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Nurse Sydney Sutherland brutally abducted, raped & killed while jogging near home · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A gorgeous twenty five year
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Speaker 1: old woman with a bright future ahead of her, Sydney
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Speaker 1: Sutherland goes missing while jogging near her own home. In
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Speaker 1: the last hours developments in the case of jogger Sydney Sutherland.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, I mean, Nancy Grace, this
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Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here
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Speaker 1: on Fox Nation in serious XM one eleven. First of all,
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Speaker 1: take a listen to this. Hey, we well save her
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Speaker 1: call yesterday afternoon late that Sydney sotoman was missing. We
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Speaker 1: started out, we got to scene, and we've been working
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Speaker 1: pretty much all night. We did finally break it down
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Speaker 1: about two o'clock this morning just for safety concerns because
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Speaker 1: of the darkness. Got started back this morning. Between seven
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Speaker 1: thirty and eight. We've had multiple agencies show up an
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Speaker 1: offer assistance. We've had Jonesboro PD, Truman PD, Newport PD,
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Speaker 1: Tuckerman State Police, US Marshall's FBI pretty much the whole
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Speaker 1: game and they're currently on scene right now helping out
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Speaker 1: with that. We're looking at not only on the ground,
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Speaker 1: we've had air services also from Survival Flight out of Baseball.
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Speaker 1: They brought two helicopters over this morning. Our saw State
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Speaker 1: Police brought their chopper out last night and again this morning.
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Speaker 1: They're currently flying grid searches now grid searches, plane searches,
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Speaker 1: searches on foot searches with tracro jogs. But all the while,
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Speaker 1: did someone close to the family know the whereabouts of
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Speaker 1: Sydney Sutherland? Listened to Sheriff Davy Lucas. We have the
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Speaker 1: only thing we know of right now is we have
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Speaker 1: a confirmed sighting of her at around between two thirty
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Speaker 1: and three o'clock yesterday afternoon in the area of Jackson
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Speaker 1: County Road forty one, which is just north and kind
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Speaker 1: of west of her residence. She was on foot, out
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Speaker 1: walking and jogging. We received that information from a UPS
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Speaker 1: driver this morning that saw her. We're kind of concentrating
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Speaker 1: on that general area and then more information pours in.
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Speaker 1: Had Sydney been working out at a local gem which
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Speaker 1: raises all sorts of possibilities. I can listen to logan
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Speaker 1: Wheelie and cut a kai. Plenty of people are still
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Speaker 1: out and about looking for twenty five year old Sydney Sutherland.
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Speaker 1: Here's what we learned from Sheriff David Lucas. This morning.
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Speaker 1: Jackson County authorities and volunteers search late into Wednesday night
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Speaker 1: searching for the twenty five year old. Sheriff Lucas says
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Speaker 1: he doesn't have any solid leads on or whereabouts other
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Speaker 1: than that she was seen last or Wednesday afternoon as
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Speaker 1: a ups driver saw her near County Road forty one.
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Speaker 1: Sheriff Lucas says he's leaving no stone unturned and trying
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Speaker 1: to find her. We're working every aspect we can think of,
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Speaker 1: and then the search takes a different turn. Take a
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Speaker 1: listen to Katie Woodall, Kai and ar cut Nine, those
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Speaker 1: close to Sydney confirming just a few minutes ago that
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Speaker 1: the body discovered today was hers. This is coming from
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Speaker 1: Sydney's boyfriend's parents. They said the family was told the
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Speaker 1: body discovered today was Sydney's. They also said an arrest
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Speaker 1: has been made in this case. Now. We are working
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Speaker 1: to get official confirmation from Sheriff David Lucas, but he
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Speaker 1: has not released new information since this afternoon when that
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Speaker 1: body was discovered. Again, this is from Sydney's boyfriend's parents.
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Speaker 1: They've taken to social media to let those following this
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Speaker 1: case know that it was Sydney's body found today and
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Speaker 1: an arrest was made. Logan Whaley is on the scene
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Speaker 1: at the family's home. He says the Sheriff's office has
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Speaker 1: shown back up with me an all star panel to
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Speaker 1: break it down and put it back together again. First
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Speaker 1: of all, special guest Mitch McCoy joining us from KAARK four,
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Speaker 1: Fox sixteen News. Professor forensics Jacksonville State University, author of
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Speaker 1: Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon and star of a
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Speaker 1: brand new hit series, Poisonous Liaisons on the True Crime Network.
