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Inside The Birds Week 3 Pregame Show With Greg Cosell: Philadelphia Eagles Vs. Los Angeles Rams · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Inside the Birds pregame show.
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  I'm Jeff Mosher alongside Adam Kaplan and with us as
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  always to provide the most thorough preview of an Eagles
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  game is Greg Cosell. He's the star of Inside the Tape.
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  With Greg Cosell on Inside the Birds and we are
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  gonna preview what I think is the best matchup of
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  the weekend. It's a very interesting slate of NFL games.
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  The Monday night game is fantastic, but for Sunday games,
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  Eagles Rams is where it's at, and it will be
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  at the Link. It is a rematch for the Eagles
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  and Rams because they played both in the regular season
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  last year and in the playoffs in both were memorable
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  games for different reasons. And it is also a matchup
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  fellas of two two and ohero teams. The Rams off
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  to a good start with a win over the Texans
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  fourteen to nine and the opener, and then they went
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  and beat the Tennessee Titans last week thirty three, nineteen
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  and as we all know, the Eagles are also two
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  and ozer with wins over the Cowboys twenty four to
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  twenty and the Chiefs twenty to seventeen. So this is
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  a fantastic game. And Adam, the one thing that I
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  just in doing the NFL preview show that I do
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  on our platform, there are so many freaking injuries already
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  by week three, I mean quarterbacks, there's like five quarterbacks
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  who are out, there's linemen who are out. These teams
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  at least we'll start with the Eagles much much healthier.
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  And obviously Dallas Goddard looks like he was definitely gonna
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  play and that's great for the y.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's clear. It was clear Friday.
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  Speaker 3: That is huge because he didn't do anything last week
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  other than rehab that knee. The fact that he was
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  back now he took the starters reps Friday, so that's
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  when you knew it. And they didn't give Hi a
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  game status desigination, so that means he's playing less. Something
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  happened in pregame, so getting him back. We talked about
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  the issue at blocking with Calcaterra and lot who only
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  played six snaps pretty much as Sirianni talked about as
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  a fullback. So they off the worry about that. Now
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  it's a big deal, man, with this quick front and
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  we'll get in with Greg about their defensive front. But
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  this is a big deal, no question.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And Greg, you wonder what I wonder about Goddard coming back, Well,
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  two things. One that we'll get into a little later.
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  Just he's going to help the passing offense and just
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  the overall offense. But in his absence, I'm curious to
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  see whose role does Kylon Granson not play nearly as much,
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  or does Cam lat To get no role, or do
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  you start to see Cam lat two as a fullback
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  get a little bit more involved in the offense.
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  Speaker 4: I mean that speculation. I think the one thing we
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  know for sure is that Dallas Goddard can block defensive
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  ends in the run game, and I think that's been
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  a little bit of an issue through the first two games.
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  You know, remember talking to Ross Tucker this week a
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  matter of fact, and it wasn't about Goddard. It was
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  another tight end, but I can't remember who it was.
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  And Ross was saying that people just don't realize how
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  important a tight end that can block an edge player,
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  whether it's a d end in the case of the
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  Rams or an outside linebacker on a five to two front,
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  is how important that is to a run game. If
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  he can block them one on one, that gives you
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  so many more things you can do in your run
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  game as far as you know, working up to the
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  next level and getting second level players block, even getting
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  third level players blocked. So to me, yes, I mean, obviously,
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  based on the first two games, we don't really are
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  I don't anyway. I'm just being honest. I don't have
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  a great sense of what the Eagles pass game will
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  look like this week. But the run game, for sure,
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  we know is a foundation, and he changes the run
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  game meaningfully. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Greg, when you realize, do you know, when
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  you realize the most how how well you have it
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  when you have a tight end who can block an
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  edge defender is when he's out and.
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  Speaker 2: You're yeah, yeah, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: That started pretty last week.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I mean it's no knock on Ka Katerra.
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  Ka Katerra grew up in the game as a receiver,
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  and you know, and that's what he was in Oklahoma.
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  That's what he was when he came back and played
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  at SMU. I'm sure when the Eagles drafted him, that's
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  what they saw him as. But you know, things change
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  and you have to try to do what you're asked
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  to do, but that's just not his forte all right.
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  Speaker 1: As for other Eagles injuries, Will Shipley remained out with
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  the oblique or broken rib, whatever you want to call it. Well,
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  we will see if that leads to anything more for
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  now that this will be his second game for Tank Bigsby,
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  we'll see. And then questionable Tanner McKee with the right
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  thumb as he continues to come back from that fracture.
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  That's the best designation that he's questionable is good and
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  we'll see if he is the number two quarterback for
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  the game. Other than that, very healthy. They had a
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  little scare I guess with Byron Young throughout the week
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  a lacerated forehead, so you can put that on the
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  new injury thing. Listen, designations that I'd never seen before.
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  Thankfully he's okay and then everything else pretty good to
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  go at him. This is a good healthy team right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Jalen Carter, Remember we Jeff when Carter was drafted,
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  we talked about the shoulder issues he had at Georgia
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  and something to keep an eye on the forehead laceration.
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  Typically just from looking into these things, I've actually seen
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  this before, but it'll say lasceration.
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  Speaker 2: They usually don't say where it is.
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  Speaker 3: Typically it comes when someone grabs your face mask and
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  it rips and it you have like a big cut
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  like that could happen. But again, he's been cleared, shimpley.
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  Here's the positive thing. Though he did work this week.
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  That's good. That's really a good sign. It potentially could
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  be back the next week. And we'll talk about if
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  he gets cleared for the pregame next week.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, what's is how are they gonna work all these
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  backs in that that's the challenge.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, So let's talk about the Rams
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  and their injury situation. Their offensive line has been a
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  little bit beat up already earlier.
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  Speaker 4: In the year.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I know Steve Avla is their left guard and
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  he is is it doubtful, Adam.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's He didn't do anything this week. He's not
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  expected to play. Brandon Fisk did get some work on
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  on Friday. He's more of a see what happens to
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  a warm ups guy that these are bleaks man, you know, Jeff,
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  because you're a big baseball guy. If you're a picture
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  has in a bleaker out two months or six weeks.
