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INTERVIEW: Dr. Cheyenne Bryant Talks New Book ‘Live Your Promise’, Healed Bonds & Marriages, Her Doctorate Degree, Ignoring Negativity + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day.
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  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club finish for y'all done.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody is ej en Vy, Jesse, Hilarrys, Charlamagne the guy.
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  Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club Law on the roasteres here
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  Speaker 3: as well. We got a special guests in the building.
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  Speaker 3: Her new book is out right now live your promise.
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  Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, Doctor Cheyenne Briant, welcome back.
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  Speaker 4: Listen Breakfast Club, fam I love I love being here.
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  Speaker 4: I'd be seeing seeing you out at the Diddy Trial,
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  Speaker 4: seeing you out at the boosy gz up. Let me
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  Speaker 4: tell you there was music playing and then there was
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  Speaker 4: music playing.
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  Speaker 2: Can you tell the people he really be DJing?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 1: No, I go out when he go, chloices. I go
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  Speaker 1: because I always have a good time. But they be
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  Speaker 1: trying to play with him up here, like he don't
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  Speaker 1: be doing what he's doing.
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  Speaker 4: Ivy, did I not come behind that stage you to
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  Speaker 4: say listen, the entire party concert was jumping because he
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  Speaker 4: was on fire. At the DJ boo, I looked like
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  Speaker 4: who is that? And I was like, ah, DJ, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you killed that.
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  Speaker 3: I think you need a new name, right you Doctor
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  Speaker 3: Shy and Brian here, but you need like a shy
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  Speaker 3: shy because she was shy shy that weekend. No, no,
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  Speaker 3: you don't understand every boosy verse and record she knew
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  Speaker 3: from head to.
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  Speaker 4: You talking too much.
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  Speaker 3: Every Jesus, every yo, you have to stay just start
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  Speaker 3: off there right, So you know, Jez, I'm the realist, nigga.
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  Speaker 3: She's like, I'm the real doctor in here.
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  Speaker 2: You're already see.
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  Speaker 4: That's why you got to have everybody sign of NDA.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I love that kind of hybrid.
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  Speaker 4: I gotta be able to have a good time. I
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  Speaker 4: gotta be able to be relatable to people.
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  Speaker 2: Why do the.
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  Speaker 1: People be mad when you are out having a good time?
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  Speaker 1: Because that made me think of when you went to
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  Speaker 1: Jez's concert and it was a whole discourse about your
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  Speaker 1: outfit at the concert.
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  Speaker 4: So, Jez, they weren't mad because the doc was having
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  Speaker 4: a good time. They were mad because of what I wore.
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  Speaker 4: It was black tied to me, it wasn't black tied
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  Speaker 4: to some other people. And you know, this is the thing.
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  Speaker 4: I have agents over a couple things. One of those
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  Speaker 4: happened to be me and what I wear, And so
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna always wear what I want to wear. And again,
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  Speaker 4: you know, my client, my dog squad, my fan base,
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  Speaker 4: those are my people, those are my village. My goal
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  Speaker 4: is not to sit up here and try to convince
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  Speaker 4: folks who have already made up their mind to either
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  Speaker 4: misunderstand me or dislike me, to like me. I will
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  Speaker 4: spend my entire life having to continuously convince them to
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  Speaker 4: like understand. And that's just a responsibility that I'm not
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  Speaker 4: going to take on. I don't think anybody should do that.
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  Speaker 4: We all have our village, and our job is to cater, to,
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  Speaker 4: love and nurture our village. Once you start going outside
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  Speaker 4: of that, then you have to spend your whole life
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  Speaker 4: trying to make sure these people continuously like you, and
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  Speaker 4: then you live in dogma, and dogma will eat your
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  Speaker 4: ass up alive. And it's just not worth it. It's
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  Speaker 4: just it's a bill that you don't want to ever
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  Speaker 4: have to pay.
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  Speaker 3: Does it bother you at all?
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  Speaker 2: Which part the way?
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  Speaker 3: Do people attack you? Because you get attacked a lot,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and you know you know it's crazy, you don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't realize the amount that you get attacked. And
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna dive all into it until you come up
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  Speaker 3: here about your book. And I'm started just doing research
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  Speaker 3: in your book, and I'm like, God, damn, did they
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  Speaker 3: not like doctor Cheyenne Bryant.
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  Speaker 2: I'd be seeing it in real time, So.
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  Speaker 4: Does it doesn't bother me. It comes with the territory.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that any of us who are either
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  Speaker 4: in the industry and media, a celebrity who has a
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  Speaker 4: certain level of fame, or even just came from the
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  Speaker 4: inner city right and knows what it is to be
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  Speaker 4: an attractive woman in the hood. In the inner city,
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  Speaker 4: you get a lot of rhetoric, and you understand that
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  Speaker 4: the outside chatter is a part of being successful. And
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  Speaker 4: then I said this with humility, but to truth. And
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  Speaker 4: you add on beauty, you add on being articulated or educated,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, beating a lot of the statistics and
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  Speaker 4: the odds that come from being an inner city. You know,
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  Speaker 4: little girl boy, it comes with the territory. So I
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  Speaker 4: always say that, you know, Jesus served the church, died
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  Speaker 4: for the church, and the church Judas his disciple, set
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  Speaker 4: him up, the people he loved and he serves set
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  Speaker 4: him up to be crucified. So why do we personalize
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  Speaker 4: when people I eat our disciples are folks who are
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  Speaker 4: never our disciples. And our people have an issue with us,
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  Speaker 4: try to take us down or set us up for failure.
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  Speaker 4: That is a part of being great. That is a
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  Speaker 4: part of people witnessing you be in your lane and
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  Speaker 4: do what you do and them saying I either don't
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  Speaker 4: have the capacity to do so I would love to
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  Speaker 4: do it. And what I've learned, y'all is that people
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  Speaker 4: don't always want to occupy your space. They want your territory.
