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Bear & Balanced: Bears Beatdown Browns in Practice Football Game · 2nd City Gridiron

• 0:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to Baron Balanced.
• 0:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm Jeff Burkis on the side of the screen.
• 0:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Lester A, Wilthong, Jr. Lester.
• 0:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Practice football is better than no football.
• 0:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: We got a good one yesterday.
• 0:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ben Johnson still undefeated in the preseason.
• 0:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: A big 34 to 10 win over the Cleveland Browns.
• 0:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: How'd you take the game?
• 0:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love preseason, you know, but I just I'd like watching the battles, you know, I like watching the camp battles that during camp, that's why I like going to practice once and a while.
• 0:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's fun to see those guys fight for a job, right?
• 0:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's only so many of these jobs in the NFL, 53 man roster, 16 man practice squad, 90 man off season roster.
• 0:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, a lot of these guys that are playing toward the end of the game, they're playing for their livelihood.
• 0:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: So,
• 0:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of effort out there and I think it's, I mean, it's fun.
• 0:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's fun watching these guys go all out and try and, you know, capture their dream and keep it going.
• 1:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it might sound a little cliche, but it's these guys have an opportunity to put on tape, professional football plays that they can then use as a resume to stay in Chicago or to chop to the other 31 teams of the league, they have opportunities to live out a dream, even if I get a little frustrated, just full disclosure, I get a little fresh every season, the same thing, there'll be a rookie, you know, Fernando Mendoza.
• 1:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Fernando Mendoza's first NFL touchdown pass I think it's not it's a practice game doesn't count it they they will say the exact same thing in week one or two or whatever when he gets his first actual regular season touchdown pass they'll they'll then say his first NFL touchdown pass
• 1:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: because these games are practice and they don't really count on the full official sets, you know, unless you're, I don't know, a beat reporter that, you know, tracks adjust the completion percentage and in training camp or something like that, but.
• 2:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I will put that aside.
• 2:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought that there was a lot of really interesting stuff that happened in this game.
• 2:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's actually much harder to do a post game of a preseason game because there's so many players that are contributing and there's so many like, well,
• 2:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: right but you know the browns had their stars in when the bears had backups in during this time and then vice versa you know like so you have to kind of put into context like well yeah they were playing a level up or level down or you know this this happened at this time you know but but it's fun to fun to sift through going back and rewatching a preseason game is a is a different level of crazy but of course we're dedicated we're dedicated to to the craft so we we both went back and watched this thing again
• 2:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: And a victory is fun.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's some fun stuff.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to get into it.
• 2:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's not waste time.
• 2:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's get into the trust review.
• 2:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's I'm going to let you go first.
• 2:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think there's a very obvious one.
• 2:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we'll see what you had.
• 2:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go jammery kroma.
• 2:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is that am I saying that pronoun?
• 2:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you got that you have to.
• 3:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: We have to talk about him.
• 3:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Six tackles, three tackles for loss, two sacks, force fumble, fumble recovery.
• 3:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: He got the trifecta move on that one with you at the sack, the strip, and the recovery that all three.
• 3:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think I saw it might have been propapopoca said that he led the NFL preseason thus far in pressures.
• 3:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, look, he's been off for a couple years now in Chicago.
• 3:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, he was a UDFA from them originally or one of these, you know, guys, they found the Patriots signed him away from the bears.
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if a lot of people know this part of his, his career trajectory, but the Patriots signed him off the Burst practice squad.
• 3:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: He never got in the game.
• 3:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Patriots cut him eventually came back to Chicago's practice squad.
• 3:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he's been in Chicago ever since, but I mean, look,
• 3:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Can he be the answer at edge for the bears?
• 3:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, it's one game, but he had a lot of effort.
• 3:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he had a lot of good stuff on film right there.
• 3:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Pretty much played the whole game.
• 3:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he was making an impact from the first series of the last series.
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's one of those things where during the game, like they awarded the player the game at some point, the broadcast, awarded the player the game to Beanie Bishop.
• 4:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, wait, what?
• 4:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I get it, you have two picks, but I mean, they were kind of just right at them, they're at them balls, right?
• 4:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I was surprised that it didn't give it to, to, to jammery, right?
• 4:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then he, yeah, he's been around, but I don't remember him making an impact in his first couple of pre-season, but enough to stick around.
• 4:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I went to his pro football reference page.
• 4:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: was like this guy, I've been in a game.
• 4:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: He has not, never.
• 4:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it just, it's like, made the practice squad in 2014, or to sorry, 2024 signed by New England like to mention, they cut them three weeks later, signed back to the Bears practice squad the next week after he was cut by New England, you know, after the waivers process.
• 4:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: So they like them, they wanted them back.
• 5:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, made it the whole year on the practice squad, signed to a futures contract in 2025, they went through the free season sign until new staff and press them enough to stay on the practice squad last year and then sign them to a futures contract again this January and now here he is and getting an opportunity to make plays and be on the field and I mean.
• 5:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 5:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of question marks around this depth chart on the defensive line.
• 5:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why can't I guy like this push for a roster spot if you can give you those high effort, you know,
• 5:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: snaps like what are we even talking about that you don't kind of the van der Berg thing right I mean what we're talking about.
• 5:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ten snaps a game where he can come in and I'm trying to give you a little juice.
• 5:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's crazy.
• 5:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't really don't think it's crazy that he could maybe push for a spot and maybe unseat somebody who may have been expected to be there.
• 5:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there are unhailed guys around the NFL that always come out of nowhere, practice squad guys that kind of have a chance and they finally get their, you know, making impact.
• 6:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I caught his, his, his locker room press conference afterwards and I wasn't aware of this, but he said he dropped like 20 pounds in the off season.
• 6:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: He wanted to re-rework his body of he added lean muscle mass he said.
• 6:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: So here's a guy that realized I want to get a little quicker off the snap.
• 6:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's cut a little weight, got a little stronger in the weight room.
• 6:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And look, it's not like he's an old guy trying to catch on.
• 6:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's he's he's fairly young and his NFL career.
• 6:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, so why not Jamry Chroma?
• 6:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why can't he be the bear's, you know, guy that comes in and gives us some defensive end reps here?
