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Heather John Reveals Her Shocking Health Journey: Parasite Cleansing, Biohacking & Worms! · What's Eating U?!

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Sam: Ooh, we're talking.
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Sam: Talking about what's eating to you.
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Sam: Talking about what's eating into you.
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Sam: Proudly brought to you by Rogers Hood Apothecary.
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Sam: What's up, What's Eating You, fam?
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Sam: Welcome back to another episode of What's Eating You.
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Sam: We are your hosts, Sam.
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Sam: And Kim.
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Sam: And today we have a very special guest for you.
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Sam: An absolute beautiful human inside and out, a former fashion industry corporate sales executive, health and biohacking enthusiast, wife of Shark Tank investor Damon John, and the real CEO of the John household, Heather John.
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Sam: Heather, thank you for being on What's Eating You.
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Sam: Thanks for having me.
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Sam: I'm so excited.
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Sam: I can't wait to talk about parasites.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh my God.
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Kim: We're so excited.
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Kim: We're so excited for you to dive in and tell us how you got into this space and how you're so vocal about this.
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SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, uh, you know, I was raised in Philadelphia, my whole adult life, New York City.
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SPEAKER_03: But, you know, growing up, my family was a little bit more progressive in the functional medicine area.
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SPEAKER_03: So we've always done both Eastern and Western medicine.
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SPEAKER_03: So I always had a little bit of a background in it, you know, just a little bit.
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SPEAKER_03: So, you know, as I got older, I the reason why I got a little bit more into it initially was probably around 2010 because um I started having chest pain.
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SPEAKER_04: Wow.
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SPEAKER_03: And um I was actually diagnosed with pericarditis.
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SPEAKER_03: If I don't know if you ever heard of pericarditis, you know pericarditis, of course, um, which is inflammation in the lighting of the pericardum, the sac that our heart sits in.
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SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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SPEAKER_03: So one thing led to another, and then I got a lupus diagnosis after seeing probably like a dozen rheumatologists.
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SPEAKER_03: So I was like all down, you know, the whole line with all of these doctors, putting me on all these drugs and getting side effects, ending up in the ER all the time.
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SPEAKER_03: And I was just like, oh, I can't do this.
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SPEAKER_03: So I really started diving deeper into um what's really going on with me.
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SPEAKER_03: But it took years, I mean, years of spinning my wheels.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, initially for me, it was honestly acupuncture and Chinese herbs, is where I started.
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Sam: Wow, love it.
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Sam: We love ancient Chinese medicine.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that that really initially cleared me up.
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SPEAKER_03: But um, it's it's just been it's been ongoing with IVs.
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SPEAKER_03: And I used to do ozone treatments weekly.
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SPEAKER_03: And unfortunately, my veins are kind of shot right now.
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SPEAKER_03: Wow from doing it.
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SPEAKER_03: They warned me, they're like, one day it's gonna be really hard to stick you.
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SPEAKER_03: And guess what?
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SPEAKER_03: That day came.
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SPEAKER_03: Interesting.
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SPEAKER_03: Wow, wow.
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Kim: It's been a long journey.
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Kim: That's been long.
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Kim: How so how many years has it been?
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Kim: And then what caused?
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Kim: Like, and you don't have lupus anymore.
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SPEAKER_03: You know, the funny thing is I I had the doctor take it off my medical record.
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SPEAKER_03: Wow.
2:50
SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm funny like that.
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SPEAKER_03: I just said, you know, I I believe I have autoimmune issues, but I don't want to be labeled.
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Sam: You didn't want to be attached to the label.
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SPEAKER_03: I didn't want to be attached to the label back then.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, and this is so many years ago, and I was just like, nah.
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SPEAKER_03: You're like, I'm not gonna claim that.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm not owning that.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: I it's kind of funny because a lot of people like to fall into a label, and I see it all the time, but I'm just not built like that.
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SPEAKER_03: I like to treat per symptom per issue.
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Kim: That's right.
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Kim: That's what we should be doing.
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Kim: Yeah, not labeling it.
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Kim: The label is for us to understand which treatment, which idea.
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Kim: So when I found out I had Lyme, I use HBOT and NAD to help boost my cells because of the depletion of my mitochondria.
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SPEAKER_04: Right.
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Kim: But I probably wouldn't have researched all of that with just parasites, even though they all work together.
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Sam: The label has a benefit because it can be validating, but it's not something to identify with and hold on for the rest of your life.
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Sam: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: No, I I mean the drugs make you that they give you make you more sick than you were in the first part, you know.
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SPEAKER_03: And and the funny thing is, what brought out my pericarditis, and I have to back up a little bit on the story, is I was working in in the city, in New York City, um, in corporate sales in the fashion industry.
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SPEAKER_03: And um, you know, our whole division, we got laid off.
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SPEAKER_03: And I said to Damon at the time, I was just like, I just want to be a spin instructor.
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SPEAKER_03: And he's like, You want to be a spin instructor, and you went to college and you're working and a career.
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SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, Yeah, I don't want to do this anymore.
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SPEAKER_03: So that I did.
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SPEAKER_03: I went and I was a spin instructor.
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SPEAKER_03: And when you're in the beginning of doing that, you know, they might say, Oh, you need to teach four classes a day because you're just subbing and getting into the system.
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SPEAKER_03: And so that's what it was.
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SPEAKER_03: So it was a heavy load on me, and that's where that chest pain started, which is not unusual for fitness uh professionals, by the way.
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SPEAKER_03: A lot of them have cardiac issues.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know if you're familiar, but I a lot of them do, especially with that heavy, heavy cardio load, you know?
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Sam: Wow.
4:48
SPEAKER_03: So I started, I thought I had asthma.
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SPEAKER_03: I felt like an elephant was on my chest.
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SPEAKER_03: And then that's how I uh figured all of that out and and got to got to that point of um being sick.
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SPEAKER_03: And I was actually pretty darn sick for a couple of years.
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SPEAKER_03: Like I I could barely walk at times, and it was pretty rough.
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Kim: How's your chest pain now?
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SPEAKER_03: It is really under control.
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SPEAKER_03: I have my moments where I have flare-ups, but it is nowhere near what it used to be.
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SPEAKER_03: And I'm still looking to like completely like eradicate this in my body.
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Sam: What do you contribute that to the most?
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Sam: Like what like the herbs, Chinese medicine, what brought you to this point?
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Sam: Of being an you're not to me, you're not a chronically ill human.
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SPEAKER_03: Do you feel like you're chronically ill?
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SPEAKER_03: It's weird because I am I'm I'm so good at this point at like working on each thing, and and uh anything you tell me, I'll do it.
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SPEAKER_03: I'll try anything, any machine, any you know, stem cells, exosomes, this, that treatment, blood treatment eboo, I'll do all of it.
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SPEAKER_03: So I've been doing so many things for so many years that I really keep a good uh grasp on a lot of my symptoms.
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SPEAKER_03: But so chronically, I hate to say that because I again I don't want to put that on my side.
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SPEAKER_03: I know, but I I I am up and down.
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SPEAKER_03: You know, I it's sleep is very important for me.
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SPEAKER_03: So if I don't sleep two consecutive days, the chest pain will kick in.
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SPEAKER_03: So travel for me is really I have to be careful.
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SPEAKER_03: And sometimes you can't control that.
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SPEAKER_03: You have to hop on a plane and it's at odd hours, you have to get up at two in the morning, whatever.
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SPEAKER_03: It's life that it'll kick in.
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SPEAKER_03: And sometimes it'll set off an episode and I have to deal with that.
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SPEAKER_03: And then usually I'll have to go get some exosomes or do something to quiet the inflammation.
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SPEAKER_03: When it pops up, yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: I I mean, I will not go back on any of those drugs to treat it.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, that ship pests sailed many, many years ago for me.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, and I actually like to really credit Gary Brecka.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: Because when I first met Gary, he really initially turned my health around for me.
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SPEAKER_03: Just that's great.
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SPEAKER_03: He's the one who introduced Damon and I to all of those biohacking machines.
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SPEAKER_03: And I he's the first person I did the exosomes with, and um, you know, helped me out with the thyroid situation I didn't even know I had.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, so he was the initial person to kind of like, you know, yeah, really get some relief.
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Kim: Do you feel better when you do antiparasitics and when you've done the stem cells with your chest?
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Kim: And then you had said something about pinworms.
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Kim: Right.
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Kim: And that's threadworms, which that's where they live.
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SPEAKER_01: Girl, I relate.
7:22
SPEAKER_03: Don't worry.
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Kim: You're not alone on this one.
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Kim: Pin worms are, it's a real, it's real.
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Kim: It's real.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, I'll start with the stem cells first.
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SPEAKER_03: The like for the past three or four years, I've been doing stem cells, and I do feel like that quiets down a lot of the inflammation and issues in my body.
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SPEAKER_03: And I think that's when in that that definitely helped uh quiet a lot of my symptoms.
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SPEAKER_03: And even with I don't know, I just general inflammation.
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SPEAKER_03: I had uh Ray Nodes disease, and that goes back and forth, and some thyroid issues and the pericarditis.
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SPEAKER_03: So that helped.
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SPEAKER_03: But um, what got me to the parasite topic?
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SPEAKER_03: That's where we want to go, right?
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SPEAKER_03: That's the word.
8:00
SPEAKER_03: Always the world.
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SPEAKER_03: The worms.
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SPEAKER_03: So yeah, now it's funny, we're talking about all this other stuff.
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SPEAKER_03: But I, you know, I said to you before, Kim, I said, you know, it's it's hard to talk to me in general conversation about health and wellness without bringing up parasites now.
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SPEAKER_03: And I really feel like people are starting to hate me.
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SPEAKER_03: They're like, damn, she doesn't shut up.
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SPEAKER_03: Like everything is on the parasites.
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Sam: How's everything a parasite?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, everything goes back to parasites for me because I truly believe that's the root cause of like everything.
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SPEAKER_03: Agreed.
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Kim: It is, I think it's a root cause, maybe not everyone's root cause, but it is a root cause of a lot of autoimmune and issues because of the fact they hold on to toxins, they cycle through, they flare, and you just never know when they're going to flare.