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Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan, renowned psychoanalysts, joining us out of Beverly Hills.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall at Doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Wendy Patrick,
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Speaker 1: California prosecutor her author of Red Flags and host of
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Speaker 1: Live with Doctor Wendy on CASEBQ at Wendy Patrick PhD
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Speaker 1: dot com, and special guests joining us Sydney's brother Sam
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Speaker 1: Sutherland and her mother Maggie Sutherland to the Sutherland's Thank
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Speaker 1: you for being with us. Maggie, you and I have
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Speaker 1: spoken before about when you realized Sydney, your baby girl,
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Speaker 1: was missing. You told me you guys had just come
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Speaker 1: back from a big family vacation in Deston, Florida, and
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Speaker 1: that day everything was settling back into the normal routine.
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Speaker 1: And you spoke with Sydney the day she went missing.
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Speaker 1: Correct what happened. She had been to do a workout
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Speaker 1: in John f Her. She went over to the gym
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Speaker 1: that she goes to work out at, and then she
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Speaker 1: came back by my house and she visits for a
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Speaker 1: little bit it and I was still unpacking from our
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Speaker 1: vacation because we just got home the night before, like
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Speaker 1: at nine ten o'clock. So we retired and I was
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Speaker 1: still unpacking, and I said, can you run up the
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Speaker 1: post office and get my mail? And she said she's good,
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Speaker 1: So she went and get the mail, and we visited
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Speaker 1: and I said, well, I'm going to finish this, and
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Speaker 1: she said, well, I'm going to go home. I think
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Speaker 1: I want to bake a cookie or some brownie today.
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Speaker 1: So she was thought by the store and get it,
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Speaker 1: and then she was going to stop by Sam's because
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Speaker 1: she had something in her car that she had taken
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Speaker 1: on vacation for him and was unloading it to get
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Speaker 1: it out the back of her car. And that's where
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Speaker 1: we got the video. The last video of her getting
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Speaker 1: that out the back of the car and people describing
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Speaker 1: what she had on. Miss Sutherland, she came to your
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Speaker 1: place after she had already worked out in the gym,
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Speaker 1: or before she was going to work out at the
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Speaker 1: gym after, because I was concerned when Sydney first went
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Speaker 1: missing when I heard she had been at a gym,
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Speaker 1: because that greatly increases the possibility of suspects. And another thing,
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Speaker 1: Miss Sutherland, did she go to sam place to unpack
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Speaker 1: something from the vacation her brother before or after she
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Speaker 1: saw you? Was it directly after? Yes, she lived here
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Speaker 1: and went straight through and backed into his drive and
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Speaker 1: got something out and was putting it on his carboard.
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Speaker 1: When did you first realize she was missing? Miss Sutherland?
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Speaker 1: It was around five o'clock afternoon when asked her boyfriend
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Speaker 1: called me and asked if I talked to Sydney and
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Speaker 1: what happened. I said, no, I was in Newport. I
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Speaker 1: had friend Samarons, and I said, what's going on? He said, well,
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Speaker 1: the last time I talked to her was around two thirty.
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Speaker 1: I sent her a tech or she semetech said she
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Speaker 1: was going running and he goes, I've got home and
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Speaker 1: she's not here in the car, here, her kids here,
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Speaker 1: everything's here, and I've been out looking for down that
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Speaker 1: road and everything, and I can't find her. And I
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Speaker 1: just thought maybe she would be with you because something
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Speaker 1: doesn't feel right. We went through your mind at that
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Speaker 1: moment um, Well my heart stopped, I said. And I
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Speaker 1: when I got there and I looked in the house,
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Speaker 1: he was exactly right. Everything she had been to the store.
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Speaker 1: Her sacks were laying there, her car was there, her
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Speaker 1: car keys were there. Everything was there. Nothing out of
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Speaker 1: order she had. I did notice she had changed clothes
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Speaker 1: because they were she's laid on there, and she changed
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Speaker 1: her shoes because she don't wear them outside and running
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Speaker 1: in the dirt on the farm road because it was
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Speaker 1: her good shoes that she worked in. And I just
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Speaker 1: started immediately calling my boys, her dad, and I called
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Speaker 1: AT and T right away, and then we call the
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Speaker 1: Sheriff's office that started coming in and they were there
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Speaker 1: pretty quick too. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, we are
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Speaker 1: talking about the disappearance and the death of this beautiful
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Speaker 1: young girl, Sydney Sutherland. Her mother and brother with us
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Speaker 1: along with our all star panel back to Miss Sutherland.