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  Speaker 4: And if you understand that, then you occupy the territory
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  Speaker 4: that God has given you because no one can take
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  Speaker 4: what God has given. You can't miss what's yours. And
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  Speaker 4: if your faith, which is an action word, stands on that,
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  Speaker 4: then what are you personalizing when people have an issue
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  Speaker 4: with you? One Number two literally pay for the kind
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  Speaker 4: of Internet attention that I get. They create storylines for
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  Speaker 4: the headlines and the blog attention and the virility that
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  Speaker 4: I get. I don't pay for any of it. I
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  Speaker 4: just show up and be me, and so no, it
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  Speaker 4: doesn't bother me. What I will say is there's times
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  Speaker 4: where doctor Brian has to check Cheyenne on some of
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  Speaker 4: my clapbacks because some of my clapbacks be like, you know, well,
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  Speaker 4: your mama and I said, you can't say that. But
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  Speaker 4: then I'm like, you can't, but I'm like, don't. So
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  Speaker 4: it has stretched my bandwidth. It has really shown me
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  Speaker 4: how emotionally intelligent I am. And it also has shown
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  Speaker 4: me where I have some growth in the emotional maturity space.
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  Speaker 4: When I'm thinking of clapping back or or saying something
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  Speaker 4: that could really gut people.
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  Speaker 3: Well, how does it feel? You know, because a lot
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  Speaker 3: of the backlash come from people in your field, right
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  Speaker 3: the doctor's therapist, life coaches, And what I say is
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  Speaker 3: they say, the reason that you don't get questioned or
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  Speaker 3: tested as much is because of your quote unquote looks.
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  Speaker 4: You know what ivy. I said this last time I
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  Speaker 4: was on You might be my alter ego brother, because
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  Speaker 4: some of the stuff you say is just right up
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  Speaker 4: the alley of what needs to be addressed. So there's
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  Speaker 4: pretty privilege, and I've learned that there's pretty punishment. And
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  Speaker 4: I didn't really understand that term until I got into
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  Speaker 4: my field. And I want to say this, I didn't
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  Speaker 4: get it. I've been in my field for eighteen years.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't get into this field to become famous, to
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  Speaker 4: become a celebrity. I got in this field because I
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  Speaker 4: was a little girl from the inner city who was
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  Speaker 4: tenations determined to make it out, and I had a
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  Speaker 4: lot of broken pieces in abandonment. And when God provided
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  Speaker 4: me tools that helped me take my broken pieces and
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  Speaker 4: make peace from it, go from my wilderness into my
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  Speaker 4: promised land, which I talk about in my book, Live
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  Speaker 4: Your Promise, I thought, wait a minute, I got to
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  Speaker 4: make sure I give everybody to come in contact with
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  Speaker 4: these principles because everyone deserves that freedom and that healing
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  Speaker 4: that I'm experiencing what I call God's peace, all right,
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  Speaker 4: And so with that, people got a whiff of it,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, the fam base, the folks made me famous,
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  Speaker 4: made me a celebrity. I did not grow up and say, hey,
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  Speaker 4: I want to just listen. I'm a good looking woman.
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  Speaker 4: I've had access to the industry for my entire life.
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  Speaker 4: If I wanted to be famous, I would have went
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  Speaker 4: maybe the actress route or the modeling route. Easy, easy
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  Speaker 4: call for me. It would have been so easy. I've
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  Speaker 4: never had an agent, I've never had a manager. So
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying is this came to me and I
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  Speaker 4: had to continuously remind people I'm in a field where
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  Speaker 4: I am taking on people's luggage. I am unpacking it,
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  Speaker 4: and I am helping them process through their stuff so
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  Speaker 4: they can have a better quality of life, they can
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  Speaker 4: have mental health, and they can actually have tools to
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  Speaker 4: sustain their well being. So none of that. No one
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  Speaker 4: goes to college and gets multiple degrees to say I
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  Speaker 4: want to be famous. Now do I love it here? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I love it. I'm grateful for it. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: So another thing is, you know, I created my own
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  Speaker 4: lane as a psychology xper life coach. So when people
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  Speaker 4: see that, they went into a group that wasn't a lane.
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  Speaker 4: They just fell into being a part of a group.
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  Speaker 4: And they're looking at this other woman who they're like,
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  Speaker 4: wait a minute. You know she created her own lane
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  Speaker 4: and she's totally killing it. It's like, Yo, there's only
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  Speaker 4: room for me in the lane that I created. And
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  Speaker 4: I would like if y'all put your blinker on when
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  Speaker 4: you're trying to get over, because a lot of times
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  Speaker 4: they're trying to just get over my lane. It's like,
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  Speaker 4: but doesn't work like that. If folks would concentrate on
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  Speaker 4: either asking, buying books, looking at my videos, booking a
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  Speaker 4: session to say, doc, how did you do it. I'm
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  Speaker 4: not a gatekeeper. I love putting people on the quickest
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  Speaker 4: way to walk this through serving people. I'm in a
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  Speaker 4: service position as a psychologexter life coach. I am serving
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  Speaker 4: people all day long. As president of NAACP, the biggest
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  Speaker 4: civil rights organization in Los Angeles for fourteen years. That
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  Speaker 4: is a service position. We don't get paid to run
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  Speaker 4: a civil rights organization. That is volunteer work I've done
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  Speaker 4: for fourteen years. I am in a service position. I'm
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  Speaker 4: a commissioner at home for assemblyman. I have been a
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  Speaker 4: Democratic California state delegate. Those are all elected official servant positions.
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  Speaker 4: And so if folks would focus on doc how did
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  Speaker 4: you create your own lane? I don't want to be you,
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  Speaker 4: but dam but I want my own lane to occupy.
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  Speaker 4: I would give them the tools like I'm doing in
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  Speaker 4: my book, Live your promise about how I did it,
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  Speaker 4: how I went from the hood to the hills. Was
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  Speaker 4: it hard? Yeah? Is it possible? Absolutely? Am I the
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  Speaker 4: only one that can do it? Hell? No? The tools
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  Speaker 4: I use, if you apply it, you would get this
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  Speaker 4: same result, just like baking a cake.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you don't I want to start off with because
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  Speaker 3: doing research, I mean when I say the amount of
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  Speaker 3: people attacking you, it just opened up a Pandora's box.
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  Speaker 3: I like Jesus. Though people didn't like me, they don't
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  Speaker 3: like you.
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  Speaker 4: Even they don't like you either sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I wanted to start with what you do.
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  Speaker 3: The thing I see online is she doesn't she doesn't
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  Speaker 3: do this under her license. She's not a quote unquote
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  Speaker 3: real doctor. She has an honorary degree. She didn't earn it.
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  Speaker 3: So let's talk about what you do as far as
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  Speaker 3: being a life coach and a doctor. Do you have
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  Speaker 3: a license for a for what you do?