• 6:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, again, in his third year, we talked a lot about that development curve of like survive your rookie season and then get in that strength and conditioning program and you know learn the system a little more start putting on like some some good weight some counter moves like learning learning you know all that and then you're too really making an impact that doesn't mean that like you can't take that up another year and like and then finally make that impact right so you know small school guy.
• 7:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I it's not crazy to me, you know, again, you don't want to get to a far ahead of yourself.
• 7:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's one performance, but if he's been flashing and camp and they put him out there to like, you know, hey, games yours, but go out and like you're going to play the whole game.
• 7:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's really impressive and he was the obvious one we absolutely had to talk about him.
• 7:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if we're going to talk about some of these other guys throughout.
• 7:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I kind of wanted to talk about him here.
• 7:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I just I watched Barnett, the vanilla gorilla a little bit.
• 7:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I thought he had some good movement, um, any climb to the next level.
• 7:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: He plays with a little bit of violence.
• 7:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, techniques, I think are working progress, you know, but that's probably to be expected for a UDFA.
• 7:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, he's got a lot of, he's got a lot of power.
• 7:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's got some violence to him.
• 7:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, and then I don't know if you remember, but earlier in camp, the,
• 7:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Vanilla Gorilla and Vandenberg got into a little tussle and there was a little, I believe, a body slam And so I wish that was on film somewhere because that would have been fun to see, but I don't know.
• 8:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would be great to see.
• 8:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah But of course, you know, we want to we want to talk about Vandenberg as well You know, there was one play early on where I thought he recognized that it was a screen pretty quick You know, a lot of defensive linemen will just keep running at the quarterback and they're not getting there.
• 8:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Was that the Malikma Hammett Tackle
• 8:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I believe there's a band members right there behind them.
• 8:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yep.
• 8:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he pealed off and he chased the running back.
• 8:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: He, you know, he was very in on the play.
• 8:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he wouldn't gotten an assist attack.
• 8:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: But like he was that's good recognition.
• 8:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: A lot again, a lot of the friends of the line will just keep running off the field.
• 8:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, they'll be like, why is the quarterback just dropping straight back?
• 8:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 8:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, this is as an offensive lineman before more offensive lineman.
• 8:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like to make fun of defensive lineman.
• 8:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's a lot of times, which you see from defensive lineman is just, oh, why did I get through so easy?
• 8:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he, he recognized it pretty quick and peeled off.
• 9:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was good.
• 9:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought he had some real flashes of dominance.
• 9:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I, there was just, you could just see that raw power.
• 9:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: You can see, you know, he'll
• 9:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: make a move and like he's he's by a guy like you you can tell he moved like you said last week he moves different yeah and so you can see these these like flashes where you're like whoa okay and then the next play like very next play like he flash great play you're like oh wow and then you're watching them the next play and it's like oh he just keeps his copy and kit and it's like he's
• 9:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to get beat with technique, you know, pretty regularly at this point in his maturation.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's he's going to get fooled.
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, there's a couple times where there's once not a couple times.
• 9:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think there was once where it felt like he might have stopped himself because I think he thought he felt something coming from the slightly like what's happening.
• 9:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, no, you're just that.
• 9:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's where you need to go.
• 9:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so again, it's just, it's wraps that's learning.
• 9:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's getting in.
• 9:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's survived that rookie season, right?
• 9:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like get through the rookie season.
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: See if you can make a contribution.
• 10:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: No one should think that this guy's going to come in and be a starter, no one should come in and think that this guy's going to be a this year, right?
• 10:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like this guy's not going to like dominate from week one, but if you can develop him into getting a few reps, it game in a game out, get get that energy, give your starters a break.
• 10:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think he can do that, but he's he's exciting, but he's got a long way to go.
• 10:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, his technique thing.
• 10:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's that's one reason why he fell to the six round.
• 10:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'd be the strength the athleticism.
• 10:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, free kiss.
• 10:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: He made the freaks list, you know, coming out and and it's one thing that he's always going to have that to lean back on and he even talked about, you know, not now that he's in a fellow.
• 10:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: He has learned to play a little slower.
• 10:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: He has to trust his technique.
• 10:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, in college, it was just like, you know, attack, you know, constant, you know, violence.
• 10:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's be mean and angry and attack the football, and now he's learning that, hey, I've got a job to do.
• 10:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I just can't go also the wall and just go attack what I see.
• 10:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got to, you know, be smart and use my technique and, and, you know, I think he's, I think it'll come.
• 11:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if a coaching sometimes is all guys need to hit unlocked.
• 11:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he has to work from counter moves a few times he got stuck on blocks.
• 11:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of good there.
• 11:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, a lot of good stuff there, a lot of pressure.
• 11:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think I saw it again.
• 11:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Go Mecca.
• 11:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was PFF.
• 11:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure.
• 11:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just saw someone shares someone so ahead.
• 11:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: This many pressures.
• 11:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, yeah, three pressures.
• 11:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then they never share the source.
• 11:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it's from a reputable guy that, you know, usually shares good info.
• 11:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, okay, it's it's probably whatever it is.
• 11:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's one of those sites out there.
• 11:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, so I'm going to say I think an FL.com site kind of down for three.
• 11:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, are they doing pressures now?
• 11:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.
• 11:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I looked at the game stats and a next game.
• 11:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I saw that.
• 11:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, perfect.
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's one of those things we're like.
• 11:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's there, right?
• 11:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's it's going to be fun to kind of watch him grow.
• 11:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: And like you said, he's not going to come in to start week one.
• 11:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: But there's there's some there's some tools there.
• 11:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to be fun to see him grow.
• 11:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was looking at the stats because I wanted to later in the show.
• 12:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll have some stats, but I guess we should have mentioned back up to Jamory.
• 12:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: He had six tackles, three tackles for loss, two sacks, a force fumble and a fumble recovery.
• 12:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's such stuff in the stat sheet.
• 12:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 12:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so he had a great game.
• 12:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I, you know,
• 12:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Again, it's practice football, but like I remember last year, I mean, again, they played really well in the preseason, but you were like, well, there may be not very deep in a lot of places.
• 12:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, there's there's some real shallowness to the roster.
• 12:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And now you've got your two of the Ben Johnson regime.