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Speaker 1: You all including Sam, you, the whole family, neighbors, the community, police, drones,
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Speaker 1: helicopters all get out almost immediately looking for Sydney. Knowing
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Speaker 1: that you've got a time lapse from the time she
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Speaker 1: went running to the time that her boyfriend calls you
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Speaker 1: notice something is wrong, So she got a two or
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Speaker 1: three hour window there. I recall you telling me something
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Speaker 1: about finding a beady. What happened? That was on the
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Speaker 1: next day. And that was on the second day we
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Speaker 1: were out on the search. Everybody would start in one
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Speaker 1: area and walk back, and we kept going to this
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Speaker 1: one area for some reason. And we were there and
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Speaker 1: down on our hands and knees, crawling, and all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, I was like, my best friends were with me,
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Speaker 1: other helpers were there, and I said it was where
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Speaker 1: the phone was found. So we were always going back
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Speaker 1: to that site because that's where the phone was found
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Speaker 1: that second day. So we were just down on our
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Speaker 1: hands and knees. We were like, we got there's something here,
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Speaker 1: whichnches tell And all of a sudden I found seat
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Speaker 1: that was on her bracelet, and then one of the
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Speaker 1: other girls did and we were marking on with rocks
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Speaker 1: and we were just it really got me, and then
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Speaker 1: they that's when they come and got me. You know
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Speaker 1: when you say it really got you to find those beads,
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Speaker 1: that bead there's something about your loved one's possession. Nobody
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Speaker 1: else would probably notice it or note its significance, but
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Speaker 1: you did. I remember when I was testifying in my
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Speaker 1: fiance's murder trial. I came down off the stand and
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Speaker 1: I looked over at the States Council table, Miss Sutherland,
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Speaker 1: and I saw Keith denim shirt. It was bloody, but
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Speaker 1: that's what I had seen him wearing when he left
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Speaker 1: that morning to go to work. And if anybody else
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Speaker 1: in the world had seen it, it would not have
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Speaker 1: meant anything to them. But I knew immediately that that
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Speaker 1: was Keats. When you say it got to you, what
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Speaker 1: do you mean by that? I knew then that something
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Speaker 1: had happened to my Sydney. It was just it just
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Speaker 1: God was like she either struggled and they broke it,
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Speaker 1: or someone's got her and she was trying to fight,
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Speaker 1: because maybe that's one of the phone was where it
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Speaker 1: was that she was running too that field because she
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Speaker 1: felt threatened or something and was running but being you know,
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Speaker 1: down in the area, I just knew something was wrong
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Speaker 1: for sure with Studney. Then then we find out at
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Speaker 1: the search headquarters the alleged killer may have actually approached
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Speaker 1: the family offering comfort. Mitch McCoy k A r K
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Speaker 1: four with Fox sixteen News is with us. Of course
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Speaker 1: we now know and arrest was made. What can you
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Speaker 1: tell me about twenty eight year old Quake Llewellen Well
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Speaker 1: Quick Llewellen is a Jackson County native. He was you
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Speaker 1: could call a family friend. This small county, everyone knows everyone.
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Speaker 1: So it's believed that they graduated. Sydney and Quake graduated
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Speaker 1: from from the same high school, which graduates about fifty people.
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Speaker 1: Quake Lewelly, so each class is only fifty people. Mitch
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Speaker 1: McCoy k r K fifty people in a class. They
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Speaker 1: had to know each other. Yeah, they definitely did. And
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Speaker 1: in this community, even the sheriff recognized that he person
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Speaker 1: only knew Quake Luwellen and his family like you knew
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Speaker 1: Sydney Sutherland and her family, So all everyone knew each other.
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Speaker 1: Back to Miss Sutherland, Maggie Sutherland, this is Sydney's mom.
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Speaker 1: Is it true that Quake Luwellen now suspected as being
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Speaker 1: a killer actually approached family members during the search. Yes,
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Speaker 1: what happened. The headquarters were was up at that house
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Speaker 1: that Alex and Sydney lived in and was set up outside.
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Speaker 1: We had tense water and food and everything, and he
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Speaker 1: just all of a sudden that day walked up. You know.
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Speaker 1: He wasn't like a normal farmer that was dirty or anything.
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Speaker 1: He was dressed and he was just went and stood
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Speaker 1: up against a tree. And I looked up and I said, well,
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Speaker 1: there's quake, you know. And I already knew that he
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Speaker 1: was supposed in the last one is Singer, because they'd
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Speaker 1: already said that, so they'd like just let it go.
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Speaker 1: And I was like, no, I'm gonna walk over there.
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Speaker 1: And I walked over there and I said, quite, can
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Speaker 1: you kill me? Anything about Sydney? Anything where she was
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Speaker 1: on the road, where was she running, you know anything?
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Speaker 1: And he goes, she's just running. And I said, you
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Speaker 1: couldn't tell me anything else, and he goes no, And
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Speaker 1: I said, well, thank you. If you think of anything,
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Speaker 1: please please tell me or tell the police. And he
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Speaker 1: just kind of hugged me, and I just walked off
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Speaker 1: over there to doctor Bethany Marshall, psycho Allen's joining me
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Speaker 1: out of Beverly Hills at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com.