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 3: What is a license needed?
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  Speaker 4: I love that what I do a license is not required.
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  Speaker 4: One number two one, I was in my undergrad which
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  Speaker 4: is a degree in psychology. My master's is a degree
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  Speaker 4: in marriage, Family and Child therapy. My doctorate is in
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  Speaker 4: counseling psychology. Those are all academic. I have four academic degrees.
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  Speaker 4: The other one is in Pan African studies. There's two
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  Speaker 4: honorary doctorates. One is in behavioral science.
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  Speaker 3: So you have an earned doctor, yes, and.
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  Speaker 4: The other ones is in humanitaris. Honorary doctorates are to
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  Speaker 4: praise you and give you your flowers for your body
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  Speaker 4: of work. Okay, they're not academic, but it shows your
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  Speaker 4: body of work is effective enough for them to honor
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  Speaker 4: you with an honorary doctorate. Now, going back when I
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  Speaker 4: said I worked under a license, see all of this
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  Speaker 4: is terminology. People would open up their ears and do
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  Speaker 4: what school teaches therapists to do. I'm not a therapist,
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  Speaker 4: but the group of licensed professionals who have an issue
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  Speaker 4: with this, they teach you all something called active listening.
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  Speaker 4: None of y'all seem to be actively listening. Working under
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  Speaker 4: a license means I'm working under a supervisor's license. If
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  Speaker 4: anyone went to school for therapy, psychiatrists, psychologists, you have
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  Speaker 4: to accumulate practicum. You have to accumulate hours before you
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  Speaker 4: can graduate. It's not an option. So I accumulated thousands
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  Speaker 4: of hours underneath the supervisor's license working as a marriage,
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  Speaker 4: Family and Child therapists. So an MFT is what I
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  Speaker 4: was not an l MFT. LMFT is licensed Marriage and
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  Speaker 4: Family Therapists. MFT is marriage and family therapists. As I
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  Speaker 4: worked under that license, I did diagnose, I did treatment plans,
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  Speaker 4: and I see clients regularly. My goal was never ever
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  Speaker 4: to obtain licensing ever, I did not go to college
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  Speaker 4: and say I want to become a licensed therapist. Let
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  Speaker 4: me put a disclaimer out there. A licensed therapist, there's
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  Speaker 4: nothing wrong with that. There are absolutely effective, amazing therapists, counselors, psychiatrists, psychologists,
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  Speaker 4: and life coaches absolutely amazing. It's all subjective. What works
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  Speaker 4: for where you are in your life, what works best
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  Speaker 4: for the season you're in, What is it that you need,
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  Speaker 4: and what clinician or coach is best fit for what
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  Speaker 4: you have going on the season you're in, and whose
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  Speaker 4: tools and principles will most be effective for where you're
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  Speaker 4: trying to be and for your healing. That's what it
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  Speaker 4: boils down to. Neither is better. One's license and one's not.
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  Speaker 4: For me, I have all of the training, and I
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  Speaker 4: have the academia, and I have the education. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: say it one last time, I had zero desire to
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  Speaker 4: ever become licensed. As a young girl. I've always created
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  Speaker 4: my own lanes. I'm a disruptor. Y'all can't see that
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  Speaker 4: by now. I've always been the woman that said, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: if everyone's doing left, then I want to go create right.
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  Speaker 4: If everyone's doing black, I want to go create white.
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing it now. It worked for me. So my
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  Speaker 4: goal was to be able to create a huge platform
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  Speaker 4: and be able to heal people, bless people at a
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  Speaker 4: large level, not to be licensed or bill insurance, diagnosed,
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  Speaker 4: or tree or have patience. I don't do or have
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  Speaker 4: any of those. I provide effective tools, principles, and I
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  Speaker 4: have clients and I have sessions, and that is exactly
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  Speaker 4: what I do.
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  Speaker 1: Why did you start off not wanting to be licensed
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  Speaker 1: where most people would be licensed in it. I have
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  Speaker 1: friends who've gotten license, have experienced some things with what
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  Speaker 1: you have to do want your license, and have said
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  Speaker 1: I'm okay with not renew when you're not going forward
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  Speaker 1: or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Right, but wait, say that again, I'll run that back.
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  Speaker 1: So I have friends who've been licensed that have said,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I'd rather do it the other way
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  Speaker 1: because their battle with insurances and how they're paid is
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  Speaker 1: a conversation. But most people start off wanting to be licensed.
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  Speaker 1: Why did you start off not wanting to be licensed?
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  Speaker 4: Because I knew that it would create barriers for me
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  Speaker 4: in the way that I want to be able to
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  Speaker 4: approach my clients. I knew that, for example, when I
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  Speaker 4: was working under a license, a supervision license as an MFT,
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  Speaker 4: not an LMFT. I had a client. They came in,
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  Speaker 4: a young woman who experienced sexual abuse, and because I'm
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  Speaker 4: working under a license, I had to make sure that
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  Speaker 4: I followed those licenser ethics and laws in the sense
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  Speaker 4: of not confidentiality. I do that now as a as
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  Speaker 4: a life coach and not as boundaries. But there were
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  Speaker 4: moments where she needed a hug because she was having
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  Speaker 4: a lot of triggers and she was experiencing a lot
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  Speaker 4: of her sexual abuse in a way that she needed
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  Speaker 4: to be supported. And of course I asked, you know,
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  Speaker 4: is it okay if I hug you in this moment?
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  Speaker 4: Is that okay? I would ask my clients now, And
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  Speaker 4: she said, I'm not ready for that hug. No problem.
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  Speaker 4: A few months went on and I asked her again, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: you know it's Is it okay if I hug you?
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  Speaker 4: Was our last session we were actually ending our term together,
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  Speaker 4: and she was like, yeah, like I'm actually ready for
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  Speaker 4: that hug. Now, as a licensed clinician, you are taught
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  Speaker 4: in school ethically that you do not hug embrace your
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  Speaker 4: clients at all. If y'all have ever experienced therapy, I have.
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  Speaker 4: That's something that's a no no. It's just something you
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  Speaker 4: don't do unless you, of course acts. But it's a
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  Speaker 4: very very thin line. My approach as a life coach.