• 12:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: you're starting to you know turn over that roster completely more to what his vision is and you're starting to see these bottom of the roster guys mid roster guys that are more in his image and in Dennis Allen's image and it's like oh okay like now it's starting to feel like the depth is a little more there you're right like the offensive line depth feels a little better than it certainly that it did a couple years ago the you know the defensive line depth
• 13:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's a little more interesting than we thought.
• 13:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: It may not have that a lot of blue chip talent, right?
• 13:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't have the high-end talent, but it's like, oh, the depth is maybe a little bit better than we were thinking it might be, right?
• 13:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I think that that's the big takeaway from me in the trench tree where it was like, that the depth on the defensive line might be a little bit better shape that's just the high end might not be there.
• 13:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: The floor is a little better than that I might have expected.
• 13:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Alright, well let's let's move on to categories, caught up in a number's game instead of the week.
• 13:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Where do you want to go with us?
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: My number's two.
• 13:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, just two penalties by the bears and the present game number one.
• 13:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean last year's open against the often they had seven and two penalties, they had more than that and every, right, which is the game last year.
• 13:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you got a bunch of guys that are
• 13:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: pros for what in the and the bearer system for, you know, not even very long a few months.
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the the fundamentals were good.
• 14:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the the discipline was good to penalties.
• 14:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Come on, that's that's unheard of in a preseason game.
• 14:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's something that Ben talked about in this postgame pressure.
• 14:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: He actually let off his his pressure with it.
• 14:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: He talked with his injuries and then right into how how proud of his team for only having the two penalties.
• 14:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's something that's definitely good there because penalties were an issue last year at times in early on.
• 14:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so if that's going to be cleaned up a little bit, another one of those things where it'll help the offense be that much better.
• 14:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man, the first, I mean, three snap penalties.
• 14:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, there's some delays of game, false starts, legal motions.
• 14:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, just like, come on, like, yes, it's complex.
• 14:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And yes, there's a lot of things moving on, moving pieces, but like I really frustrating, really quick.
• 14:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, but it's, it's a learning curve, right?
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: But now it's not just Caleb Williams, that's been now in the second year of the Ben Johnson system.
• 15:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: it's nice and Beijing, it's case kingdom, right?
• 15:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you've got these guys that are like comfortable in the system, the receivers, the alignment, everybody has a, you're starting at that higher level.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: We talked about that, right?
• 15:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like we came into this year and it's like the fire hose that the cap talking about and you know, everybody's, it's just, it's all this information it's so hard, but they threw them into the deep end because they wanted them to learn how to swim.
• 15:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: They didn't want to just, you know,
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: put floaties on them, right?
• 15:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, now it's like, well, we know you know how to swim.
• 15:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: So let's jump in the deep end and let's let's figure it out, right?
• 15:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so you're starting from that higher level.
• 15:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's great.
• 15:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
• 15:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a good set.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like that a lot.
• 15:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Minus 158.3 for those of you that know I know pass the rating that is a perfect pass the rating that was recorded by one Mr. Case Kena QB3 young kid nine out of ten passing 151 yards and two touchdowns no interceptions and just looked comfortable like you know just just look like I don't know like a
• 16:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: You just plan the game on easy mode, you know, like you play the video game and you win like 90 to nothing because you're just on the easy mode and you're just, you know, every play works, that's what it felt like and and I know that that's people like whatever it's the third stringers and blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Caleb Williams has been durable, right?
• 16:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like that's one thing about him.
• 16:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: He got beat up his rookie year, but he played every game.
• 16:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And last year was a lot better on that, but he played every game, right?
• 16:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you hope that we don't need to see these guys, but not only is case key in bringing,
• 16:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: another coach, but as a player for Caleb Williams, he's a guy that you could start him if you needed to.
• 16:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: He could run this off.
• 16:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: He could get by as a stopgap for a week or two.
• 16:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's why last year I was like, if Caleb Williams was this time, I think I would play a full game.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: of case keynote, I would feel comfortable with him starting whereas Tyson Bayesian, he can finish the game, right?
• 17:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I think there might be a weird thing that could happen.
• 17:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I still think that's in play, but we'll talk about Bayesian here in a little bit.
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I just, I was just like, oh, it's soothing.
• 17:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just very comfortable that you have this like brick glass in case of emergency.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you'll be able to be reaching your ceiling,
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Good pro understands the scheme, you know, just to just knows then I felt a ball and then like I like you said if he's ever called upon a play, you trust he can run the offense and I think he's What the hell 158.3 I can't stand that that's perfect like this the way that looks to me just you know, I know what it is I know why I know the math what it is just such a stupid formula.
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Which I think is why that ESPN kind of invented their one that they won't explain and how they do it because it's like a more even numbers, but I just think it's a weird 155.3 So stupid.
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I should have come up with a very stupid and it's all about like what the result would be Like they wanted like a hundred to be like, oh wow, a hundred quarterback rating.
• 18:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's really great.
• 18:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so that's like why they
• 18:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it was a it was a more about like well, how do I what does this number look like what in I that's still kind of a dumb thing and it's not really Defensible, but it happened like this was created like the 70s or 60s or something like that.
• 18:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's been around a long time.
• 18:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's dumb.
• 18:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that they're that far off if I was to create my own quarterbacks that.
• 18:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like I would use some of these elements.
• 18:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would just wait them differently and I would probably I would add a different element here and there, but like, you know, interception rate touchdown rate.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Those aren't bad right.
• 18:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's used all the time.
• 18:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: We all know.
• 18:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's why we go back to it.
• 19:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: But yes, one, two, three stupid.
• 19:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Twitter portion social media, sweet tweets.
• 19:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: What do you got my go.
• 19:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll go first.
• 19:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got a video.
• 19:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: You want me to go first?
• 19:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'll go first.
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you consider that on the podcast side of things.
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you're gonna have to go to Twitter to see this.
• 19:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: If that's you want to do, but it's a cream sleeve.
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: We almost cream sleeve now.
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was at the game Saturday and from his seat, he's got a beautiful shot here of the Hammond Indiana skyline.
• 19:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look at that beautiful smoke stacks, just polluting the air
• 19:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's no way that bears are going to Indiana.