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Speaker 1: Talk about the kiss of death, which of course goes
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Speaker 1: back to the Last Supper in the Bible and to
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Speaker 1: the Garden of Guests Simone where Judas Iscariot comes and
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Speaker 1: kisses Christ to identify him to Roman soldiers so they
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Speaker 1: can take him and kill him. And here you've got
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Speaker 1: Quake who is insisting he is innocent. Let me just
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Speaker 1: put that out there. Who comes up and actually hugs
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Speaker 1: Sydney's mother. I mean when I just said that, it
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Speaker 1: gave me chills. Hugs her mother, Nancy. We see this
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Speaker 1: in so many of the stories you cover. Remember Casey
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Speaker 1: Anthony decided she wanted to get involved in children's rights
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Speaker 1: or I think looking for loss and exploited children. There
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Speaker 1: are multiple perpetrators you've talked about on your show who
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Speaker 1: have killed people and then they join in the search.
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Speaker 1: And I think it's one of two things. Either they're
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Speaker 1: still trying to gain proximity to the victim, they have
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Speaker 1: chosen the victim. Perhaps in this case Sydney, he knew her,
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Speaker 1: he went to school with her, who was a Facebook
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Speaker 1: friend with her. Perhaps fascinated with her, wanting to stock her,
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Speaker 1: and after her death, wanting to gain proximity to her
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Speaker 1: by gaining proximity to the family. That's a more complicated explanation.
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Speaker 1: The more simple explanation is a complete lack of a conscience,
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Speaker 1: just not even caring, just really curious, hanging out, wanting
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Speaker 1: to see what's happening, and not even connecting the dots
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Speaker 1: that he has actually killed this person. You know the
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Speaker 1: thing about you, doctor Bethany. You know, in my mind,
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Speaker 1: if it looks like a duck, it walks like a duck,
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Speaker 1: it quacks like a duck, it's a duck. I'm pretty
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Speaker 1: sure I don't need to put its DNA under a
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Speaker 1: microscope to figure out what it is. You put so
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Speaker 1: many layers on it. I mean, Jess got Morgan helped
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Speaker 1: me out. You're the death investigator. To me, he showed
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Speaker 1: up to find out what was going on with the
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Speaker 1: investigation and snooping around, listening in to find out if
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Speaker 1: anybody was close enough to figure out it was him. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: standing off in the distance and just kind of observing Nancy,
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Speaker 1: almost like a wolf circling the herd, you know, and
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Speaker 1: just seeing what he could pick up in this environment,
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Speaker 1: you know, And how callous and cold do you have
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Speaker 1: to be in this context? You know, you're watching these
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Speaker 1: people who you know, just just like Sydney's mama said
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Speaker 1: a few minutes ago. This poor woman's down on her
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Speaker 1: hands and knees, trying to find just something about her daughter.
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Speaker 1: And here he is out there and he knows he
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Speaker 1: can only imagine I'm sure the grief that they're feeling.
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Speaker 1: He probably can't because he's insensitive. But he's watching this
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Speaker 1: at a distance and he's collecting information. Trust me, that's
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Speaker 1: the reason that police go to funerals many times when
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Speaker 1: they have unsolved cases, because they want to observe the crowd,
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Speaker 1: just like you know, a doctor Bethany mentioned. The reality
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Speaker 1: is this, these people are information seekers. Some of these
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Speaker 1: people are actually living out this event in their mind
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Speaker 1: over and over again. Time stories with Nancy Grace. Guys,
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Speaker 1: we are talking about a beautiful young woman with the
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Speaker 1: whole world in front of her, happy, charming, super smart, motivated,
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Speaker 1: hard working, everything you could ever want in a daughter,
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Speaker 1: in a person was Sydney Sutherland. You know, I asked
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Speaker 1: myself a million times why her? Why was she picked out?
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Speaker 1: Why does she have to die? Take a listen to
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Speaker 1: our friend Journey Taylor. Court documents are the first hand
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Speaker 1: looking disturbing actions. Investigators say Llewellen took this pass summer.
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Speaker 1: Now one of the newest details how her searched on
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Speaker 1: his phone netted evidence in the murder case. Police say
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Speaker 1: they found that about an hour after Sydney Sutherland disappeared,
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Speaker 1: he was about two point three miles from where her
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Speaker 1: phone was found, But that location Llewelyn was at is
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Speaker 1: actually just yards from where authorities found Sutherland's body on
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Speaker 1: August twenty first, three days after her disappearance. In an
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Speaker 1: interview with investigators, Llewellen admitted to hitting Sutherland with his truck.