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  Oh yeah, and.
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  Speaker 2: And Fisk got hurt. Give the guy credit.
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  Speaker 3: He tried to play through it, but he was limited
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  to thirteen snaps or something. Last week he got hurt
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  in pregame warm ups and Kobe Parkinson, who would be
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  their why tight end? You that he's one of the
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  highest paid backup tight ends in the NFL. He's paid
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  a lot to block, and he's he missed last week's game.
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  Speaker 2: With a shoulder issue. He did get some work in
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  a matter off. Can he take contact or not?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 1: So it sounds like they're pretty good. We'll see if
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  Fisk makes it out on the field. And Avila is
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  their left guard, so if he's out, Greg, is it?
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  Is it Adam? Is it the d ditch guy who
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  fills in at left guard?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: He started last week. Do you remember him at all
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  from comfege?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: I do not.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think I did him, and I didn't study
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  him last week. I can't. I don't really have you
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  know any comment on him.
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  Speaker 2: Jeff, real quick.
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  Speaker 3: They've done a phenomenal job of putting these guys in there,
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  not always offense at whatever position. It's the kid bo
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  Limmer last season, right, Yeah, yeah, it was good last season,
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  but he came out of nowhere. Eric Jackson, who was
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  an undrafted free agent, just got paid big time, Jeff.
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  So they do a great job here of developing guys.
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  And the other buyer and young who will talk about later.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, they draft and develop as well as any
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  team in the NFL. And obviously this guy's not injured.
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  But there was a scare for Matthew Stafford earlier in
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  training camp because of his back injury that just wasn't
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  seemingly cooperating. But after two weeks, Greg, I'm sure you'll
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  you'll tell us this. He looks pretty good, doesn't he
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  look like pretty good? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's It's it's pretty remarkable the way the guy
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  can keep playing at his age. I mean, he's still
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  a really really good player.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And now he's got DeVante Adams on his side,
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  so makes a big difference. And this is again, I
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  think this is a really awesome matchup to two to
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  zero teams, two powerhouses, two teams that know each other.
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  And we will see in the Eagle side as we
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  go through it if history will repeat for the Eagles.
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  Before we get into Eagles taking on, we'll go with
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  Eagles offense first against the Rams defense. Let me pause
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  take a look. Because so many people want to talk
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  about the Eagles offense and even though we went through
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  it on a tape and we discussed it. I think
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  that there is an expectation and I understand this, that
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  the Eagles will be able to control, they will get
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  their mojo back on the ground because of what Saquon
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  Barkley did to the Rams last year. So I'll ask
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  I'll start with you, Adam, and I'll get Greg from
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  a tape breakdown standpoint. But there's kind of been this
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  sentiment that the Egles are gonna come out thrown. These
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  are and they just haven't been able to do it.
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  Do you think this is a come out running because
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  they've done it really well in the past.
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  Speaker 2: They could do either.
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  Speaker 3: But to me, it's not so much how much they throw,
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  it's how they do it or how many times.
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  Speaker 2: It's how they do it. I expect them to be aggressive.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, basically, you look at this cornerback group and
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  I can't wait to get Greg's breakdown of Kobe Durant
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  and the other guys who are going to play a killa.
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  Weatherspoon's been around a long time, if I'm not mistake.
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  He started in the Super Bowl for the Niners many
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  years ago. He says he's a journeyman now he's thirty.
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  He's not playing a broke's collarbone. But they just don't
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  have depth of corner like this is when you throw it, Jeff,
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  do you move this along?
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  Speaker 2: They should be more successful. I don't see how they're not.
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  Speaker 1: That is true. They should be more successful. We'll see.
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  We'll talk about their what the Rams will do defensively,
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  that might differ. But staying on the Barkley thing, Greg
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  a lot. You know, a lot is made about the
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  Rams being light front. They have a light front. They
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  don't have a lot of big, heavy run stuffing guys.
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  And you know, just to reiterate the stats, last year,
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  Saint Kwon bar twenty six carries for two hundred and
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  fifty five yards and two touchdowns in Week eleven and
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  then in the playoffs twenty six more carries for two
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  hundred and five yards and two more touchdowns. Just unbelievable.
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  How he tore up the Rams last year.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and he had the big runs. I mean, that's
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  the key, which we've talked about that that's what creates
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  the yards. And obviously they count, but you know, they
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  really they could not stop the run game, and that's
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  got to be number one. And you know fit with
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  fists being out all It's funny you say that the
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  player who probably play the majority of the snaps in
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  his place, if he can't play meaningful snaps, maybe he's
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  a only playing in passing situation. You know, we don't
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  know this, but poona Ford is probably a better run
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  defender than Fisk, and he'll get the majority of the snaps,
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  certainly in your base defense. And he's he's he's actually
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  a good run defender. So we'll see. But I think
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  every team not I think we know every team in
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  playing the Eagles with the idea that it all starts
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  with the run game, and you have to you know,
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  that's that's where it begins.
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  Speaker 1: Do you believe that there's something to the Rams being
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  light upfront and that is their issue? Parkly?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 4: Sure, I mean you're dealing with an offensive line that
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  is you know, obviously Steen is there in place of Becton,
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  So I don't know. If they're still the heaviest in
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  the league five across, they're certainly going to be close
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  to that. It's a very big, strong offensive line, and
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  my Alatta and Dickerson are really strong run blockers. They
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  move people, you know, so yes, it's there is a
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  factor there. I mean, players like Fisk. While he's strong
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  for his size, no question, he's not a weak player,
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  but you know he's he's not three hundred and twenty pounds,
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  So yes, that does mean something.
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  Speaker 1: And if I recall correctly, Fellas, it was setting the
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  edge was a difficult issue for them last year. Even
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  their corner had a tough time their linebackers coming down
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  and scrape. I just Barkley was able to break a
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  few by getting to the outside and then just shifting
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  into another level. And I forgot to mention because he's
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  already out for the year, so he's not on the
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  injury report. They lost their cornerback, Akilo Witherspoon. Sorry, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So that's that's got to be number one. We'll see
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  how they choose to to go about doing it tactically.
