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Michael Chandler · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: The boys, Yo hit your boy comp nasty.
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  Speaker 2: Alongside his boy, not really alongside his boy, but also
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  Speaker 2: Taylor Luwan, I'm sitting in my fucking girlfriend's closet right
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  Speaker 2: now recording this intro on this beautiful Monday turn of events.
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  Speaker 2: My mind's all over the place, So I apologize for
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  Speaker 2: this weird excitement, just level of whatever. The boy just
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  Speaker 2: got called by Oakland. I'm about to pack, in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of packing right now to fly out to Oakland.
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  Speaker 2: I have a workout tomorrow. Not not on the team yet,
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  Speaker 2: but big week ahead. I'll keep you guys posted obviously,
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  Speaker 2: but crazy journey man, you know the boy.
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  Speaker 1: We're trying to give you guys some podcasts.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Reminder, everything's backlog, so everything you hear is from the summer.
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  Speaker 1: But exciting shit.
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  Speaker 2: Man, your boy, your boys going out to Oakland, have
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  Speaker 2: a try out. Keep you guys updated. But pretty cool shit.
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  Speaker 2: Spooketober stuff spooktober Merch. We're at the end of October. Awesome, Taylor.
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  Speaker 2: We went to this spook last last week with UH,
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  Speaker 2: with our UH, with our better halves.
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  Speaker 1: We went to the slaughterhouse. Phenomenal spook.
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking like a forty minute banger, and at the
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  Speaker 2: end there's like this little maze that you got to
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  Speaker 2: get through. Everybody's kind of crammed and you got to
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  Speaker 2: pick the right door find your way through it. It's
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  Speaker 2: scary as shit. Huge shout outs of Slaughterhouse. They do
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  Speaker 2: it right. We we had a good season of Spooks, man,
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  Speaker 2: We had a good season on Haunted Houses. Beast House
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  Speaker 2: was dope, Slaughterhouse was awesome, Nightmare in Nashville was awesome,
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  Speaker 2: but Slaughterhouse, man, I really liked.
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  Speaker 1: What I loved about Slaughterhouse is they had the classics, dude.
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  Speaker 1: So we're like going through it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's my turn to be in the front,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a little spooky going through each one.
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  Speaker 1: Then boom, they got Jason. They got the classics. Jason.
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  Speaker 1: Uh uh, who am I trying to think of?
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  Speaker 2: They got Jason, Freddie and Mike Mys just bam bam bam,
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  Speaker 2: all back to back and talking in their element. You're
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  Speaker 2: kind of walking. Jason just pops out of you. Dudes,
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  Speaker 2: like six six they got a gray look at Jason
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  Speaker 2: in there comes at you with a freaking sword or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: He's got the machete. Scared of shit.
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  Speaker 2: Oh shit, you know, go on to the next on
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  Speaker 2: Freddy Krueger sitting there, and then they got the they
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  Speaker 2: got the music.
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  Speaker 1: Playing the dun du du du du du du dun
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  Speaker 1: d and you're like, oh shit.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Mars is around here, and you just respect getting
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  Speaker 2: spooped by Mike Marris because he's a legend.
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  Speaker 1: But they had the classics in there. Make it through
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  Speaker 1: the maze.
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  Speaker 2: Go check out Slaughterhouse if you get a minute. And
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  Speaker 2: these are these are these are sponsored deals. These are
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  Speaker 2: just like you know, the boys are out there reviewing
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  Speaker 2: and seeing what haunt houses are out there in Nashville.
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  Speaker 1: But Slaughterhouse was a dope one last week. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Spootober merch, go get your spootober shit.
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  Speaker 2: Uh twenty five percent off of running a sales Since
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  Speaker 2: you know, obviously we're at the end of October, shout
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  Speaker 2: out Spootober.
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  Speaker 1: Phenomenal came wait for next year.
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  Speaker 2: Already getting into the nice little holiday season now and
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  Speaker 2: Christmas and Thanksgiving, so time to.
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  Speaker 1: Put on that little winter coat.
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  Speaker 2: My pups eat up eats candy, going into the Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 2: food and then the Christmas holiday meals and the gifts.
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  Speaker 1: And I love it this time of year. Is amazing.
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  Speaker 2: the girls. If you're not formingre against him, the boys
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  Speaker 2: ain't shit without the girls. Proceeds are going to breast
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  Speaker 2: about podcasts there, Donnie, I've already talked about that these
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  Speaker 2: that season. That's really the reason why I continue to
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  Speaker 1: Whatever you gotta say, man.
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  Speaker 2: Do for the boys, We'll poach you, we'll put you
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  Speaker 2: all that fun stuff. Man.
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  Speaker 2: Are reviews, by the way, that shit is hilarious and dope.
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  Speaker 2: And also those little subtle the little subtle climbing of
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  Speaker 2: the load of those little bone and Viv baby, I
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  Speaker 2: had I love the little bone and Viv's the little woman.
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  Speaker 1: With the little mermaid on the can. Dude.
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  Speaker 2: I'm all about that life, dude, And I'm gonna keep
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep plugging the little bone of bees because
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  Speaker 2: they're a litt subtle favorite of the boy. All right,
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  Speaker 2: guest today, Michael Chandler. Dude's an MMA fighter, three time
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  Speaker 2: belt or champion. He's ranking number seven as a as
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  Speaker 2: a lightweight in the whole freaking world as far as
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  Speaker 2: all MMA fighters go, UFC, belt or all of it combined. Dude,
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  Speaker 2: just stud man. He's on quite a journey right now.
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  Speaker 2: We talk about his journey. We talk about defending the title,
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  Speaker 2: getting the title, rematching for the title, losing the title.
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  Speaker 2: He's going. He lost his last fight when he lost
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  Speaker 2: the belt. He came on the bus, talked about it,
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  Speaker 2: We talked about uh, we talk about a lot of things. Man,
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  Speaker 2: What goes onto the mind of a fighter as you're
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  Speaker 2: in the in the middle of this journey. He's got
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  Speaker 2: a fight coming up in December, So we're all for
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  Speaker 2: the boy dude, so be on the lookout for that.
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  Speaker 2: But awesome conversation Me and Taylor sit down with them.
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  Speaker 2: Super awesome dude. Man, I'm telling you, he's really uh,
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  Speaker 2: really unique individual, has a lot of great shift for perspective,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of great stuff to stay motivated and inspired.
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  Speaker 2: Big fan of Michael Chandler. You're gonna love the episode,
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  Speaker 2: so you know, yeah, my puffs go out. There be
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  Speaker 2: a fucking wolf.
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  Speaker 4: I love it, dude, I love it. Man, Dude, I'm
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  Speaker 4: old as fuck now. I don't even know what they
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  Speaker 4: do anymore. Gone soon, man, And we.
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  Speaker 2: Usually just start to find there. We usually just go
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  Speaker 2: into it. We're right, yeah, we're in right now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we're not professional enough to know. We're just like, you
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  Speaker 2: know what, fuck it. Let's just we don't even just
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  Speaker 2: start talking. And that's when the podcast starts.
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  Speaker 1: That's the best, that's the best time. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It's just because I feel like a lot of podcasts
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  Speaker 4: like they sit there and they're like, all right, hey,
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  Speaker 4: five minutes boys.
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  Speaker 3: And then everybody looks at their phone and then you're
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  Speaker 3: a guest. You don't know these dudes that we know,
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  Speaker 3: these dudes. You sit there and you're like, all right,
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  Speaker 3: like what the fuck are these guys gonna ask me?
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  Speaker 3: Like what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: And then and then the main guys they got their
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  Speaker 1: sheet of paper to like read the end about you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm glad to see our our production crew. They have
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  Speaker 4: notes on you. Usually it's fucking terrible. Like usually it's
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  Speaker 4: it says, it says summertime.
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  Speaker 3: And good luck like that. So what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: Man?
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  Speaker 3: How's life? What's what's up?
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  Speaker 5: Life is good? Man? Just enjoying life between fights. So
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  Speaker 5: like between fights when I'm not when I'm not in
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  Speaker 5: training camp, you know, I can kind of cut back
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  Speaker 5: a little bit, cut of loose a little bit, hang
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  Speaker 5: out with the family.
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  Speaker 3: What's the workout schedule?
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  Speaker 4: Like though, when you're off fights, like you go to
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  Speaker 4: a fight, how much time do you take off? And
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  Speaker 4: so I'm not as well versed in UFC or any
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  Speaker 4: of that stuff. I do like it. I love watching it.
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  Speaker 4: So you go hit a fight. When's the next time
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  Speaker 4: they'll usually have a fight?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, hang on, hang on, yeh, he actually just lost
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  Speaker 1: his belt.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh jesus, So this is a depression podcast, a depression.
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  Speaker 1: It's actually going to be a bad it's gone.
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  Speaker 5: You guys got sound effects and stuff. I mean, more
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  Speaker 5: than more than anything right now in my life is
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  Speaker 5: realizing what is most important, realizing you know that this
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  Speaker 5: fight game is about the journey and not the wins
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  Speaker 5: and losses. But you know, this last fight wasn't I
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  Speaker 5: didn't take a ton of damage. It was like very quick.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy off. Do you feel like it was
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  Speaker 2: too short? They stopped it too short?
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  Speaker 5: No, you're fine, Yeah, I know. It's so hard being
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  Speaker 5: in my position because I of course I I'm the
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  Speaker 5: guy who lost. I'm the guy who you know. So
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  Speaker 5: the good thing is there's a lot of people out
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  Speaker 5: there who thought it was an early stoppage, a lot
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  Speaker 5: of people out there who thought I got wronged. So
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  Speaker 5: you let them do the talking. You let them do
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  Speaker 5: it because because if it's you, then you just and truthfully,
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  Speaker 5: I think it It was an awesome the way that
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  Speaker 5: it happened. And then when I got onto the you know,
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  Speaker 5: when I got onto the mic afterwards, people were like, man,
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  Speaker 5: that was one of the coolest losses I've ever seen,
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  Speaker 5: or like one of the best speeches after a loss
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  Speaker 5: I've ever seen, So like a like a great lose,
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  Speaker 5: great loser.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, dude, what I can't.