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Speaker 1: He said he then loaded her up into his pickup
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Speaker 1: and took it to an area that investigators stay was
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Speaker 1: a reference on the phone's location services. Arkansas State Police
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Speaker 1: said he then raped and buried her. To Joseph Scott Morgan,
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Speaker 1: death investigator, what would you look for to corroborate We'll
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Speaker 1: hold on to Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor and host of
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Speaker 1: Line with Doctor Wendy CACBQ. Wendy, I know it's hard
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Speaker 1: for civilians to understand. I wrestle with it myself, but
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Speaker 1: someone may not in our country be prosecuted based on
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Speaker 1: their confession alone can do it. The case lawders all
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Speaker 1: the way to the US Supreme Court. If all we
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Speaker 1: have is Quate Llewellen's confession, he cannot be prosecuted. That's right.
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Speaker 1: It's called the theory of corpus. That's a fancy way
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Speaker 1: of saying you need both a confession and an act
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Speaker 1: a crime. People confess the crimes all the time, they
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Speaker 1: have a admitted It's hard for civilians to understand that.
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Speaker 1: Where I was a public defender, they used to do
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Speaker 1: it around the holidays to have a warm place to
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Speaker 1: stay over the Christmas season. I know you folks on
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Speaker 1: the East Coast know what I mean by that, But
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Speaker 1: you need so much more than that. And even if
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Speaker 1: you strongly suspect, even if they know details they never
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Speaker 1: should be able to know other than they did it,
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Speaker 1: you still need more. And that is where people like
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Speaker 1: Joseph Scott and Dephanie Marshall, all everybody that we all
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Speaker 1: talk on your show, that's where we all come together,
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Speaker 1: put our heads together and find out how do we
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Speaker 1: find a trail to some action that actually leads to
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Speaker 1: a suspect more than the confession itself. And at the
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Speaker 1: end of you ever wonder how cases are made. Many
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Speaker 1: times I remember driving around in Fulton County District Attorney
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Speaker 1: County Issue Crown Vic Crown, Victoria, talking to my investigator,
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Speaker 1: Ernest every day and we talk about the case, just
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Speaker 1: like we're talking right now about Hey, Ernest, I can't
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Speaker 1: prosecute this case just on a confession. We've got to
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Speaker 1: find operation. And in the last days that corroboration has manifested.
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Speaker 1: It's not just his confession anymore. And now I'm bringing
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Speaker 1: in miss McCoy KRK Channel up four, Fox sixteen, our
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Speaker 1: special guest who's been on the case from the very beginning.
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Speaker 1: What can you tell me about a dent and quake?
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Speaker 1: Llewellen's car his truck? Yeah, and it was his truck
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Speaker 1: that the Arkansas State Police special agents really started piling
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Speaker 1: up some of this evidence, at least from the search
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Speaker 1: warrants that we've gathered from what appears to be, according
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Speaker 1: to search warrants, blood inside the cracks of a tailgate
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Speaker 1: and on that tailgate, to his family contacting special agents
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Speaker 1: days at footage at our home that we think you
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Speaker 1: need to look at. Special agents show up there and
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Speaker 1: Quake's wife points out a dent on the hood of
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Speaker 1: his truck while watching surveillance footage that was not there
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Speaker 1: when he left that morning. All of this according to
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Speaker 1: search warrants with me Mins McCoy k r K four
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Speaker 1: that's Fox sixteen. He was poured through court documents and
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Speaker 1: search warrants, sworn affidavit search warrants. This is how search
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Speaker 1: warrant goes down. You get what you think is PC
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Speaker 1: probable cause. I'm talking about you as an investigator, and
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Speaker 1: then you identify where you want to search. You have
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Speaker 1: to go to a magistrate. They're there twenty four seven
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Speaker 1: three sixty five, not just bankers hours at the court house.
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Speaker 1: You take the evidence that you have your PC, your suspicions,
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Speaker 1: you tell the judge, you swear under oath that it's true,
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Speaker 1: and the judge gives you typically a search warrant approved
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Speaker 1: by the court. And you've got to identify what you
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Speaker 1: want to search at this truck, be at his home,
23:57
Speaker 1: be at his computer, his iPhone. It doesn't how do
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Speaker 1: you have to get a search warrant unless there are
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Speaker 1: exigent circumstances. Exigent circumstances means that the evidence will disappear
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Speaker 1: if you don't act right now, and that's a very
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Speaker 1: old legal concept. He goes all the way back to
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Speaker 1: US versus Carol, that goes to the US Supreme Court,
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Speaker 1: which was a Moonshiner case. A cop saw a car
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Speaker 1: driving off and the tail was dragging too low, and
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Speaker 1: the cop thought there's moonshine in there, and he stopped
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Speaker 1: the car and search shit. The defense argued there was
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Speaker 1: no search warrant, and that was the birth of exigent
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Speaker 1: circumstances exception to the search warrant requirement. But here, as
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Speaker 1: Mitch McCoy reports, they act to pursue to search warrant.