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  Speaker 4: I'm very loving, I'm very nurturing. I hug, I say
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  Speaker 4: I love you, have a good day at the end
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  Speaker 4: of our sessions. And those small things that I'm able
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  Speaker 4: to do as a life coach have been life changing
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  Speaker 4: for my clients. I've had clients, after giving them a hug,
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  Speaker 4: stay in my office for twenty more minutes just crying
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  Speaker 4: and bond their eyes out, saying, you have no idea
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  Speaker 4: how much I needed that hug. Doc. I've had clients
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  Speaker 4: that I've said I love you, I'm proud of you.
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  Speaker 4: Well have said my mother my father has never said
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  Speaker 4: those words to me, and that has been the catalyst
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  Speaker 4: to their healing. Some folks don't need to just come
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  Speaker 4: and just talk. Some people do. Some people that talk
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  Speaker 4: therapy is their breakthrough, and I completely advocate for that
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  Speaker 4: if that's what you need for some people, they do
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  Speaker 4: just need to be nurtured and love through their pain.
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  Speaker 4: Some folks trauma has completely broken them and has callous
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: them to where only love is what can break down
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: those barriers of callous of their heart being hardened because
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: they've never experienced that type of nurturing and love. And
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: so again, everybody has different things that they need. It's
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: about us not focusing on who is better or worse,
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: or titled or not titled. It's how can we serve
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: the people that we all are collectively trying to make
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: sure it gets tools, gets healing, gets therapy. If you're
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: a therapist, gets coaching, if you're a coach. How can
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: we make sure those people get what they need? And
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: let's take the focus away from the practitioners or the coaches.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Are you effective? Are you changing and healing lives? If so,
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: run those plays. If not, get more training, get more practice,
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: or get up under somebody who can teach you how
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: to do it effectively. Because really, at the end of
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: the day, that's all that we all are trying to do.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: And I want people to know. I want them to
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: choose what works best for you, not just only as
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: the patient or the client, but as the clinician or
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: the coach, which lane works best for you. I don't
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: want my hands tied behind my back. I'll land on
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: this as a little girl. I didn't need to just talk, y'all.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: I needed love. I needed someone to see me. I
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: needed someone to hold my hand. I needed someone to
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: pat me on the back. I wanted someone to sit
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: with me, grab my little cheeks and say, listen, I
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: love you, with your hurt self, with your pain self,
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: which your trauma self, with your abandoned self. I got you.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: So I can provide those same principles that work for me.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: I'm able to do in my lane that I've created
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: and in my capacity, and I've been doing it eighteen
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: years and I'm effective and it has made me the
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: most sout out psychology expert life coach in the world today.
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  Speaker 3: You say to those people one thing, What do you
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: say to those people like you told us what you
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: studied and what you did in the schooling that you
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: got and the classes that you take. But you know,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: when I said I did a deep dive, some people
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: were like, well, how can she tell me about my
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: marriage when she hasn't been married, or how can she
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: tell me about my family or my kids when she
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: hasn't been through that, even though you studied it and
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: you got your degree in it. So what do you
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: say to those people?
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: So you's gonna cook the whole the whole interview, just
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: gonna cook all your questions because you know what, because
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: tell them that we talked about this pre.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: But when I say with like you know, and I
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: looked at it wasn't like you know, two years ago.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: This is like a week ago to like Jesus Christ,
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: y'all trying to stomp out the shin shine Bryan, like
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: my next did the Philly Sixers.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: But God, yeah, and we know shout out the Philadelphia
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: and we know that's not gonna happen. You know, that's
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: just not gonna You can't have what God has given me.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: It don't work like that. And you can't be in
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: my lane. You couldn't ride in this lane if I
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: gave it the opportunity to. So whatever star you wishing on, baby,
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: wish a little bigger, because that's not going to happen.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: But your question was, what what do I think about
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: people who say I'm not married? So how can I
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: teach folks? So this is the thing I do not
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: teach people how to be married. Marriage is between you
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: and your partner. That's your agreement, that's your covenant, and
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: however you to decide to create and curate your marriage.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: I can't teach you that. What I teach people is
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: how to get out of their own way. Because happy,
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: healed people make happy healed marriages. Miserable unhappy people create
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: miserable marriages. Trauma out folks create trauma bonds. Healed people
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: create healed bonds. I teach you, Envy, how do you
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: process through your trauma so you don't bleed on your wife?
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: I teach you, Lauren, how do you get out of
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: your daddy issues? Not saying you have them, your daddy issues,
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: cruential issues. Okay, well your dob I'm on point today,
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: out of your daddy issues, right, so that you don't
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: point and project your pain onto this man who is
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: loving the hell out of you and doesn't deserve that.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: If I could teach you how to heal those and
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: how to get out of your way with that, then
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: I have helped you become a better woman for yourself,
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: which in return, it's going to do what benefit the
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: collective of that marriage. No one can teach people how
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: to be married. We teach you how to get out
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: of your own way so you and your partner can
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: be healthy. That's it, Because no matter how much we
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: teach you. The proper too is a marriage. If you
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: are traumaed out and your abandoned and a sabotage in
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: this thing, those tools will not be effective until I
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: help you get out of your way.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: So I want to ask this question, and I want
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: to go back to the degree thing because I have
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: something to ask before we move from that. So on
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: that right, on that self sabotage. There. Another conversation in
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: your community of work is with people from like you
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: don't have the educational background that they're like out here
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: searching for or whatever.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Right, wait, say that again.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: So with people debating whether you have your degrees and
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: all this stuff, right, the biggest thing is is like,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: in a normal situation, if because I've heard you say
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: that you're dealing with your own like wounds of like
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: being abandoned, and like, how you will self sabotage in
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: certain situations?
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: How I have I used to?
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So a lot of people who in
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: your lane, they're like, okay, if I know that personally
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: about myself, I depend on my education to be able
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: to put that to the side and give you the tools.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: And I know some people are upset because They're like, well,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: they're trying to say you don't have the education, but
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: then you also have your own issues in your real life.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: So how are you separating the two of one thing?
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Is their legend is not there?