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  Speaker 1: So this guy what's his name? Pat?
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  Speaker 5: And he came up right yeah, personal, it's pretty personal.
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  Speaker 5: I throw a long jab here, he just catches me
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  Speaker 5: behind the ear.
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  Speaker 1: Right there.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's some bullsh So it was crazy too because
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  Speaker 5: those were illegal shots as well. So I think the
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  Speaker 5: ref jumped in just as much because they were illegal shots.
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  Speaker 3: But then, oh, you're mad as fuck here too.
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  Speaker 4: Oh man, Yeah, you're just trying to you're holding it in, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you are.
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  Speaker 5: And and it's and when you and and I truthfully
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  Speaker 5: think that they should never let two fighters come together
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  Speaker 5: like that after a fight, because there's nothing worse than
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  Speaker 5: the man that just you know, whether it was right,
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  Speaker 5: whether it was wrong. So right there the top of
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  Speaker 5: your ear there, right behind the ear.
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  Speaker 3: That hurts.
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  Speaker 4: But like I mean, yeah, if you're probably more off
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  Speaker 4: balance than you were stunted there he missed.
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  Speaker 1: In your arms.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and you kind of you kind of they're putting
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  Speaker 5: the hands up. I mean, it's were you with a fight.
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  Speaker 5: So you're you know you guys know, you get boom,
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  Speaker 5: you get kind of your you're with knocked out about
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  Speaker 5: you a little bit but you're still white, you're still awake,
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  Speaker 5: You're still you know, you're still going, but it's there.
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  Speaker 5: There's a couple different types of knockouts. There's the knockouts
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  Speaker 5: where you just go stiff, you know, and the toes
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  Speaker 5: are curling, and then there's the other ones where you
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  Speaker 5: just loosey goosey. So it's kind of a it's a
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  Speaker 5: weird thing, you know, the way the body, the way
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  Speaker 5: the body handles damage like that. But yeah, so my
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  Speaker 5: body kind of went limp. You kind of just lose.
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  Speaker 5: You don't lose consciousness, you almost just lose your equilibrium.
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  Speaker 5: You lose That's what happened.
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  Speaker 2: You always because the staff will always be concerned about
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  Speaker 2: I mean in me too, I'm always wondering about you.
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  Speaker 2: I might concuss or not, because sometimes I'll take hits
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  Speaker 2: on the head and I'll just like lose the present moment,
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  Speaker 2: Like i might not be able to feel anything for
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  Speaker 2: a second, but I'm all there and literally I'm snapped
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  Speaker 2: out of it. Yeah, you know, after after a second.
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  Speaker 2: There was one time we always laugh about it. There's
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  Speaker 2: just Limon, who hit me? He's like night night, motherfucker,
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I was like stiff, and I couldn't
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  Speaker 2: really get up at that on that one. But there's
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  Speaker 2: been a couple to where they'll be coming out hey
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  Speaker 2: stay down, stad down, and I'm like, yo, I'm literally
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  Speaker 2: fine now. But I kind of took it for a second.
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  Speaker 2: Is that Is that what you felt when you took
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  Speaker 2: that shot in the back of the head.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's it's well, it's one of those
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  Speaker 5: things too where you kind of have that flash of
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  Speaker 5: not much memory too. Yeah, you know, but as you
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  Speaker 5: can see when I when I went down, I saw
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  Speaker 5: the punch coming and I dodged it, so I had
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  Speaker 5: my wits about me there, or maybe it was just instinct.
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  Speaker 5: And that's why that is one of the reasons why
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  Speaker 5: we have to train so hard. We train sixty minutes
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  Speaker 5: for a twenty five minute fight, right, you know, forty
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  Speaker 5: five minutes for a fifteen minute fight, because you want
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  Speaker 5: your body to be able to react on just instinct, right,
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  Speaker 5: you know. But yeah, that was more of a body
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  Speaker 5: went limp for a second. But I was, I was
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  Speaker 5: there and then I remember pretty much everything after that.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, you're sure you're getting up too,
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  Speaker 4: like you're you're trying to get up. But then a ref,
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  Speaker 4: you contel has already made the decision. He's already putting
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  Speaker 4: himself in there. And I don't know what it is
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  Speaker 4: to be a ref, especially in all bellotore right, it
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  Speaker 4: was called bellator. You have seen those types of things.
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  Speaker 4: But I feel like when you make a decision, you
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  Speaker 4: have to be very quick because there's being punches thrown. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so if you're like, I got to okay, the fight's over,
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  Speaker 4: you got to dive in there.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing twice about it. I think if he waited half a.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and that's and I think that's what it is too.
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  Speaker 5: I would not want that job. I mean probably the
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  Speaker 5: same thing with you guys.
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  Speaker 3: You wouldn't want to be an.
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  Speaker 5: NFL ref either, when the whole game could be on
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  Speaker 5: your back. Nobody wants Nobody wants to be that, right.
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  Speaker 5: You know, they don't get they don't get paid enough
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  Speaker 5: for the you know, the the position they're in. But
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  Speaker 5: you know, especially in mixed martial arts, like you said, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: they have to make a split second decision based upon
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  Speaker 5: what they see, and a lot of times it happened.
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  Speaker 5: It happened with a guy that I wrestled with, Ben
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  Speaker 5: asking remember him yeah, so he he had a really
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  Speaker 5: bad that was that was bad.
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  Speaker 1: That was une flying.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so that was bad. Bring that up, Ben Asking.
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  Speaker 5: But before that, he had a guy it looked like
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  Speaker 5: he was choked choked him out, so the ref jumped
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  Speaker 5: in and then right right as the ref jumped in,
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  Speaker 5: so he let go and the guy Robbi Lawler was
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  Speaker 5: just like, what happened? What are you doing?
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  Speaker 4: You know, when it comes to chokeouts, I feel like
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  Speaker 4: you either got to tap you right, he's kind of
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  Speaker 4: It's super easy to tell when someone's lost consciousness, especially
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  Speaker 4: and choking it out.
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  Speaker 5: This is bad, dude.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't the flying knee I was telling you about
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  Speaker 2: that we should have talked about while you're yelling at me.
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  Speaker 3: It's nice in the morning.
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  Speaker 5: So here's the very beginning of the fight.
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  Speaker 3: This dude comes, Oh he's down.
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  Speaker 5: That's the beginning, you know, houck stracking him to the fight.
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  Speaker 1: So it's you.
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  Speaker 3: You know that dude taught at the ship out of
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  Speaker 3: him and he was out too. Yeah, So who's this cat?
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  Speaker 5: So this is the guy that guy just knocked out?
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  Speaker 5: Was Ben asking? You guys wrestled together one of the
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  Speaker 5: greatest human beings on earth.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, no doubt.
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  Speaker 5: But this dude right here, man long hair, freaking braided
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  Speaker 5: in the backyard, you know, some shorts on, no shirt,
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  Speaker 5: just blaring it out, bare knuckle. And now he's been
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  Speaker 5: in and he's been in all the all the major organizations,
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  Speaker 5: even in the Strike Force. He was in BELATOI, now
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  Speaker 5: I was in the UFC. Honestly, he was written off
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  Speaker 5: for a long time. He's got like thirteen fift he losses.
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  Speaker 5: But that's what this sport, That's what this sport breeds.
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  Speaker 5: You're as long as you can go from setback to
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: setback or loss the loss without losing the momentum or
• 14:10
  Speaker 5: losing the faith, or maybe you just don't have another option,
• 14:12
  Speaker 5: you know. I mean like if I lost a bunch
• 14:14
  Speaker 5: of fights in a row, I'd probably be like, Okay,
• 14:15
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna hang it up, and these move on to
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: other endeavors. But you know a lot of these guys
• 14:19
  Speaker 5: don't have a lot to fall back on them either.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: They're still fighting.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: Like Arlovsky I just saw fighting the other night and
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, what the mark is he still fighting?
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: Now? Dude?
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: He's any any just set three records twenty years Yeah,
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: twenty years he was.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: He was a champ too, like like eighteen years ago.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: But he's know, why is he still fighting?
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: He's just yeah, And I bet you know, he's getting
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: paid pretty I'm sure he's getting paid really well. And
• 14:41
  Speaker 5: he's you know, I don't know. Those heavyweights can always
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: fight longer than a lot of the lighter weights because
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: it's not as much based on speed and and cardio
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: and that kind of stuff. You know, they're just bigger,
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: and everything's a little slower barbaric, barbarics technical, not maybe
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: not as not not as technical, but just everything is
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: a a lot slower. Like so for me, I'm going
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: to lose my speed and my quickness compared to another
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: fifty five Yeah, a lot faster, a lot faster than
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: and Arlovsky who's now forty something years old. He can
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: still hang with those those heavyweights now they all get
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: you know, take a lot of damage to get knocked
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: out a lot. So hopefully hopefully they're all right.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: But that's a lot of information. I just close. What's okay?
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: So I walked in here, said, UFC, you fight, you
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: fight for beltar BELATOI yeah, So what's the difference between
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: belatour UFC, and what was the other one Force Strikeforce.
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: Strike Force is an older organization. They're not they're not
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: around anymore. UFC bought them. There's one FC that's mainly
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: based over in Asia. They're coming over here, opening up
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: US US offices here. But essentially it's all the same sport.
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: It would be just it would be exactly like the
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: rules that you guys play in the NFL, and a
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: new league came up with the exact same leag but
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: it was just a different league. The main difference. The
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: main difference is the UFC is the biggest. It's been
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: around since nineteen ninety three, so they've just celebrated their
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: twenty fifth anniversary. Belotore has been around since two thousand
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: and eight, so they're, you know, just ten years into it.
