,
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: you look at what the left has to offer. It's
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: big government socialism, one size fits all. forcing a mandated
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: government-run health care system. The grocery stores in New York
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: City would be everywhere. That's a disaster, putting independent bodegas
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: that had been there generationally out of work. That's what
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: the left wants, and it's actually quite scary.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Well, I want to shift gears to one last topic
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: before I let you go, and that is that we
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: have been told over and over again that Elections are flawless.
• 58:14
  Speaker 6: There's no mistakes. There's no fraud.
• 58:16
  Speaker 11: There's nothing that's happened.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Actually, last week, 20,000 fraudulent voters on the roll in L.A.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: County came to light. Gavin Newsom didn't have an explanation
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: for it. Nobody can really defend it. You actually had
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Schumer and Meeks file a lawsuit against the administration this
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: week for the purposes of preventing the feds from helping
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: states clean their voter rolls. They are doing everything they
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: can to legally defend illegal votes. And it's at a
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: pretty massive scale. People may not remember, but the audit
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: that was done in Georgia, this is going back to
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: the 2020 election. It took them like five years to
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: get the audit done. But when they turned it up,
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: there were 315,000 votes that were allowed to be counted
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: that should have been disqualified in that state's election. So
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: the president has put a big emphasis on election integrity
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: from where you're sitting how do you feel about the
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: efforts that we've put in thus far and are we
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: any more well protected in this in this election It's.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Been phenomenal what they what this administration has done. I
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: have to give, you know, really commend the Department of Justice.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: Right now we're seeing, you know, Attorney General Todd Blanche,
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: as well as Harmeet Dhillon, who's in the Civil Rights Division,
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: making sure that they send monitors and enforcing the law.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: I want to know what California is hiding. You know,
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: if you have nothing to hide, you open your books. But,
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: you know, the arrests that have happened, the charges that
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: have been made, the fact that they are taking this action,
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: to your point, they're definitely hiding something. California is one
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: of the states that allows automatic... illegal aliens to automatically
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: have a driver's license. And so that's, they also have
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: automatic enrollment at the DMV for voting. I guarantee you
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: there's a lot, exactly.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 7: Probably Illinois.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: So that's, that's what we have to get to the
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: bottom of because voting is, you know, it's a sacred
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: right that we have as an American. The other thing
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: I'll just say is in terms of our, the integrity
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: of our elections, what is so rich to me is
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: we have seen such a spike in early vote. So
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: I know a lot of folks, if you, if you
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: are on X or watching YouTube, Fake news media, they
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: start saying, oh, blue wave, blue wave, look at the
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: Democrat turnout. Well, what we're seeing is a big drop
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: in the mail ballots because the Democrats said, don't vote
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: by mail. We cannot trust Trump's mail ballots. How rich
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: is that? We're the election deniers. We're the crazy ones
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: for questioning voting methods. And they're telling their voters, don't
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: vote by mail, vote early in person. So that's the
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: shift we're seeing. We're not seeing a shift in politics.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: We're seeing a shift in method. So buckle up, hold
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: on tight. We do need to get our base to
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: go and vote. Elections are secure. I have trust in
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: this administration. We've got to show up so we can
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: continue to support them in the work that they're doing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm really glad that he's also been out on the
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: campaign trail working as hard as if he were on
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: the ballot, it appears to me. And he's getting regular
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Trump-sized crowds everywhere he goes.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not sure the other side is.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: The other side kind of looks like the Biden campaign.
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  Speaker 11: Turn out.
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  Speaker 2: Remember those big parking lots with the circles in them
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: and one chair? That was a packed rally for him. Anyway, actually,
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  Speaker 2: great to see you. Thanks for stopping by.
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  Speaker 6: I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 11: Thank you.
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  Speaker 6: You got it. Kevin McCullough coming right back from New York.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 6: Stay tuned.