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Kim: And when you start to feel better after you've taken an antiparasitic, I mean, two and two is four.
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SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_03: You know, every and every time I get on a new topic or I discover something that uh that helps me, I'm like, man, like how could I be so stupid?
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SPEAKER_03: How could I have not known this?
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Kim: Sure.
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Kim: We all feel like that, right?
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Kim: Yeah, on a daily.
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Kim: This is she giving back because I felt that way so much of my career, 20 years of my career.
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Kim: I'm like, wait, how did I not know this?
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Kim: How did I not write this into the curriculum?
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Kim: I know the lab technicians are not looking.
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Kim: How did I not have them train better looking back?
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Kim: I mean, really, and when I went viral, I would talk about that often how I feel very bad that I didn't, as a Western medicine professional, actually make this a topic that we discuss more than three to five minutes.
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SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_03: I know, and you can't talk to any uh Western doctor generally about that.
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SPEAKER_03: They put throw it away.
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SPEAKER_03: They're like, Right, right.
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SPEAKER_03: It doesn't exist.
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Sam: Yeah, it's not really our fault, though.
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Sam: Other countries, this is part of their tradition, seasonally, annual at bare minimum in a lot of countries.
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Sam: But they make it, they build it into their actual culture.
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Sam: Right.
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Sam: They know you get parasites in worms, they know you eat fresh organic food, and organic has them on it because it doesn't have pesticides, and people don't realize that.
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Sam: Like fresh fruits, vegetables, like you get it from dogs, from cats, from other humans, walking back, from dirt, the sand.
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Sam: I mean, we're in Miami right now, like go to the beach, like in Jamaica, what do they have?
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Sam: What do they give their people?
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Sam: The bush.
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Kim: The bush tea.
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Kim: It's just like wormwood.
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Kim: It's literally like a tea that they mix together, and then the elders frown upon you if you don't pass this on to your generation because they're so susceptible since the food is being sent to them.
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Kim: Understood, you know, and they're out there eating the fish and they know that this is an actual issue.
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Kim: Yes.
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Kim: And so they don't look and frown upon you.
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Sam: Yeah.
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Sam: So it wasn't your fault you didn't know about it for a long time.
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Sam: We feel that way too.
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Sam: But how did you come into it?
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Sam: Okay.
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Sam: It's a funny story.
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Sam: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: And actually, I almost forgot about the story, like rightfully.
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SPEAKER_03: So Sage, uh Brecca, Gary Breca's wife reminded me.
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SPEAKER_03: So what happened is we were having lunch one day, and I guess this was almost two years ago, by the way.
10:55
SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, I was sitting there, we're just catching up, and I was just like, Sage, did your butt itch?
11:02
SPEAKER_03: And she's like, What do you mean, Heather?
11:04
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, you know, rectal itching down there.
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SPEAKER_03: She goes, like, uh, it sounds like you have parasites.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh.
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SPEAKER_03: And then she goes, Do you know Kim?
11:13
SPEAKER_03: And I said, actually, I follow her on Instagram.
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SPEAKER_03: She's like, You need to get her um her cleanse, because I believe Sage was doing it at the time.
11:20
SPEAKER_03: And then that's when I initially got it.
11:22
SPEAKER_03: And I, but I I wasn't 100% sure because I was still trying to understand and wrap my head around it.
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SPEAKER_03: So I went to two GI doctors.
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SPEAKER_03: Big mistake, waste of time.
11:33
SPEAKER_03: Waste of time.
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SPEAKER_03: Because I'm like, what's wrong with me?
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SPEAKER_03: I had to go through the whole uncomfortable, you know, nigg dug.
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SPEAKER_03: Got a ton look and itchy.
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SPEAKER_03: I I thought the OBGYN was the problem.
11:44
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, yeah.
11:46
SPEAKER_03: So they're like, oh, you're fine, nothing's wrong.
11:49
SPEAKER_03: When it's a two.
11:50
SPEAKER_03: So I'm like, uh, I didn't want to take no for an answer.
11:52
SPEAKER_03: And then after a while, I'm like, okay.
11:53
SPEAKER_03: Then I'm like, yeah, I must, this must be a parasite.
11:56
SPEAKER_03: Um, but yet, and still I didn't do anything for a while.
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SPEAKER_03: So I had been dealing with that itching for two years, by the way.
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SPEAKER_03: And I know it's so crazy, right?
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SPEAKER_03: To say that.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Two years.
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SPEAKER_03: But again, like now I'm more educated on parasites, but for a while I just wasn't.
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SPEAKER_03: I just, I just didn't really, I didn't really know and I didn't fully grasp the whole thing.
12:15
SPEAKER_03: But fast forward, I started with um his name is Dr.
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SPEAKER_03: Gandhi in New York.
12:21
SPEAKER_03: He's a biological dentist.
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Sam: Nice, he's great.
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Sam: Yeah, he's amazing, right?
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SPEAKER_03: So I I did the surgery um to the cavitation, uh, cleaning, you know, basically if you've ever had wisdom teeth removed, you know, uh ozone it, they don't red light it, they just seal it shut, yeah.
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Kim: Let all of it fester in there, right?
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Kim: And it creates microbes and issues.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
12:46
SPEAKER_03: So at most people have that infection from all of these, you know, improper extractions, right?
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SPEAKER_03: Over the years, builds up worms, you know, we eat.
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SPEAKER_03: Where do they go first half the time?
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SPEAKER_03: In your mouth, barrow, right?
12:57
SPEAKER_03: So he's pulling worms out of people's mouths.
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SPEAKER_03: He actually did not pull a worm out of my mouth, and he did not pull a worm out of Damon's mouth, shockingly.
13:04
SPEAKER_03: I would really, I was really looking for a worm out of Damon's mouth.
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SPEAKER_03: But um, so we did this whole surgery, and this is kind of like the start point for my parasite journey because he's like, all right, guess what?
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SPEAKER_03: Step two is parasite cleansing.
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SPEAKER_03: And actually, he had me on some of the medication, the antiparasitic drugs while I was going through the process with him.
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SPEAKER_03: Um and then he had us go see this guy, and his his his method is to use like heavy antiparasitic pharmaceutical drugs first, mixed with homeopathics for the support, right?
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SPEAKER_03: Um, because they're so harsh, right?
13:35
SPEAKER_03: And so I was doing that, I I've been actually doing that all summer.
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SPEAKER_03: And um I what I what I noticed is that it really stirs up a lot of activity as you're cleansing.
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SPEAKER_03: And now you'll know this best because I'm behind both of you ladies in this, but I was having a lot of uh, I was really feeling it down there.
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SPEAKER_03: I could feel them.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, and I actually uh I was in Japan over the summer and I was laying in the hotel room and oh TMI, I'm sorry.
14:06
SPEAKER_03: Never TMI.
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SPEAKER_03: We love it.
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SPEAKER_03: We love it.
14:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, go for it.
14:09
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna be like known as the uh the girl with the ass itching.
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SPEAKER_03: So I'm laying like our last two nights in the hotel room.
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SPEAKER_03: I actually felt maybe because the drugs stirred up the activity that they were about to die, I could feel a worm moving in and out of the area very clearly.
14:25
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, I know I'm not crazy, I know I'm not crazy, I know I'm not crazy.
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SPEAKER_03: I get back to New York, and sure enough, I see a big pinworm.
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SPEAKER_03: Big.
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SPEAKER_03: There was no question, and I always hear that pinworms are little.
14:37
SPEAKER_03: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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SPEAKER_03: We're we're like here.
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Kim: They're they're light and thread and white.
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Kim: That's why they're thread worms, they link together and they create what looks like a piece of thread.
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Kim: And it can be thick, it can be thin.
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SPEAKER_03: It was thick, it was it was big, and I just had to double check myself.
14:53
SPEAKER_03: So I, you know, Googled it and you know, ChatGPT talked to you know, chat.
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SPEAKER_03: I I was clear, it was a for sure pinword.
14:59
SPEAKER_03: I said, that's what's been going on for all these years.
15:02
SPEAKER_03: Now I know like I didn't see tons, people talk about masses coming out.
15:05
SPEAKER_03: I didn't have that by the way, maybe because I just didn't notice it all, but I did see different species over the cleanse period.
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SPEAKER_03: I know I peed out liver fluke, like a liver, and by the way, and maybe you can help me out because I was so unsure, but it was almost like not translucent, but like it was like lighter.
15:26
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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SPEAKER_03: But I was bleeding from that area too.
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SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, wait, how could it even go through that area?
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Kim: Well, because they are attached to our tissue.
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Kim: Okay.
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Kim: So they start to dislodge themselves off of the tissue.
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Kim: They're in our blood, our tissue, and our muscle.
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Kim: Okay.
15:40
Kim: And so when they start traveling through the body, specifically down to where they're gonna exit, right?
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Kim: They're hanging on to everything on the way out, or it was kind of near that area and it pulled itself off the tissue.
15:52
Kim: Wow.
15:52
Kim: Yeah.
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Kim: So if it looks like a there's like multiple ways to identify a fluke because they're long, um flat, and then they, you know, tomato skin up.
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Kim: Yep.
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Kim: And there's different kinds of flukes.
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Sam: Yeah.
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Sam: Because I've passed a bunch of blood flukes, and there's liver flukes.
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Sam: Yeah, and we have to remember our pee, like when you pee, that's also lymph.
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Sam: Yeah.
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Sam: Your lymphatic system exits through your pee, right?
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Sam: Right.
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Sam: Well, me, when I did her cleanse the first time on day three, I saw the first pin worm in the toilet.
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Sam: I saw the first thread worm in the toilet.
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Sam: And then after that, I saw hundreds leave me.
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Sam: Wow.
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Sam: And I also passed flukes and I also peed some out too.
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Sam: But for me and my body, my body used my nose as an exit point for over a hundred of them because of the lymph nodes.
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Sam: So they were hundreds of things.
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Sam: Yes, girl.
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Sam: I had hundreds of worms come out of my nose.
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Sam: Yeah, but I grew up in a small town in the mountains and we had well water, and I'm pretty sure that's how I got infested with them like that.