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got you. I hear the question. So the
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: work that I've done on my abandonment that has created
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: a healing in me and really allowed me to identify
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: my pain pockets right so to where I don't sabotage anymore.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: I'm able to have emotional intelligence, high functionality and communicate
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: with you even as a friend, to say, look, you
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: know how you show up in this relationship, Lauren. It's
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: triggering me. And in the past I would have sabotage,
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: are just left or not even had a conversation. But
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: I want to talk about this because I honor and
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: I love our friendship. And so when you do X,
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: Y and Z, this is how it makes me feel
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: identifying my emotion and these are the things that I
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: need from you as my best friend. Can you commit
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: to those things? That's a healing person who's talking. That
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: is where I am now. Okay. Sabotaging was something I
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: did as a young girl because I didn't even understand
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: that I was sabotaging because I was still trying to
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: get in contact with my pain. I was still trying
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: to figure out how abandon it was impacting me. So
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: the tools that I used to be able to get
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: myself from self sabotaging to communicating and being high functioning
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: and having emotional intelligence and mending this relationship and letting
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: you know what I need because now I have awareness
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: of who I am as a woman. I'm aware of
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: my pain pockets, I'm aware of my triggers. Those are
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: all the tools that I teach. Those are all the
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: tools that are in my book, Live Your Promise. And
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: so I'm teaching folks how to get out of their
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: own way because there was a time where I was
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: in my way. And what made it challenging for me
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: to heal, y'all, was I was in relationships with people
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: who enabled it because they weren't leaving me. It didn't
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: matter what I did. They weren't going nowhere. They were
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: still putting rings on my finger, they were still wanting
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: to marry me, they were still loving the hell out
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: of me. And that enabling mechanism doesn't give folks an
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: excuse to show up trauma out to still show up
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: in your dysfunction. You still have a responsibility to love
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: yourself enough, respect yourself enough to say, let me identify
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: what is going on in me, even though this person's
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: allowing it that I know is not effective for the
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: collective of the relationship or myself.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: You think that that was like them still coming back.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Was that their ego of like, you know, men want
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: to be able to conquer, to be able to change
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: and sit you down and you know all those things
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: that come with like when you're strong.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Or could it be because he was just trying to
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: love you through your problems.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: I mean I was gonna say, or was it the opposite?
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Like what did you discover?
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: More? You know what? I think that God just really
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: blessed me with amazing people in my life. Like I've
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: had some amazing parents, I've had amazing partners who I've
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: been in relationship with. I've had friends that just love
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: me down. And I'd like to say that that's the
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: reflection of who I am and how I love. I
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: love deep, I love hard. I will love you out
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: of your shit. I will love you out of your shit.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: I'm like that with my clients. And so I just
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: had men who they just had the bandwidth to love
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: me through my shit. And that taught me that you
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: can have all the tools, you can have the best therapist,
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: the best coach, but if you don't have love, healing
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: is nearly impossible. I don't care what anyone says. You
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: would be a highly functioning transactional person with like an encyclopedia,
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: with all the tools and the effectiveness and this is
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: how it works and the principles, but internally homeless as
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: hell because you won't have the ability to attach to
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: love to securely attached, not anxiously attached or avoidantly attached.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: You would be a manchin as homeless. And so you know,
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: people just really loved me through my trauma and that
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: was amazing.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: I was enabling you, Like, what were you doing because
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: the first.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: Time they weren't setting boundaries, They weren't saying bound they
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: weren't saying.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: But at what point, Because you know when people think
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: of enabling, you think of drugs, right, you thinking enable
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: them to use drugs and enabling them to gamble, enabling
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: them to do something that you feel like will be
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: hurtful to their life. So what was your.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Enabling them, not setting boundaries with me. You know, folks,
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: some people bless you. Some people fall so deep and
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: love envy that they start loving the person more than themselves,
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: which Puzzny clips up from them realizing that there needs
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: to be a boundary set right now.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Most women want that, don't. Most women want somebody that's
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: going to love them, damn there, more than themselves.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Absolutely I do. I do, so let me speak for myself.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: I do. But I want, let me say this, as
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: that man is loving me more than he loves himself,
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: I want there to be a healthy balance of him
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: loving himself enough to say, baby, I'm not going to
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: leave you, but this shit right here, there's gonna be
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: a boundary put up here, because see, I do respect myself.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: Even though I love you, I love myself too as
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: a man, and you just can't talk to me like
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: that because that emasculates me. And I'm vertical and who
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: I am, And the reason why you love me so
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: much and the reason why I can carry you is
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: because of the fact that I respect myself and that
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: I'm vertical, and so you cannot emasculate me, meaning shrink
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: me and expect me to be big enough to carry you.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: That is a man who has boundaries. He's not sabotage
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: and he's not abandoning you. But it takes a heel
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: to woman to say, you know what, you're right, let
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: me work on this. Show me how to work on this,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Teach me what that looks like, because maybe I've never
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: done that, maybe I've never had a father. It takes
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: a certain woman, women who don't have the bandwidth, the
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: awareness to healing, to respect that kind of man should
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: have enough respect for themself to leave, not sabotage, but
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: leave that relationship because she will emasculate him. But a
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: man who was functioning at that high level won't tolerate that,
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: at least for not long. And you shouldn't want to
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: a man who's loving the hell out of you. I mean,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: you've got to learn that. That is what made me
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: want to be better. I wonder what made me want
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: to be better.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: It'd be that right there, Because a lot of people
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: will not do like the therapy stuff and all of that.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: But like, if you get with the right person where
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: you're like, it makes you really face your own stuff,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: you're like hold on, Like then you start kind of
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: working backwards off of lif Yes, Oh so wait, and
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: you talked about mother wounds too, because a lot of
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: people talk about daddy issues, and I think that definitely
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: is a thing. But I don't think people talk enough,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: especially with black girls, about mother wombs and how that
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: transit and sense of how you deal with your relationships
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: friends and you like your marital relationships too.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, we talk about men with mommy issues and women
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: with daddy issues, right, we always cross section and we
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: don't talk about women who have mommy issues and how
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: that shows up and impacts friendships, how it also shows
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: up and plays a role in how you know. Some
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: women are okay with dealing with merry men. Some women
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: are okay with being the side chick. Sometimes it's not
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: because daddy went there. Sometimes it's because mommy was competing
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: with you at a young age. Sometimes because mom abandoned
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: you and you have an internal dislike or hatred towards
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: women because of the wounds that your mother created. So
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: sometimes women are saying, if I could be with this
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: married man and hurt his wife, then it's my way
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: of saying f all women, because my mother is a
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: woman who I despise. We have to look at all
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: moving parts when we are helping our when people unpack
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: their stuff. We can't just say, because you know you're
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: a womanizer, automatically mommy issues, because you process your emotions
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: in a certain way, Automatically, daddy issues, Daddy wasn't there.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: I have to be able to say, all right, Envy,
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: who was in the house. And I always say this,
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: just because a parent is present doesn't mean they don't
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: present more. Trauma sometimes learn behavior of learning how to
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: become a womanizer is what creates a womanizer and a man.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: Seeing your father womanize your mother teaches you that that
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: is a normalcy of being a man. It glamorizes it
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: for a lot of little boys, and they grow up
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: loving and admiring their father, showing up in the admiration
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: of what they see, never being told, nah son, this
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: is what I'm doing, but this is not the right
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: way to do it.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you. So you know, we were
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: talking about it earlier. We were talking about Neo and
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: his relationships. Right, what is three or four women? How
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: do you look at that relationship for those individual women?