• 19:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: This has just been such a ruse, you know, Roger Gaddell met with, you know, Illinois lawmakers, Roger Gaddell's kind of like, what the, what are you guys doing here?
• 19:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's, let's get this done.
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: We cannot have the pride and joy of Illinois going across state lines.
• 19:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Even though it's closer to the city limits, get out of here with that crap.
• 19:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I know you, your real-life job have some insight into like building on a marshland area.
• 20:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I won't get into the environmental piece of all this, but the idea that you your top site is called Lost Marsh is like a first red flag for me of like, ah, you sure you want to, I mean, the amount of endangered species stuff you'd have to worry about, you know, you'd have, you know, hydric soils, it's a build on, you know, I mean, it's a mushroom, so it's always what?
• 20:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: man.
• 20:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, so think about like think about trying to build in that area and what's going to happen, you know, you just it's there's a whole thing.
• 20:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like don't build on a swamp.
• 20:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like just just don't do it.
• 20:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Don't build on a swamp.
• 20:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a good idea.
• 20:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Put it on a bumper sticker.
• 20:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a bad idea.
• 20:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.
• 20:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what that skylight.
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think it's Gary or it's like probably.
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 20:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: But still, it's a very funny tweet and it is definitely going along.
• 20:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I saw it and I was like, I should use that and then I came in and you had already put it in.
• 21:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, okay, we're on the same page.
• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes we share a brain.
• 21:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so yeah, I know that they're taking this pretty far and I think that they have to.
• 21:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's almost like, well, let's keep going with this.
• 21:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: The bears have not cleared enough of the Indiana land to make it viable for what they want to do anyway.
• 21:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think these sites make sense from a development standpoint.
• 21:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it gets them the revenue that they're looking for.
• 21:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: They really want to develop the Arlington Heights land.
• 21:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: That might not be as great as what it would be downtown Chicago, obviously, but it's also like the bears already own it, they're ready to go, you know, they just, they want some tax certainty, we don't need to get into the politics of all that George McCaskey came on to continue this, but I agree with you like.
• 21:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: We know that Roger Gdell went in and met with that he's now they bring it in the heavy right they're bringing them in then you know I think he was like enough of this tom foolery let's you know stop effort around and let's get this done you guys played your card you know you've made your point but let let's really get Illinois on board here let's work together you know stop working through the press and you know
• 22:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they announced that they were solely focusing on Indiana.
• 22:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then that same morning, Kevin Warren is sending emails to Illinois lawmakers and I'm looking forward to continuing working on this.
• 22:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you're really trying to understand the whole picture, it's this thing is far from over.
• 22:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just, I don't believe it.
• 22:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not like I hate Indiana, which I do, but like it's not like, that's not why.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: We love, we love all the bears fans.
• 22:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: We love bears fans.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: We just don't want to feel like they're there.
• 22:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: But they already have an NFL team.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, no, no, no.
• 22:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, yeah, I don't know.
• 22:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's, it's not.
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't make any sense to me.
• 22:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 22:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
• 22:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: It makes a lot more sense to stay in Illinois.
• 22:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: But, you know,
• 22:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Way back when, Georgetown has had like training camp down down in that area, like there's, there's some history with the bears in that area too.
• 23:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, all right, mine, our guy, Jacob and Fonte, at Jacob and Fonte 24.
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you don't follow Jacob and Fonte on Twitter, you might be the only one that's not following him.
• 23:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think he has all of the followers at this point.
• 23:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, but he said it's so refreshing to be a bears fan and to finally see my team executing a well-designed and well-blocked screen.
• 23:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Jacob's not nearly as old as the two of us.
• 23:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so he didn't have to live through like the 90s when, like, screenplays were basically code for, can we get minus four yards on first down?
• 23:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's bread a screen.
• 23:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Or let's run a toss, let's run a toss plate for negative five, like there was just there's this era where it was like we couldn't do basic things and I know screens can be somewhat more complicated, but yeah it's been a long time since a bear's offense has been.
• 24:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't know if the bear's off and there's ever been good at screens.
• 24:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: But even just like decent at the screen game, I can't remember the last time I felt pretty good when there would be a screen called.
• 24:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: And now it's like, these things are dangerous.
• 24:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like they're creative.
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of guys that are getting out in space and they move well in the blocking game.
• 24:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so now you've got,
• 24:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: open field and multiple blockers and like they start to get pretty dangerous.
• 24:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously there was a big expulsive touchdown score to one of these screenplays yesterday, but yeah overall I just I think that the Ben Johnson scheme understands
• 24:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think which stung so much as bears fans over the years is how good the packers were running screens.
• 24:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 24:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Farve, Rogers, you know, Jordan love, you know, I mean, the packers have always been a good screen team.
• 24:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's something that as bear fans, we got burned by so often.
• 25:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And like I said, the bears weren't doing it very well.
• 25:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, so here are the bears.
• 25:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I know the, the place Jacob's talking about is the one to sell on Ahmed, my saying all right.
• 25:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're the pronunciation guy.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I will call them Ahmed, so I think that's what I'm going to Ahmed.
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I figured it's Ahmed, but yeah, it was a nice play.
• 25:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Line me out in front.
• 25:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: You talk about vanilla gorilla.
• 25:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: He has two blocks that in that play.
• 25:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Logan Jones out in front.
• 25:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Caden Davis received her block and down field.
• 25:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that was a very well block screen and speaking of screens, JP Richardson.
• 25:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: He had a few nice receiver screens.
• 25:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Both his catches, I think, were, were flip screens or bubble screens.
• 25:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure what the time.
• 25:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: But, uh,
• 25:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: screen screens work now.
• 25:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: You've been jats and nose offends.
• 25:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's how to run a screen.
• 25:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the bed jats can do it all.
• 25:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I just love it.
• 25:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, look, I'm a bass man, we're always going to try to, you know, there's so much of our history in this podcast has been trying to like, well, this is how it can work and then like, just go get it bad.
• 26:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't seem like it's going to work, but this is how it could work, right?
• 26:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, and now it's like, you just get to sit back and enjoy, because this is like, well, Ben's got to take care of it and Ben, we trust, right?
• 26:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, it's a, it's a,
• 26:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm a big Ben Johnson fan, right?