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Sam: Okay.
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Sam: But girl, it was like over 30 years before I got them out.
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Sam: Wow.
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Sam: Like I didn't know just like you.
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Sam: And I was like, how did I not know this?
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Sam: Especially being someone who, for a while, you're into the herbs, you're into the holistic lifestyle, and you're so drawn to those things, and like we miss parasites, you know?
17:07
Sam: We really hit it.
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Sam: And then you get hit with symptoms and you finally come into it, and it's time finally for like you to realize.
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Sam: Then you start to take the herbs and the antiparasetics, and they leave your body, and you're like, this is real.
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Sam: And you feel better.
17:20
Kim: So that just kind of brings back.
17:22
Kim: I had uh roundworm, flukes, and pin worms.
17:25
Kim: Uh I had shishomycin, which is like coats, it coats the reproductive system and causes the same type of symptoms as endometriosis.
17:36
Kim: And then when I started cleansing, I was peeing it out.
17:40
Kim: And that's why I went viral.
17:41
Kim: Because it came out my urine and my skin.
17:43
Kim: I mean, my exapoints, my skin, which I hate because it really affects my skin when I'm almost acne breakouts or rashes because it has to come out that way, right?
17:56
Kim: And urine.
17:56
Kim: It's the why it's so wild.
17:58
Kim: It's so wild how though when they're ready to come out, right?
18:00
Kim: Because they cycle.
18:01
Kim: So every seven to 21 days, yeah, they're cycling, which means you're cycling, and then whatever they decide to dump in their body is virus.
18:09
Kim: New offspring as well.
18:10
Sam: So that's why you have to continue to parasite cleanse.
18:12
Sam: It's never a one and done.
18:13
Sam: Oh, yeah.
18:14
Sam: Because they're dropping their offspring, right?
18:15
Sam: But I want to circle back to the dentist because you said they didn't find a worm.
18:19
SPEAKER_03: What did they find?
18:21
SPEAKER_03: Thank you for asking.
18:22
SPEAKER_03: I'll tell you.
18:23
SPEAKER_03: That's actually, I'm glad you brought that up.
18:24
SPEAKER_03: I always forgot.
18:25
SPEAKER_03: Um, so he did the blood samples and he found Lyme.
18:29
SPEAKER_03: So, and can I say, yeah, what's interesting about this is you know that lupus uh diagnosis I got all those years ago?
18:36
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
18:37
SPEAKER_03: Everyone always said, because lupus is very similar to Lyme in symptoms, right?
18:42
SPEAKER_03: So for years, everyone's like, wow, you seem like more of a Lyme patient than a lupus patient uh based on symptoms.
18:50
SPEAKER_03: Um, and I had been tested so many times.
18:53
SPEAKER_03: I mean, maybe a dozen, you know, the liza, the Western blood.
18:57
SPEAKER_03: Like we I've done all of that for so many years, so many different times, always negative, because if it's not active in your blood, as you know, it's not going to come up positive.
19:04
SPEAKER_03: And you know, there's a lot of reasons for that, right?
19:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
19:08
SPEAKER_03: So that came up in my jaw, which it hides in your organs.
19:12
SPEAKER_03: It's really good at hiding, right?
19:13
SPEAKER_03: So it it settles into different places in your body.
19:16
SPEAKER_03: So from that blood sample there, I have four strains of Lyme and the Babesia co-infection, which we know is very common to have.
19:24
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
19:24
SPEAKER_03: So I have that daemon has one strain, um, never really been affected, but we also um have or we we have a place in a very heavily wooded area that we always would hike in.
19:35
SPEAKER_03: So it's not shocking to find out something like that.
19:39
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I probably got that in my early 20s, so you know, but a lot of that kind of started to come together for me.
19:46
SPEAKER_03: And I said, Oh, well, this is making perfect sense now.
19:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, all these environmental toxins attacking your body.
19:52
Kim: And Lyme is very similar to lupus and MS.
19:56
Kim: I would been tested for MS twice.
19:58
Kim: They never tested me for Lyme.
20:00
Kim: I found out I had Lyme in 2023.
20:02
Kim: I tested myself, and I only had two strains.
20:05
Kim: Okay, but then I did TPE and I ended up getting Vabesia strain and from TPE?
20:11
Kim: Yeah, because let's tell me about it because we know you did it.
20:14
Kim: So let's talk about TPE.
20:16
Kim: Let's talk about it.
20:17
Kim: We're gonna talk because I put it on my list because I saw that you did it.
20:20
Kim: So I just want to say when I talk about these things, it's only because you're still doing the same type of treatments, but now you have other labels to help you and guide you on what to do.
20:32
Kim: I at first was like, oh my god, I I never thought I'd have Babecia, right?
20:36
Kim: And it came back positive after my TPE.
20:38
Kim: So I tested prior to my TPE, then I did my TPE and I did three rounds back to back, and then I tested again, and I had multiple strains of Boreella, and then Babecia popped up.
20:50
Kim: But I only had two strains of Boreella prior to TPE, and so they didn't even think that you can because you need three strains to be diagnosed with Lyme.
20:59
Kim: But I'm like, well, this is just what showed up in my blood in this moment at this day.
21:03
Kim: Break down why it could show up after TPE because it just dusts everything, like it just brings everything to the surface.
21:09
Kim: You're removing that plasma, that's where they hide, and then your body is creating new plasma, so it's pulling things, but it doesn't mean that it's stirred it up.
21:19
Kim: It stirred it up, yeah, it dusted it up, and so it's just a label, right?
21:23
Kim: We just go back to that and we just know that okay, well, that's what's in my body, and that can come and go when my stress level goes up, and that can come and go when I'm doing cleanses, and so you just have to recognize that label, and sometimes you just tweak what your treatment is, right?
21:39
Kim: Right, and you just keep doing that HBO, and you keep it doesn't like cold, by the way.
21:43
Kim: Lyme does not like cold exposure.
21:45
Kim: Okay, really?
21:47
Kim: Cryo or cold plunging?
21:48
SPEAKER_03: No, isn't that interesting?
21:50
SPEAKER_03: I, you know, we have all that.
21:51
SPEAKER_03: We have a cryo um machine, cold plunge.
21:55
SPEAKER_03: I have all of that, and I that's the only modalities that I have never done because.
22:00
SPEAKER_03: My gut always told me this is not for me.
22:02
SPEAKER_03: How funny.
22:02
SPEAKER_03: And Damon, Damon's always like, We have this.
22:05
SPEAKER_03: Why do you not go in it?
22:05
SPEAKER_03: And then we started learning that for some women's hormones, it's not even good anyway.
22:10
SPEAKER_03: At certain points, at certain times.
22:12
SPEAKER_03: Right.
22:12
SPEAKER_01: I wonder if you're not going to be able to strains in her telling her not to do it so they can stay alive.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: Because they've tapped into your nervous system.
22:20
Kim: They're telling you don't do it.
22:22
Kim: They're saying when mine, yeah.
22:24
Kim: Totally.
22:24
Kim: They are, yo.
22:25
Kim: They are.
22:26
Kim: They tell you what to eat, they're free demon, what to think.
22:28
Kim: They brainwash and control you.
22:30
Kim: All these organisms do.
22:31
Kim: Yeah, they don't do it.
22:32
Kim: They want to die.
22:32
Sam: They want to survive like we do.
22:33
Sam: Oh my gosh.
22:34
Sam: So I guess I better start doing it.
22:37
SPEAKER_03: My mother's always telling me don't do it because I'm thinking it's bad for me.
22:40
Sam: Just look at just look into what time of the month you should and shouldn't.
22:44
Sam: Okay.
22:44
Sam: Mudio phase, right before you shouldn't.
22:47
Sam: And during menstruation, you shouldn't.
22:49
Sam: This is the other two weeks, like follicular phase, go into the cold, girl.
22:53
Sam: Lean in.
22:53
Sam: Do the chronic.
22:56
SPEAKER_03: We've got to like really drill on this because for some reason, yeah, my body was always like, no, no, no.
23:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
23:02
SPEAKER_03: And also, can I add the rain odes that I get?
23:04
SPEAKER_03: I lose circulation in my fingertips and my nose.
23:06
SPEAKER_03: Even living in uh a warm climate now, um, I still occasionally get it.
23:11
SPEAKER_03: It depends.
23:12
SPEAKER_03: Usually if I'm flaring with something else, then it'll spike up a little bit like anything, right?
23:16
SPEAKER_03: Of course.
23:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
23:17
Sam: Extra sensitive, inflammation.
23:18
Sam: You're like, no, exactly.
23:20
Sam: Nothing too extreme right now.
23:21
Sam: Yeah.
23:21
Sam: Yeah.
23:21
SPEAKER_03: So that's why I also was unsure if I should go down that route because sometimes as I get older, I notice it's harder to pull that circulation back into my extremities.
23:30
SPEAKER_03: At least just give it a shot.
23:31
SPEAKER_01: So excited for it.
23:32
Kim: Just see it will be so different than you've experienced before.
23:36
Kim: Okay.
23:36
Kim: Because what you're gonna do is you'll go into that cryo or you'll cold plunge and then go right into your infrared sauna after, and it warms you up deep down in and internally changes the way that you feel the cold.
23:49
Kim: Interesting.
23:50
Kim: And so when I'm in a flare, I will literally plunge for 10 minutes and meditate in there because the inflammation is starting to leave my body and they're they're they're coming out of that biofilm.
24:02
Kim: So the problem with spare keys like lime is that they burrow down, right?
24:07
Kim: And then they put like this bubble of biofilm on top of it.
24:11
Kim: And so it's so hard to pull them out of it.
24:13
Kim: And when you put cold into your body, they immediately start to feel inhospitable and start to move out, and you can feel it moving out.
24:21
Kim: The inflammation goes down, your thought process and your brain fog starts to go away, even with just the three minutes going into that cryo.
24:30
Kim: That's it.
24:30
Sam: If you're easing into cold, start with cryo because you don't get to wear gloves, you get to wear things that actually help keep those parts warm.
24:36
Sam: I'll try it.