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: So Bellotour's gaining steam. One FC is coming, you know,
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: coming in with with taking taking kind of the may
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: world by storm because they're paying guys better and you know,
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: doing some big shows over in Asia. So Bellatore's taken
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: really great care of me. I've been with them since
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: the beginning of my career. Really I came in. They
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: used to do a tournament where it'd be eight eight
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: guys in a bracket, three fights in three months. So
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: I fought March, April and May of twenty eleven and
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: oh that's dope, and then fought November twenty eleven. It
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: was like one hundred thousand dollars tournament, and then I
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: fought for the world title all in one year. So
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: I saw a great path to be able to get
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: to you know, top five in the world with Belatore,
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: and then I've kind of made myself an indispensable asset
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: and that's always the goal.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have do you want to be in
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: the UFC?
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Like what I like, what's the thought behind sitting back
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: and being like, obviously UFC is the most popular, it's
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: the most known, and you know the ins and outs
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: of it. So you're like, oh, I'm gonna stay putting
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: beltur for I know my reasons why, and they're better reasons,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: but it's just you.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeall want to get in the fucking UFC.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Just to put things into perspective too, like the NFL,
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Like there's there's a bunch of the league, there's the XFL.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: There was a a f a f L right, a
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: aa aof or something like that. They just they seventy
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: dollars down the drain, like didn't even get a whole season. Uh,
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: there's this the CFL. Like there's a whole bunch of
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: different football leagues.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: But the one is the NFL.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: Everybody wants to play in the NFL is with the money,
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: is the best, publicity is the best, the best team,
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: is the best talent and all that. I don't know
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: if that like I think, I don't know if that
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: is it the same or as Belts were.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Like Belt is pretty real.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: But the UFC you think of like Econocon McGregor. You
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: have the Na Diaz guy, you had all the all
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: those dudes and.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so here here here's what I would say. School
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: is bro let me school you guys up real quick.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: And it's hard to because you know, like to be
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: real truthful will hurt people's feelings in this kind of stuff.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: But but really, when you have all the power you can,
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: you can suppress the wages. Right, So it's actually the opposite.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: So the UFC is the biggest organization, yet I would
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: say that they pay they pay less to the smaller third,
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: the smaller you know of the guys now now well,
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: I will say, if you go over there, you play
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: your cards right, you when your you win your fights,
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: you do your job, you can make millions and millions
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: of dollars like Connor has, like Kabeb has, like like
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: John Jones, and these person that can help you exactly
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: and in that they're in the top one percent. So
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: it's it's it's hard to say, but I've I've made
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: my decisions based upon what's the best decision for myself
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: and my family, my future family. Whenever I was you know,
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: just had a wife and didn't have a son. Now,
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: but now I just signed another contract about it a
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: year ago and have another year or so left on it.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: And I made that decision based upon finances. I mean,
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: you don't go, you don't leave your current job, your
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: current company, your current situation for a different situation that
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: will pay you less, that you might might get less
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: respect and all that. Because the other thing, too is
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: I am I've made myself an indispensable asset to it
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: to a great organization was take really taking really really
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: great care of me. If I go to the UFC,
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: I'm just another face as well. Now guy, Now there's
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: people all over the world and I see it every day,
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: and I would love to see you fight. I'd love
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: to see if fight could be. But we'd love to
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: see you fight these top guys in the world because
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: they think I can hang with them or maybe even
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: beat them. But going in making less money and then
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: having to fight five of the top five of the
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: top ten guys just to get to that maybe title
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: shot where they can dangle the carrot and say, hey,
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: if you win these five fights plus this one, you'll
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: make X amount of dollars. Blah blah blah. I'm not
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: into that. I've proven myself, you know.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: So you're even saying the bellatour like they they they
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: can take care of guys better than what the UFC
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: would do.
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: So I think I think it's just spread out a
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: little bit more. I think I think the highest earners
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: in the entire world will always be the UFC guys
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: because of the pay per view model, because of how
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: big they are and how much money they spend promoting it.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: But there's I mean, when you see when you see
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: you know, myself and Ryan Bader, fad or Amillionenko, you know,
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: all these all these big name guys, big high, high
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: level athlete. Guys that are that are making really great
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: money for the sport. When it comes to the sport,
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: we're making extremely good money up in that top one percent,
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: but the lower half of the UFC and even the
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: lower half of bellators not making a lot of money.
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: This is a hard, hard business to make a lot
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: of money in. And the older I get, the longer
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: I'm in the sport, the more I realize how truly
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: blessed I am to be in the sport for ten
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: years and be at competing at a high level with
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: all the world titles that I fought for, and then
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: making the money that I'm making too. So it's it's
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: a crazy sport. And I would you know, all you
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: young kids out there who you know, I can't wait
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: to be an m fighter someday. It's uh, it's tough,
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: and you got to play your cards right, just like
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: being in the NFL, right, you know.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, there's I mean, I can't imagine going like
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: I watched the UFC fights all the time, and I'm
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: watching these dudes walk in and walking to the ring,
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, I can't even imagine that feeling. Yeah, Like, well,
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: it's probably like it's probably walking out of the tunnel.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: But the same thing, it's like, yeah, I got fifty
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: three dudes with me.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: And if you by yourself with like your.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Your crew, your trainers, cameras and you and people is
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: in your face, you got your song going. And it's
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: like that's got to be such a surreal feeling. And
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know, man, the stresses that have to come
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: with just walking into that ring with somebody. There's got
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: to be I mean, there's so much viewing and stuff
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: like that. There's lots of money out there. I don't
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: know why guys aren't getting paid.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: The same thing for the NFL, Like there's a minimum
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: for everybody, right and the older you get that eventually
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: that minimum gets like I don't think what nine hundred,
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah for the older dudes and the younger When I
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: was a rookie, it was like four to twenty or
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: something like that. But it's like there's so much money,
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: and you would think, like, you know, you offer more money,
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: you're gonna have those kids that want to fight.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: Well, and that's the thing too. I don't want to
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: make this a you know, bashing on the organizations like
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: they should pay us more. We should get paid more
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: for what we do in the UFC. Rightfully, so without
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: what Dana White and Lorenzo for Tita and Frank Furtida,
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: what those guys did starting this, starting this sport, paving
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: the way for all of us to be able to
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: make a living, I'm making a living in an organization
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: I've never I've never even spoken to Day and Dana White,
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: I've never I've never been in the UFC, You've never
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: fought in the octagon. But yet what they did since
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: nineteen ninety three has made me, you know, very financially
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: secure to be able to take care of my family
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: fighting in a different organization because off of the back
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: of the biggest organization in the world and their kind
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: of their stock inside the world. So they, you know,
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: they deserve to to to make their share as well.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: It would be nice if we made more, But it's
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: you know, going back to stepping into the cage, it's
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: it's pretty crazy. You know, you just have to know
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: that you've done everything you possibly can. You have to
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: be you really just have to be willing and able
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: to accept the uncertainty that's about to happen, you know,
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: just just like my last fight. Man, that's embarrassing. You know,
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: just getting knocked out in front of.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: It can end.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Yes, there go getting knocked out the Dolphins.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Last year and everything, like you work so goddamn hard
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: to for something like like it to end that dude
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: like that, twelve weeks twelve, you're not even.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Really out of it.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: It's like you have I'm gonna fucking lose this fast,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: like knock me the fuck, just decapitate.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like you there.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Thinking like it's that's it. Yeah, all the however long
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: you train like that's it just comes to an end
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: that fast.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Oh boy. Yeah. Here's Tailor's So that's Andre Bran week one.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: This is week one and eighteen season. So I'm running
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: right there on the less other and I just get
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: blind sided. And that's Andre Branch too.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: He's like a second team slappy like not he's not
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: anybody guy.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: He's going to man.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: So he's right here.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: He's yelling body back.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: He's a body back and ninety one there camra Wigs
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: now on our team.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: He's now about it, dude, he said.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: So I talked to Kim about it and he's like honestly, dude,
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: Like there's the boy shout out.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right there.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: So now and then it's a big deal and we're moving.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Now we're done.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: They stopped the fight with He's like, what stopped? I mean,
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: this is my favorite party and they got my back
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: on this sil Man see And that's and that's the
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: funny thing too. Mixed marshal Let is very similar. Like
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: I'm I'm literally training right now with the with the
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: team that I lost my first fight ever I lost.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: I beat Eddie Alvarez to win the world title. Work
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: is huge, which is huge, But then I lost to
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: him about two years later. I'm now training with the
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: team that that coached him. I'm now training my my
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: head coach, My main head coach coached Eddie Alvarez against
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: me two years ago when I lost that fight. Right,
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: So it's just it's a weird. It's weird how it's
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: such a big world but it's so so small. Just
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: like you say, Cameron wakes over there, high five and
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: his boys just laid you out, and now he's trying to.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Lay people out for you, right, you know, so that's crazy.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: How was that conversation?
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: What did he so it was like a Regen day
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: during OTAs and I was like, Cam, we got a problem.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: And Cam is like a super like soft spoken dude,
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: nicest guy, and he's like, what's wrong? And I was like,
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: you boy, brandch knocking with the funk out like a
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: year high five whatever, Oh what's the deal? And his
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: words allegedly he says he didn't know, Like he's like,
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: I didn't know, Like I knew there's a commotions. Someone
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: got hit, but I don't know who did it or
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: or anything like that.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: No.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: I feel like if it was anybody else, Honestly, if
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: it was anybody else, I feel like I'd be like,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: you're full of shit. But Cam, like you watch him
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: play games and he's lily just there to get the
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: quarterback and go home, yea, so locked in you look,
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: it doesn't look like he focused on the riff raft
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: the bullshit.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: It is funny too because because people will say that
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: kind of stuff, you know, what what did you think
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: when this guy did that?
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Or he did that?
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: And it's kind of interesting too because I really don't
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: look at it like the the entity that I'm about
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: to fight is a human being.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I just see.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: I just see two arms and I see two legs.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: That's my size, and he's trying to take food off
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: the off the table for my family. And I don't
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: really look at him like it's a person his personality.
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: Got a job and yeah you got you got a
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: job to do, and you just you do it and
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: a lot of times you black out, just go after it.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what's that emotion?