• 26:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm number one.
• 26:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm president of the fan club.
• 26:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be happy to carry that role.
• 26:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's any time I can promote good Ben Johnson stuff I will.
• 26:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Kept the name, Caleb's corner.
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, Caleb did not play yesterday.
• 26:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: He did have an interview on the sidelines.
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if I'm going to critique Caleb a little bit,
• 26:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: It would be when your team makes a big play like an interception, just be like kick it up to the guys of stairs like just like, you know, just have them Kick it back to the booth and so that they can cover the play and and then see if they'll come back to you to answer the question because he just tried to like talk over the crowd noise and complete his answer.
• 26:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I thought
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he was in the moment.
• 27:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like he's doing his interview that it happened and he called it interception.
• 27:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: He did anyway.
• 27:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, he called interception.
• 27:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: He kept killing him and went right back and figured it was in it.
• 27:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look, it's practice.
• 27:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's no practice.
• 27:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a practice game.
• 27:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he's like, that's not a real game.
• 27:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if it was against the the lines and in December.
• 27:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: He wouldn't be talking on the side.
• 27:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: He wouldn't be talking on the side.
• 27:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think it's relaxed.
• 27:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's having fun out there.
• 27:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: But Caleb did get some work in before the game.
• 27:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think Ben Johnson said they got about over 60 snaps with the first string offense.
• 27:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was very happy with how that went.
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: They kind of simulated game situations as far as getting the plan and going through that.
• 27:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they got a lot of work in the middle.
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't.
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it was good to see.
• 27:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: But Caleb's corner, I assume we're going to talk about Beijing here, right?
• 27:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're going to talk about Bayesian there.
• 27:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: So...
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here's what I saw of Tyson Bayesian stood tall on the pocket on that throw to Davis with big explosive plate on the field.
• 27:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nice throw.
• 27:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: He had the touchdown and Maurice Alexander off a play action, which he went back to the right, which I thought was it was a nice little play action move, play action fake and then went right back to the right, Alexander who ran a nice route,
• 28:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: back shoulder and play their pass there.
• 28:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was pretty pretty slick.
• 28:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Another corner route.
• 28:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was pretty good at a bad pick, which made him mad and then took a bad sack, which took them to the edge of field goal range.
• 28:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: They still were able to convert.
• 28:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: So not a perfect game from Tyson Bayesian, but overall like showed poise looked good running the offense.
• 28:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you can
• 28:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: differences from a guy like Caleb Williams to Tyson pageant, but like he's knows what throws he can make and where he can put it.
• 28:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And for the most part, I thought that a pretty nice job put the ball in arms way a couple times one the pick and there was another one over the middle where threw in double coverage and missed high, which is almost, it's that's a recipe for disaster.
• 29:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know,
• 29:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's a solid backup and this is right and he gets talked about in very glowing terms from a lot of people in the media, which I think is probably informed by at least some level of front office people around the league thinking that he's a pretty good asset.
• 29:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's funny with Beijing.
• 29:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: We talked about this before.
• 29:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's two big groups of Beijing people.
• 29:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: People love him and they overhype him too much and others just hate him and can't stand him.
• 29:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: They can't stand the whole Beijing story.
• 29:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: But that's because of the hype gets.
• 29:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: But
• 29:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: He is a good, like I said, he's a good number two in this league.
• 29:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And look, if he had right opportunity arises, he could probably run a team.
• 29:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's going to be something where it's got to be the right offense, the right situation for him.
• 29:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you know, he could do it.
• 29:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: If the opportunity arises, he's going to be your fridge in a couple years.
• 29:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I know he's would love to get a big deal somewhere.
• 29:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: There were some talk this last season.
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: A couple teams were talking to the bears about a trade possibility.
• 30:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: The bear said, nah, so I'm sure there was an
• 30:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because if another team comes to here's a two for Beijing, I think if as the bears, okay, so, I mean, that's happened.
• 30:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think if someone comes to the big enough offer, no matter how much they like him,
• 30:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a move they're going to make.
• 30:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that may happen at some point.
• 30:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look, this is some film.
• 30:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: He gets out to talk about guys getting stuff on film for other teams.
• 30:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is Beijing's chance.
• 30:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was pretty pissed off about the pick.
• 30:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure he's pissed off about that one.
• 30:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: He threw high he was laid on both of those and I think he knows he can't make that play and he attest to understand that at better times and.
• 30:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: He'll play again next week a little bit of play again on the following week a little bit.
• 30:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: He'll get some reps in those Scrimmage games.
• 30:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure against those teams on those those days, so good film that he can put out there for those guys as well.
• 30:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: So He's a good number two and he's a possible.
• 30:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is he one of the top 32 quarterbacks in the NFL?
• 30:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe, you know, I mean, but at some point he'll get a chance and if he doesn't That's that's a good problem for the bears to have you.
• 31:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: They got a good number two and a good number three
• 31:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, it's it's one of those where I think a lot of people would say, oh, I'm not sure I didn't have for anything because you might need them this year, and the bears have deep best, deep playoff aspirations.
• 31:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: So don't, you know, don't trade him.
• 31:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not worth it.
• 31:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do think that if somebody came over the top and, you know,
• 31:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what the right situation is for him.
• 31:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where he would fit perfect.
• 31:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't spent a lot of time thinking about it.
• 31:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And there's a lot of really good coaches that could take quarterbacks with that maybe don't have the ceiling, like Beijing does not have a huge ceiling that you'd be attracted to.
• 31:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: To use a quarterback like that, effectively, right?
• 31:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: But there's some that, like,
• 31:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: But you know, there might be a team is like, we just need a pretty competent guy, well, we need a, we need a high floor guy and we think you can be that guy.
• 31:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's also teams that
• 32:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: might not want to make that move even if they had like an injury like I mean the Browns yesterday they're a whole mess right but there's a there's a there's a a nod the wink to a team like the the Browns and the the the cardinals where it's like you're going for your quarterback in this next draft and so if you bring in a guy that's going to raise the floor a little bit he might win you some games
• 32:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that isn't what you want this time.
• 32:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: So there's a weird, like, who is the team that would want to come out?
• 32:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not a bad team.
• 32:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: A bad team shouldn't want Tyson Beijing because he might actually win your game or two.
• 32:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so it's like that and because you're quarterbacks in the next draft, that that's what that's where you're going.
• 32:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: So who would be this team?
• 32:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think it would take an injury.
• 32:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it would take like real disc content with your current backup and and your guys, you know, ah, our guys going to miss half the year.
• 33:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: We need to make a move here.
• 33:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's call Chicago.
• 33:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're kind of desperate.
• 33:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: We really need to like push in here for this year.
• 33:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: See if you can keep the team afloat.
• 33:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, that's a hard thing to do, too, is to trade for a quarterback and then expect into play right away.
• 33:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 33:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: And even a guy like Bayesian, he's still on the, you know, he doesn't have any NFL starts.
• 33:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, he does, but like, as a rookie, three years ago, you know, and different system and all that.
• 33:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's, it's a,
• 33:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: It would be an interesting thing to happen.
• 33:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't think it's going to happen.
• 33:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I think he's here.
• 33:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's why, hopefully he gets his huge deal and the bears were able to get a compact outfit.
• 33:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: That would be good.
• 33:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's another thing that could happen, yeah.
• 33:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Result, too.
• 33:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what happens.
• 33:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, quick break.
• 33:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Other side of this, we're going to run through everybody's favorite category, the three bears stick with us.
• 33:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's say three bears, hot bowl of porridge, cold bowl of porridge and just right.
• 33:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had a little bit of fun with this one.
• 33:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's start with the hot bowl of porridge.
• 34:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, real quick, can I jump in with this quick, quick little word from a sponsor here?
• 34:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: We got a bonus sponsor this week for us?
• 34:07
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• 34:23
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• 34:34
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• 35:24
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• 35:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, three bears, Hubble, porridge, starting there, multiple candidates for this one.
• 35:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: We've already talked about jambory, so probably not going to give him.
• 35:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's already got his bull.
• 35:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's be honest, he's going to pop it down.
• 35:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 35:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Where else do you want to go here?
• 35:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I got two.
• 35:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So why don't you lead us off here in
• 35:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: You can go with save on Ahmed, three catches 55 yards one touchdown on that screen pass that we talked about two rushes for 17 yards.
• 35:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I, this guy had some juice a few years ago.
• 36:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was a pretty interesting guy.
• 36:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I remember picking him up for fancy purposes.
• 36:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: When he was on the dolphins, you know, kind of like one of those like, oh, this guy might be a thing.
• 36:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 36:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so he's, you know, he's had a little run here, but he's had some injury history, but you've got the relationship with the new running backs coach.
• 36:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Stutzville, Stutzville.
• 36:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he was in Miami under Michael Daniel, and so you have that history there, I think RB3's open, you know, I mean, I know a lot of people like Rochon, he had a couple nice runs yesterday, he's a good special teamer, you know, but he's also had a lot of injuries in his time here.
• 36:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you got two guys that maybe have a lot of injury history, but.
• 36:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: you know, if you're looking for an RB3, I think that the competition is now on.
• 36:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that she announced himself that like he's back, feel and healthy.
• 36:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know where, I don't know how I would stack the odds to be quite honest with you between those two because you've got kind of a disappointing season from Rochon.
• 37:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're coming off of disappointing season, then you've got this guy that you knew from back in the day.
• 37:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: coming over, you know, so you've got that outside or element here.
• 37:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I think that it's an interesting battle to keep an eye on here throughout the rest of the preseason.
• 37:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: having held something that both guys have to be where you're out here, but as soon as they sign document, I'm like, yeah, I think he made take Rojo's job because like Rochon Johnson is who he's at this point.
• 37:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know for a little while, he bears trying to make him their short yardage guy and he was okay.
• 37:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's a special team's guy.
• 37:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's fine, but you know, he does everything pretty good, but he just, you know, he's just not
• 37:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's not there's no juice right there's no exposure just you know when you watch a player's like okay, you know if you need you know three yards you may get to you know two and a half and And then you cross your finger so I just think with Akmedi got a little something else table.
• 37:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking to stat yesterday And I look at his yak and he has more yak than than the yards and I'm like took me a while like what's happening here
• 38:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is there an error and I realize, oh, the screen he caught like, you know, eight yards behind the screen and it's something all that makes sense, but yeah, he, that was a nice play, you see division, you know, I don't think in his entire career, preseason, otherwise road Joe has ever had a play like that in his career.
• 38:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think this could be your guy, if you could show you a play special team, that thing, this may be a guy that you, you lean on here and maybe Johnson is going to be into the practice squad.
• 38:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, seeing juice is one of those things, right?
• 38:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: When you go to practice, when you see the preseason, you just want to see if guys kind of move different stand out, right?
• 38:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And when a guy jumps off the screen a little bit, that's something to put in your notebook.
• 38:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what it looked like to me with Doc Medon.
• 38:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, he's got a little bit of history of being an interesting player, but sometimes your body betrays you.
• 38:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see if you can stay healthy and maybe capture that RB3 role.
• 38:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that'll be nice.
• 38:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like our RB3 doesn't have to do much, you know, if everybody's healthy, and obviously you always think Wolf guy goes down, then he's got to step up.
• 39:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: But even during the week when they're the RB3, they might have a series, you know, they might, you know, so there's that there's still opportunity there for a for a guy like that to contribute during the regular season as well.
• 39:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: So
• 39:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, what about you?
• 39:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Did you have him?
• 39:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Was that one of your two?
• 39:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I did not have him.
• 39:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's good.
• 39:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go Cain Davis receiver.
• 39:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: He has had a really nice camp so far.
• 39:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's been flashing like he's fighting for a job.
• 39:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why do he ever six if the bear's carry six?
• 39:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he's got that shot because he's not going to be to top five.
• 39:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he's fighting for a job here.
• 39:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Bitter on the NFL for a few years now had it had a little bit
• 39:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: 4 catches 88 yards y'all sort of 23-yard pump return.
• 39:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's something they can kind of give you there and and especially in as well.
• 39:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like Cain Davis what you see out of him you know the way he adjusts for the ball with its in the air.
• 39:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: He had a really nice catch there kind of a back shoulder throw from from Bayjans.
• 39:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: You adjusted well.
• 39:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's a good football player, you know, and it look, the bears now have a situation where there are few receivers fighting for that job.
• 40:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Marie Sogs and Ray Ray McCloud, Kain Davis, all these guys are like putting good stuff on tape to be, hey, we want to be, you know, why do you see for six.
• 40:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: But there's, I mean, I carry why this year for six.
• 40:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: So these guys are, again, they're fighting for a job for someone else.
• 40:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if not, they're fighting for a job in a practice squad.
• 40:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: And regardless of what happens with Davis in Chicago, he's going to be playing on someone's roster next year, whether it's Chicago, practice squad, or somewhere else's team.
• 40:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's some good film out there from Cain Davis.
• 40:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, good stuff.
• 40:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I honestly, you're kind of stepping on my just right.
• 40:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just going to do that here and then we'll back up.
• 40:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: So just right for me was the White or Severs 6 competition.
• 40:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 40:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like that.
• 40:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, if you think about it, you got Rome, Luther, Cliff Raymond, and the rookie Xavier and Thomas.
• 40:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then I think a lot of us have Jada Walker kind of penciled in to the number five.
• 40:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 40:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: So then you've got Caden Davis, he had four catches 88 yards,
• 41:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like solid football player three catches 42 yards in a touchdown.
• 41:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ray Ray McLeod just signed.
• 41:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's got the longest shots here, but like he's been a pro in the league for a few years.
• 41:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's he's made contributions, you know, he's he's played in real games.
• 41:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're playing with the Steelers for a couple of years there.
• 41:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Three, three catches 63 yards for him, and then Scotty Miller, Guy with Speed, again, also played in a lot of games.
• 41:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Three catches for 37 yards.
• 41:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's an interesting group of receivers.
• 41:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you know, there's enough there that I
• 41:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, Marisa Alexander's probably got long odds as well and he can probably store him on the practice squad.
• 41:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's probably not going to get signed away.
• 41:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Probably probably, you know, I mean, it could certainly could happen.
• 41:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Davis, you know, like set strong camp and put in a good preseason together, he might win that job.
• 42:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Miller's a got you know like there's just there's enough like these are pros these are yes they're into the bench guys but they're they're pros filling out the rest of this roster and it's kind of interesting they're pushing each other so I thought that this might be the case given all of these signings that they were pretty interesting and it's to me already like wow there's a lot of interesting guys you're kind of playing for one roster spot out.
• 42:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's kind of interesting.
• 42:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, well, let's back up to the cold bowl of porridge.
• 42:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: What do you have for that?
• 42:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's funny you have the, why do you see your competition is your just rights?
• 42:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got the left tackle competition as my cold bowl.
• 42:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: because Karan Amagaji, if that's where we're gonna pronounce it today.
• 42:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Jedrick Will is doing your neither one really stood out to me.
• 42:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I saw some people online, oh my God.
• 42:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jedrick Will's got benched, and I'm like, seeing all of the stuff like you didn't get benched, they had a rotation plan.
• 42:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look at the snap counts, one was 50, 15, three.
• 42:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was a rotation, the entire day that was the plan, but you know, you know, you know, the Twitter and social media is, oh my God, they benched them because of that plan.
• 43:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're rotating them, look at the snap counts, dumbass, that's what their plan was, let's not overreact.
• 43:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: But he wasn't good.
• 43:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Who else was not good?
• 43:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a god, he wasn't good.
• 43:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you combine the two, because I think wheels may have a little better feet when he's engaged, and when he's focused, I'm a god she may have a little have better hands.
• 43:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: But together, I think, and I shared this on social media, the winner, I think, of left tack decision in this game, it's Braxton Jones, because he didn't play, but he's looking much better option after seeing these two Jim Oaks out there.
• 43:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: uh... with share brain luster yeah like it the only thing i wrote down for cold ball was left tackle competition and yet skittin late you know so you got to hope that raxon jones you know roll in his ankle or whatever that was in practice uh... isn't going to be fine and we know the braxon jones can play football you know it and he's fine i know last year was was rough but he and clearly was a back from the injury at a whole off season
• 44:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think I feel much more comfortable in Braxton Jones, but if the choices between those two that played yesterday, and those are only two choices, there's might have to make a book.
• 44:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I think that's where that's at.
• 44:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: They both played pretty poorly.
• 44:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: So there's something to be,
• 44:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: to keep watch here.
• 44:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not I'm not worried about it because again, I think it's Braxton's job.
• 44:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it was 95% Braxton Jones from from the start gear.
• 44:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, a sign for decent money to stick around here.
• 44:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't think that that's crazy.
• 44:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a belief that he had like a commanding lead here.
• 44:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's unfortunate.
• 44:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: They got hurt again.
• 44:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And but the others, there may be a need here if the that was pretty rough tape from
• 44:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's all I had, I mean, the bears got by last year with Theo Benade for a little bit, right?
• 45:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think, and I thought it played pretty good.
• 45:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: And right tackle, yes, she went out and watched a little bit of them.
• 45:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think if it came down to it and fraction is dinged up, and then your only option was, I'm a guy as a maybe you go to Theo Benade.
• 45:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then, of course, there's the Aussie repello news depro class week, or he's way ahead of schedule.
• 45:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, I'm not a doctor.
• 45:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't try to play one on Twitter or on social media, but you know, everyone talked about it what's a year at least a year recovery time.
• 45:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's probably gonna miss the whole season.
• 45:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And now here we are.
• 45:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it wasn't just like an off-the-cuff remark, which when it first happened, like, oh, maybe Ryan Polls is just,
• 45:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: hopeful.
• 45:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ben Johnson said it again in his in his meeting in his press conference.
• 45:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's he may get him back sooner than later.
• 45:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if he comes back and he hit his rehab hard and there's really no structural damage there to get worse and he comes back.
• 45:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now he's in the mix.
• 46:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, modern medicine technology, it's come a long way.
• 46:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're not doctors.
• 46:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: We don't, you know, they give you ranges on these things, but a lot of these injuries, though, are like,
• 46:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, now like an ACL rehab is going to take this long, right?
• 46:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I remember when like Adrian Peterson towards ACL and then he came back like really free to like what how is that possible?
• 46:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, well, that's really where the recoveries are now like they're they're able to come back a little faster from that specific injury because they're so they get so much practice dealing with this right.
• 46:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Aziz Andrew is a little different.
• 46:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, you don't know.
• 46:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's a big guy.
• 46:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: He thought that that would work against him.
• 46:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe these giant limbs work in his favor.
• 46:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 46:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: It seems crazy to me though that you would start off and say, like, it's going to don't even count on him in 2026.
• 46:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like don't don't even think that he's going to be a contributor.
• 46:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then in the preseason they're like,
• 46:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we might get him back to like what I never I never saw a comment at all.
• 47:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I figured it was to be Braxton Jones this year and then maybe by the end of the season you kind of get him off the pup and you can bring him back, but it'd be great, you know, if you I'm sure I'll start on pup, you know, I know that's just to be on the safe side, but
• 47:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?
• 47:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: That'll be great for the bears that get him back.
• 47:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: He had some nice film last year, a little rough early.
• 47:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was a better past-blocker, the rum blocker.
• 47:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: But he closed the year pretty good.
• 47:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm excited to see his growth.
• 47:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we'll say, but like we said, left tackle competitions, at least I'm going to keep an eye on and don't be shocked if something out of left field happens.
• 47:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: If Brexit can't get back on the field.
• 47:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: So all right, you're just right where do you want to go with that?
• 47:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just, right, so I'm watching the trenches, right?
• 47:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to watch left tackle a little bit.
• 47:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to rewatch.
• 47:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to watch the other guys playing there.
• 47:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm the initial watch.
• 47:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't notice Logan Jones at all.
• 47:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, nothing he did, I'm like, you know, and that's usually good, good sign.
• 48:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you don't notice your old lineman, that's fine.
• 48:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: On the rewatch again, I'm watching a play.
• 48:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: he played pretty good you know I mean he played like you know you wouldn't think he's rookie out there.
• 48:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: He seemed to have a good commandal was going on he understood his assignment you know he was pretty good at the point of attack he moved pretty well good in the second level was out there on those screenplays he's not starting this year Garrett Bradburg's
• 48:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he did a pretty good job.
• 48:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he did what you want to see out of him when he was in there and he figured he had to pretty much the whole first half.
• 48:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I like Logan Jones.
• 48:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was excited to see him play and excited that he didn't do anything where I would think, oh, he just was good, solid, start to finish.
• 48:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, they, they had a extended sideline shot of Bradbury and Tony, and I don't really know what Gary Bradbury looks like without uniform and helmet on.
• 49:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it didn't like instantly occur to me who they were like talking about and referring to.
• 49:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, is that like an assistant online coach who is that guy?
• 49:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, he's not that old.
• 49:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's not that old.
• 49:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, he's not, but like, that's why he's assistant, oh, you know, like a younger guy getting into the game.
• 49:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: But like, like, Tony, like, you know what he looks like.
• 49:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's bigger than Bradbury.
• 49:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Again, this is like a comment of a lot of centers or the smallest offensive women.
• 49:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then, and then he was standing next to Ozzy.
• 49:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that he's standing next to us.
• 49:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the pillow who's like, mom's great.
• 49:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 49:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he already makes like, Tony looked kind of small and Tony was making Bradbury look small.
• 49:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh, that's Brad, but I didn't even know what he looks like.
• 49:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I thought that was going to be funny.
• 49:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I didn't want to do the Logan Jones bit.
• 49:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I figured I'd let you talk about him where we just, you know, but yeah, you know, he looked good.
• 49:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, no Logan Jones from you, no Tory Taylor from you.
• 49:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he had a hockey game.
• 49:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I tell you what, man, he landed that punt at the one.
• 49:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that guy totally messed it up.
• 49:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he dove in the inzone to try to knock it back.
• 50:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Taylor's like, come on.
• 50:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: What are you doing?
• 50:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I actually had it that perfectly.
• 50:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, someone that someone mentioned like, oh, yeah, Taylor finally had a great pot and I was like, okay, like, first of all, I did a great last year.
• 50:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: His open field planning was great last year.
• 50:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And honestly, that pot yesterday wasn't that great.
• 50:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, he got to get the coverage.
• 50:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, that was more of my issue with that one.
• 50:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the problem was that the short area funding and the pins, they weren't, they haven't been there yet.
• 50:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was one, that was there.
• 50:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: So a better gunner is going to know where he's at.
• 50:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to either let that bounce or he's going to be able to down that there right there at the one.
• 50:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: So hopefully he's calibrating in.
• 50:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just needed a better snapper.
• 50:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that's what we've learned.
• 50:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's what it was.
• 50:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, maybe that's never to unlock him.
• 50:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, all right, we got Punner Talk in.
• 50:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're officially back.
• 50:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Preseason Punner Talk.
• 51:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got it here at Bernabounds.
• 51:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
• 51:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got anything coming up on the site or anything that's want to talk about?
• 51:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, the bears are off today.
• 51:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of quiet.
• 51:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's a couple of things up there now.
• 51:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: So just make sure you guys check out when he's sitting.
• 51:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Great iron.
• 51:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, second sitting, great iron.
• 51:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: We got a Taylor Dowl's got to make him master's coming.
• 51:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think tomorrow, where she's interviewing Jordan Van Nberg's high school coach.
• 51:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's going to be fun to kind of hear his perspective.
• 51:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And what he saw at his old player there.
• 51:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: that's good stuff.
• 51:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had an article drop last week about some old artwork that I came across from the 40s, 50s, these cool little comic inserts and a couple of people that might want to know, the Stu Merrill and Lou Merrill, Lou Merrill ran the programs for 20 years or so, little story about them, mostly just documenting and cataloging all these cool comics, of all the great players from back in the day, from that.
• 51:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Dynastic era of the bears and the forties and so it's really kind of a cool project to present to everybody.
• 52:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: So if you haven't checked that out, you know, in your issue and that stuff, go to the site find that out.
• 52:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, we're just keep doing these things right back.
• 52:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're back.
• 52:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: These and yeah, preseason bears is back and we're back for those back, baby.
• 52:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
• 52:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, guys.
• 52:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, until next time, bear down.