24:37
SPEAKER_03: And let me add to another modality when you're talking about biofilm.
24:40
SPEAKER_03: And I I actually saw a direct correlation of getting rid of biofilm from the biocharger.
24:47
SPEAKER_03: Have you heard of the biocharger?
24:49
SPEAKER_03: Yes, we know the biocharger things.
24:51
SPEAKER_03: We love the biofilm.
24:52
SPEAKER_03: Frequency things, you know.
24:54
SPEAKER_03: I have to tell you, and I do the biofilm setting on that the next day or two, I see it come out.
25:00
SPEAKER_03: Like, no joke, I can't make this up.
25:02
SPEAKER_03: I said it to my husband.
25:04
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, are you noticing that?
25:05
SPEAKER_03: Because we actually do that like as a couple.
25:07
SPEAKER_03: It's kind of how we catch up because you can't really be on your phone or electronics around the biocharger.
25:12
SPEAKER_03: So we do that at night when he's home and we sit and do a couple settings before bed.
25:17
SPEAKER_03: But um, I don't, I can't speak for him, but for myself, yeah, I'm getting rid of biofilm.
25:22
SPEAKER_03: There's a frequency.
25:23
SPEAKER_03: That's why.
25:24
Kim: And then you should bind when you're done with the biofilm.
25:27
Kim: You have to bind.
25:28
Kim: Okay, good.
25:28
Kim: And a fulvic binder for the biofilm is really the best way.
25:33
Kim: The charcoal can be really harsh, but the fulvic will help like Shilogy or I like a toxin pole.
25:40
Kim: It's a fulvic base.
25:41
Kim: We're working on one at Rogers Hood.
25:42
Kim: Okay.
25:42
Kim: So because we only have a charcoal binder, and I know, like myself, I'm I have a hard time with charcoal.
25:47
Kim: And so the fulvic helps bind the biofilms.
25:51
Kim: But what's really cool about that is whatever's in that biofilm is also being moved out.
25:55
Kim: So they're a frequency.
25:57
Kim: Yeah.
25:58
Kim: And they're a frequency, they have their own hurts.
26:00
Kim: Yes.
26:01
Kim: And so that's what's so hard when you have a chronic illness in the autoimmune, is you're waking up, pushing a boulder up a hill immediately.
26:08
Kim: Yes.
26:09
Kim: And then you've got to get your body to the rest and digest in that homeostasis level for us to be able to function throughout the day.
26:16
Kim: Yeah.
26:17
SPEAKER_03: No, I I I hear you.
26:18
SPEAKER_03: And I do I switch back and forth from two different binders just to like a stronger one.
26:22
SPEAKER_03: It's mixed with the charcoal and the benzenite clay if I was saying that right, and the zeolites, or I'll just do like the zeolites separate.
26:29
SPEAKER_03: It just depends, you know, how I'm feeling that day.
26:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
26:32
SPEAKER_03: And I also make my daughter do it too.
26:33
SPEAKER_03: Good.
26:34
SPEAKER_03: She does all the modalities.
26:35
SPEAKER_03: She actually did a parasite cleanse.
26:37
SPEAKER_03: Oh, wow.
26:37
SPEAKER_03: I had her do the heavy one.
26:38
SPEAKER_03: Like I said, so you like cleansing as a family.
26:41
SPEAKER_03: We do the cleansing as a family.
26:43
SPEAKER_03: We cleanse as a family.
26:44
SPEAKER_03: And you want to know what?
26:45
SPEAKER_03: I actually was thinking about this a few weeks ago.
26:47
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, you know, those damn pin worms.
26:49
SPEAKER_03: It's came from my kitty, I bet.
26:51
SPEAKER_03: Because being in school, the kids, you know, they're itching down there.
26:54
SPEAKER_03: Of course, they're touching with their fingers.
26:56
SPEAKER_03: It's under their fingers.
26:56
SPEAKER_03: And guess what?
26:57
SPEAKER_03: I didn't even know this.
26:58
SPEAKER_03: I know you'll know this.
26:59
SPEAKER_03: I didn't know it's airborne.
27:00
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
27:01
SPEAKER_03: I didn't know that it's laying on your bed sheets that when you go to change your sheets, it's almost shaking into the air and it can live on a surface for a few weeks.
27:07
SPEAKER_03: What the heck?
27:07
SPEAKER_03: No wonder.
27:08
SPEAKER_03: That's why they say you people get infected by families.
27:11
SPEAKER_03: And then I also read that 40 million Americans average have this infection.
27:15
Kim: It can be up to 60 million.
27:17
Kim: And that number has stayed the same through the CDC since 2020.
27:21
Kim: Wow.
27:22
Kim: They've never changed that number of 60 million.
27:23
Kim: And then we think it's way more.
27:25
Sam: We think it's more.
27:26
Sam: I believe that.
27:27
Sam: Because it's because how many people even get tested?
27:29
Sam: You know, a lot of people don't have symptoms, right?
27:31
Sam: Right.
27:31
Sam: Exactly.
27:32
Sam: Yeah.
27:32
SPEAKER_03: And I think that, you know, when we hear, especially children say, Oh, I'm having itching down there, they're like, oh, honey, you need to wipe better.
27:39
SPEAKER_03: But nah.
27:41
SPEAKER_03: I hate that when people say that.
27:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
27:43
SPEAKER_03: And I I look at that completely different now because that is just a very common thing.
27:47
SPEAKER_03: Go wipe, go wipe again, honey.
27:49
SPEAKER_03: You know, my daughter was definitely having it.
27:51
SPEAKER_03: And I said, I bet you we all had it.
27:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
27:53
Kim: You know what I mean?
27:54
Kim: It's lice of the butt.
27:56
Kim: Once one of you has it, you all have it, and you all have to do some sort of a cleanse in order to get it moved out.
28:02
Kim: And pinworms don't just leave, they live in your appendix.
28:06
Kim: So I didn't know that.
28:07
Kim: In your appendix.
28:09
Kim: That's their house.
28:09
Kim: That's where they prefer to live.
28:11
Kim: And there's a few nurses that I've spoken with that people have had their appendixes removed because myself included, I don't have an appendix.
28:20
Kim: Yeah, I've had 13 surgeries, and one of them was an appendix removal because it was so inflamed and so big.
28:28
Kim: And then two years later, I found out I had worms.
28:32
Kim: Yeah.
28:32
Kim: Did you have your gallbladder?
28:33
Kim: Yeah, I saw my gallbladder.
28:35
Kim: Yeah.
28:35
Kim: Fingers crossed, no more organs.
28:37
SPEAKER_03: Do you know?
28:39
SPEAKER_03: My gosh, you've been through it.
28:40
Kim: I've I've lost a I've I think we're at like six or seven.
28:43
Kim: I've total hysterectomy.
28:45
SPEAKER_03: My mom had it done at like 24 years old.
28:48
SPEAKER_03: Like right after she gave birth to me and my brother.
28:50
SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh.
28:51
SPEAKER_03: She had the surgery done.
28:52
SPEAKER_03: And then it makes me wonder, you know, because everything's passed on from the mother of like issues that you have.
28:57
SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, I didn't have any issues like that, but I'm saying like the toxic load and the infections, all the things that we suffer from, right?
29:04
SPEAKER_03: So years of all of these problems.
29:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
29:07
Kim: Mold mold passed to me in your mouth.
29:10
Kim: Yeah, multi-metals, lead mercury through the roof.
29:13
Kim: That is through was through the roof for you.
29:15
Kim: Were you tested present for me?
29:17
SPEAKER_03: Right right now, my lead and mercury are really, really high.
29:19
SPEAKER_03: And I thought when I did the blood, you know, it's not as good as doing that.
29:23
SPEAKER_03: Um, that urine, that that three or what is it, the three, the chelation test where they that's what really showed it.
29:29
SPEAKER_03: For me, I never showed lead on a blood test.
29:32
SPEAKER_03: Um, I always showed mercury or arsenic.
29:34
SPEAKER_03: Arsenic is down finally, but mercury, I got it down really low, but not when I did that urine chelation test.
29:40
SPEAKER_03: The lead and the mercury are so sky high.
29:43
SPEAKER_03: So I'm working on that right now.
29:45
SPEAKER_03: But mold, yes.
29:46
SPEAKER_03: The last time I had that checked, I have a lot of different types of mold.
29:51
SPEAKER_03: And you know, even living in Florida, the moldiest place in the world.
29:55
SPEAKER_03: Of course, it's crazy.
29:58
SPEAKER_03: And by the way, every year I check um where we live for any exposure.
30:04
SPEAKER_03: I'm just crazy with it.
30:05
SPEAKER_03: I just, I don't need that in my life.
30:07
SPEAKER_03: Like, like, let's not love that about that.
30:10
SPEAKER_03: They're proactive.
30:11
SPEAKER_03: That's how that's how you're I call myself crazy because I I people literally are like, you go too far sometimes.
30:15
Kim: Oh, I love it, Heather.
30:17
Kim: No, I love it because you're proactive.
30:19
Kim: Look at what you're doing for your family and look at what you're showing everybody that's listening, and look at how you're validating this is a real issue.
30:27
Kim: Environmental toxins are real.
30:29
Kim: And Western medicine has just kind of put brushed them under the rug, said, no, you're crazy.
30:35
Kim: Yeah.
30:36
Kim: When in reality, they have affected our bodies in such ways because I just don't think they know.
30:41
SPEAKER_03: They don't know.
30:41
SPEAKER_03: And then when you're always having symptoms and you're you just know yourself, you're like, I gotta, you know, I have to double check this or I have to eliminate this.
30:47
SPEAKER_03: And other people are like, oh, well, now that you're parasite cleansing, well, what's the difference?
30:51
SPEAKER_03: You're just gonna cleanse all the time.
30:52
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, no, because maybe, you know, your detox pathways are a little more open than mine.
30:56
SPEAKER_03: So if I just keep loading myself like uh eating pork or salmon and sushi continuously, knowing that they're contaminated, we know that they are.
31:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm just re-adding it and I can't get rid of it.
31:08
SPEAKER_03: Maybe you can get rid of it.
31:10
SPEAKER_03: I can't.
31:10
SPEAKER_03: Like use as a conversation.
31:12
Sam: And that's fine.
31:12
Sam: Everyone's so different.
31:13
Sam: And yeah, you're right.
31:14
Sam: If you keep filling your toxic bucket, it's like you, you're I don't think you're doing too much or overboard.
31:20
Sam: What's too much in modern day?
31:22
Sam: Right.
31:22
Sam: Like we're exposed to so much more now than like our ancestors were even.
31:26
Sam: And so we have to have these new tools and modalities to assist us absolutely to remove them out of our body.
31:32
Sam: That's right.
31:33
SPEAKER_03: And can I tell you, you know, I it's been almost a year.
31:38
SPEAKER_03: No, maybe it's probably almost a year I fully give up salmon.
31:42
SPEAKER_03: Pork, same thing, and sushi.
31:44
SPEAKER_03: However, I did go to Japan over the summer.
31:46
Sam: I wasn't gonna ask when you were there, did you?
31:48
SPEAKER_03: I did.
31:49
SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
31:49
SPEAKER_03: I was in the middle of the cleanse and I said, you know what?
31:52
SPEAKER_03: Screw it.
31:52
SPEAKER_03: If I'm gonna be doing it, I'm in Japan.
31:55
SPEAKER_03: Cleansing.
31:56
SPEAKER_01: I'm cleansing, so I do your life.
31:58
SPEAKER_03: This is this is the only time I'll do it.
32:00
SPEAKER_03: And I didn't eat it every day.
32:02
SPEAKER_03: I maybe had it like two times.
32:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
32:03
SPEAKER_03: You know, in moderation.
32:05
SPEAKER_03: Moderation.
32:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
32:06
SPEAKER_03: But I will tell you, yeah, no, I'm I'm done.
32:08
SPEAKER_03: I will not eat sushi generally anymore.
32:11
SPEAKER_03: Not generally.
32:12
SPEAKER_03: I'm not eating sushi anymore unless I go back to Japan, maybe once.
32:15
SPEAKER_03: But that's a that's another conversation.
32:17
SPEAKER_03: Only in Japan.
32:18
SPEAKER_03: But in for Sam, the reason why I officially gave it up, it took two times to see worms for me.
32:23
SPEAKER_03: The first time I was grilling um in the summer, and I found one in my salmon steak.
32:27
SPEAKER_03: Oh, and I and it wasn't enough to make me stop.
32:30
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
32:30
SPEAKER_03: I still got rid of it and I ate it, and I'm like, uh, maybe I'm crazy.
32:34
SPEAKER_03: And then six months later, um, I I had another filet, a salmon filet, and I was eating it, and I was just finishing it, and then I saw something.
32:42
SPEAKER_03: I said, Oh, maybe that's just a tendon.
32:43
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
32:44
SPEAKER_03: Because they they're like white, you know.
32:46
SPEAKER_03: I know.
32:47
SPEAKER_03: So I separated it and I put it by itself and it was moving.
32:51
Kim: Oh, did you get it on video?
32:53
SPEAKER_03: No.
32:53
SPEAKER_03: I called him.
32:54
SPEAKER_03: My husband was traveling and I called him.
32:56
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, Damon, there was a worm in my salmon.
32:58
SPEAKER_03: I'm done with this.
32:59
SPEAKER_03: So he's like, Are you serious?
33:01
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, yeah, I'm done.
33:02
SPEAKER_03: And I used to give salmon to my daughter.
33:04
SPEAKER_03: It's her favorite, her favorite fish as well.
33:06
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, I used to give it to her so much.
33:08
SPEAKER_03: I mean, she was eating salmon like three to four days a week, me too, for years.
33:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
33:13
SPEAKER_03: It's just, I love that's my favorite fish.
33:15
SPEAKER_03: It's my favorite too.
33:16
Kim: Right?
33:16
Kim: I miss it so much, but I can't get past it.
33:18
Kim: I can't look at it the same way.
33:20
Kim: Yeah, we can't be like, why?
33:21
Kim: Why would I want to cause myself even more harm?
33:24
Kim: Would I know?
33:25
Kim: Like, that's just negligent of myself.
33:27
Kim: But you know, I'm with you.
33:29
Kim: I miss it.
33:29
Kim: I can do a barbecue salmon, like no one's business.
33:32
Kim: I would eat it three, four times.
33:33
Kim: We'd eat sushi three, four times.
33:35
Kim: Like this was a normal thing for us.
33:38
Kim: We loved the seafood, but I can't get past it.
33:40
SPEAKER_03: I can either baby back ribs or sorry, I love that too, but it's over.
33:43
SPEAKER_03: Right.
33:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right.
33:44
Kim: I mean, unless that bacon is crisp, I'm not doing it.
33:47
Kim: I just won't even touch that.
33:49
Kim: But if you're gonna, if you're gonna go out on a limb and eat it, then you should do, you know, a parasite cleanse.
33:55
Kim: We say like paraphy right before, right before you eat questionably, then eat questionably and then take it right after because it's creating an inhospitable environment for them.
34:05
Kim: And so when you eat something that might have it in it, then the wormwood and the organ grape rooters going in and like making it so they don't want to stay in you.
34:14
Kim: It just moves preventative.
34:15
Kim: It's like a digestive enzyme, right?
34:17
Kim: It's just kind of moving it out, and they're like, Oh God, I don't want to stay in you.
34:20
Kim: Right.
34:20
Kim: Right.
34:21
Kim: And so we have I've kind of gotten that down, but I still can't, I can't get past it.
34:25
Kim: The only thing I eat questionably is crab, and that has to be cooked and steamed.
34:30
Kim: So no raw.
34:31
Kim: Well done.
34:32
Kim: Just well done.
34:32
Kim: Yeah, everything has to be cooked.
34:34
Kim: You're just not in a society that we can have that anymore.
34:37
Sam: Yeah.
34:37
Sam: So I know you said like everyone in your life is like, Heather, be quiet about the parasites, like right?
34:42
Sam: But online, you and Damon right now are making a lot of noise.
34:47
Sam: How has everyone been responding and receiving to you guys being so loud online on social media about parasites?
34:54
SPEAKER_03: Well, a lot of people are asking a lot of questions, and I I always hesitate because I'm like, gosh, we're just enthusiasts.
35:00
SPEAKER_03: Are we posting about our experience and I'm not an expert?
35:03
SPEAKER_03: I can't, you know, drill all the way down into it.
35:05
SPEAKER_03: You know, I could send you to people refer you know to Kim and do her cleanse and everything.
35:10
SPEAKER_03: But I am, you know, I sometimes I feel it's a it's it's overwhelming sometimes, but I want to help people and tell them my story and you know what I know, you know.
35:21
SPEAKER_03: I sometimes I'm like, ah, I don't know that much.
35:23
SPEAKER_03: But then I'm like, no, I probably know a little bit more than the average because some people are not even on parasites yet, and it's taboo to them and um they don't exist.
35:32
SPEAKER_03: Yes, they exist.
35:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
35:34
SPEAKER_03: Um, but no, I I like helping people, and a lot of people, even with our um shark Jevity, you know, we kind of pre-names a company just to kind of, as David says, have a North Star because later on when you develop something and you, you know, you can't get that name back, let's just call it what it's gonna be now.
35:49
SPEAKER_03: So we're um, you know, a lot of people come to us and like, hey, I I see you on a lot of different machines, and where do I get these machines?
35:56
SPEAKER_03: I want to build out my office, um, my home.
36:00
SPEAKER_03: A lot of people are building homes now and they want to have wellness rooms.
36:02
SPEAKER_03: They're like, what do I need?
36:04
SPEAKER_03: You know, what are the if I have to pick three uh machines, what are the top three?
36:08
SPEAKER_03: What do you recommend?
36:09
SPEAKER_03: So that's where we're getting into the consulting and helping people with the top, what are your top favorite modalities?
36:15
Sam: My top uh modality queen over here.
36:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we have so many machines, like literally, it's in the bedroom, yeah, the corner of this, you know, living room.
36:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
36:26
SPEAKER_03: They're shoved everywhere, guys.
36:28
Sam: Um, my top what are like your go-tos like that make you feel better or you love doing them because you feel so good when you do them?
36:34
Sam: What are they?
36:35
SPEAKER_03: I guess I love my red light.
36:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we have a few different red light beds.
36:40
SPEAKER_03: I like the red light.
36:41
SPEAKER_03: I I feel good with the red light.
36:44
SPEAKER_03: Um, I love the balancer pro.
36:46
SPEAKER_03: The lymphatic drainage.
36:48
SPEAKER_04: You shouldn't say that.
36:48
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
36:50
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
36:50
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
36:51
SPEAKER_03: Balancer Pro.
36:52
SPEAKER_03: I I've had that one for like four years.
36:55
Sam: It's so relaxing too, right?
36:56
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
36:57
SPEAKER_03: I I really, yes, I love that for aesthetic reasons too.
37:00
SPEAKER_03: Nice.
37:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
37:02
SPEAKER_03: Um, and I'm gonna say more than three um because then I'm gonna go into the pemph mat, the grounding mats are very nice.
37:07
Sam: Do you like the one that's intense that you feel it when it's a hocket?
37:11
SPEAKER_03: I have a the pure wave mat.
37:13
SPEAKER_03: Um, I have the Hugo that actually comes paired with the hocket.
37:17
Kim: Yeah, that's the one you can feel.
37:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's the one you can feel.
37:20
SPEAKER_03: That's really strong.
37:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we love that one.
37:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's real.
37:25
SPEAKER_03: That's real deal.
37:26
SPEAKER_03: The hocket is awesome.
37:27
SPEAKER_03: That's that one I love that works on frequency and um you get ozone and the trans transdermal.
37:33
SPEAKER_03: I love that one.
37:34
SPEAKER_03: That's actually one of my favorites.
37:35
SPEAKER_03: And you can you can pick your frequency, your issue if you want to work on like parasites or lime, like you know, whatever, you know.
37:42
SPEAKER_03: Hopefully, it you know, it's working.
37:43
SPEAKER_03: I've been using it, it's definitely a favorite.