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  You know, their linebackers are are all our Spates and
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  and Landman net Landman they brought in from I believe Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a pretty.
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  Speaker 4: Good player and he's played well through two games, so
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  it's it's a little bit different. Grew Spas played a
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  lot toward the end of last year. He became a
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  starter and he's he's a pretty solid player. He's not
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  overly big either, by the way, So you know, it
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  is a lighter unit. It's a fast unit, but it's
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  a lighter unit. So, uh, you know they're gonna That's
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  that's why it'll be interesting from a tactical perspective because
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  they're not just gonna line up and play. I mean, obviously,
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  when you're a defensive line there are times you've just
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  got to win one on one matchups, obviously, but they're
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  not just gonna line up and say, Okay, we're gonna
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  win one on one matchups all game all that's They're
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  not just gonna play that way.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess what I would like to know is, Greg,
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  how do you see what Chris Shula does defensively and
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  that compare to say, what you know Steve Spags will
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  do or what uh you know in the first week
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  the Cowboys?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: By am I forgetting the Cowboys coordinator? Who's the Cowboys
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  defensive coordinator? Enemies to Yeah, where does Sula fall between
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  those guys as far as the zone and cover or
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  rush and blitz? What do you what do you see
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  on that They're.
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  Speaker 4: Not a heavy, heavy blitz team because they brush the
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  quarterback really well with their down four. But of course
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  that counts Fisk. Fisk. You know, this is a team
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  that if you get if they get the offense in
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  pure past situations, they are a heavy stunt team and
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  they're really really good at it. But Fisk is a
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  significant part of that because he's a very athletic guy
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  with some bend ins and flexibility, and he's a very
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  explosive athlete. So if he's not there, I don't know.
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  If Ford stays in, it might be Murchison, who's been
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  around the league a little bit, who played meaningful snaps
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  last week. So now you're we don't know the answer
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  to this, guys. You know, I wish I did. But
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  if it's not Fisk when they're in their pure pass situation,
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  you know, I don't know if you'll see as much
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  of the the loaded fronts and the stunting that we're
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  used to seeing. You just don't know the answer to that.
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  You know, they have Lake, who's a really, really good player,
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  A really good player, Yeah yeah, in some way he's
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  similar to a player they just played against last week.
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  And Chamari Connor, a guy that is sort of a Nickel,
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  but he can play in the box as well, he
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  can play on the back end. He can play anywhere,
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  and he's a really really good football player, and he
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  gets involved. There's a physical element to him, so he
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  does get involved in the run game. So you know,
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  Quentin Lake's a really really good player. Cameron Kitchens is
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  the second year safety from the University of Miami and
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  he's another physical guy. So it'll be interesting if the
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  Eagles feel that they can get over the top somewhere
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  along the line in this game. Because Kitchens is is
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  he's really a downhill thumper. That's the way he would
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  like to play. So I think there'll be opportunities in
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  the pass game. The question is, you know, what's it
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  going to look like? You know, I don't feel real
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  comfortable knowing what their past game is going to look like.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I agree with Greg though, this is situation.
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  If they pass it, if they decide they're going to do,
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  you never really truly know. But if they do, they
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  gotta be more successful. Well, get to the quarnerback group
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  and Cam curl was the guy, Greg that you loved with.
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  Speaker 4: The players too, Yeah, the corner position, not at the
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  safety position. I think they have three good players in Lake,
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  who's kind of a hybrid nickel safety box. You know,
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  he does everything. I think Curl is a good player,
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  and Kitchens is good for you know, he's a good
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  player too. The question is at the corner position.
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  Speaker 2: And let's go there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So with witherspooning out Adam, who is their first
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  man up?
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's gonna be the five dollars question because they
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  just they're kind of running out of player.
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  Speaker 2: So if Kobe Durant's going to be one of.
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  Speaker 3: Them, Darius Williams, who won't go away, he's still playing.
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  He was an original ram that signed for big money
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  with Baltimore and Jacksonville, but he's back.
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  Speaker 4: Emmanuel Forbes, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the starter.
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  Speaker 3: That's what we're gonna get to because we know what
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  aj Brown's done against him. It's those three, Jeff, that's
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  pretty much that they have left.
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  Speaker 4: That's who they have.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's why I think advantage Eagles here, Jeff. Again,
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  they don't have to throw forty times, but when they
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  do it, they've got to be more successful.
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  Speaker 1: Gregor's Forbes played a whole lot this year of you.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He started.
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  Speaker 4: He plays thirty five forty snaps a game. Absolutely, you know,
• 18:18
  it's funny, Jeff. The first game I watched the Saints
• 18:21
  week the Rams week one. You know, I'm looking and
• 18:24
  I'm going, you know, who's that guy? You know right away?
• 18:26
  You know, because you know, normally I notice the guys
• 18:30
  as I'm watching. I don't necessarily look at the play
• 18:33
  by play, you know, I just start watching and I
• 18:35
  can see the way our system set up and lists
• 18:38
  all the players playing on each play, and I'm like, Forbes,
• 18:41
  it's Emmanuel Forbes, you know, Yeah, so he's he's been
• 18:45
  playing meaningful snaps here. He plays thirty five forty snaps
• 18:50
  a game.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean the fact that he made the
• 18:53
  team because he was he was now he was released
• 18:56
  by Washington. Didn't he go somewhere in between Adam or
• 18:59
  did he go straight?
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: He claimed off wears, but I'll double check that one.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Well either way, I mean, like, this is a guy
• 19:04
  who could not hold on to his job after two
• 19:06
  years in Washington, being a first round pick. So he
• 19:08
  made the Rams. They must have seen something. I know
• 19:09
  that they're not overly deep at corner, but very few
• 19:12
  teams are.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: He's starting He started week one, so he's one of
• 19:15
  their starting corners.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, because I mean last week, this is
• 19:18
  the game in which Witherspoon got hurt. He only played
• 19:21
  sixteen snaps, but Forbes and Witherspoon started on the out
• 19:24
  on the outside for the Rams and then Duran. Obviously
• 19:28
  he was part of that rotation even before Witherspoon got hurt.
• 19:32
  But then when Witherspoon got hurt, Williams played significant snaps.
• 19:35
  But it's a rotation. They they'll play Williams, Duran, and Forbes,
• 19:39
  they'll get they all get snaps.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Question on Forbes on the Greg, I just want to
• 19:43
  ask you about Forbes because everybody knows if you follow us.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: I haven't noticed him in a negative way through two games.
• 19:50
  I mean, well you go, my god, you know yeah, yeah,
• 19:53
  I haven't known no, but the.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Bodies he still look does he still look really thin
• 19:56
  because that.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: He might have gained a few pounds. But he's then
• 20:00
  the other guy who should be mentioned on this Rams defense.
• 20:02
  He's their dying player, and that's McCullough. And he's also
• 20:05
  a really good player, but he plays in dying, so
• 20:08
  he's not going to play Jalen mccull is not going
• 20:10
  to play every snap, but he's a really good player.
• 20:13
  They're a team that plays normally a very high percentage
• 20:16
  of dime, although they did not last week if memory
• 20:19
  serves me, Yeah they did. They did. They played twenty
• 20:21
  four snaps in dime last week. So they normally play
• 20:25
  depending on the opponent. Now, we'll see what the Eagles
• 20:28
  do as far as their personnel. But in a you know,
• 20:31
  normally when teams do play a lot of eleven, the
• 20:34
  Rams are a dying team. They'll play twenty five to
• 20:38
  thirty percent dying because mccull is a really good player,
• 20:40
  another guy that can line up in multiple spots.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: But he's a safety by trade, is he not?
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Well, this will be a game where the Frady's. You know,
• 20:51
  past performance is not necessarily an indicator of future success.
• 20:55
  I mean, you have Barkley, who tore up the Rams
• 20:58
  you had last year. You have aj Around who tore
• 21:00
  up Emmanuel Forbes a couple of times back when he
• 21:03
  was with Washington. I know that that's sort of the
• 21:05
  big storyline is can these guys capitalize on the matchups
• 21:08
  that they have won in the past. What I wonder
• 21:11
  also Greg with I know Jared Verse, he's got off
• 21:14
  to a good start. He's got three quarterback hits, and
• 21:16
  I think Byron Young has three sacks already. To me,
• 21:20
  it's do these guys come out of the gate. They're
• 21:23
  gonna be fired up. This is gonna be an emotional game.
• 21:26
  We always talk about this. Rushing Jalen Hurts isn't as
• 21:32
  maybe big as how you rush Jalen Hurts. If you
• 21:35
  get inside and leave an outside alley your toast, if
• 21:38
  you can stunt or twitter you rush wide and keep
• 21:41
  them in the pocket and make him make a throw
• 21:44
  or push the lineman back into him, is when you succeed.
• 21:47
  And sometimes it feels like teams forget that in the
• 21:50
  first quarter and then they make the adjustment, sort of
• 21:52
  like the Cowboys in Week one. I'm very curious to
• 21:55
  see how they decide to come after and pressure Jalen Hurts.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, just looking back, unrelated to that, but
• 22:01
  looking back at that game in the playoff game, Okay,
• 22:05
  one of the things, and we talked about this that
• 22:06
  the Eagles haven't done much of this through two games,
• 22:09
  but they used a ton of no huddle in that
• 22:11
  playoff game, and it's a great move against the Rams
• 22:15
  defensive front because they really don't like to take Verse,
• 22:18
  Turner and Young off the field. Now, we don't know
• 22:22
  about Fisk, so we'll leave that alone for the moment,
• 22:25
  but you know, they really don't like to take those
• 22:27
  guys off the field. So if you go no huddle
• 22:30
  and you start to wear them at a little bit,
• 22:31
  and particularly if you're can have some success running the ball,
• 22:34
  do we think there's going to be a sixty run
• 22:36
  and a seventy yard round? The percentage of that is
• 22:39
  not likely. Of course it could happen, but it's not likely.
• 22:45
  You know. I think maybe is this the week you
• 22:48
  see no huddle, you know, just which was very effective
• 22:51
  in that playoff game.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: And on that note, getting Dallas Gotter back guys I
• 22:57
  think will be a good for just talked about how
• 23:00
  it would be good for the run game, could be
• 23:02
  good for the pass game. He's all of those guys that,
• 23:05
  you know, especially if they're playing too deep, which the
• 23:07
  Eagles have seen a lot, especially on first and second down,
• 23:10
  who can make some space in zones? And Greg I
• 23:12
  also wonder are the Egles not running RPOs as much lately?
• 23:16
  Has that not been a big part of their.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: You know, I don't work seeing them as much. I mean,
• 23:20
  I'm not charting everyone, but I don't recall it, you know.
• 23:23
  So I mean for whatever it is in the Eagles offense,
• 23:26
  you know, particularly the pass game element. Yeah, I'm just
• 23:30
  you know, I'm like we spoke about earlier in the
• 23:33
  week when we evaluated just the Eagles game. I'm not
• 23:36
  sure what to make of their pass game right now.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Jeff one thing of Goddard though, and hurts together they
• 23:43
  I know it wasn't for a lot of arts, but
• 23:45
  he caught seven passes week one. Their chemistry for the
• 23:47
  first time I've watched them together in training camp with phenomenal.
• 23:51
  And I know Jalen gets criticized for not throwing over
• 23:54
  the middle, but I could tell you I saw plenty
• 23:57
  of throws inside the numbers, not like in the middle,
• 24:01
  but some inside the numbers in training camp.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: So I'm really interested.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: I know it's only been two games, got it didn't
• 24:06
  play in the second one. Let's see getting him back.
• 24:08
  You're you're all the right path, Goddard. He he can
• 24:11
  help him tremendously in this game, in the passing, the run.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Game, led the catches and yards in the playoffs. People
• 24:16
  forget that, you know.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: You know, and I think, I think besides Barkley, the
• 24:19
  other thing to remember is Hurts in that playoff game. Hey,
• 24:21
  he had a forty four yard touchdown run right and
• 24:24
  that you know that ended the first possession. And I
• 24:28
  remember the play. I can see it in my mind.
• 24:30
  May a lot of pull. He was the rapper and
• 24:33
  he had no one to block, right, So I mean
• 24:35
  it was too easy. So you know, not only did
• 24:37
  Barkley you know, have a big game, but you know
• 24:40
  the Hurts run game factor. We keep talking about that.
• 24:43
  It's so big. It is so big, absolutely all right.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: So that is a look at the Eagles offense against
• 24:50
  the Rams defense. Let's go talk about the Rams offense
• 24:54
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• 27:31
  right this Eagles defense, They have been really impressive through
• 27:36
  the first two weeks. But let's really examine the match
• 27:39
  up here, because the Rams have two very good wide
• 27:42
  receivers everybody know this, and Puku Nakua and of course
• 27:45
  DeVante Adams and Greg. I sort of feel like this
• 27:48
  is more like the Week one preview where you have
• 27:51
  George Pickens an X, a natural X like DeVonta Adams
• 27:54
  is and then a move z in Lamb who gave
• 27:57
  a lot of problems for a Dorri. And you're probably
• 27:59
  gonna see similar matchups with Puka Nakua, who is also
• 28:02
  a guy who lines up everywhere, moves around reduced splits,
• 28:07
  and I have to think that there's going to be
• 28:09
  an concerted effort to get him on a Dori Jackson.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Adams does not move anywhere near as
• 28:17
  much as Nikou and Nico, and this is a heavy,
• 28:19
  heavy pre snap motion team. But look, Vic, you know, Vic,
• 28:25
  seen this. Keep one thing in mind, you know, if
• 28:27
  you go back to the playoff game last year, I
• 28:30
  mean that was a very intriguing game. It was in
• 28:32
  some ways more like the game they just played against
• 28:34
  the Chiefs. I mean they they played a ton of
• 28:38
  cover one that was the most played coverage versus the
• 28:40
  Rams in that playoff game. Now, obviously they were significant
• 28:43
  snaps of zone as well, but they played far more
• 28:47
  single high than too high against the Rams. They started
• 28:50
  to blitz a lot as the game progressed. You know,
• 28:54
  I remember, I can see it in my mind that
• 28:56
  they they in the fourth quarter, they were coming and
• 29:00
  they were man blitzes with cover one behind it. So again,
• 29:02
  you never know with Vic. You know, to try to
• 29:05
  predict what he's going to do is a waste of
• 29:07
  time or less a showing that everybody who just assumes, oh,
• 29:10
  for a man runs quarter structure, that's not what he
• 29:14
  did against the Rams in the playoff game. So because
• 29:17
  he did that in the playoff game, who knows, Maybe
• 29:19
  this game is a fore man rush and a quarter structure.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: And what's eleven times last week? Who thought the right?
• 29:25
  I didn't see that coming.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: But you're playing against a Rams team that's among the
• 29:28
  highest percentage precin movement team in the league. Their ground
• 29:32
  game is important to them, but it's more sustaining than explosive.
• 29:36
  But you know, now you have Adams, who is just
• 29:39
  a veteran who knows how to work against zone and
• 29:42
  find open voyage and soft spots and zones. And you've
• 29:45
  got Nakua, who is as good a run after catch
• 29:49
  receiver as there is in the league with his size, competitiveness, physicality,
• 29:54
  and he's the movement guy. So it'll be really interesting.
• 29:58
  You know, I don't think the Eagles this is just
• 30:04
  a guess. You know, I don't know if the Eagles
• 30:07
  will match up Mitchell on Adams. Okay, last week, and
• 30:12
  I think we mentioned that earlier in the week, the
• 30:14
  Titans matched up Sneaed on Adams. I said, Williams, pardon me, Adams,
• 30:18
  they'll match up. They matched up Snead with Jerry Sneid
• 30:21
  on Adams, and I don't know if the Eagles will
• 30:24
  do that with Mitchell. Maybe they'll just play sides and
• 30:27
  live with the fact that there's a lot of motion.
• 30:29
  And you know, if Adams is on Jackson, you know
• 30:35
  you got look, if he's You're starting corner, you gotta
• 30:37
  live with. I mean, you can't expect that the ball
• 30:40
  is never going to be thrown to Jackson.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I feel like with Vic we do
• 30:45
  typically see more zone. You bring up a great point
• 30:48
  on the rams let, but against teams that move as
• 30:50
  much as they with pre SAT motion. Isn't it easier
• 30:53
  to kind of sit in your zone and let guys,
• 30:56
  you know, work off of each other instead of trying
• 30:57
  to follow everybody around right right right?
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: You're well, yeah, you don't want to do that. That
• 31:02
  that's the thing, you know. That's why teams usually don't
• 31:04
  match up to motion guys because they move, and then
• 31:10
  you know, that affects the rest of your you know,
• 31:12
  people just assume, well, why don't you just you know,
• 31:13
  put Well, if you put a guy on him, then
• 31:15
  you have to put people on other people too, you know,
• 31:18
  so it's not just one thing, you know. Yep.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Hey, Adam Trek makes a great point. I would not
• 31:24
  be surprised if the conversation between less Need and McVeigh
• 31:28
  after that Eagles loss and going into the off season
• 31:31
  was we really need a guy opposite Nikulah who can
• 31:35
  beat man. If teams want to play single coverage right
• 31:38
  one high and throw blitzer at us. We can't get
• 31:41
  by on with Cooper Cup anymore and Nicoulah because there
• 31:44
  are two those guys are zone. But we need a
• 31:46
  man beat someone who.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: You say that so just to jump in that's what
• 31:50
  happened against the Titans last week in a very close game.
• 31:53
  By the way that that was at the end of
• 31:55
  the third quarter was a super close game, and then
• 31:58
  Adams ran some great rounde against Snead later in the
• 32:01
  game and beat them. And Snead is a really good corner.