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: So polyamorous to me is a lifestyle. So it's a
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: choice right, it's nothing in secrecy. It's not woman saying hey,
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: I'm dating a man who has a woman or a wife,
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: and I'm doing it in secrecy. And so this is feeding,
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: you know, my trauma of being able to be hidden
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: because I've always been hidden as a little girl, nobody
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: ever seen me. So this allows me to be in
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: my norm of never being seen. Right, that's one reason
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: why women will become the side check. Polyamorous is a lifestyle,
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: So it's not for me, but I don't see anything
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: wrong with it for the folks who are choosing it
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: at all, if that makes sense. I don't think polyamorous
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: is a lifestyle that is deemed bad. I think it
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: is only bad when things are deceptive. When there's lies
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: and there's deception, then it's totally totally out of pocket.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: It's completely unhealthy. But if this is an open relationship
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: and we are all happy, here, are y'all happy? Are
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: you healthy? Day? My thing? I'm territorial. I want all
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: minds to myself, and I want you territory over me.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: You would be unhappy with me in a house full
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: of anybody outside of me, everybody being happy.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: And by the way, all this stuff that we're talking about,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: even though it's not like directly mentioned in your book,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: your book Live Your Purpose, the way that you set
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: up part promise, I'm sorry, part one, two and three
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: with like the building of your house. Yes, all of
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: this kind of goes into it because you spend a
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: lot of time on like accountability, understanding what's actually happened
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: versus it's just not so like I don't want people
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: to be like, oh she there for the book, then
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: they going into all the stuff. No, the book gives
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: you like a very good foundation of when the stuff
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: is happening.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: To break down parts of the book, thinking, feeling, and behavior.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Right now, how does this make up someone's personality?
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so your three part house is exactly you know
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: who you are, how you think, how you feel, how
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: you behave. When it's in alignment, you are healthy, you
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: are a whole, and you are manifesting. You're in alignment.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Manifestation happens at the point of alignment. So how you
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: think I talk about the first part is as a
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: man thinking in his heart, so is he right? And
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: the Bible also says think only on the thoughts that
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: are prosperous, positive, and praiseworthy. If you wouldn't pray for it,
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: why would you think it? Because we do become our thoughts.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Our thoughts then create an emotion. Right, and so if
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: I always say if a person can't govern their emotions,
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: they can't govern anything, because your emotions is what creates
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: your appetite. So womanizing, cheating, those are all appetites. Those
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: are our emotionally driven behaviors. If you can't govern how
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: you feel or regulate your emotions, you will always be reactory.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: They did a study where it shows that folks who
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: are in jail right or in prison or will have
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: committed crimes, have less ability to regulate their emotions. That
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: means that their decision making at that time was emotionally reactory.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: It wasn't something that they processed before they produce. It
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: wasn't any emotion that they regulated and then said, let
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: me respond in this way because I calculate the So
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: emotions is something we have to learn to identify regulate
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: so that our appetite and how we show up could
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: be in alignment with what we want to do, who
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: we want to be in our goals, and both of
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: those create our behaviors. Our behaviors are the only thing
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: that creates results if we can get them thoughts and
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: those emotions in alignment how we behave will create the
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: result that we want. And so I teach you not
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: only the tools on this is what you do, but
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: I have a toolkit at the end of every chapter
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: that says, this is how you use the tool. You
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: use this hammer to build this house, use this hammer
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: to destroy this one if it's not serving you. And
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: I use the Moses journey as a metaphor in the book, how.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Many times you have to open your own book and
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: work through it again?
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Because the claim the conversations online in the last couple
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: of weeks, are you actively like going back to your
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: own practices for yourself?
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Though in our real.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Line, I stand on these principles. I don't even have
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: to go back because these principles are my principles. Every day.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: I'm always reprogramming, meditate every day for twenty minutes. I'm definitely,
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: you know, scripture inclined. I mean, I stand on faith.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: Faith is an action word. I'm always making sure that
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: my thoughts are the thoughts that I want to create.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: I'm always reminding myself that everything is working for me
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: that you know, to call a thing that isn't as
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: though I wanted to be. I'm always making sure that
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: I'm obedient to what God is telling me to do.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: I even look, listen, I've had to pray a couple
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: of times this week. I said, God, So what I
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: want to say I'm being honest, I said, God, what
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: I want to say is this. I'm going to pray
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: on it, and in about thirty minutes, I'm going to
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: check in with with my decision making, my emotions, my
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: appetite to see if this is I prayed on it,
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: and God gave me three or four people's names, and
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: he said, would they respond like this?
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: And I said, damn it no, Because.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: Said, so, what is your answer? I said, but God,
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: he said, remember Moses. I told Moses to speak to
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: the rock and he hit it, and because Moses wasn't obedient,
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: he got to the Promised Land and didn't make it
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: into the Promised land. Do you want to be in
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: your wilderness for forty more years or do you want
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: to get into your promise land? I said, I kind
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: of want both. I want to rip them a new
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: fucking tale and I want to get in the promised land.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: He said, you can't have both because you can't be Luke.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: Warn't make a choice. So I willed back. I use
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: the tools that I provided my book, liave your promise.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: I emotionally regulated, I govern myself, and I said I'm
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: So this brings me to the question I was trying
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: to ask a bit back the conversation about your doctorate.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Because people can't find your dissertation online. How are you
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: responding to that in this new era of your life,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Like what is the answer to number one? Like why
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: isn't in online? I've also seen cleians of like there's
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: an alleged like chairman from your university saying that you
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: didn't finish things whatever, Like can you clear that up
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: for the people who are hearing it from one side?