37:46
SPEAKER_03: Um, hyperbaric chamber.
37:48
SPEAKER_03: We love it.
37:49
SPEAKER_03: We love our protocol, our protocol for hyperbaric chamber.
37:52
SPEAKER_03: We have um a 2.0 ATA uh machine now.
37:57
SPEAKER_03: Like for a long time, we um well, we also have the Oxy Health one, the 1.4.
38:01
SPEAKER_03: And that one's amazing too.
38:03
SPEAKER_03: But you know, I for different reasons.
38:05
SPEAKER_03: I use them for different reasons.
38:06
SPEAKER_03: But um, right now I'm like loving the uh protocol for one.
38:10
SPEAKER_03: That one is awesome.
38:12
SPEAKER_03: Um, especially I'm I still like to say I'm still healing from my my surgery.
38:16
SPEAKER_03: I think it takes a long time, especially like nerve regeneration, and you know, so yeah, I I kind of do that too.
38:23
SPEAKER_03: I'm trying to think the biocharger.
38:25
SPEAKER_03: I don't I go through phase, I'm jumping all over here.
38:28
SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry.
38:29
SPEAKER_03: I'm thinking it's not like a survey, but I I go through phases.
38:32
SPEAKER_03: Like sometimes I'll be like really on one for like three, four weeks, and then I'm gonna like start, you know, go to another combination.
38:39
Sam: That's healthy.
38:39
Sam: You're listening to your body, yeah, it's always telling you like what so whatever you're drawn to, that's typically what you need.
38:45
Sam: Right.
38:46
Sam: And then pay attention to the nose because sometimes it is your body being like no, sometimes it's and sometimes it's the environmental toxins.
38:52
Sam: You know what you're right.
38:53
SPEAKER_03: Can I tell you one time, as much as I love the Balancer Pro and I am a huge fan of that machine, one time, no, several times I was in it and I just was like, I need to get out, I need to get out.
39:02
SPEAKER_03: Like I was just like, I something was I I couldn't take the restriction, not like anxiety.
39:06
SPEAKER_03: I don't have that, I don't have claustrophobia whatsoever.
39:09
SPEAKER_03: But something like my body was screaming to get out of that, and it makes you wonder like your behavior, your behavior for why you feel the way you feel.
39:16
SPEAKER_03: And then I know you've talked about parasites controlling those types of things, you know, and our cravings and insomnia, what we think, and yes, insomnia.
39:25
Kim: Anxiety.
39:25
Kim: Well, they live a lot in our small intestines, especially if you have pin worms.
39:29
Kim: Yeah, they live in like a full cycle there, but they tell you to feel bad about yourself and have anxiety because that's where that emotion comes from.
39:37
Kim: Our body produces that emotion in our small intestine.
39:40
Kim: Oh, and so self-worth.
39:42
Kim: Yeah, self-worth.
39:43
Kim: That's when I know it's time to cleanse, is when my low self-worth hits, and I call Sam and I'm like, I am just not feeling good about myself.
39:49
Kim: She's like, go cleanse, like, go grab it for a few days and just really cycle through.
39:54
Kim: And the overgrowth.
39:56
Kim: That's the whole point of this.
39:58
Kim: The whole point is to calm the overgrowth so the symptoms don't come forth.
40:02
Kim: Right.
40:03
Kim: And so, whatever that looks like for you, or whatever that looks like for anybody that's going on this journey, that's the point of it.
40:09
Kim: Yeah, and just like Candida, right?
40:11
Kim: It's an overgrowth of yeast that's in our body, and they all live together because they all enjoy the same problems.
40:16
Kim: They love that sugar and they love the salt and they love things that make them get energy.
40:22
Kim: And so when you start having that sugar cream, what are you a sweet tooth girl?
40:26
SPEAKER_03: I I am a sweet tooth.
40:27
SPEAKER_03: I just saw her.
40:27
SPEAKER_03: She was like, sugar, sugar.
40:29
SPEAKER_03: That's that's been my biggest issue my whole life.
40:32
SPEAKER_03: And and I wanted to tell you both about that because from the cleanse, and in between each two-week belt of my cleanse, it was like a three-section thing.
40:41
SPEAKER_03: I did a liver and gallbladder cleanse in between.
40:44
SPEAKER_03: Um, I know some people agree, some people don't agree with that.
40:48
SPEAKER_03: Sure.
40:48
SPEAKER_03: I had to like start reading the book on the person who created that cleanse because I'm like, I was a little skeptical.
40:54
SPEAKER_03: Like, why am I doing this again?
40:55
SPEAKER_03: Why am I drinking Epsom salt and olive oil and uh, you know, taking malic acid and parts, whatever?
41:02
SPEAKER_03: Sure, you know, it's cold.
41:03
SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
41:04
SPEAKER_03: And it's like a seven-day cleanse in between the parasite thing.
41:07
SPEAKER_03: So I'm like, this is never ending.
41:08
SPEAKER_03: Um, but you know, these green objects, I don't know.
41:11
SPEAKER_03: Have you done that one?
41:12
SPEAKER_03: Have you done a goblin?
41:14
SPEAKER_03: I know all about it.
41:14
SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
41:14
SPEAKER_03: I know about it.
41:15
SPEAKER_03: You do know about it.
41:16
SPEAKER_03: And what is the guy's name?
41:17
SPEAKER_03: And um Andrea Maurice, or he's the person.
41:20
Sam: And and you lay on one side after you do it when you go, and then you're supposed to wake up and pass all of these stones, right?
41:25
Sam: So did it work?
41:26
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
41:27
SPEAKER_03: So, well, I I did it three times now.
41:28
SPEAKER_03: First time, no.
41:29
SPEAKER_03: Second time, yes.
41:30
SPEAKER_03: I passed a bunch of the they call green objects.
41:33
SPEAKER_03: Stone.
41:33
SPEAKER_03: This thing.
41:33
SPEAKER_03: These are stones.
41:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
41:35
SPEAKER_03: They're not all like super calcified, you know.
41:37
SPEAKER_03: Some people, I guess they can be.
41:39
SPEAKER_03: Um, but you know, when you take like that malic acid, and I guess the ultra foss liquid is supposed to soften it to open up the bile ducts to let them pass through.
41:50
SPEAKER_03: So the third time I did it, which was uh two weeks ago, uh, oh my gosh, a lot, a lot.
41:56
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
41:56
SPEAKER_03: And I was so sick, I couldn't, oh gosh, what like nauseous?
42:00
SPEAKER_03: Like what?
42:01
SPEAKER_03: I just I couldn't, I couldn't eat for days.
42:03
SPEAKER_03: I was just so dehydrated because my body was just purging, purging, purging, purging it.
42:08
SPEAKER_03: And I think from the third time of doing this is when I said, you know what, this does count for something.
42:12
SPEAKER_03: This is this is clearly, and I'm in the middle of reading the book.
42:16
SPEAKER_03: I'm only on page 80, so I I can't speak too strongly.
42:19
SPEAKER_03: I wish I was a little further to talk a more deeper about it because I'm trying to understand it myself.
42:23
SPEAKER_03: Of course, yeah.
42:24
SPEAKER_03: But I said, what I do understand is that, you know, between the gallbladder and the liver, you know, these these stones accumulate and they're blocking your the function of these organs.
42:34
SPEAKER_03: And eventually, what does that turn into?
42:36
Sam: Backup, dis-ease, of course.
42:38
SPEAKER_03: It's a blockage.
42:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, your body can't it doesn't know what to do.
42:41
Kim: It's like, oh, I've never experienced this before.
42:44
Kim: Let me go and get all of my army to figure out what it is.
42:48
Kim: And but they have it has to take energy away from that department in your body in order to help now what is in a crisis, and that's when other organs then start to get weakened because it's fighting against certain things it doesn't even know what to do.
43:02
Kim: Right.
43:03
Sam: Like and it wants to heal.
43:05
Sam: Everything you're doing is preventative.
43:06
Sam: It's so good.
43:07
Sam: And you're so not crazy, and you're so not over.
43:10
Sam: Nothing is overkill.
43:12
Sam: How can you do too much in a modern day when disease is more rampant and normalized than ever?
43:18
Sam: Ever.
43:18
Sam: Like, why why just submit to that and be like, yeah, as you get older, you're just you just get sick.
43:23
Sam: Like, that's not true.
43:24
Sam: It's not true.
43:25
Kim: Your body wants to heal, it really does.
43:27
Kim: You cut yourself, it heals itself.
43:29
Kim: That's the job of it.
43:30
Kim: Yeah, but we've just not been taught.
43:33
Kim: I mean, that's really where this all stems down.
43:35
Kim: I know.
43:36
SPEAKER_03: We can't talk about anything else right now.
43:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
43:38
SPEAKER_03: In my life, yeah.
43:39
Kim: I mean, that's why you're here.
43:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
43:42
Sam: I love talking about them.
43:43
Sam: I love it.
43:44
Sam: I love that you do it because you did have to at one point make a decision like, okay, I am gonna go online and tell people I had itchy butt.
43:50
Sam: Like, like, it's not cute, it's not sexy, but like it's true.
43:55
Sam: I had to decide the same thing, girl.
43:56
Sam: I was like, do I go online and tell people worms came out of my nose?
43:59
Sam: Like, it's so Not sexy.
44:00
Sam: I took the moon.
44:02
Sam: Right.
44:02
SPEAKER_03: I mean, two years ago, I couldn't, I wouldn't have been able to talk about that publicly.
44:11
SPEAKER_03: I would, there's no way two years.
44:13
SPEAKER_03: The only two people who knew was my husband and uh Sage.
44:17
SPEAKER_03: I'm so glad you had Sage.
44:18
SPEAKER_03: She's the only other person that knew.
44:20
SPEAKER_03: Like, I couldn't talk about it.
44:22
SPEAKER_03: I was like, this is so embarrassing.
44:23
SPEAKER_03: I know, right?
44:24
Kim: Now I'm like openly talking about like it's embarrassing only because we've made it that way instead of us educating, right?
44:32
Kim: And that's so great that you are out there talking about it.
44:35
Kim: It really is important for people to hear this.
44:37
Sam: Yeah.
44:38
Sam: I'm sorry, but once you see a worm leave your body, you're changed.
44:42
Sam: Like I've seen like three different species that wow.
44:45
Sam: So what all have you seen?
44:46
Sam: So the fluke that fluke that you peed out.
44:48
Sam: Yes.
44:48
Sam: Definitely white streaming.
44:50
Sam: So we know pinworm for sure.
44:51
Sam: What else have you seen?
44:51
SPEAKER_03: And I don't know what the other one was.
44:53
SPEAKER_03: And listen, I am sure there is way more that has come out that I just didn't notice.
44:57
SPEAKER_03: Or see, sure.
44:58
SPEAKER_03: Microscopic.
44:59
SPEAKER_03: And our toilet is like one of those like auto flushes.
45:01
SPEAKER_03: So you got like five seconds in.
45:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
45:04
Kim: So you're a kind of a flusher cleanser.
45:06
Kim: Yeah.
45:06
Kim: There's the flusher, the looker, and the digger.
45:08
Kim: So you're not a digger.
45:11
Kim: Okay.
45:11
Kim: She's not a cleaner.
45:12
Kim: I'm not a digger.
45:12
Kim: But can I turn the auto off on the toilet?
45:14
Kim: I think I'm going to next time.
45:16
SPEAKER_03: I think I'm going to next time.
45:17
SPEAKER_03: Just give myself a little bit more time to look.
45:19
SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, Damon, he's like, I'm not.
45:21
SPEAKER_03: He's a flusher.
45:22
SPEAKER_03: He's a flusher.
45:23
SPEAKER_03: He doesn't want to.
45:24
SPEAKER_03: He doesn't even want to see it.
45:24
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, well, how do you know it's working?
45:25
SPEAKER_03: He's like, I don't know.
45:26
SPEAKER_03: He's like, I'm just trusting it's working.
45:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:28
SPEAKER_03: He he's all about it, totally invested, but he's just like, I'm not going to investigate.
45:33
SPEAKER_03: I'm sure it's there.
45:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:35
SPEAKER_03: Um, I think next time, though, I'll take a little bit more time.
45:37
SPEAKER_03: But when I was doing the liver and gallbladder cleanse, there is something very specific that did happen.
45:41
SPEAKER_03: And I actually had to call Dr.
45:42
SPEAKER_03: Gandhi, who did the um biologic dentistry surgery on me.
45:46
SPEAKER_03: Uh, he, you know, gosh, this is TMI.
45:51
SPEAKER_03: But you when you're going, when you're flushing, you know, it's, you know, the objects are coming.
45:56
SPEAKER_03: And then something really hard came out.
45:59
SPEAKER_03: And I I it was I heard it audibly.
46:02
SPEAKER_03: It was really loud.
46:03
SPEAKER_03: And I I I called him and said, What is this, Dr.
46:06
SPEAKER_03: G?
46:06
SPEAKER_03: He goes, Oh, he's like, You got one of those.
46:08
SPEAKER_03: That's great.
46:09
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, What the heck was it?
46:10
SPEAKER_03: He's like, That must have been one of those like cyst-filled sacks.
46:13
SPEAKER_03: He's like, You know, there's worms in there.
46:14
SPEAKER_03: And I said, Are you serious?
46:16
SPEAKER_03: He said, Yes.
46:16
SPEAKER_03: I think either him or his wife has had that happen before.
46:19
SPEAKER_03: And he's like, That's the goal.
46:20
SPEAKER_03: If you get that out during that cleanse, that's great.
46:23
SPEAKER_03: Generations.
46:24
Kim: You just got generations out of you know, they can produce like pinworms can produce 65, 70,000 eggs a day, and then tapeworms is a million.
46:35
Kim: So million a day, yes, million eggs.
46:38
Kim: That's insane.
46:39
Kim: Yeah.
46:39
Kim: And it so when you remove a sac, you just removed I didn't know what a sack was.
46:45
SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
46:46
SPEAKER_03: I didn't ever I never heard of that, but it came out during the liver gallbladder cleanse.
46:50
Kim: Wow.
46:51
Kim: So not even antiparasitics.
46:52
Kim: Yeah, well, I mean, you've made it so inhospitable that they're not getting fed the same way.
46:57
Kim: And so they're gonna leave because even though it's not just an antiparasitic herb, they're still gonna leave because you've made your body like they don't want to live in.
47:06
Sam: Your frequency, yeah, they don't want to live in you.
47:08
Sam: You're not an ideal place for them to live.
47:10
Sam: Your environment isn't, they can't thrive in you anymore.
47:13
Sam: Yeah, you you stay on top of it too much, you do too many things from the frequency to the infrared to all the modalities you do, plus the herbs and the cleanses, girl, you're not a breeding ground for them anymore.
47:23
Kim: Yeah, yeah.
47:24
Kim: Not the perfect host anymore.
47:26
Kim: And they don't want to stay in a non-perfect host.
47:29
Kim: Yeah, they just want to bail out.
47:31
SPEAKER_03: Right.
47:31
SPEAKER_03: And I and I have to say one other thing.
47:33
SPEAKER_03: Since I did, you know, the three months of cleansing, I gotta say one thing that I notice that for the first time in my life, I'll say everyone says, Well, what do you notice?
47:41
SPEAKER_03: How do you feel afterwards?
47:42
SPEAKER_03: The only thing I can say is that having sugar is more of a decision I make than a craving.
47:49
SPEAKER_03: Except when I'm on my cycle.
47:51
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
47:52
SPEAKER_03: That day of or day before, that I can't get away from.
47:56
SPEAKER_03: But every other day, it's a decision I make.
47:59
SPEAKER_03: Like there's a place in the mall near us, they opened up this place, they had cinnamon buns, and I'm like, I love cinnamon buns.
48:04
SPEAKER_03: I really, really want to try it.
48:05
SPEAKER_03: So it was a decision that I made to go get that.
48:07
SPEAKER_03: But before it would be like, I have to have dessert every time that I have a meal, I need something sweet.
48:13
SPEAKER_03: I don't have that anymore.
48:15
Kim: Good.
48:15
Kim: Which reset is that?
48:17
Kim: That's so great.
48:18
Kim: You tapped into that.
48:19
Kim: That's so great.
48:20
Kim: They're not causing you that craving, they're not hijacking your thought of.
48:24
Sam: You took your sovereignty back.
48:26
Kim: You took it.
48:26
Kim: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
48:27
Sam: Because they hijacked they so hijack men.
48:30
Sam: They do.
48:30
Sam: They're hardwired to survive.
48:31
Sam: So they are.
48:32
Kim: Yeah, you took your power back.
48:33
Kim: They're gonna be here longer than us, they're smarter than us.
48:36
Kim: We're they are evaders.
48:38
Kim: They're not smarter than we're on to you.
48:40
Kim: We're on to you, we're on to you.
48:41
Kim: We're it's important for us to know what's going on in our bodies.
48:45
Kim: Right.
48:46
Kim: So as you're moving that biofilm out like you are with a biocharger, keep doing it.
48:51
Kim: Because you're moving them out, whether you see them in it or not, they're microscopic, chilling in there, their eggs are small.
48:58
Kim: So you, you know, so you're just moving out generations that could be causing you more problems.
49:04
SPEAKER_03: Right, exactly.
49:05
Sam: Look how much further you already put your daughter ahead of where you were.
49:09
Sam: How cool is that?
49:11
Sam: Yeah, she's a child knowing about these things and already cleansing and aware of them.
49:16
SPEAKER_03: She's really good.
49:17
SPEAKER_03: You know, maybe it's because I can control one child.
49:19
SPEAKER_03: I have one child, so maybe if there was like a sibling, she'd be like, We're not doing this.
49:23
SPEAKER_03: But for her, she's like, okay, this is just what we do.
49:26
SPEAKER_03: Like, she doesn't have a choice.
49:27
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, we do it as a family.
49:29
SPEAKER_03: She sees me doing it, she sees Damon doing it.
49:32
SPEAKER_03: So she's like, okay.
49:33
SPEAKER_03: So I get everything in, you know, suspension form.
49:36
SPEAKER_03: She can't swallow a pill.
49:37
SPEAKER_03: So um, you know, it's and this stuff is nasty.
49:40
SPEAKER_03: We know that the way even the homeopaths, all this it tastes horrible.
49:44
SPEAKER_03: This 10-year-old, she's doing it, and she's really not complaining.
49:48
SPEAKER_03: She just knows she has to do it.
49:50
SPEAKER_03: Um, and she's getting symptoms, and you know, she's getting the herx reactions, and um, she's getting headaches.
49:57
SPEAKER_03: And I'm just like, honey, that's just part of the process.
50:00
SPEAKER_03: It, you know, just go with it.
50:01
SPEAKER_03: And I don't know, I'm proud of her.
50:03
SPEAKER_03: I feel I'm like, she's not crumbling over it or you know, giving me a hard time.
50:08
SPEAKER_03: She's just doing it.
50:09
Sam: She's also not going to be 20-something, 30-something, and f figuring it out after so long of being chronically ill or sick or all these symptoms, and then finally coming into it.
50:17
Sam: Like, you really are putting her so far ahead.
50:19
Sam: So far.
50:20
Sam: Her house.
50:20
Kim: She's setting her mindset, the way she's viewing this.
50:23
Kim: Yeah, that was my goal when I went viral.
50:25
Kim: Yeah.
50:26
Kim: I want children to do this.
50:27
Kim: It should not be scary, it should not be embarrassing.
50:30
Kim: It should be something that's a normal standard protocol in their home, a few times a year.
50:36
SPEAKER_03: And she also meant a little girl at the doctor's office who had uh, she was 11.
50:44
SPEAKER_03: And from her mom was just at the end of the rope with everything, and she started, she took her to go do the surgery, the dental surgery, she took her to do the parasite cleansing.
50:53
SPEAKER_03: And and that child is in remission.
50:55
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
50:56
SPEAKER_03: They have a very interesting story.
50:58
SPEAKER_03: I'll have that's another conversation for you.
51:00
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, yeah, this child is in remission.
51:02
SPEAKER_03: And Minka, our daughter, saw that.
51:04
SPEAKER_03: She met that girl, and I told her about her, and I told her that she did all of this cleansing, and she's much better now.
51:10
SPEAKER_03: I I I believe, I think I know what I would do if I ever got well, I'm not gonna get that.
51:14
SPEAKER_03: Right?
51:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, you're not.
51:15
SPEAKER_01: I bet her not after all years.
51:17
SPEAKER_01: Can you imagine that?
51:17
Kim: Yeah, literally, you're breaking the biofilm.
51:19
Kim: You're literally showing your body not to create the hardened shell around the environmental toxins.
51:24
Kim: It'll immediately pass instead of protect.
51:26
Kim: Right.
51:27
Kim: That's what's happening.
51:28
Kim: It's protecting things that are inside of it.
51:30
Kim: It's not just worms.
51:32
Kim: I mean, there's so many other environmental toxins that live in that biofilm.
51:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, me and Damon always say now we're like, let's really try.
51:38
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you can't prevent getting hit by a bus walking down the street.
51:41
SPEAKER_03: And things are gonna happen, unfortunately, but like, let's just take all of these other things out.
51:46
SPEAKER_03: You know, let's try.
51:47
SPEAKER_03: So that's really our thought process.
51:51
SPEAKER_03: A healthy life.
51:52
SPEAKER_03: A long, healthy life.
51:53
SPEAKER_03: And it's it's not having to be perfect.
51:55
SPEAKER_03: You know, there, I don't know that anything is being in an absolute perfect health.
51:59
SPEAKER_03: I don't know that that exists.
52:00
SPEAKER_03: It doesn't exist, but it's just each day that you live, the quality of that day is better than what you used to feel because we know when you're chronically ill or you have something, you just feel horrible and you can't move.
52:12
SPEAKER_03: You can't, you know.
52:13
SPEAKER_03: I know I I I heard your talk about uh your condition, you were in a chair all the time.
52:17
SPEAKER_03: You can get out of that chair.
52:19
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we want to be able to move and hang out and travel and do things.
52:22
SPEAKER_03: So it's the quality quality of each day.
52:24
Kim: And that's why it's important to do cleansing and to do the modalities because your quality of life is all you got, right?
52:32
Kim: I was watching my dream life being built and I couldn't participate in it.
52:35
Kim: And it was just the hardest on top of already being sick.
52:39
Kim: And you're like, oh my, why, why?
52:41
Kim: Right.
52:42
Kim: You know, at the end of the day, why?
52:43
Kim: Here I am, a very smart and very intelligent person that couldn't figure out an issue, and that wasn't enough for me.
52:50
Kim: I needed to figure out what was going on with me.
52:52
Kim: Yeah, yeah.
52:52
Sam: Five years of being allowed.
52:54
Sam: I know.
52:54
Sam: I love how you worded that.
52:55
Sam: I think that's really beautiful.
52:57
Sam: As long as each day you're feeling better than you were before.
53:01
Sam: Because to me, that's growth mindset.
53:03
Sam: Yeah.
53:03
Sam: And you're focused on getting better, and that's a trajectory of your life.
53:07
Sam: And I think that that's a beautiful compass to live by.
53:10
Sam: So you're doing great.
53:11
Sam: You're doing wonderful.
53:13
SPEAKER_03: Keep going for sure.
53:14
Sam: Thank you.
53:14
SPEAKER_03: And I'm proud of you both of you.
53:15
SPEAKER_03: I know.
53:17
SPEAKER_03: It's not easy to do all of these things.
53:18
SPEAKER_03: It really isn't.
53:19
SPEAKER_03: It's a job, it's a lifestyle.
53:21
SPEAKER_03: It's a decision.
53:21
SPEAKER_03: It's a lifestyle.
53:22
Kim: It was.
53:23
Kim: It's a decision.
53:24
Kim: It is, yeah.
53:24
Kim: A conscious decision.
53:25
Sam: Yes.
53:26
Kim: This has been a pretty wild five years.
53:29
Kim: Oh, yeah.
53:30
Sam: You have to wake up from everything you were told, everything you were talking about.
53:33
Sam: Question at all.
53:35
Sam: Question at all.
53:35
Sam: Right?
53:35
Sam: Yeah.
53:36
Sam: Because how many things like you went to two doctors after you were like, no, I know I have itchy butt.
53:41
Sam: I know there's something going on.
53:42
Sam: And they both were like, nah, you're fine.
53:44
Sam: You're good, girl.
53:45
Sam: And then you saw worms leave your body.
53:47
Sam: So it's like you can't depend on someone else's.
53:50
Sam: Your body, your intuition kept telling you, you know.
53:52
Sam: No, you know.
53:54
Sam: You know that something's up.
53:55
Kim: Listen to that.
53:56
Kim: Listen to that.
53:57
Kim: I have to agree.
53:58
Kim: And fight, fight for what you believe in.
54:00
Kim: Right.
54:00
Kim: I mean, honestly, don't settle because there are people out there that are going to continue to help you and and and walk you through whatever that challenge is.
54:09
Kim: There's doctors that are going to help you.
54:11
Kim: I mean, I've dedicated this will be my life.
54:13
Kim: This is what my life is.
54:14
Kim: I've dedicated my life to this, helping others find their right person to help them move through this crazy weird journey.
54:23
Kim: Right.
54:24
SPEAKER_03: And paying it forward.
54:25
SPEAKER_03: You're a great person for that.
54:26
Kim: Oh, thanks.
54:27
Kim: Yeah.
54:27
Sam: So are you.
54:28
Sam: You're making noise.
54:29
Sam: You're making noise.
54:30
Sam: And that is so important.
54:31
Sam: And we love that.
54:32
Sam: So thank you for advocating for all the things we talked about.
54:34
Sam: I know it's been a long journey.
54:37
Sam: What is one thing?
54:38
Sam: It doesn't have to just be one, but if there's one thing that comes to mind that you've learned on this journey, this long journey of yours that you could leave with our audience, maybe it's something that like surprised you or something, like something that was so impactful.
54:50
Sam: It stood out to you that you learned along the way that you're like, oh, that like everyone needs to know that.
54:55
Sam: What's something you'd like to leave with our audience?
54:58
SPEAKER_03: Well, out of all the things that I've done, and I it's parasite.
55:04
SPEAKER_03: It comes back to the parasite.
55:06
SPEAKER_03: It's in all the roads right now that it all leads back to parasites.
55:09
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I really, this is what I'm passionate about now.
55:12
SPEAKER_03: I mean, consider cleansing.
55:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
55:16
SPEAKER_03: Like that's what I'm gonna say.
55:17
SPEAKER_03: And also never take no for an answer.
55:20
SPEAKER_03: Or if they say you're fine, you're not fine.
55:22
SPEAKER_03: You know you're not fine.
55:23
SPEAKER_03: Keep digging because you know your body.
55:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, everyone will just make you think, uh, it's just uh, you know, you're having a couple bad weeks, or it's hormones, or it's no, there's something wrong.
55:35
SPEAKER_03: You know when something's on your mind.
55:38
Sam: Yeah, it's just your lime, girl.
55:40
Sam: It's just the lupus.
55:41
Sam: There could be anything else with it.
55:43
Sam: What's the root of that though?
55:45
Sam: Exactly.
55:45
Sam: You know?
55:46
Kim: There's layers of the root.
55:48
Kim: I have three major layers in my health journey.
55:52
Kim: Three major parasites was just one of them.
55:54
Kim: And like yours is layering with some heavy metals, and you know, moving those out because they weight down the parasites.
56:01
Kim: So when you move those heavy metals out, yeah, your parasites will lift, and then you have to conquer the parasites in conjunction with the metals being moved out.
56:09
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
56:10
Kim: It's just the process of the way the environmental toxins have stacked in your body.
56:14
SPEAKER_03: No, absolutely.
56:15
SPEAKER_03: And I mean, and when I leave the audience with the parasites and saying that, I say that to say that it's it's it's the it's parasite cleansing.
56:24
SPEAKER_03: It's it's doing these liver gallbladder cleanses, it's fasting, all of those things you have to do to clean yourself.
56:32
SPEAKER_03: The way you take a shower, you got to take a shower on the inside of your body too.
56:35
SPEAKER_03: If that if I can say it that way.
56:36
SPEAKER_03: I love that.
56:37
SPEAKER_03: And I'm not a big faster.
56:39
SPEAKER_03: My husband is great with fasting.
56:41
SPEAKER_03: I really try my best.
56:42
SPEAKER_03: Sometimes I don't do well at it, but I I really believe that's so important too.
56:47
SPEAKER_03: So we really have to cleanse.
56:48
SPEAKER_03: And this is something years ago I just couldn't foresee, or I didn't, I just wasn't strong enough to say I'm gonna do any of it.
56:54
SPEAKER_03: But it's just fact.
56:56
SPEAKER_03: You have to do it.
56:58
SPEAKER_03: Love it.
56:58
SPEAKER_03: That's that's the key to longevity.
57:00
SPEAKER_03: Thank you, girl.
57:01
Sam: We couldn't agree more.
57:02
Sam: Truly, this has been such a pleasure.
57:05
Sam: Thank you.
57:05
Sam: Honestly, hearing the way your entire journey has unfolded, it's so empowering.
57:09
Sam: I think so many people are gonna be able to relate to your story and relate to this and be so inspired by what you do and how proactive you really are.
57:17
Sam: Y'all heard it from Heather first, okay?
57:19
Sam: You heard it right here.
57:20
Sam: Cleanse.
57:21
Sam: Be aware that parasites and environmental toxins are real.
57:24
Sam: Heather, thank you for coming on What's Eating You Today.
57:27
Sam: Thank you so much.
57:28
Sam: This has been amazing.
57:29
Sam: It's been amazing.
57:30
Sam: Thank you so much for being here.
57:31
Sam: Everyone, thank you so much for tuning in.
57:33
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57:35
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57:36
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57:38
Sam: Definitely connect with her as well.
57:40
Sam: And until next time, be well.
57:42
Sam: Bye.