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Speaker 1: And when I find very interesting, I'm gonna go to
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Speaker 1: Maggie Sutherland, who is braving through all of this evidence
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Speaker 1: while grieving the death of her daughter, Sydney. If you
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Speaker 1: can even imagine that, every time I hugged Lucy and
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Speaker 1: John David since I read about Sydney, I think about
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Speaker 1: Sydney saying, Hey, I'm going to go bake some brownies.
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Speaker 1: I gotta stop by the store. Her mom, Maggie, having
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Speaker 1: no idea that she would not speak to Sydney again,
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Speaker 1: what do you make Maggie A family members and I
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Speaker 1: believe they're referring to Llewellen's wife, Greasie and his mother
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Speaker 1: Carrie that call law enforcement about the dent in the car. Yes,
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Speaker 1: yes they did. They called looks like on the twenty
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Speaker 1: second they would and viewed it on the twenty third,
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Speaker 1: and was what they said he was doing in the
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Speaker 1: video that they were watching him. He was at the
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Speaker 1: front and he was rubbing like the dent and just
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Speaker 1: looking at it and walking around his truck. And then
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Speaker 1: when they went outside they seemed what he was what
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Speaker 1: was on the happened to the front of his truck
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Speaker 1: because he had a new truck. Let me understand something.
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Speaker 1: I did not know that truck was new. That's significant
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Speaker 1: because that dent would not have been there. You mean
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Speaker 1: it was new to him. It was not a used
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Speaker 1: truck he just bought, was it? No? No, it was
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Speaker 1: a new druck that I don't know how it was,
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Speaker 1: but it is aids a new truck. What was it
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Speaker 1: a GMC? What was it a GMC two thousand team?
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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. When I understood Miss
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Speaker 1: Sutherland that law enforcement I think it was the Sheriff's
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Speaker 1: actually had reviewed video surveillance. I thought originally that they
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Speaker 1: were referring to video surveillance on one of the Llewellen's
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Speaker 1: farm properties, because they own and work thousands of acres
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Speaker 1: that span a couple of counties. I thought that was
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Speaker 1: the video surveillance. But you're telling me they see quite Llewellen,
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Speaker 1: their son, their husband rubbing his hand over something on
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Speaker 1: his new GMC, and then they go out and find
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Speaker 1: out it's a dent in a GMC. So the video
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Speaker 1: surveillance was there at the house, yes, at the house
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Speaker 1: in grubs, and what was he doing to the GMC?
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Speaker 1: On the video he was like rubbing in the area
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Speaker 1: where a dent was. It's right by the grill. The
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Speaker 1: grills kind of broke on the left passenger side, and
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Speaker 1: then right above it is a dent, and they think
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Speaker 1: that's where he hit Sydney. But he was just walking
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Speaker 1: around and rubbing it and looking at it and pouring
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Speaker 1: around his truck a little bit. But he was when
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Speaker 1: he was at the front, he would grub that dent
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Speaker 1: and everything, so it made him very suspicious of it.
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Speaker 1: Prime stories with Nancy Grace we're talking about the disappearance
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Speaker 1: and death of it. I say beautiful because there's so
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Speaker 1: many ways to describe Sidney. I've got her mother with me, Maggie,
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Speaker 1: and I'm looking at a photo again today of Maggie
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Speaker 1: with Sydney, and they looked like sisters, just beautiful blonde
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Speaker 1: hair and these big pretty eyes, big smiles, megawatts smile
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Speaker 1: on their faces. And I just keep going back over
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Speaker 1: in my mind those last words that Sydney spoke with
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Speaker 1: her mom about heading out debate. Brownie's not an idea
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Speaker 1: in the world that she would have a collision course
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Speaker 1: that day with a twenty eight year old neighbor, Quake Llewellen.
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Speaker 1: And when I say neighbor, I mean that in relative terms,
28:49
Speaker 1: this is farmland they were. They were far how many
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Speaker 1: miles away from you, guys, Miss Sutherland. Did the Llewellens
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Speaker 1: live the hell? They Grubs ten minutes away. They have
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Speaker 1: a house in Grubs and then they also have one
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Speaker 1: in Jones Borrow, which is about thirty miles. But he
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Speaker 1: was at the shopping Groves house in Grubs. To Joseph
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Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, Professor forensics and death investigator, Joe Scott let
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Speaker 1: me circle back to that question. I was going to
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Speaker 1: ask you earlier, who got got to corroborate this confession.