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Like, Like, obviously you trained for months at a time
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: and it's just you're hard working and you start walking
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: to the ring and that adrenaline dump or how much
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: do you have to probably mentally train for something like
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: or a young guy that you're he's probably going into
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: his first fight, maybe the big dance walking to the octagon, Like, Yo,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: what are the emotions going back? Here's what you're gonna
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: be looking for. Here's how you gotta suppress certain emotions.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Because again, like it's just you, dude, it's just you.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: And once you enter that ring and it's kind of
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: dark and you know everyone's out there and the spotlight's on, like,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: it's got to be a different feeling. And obviously we're
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: all jacked to go train every day, but now when
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: you're fucking in the arena and the lights are on,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: You're just kind of like, what is that emotion?
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: Like, yeah, man, you hit the nail on the head
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: when you talk about actually having to suppress a lot
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: of it too, because I mean, human human emotion, human
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: human the human spirit wants to get up for those
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: types of types of scenarios. That's why visualizing it stepping
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: into the cage before you actually step into the cage.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, I can close my eyes and I can
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: see the walk, I can smell what the cage smells like.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: I can I can feel the heat of the lights.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: I can feel kind of the rumble of the crowd
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: like you guys probably can on the field. You can
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: feel it. You got it. You got to feel it
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: before you actually get there. And really just just realizing
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: what where your emotion Like there's a spectrum from you know,
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: emotion to energy, and you want to get to an area.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: You want to get to that number, if it's a
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: one through ten, you want to get to that number
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: where you're gonna perform the best, where you're gonna flow,
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: where you're gonna where you're gonna be at your best,
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: and kind of fire and all cylinders for me, it
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: should be about a five, should be no higher than
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: a five. I don't want to I don't want to
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: have a lot of emotion because emotion drives the heart
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: rate up and drives all that stuff up. And a
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: lot of times can we make a mistake. But also
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: too when you see people like in a fight and
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: you say, oh my gosh, he's gassed. He's not really
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: out of shape. He probably just got into a situation,
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: into a scenario where his a heart rate got elevated.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: He didn't have his emotions in check, and he, you know,
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: he lost that cardio. Same thing with wrestling, man, Like
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: you know you grew up watching your brother. I'm sure, right, Cody.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I wrestled. I wrestled up until I quit have the
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: sixth grade. Hated it.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Parents forced me to do it again in a high
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: school or I would be grounded for the winter.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: And you look like you when you look like you
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: like I. I I played football, but I didn't really
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: play for all. I was like, you know, I was like,
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: wrestling is good for me because of weight classes, right,
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: you know so? But you know, same thing with wrestling, man,
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: I had, you know, matches where you get taken down
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: in the first thirty seconds of a match, and all
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: of a sudden, you're the negativity goes to the to
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: the to the roof, and then all of a sudden
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: you lose that match, and you feel like your feed
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: are in quicksand and feeder in cement blocks, you know.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: So as you're as you're walking into the cage. A
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: lot of times too, I talk about talking to myself
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: instead of hearing, you know. So yeah, you know, because
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: because I think if you just are sitting there, you know,
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: the human I think they are. Our brains were wired
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: for that, that fight or flight, that like survival mode,
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: and you know, and you're always worried about threats, possible threats.
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: There's a million perceivable threats. When you're walking into a
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: cage with the manu, one s rip your head off.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: So instead of thinking about that, instead of just sitting
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: there in silence and hearing what might come into my mind,
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: because just one negative thought can be a can be
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: a waterfall that can send you down the wrong path.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: So a lot of times I'm just sitting there and
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: I'm talking to myself, you know, whether it's audibly or
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: whether it's in my head talking to myself because I
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: can because if I can feel that space, if I
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: can feel that void, then the chances of any kind
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: of negativity coming in or are slimming on.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: That fireflight, that fight or flight is so real, like
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: like a human being, if you bring us down, like
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: we're still caveman times, like we still are not evolved
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: enough to understand like it's gonna be like there's no
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: gray area, Like if there's a situation where it's high intensity,
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: you're gonna go a journals and start rushing. It's either
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: gonna tell you like I get the fuck out of
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: here right to bow up. That's just that's crazy. How
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: you think we've evolved so much, but we're really haven't.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: At the end of the day.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: It's still when you get put in those black and
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: white situations, that's gonna be one way or the other.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: And what I've realized too, And as the older I get,
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: the more I realize, I spent a lot of years
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: fight or flight in in my training, right, you know,
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: so I was I would get into a knockdown, drag
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: out war number one in the sparring sessions number one.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: It's not good because I think a human being can
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: only take so many shots to the head and channing
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: before it's it's over right, you're.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Mush and then you got that yeah, which is I mean,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: we'll get into the concussion protocol here as a stuff,
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: go keep on fish with thoughts.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: So I used to train where it was fighter flight
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: because I was a tough guys like I fought more
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: with my balls than I did my brain, and I.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Would just go, go go.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: But now the older I get, the more I realize
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: drilling and being in more of a play fun sparring
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: type of scenario where there is no perceived threat, where
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: I'm actually cognitively thinking about what I'm doing, cognitively thinking
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: about different tells, different footwork, different feints, different different movements
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: to be able to actually break down the sparring sessions
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: in front of me, rather than that fighter flight. Because
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: I know I've already proven that I'm tough, but me
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: being tough inside of a cage number one is not
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: the best way for me to fight. I'd rather be
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: a technical, beat them up, walk home, or walk out
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: of the cage and collect paycheck. Case my wife, let's go.
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: So I've kind of tailored my training more towards less
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: fight or flight in the training because I know, if
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: I get into a fight where it's like, okay, it's
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: the fourth and fifth round I lost, I'm down around.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: I gotta win these next two rounds to win the fight,
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna I mean, I can sack up and go,
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: so I know I can do that. So it's more
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: about being technical.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: You were on the Joe Rogan podcast Shout Out Joe Rogan,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: we want you on the bus one day you're on. Yeah,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I was listening to your episode, Joe, and you're huge
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: on visualization, which is stuff we've talked about.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Before, and you're like, you go into really good detail.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I go back and find his episode on the Joe
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Rogan episode, but he'll probably do it on here too.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: You just an awesome job explaining like how you got
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: into visualizing and how, like I want to say, you
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: lost like three in a row and you started to
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: take on the mental training and the visualization aspect before
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: that third loss, and then you had to you know,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: continue to believe in and keep going about it. Talk
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: about the law of attraction, your visualization, how you got
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: into that.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: And how you still used it to this day.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I mean, for me, I think I
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: just took my I took my self image, my self worth,
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: my confidence. I took it for granted, you know. And
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: I think I think, just like anything, if you take
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: if you take a certain muscle group for granted, you
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: don't work on it, it's going to atrophy, it's going
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: to it's going to to not be one of your
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: strengths anymore. But yeah, so back to that, I lost
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: three fights in it. I went six hundred and eighty
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: eight days without a win. You know, so your book
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: that you're gonna ride day six hundred eight days, man,
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: and it's going to be, you know, a catchy title,
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: And what is it behind it? I mean essentially, you know,
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: I grew up wrestling, and if I lost a wrestling match,
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: I knew it was only four days, three days, seven
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: days or the same day or same day until I
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: can get get it back, get back on the winning track.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: But when you got six months between the fight or
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: you just you know, I just got to knock down,
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: drag out war. I lost my title. I'm bleeding all
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: over the place. I'll show you guys a picture like
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: that picture.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: This is awesome.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: Just both eyes swollen. Shutup my lips. Are turned inside out, bleue,
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: four or five sets of stitches, probably a concussion, and
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: I'm limping back to my hotel room and for some reason,
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: that self doubt just came in.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: No, well, and that's what it was.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: I think so so so many times, especially in today's society,
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: we hear what other people are saying and we try
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: to block it out. But then one small thing happens
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: and it triggers that that water all of negativity. Immediately,
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: it was Michael, I knew you weren't as good as
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: you thought you were. You know, I knew you weren't
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: as good as they said you were. I knew they
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: were right. I knew the haters were right. I knew
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: this was right. I knew you were just a phony.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: You're a small guy from from a small town of Missouri.
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: What are you doing, you know, making a bunch of
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: money and making a bunch of money and being on
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: the bright lights and being this like celebrity fighter guy.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: You're a phone, you know. And that's what happened. And
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: then that led to another loss and another loss, and
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: I saw sports psychologist and I started just I started
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: to just actually look at my mental training like it
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: was me going to the to the gym and sparring,
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: or me going to the gym and lifting weights. It
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: was a part of it. And so now, I mean
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: the mental game between the years is now pretty much
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: half of my training. You know. When I'm down in
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: Florida by myself, I mean, I spend you know, an
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: hour or two a day, whether it's reading, whether it's
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: watching different fights or whatnot, or just sitting there in
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: silence visualizing being able to be in the fight before
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: I actually get to the fight. And I mean, I
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: think that's that's one thing that's one of the greatest
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: advices I will ever give to a young athlete or
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: just even a young person in general. Don't take your confidence,
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: your self image, your self worth, which is your greatest asset.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: Your self image is your greatest asset because a human
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: being cannot consistently perform in a manner that is inconsistent
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: with the way that he sees himself. So if you
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: don't see yourself as a champion, you may be a
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: champion for a second. You may be a champion for
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: a week, a month, a year, but eventually it's going
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: to catch up with you. If you don't truly, truly
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: believe it in your heart of hearts. So yeah, for anybody,
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: don't take your self image, your self worth, your your
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: confidence in yourself for granted, because eventually it will wane
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: if you're not working.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: On it, and you might not ever be a champion.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Like we were on the one with Ben Newman and
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I was kind of talking about standard over feelings, and
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: you're right in your standard. Like for me personally, it
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: was like, what is will confident as a Pro Bowl linebacker?