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: But now we have to So I'm going to say this.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: I'm going to clear it up once on here, I'm
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: not doing it again. And I'm clearing it up for
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: my doc squad, for my fan base, for my audience
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: who deserve to hear me address it, for the folks
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: who have already made up their mind to not like me.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Or not understand me. Listen, I don't give a fuck
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: what your narrative is. I would like you to recreate it,
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: double down on it, and run that shit, because I
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: don't give a fuck about it. Now to my doc squad,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: my fan base, my folks, you know. My village is
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: very simple. I went to a school Augusa University, completed
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: an entire program. I went back online to get my
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: official transcripts because I was applying to a law school
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: many years ago to be a professor there, and I
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: had to provide my transcripts right to get hired. And
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: I went to contact the school and say, hey, I
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: need my fenicial transcripts. I need my entire thing. And
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: there was no school. I was like, okay, I'm confused.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: I google it says this school has been shut down.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Oh well, they got to have records. I mean they
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: were accredited when I attended the school. They were accredited
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: when I finished a program. I go and look, there
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: is a third party that has the records. Where I
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: contact the third party, that third party only holds records
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: for two years. I was past my two years, so
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: that means that I had no access to records to anything.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Now whatever, the school did with the transcripts for us,
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: all of us students. Whatever they did with dissertations, we
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: don't know. I even went as far as, you know,
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: contacting my cohorts other students, and they said, look, you know,
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: we're running too the same issue. We're trying to get
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: our transcripts, we're trying to get our information. And then
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: I contacted you know, financial aid. You can't make up
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: financial aid. It shows that I paid for a doctoral
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: program alongside my master's program and my undergrad program. And
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: they said, we can fully refund you your money. Under
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: one circumstance. We giving your money back. You don't get
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: credit for not a class, a course, a program you
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: took in this university, at this this institute. So do
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: you want us to rEFInd you or do you want
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: us not? I said no because I didn't want to
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: risk the chance of them saying, well, we're going to
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: give you back your money and it wipes out your
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: entire program. And so that's just as simple as it is. Luckily,
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: I had, you know, do this with all of the schools.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: I had downloaded from the actual student portal my transcripts
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: at that time, and I was able to get all
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: just about all of my transcripts, including up to like dissertation,
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: but everything else. There's no there's just no holding take
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: for any of our records, which I think is completely
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: completely effed up.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: You're this week, like I said, she has no records.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: They just want to hate you regardless.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Now that's fine, And it's not even that there's no
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: records that I don't. The school had a third party
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: that carry their records only for a limit of two years.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: So it's not me, it's any student that attended ARGUSI
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: whether they say they say student was halfway through the
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: program and they just want to take those units in
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: transfer them because you can the school was accredited. They
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: don't have records for that unless that student was smart
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: enough like myself to print out records from an online
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: student portal and say, look it, I have this and
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: only that. I also kept all of my syllabus. When
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: you keep your syllabus from any course you've taken, then
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: you are due credit for each syllabus. It has a
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: date on there. It gives you the whole curriculum of
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: what you've studied and what it was about and the course.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: And so I just happen to be smart enough to
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: keep all of my syllabus to be able to print
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: out my own records. The only concern is, you know
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: the official ones would need to come from, like my
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: degree from Calsey University Northeast, does my psychology degree come
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: from that? Are my masters? Right? Those schools are still operating,
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: so I can go in and say, hey, how you doing, Lauren?
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: I need to print out my official transcripts. But again,
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: it doesn't How can I say it doesn't affect me?
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Because if I chose to go get a license as
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: an LMFT, I have my master's and marriage and child therapists,
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: I have my hours. I can just take that and say, hey,
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: let me submit these for license ear and I want
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: to go sit for my exam and I'll have to
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: do a study. I don't need a doctorate in counseling
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: psychology to go get licensed as a therapist. That's what
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: we're all missing. So if I just want to go
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: get licensed, and we said, hey, the school shut down,
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: so they're not gonna let you sit for licensing because
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: of that doctorate program school, while I have a master's
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: at a at an institute that is not shut down.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: That is a credit out of meditation. This week they're
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: gonna be on your as I.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Didn't do everything on you. They do that.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: It was like a plagiarism conversation. They were trying to
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: say that. It was like you were discussed from the universe.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: It's been a lot.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: It's been a lot. It's been a lot of false narrative.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: And again, I you know, I my thing is, I
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: don't address any narrative. I like people to have whatever
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: narrative that they like.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Does that happen?
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Business Wise though, it hasn't.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm booked and busy. I'm still on my
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: speaking tour. I'm on my book tour. Book my book. Yeah,
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: this is my second book. I got a double book deal.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: I you know, want to thank Charlet Migne, Charlemagne from
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: when he's not here, Charllete Magne, thank you. You know
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: what I mean, Huh, I'm published now published a house
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: Random House. I want to thank him because when folks
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: were putting in their bid to give me a book deal,
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Charlemagne what his publishing company was one that was in
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: the bidding war, and I'm grateful for that. I want
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: to thank him because you know, I appreciate that, So, no,
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: it doesn't my clients. I still have a four caselow.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: I actually have a waiting list. Since the rhetoric online
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: has inflamed, I actually have people who have just been
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: booking sessions even more because now they have an interest
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: in seeing what my approaches and seeing how my sessions go.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: And so I've had to have other coaches that I
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: have that work for the Doctor Bran Institute take on
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: some of those clients. Some of those clients don't want
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: to see other folks. They want to see me when
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: I leave this interview, I was just telling my team
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: that I have a couple of sessions that I have
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: to do in between y'all at my next interview. So
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: I'm booked and busy. And what people don't understand is this, listen,
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: I'm grateful for the free marketing. I'm just keeping it
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: real because most people knew who I were, who I am,
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: and who I was. But for the ones who didn't,
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: they now know. And if anybody who has made it
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: very far in this industry knows, good or bad, attention
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: is still good attention when you have a brand. And
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: so again it's about how you use it. It's about
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: you know, if you choose to address it, how are
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: you going to address it. It's also about you know,
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: when you have folks who are keeping your face and
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: name recognition extremely large, where are you driving those people too?