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  Speaker 13: Stick around for more of That Kevin next.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 12: Here he is from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 6: All right, welcome back, Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 2: Very glad to have you with us and very excited
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: to be on this journey with you that I look
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: forward to. Personally, I look forward to this every year
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: because when I think of this time of year, we're
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: coming into that stretch where all the holidays hit, even
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: the non-holidays that my kids love that I hate, like
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Halloween and stuff like that. Thanksgiving, Christmas, this is my
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: sweet spot. I love this time of year. I love
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: thinking about the themes of being thankful, the themes of
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Jesus coming incarnate, and what that all motivates us to do.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: And if you're a thankful person, if you have things
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: to be thankful for, then you should be excited to
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: reciprocate that and show that to the rest of the world.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: And that's where My yearly campaign with Christian Solidarity International
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: means so much to us because we use all of
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: that good feeling, all of those wonderful ideas about gratitude
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: and Christ's coming, and we say, hey, let's actually change
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: some lives with it. Todd Chapman is back with us
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: from Christian Solidarity International. And Todd, you and I have
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: talked off air quite a bit about how unique what
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: CSI is in terms of what they do. It is
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: one of the most Well, I don't know of anything
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: else like it. But when I give that gift to
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: know that that human life is going from slavery into freedom,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: from maybe the darkest period of their life into maybe
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: the most hope-filled, I just have nothing but good vibes
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: at that point, to quote the kids these days.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and you can do that, by the way, at thatkevinshow.com, 888-342-1010.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: You know, and I'm actually looking at a story here
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: that reminds me of– I mean, you said a big
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: part of their lives. Some of these people that were
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: enslaved have literally spent almost their entire life in slavery.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: I'm looking at the story of a book. She was taken.
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  Speaker 11: She and her mom abducted. And I don't even know
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  Speaker 11: when this was.
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  Speaker 5: But as she was a baby and they're taken up
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  Speaker 5: into Sudan.
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  Speaker 11: Sudan.
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  Speaker 5: Her mom is beaten many times to the point where
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  Speaker 5: she finally died from a beating. I mean, they beat
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: her so bad and she's lying there dying and they
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: don't take her to a hospital because they don't have
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: any value. I mean, you were just an object. And
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: if you die, I'll just get another one. I'll just,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: you know, replace you. I mean, no value at all.
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  Speaker 5: And so now a book is, you know, she's come
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  Speaker 5: of age and she is forced to continue to live
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: in the home of the man who abducted her and then,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: you know, has begun to rape her and killed her mom.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: One time she's out watching the goats in the field.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: So one of her tasks, she loses track of a
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: couple of goats. She comes back and tells him he
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: beats her so bad her left eye comes out of
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: her head.
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  Speaker 11: Now, thank God. Now, she's 32 years old.
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  Speaker 5: So, from a baby, we finally were able to secure
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  Speaker 5: her release and walk her into freedom.
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  Speaker 11: 32 years of age.
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  Speaker 5: So, if she was taken at, let's call it two
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: years of age, we don't really know, 30 years in slavery.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: You think she's a little bit thrilled and excited that
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: she's finally free? She said, I never thought it would happen, actually,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: even though I prayed every day that God would somehow
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: deliver me. He finally did, and now I'm here. And
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: she says, my biggest hope now that I'm free is
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: that CSI will just continue to do what they do
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  Speaker 5: and free other people that are in the same situation
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: I was in. And yeah, Kevin, you're right. This is
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  Speaker 5: so incredibly profound. What we get to do through CSI,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: what you get to do through CSI, a gift of $ 250.
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  Speaker 5: And you secure the freedom of a slave like a book.
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  Speaker 5: And you set her up for a brand new life
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  Speaker 5: in South Sudan. Most beautiful thing that I think you
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  Speaker 5: could do with $ 250 ever.
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  Speaker 2: And we wholeheartedly invite you in. So make that call
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  Speaker 2: right now. 1-888-342-1010 is the number.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 10: 888-342-1010.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: And as Todd mentioned, if you want to do it online,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: just go over to thatkevinshow.com and click the CSI banner
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: at the top of the page. But it's super simple.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: It shouldn't take more than just a couple of minutes
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: to do either one of those. 888-342-1010 or thatkevinshow.com and
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: click the banner. Now, when we take the slave from
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: the slave master's area and existence and we take them
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: back to South Sudan... they just have a time of recovery. Just,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: you know, you need to exhale a little bit. You
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: need to have some healthy food. You need to have
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: some rest. You need to be around people that aren't
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: out to kill you and hurt you and abuse you
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  Speaker 2: every day.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I was going to say, you need to not
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 11: be beaten for a while.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, let's just have a little cushion of
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: something that there's no expectation.
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  Speaker 11: But no verbal abuse for a day.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: That's where the, but that's where the healing starts. And
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: then as they are, you know, kind of brought back
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: to life, if you will. They're gifted this thing called
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: the Bag of Hope, which really doesn't fit in a
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: bag of any size that you and I could carry.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: It's a number of gifts. It's a big bag of
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: sorghum grain that they will be able to utilize and eat.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: They've probably been preparing sorghum for the slave master's family
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: over the time that they've been enslaved. So they're very
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: familiar with how to use this particular grain. There's a
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: bag of seed that will help them plant a garden
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: for more grain a year from now, so they have
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: ongoing food supply. They have things like cooking utensils and
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: gardening utensils and cleaning utensils and those types of things
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: that are all included. And then things like a Bible,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: things like blankets, tarps, things that are helpful to them
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: in fighting the weather. And then the best part of
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: all is that every one of these sleighs get a
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: little she-goat, a little milking she-goat. that um they're able
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: to take not only have food product from milk and
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: cheese and other things but then they're able to also
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: breed and create a little bit of micro enterprise for
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: themselves or their themselves and their children increasingly um and
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: that is all included everything i just described the recovery
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: time all of the all of the food that they're
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: going to take and plan and all that that's all
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: in the gift of 250 dollars when you give it
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: um Just call the number.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 7: 888-342-1010. 888-342-1010. 888-342-1010.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: Change a life right now. You can also do it
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: online at thatkevinshow.com and click the CSI banner.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 9: Here he is, from New York, that Kevin.
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  Speaker 12: Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 6: Welcome back. Kevin McCullough. Glad to have you with us.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: It's That Kevin Show. Thatkevinshow.com.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: If you want the column, if you want the podcast,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: if you want the.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: Television show, we got it all. It's all there.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: It's all free. We never put it behind a paywall.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: We just want you to have access to it. I
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: want to say thank you to the trio of Pauls today.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: Paul from Malene, Alabama. And Paul in Maywood, New Jersey.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: And Paul in Breezy Point, New York. All within the
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  Speaker 2: last couple of days.
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  Speaker 11: That's hilarious.
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  Speaker 6: Liberated slaves.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 11: Awesome and funny at the same time. Through Christian solidarity. Funny, interesting.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: And then there's this other guy named David. He had
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: to break the pattern. He's from Bakersfield, California. And he
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: also liberated a slave.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 11: Maybe his middle name is Paul.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it probably is. They all gave gifts, friends, in
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: excess of $ 250. And the significance of that is real simple.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: Every one of those men that I just mentioned will
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: have liberated a human being, a life, a life that
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: will be forever changed because they are now free. And
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: Todd Chapman is back with us from Christian Solidarity International. Todd,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: I never get over the fact that there are people
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: constantly tuning in for the first time and they're constantly saying.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: Wait, what?
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: What's this about slavery? What's this about liberation? We solved
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: that problem 100 years ago, more. How come you're talking
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: about it now? What do you say to them?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think, first of all, we live in
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: a bit of a bubble here in the United States.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: And so, you know, if it's not happening for the
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: most part within our borders or even our communities, a lot.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 11: Of times we're just not aware of stuff.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: You know, that's just the media world that we live
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: in these days. And, you know, what we're talking about here,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: you know, we're talking about something that actually has been
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: going on for many, many years. The taking of these
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 5: slaves happened, as my kids would say, in the last century.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 11: So, it happened a while back.
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  Speaker 5: But it was at a level that most people, yeah,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: people are so surprised when I talk to them about this.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: They're like, how have I never heard about this? Most
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: people haven't. I mean, you would have to be pretty
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: steeped in global history and international relations and Christian persecution
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: to really be aware of this. But our lack of
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 5: awareness doesn't make it any less significant. And so that's
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: why we're so thrilled to be able to have the
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: opportunity to come on Kevin's show. And we've been doing
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: it for years and bring it in front of you,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: make you aware of it. Because what we found is
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: once people know about this and they understand, not just
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: on the macro level, but you understand on an individual
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: level how important just incredibly viciously these human beings have
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: been treated simply because they just happened to believe differently
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 5: and were in a part of the world, in a
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 5: country at the time that was largely Christian, and these
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 5: Muslim marauders were basically allowed to throw down on them
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 5: and do what they wanted. Well, now all of that
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 5: has stopped, but the remnants were 150 plus thousand, probably
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: 200,000 is the ballpark estimate after this slavery broke out.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: have remained in captivity most of that time. And so,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: CSI has been setting them free one slave at a time.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 11: And so, yeah, I think that's the big thing, Kevin.
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  Speaker 5: I just think, you know, it's interesting, too, when people
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 5: become aware of the level of slavery and bondage and
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: abuse in the world, I do find that most Christians,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: suddenly they're activated and they're like, okay, this is not right.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 11: I need to be doing something about it.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: So if that's your disposition, you're in the right place
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 5: to actually do something about that and free a Sudanese slave,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: one like Adut.
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  Speaker 11: Where were you in 1996, Kev? What were you doing?
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 6: 26 years old, probably. I was living in Chicago.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: I was out of school a couple of years, and
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: I was working on my radio career.
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  Speaker 11: Okay, so there you go.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: Well, in 1996, and she definitely remembers this day, she, Adut,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: was just walking to visit her sister. And she's a
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: young teenager at the time, just, you know, just doing
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 5: what she did every day. And suddenly a group of
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: men show up and they've got guns and they're on horses.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 5: And they snatch her, stick her in this rudimentary pen,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 5: you know, this cage with about a dozen other abductees.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 11: And then they waited.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: Guards, you know, have guns trained on them. And then
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 5: they were all marched north into a strange land. And
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: she was given to a slave owner. And this began
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 5: the next several decades of her life, beaten every day,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: forced to do all sorts of hard physical labor. Sexual
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: abuse began not long after she got there because she's
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 5: a teenager. And so she began to be raped, you know, repeatedly, violently.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: And then she eventually, of course, got pregnant. And when
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: she bore her children, they were taken away, kept by
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 5: the man who enslaved her. And then one night, desperate
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: and fearing for her life and her last remaining child,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 5: she's like, I just got to get out of here.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 11: I don't care what it costs. I have to try.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: And so she flees, and she happened to run into
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 5: our slave retriever who said, look, I can actually help
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: you and get you to safety. You can't be fumbling
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: around here in the dark. They're going to find you,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 5: and they're going to kill you. So he brought her
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: into freedom.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: Since so many of these women, when they were taken, were...
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: in essence, Christians raised by Christians knew of the Christian
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: gospel and knew what it was to worship Jesus. But
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: as soon as they were taken into captivity, their Muslim
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: slave masters forbade that. And so, a lot of them
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: were forced to take Muslim names and to do things
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: like circumcise themselves, trying to be as polite as I
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: can in terms of describing it. But without any medical
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: help or sanitary conditions to do it in. And that's
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: in addition to the sexual assault and the rape and
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: the beatings and the vulgar verbal abuse that was taking place.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, when you give
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: them their freedom from captivity, you're releasing them from all
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: of that. You're giving them a life where none of
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: that occurs anymore. And not only does it not occur,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: they can now proactively go back to worshiping the Jesus
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: that they weren't even allowed to pray to out loud.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: If they were caught praying to Jesus out loud while
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: in captivity, it could mean their death. But many of
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: them did pray just silently and quietly to themselves night
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: after night.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 6: God, please see me. Please hear my cry. Hear my prayer.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: Help us be liberated. And Now that they have the
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: chance to do that, the ones that are coming out
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: into freedom are telling us, don't give up. Don't give
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: up until you get all of them. We've got to
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: get all of the slaves liberated.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 14: 888-342-1010.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 6: $ 250 does that for one person. $ 250 permanently liberates a slave.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 7: 888-342-1010. 888-342-1010.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: We have 232 slaves' names on a list this year.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: We're trying to get every one of them liberated.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 6: Will you help us?
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 14: 888-342-1010, 888-342-1010.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Stick around for more of That Kevin next. Serving it
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: up with a no-drink minnow.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: It's That Kevin Show.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: Hey, Kevin McCullough, welcome back. Final few minutes for the
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: radio week. Don't forget, tomorrow morning, 8 a.m., we will
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: kick your weekend off, 8 a.m. Eastern, with some fun,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: some humor, hopefully a laugh or two. The Babylon Bee,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: Nick Peterson, some other great comedy teams joining us for
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: the weekend edition of That Kevin Show. It's heard in
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: radio syndication, so you'll get that across the country, I think,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: at 9 p.m., Saturday night. But the TV version kicks
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  Speaker 2: off your weekend at 8 a.m.
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  Speaker 6: Tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Should be a lot of fun. And then we will
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  Speaker 2: also be seen at 9 p.m. Eastern on Biz TV
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  Speaker 2: across the country. And if you missed that, it replays
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  Speaker 2: at 11 p.m., which is primetime on the West Coast.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you for making us a big part of
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  Speaker 2: your Saturday. Big Saturday, as we refer to it around
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  Speaker 2: That Kevin Show. We're so grateful to have the opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to be with you seven days a week because I'm
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  Speaker 2: on a lot of radio stations on Sunday too. So
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  Speaker 2: it's always a lot of fun. I just today got
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  Speaker 2: my first batch of Z-Stack. I'm pretty excited because Z-Stack
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  Speaker 2: is the immune boosting formula from the legacy of Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Zev Zelenko. You may remember Dr. Zelenko came up with
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  Speaker 2: the Zelenko protocol. It was a therapeutic protocol to help
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  Speaker 2: people recover from COVID faster and because it boosted their
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  Speaker 2: immune system and helped them fight off the horrible things
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  Speaker 2: that were infecting their body. Well, when in 2020, he
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  Speaker 2: was deplatformed and told, you know, you're a bad, bad person,
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  Speaker 2: bad person for doing any of this. It turned out
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  Speaker 2: that he was 100% right. Everything that he had researched
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  Speaker 2: has since then been completely justified. And even though he
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  Speaker 2: is no longer with us because he lost his battle
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  Speaker 2: with cancer a couple of years ago, I am very
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  Speaker 2: honored to be one of the first endorsers of Z-Stack.
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  Speaker 2: It's a combination of ingredients, vitamin C, zinc, a couple
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  Speaker 2: of other things. It will keep your immune system boosted.
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  Speaker 2: You are going to fight off those colds a little
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  Speaker 2: bit better. There's going to be all kinds of things
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  Speaker 2: that you're going to be able to feel better about.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm excited to start taking it myself because I've
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  Speaker 2: known about ZStack for a little while, did not know
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  Speaker 2: that they had created a personal formula, and I just
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  Speaker 2: think it's going to be tremendous. So why don't you
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  Speaker 2: it yourself. ZStackLife.com slash Kevin. The most listened to podcast
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  Speaker 2: I still have in the podcast archives is my original
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  Speaker 2: two discussions with Dr. Zelenko about everything that he was
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  Speaker 2: doing to fight COVID in his community. And he kept
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  Speaker 2: seeing patients even after the governor of New York told
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  Speaker 2: the private care physicians to close their offices, he kept
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  Speaker 2: going to patients' homes. But the day that he was
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  Speaker 2: on my show and then we turned it into a podcast,
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  Speaker 2: it just went super viral and it's still.
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  Speaker 6: In the archives.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go back and re-listen to that because
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  Speaker 2: there were some things in there that were really amazing. Anyway, ZStackLife.com,
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  Speaker 2: me getting our immune systems boosted. as we get ready
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  Speaker 2: to head into the really cold, nasty stuff for the
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  Speaker 2: next few months. All right, Calvin McCullough saying thank you
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  Speaker 2: for keeping us with you all week long. Join us
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  Speaker 2: for the weekend tomorrow. Oh, and for those of you
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  Speaker 2: impacting lives. And speaking of that, we might have some
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  Speaker 2: news on something new that's coming for the Christmas season.
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  Speaker 2: So get over to the website, see it all, thatkevinshow.com, thatkevinshow.com, thatkevinshow.com.