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Like I haven't been a Pro Bowl linebacker, but there's
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: no there's no reason I should believe anybody. Just because
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not one doesn't mean I shouldn't be telling myself
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: I am one and be working towards that every day.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: You should be not shooting for the you know, the stars,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: so to speak, all the time in your life and
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: not talk to yourself that way because you want something
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: so bad and you.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Might not ever hit it.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: But the moments when say you're not hitting those plateaus
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: and you're not hitting those results, you're saying you're still
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: gonna use that same process and carry it back over
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: to the next year and the next year, and then
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: when you're doing something else in life. You carry it
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: over to that thing, how are you the best in
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: that world? And you might not ever fucking be the
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: best in that world, but you should always aspire to
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: be something that you are fearful when you're saying it
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: to yourself, Like, Okay, like when I'm saying I'm a
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: pro bowl.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Is there a doubt in my mind that I ever
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: think I'm gonna be a pro bowler? Fuck? Yeah, there is, dude.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: It's like, will should you really tell yourself that you're
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: gonna be a pro bowler when you know you're probably
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: not gonna be? But hey that at that moment, don't
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: fucking talk to yourself like that? Yeah, Like you just
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: you gotta brainwash yourself, man. And I think that's awesome.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: It is true, and it's and it's just like anything,
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: you you gotta wear it. You gotta wear it down,
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: wear it down, wear it down, and eventually you wear
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: down that little guy inside you. I mean, for me,
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: it's a it's a small guy from a small town.
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: Didn't have hair on my armpits. So I was twenty
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: one years old, so I was like like one of
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: the but like all of that, you know that that
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: was my identity. That's who I was. And you know,
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: that little guy is still in there, and I have
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: to beat him over the head every single day because
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: he creeps up in every single area in my life.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: If I want to be the best fighter in the
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: best athlete, and the best father and the best husband,
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: that that little guy is going to keep creeping up
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: in there and you just have to wear him down,
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: you know. So it's it's it's a constant repetition every
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: day and waking up and just beating that little dude
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: over the head.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: No doubt, because you you've you've been at the top,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: I mean three Pro Bowls, like you guys are at
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: the ZOB Like I'm sure it happens still all the time.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Dude. We were talking the other day about the mad rating.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that doesn't matter.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: That's huge.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Is the thing that motivates me a lot. Like obviously
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: my family helps me a lot. All those things you
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: touched on definitely helps me. But a big thing is
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: people that doubt you is such a It can be
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: such a motivating factor if you if you let it,
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: do it in the right way. Like when people say, oh,
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: you're you're terrible at this terrible at that, like you
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: still have that when you talk about that little guy
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: in your head that's still in your head sometimes saying yeah,
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: you're not that good of a left tackle, like you
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: well Madden rated.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: You this where you're you're that? Like what about these
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: and s gears?
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: So you got beaten practice, You're probably can get beat
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: in the game and all those different things. But as
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: soon as someone says a similar thing that I do
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: and do in my brain, I'm automatically that you have
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: fuck that guy. They have no idea who the fuck
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: I am, and I can like I can handle of it.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: And but like that is a huge thing that I
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: had to learn as well. And it's it's so important
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: because brains and muscles just like anything else. And to
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: sit there and I have there's a book I read
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: all the time. It's for the Four Agreements anybody. That's
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: an amazing book I read every year for the past
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: three years, and it just talks about like the four principle,
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: four key principles, and one of those principles to be impeccable.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: With your work.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: Like everything you say you're gonna do, just do it
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: and and and make sure you stay on top of
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: those things, and the more you live a life that
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: if you it's very simple, if you just live a
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: life that you're not a shiite like you know, and
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: people wouldn't be ashamed of you, even nothing to worry about.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: I don't have anxiety because I live my life exactly
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: how I want to live my life, and I know
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: exactly way I'm I'm the same person when I'm here
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: as when I'm in the football field as when I
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: go home. And it can be a lot for some
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: people to sometimes as I'm.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: A high energy dude.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: But it's like you have to put the investment into
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: first love yourself. That's it's the hardest thing to do
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: and the easiest thing to say, because if I ask
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: you who your top five favorite people in this world,
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: the first person you should start with is always well, me,
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: and then my wife, and then my daughter, and then
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: but my best friend Nick, and then you know, and
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: then well, but it's those, it's it's those, it's those
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: key principles that you have to keep talking to yourself.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: And anytime it's funny to me, I watch people that
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: are like that ship on themselves for humor, and it's like,
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: that's good and I think that's that's not good. It's hilarious.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, if you keep saying something,
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: whether it's a joke or others, that's the old saying
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: is a truth into every joke.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: And so it's okay to do that sometimes.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: But it's more important than anything else, is the one
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: love yourself, read constantly, and just do the right thing.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: Those are I mean, people talk about religion all the time,
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: like you got like you know, if you go look
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: at any different religion, whether it's Christian and Catholicism, you know, Buddhists,
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: all that different stuff. The all the main principles is
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: just be cool to people, be nice to people, treat
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: people the way you want to be treated. Don't like
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: kill people. That's probably a big one. Take care of
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: your body, you know those things like you only want
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: to put things in your body that are going to
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: help you. That's why I don't go to McDonald's or Rby's.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: I can't.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: I can't eat that shit even when I'm done playing.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: It's just not something you want to do. It's because
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: that those are things that you put in your body
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: and it's gonna it's gonna fuck with your brain as well.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: And it's still it's a crazy vicious circle that we,
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: especially in America, get in because you know, America is
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: such a such a bubble, and if you take ten
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: steps outside of here. My wife's from Canada, I go
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: up there, it's a completely different world. Things are slower,
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: there's no there's a bunch of not a bunch of shit,
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: and even the fast food there because it's not allowed.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: You know, you go down to South America, even Europe,
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: like it's just a different world. But America lives in
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: this crazy bubble that we think your shit doesn't stink,
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: you're perfect. Everyone here is perfect and it's not. But
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: it's like people are so masked by whether it's.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Social media or you know, I'm gonna I'm an American
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: and this, that and the other. It's it's really important
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: to like, you got to look inward.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: And so anytime I like, he goes with life too,
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: not just with sports, but if I have an issue
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: with somebody, you know, if I'm in a bad place mentally,
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: I'll go off on that person. But then I'll take
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: a couple of minutes fifteen twenty minutes later, I'm sitting
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: there and I'm like, well, fuck, I had nothing to
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: do with him, Like it's all it's always yourself, yeah,
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: because everything is controllable, you know, and it's just it
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: becomes a vicious circle and I ram away too much.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: That well, I mean you're you're saying it all and
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: you you you were saying it too. It's sitting with yourself,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: learning about yourself and also who you surround yourself with
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: and what you surround yourself.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: That's a big one. That's a really big one.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Like sometimes like I'll be around Taylor and the dude
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: he's so intentional on all the things he does.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Like he was speaking real.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Quick, I hat a tink it always yeah, so to
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: so a train and wouldn't be busting with the boys
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: podcast that all train go on nice.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: So around Taylor and he's so intentional with stuff sometimes
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: to where you know, he'll talk about I want to
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: be the greatest left tackle to ever play, and I'll
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: sit there, I'm like it'll kind of like reaffirm me
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: that I should be thinking in ways that are remind
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: me to think that way again or continue to repeat,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: like don't let this little guy say something, or let
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: the good one on your shoulder on the other shoulder,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: talk to you that way that Taylor's out here talking
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: and being confident all the time, because this dude is
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: he's so confident to you know, he's very confident to where.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: It rubs off.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: But you rub you're around, you got to have a friend.
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: You have to have a friend, like you have to.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Like and he brings up books like four Agreements. He
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: put me on that I think fourth four Agreements and
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: fifth Agreement. I forget who write them, but we should.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: We should figure out who wrote those books. But those
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: are those are awesome, But it is it's who you
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: surround yourself with because again, you're gonna be in those
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: times or you're in the gym and you're just talking
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: to yourself, like you'll go from the best in the
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: world to like, maybe I'm losing a step.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and now you know, people like.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: Peak like all that. Yeah, and people ask that, hey,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: are you still in shape?
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Like to play ball?
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: And I'm just thinking to myself, Yeah, I'm in fucking
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: phenomenal shape. And I don't know if I that's the
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: answer they're wanting to hear. But I feel that way
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: even though I'm fucking you know, twenty nine going on
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: thirty and have been at this peak in my career,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: but I know, like you can find another peak given
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: the opportunity.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, and it all goes back to reputation, right
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: I What I realized is the most important thing to
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: me in my entire life was my reputation. Not exactly
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: what people thought of me, but knowing that people looking
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: at me and say, man, that guy's reliable, that guy's
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: a good dude. He does he tries to do the
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: right things. He loves his family, he loves this, he
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: loves that. And then more the more I realize, the
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: older I get, the more I realize the greatest reputation
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: is the one that I have with myself.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: You're right.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: So, just like what you were talking about, whether it
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: be making the wrong decisions with what you're eating or
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: making the wrong decisions with who you're surrounding yourself with,
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: when you're doing those things that are kind of self
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: they're self loathing without even really feeling like without without
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: even really knowing it. You're doing things that you know
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: you're not supposed to be doing right whenever you and
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: it goes back to being a good person when you
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: when you're when you do something that is outside of
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: having good character. Whether you win or lose or gain
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: from that experience, you're losing no matter what, because because
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: you're actually doing something opposite of what the human soul
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: was created to do. I think we were you know,
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: the age ol debate of our humans inherently evil or
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: they inherently good. So it can be debated, right, but
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: I think I think we're all inherently good and we
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: just get corrupted by this outside world, all people that
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: we surround ourselves with. And that's that's always been the
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: most important thing to me, who I surround myself with,
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: and having trying to have a ridiculously almost annoyingly confident
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: friend or the guy that you look at you're like,
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: did I wish I had a quarter of that?
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: And like Ben Askern was that for me?
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Man?