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: Are you driving them to you just responding to these people,
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: which does nothing for your clients, for your brand and
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: for your name, or are you driving them to your purpose,
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: which is healing, speaking, my sessions, my book and all
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: the things that I do.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Did it bother you when you had and I don't
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: maybe maybe you didn't have it when you had friends
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: in this industry that were on your side and you
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: see them changing. Did that happen to you with everything
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: that's going on? Did you see people that you you
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: thought you were cool with changing, whether they're you know,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: people on TV or just friends in the industry?
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: You mean with this situation?
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: Absolutely?
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: I love that because it actually showed how many people
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: really were ten toes down for me. I'm serious. I
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: was like, Yo, you know what, I knew people rock
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: with me. I'm like, but people are rocking with me?
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: You know? There were you know, people who went and
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: did live responses on social media and was like doc,
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: I need you to address this. I'm like, I'm not
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: addressing shit. I'm not you know, maybe if someone asks
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: me on an interview and I decide to, I will,
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: but it would be for my people, not for the
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: small group of folks who are extremely low functioning because
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: they're not reading terminology, they're not doing their research, and
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: they're showing their card that this is a jealousy envy
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: thing because someone created their own lane and you're in
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: a lane that has you stuck in what you've decided.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: I'm not in a box and I'm not going to be.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: And so a lot of folks did that. And then
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: I have a lot of friends who are you know,
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: A listers and clients who are a listeners who do
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: have a brand, and I understand that, who have reached
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: out and said I want to make a statement. How
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: can I do it so it doesn't hurt you?
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: I love that doc? What do you need from me?
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: Do you need me to say this? Do you need
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: me to vouch for you? And usually I say no,
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm okay, I just you reaching out is enough,
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: But these times, like you just said, MB show you
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: you know who who solid? And I really, I really
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: just had folks that showed up and showed out, and
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: I had a team. I mean, I got to say
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: listen as soon as all this hit my team, hey house,
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: you know, my my publicist, Lakeisha. I mean, everybody texts
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: like hop on a call and it wasn't hop on
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: a call? What's going on? Is this true? Is it not?
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: It was? How are you doing? Because you're on stages
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: every other day, you're on your book tour. You are
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: you know, booked and busy? How are you doing? How
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: can we help you continue to process through this? And
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: so again? You know, I know this sounds bananas, but
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: people who are successful understand this. This is free marketing.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: I get attention online that people pay for. And I
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: tell God all the time, I said, God, whatever you did,
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: whatever it fascin, it never turned. I said, if I
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: wear something, if I put a bobby pin in my hair,
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: if my you know, if my eyelashes is at three
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: o'clock and out of four o'clock. Baby, they are going
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: crazy in online. And I made a joke this morning
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: with my assistant head of hair. He mentioned posting or
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: doing something. I said no, I said no, I said,
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: we own the internet, and he started dying laughing, and
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: he said, yes you do.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: And so I'm great.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: I'm really I'm grateful. I'm really grateful for it. And
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: you know, like Shaquille O'Neil shocks one of my good friends,
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: and I remember a couple of years back, there was
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: some it been NonStop, it was something else going on,
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: and he called me to check on me and said,
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: what's up, Champ. You're good. I said, yeah, I'm good.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: He said, listen, good or bad attention? Good to bad attention? Dog,
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: it's good attention. You want it all? You want it all?
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: I said, I know, you know, but but it is
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: a slight adjustment because you know, you do have I
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: have to work on more controlling my snap back, you know,
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: because my because you know, my mouthpiece and the way
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: I'm set up, I could say things that I have business.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: Sometimes I think you.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Do it in a way that you know, it's it's
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: very it fits who you are and kind of what
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: you're putting out at this point a little elevated, you know,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: every now and then. But I think for me, I'm
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: glad to hear you say people are actually calling your
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: real life and being like, are you okay? Because when
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: I'm reading the book and you're going from you're thinking
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: to your feelings to like behaving and how you have
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: to act in real life, and then in real life
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: you're experiencing this.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I know she's human though.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: One hundred percent, but let's be realistic. Let's talk about
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: the big, big, big dogs. Let's talk about the Oprahs.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: Majority of black folks, for some reason, don't like her.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: You think oh is sitting there thinking about how she's
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: gonna clap back at somebody.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: She'd be in her guarden with baby baby.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: I just seen her and gel in Fashion Week. Mama
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: Olden lost about thirty pounds. She is killing it. You
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: think that Tyler Perry claps back at everybody online. He
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: was at Cardi b concert two nights in a row, Honey.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: He's he's courtside at the game, he's writing, creating a movie.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: He has Tyler Perry's studios. Really, and I'm gonna go
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: to another name that people absolutely hate, but they are
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: one of the most richest famous families out there, the Kardashians.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: You think that family sits around the dinner table and
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: has meetings about how these how many folks don't like them.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: They're planning their next deal, They're playing their next partnership.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: Kim's trying to figure out how she can get another
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: partnership with skims Kylie's Somethingbaut makeup and cosmetics. Chris Jenner
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: is on a private jet somewhere in freaking Mikono's with her.
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: I don't want to say why am but her young man,
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: But so what I'm saying is when you look at
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: the people Obama, how many black folks love and then
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: hate him because he didn't do enough. But he did
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  Speaker 4: do And I mean, so you got all the most successful, affluent,
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: influential people who are hated the most. And if God
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: said to me loud and clear, baby, I'm gonna give
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: you much territory. And if you think you're gonna occupy
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: this level of territory and that people are not gonna
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: attempt to possess it, you have lost your mind. Then
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: you're just not ready for that level of bigness. Because
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: all the folks who are moving in that space, being
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: in that space, they've had to learn what I'm teaching
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: and live your promise, how to think a certain way,
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: feel a certain way, and behave a certain way. So
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: that the outside chatter doesn't affect how they live because
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: you don't put in all this work to get here
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  Speaker 4: and then live in fucking dogma. I don't not at all.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna still run my place the way I want
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: to do them, the way that I've created them, in
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  Speaker 4: my lane that I've created.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 3: There you have it. The new book is out right
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  Speaker 3: now live your promise. We appreciate you for joining us,
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: being so open, of course, so much. Anytime you see
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: up here or out and about, we appreciate love definitely.
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  Speaker 4: Do you know I'm gonna come here and bring the truth.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Congratulations on the book. It's good.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Doctor Cheyenne Bryant. And she's coming back at all.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, every day, breakfast club.
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  Speaker 2: Finish for y'all.
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  Speaker 4: Done,