• 32:05
  So you know, look, we know McVeigh is really good
• 32:10
  at scheme design, the way they use motion, the way
• 32:15
  they expand zone coverage to create voids, that's what they
• 32:18
  do exceptionally well. But at some point you want to
• 32:21
  be able to win versus man coverage. And as good
• 32:24
  as Nikoua is and he's really good, he's not really
• 32:27
  a true X kind of guy.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: No, that's why they move them. That's why they reduce them.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't really use him that way because that's
• 32:34
  not who he is. You know. It's funny we've talked
• 32:36
  about this is just a general statement. People think that
• 32:39
  players who are really good in the NFL means that
• 32:42
  they have no weaknesses. They're just great. So if you
• 32:44
  say that a guy is really good at something but
• 32:47
  maybe not so great at and other people think, well,
• 32:49
  you don't know what you're talking about, that's not true.
• 32:51
  You know, you talk to coaches as you guys do.
• 32:54
  Every player has something they're not great at, even the
• 32:57
  great players. And the COUPA is a great player for
• 33:01
  what he does. He may do as well or better
• 33:03
  than anybody in the league, but he's not a true
• 33:06
  win on the outside boundary X receiver, right. You know
• 33:10
  that by the way, they told you that that's what
• 33:13
  they signed out.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: No, No, that's why they were I.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: Guess that they signed Adams.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: You know, Jeff and I have talked about Nikob being
• 33:19
  a reduced player because I know from going to their
• 33:22
  training camp there's a reason why they you'll see him
• 33:24
  kind of like out here that all of a sudden
• 33:26
  he creeps back inside. And we talked to d flipp
• 33:29
  about that about why you reduce players. It helps him
• 33:32
  get open, right, because you don't think they could win
• 33:34
  as a true.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: X or an outside receiver.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just great. It's great coaching. And look, I
• 33:39
  would also argue this, I don't think the Kobe half
• 33:42
  the player was with other teams.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: I don't think they would not know how to use them.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: Well, we don't, I understand typothetical. Well, the point being
• 33:50
  is he's used exactly the way to maximize what he is.
• 33:54
  We don't know if other teams would do that or not.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: But I don't know if they would know it. But
• 33:58
  but that's what it's like.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Greg, I saw Cooper Coup at the Senior ball
• 34:02
  in seventeen. I was like, Wow, this guy's a pretty
• 34:04
  good player, right, and he was phenomenal in the beginning.
• 34:07
  But when I went out to because I didn't understand
• 34:09
  what they were doing reducing him like that, they did
• 34:12
  it immediately when he got there, Right, you have you
• 34:15
  have to.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: It's like when.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: When it's a little bit extreme, when Chip Kelly move
• 34:19
  Jordan Matthews from the outside to the inside.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: He knew he could have went on.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: The outside, right, coach, Yeah, yeah, I.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: Don't know what he is. You have to have a plan.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: We always talk about this, right, Right, you take this player,
• 34:29
  you have to have a plan for him and try
• 34:31
  to execute it the best you can within the framework
• 34:34
  of your plan. Yeh, I may not always work.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: You know, we'll see what they do. You know, they've
• 34:41
  been playing a lot. You know. The change that they've
• 34:44
  made this year too, is they play a lot more
• 34:46
  on a twelve personnel that for years, as you guys know,
• 34:49
  the Rams were one of the highest percentage eleven personnel
• 34:52
  teams in the league. I go back two three years,
• 34:54
  they were ninety percent eleven personnel. Some years they were
• 34:57
  over ninety percent. Now they're playing much more out of
• 35:00
  twelve personnel, which I don't know is a function, whether
• 35:04
  it's a function the fact that they like their tight
• 35:06
  ends or if they don't feel like they have a
• 35:07
  really quality third wide out that they feel really comfortable with.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: What you on that? What are your thoughts on Jordan Whittington,
• 35:14
  who is basically their third receiver.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: You know, I did not get a chance to do
• 35:20
  him coming out of Texas, so I've seen him in
• 35:23
  the NFL. You know, I think he's a fluid kid.
• 35:28
  I wouldn't call him an explosive kid, but he's fluid.
• 35:32
  So you know, they don't play him a ton, so
• 35:34
  you know, I don't know if they plan on using
• 35:37
  him more. Although he did play, actually he did last week.
• 35:41
  He didn't play close to forty snaps last week, but
• 35:43
  he hadn't played a ton you know previously. We'll see.
• 35:47
  I mean, look, their third wide receiver really is a
• 35:50
  mixture of Whittington and too too at well, really when
• 35:55
  you get right down to it.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Yep, oh, Jeff didn't, didn't they Was it last year?
• 36:00
  Chaff for another time? Because Egles have played them in
• 36:02
  their three and l against them under Sirianni.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Was it a drop pass by out?
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Was it last year drop in the end zone? If
• 36:09
  I'm not Yeah, yeah, yeah he could run, man.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: He can know. Its funny, I I I really I
• 36:15
  kind of like they haven't really played the the rookie
• 36:19
  ferguson the tight end from uh from Oregon. He doesn't
• 36:22
  play very much through two games that you know. But
• 36:25
  I really like Davis Allen. I did like him coming
• 36:29
  out of Clemson. And while he's never going to be
• 36:31
  talked about as if he's a top five tight end
• 36:33
  in the league, he's got some movement to him. He's
• 36:36
  a pretty good player. He can run the seam. I mean,
• 36:38
  he's not just like one of your classic second tight
• 36:41
  ends that's just like a big guy and you throw
• 36:43
  him out there. He's he's got some movement to him
• 36:46
  and some receiving ability. Yeah.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Greg. This is why I think Sean
• 36:50
  McVay is one of the best coaches. I mean, it's
• 36:52
  obvious as records is it, but you brought up a
• 36:54
  point that I thought it was for that fantastic. A
• 36:56
  lot of coaches have their they do what they do,
• 36:59
  and Vey has really adjusted. You talked about how he
• 37:02
  used to be eleven personnel heavy, twelve. They also used
• 37:05
  to be a heavy outside zone team.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: They're not.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: They're not now, and they're like they're like the Eagles.
• 37:10
  They run inside z. They go under center more, but
• 37:12
  they'll still run it inside one.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: More gap scheme too, I mean, because it fits their backs.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I was just about to say they're catering. They don't
• 37:20
  have explosive athletes who can get to the edge, so
• 37:23
  run it up the middle with Kyn Williams. And I
• 37:25
  wanted to ask you about this. It looks like Blake
• 37:27
  koram to integrate, integrate more, and when I watch it,
• 37:32
  he's got a little more juice and a little more
• 37:34
  power than than Kien Williams. I would say, would you
• 37:36
  agree carries?
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: You know the other thing too is keep on taking mind,
• 37:43
  keep put me in mind. Williams had three hundred and
• 37:45
  sixteen carries last year. He's not a big man relative
• 37:49
  to what you think of guys who get that many carries, right,
• 37:51
  and you know at some point, you know. And he's
• 37:54
  a really good football player, by the way, and they
• 37:56
  did sign him and they love him. I mean, he's
• 37:57
  just a really good football player. You know, he catches,
• 38:00
  he blocks, he's a tough, physical, hard nosed runner. But
• 38:04
  you know, I don't know how many years he can
• 38:07
  capt three hundred and sixteen carries and they probably know that. Yep,
• 38:10
  you know, they don't want him by week eight to
• 38:12
  be worn out. And Quorum is a similar style back
• 38:15
  in the context of their offense.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, runs low to the ground and you have ive eight.
• 38:20
  But he's two ten and the runs I saw against
• 38:22
  the Titans, now, granted, I guess they were up a
• 38:24
  little bit so they decided to take.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: Some, but he showed something.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he can carry some guy. I mean he was
• 38:29
  like that at Michigan. He's not going to blow you
• 38:31
  away with speed.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: But he's not necessarily an explosive guy. But he's kind
• 38:34
  of similar to Williams.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so that gives him a little bit of
• 38:38
  a one to two punch there. Matthew Stafford, Let's let's
• 38:41
  get a breakdown of what you've seen, because there were
• 38:44
  some people who thought he wasn't even going to start
• 38:45
  the year with that back the way you back up a.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: Look, there's no question. You know, you can say this
• 38:50
  about any quarterback, but some it it has more relevance
• 38:53
  than others. If you can protect Matthew Stafford, he's just
• 38:58
  he's brilliant. Now, obviously you have to protect him. You know,
• 39:03
  he's not a guy that's going to make well, he's
• 39:05
  not immobile. He's certainly not a playmaker. But every once
• 39:07
  in a while he gets out of the pocket and
• 39:09
  makes a throw that's a while throw. But he's certainly
• 39:11
  not a playmaker. So you know, you have to get
• 39:16
  people around him. You've got to be able to pressure
• 39:18
  because if you I mean Tennessee last week and had
• 39:22
  no pass rush basically, and he just as the game
• 39:25
  progressed and it became more and more evident that they
• 39:27
  were not going to get bodies around him, he ultimately
• 39:31
  just sat there and made throws and as the game progressed,
• 39:34
  he just tore them apart. So you need to pressure
• 39:39
  him and make him feel uncomfortable. If he's comfortable, he
• 39:42
  still throws it as good as anybody in the league.
• 39:45
  And as you guys know, and for some reason, when
• 39:47
  people talk about quarterbacks, they don't mention him, but if
• 39:51
  you talk to coaches in the league, he may be
• 39:54
  the most respected quarterback in the league when you talk
• 39:56
  to coaches. And again I'm not saying, oh, he's the
• 40:00
  best team. We're not doing that. We're not, you know,
• 40:01
  playing that game of lists. I'm just telling you what
• 40:04
  coaches say. The Matthew Stafford is so incredibly respected.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Adam the biggest, the most important players
• 40:10
  on the Eagles defense this week, and this will be
• 40:13
  a true test. They've played great so far. But Bond,
• 40:16
  Campbell and the Gene, the three guys in that second level,
• 40:19
  that interior where Stafford loves to be able to throw
• 40:23
  the ball no look thread the windows. Yeah, man, those
• 40:27
  guys are up for a real test this week.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: You know, say that if they play zone, if they
• 40:32
  play zone a lot of own you're dealing with three
• 40:34
  guys that are underneath defenders in zone. And you know,
• 40:38
  Stafford obviously has no problem throwing the ball in the
• 40:41
  middle of the field, throwing it between zones. I mean,
• 40:43
  he's he's a window guy. He doesn't that That's just
• 40:46
  the way he sees the game, you know, and those
• 40:48
  guys that's a great point, Jeff. Those guys will become
• 40:51
  really important. It's underneath zone defenders, uh, you know against
• 40:55
  Stafford because you know, it's funny. There was a play
• 40:58
  it's in the Matchup show the week because actually Darius
• 41:01
  Butler did a piece on the rams oh this week
• 41:03
  and there was a pass to Adams that ended up
• 41:06
  being you know it was. It ended up being against
• 41:08
  Cover two. And when I saw the play myself watching
• 41:11
  on Monday or Tuesday, I just kept rewatching it thinking, okay,
• 41:15
  who can take that play away? It ended up being
• 41:17
  covered too, And so I asked Darius today and he said, well,
• 41:20
  the underneath a defender has to get a little more depth,
• 41:23
  he said, but that's just a weakness in the zone
• 41:27
  and if the quarterback has time just to be in rhythm,
• 41:29
  that's a tough thing to defend, right. And that's so
• 41:32
  it just struck me that, you know, it's all zones.
• 41:35
  We've talked about this so many times. All zones have voids, right,
• 41:39
  you know, the teams try to deal with the stress
• 41:42
  points that they know about, and the Eagles work very
• 41:45
  hard at that, I know for a fact. But you
• 41:47
  still can't take away every single void on every play.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: You know, one thing I want to ask you, Greg
• 41:53
  about Matthew Staffords. Early in his career with Detroit, he
• 41:57
  got knocked a lot of people. He was at first pick.
• 41:59
  Overall it should be barony was Now he's obviously great.
• 42:02
  What do you recall just in general of the growth
• 42:06
  from him, because again, here's a guy that would frustrate coaches.
• 42:09
  I talked to some of them over the years, but
• 42:11
  then he turned out to be a star.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: And if you can again, I wasn't with him. So
• 42:16
  you know, when you say frustrate coaches, you know, I
• 42:18
  don't know what they specifically mean. But I thought that
• 42:21
  once his first two years in the league, he was
• 42:23
  injured and people thought he was fragile, and he never
• 42:25
  play off I remember, you know, yeah, and then all
• 42:27
  of a sudden he never missed a game until one year.
• 42:29
  I guess he only played eight games he got it.
• 42:31
  But other than that, the guy never misses a game.
• 42:36
  I always thought he was really good with Detroit. I mean,
• 42:38
  I again, I'm not with him, so I don't know
• 42:41
  what what coaches are seeing that they thought maybe he
• 42:43
  wasn't quite what he should be, just because the talent
• 42:46
  level is off the charts. But I always thought even
• 42:49
  with Detroit, he was a really good player on a
• 42:51
  team on teams that weren't very good. You know. He
• 42:54
  he had years. He threw the ball so many times,
• 42:58
  you know, and that's so hard to do too much. Yeah,
• 43:01
  it's way too much. And you know, and now you know,
• 43:04
  once he got to McVeigh and obviously they won the
• 43:06
  super Bowl the first year and they've gotten to the playoffs.
• 43:10
  I mean, he's he's with a really well schemed, balanced
• 43:14
  type offense, and he's super intelligent. You know. It's funny.
• 43:18
  I had I met him once at an honors show.
• 43:22
  It was the super Bowl in Indianapolis. Because I remember
• 43:25
  that my wife was with me and she came to
• 43:27
  the super Bowl in Indianapolis. So I can't remember what
• 43:29
  year that was. But and so we actually were walking
• 43:33
  into the event together. And when I meet a guy
• 43:36
  like that, I don't want to just say, oh, you know, gee,
• 43:38
  I like watching you your bub Yeah, And I said, hey,
• 43:40
  can I ask you a question? And he goes sure,
• 43:42
  And I mentioned a play because I remember the play,
• 43:45
  you know, and he immediately told me everything about the
• 43:49
  play like he just did it five minutes before, you know.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: And it was amazing, it.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: Was you know. And and again it was a five
• 43:58
  minute conversation. It's not like I know Matthew and I did.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: He say, Hey, listen, buddy, you're a little weird. Why
• 44:03
  you ask me that?
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: No, well, it's funny.
• 44:06
  Speaker 7: He did the same thing with Damis Winston when he
• 44:08
  was with Tampa and I met him in a Super
• 44:10
  Bowl event and I started talking to him and I
• 44:12
  mentioned a play. And you know, these guys light up
• 44:15
  if you mentioned a play that they talked computed perfectly.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: Hey, light up. This is who they are, this is
• 44:19
  what they do.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Of course, all right, it's time to wrap it up
• 44:23
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• 44:25
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  it is time to make the predictions. You know what,
• 45:33
  I always either go to Greg or Adam Again, I'm
• 45:36
  gonna go first.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: I'm doing there, all right.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: I got the Eagles winning of the Eagles, by the way,
• 45:41
  our favorites at home, I should mention, and I believe
• 45:43
  last I saw it was one and a half. I
• 45:45
  don't know if the line is changed. Have you seen
• 45:47
  anything differently on that, Adam?
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: No?
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Sure, okay, just making sure one and a half point
• 45:53
  favorites is the last thing I saw. I'm sorry, it's
• 45:56
  three and a half. My fault three and a half
• 45:57
  point favorites at home over and a half.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Think the Eagles are gonna win and cover. I don't
• 46:03
  know if it's gonna be pretty. I think there will
• 46:05
  probably still be some questions about their offense, but I
• 46:07
  see Barkley having a better game and at least one
• 46:10
  explosive run. Eagles twenty six rams twenty and I will
• 46:15
  say Dallas Goddard will be MVP.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Wow, okay, you pick Adam?
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: All right? Well, Eagles are over Say what I'm gonna
• 46:24
  say because I'm I'm feeling good about this one, Jeff today.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'm gonna I'll do mine. Yes, the Eagles
• 46:31
  are overdue for loss, but it's not gonna happen. They're
• 46:33
  gonna win this game twenty seven to twenty four. The
• 46:35
  weather's gonna be great. I didn't I thought if it
• 46:37
  was lower than that to spread, but I don't care
• 46:39
  about that at this point, my player, the game is
• 46:42
  gonna be Jalen Hurts, I told you earlier this week.
• 46:44
  People know in Patreon I said it another show.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I said it.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: He's gonna feel at this game. But whatt a great
• 46:50
  press conference you have this week. I don't usually listen
• 46:52
  to him or any other player during the week. I'd
• 46:54
  heard Al said it in our Patreon Chad. I made
• 46:57
  sure I watched. He was phenomenal. That's not why I'm
• 46:59
  picking them, but good for him to own up to it.
• 47:01
  But we say this sometimes they're not right. We say
• 47:04
  Jones going to feel it.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Greg had one of those last year, and I got
• 47:07
  it right.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: I'm feeling that Hurts is gonna get He's gonna feel
• 47:10
  and this game is not gonna two touchdowns to twenty five,
• 47:13
  two in the airs first two of this season.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: There you go, all right, So twenty seven to twenty
• 47:17
  four not a cover but a win and a jail
• 47:19
  Hurts game, MVP, Greig, finish it off. What do we got?
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: All right? I'm gonna I believe the Eagles run game
• 47:25
  is going to get back on track this week. So
• 47:27
  I'm gonna pick Barkley as my player of the game.
• 47:29
  And I'm right there with you, and score wise, I'm
• 47:31
  gonna I was gonna pick twenty seven to twenty three Eagles,
• 47:34
  So that's good, you know, I think it's going to
• 47:36
  be a close game. I mean, I think the Rams
• 47:38
  could easily win the game, but I just think that
• 47:41
  this is the week that that Barkley is going to
• 47:44
  break out. I'm a little concerned just about the size
• 47:46
  difference with it all line and I you know, I
• 47:49
  just that's that's how I see this game.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Good, all right, and that is going to do it.
• 47:55
  That is a great wrap up, thorough x's and no's, scalpel,
• 47:58
  four steps and all that. That's gonna do it. For
• 48:01
  the Inside the Birds pregame show for Greg Cosell and
• 48:04
  Adam Kaplan, I'm Jeff Mosher. Everybody, enjoy your football watching.
• 48:08
  Catcha on the next one.