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: I mean the dude was undefeated until you know, just
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago for a reason. I mean,
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: the dude and he was actually one of the most
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: untalented men I've ever been around in my entire life.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: Like I came in as a freshman, he was no no,
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying physically, I mean, like, do you look
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: at the dude, and he's actually making a gimmick out
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: of it. He's like, he talks about his dad, bod
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: and that kind of stuff. He does not look like
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: a professional athlete competing at the highest level, yet between
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: his ears, I've never met a more confident person. You
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: have to have a person, a couple of those people
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: around you, because they're just going to level you up,
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: you know, no.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Doubt before we get into the next level. Let's go,
• 44:36
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• 44:51
  Speaker 4: just kidd what a little bit really I'm with Willis
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• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Actually I actually was still little bit with Chase, but
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: mostly will Fargo.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: There you go, there's your uh. There's the book Galleries
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: That guy's awesome.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: He's got he's got another book about love. It's The
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: Love Agreement or something like that. It's all it's really
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: good and it talks about the foe agreements.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: In that book. There's another book called the Uh it's the.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Links the Art of War. Art of War.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: That's an amazing book.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: I'm reading a book right now called Ego is the
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: Enemy because, like myself, I don't know how much George
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: football or even the Tennessee Tians or anything like that,
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: but it doesn't really matter.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: He was supposed to going to a game last year.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: I got him a silie passed and he said, hey, man,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: got your satellite pass. He takes back, thanks, and then
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: gave me the middle finger.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Never showed up middle middle finger. Okay, thanks, appreciate.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: I thought you nevers, but he made it for this season.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: They're coming out of season, hopefully coming out.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get you. Sideline passed.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: You and Wilkinsons to each other. We got a oh
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: my god, we gotta But anyway, it's all about confidence, right.
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: Yes, exactly.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: What's all about building people up around with you?
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: No, but going back, I'm reading a book right now
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: called Ego is the Enemy And how much like the
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: ego can really like debilitate you in life.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: And uh, it's kind of taught.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: Me a lot because I've always been very like vocal
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: on the field, very loud, like I'm a big chirper
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: I talk about the ship very ego. That's awesome, very
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: very ego a lot, And I'm still going to do
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: those things, but it's really important.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Like sometimes, like you guys gotta still laughing about there, um.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Trying to get serious now then they're still living at
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: that joke was actually Marcos.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Goddamn Marcos.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Just take pictures and stuff fucking laughing.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: By the time this episode drops, I'm gonna fucking be somewhere.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: Ball linebacker dem Is Gain. How about you two twenty?
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: I knew that.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: Seventy pounds you could be the best left card in
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: the league. How's all you six two?
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Say your six to one, you'd be the best center
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: in the league.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Dude, dude, I'm smart as fuck. I could easily do
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Yes, Senner, you gotta be really really smart to do Yeah.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, in all these books, guys, the links will be
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: in the YouTube bio and shit like that, so you
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: guys can find it.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: What you so you watch, guys like you watch? Was
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: Connor I first UFC fight ever went to.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: For our first fight, I will say I ever went
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: to was Connor McGregor versus ideas the first one. Oh, dude,
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: I was the guy Richie and Coda in Vegas and
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: we went in there. It was me, my wife who
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: was my girlfriend at the time. We just met in
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: Richie and he took us this fight and he was like,
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: you got to look up this conn McGregor guy. He's
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: in the same So I started watching him and he
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: talks so much shit, so much he's getting it, just
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: getting after its in dude's heads, knocking dudes out, going
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: up wey classes, knocking dudes out, like it's just just
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: killing people. And I watched an Adist fight. He lost
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: an Adis fight. A year later, he fights in eight
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: d's again in August and wins. It was like a
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: split decision right at the end, and then he goes.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: He just keeps talking shit, and he he literally talks
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: himself into this boxing match against Mayweather and fights him,
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: doesn't stand a chance, but actually does a good job.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Boxing for the first few rounds. Loses that.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: A year and a half later fights could be loses that,
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: and it's like you start to look at him and
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: the way he operates, and he literally used his mouth
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: as a business like he talked himself into every single
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: one of those things. And now he's got a whisky
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: that I haven't tried yet.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: I've heard it's it's good. Okay. So I have two.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: Opinions now, one DC one of when one not so
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: and he's he's like killing it. His whiskey is all
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: over the place.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: It's it's unbelievable.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: So like, do you ever did you ever look at
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: him or look at fighters like him and think to yourself, Hey,
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: that might not be me. But from my business standpoint,
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: I can you lay a lot of these things to
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: either get clicks, my name, get out there more, get
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: a big fight, maybe get a Bellator versus UFC championship
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: fight or something like that.
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there's that that part of the business.
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: And and the guy who kind of originated with Chill
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: Soning back in the day, and the originator of at least,
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: you know, talking themselves into fights that they shouldn't have
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: been in, and Connor did. Connor's now done the best
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: at it as far as lucrative, lucrative whise making as
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: much money as possible and then spending off in the brands.
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: But I think I have But I also know it's hard.
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: It's hard when the message that you want to put
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: out there is the opposite of that, you know, and
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: that's that's where my cognitive dissonance came in, as far
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: as not my values actually not lining up with the
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: situation at hand. And I've done it a little bit.
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: I've talked a little bit of trash, and it just
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: it doesn't it doesn't come natural to me. It's not
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: who I am. I'd rather, you know, I'd rather do.
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: I'd rather be more positive or more inspirational than you know,
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: kind of coming at people. And there's been other guys
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: like a guy like Randy Gatour Randy gatur Will is
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: a Hall of Famer and he'll be known as one
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: of the greatest fighters of all time, fought into his
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: forties and he never talked trash. Gsp never talked trash.
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: So there's the other guys who have who have done
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: just as well and arguably could have made more money
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: if it was right now in twenty nineteen than Connor did.
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: But Connor also had Connor got taken care of because
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: he had a whole country behind him. You know. I
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: was just I was just at a party last night
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: with a guy who DJs for Jason Alden. So he
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: he does the DJ thing right before Jason Alden goes out,
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: and we were talking about how he's in Vegas almost
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: every weekend. He was there for two of the Connor fights,
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: and the whole you probably noticed, the whole city turns
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: out a little Ireland, right, you know, And they got
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: the Tricolor flags all over everywhere. These people in Ireland,
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: who probably didn't have much money, saved up for an
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: entire year to get those those flights came over staying
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: in the hostels like trying to like, you know, just
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: to watch their their sportsman, you know. So he it
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: was a perfect storm of everything. Everything he was doing,
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: everything he was saying, and he was winning.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: I always said, he's not as good as he thinks
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: he is, but he's better than other people think he is.
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of us said, oh, he's not
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: that good, but he's better than we thought he was.
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: But he's not quite as good as he thinks he is.
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: But that mental game is no joke, man, that mental
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: game he did have people broken before they even stepped
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: into the cage of them.
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: So you don't you don't think he's like the best,
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: like one of the best ever to do it, like
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: do you think if he, if he took the time,
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: didn't just from a talent perspective, right South Paul, everything
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: I hear is this guy's got this unique skill set,
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: the way he moves his body and all that. Do
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: you think if he just focused on the nuts and
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: bolt of being a UFC fighter, MMA fighter, then branding
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: and focusing on other stuff, do you think it could
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: have gone a different way where you we be have
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: a different conversation.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: If you're saying, yeah, maybe he is one of the
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: best of all time.
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, I mean I think that's I think I
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: think any of us can do that, though I mean
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: any of us. I mean you have to have a
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: certain level of skill level, level of talent, level of ability.
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: But I mean him from his his physical attributes. Yes,
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: he has a long, tall southpaw. For the for the
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: for the weight class, the one fifty five, he was
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: at one forty five before and he's got up to
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: one seventy, and he went up to one seventy by
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: the way, and fought another one fifty five or so.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: They went up a weight class, but they were both
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: one fifty five or so. They essentially fought the same guy. Yeah,
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: he would have fought at one fifty five, so because
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: that was a big thing, and they did a great
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: job market at it, you know, like going up a
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: weight class, you know, and all that kind of stuff.
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: But I mean what I will say is he has
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: it because really, like we just talked about, ninety percent
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: of being the greatest in the world is between the ears,
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: you know. I mean, when it comes to physical attributes,
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: he's got enough of it. When it comes to the power,
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: he's definitely got enough of that. And when it comes
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: to the confidence, he's definitely got that in droves. I
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: think he just he ran into kabeb Kabebe has never
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: lost could be.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like and he literally was born in Chernobyl.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: You knew that. No, in the radio he was he's
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: all fucked.
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: He's uh yeah, I mean he's he's as close to
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: unstoppable as as you have seen.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: And we will make a couple unstoppable. He's just so
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: locked in.
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: Well, he just it's there's a there's a certain rule
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: set that we play by, and it's striking and it's
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: scrappling and and there's a mixture of everything, and there's
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: a there's a time clock and and and those a
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: lot of amount of times. He doesn't finish a lot
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: of guys. He really finishes very few of his fights.
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: But he's able to pick guys up, put him down,
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: be on top of him, hold a wrist, and just
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: punch him for for twenty twenty five minutes, fifteen minutes,
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: for as long as he wants to. He's probably gonna
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: do the same thing to Dustin Pooria here in September
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: and Abu Dhabi he did it. And his you know,
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: his last his last fight to Connor, the fight before
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: the fight before that. You know, he we saw some
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: chinks in his armor against Ala Aquinta, but that was
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: a crazy fight where he got switched the night before,
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: so I think he wasn't mentally there. But the sport,
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: it's just funny because when you really break the sport
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: down into just the nuts and bolts of it, it's
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: it's a very it's a very simplistic sport. And if
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: you can become really good at a certain skill set
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: that guys that even when guys prepare for it, they
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: can't stop it, You're you're going to be successful. And
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: that's what he's done, you know, barring barring any knockouts
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: or you know, like me, the flash, knockout, knock down,
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: whatever you want to call it. That kind of stuff happens,
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: or crazy split decisions where the refs, you know, the
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: refs called the fight the other way. So it's just
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: a crazy sport he's for him to go in the
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: feed it for as long as he has is nothing
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: short of amazing. So I would never take anything away
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: from him. He's just very good at grappling, wrestling and
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: punch of people.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: You're to call the malls that we want you to fight.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: I always take it.