29:25
Speaker 1: If we want to move forward in Sydney's case and
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Speaker 1: get justice now again quat Llewellen has pled not guilty.
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Speaker 1: What can you tell me, Joe Scott? I need you.
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Speaker 1: I need you to connect the dots between Sydney's injuries
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Speaker 1: and the grill and the dent on that twenty nineteen GMC.
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Speaker 1: You bet Nancy, and we can do it. I think
29:50
Speaker 1: the folks in Arkansas can do it. And let me
29:52
Speaker 1: tell you how it's done. When Sydney, as as her
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Speaker 1: mama had mentioned, was struck by this vehicle, it is struck.
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Speaker 1: This dent and the broken grill is at a specific height. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so let's think about that from the ground level up
30:08
Speaker 1: to the point of impact. And this is something that
30:11
Speaker 1: we see with pedestrians. Now, what will happen. What will
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Speaker 1: happen here is that the injuries that Sydney had sustained
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Speaker 1: relative to this impact, and they're they're very specific. When
30:24
Speaker 1: you see when you see vehicles that have struck struck pedestrians,
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Speaker 1: you will marry that up with her relative height, marrying
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Speaker 1: that up with the point of impact on the truck.
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Speaker 1: Now here's the key reflect back what they were saying.
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Speaker 1: He had videography of him rubbing this area where the
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Speaker 1: strike took place. Well, because of that, if there was
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Speaker 1: trace evidence there, and I'm thinking whatever kind of clothing
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Speaker 1: she was clad in, you might not find anything on
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Speaker 1: the smooth surface that would transfer surface he may have
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Speaker 1: wiped away. But yep, you're right, You're right on the money.
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Speaker 1: The grill. The grill is fractured, Nancy, she said, it's broken.
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Speaker 1: So what that means is it creates these little jagged edges.
31:10
Speaker 1: And folks at home can just think of almost like
31:13
Speaker 1: a comb if you will, If you if you were
31:14
Speaker 1: to drag a comb across a blanket, you might not
31:17
Speaker 1: can see it real well, but you're going to pick
31:19
Speaker 1: up those little fibers. And that's what the state police
31:22
Speaker 1: are looking for right now. And those two things are
31:25
Speaker 1: going to be married up. And this along with I
31:27
Speaker 1: could give you a myriad of other pieces of evidence
31:31
Speaker 1: that this individual is left behind, but this is going
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Speaker 1: to put her in this location with this individual and
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Speaker 1: this victus. Not only that by his own statement, Joska Morgan,
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Speaker 1: you know, let me go to miss McCoy on this
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Speaker 1: KRK four, who's been on the case in the beginning.
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Speaker 1: It's my understanding. In his statement, he says he hits
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Speaker 1: her with his GMC that he then loads her I
31:57
Speaker 1: believe were his words. He loads her into his truck
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Speaker 1: like she's cargo, then takes her to a different location,
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Speaker 1: sex assaults her and correct me if I'm wrong, Mitch McCoy.
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Speaker 1: But isn't their blood on the tailgate of his GMC?
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Speaker 1: According to search horns, absolutely, and not only does the
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Speaker 1: state police have evidence related to that tailgate, according to
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Speaker 1: some of the search horns that we've received, law enforcement
32:35
Speaker 1: also they have the same style shoes that quick Lewellen
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Speaker 1: was seen in that surveillance footage from the home property.
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Speaker 1: State police have those shoes in their possession right now,
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Speaker 1: the same shoes they believe who was wearing at the
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Speaker 1: time Sydney was killed. Who has it in their possession?
32:56
Speaker 1: Which law enforcement agency? That would be Arkansas State least,
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Speaker 1: but right now would probably be at the state crime lab,
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Speaker 1: at the crime lame. And what are they looking for
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Speaker 1: at the crime lab? Joe Scott, Yeah, let me you know, okay, Well,
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Speaker 1: what they're gonna look for trace elements. And let's talk
33:10
Speaker 1: about the shoes. These are actually work boots that this
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Speaker 1: guy has had on, that this guy's had on, and Nancy,
33:15
Speaker 1: he's a big guy. You know, they don't call him
33:17
Speaker 1: quake for nothing. I mean, he's a he's a very
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Speaker 1: ample fella. And you know what he has done. He's
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Speaker 1: gone into farm country. You know. Uh, Maggie mentioned just
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Speaker 1: a moment ago that this is on a farm road.
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Speaker 1: These are till till tilled fields. I would imagine soybean
33:32
Speaker 1: are cotton, and that they grow in this area. And
33:34
Speaker 1: he has left impressions behind relative to those boots and
33:38
Speaker 1: relative to the area where where where Sydney's remains were found.
33:44
Speaker 1: So this is gonna be key. They're gonna be looking
33:46
Speaker 1: for that, marrying those footprints up at the scene. In
33:51
Speaker 1: addition to that all the clothing and there's a big
33:54
Speaker 1: surface area with this guy. Keep that in mind, he's
33:57
Speaker 1: come in contact with her. Remember you talked about how
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Speaker 1: there was blood on the tailgate. Well, there is quite
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Speaker 1: possible this is a brutal killing. There's quite possibly blood
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Speaker 1: on those clothes that he had on at that moment, Tom,
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Speaker 1: And they're going to match that up. You know, how
34:12
Speaker 1: can you get past this in court? If it is
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Speaker 1: specifically Sydney's blood, which we can match up through DNA,
34:18
Speaker 1: how do you explain the fact and you can't a
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Speaker 1: way that her blood just mysteriously winds up on this
34:24
Speaker 1: guy's tailgate and potentially on his clothes as well. It's
34:28
Speaker 1: an insurmountable hill of evidence that defense will have to
34:32
Speaker 1: overcome in this case. You know what took down Napoleon.
34:35
Speaker 1: He was fighting too many wars on too many fronts.
34:41
Speaker 1: Quake Llewellen's got another problem. Listen, The wife of a
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Speaker 1: man accused of capital murder has now filed for divorce.
34:49
Speaker 1: Court wreckers say that Quake Llewellen's wife filed the amended
34:52
Speaker 1: divorce complaint. Grace Llewellen accuses Quake of abuse, contempt, and
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Speaker 1: toglect in their two year marriage. Week was arrested in
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Speaker 1: August on suspicion of capital murder, kidnapping, and rape in
35:04
Speaker 1: the death of Sydney Sutherland. He's being held without bond
35:08
Speaker 1: in the murder. You're here in our freens at Kai
35:11
Speaker 1: T eight and in the latest another twist in the case.
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Speaker 1: Take a list to our cut twenty seven our friends
35:19
Speaker 1: at Fox sixteen along with Mitch McCoy. Is there anything
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Speaker 1: that makes you think he could have some mental issues? Well, no,
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Speaker 1: I mean not specifically. But what I learned in my
35:31
Speaker 1: twenty five years of his practice is that I'm not
35:34
Speaker 1: a psychologist. James says, stress or a certain life event
35:37
Speaker 1: could play a part, and in any case, it's important
35:41
Speaker 1: to have a professional make those determinations, and the art
35:44
Speaker 1: and artists on law. You don't particularly have to have
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Speaker 1: a be crazy or not know what you're doing, or
35:51
Speaker 1: not able to control yourself to still be able to
35:53
Speaker 1: use mental health evidence if it's appropriate to your mental
35:57
Speaker 1: state and what happened. And no stress, he asked. The
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Speaker 1: reporter with Fox sixteen asked the defense lawyer, is there
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Speaker 1: anything that makes you think quick Llewellen has a mental
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Speaker 1: issue and he goes No, nothing specific, just some stress.
36:18
Speaker 1: Stress my rare end n oh. If he knew enough
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Speaker 1: to go up to Maggie Sutherland and hug her and
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Speaker 1: ask her about the whereabouts of her daughter, he knew
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Speaker 1: exactly what he was doing enough to lie and fake it.
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Speaker 1: Maggie Sutherland, what is your response to a his wife
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Speaker 1: seeking a divorce? And be a psychiatric evaluation. I do
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Speaker 1: know that she did get that divorce pretty quickly from him,
36:50
Speaker 1: but from my you know, like they think that he's
36:56
Speaker 1: not he was a mind totally of mind. I mean farmer.
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Speaker 1: You'd have to be mentally capable of time for a
37:03
Speaker 1: crop long, operating large crop equipment. You have to understand
37:08
Speaker 1: crop production planning. You know, he signed up for all this.
37:14
Speaker 1: There was nothing wrong with him. How could he gone
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Speaker 1: and got this huge long and and people try to
37:21
Speaker 1: say he's mentally not capable. What huge line are you
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Speaker 1: talking about. He's running a farm farm loan plus he
37:29
Speaker 1: just got a GMC and they put you to the
37:33
Speaker 1: mill when you qualified to buy a new car. I
37:35
Speaker 1: just went through it with our minivan. Yeah, they knew
37:38
Speaker 1: everything about me now and he managed to pull that off.
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Speaker 1: And he knew enough to go rub that dent over
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Speaker 1: and over. He knew that was evidence in the murder
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Speaker 1: of Sydney Sutherland. There is no way out for him.
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Speaker 1: And let me remind everybody this is a death penalty state.
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Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace crime Story signing
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Speaker 1: off Goodbye friend,