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I think, well, I think that's the greatest
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: fight for me because I think I can out wrestle him.
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: I also think I also think I have better cardio
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: than him. I also think he's but it's hard for me.
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: It's hard for me to go there because I've said
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: I I can be, could be before, But then people say,
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: well they why don't you come prove it in the
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: UFC And it's like, Okay, well, I don't want to
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: take a pay cut to go fight could be. You know,
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: I don't want to.
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: I don't want to have all this all this risk
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: and what if bellatur and UFC got together. Have they
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: ever have they ever talked about joining, not joining, but
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: maybe like doing a dual fight, like here our guy
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: versus your guy.
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they kind of each other.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: I don't hate each other. It's probably it's a business.
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: It's a business.
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: And any business like if i'm you know, your Apple
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: and Microsoft or something like that or whatever, it's like
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: it's kind of yeah, you're you're your competition.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true.
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: Well it well number one, I will say it is
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: a possibility because if it makes money, it makes sense.
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: And in this in this industry, right in any industry,
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: if if if they knew they could make a billion
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: dollars on a pay per view because they have all
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: the fight, all the best fighters on the fit on
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: the same card, they would probably do it. But the
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: problem is there's there's a lot of risk involved for
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: the UFC. If if I came over and beat Matt
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: to meat kabib Or, and then if our one seventy
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: pounder came over and beat the ones pound and then
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: Bellotour wins a couple of those fights, the UFC all
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: of a sudden loses their little notch of the greatest organization.
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: With the greatest fighters and.
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: Bellotour the UFC have the money to be like, hey,
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: come come fight for us and money they do, but
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: they do, but they don't.
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: They don't need to. And that's and that's the thing
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: I mean. And and I'm and I'm I'm self aware
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: enough to realize I'm not I'm not a huge draw either.
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: There's guys, there's guys that have been in the UFC
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: who have barely cracked the top ten who may have
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: a bigger name than me in that UFC crowd and
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: the bigger mainstream crowd.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: The amount of guys that have been in the UFC
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: and and gotten great followings and and in great respect
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: in the sport, but are very very subpar fighters is
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: just mind blowing just because they fought in the UFC
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: under the UFC banner. But it's it's it's the nature
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: of our sport. In ten years from now, it will
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: be I think it'll be a lot different. I think
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: there'll be other organizations like Bellotour coming in. One FC
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: is now growing, you know, there's gonna be another organization
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: come in with probably a big a lot of money,
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: a lot of backing, and uh, it's going to just
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: keep keep happening. And competition is always good. You know,
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: competition is.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of fighters out there too.
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot. I mean there's enough fighters to
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: to be you know, you got Pro Fight League. Pro
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: Fight League is. You know, they have a million dollar tournament.
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: If you win, like you know, six fights or whatever,
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: you get a million dollars or however that works. But
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: you know they're doing you know they're doing they're doing
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: their thing.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Does Beltre still do that tournament style that you're talking
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: about the three fights in three months and ship like that.
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: They do a tournament, but now it's more like three
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: fights over a year. God, which is which is still cool?
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: Remember one yeah no weight classes. Yeah, your guys are
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: going in there wearing GE's no no weight classes.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Huge tournament and it was all done but in a
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: in in like a weekend, right yeah, well in one night.
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: They used to have a fight a couple of times
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: in one night too, I mean yeah, it's it's crazy, man. Yeah,
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: So they did it. They did it in Belotour a
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: couple of years ago. Or it was a four man
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: tournament two fights in two nights or to you know,
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: each guy fought two fights and two nights. Yeah, so
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: who knows. I mean, it's the entertainment business.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you get your ass knocked up a little
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: bit all that. What's okay? You get knocked out? What's
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: what's a concussion protocol for you guys in the UFC
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: or not?
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: So I keep saying UFC, I'm sorry, that's just mixed
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: martial arts next martial mm A.
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: You know, trust me, trust me, Like five years ago,
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: it would it would have bothered me. But I know
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: that I've made the right decision, you know, Like that's
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: that's the thing. I know. I know that I've made
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: the right decision.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: The UFC is just a lack of the how much intelligence,
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: like I educated myself, but also you know, fight exactly
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: but any of that stuff.
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: But also kudos to the uf C for branding the
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: u f C to make people think, because people say,
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: what's is is that? Like uf is that like UFC?
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: Is it like m m A?
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: And I'm like it is m m A. You know,
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: just like you guys play football in the NFL, I
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: fight mixed martial art. It's in bellot or in UFC.
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: What was your question again?
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: It was like it's like it's like cushion, it's like
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: cleanexxally Q tip exactly.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Kleenex is like the best branding company of all time,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: greatest look it.
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: Up concussion protocol. So so we always get so so
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: bellotoor UFC, these fight promotions don't actually govern themselves. They
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: are governed by the boxing commissions. So my last fight
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: was the Illinois State Athletic Commission or Boxing commission, so
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: they will suspend you. So depending on no matter what,
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: if you win your fight, you're going to get a
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: seven day or probably a fourteen day suspension that says
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: you can't fight in fourteen days, which you shouldn't be anyway.
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: But when you lose a fight, it's pretty much like
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: an automatic thirty day. If if it's a TKO loss
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: or something like that, it's an automatic sixty day, no contact,
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: no nothing, which is it's only two months. I mean
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: you should definitely be taking two months off. If you
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: get knocked out or TKOT or whatnot.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: You really exercise or anything during that No, you're allowed to.
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: You just you just cannot get a it's SAI like
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: you can't be licensed in any other state. So I
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: could go spar the next day. If I wanted to,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: I can go get in a stryified if I wanted to,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: I can go do whatever I wanted to. But until
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: that sixty days suspension is lifted, I can't get another
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: I can't go to Nevada and get a boxing license
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: to box or or fight because because I am currently suspended.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: Just the same thing with like, if I failed a
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: drug test, that would be suspended for two years under
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: the you know whatever sanction, and I wouldn't be able
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: to get a sanction anywhere else in any other state,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: or you know, flagrantly whenever it could be jumped out
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: of the cage and drop kick that guy during the
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: CONIFI Like he got suspended, so he Nevada suspended his
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: license for X amount of days, he wasn't able to
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: get another license in any other state to compete until
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: that suspension was lifted.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: Damn, that's crazy shit.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: You thought about starting a podcast on your own?
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: I have?
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm a book, are you have you started
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: on the book six hundred and eighty eight days now?
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: I mean I've I've gotten a little journal stuff here.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: I mean I journal a lot and kind of write
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: some stuff down because I mean, one of the biggest
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: things is just forgetting.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: The great thing is I got I got a brother
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: who who like my brother and I live together for years.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: Like he can recall memories, remember that time, this and
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: that and the other thing, and I can ask no question.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: He'll go off on a tangent. So I think he
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: will be my ghost writer, or at least my ghost
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: remember of all this stuff. Right yeah, I mean a book.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: I would love to do, a podcast. I'd love to
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: do some I'd love to do online training. I'd actually
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: love to be I'd love to be the guy who
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: who teaches or informs the young mixed martial arts fighters.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: Because just like the NFL, now there was five year
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: old kis who want to be in the NFL day someday.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: Now there's five year old kids, six year old kids
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: and their parents who want to see their kid come
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: up and become mixed martial artists. Right right, These these
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: kids need guidance, they need they need a way to go.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: How do you get a manager, How do you get sponsors?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: How do you how do you decide to take how
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: do you choose between organizations? How do you choose the
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: right gym? How do you choose the right coach, how
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: do you do this?
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: How do you do that?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: And just educating kids and just be able to I know,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: I've been given a lot of gifts, so I want
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: to be able to.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: To pass that.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: BA. Yeah. Yeah, you have your own gym right Yeahshville
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: here in Nashville.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so do we should go? We should go train
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: there one day.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: What's name of the gym?
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: Training camp? Training camp? So? Yeah, so we we do
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: ten thousand square foot facility. We're right right down the
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: road from you guys stadium on the right by the
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: go karts and all that on David story. Yeah, so
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: we ten thousand square feet. We have thirty five hundred
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: square foots a roller rubber turf for group fitness and
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: personal training that we have thirty five hundred square foot
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: of mats for boxing, boxing, grappling, all that kind of stuff.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: So that's awesome.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: What's that called training camp in Nashville?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Right about? What about recovery?
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: Recovery? Man? I mean, now that I'm on the other
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: side of thirty, recovery is so important. I'm on my
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: roller every day. I Uh, I get bodywork every day. Uh.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: Supplementation when it comes to you know. So every day
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: I'm I'm waking up and I'm drinking. I'm drinking uh
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: Cover three, which is a brain supplement for my brain.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: It's all the all the anti inflammatories, antioxidants, omega's d
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: p A, e h A, all that stuff you need
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: for your rain for y'all that are getting hit and
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: met me as well, b C. As I saw one
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: protein and then just a just a ton of downtime
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: and realizing that if I can work smarter rather than
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: harder all the time, because I mean we I get
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: beat up just like you guys. You guys are going
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: to fight for eight seconds every single play, right, So
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: just just recovering now that I'm on this side of thirty.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: What what else are there? Anything else do you do?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: Like red light therapy or a cryo or anything like that.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: I have a I have an infrared sauna that I've
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 5: been that I like. Yeah, my wife got me that
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: for U for my birthday. So that's cool. We got
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: that in my basement, so I'll do that. I'm working
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: on getting a cold tub because I like like cold tub.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: Cold tubs, red do you mean like real start trying it?
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: Plumbing down and everything to have one like in your house.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: As far as the cold cold tub, I would love
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: to do that. I think I'll probably just get a
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: deep freezer or like one of those.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: I wanted to trying to supply company. Get one of
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: those tubs.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta get a big one.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: And sixty bucks. That's really.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, this is a legit to like a trough.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: You got nice and you just but I still I
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: fll up with water the gas station, get like five.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: Bags of ice, man, put it in there. I go ahead.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: I had infer its on up my place too. Had
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: a concept to rower, So I'll try to hit the rower.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: You have to hit the sauna and then go after.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: And see how many it how many grams of like
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: fish oil or BCA's.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Are you super into that? Are you kind of just.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not into like the actual you know, milligrams
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: of this. I mean one thing. I actually just when
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: I was at the Damatized headquarters, I sat down with
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: the chief science officer and he was talking about the
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: the RDA of all of these different supplements, which is
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: recommended daily allowance or whatever. It's all very very very low.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: It's essentially when we read you know when we read
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: you know, the minimums of what we should be taking
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: of all these supplements, it's just enough to to not
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: get like a exactly. So I pretty much double everything.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, they got kril oil in the morning, you
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: bick one all co q ten uh, carnetine? Do you ribos?
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: A lot of that stuff has to just do with
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: the brain getting the body going. I hired a coach
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: out of California. Yeah, he's called the Training Lab. It's
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: a Sam Calavita. He's a he's a science teacher by
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: by trade, or no, sorry, a math teacher. He's a
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: mathematician by by that's his profession. But he's just a
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: he's a big time endurance athlete coach. So he does
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: iron Man's himself. So, I mean, the older I get
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: trying to break the body down to a cellular molecular
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: level and try to realize that if you treat the
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: body the way that it was it was designed, that
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: it will give you much much more, you know, And
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: if I can just get one extra year of fighting,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: that's a nice chunk of change for my family. So
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: being able to prolong that as much as possible.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: What do you think about doctors saying, like I've heard,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: I've had doctors tell me that, oh, the only you
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: don't need to take supplements, what you need to do
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: is as much rest as possible and eat right.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's rubbish. I think, no offense the doctors,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: but I think I I don't even listen to doctors
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: much these days. Like if if I got an orthopedic problem,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: I will listen to a doctor. If I gotta, if
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: I have like a cardiac problem, if I have a
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: heart of problem, I'm listening to a doctor.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: But it has to be a very specific but general
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: general doctor.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah but sorry, yeah, mds. And it's just it's just
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, my wife will tell you too. She she
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: took the medical route. She was a physician assistant, so
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: like she she crushes it in the e er so
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: we're savannahbielt Er and all that kind of stuff. So
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: she's but she even understands that the way that they
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: are trained, it's just it's just to treat the symptoms
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: and not make them make people more healthy human beings,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: not the calls. Not get to the room of everything.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: So I mean I'm more of like a I mean,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: some people can get out there and kind of weird
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: but homeopathic kind of doctors, like the the Eastern type
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: of medicine stuff, the roots, the you know, the Yeah,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: so that's what that's what I take every morning. It's
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: it's actually a company based out of California, and it's
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: got kirk Human trans trans res veratal alpha GPC all
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: these anti and it's an anti inflammatories, especially for the brain,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: just to increase the neuroplasticity.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: Flamatory is the biggest thing, right, like especially joint elf
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: and his biggest cancer.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, crazy freaking lots and lots of milligrams and turmeric
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: or cuman and all that kind of stuff which never
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: too much.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: Right you in there.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: I mean if you if you pee out out, you
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: pee it out, you pee it out, who cares at
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: least at least you you put a buffalo. It's like
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: my pee is orange.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: Cuman pills.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: I take every day, man, And if I'm wearing like
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: a white pair of shorts, I'll I'll take you. I'll
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: wipe my hands and then halfway the dead be looking like,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: you know, I have orange spots on my pants.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: You know it's to washes.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: I know you have you ever like got the extra
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: root and cut it up and like put it in
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: either so you can you can buy the room the.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: Whole foods, right, the turmeric root itself.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 5: So I'll get them and I juice them. I have
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: like a certain juice RECIPI U. I like. I like
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: two American turmerican ginger.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: It's acquired, kind of weird.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: I just take them and just chew on them. No,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: but you know, and if you cut if you cut
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: them up, you get that orange on your hands and
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: then he doesn't get set there for twenty four hours.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: If when a doctor says that, or people say that
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: because it's easy to say, because it's easy to shame people.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: You should be eating better and you don't need supplements.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: It's easy to do that. But it's just not it's
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  Speaker 5: not very practical, right, you know what I mean? And
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: especially with what we do, we need way more protein
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  Speaker 5: than is recommended.
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  Speaker 4: Even something as simple as vitamin D. Like, Okay, you
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  Speaker 4: live in Alaska, Okay, well like six months out of
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: the year. It doesn't even sound sunlight like you're gonna
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: need some D.
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  Speaker 3: All right, you live in Nashville. Yeah, you're here. You're
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: a sick o broll. Yeah, I said, I said, you're
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: gonna need that.
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  Speaker 1: In the lines of work.
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  Speaker 2: We do too for vitamin D four players. You know,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: you're banging for what six months out of the year,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: you have m m A.
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  Speaker 1: Guys almost did it, almost swung on it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Guys that are.
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  Speaker 2: Physically exerting themselves all the time, they get deficient and
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  Speaker 2: vitamin D. I want to say, in the NFL, you're like,
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  Speaker 2: I think even the national ranking two, like seventy to
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  Speaker 2: eighty percent of all people are vitamin D deficient. And like,
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  Speaker 2: when I consult with my guy, he puts me on
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  Speaker 2: like ten thousand to twenty thousand VYUD if I'm deficient
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  Speaker 2: in it until I get back to that next blood
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: test and I'm good, then I'll go back down to
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  Speaker 2: like five or ten. But yeah, I'm I feel the
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: same way, like doubling shit and doing stuff where I'm like,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: I thought only on the back of the thing and
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: so to do this, And they're like, oh, that's bullshit. Will, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's how I talk. You're like, oh, that's bullshit, don't
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: listen to that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, It's it's true. I mean, And that's what's great
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  Speaker 5: is in twenty nineteen, you know this day and age,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: there's no reason to not seek out all of this information.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: Seek out these these type of doctors. Seek out. Don't
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: just read what the FDA puts on the back of
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: bottles and read all that that stuff, because yet it's
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: not enough for optimizing human performance. You know, and you
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: guys have access to to a lot of great people.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: Everybody has access to a lot of great people. And
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: we all have access to a lot of great the.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: World wide Web.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, to be able to you know, and some of
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 5: the stuff you read is going to be bs. But
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: a lot of the stuff if you deep, if you
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: dig deep.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: Understand why.
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  Speaker 2: And we're not telling you guys to go to your
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: cathins right now and just start double trip everything with
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: your doctor.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: That's the thing I'm also saying, listen to your doctor.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, I know I can't, I'm as but.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: That's say you know, I just just because I don't
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: listen to it doesn't means give you they put bullshit
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: in your system, give you pills and all this, and
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: it hurts here, Okay, take a viking in and all that.
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  Speaker 3: It's like the same yeah, it goes yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and that's the same thing as you know, the
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 5: treating treating the symptom instead of the actual root problem.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's uh, and a lot of it has
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: to do with diet. When you go when you went
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: back to like why America is failing at health, it's
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: because we have so many options and so many horrible options,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: and the fact that that we can like they're they're
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: able to pump gluten and all these outside agents into
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: everything that we're eating is is kind of a tragedy.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: But yeah, it's all about educating yourself and trying to
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: once again continue to surround yourself with the right people
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 5: who know what they're talking about. Doubt, surround yourself with
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 5: people who help you make the right decisions, no doubt.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: We gotta do run an hour and eight. Where can
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: people Where can people find you? On the web? Anything?
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 5: Social media? I have Michael Chandler dot com is a website.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: I'm not doing a tune with it right now. Instagram
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: is where I do a lot of my speaking to people,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: my workouts, all that kind of stuff at Mike Chandler
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  Speaker 5: m m A. So yeah, so just uh, that's why
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: that's where I do a lot of my stuff and
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: a lot of stuff coming soon, so we'll see.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Well, until you do your podcast, you're You're always more
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: than welcome to come. This is great.
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  Speaker 5: Come sit on the bus, d dude. I'm just sit
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 5: on the bus and watch the show.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Whatever fighters want to be, whatever fighters are like,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: let's just go wrap on the bus man.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I'll I'll do that. I want to win
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: the next show. People are coming in town for dude.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: Are you connected to shap Brendon Shaw? I am.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: I just haven't been out to l A to do
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: his show yet.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's coming out. He'll be out here next weekend
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: for uh Zany's Comedy Club. He's gonna do some stand up. Well,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: he should get on the bus, That's what I'm saying
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: now a video thinking that because the boy you're gonna
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: he'll be in training camp.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not anywhere yet. I'm still waiting on a call,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: patiently waiting. Uh huh.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: But yo, we could run this thing, dude, there you
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: co host. It might be an easier way for it
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: for him to be comfortably. Want to come on, dude,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: that could be cool. We can maybe rocking a app.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: We can rock and we have a rocking app.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: Shoot, I got a dude, I got a bachelor party
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 5: next weekend.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: I think you do. So you'll be out of town.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 5: No, I'll be in town.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's gonna be here in Nashville. Shoot, maybe you
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: get up, will recover one day. You're recover in the morning.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Day. Boys, I gotta fail out for two hours. Drive
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: down the road. Maybe we can.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: Figure something out. But no, it's it's here. Though, it's here,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: he's here. I think it's August first through third. I
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: kind of want to just go see this. I kind
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: of want to just go see a stand up too.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: I'm a big fan of he's good and he's he
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: just started his his podcast with the bon Yeah.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: Pretty, he's got a fighter and the kid and this
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: king and the sting.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: But he'll be out here. I think August first through thirds.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: So well, we should all send him a message.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about it all right out anything else.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: He needs to be on the bus.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: He does need to be on the bus with the
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: merch too. Yeah. There by the way, you can go
• 1:13:31
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• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: buy some merch.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: We got our neon signs, we got our shirts, we
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: got hats by the time this comes out, hats probably
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: be on there.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: Go go buy stuff. Support the boys. Get on this
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: thing with this helps us thing keep moving.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: Get you guys should do your own Vitamin D supplement A.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate you.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys,