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Ian Furness 10/12 H1: Do we have a QB problem? Mike MacDonald speaks and more! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 3: Friday was Saturday. Saturday had to have been Sunday. Yesterday
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  Speaker 3: was just a bonus.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, well, unless you were working.
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  Speaker 3: Or unless you were watching this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was not a bonus either. So, yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: was not good. We got a quarterback problem in our state.
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  Speaker 2: We have a quarterback problem in our state. I'll find
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  Speaker 2: out from Hugh Millen at 1 o'clock with Hardcore Football
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  Speaker 2: what he thinks in terms of our quarterback problems. He
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  Speaker 2: won't have a comment on mine. Mine's wazoo. Our guy's
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  Speaker 2: just a disaster in Pullman and is an embarrassment, to
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  Speaker 2: be honest with you, in how he represents the program.
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  Speaker 2: Washington has a quarterback problem. They may even have a
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  Speaker 2: quarterback controversy, depending on what DeMond's health is.
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  Speaker 4: And although.
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  Speaker 3: You're paying them for something million, right? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: They got other issues, too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just checking the score. I do believe they gave
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  Speaker 2: up a few points to Iowa as well.
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  Speaker 3: Just a few.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: It was just a few.
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  Speaker 2: And, of course, the Seattle Seahawks. This is the number,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll be talking to– I'll ask you about this.
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  Speaker 2: The number that really kind of jumped out at me
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  Speaker 2: with Darnold, his interception percentage is the worst in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. And.
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  Speaker 2: That's not good. And not every interception is the quarterback's fault.
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  Speaker 2: I'm really curious to ask you, from a hardcore standpoint,
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  Speaker 2: about the Arroyo. The one that he was trying to
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  Speaker 2: throw to Arroyo. Who has.
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  Speaker 3: That's when he decided he is Arroyo.
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  Speaker 2: One catch this year.
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  Speaker 3: That's when he decided to.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, was it the route? Was it the throw?
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  Speaker 2: It still goes on Sam. I.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I hate the quarterback controversy, but I
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  Speaker 2: understand why people are yelling for Drew Locke. Darnold's looked awful.
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  Speaker 3: He has not looked good, and Drew looked real good
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  Speaker 3: stepping in. And I'm not saying that that's going to
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  Speaker 3: stay the same. You can't then bring Drew in and
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  Speaker 3: then call for Sam when Drew screws up.
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  Speaker 2: That's a great point. But you've got decisions to make
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  Speaker 2: on those two guys with contracts in the future and
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  Speaker 2: everything else. That's part of the problem. Then the other
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  Speaker 2: part of the problem is the fact that you have
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  Speaker 2: guys putting the ball on the ground that run the football,
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  Speaker 2: and McDonald was none too pleased, nor should he be pleased.
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  Speaker 2: Guys punching the ball out or not. I mean, your
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  Speaker 2: job as a running back is to run with the
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  Speaker 2: football and not to turn it over.
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  Speaker 4: Period.
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  Speaker 2: End of story. And the Helani miscue was just egregious.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely egregious.
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  Speaker 3: I was sitting at my dining room table because I
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  Speaker 3: had a big puzzle, thousand piece puzzle. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I need to do something other than just sit here
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  Speaker 3: and get irritated.
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  Speaker 2: Getting stressed out and pissed off.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So I'm sitting there and then I was like, okay, well,
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  Speaker 3: at least we're almost to the end of the half.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like anything terrible could happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Or the worst thing could happen. The worst. The absolute
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  Speaker 3: worst thing that you would want to happen happened.
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  Speaker 2: We were going into an intermission session. I think it
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  Speaker 2: was the first intermission of the Kraken game. So we're
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  Speaker 2: walking in the studio and they got the stop. They
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  Speaker 2: hit the ball. I'm like, okay, well, be done for
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  Speaker 2: the half, right? We should be good to go. So
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  Speaker 2: I put it on pause and then I'm on the
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  Speaker 2: set and my phone's blowing up, my different text chains
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  Speaker 2: and threads. I'm like, well, what happened? Did I score? Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: somebody scored.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody did, just not the team you thought was going to.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I think it's a good day for
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks fans to vent, to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 4: I agree.
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  Speaker 2: 49451 is the Tacoma Dodge text line, but I love
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  Speaker 2: the voice. Let's get some talkbacks today.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: what have you. But most of you guys know what
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  Speaker 2: we get good texts or talkbacks all the time. Red
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  Speaker 2: microphone on the iHeartRadio app, 93.3 KGRFM part of it.
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  Speaker 2: You'll see the red microphone. You push it. You got
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  Speaker 2: 30 seconds to speak your mind. Vent away today. Vent away.
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  Speaker 3: Consider it a therapy session.
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  Speaker 2: It's, you know, you, you don't mean you may not
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  Speaker 2: have a thousand piece puzzle like Ashley does, but we
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  Speaker 2: got that for you right there. So you can check
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  Speaker 2: that out. Uh, we're just going to be so busy today.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have a show tomorrow. Just a quick programming note.
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  Speaker 2: We do not have a show tomorrow. I got to
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  Speaker 2: check with Lund. We got to get him on this week.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to ditch him. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: hide from him.
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  Speaker 3: No, and that's why I said that last night. I
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  Speaker 3: was like, we can't make it look like because we lost,
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  Speaker 3: we're not having him on. No, we can't do that.
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  Speaker 2: Because he'll make it a thing down in the Bay Area,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't want to deal.
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  Speaker 3: With that nonsense. Yeah, we're going to have him on,
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  Speaker 3: let him gloat, because the last thing we want is
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  Speaker 3: him to ditch us when we kick their butts down there.
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  Speaker 2: And the good news is my friends at Chambers Bay
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  Speaker 2: Distillery are sending him some bourbon. Oh, perfect. So that's good.
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  Speaker 2: He'll get his bourbon, so he'll be fine. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we will get him on. I think we'll try to
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  Speaker 2: shoot for Wednesday. One other programming note, no Funston Thursday
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  Speaker 2: because we have a very short show on Thursday. We
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  Speaker 2: have an even shorter show on Friday, only one hour Friday,
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  Speaker 2: two hours on Thursday. So no Funston on Thursday, no
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  Speaker 2: show tomorrow. So we're going to, as you know, kind
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  Speaker 2: of huddle up after the show today and figure out
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  Speaker 2: what we're doing and how we're doing it, when we're
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  Speaker 2: doing it. But I think today you can vent and
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  Speaker 2: you should vent. Like I said, I think the state
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  Speaker 2: has a quarterback problem. They're all very different.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the DeMond thing. I mean, I'm the perverse.
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  Speaker 2: I can't even enjoy the Huskies getting beat by Iowa
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  Speaker 2: because our team was so bad on Friday night, too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I can't even enjoy it. But I'm curious what Softie
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  Speaker 2: says because I know a lot of people were upset
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  Speaker 2: about DeMond. I'll get back to the Seahawks in a second.
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  Speaker 2: He got hurt and he didn't come back on the field.
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  Speaker 5: Correct.
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  Speaker 4: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't come back out and support his team. 90% of
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  Speaker 2: the time, unless it's just like you're on the way
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  Speaker 2: to the hospital, which maybe he was. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think we would have been told that, though, I
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  Speaker 2: would assume. Yeah, he didn't come back and be with
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  Speaker 2: the teammates. I mean, that's just– what it does, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: the visuals, the optics of it, you know, you reiterate
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  Speaker 2: the disconnect between him and the team and wanting to
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  Speaker 2: leave and all that stuff and whatever. Again, they have
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  Speaker 2: other issues. The offensive line is bad. I can relate
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  Speaker 2: to that in Pullman.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You can't run the ball. I can relate to that
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  Speaker 2: in Pullman.
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  Speaker 3: And in Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if we're going to get Alex and
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  Speaker 2: MK on this week. We were going back and forth
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  Speaker 2: with a lot of stuff. I'm embarrassed by the guy
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  Speaker 2: that's playing quarterback in Pullman. Absolutely flat out embarrassed by
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  Speaker 2: how he handles himself. It's not only are you a
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  Speaker 2: bad football player at that level. You might be a
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  Speaker 2: good player at the FCS level or Division II or
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  Speaker 2: Division III. I I'll tell you right now, I saw
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  Speaker 2: a better quarterback play in Division III for four years
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  Speaker 2: than this kid, than Caden Penick. I'm just embarrassed by him.
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  Speaker 2: I'm really embarrassed by how Kirby has handled it. First-time
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  Speaker 2: head coach has not handled things well, has not been
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  Speaker 2: a leader. The reluctance to make a change is embarrassing.
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  Speaker 2: I'll leave that at that. That's enough Cougar talk today. Huskies,
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  Speaker 2: you guys have your own issues. Softy will address those,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure, at 3 o'clock along with what's going on
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  Speaker 2: with the Seahawks, but The only thing that is a
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  Speaker 2: saving grace is Oregon dropped out of the top 25
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  Speaker 2: and they lost again, and their chances of going to
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs are about 0.1% now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so everyone in the Pacific Northwest can be miserable together.
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  Speaker 2: Well, except for Oregon State.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, except for the Beavs. That's what I was going
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  Speaker 3: to say.
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  Speaker 2: The Beavs are good.
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  Speaker 3: They've got a good coach, and they seem to be rolling.
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  Speaker 2: But, yeah, I mean, you look at where Oregon is.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they're 1-1 in the conference, but they're 3-2.
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  Speaker 2: They're done. Like, they're done.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't see them, I don't see how they
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  Speaker 2: can come back. Washington, you're a top 20 team to
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  Speaker 2: start the season, and you should become, you know, to
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  Speaker 2: be out of it right now is a lot of
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  Speaker 2: questions with Jed and everything else. All right, let's get
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  Speaker 2: back to the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So the Donald thing is, like I said, his interception rate,
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  Speaker 2: in terms of the percentage of passes he throws at intercepted,
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  Speaker 2: is the highest in the NFL. Or, depending on how
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  Speaker 2: you want to look at it, is the worst in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL, highest in the NFL. That's a stat you
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  Speaker 2: don't want to be number one in.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: He's actually 29th in the league in that, if you
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  Speaker 2: want to just look at it that way. There's a
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  Speaker 2: couple guys, Jared Goff hasn't thrown an interception yet. Gino
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  Speaker 2: he's fumbled enough though, but, uh, but yeah, that's part
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  Speaker 2: of it. Yeah. Um, that's part of it. The other
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  Speaker 2: part of it, which, and we all know that, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: seven touchdowns, five interceptions for Darnold is just, just unacceptable.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and just the amount of turn and it's, It's
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  Speaker 3: one thing, too, if it's just him. If he's the
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  Speaker 3: only one turning the ball over, you are winning that
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  Speaker 3: turnover battle because he wasn't the one. It was also
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  Speaker 3: two fumbles, and those weren't on him. So it's also
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  Speaker 3: a turnover issue.
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  Speaker 2: You just don't win games when you turn the ball over.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: I'll get with you and huddle up with him a
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  Speaker 2: little bit, too, because I asked this to Cosell on Friday,
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  Speaker 2: to Greg Cosell Friday. I asked him if there's any– listen,
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  Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigba is the only– receiver that's doing
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  Speaker 2: anything this year. You know, he's got 37 catches. Cup's
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  Speaker 2: got 11. Rashid Shahid's got nine. That was a nice
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  Speaker 2: ball that went right through his hands yesterday. Yeah. Right
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  Speaker 2: through your hands.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Right through your hands. And I'm not talking to... JSN
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  Speaker 2: had the most egregious of drops.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think the reason that it was so bad, though,
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  Speaker 3: is because he's also the last person you expected from.
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  Speaker 2: And it's time and place.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: If that happens in the first quarter, you're like, that's fine.
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  Speaker 2: You come back from it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was like.
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  Speaker 2: He catches that. At worst, you have a tie game.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: He catches that. At worst, you have a tie game.
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  Speaker 2: And it goes through his hands. Now, he's done... more
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  Speaker 2: than his fair share to carry this team the last year,
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  Speaker 2: but you need him to make the catch. That's why
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  Speaker 2: you just got that big-ass contract, JSN. That's why you
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  Speaker 2: got that contract.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Because if you're the only guy that's a threat in
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  Speaker 2: the receiver position, and you are right now, a couple
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  Speaker 2: of 11 catches, Shahid nine catches, Torrey Horton four, and
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  Speaker 2: that's it. The tight end situation, I'm stunned that Elijah
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  Speaker 2: Arroyo isn't better. He's got one catch this season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't, what are, what are we doing with him?
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  Speaker 2: Nothing. Apparently.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing.
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  Speaker 3: I can't understand. You've got this athletic option that you're just.
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  Speaker 2: And make no mistake. Like the defense had his fair
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  Speaker 2: share of problems too. Like I, I, I think that
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  Speaker 2: also needs to be pointed out. Like they weren't without fault.
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  Speaker 2: Good for a while. And then, you know, you look
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  Speaker 2: at the last couple of drives, not good enough.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Like the 49ers' final two drives, touchdown field goal. Touchdown
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  Speaker 2: two-point conversion and a field goal to win the game.
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  Speaker 2: A 12-play drive and an 8-play drive for the 49ers
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  Speaker 2: on those last two drives. That's not good enough either.
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  Speaker 2: But how much was on them because of what was
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  Speaker 2: going on on the other side of the ball?
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: You can't give the 49ers the ball where we were
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  Speaker 3: giving them the ball and then expect that the defense
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  Speaker 3: has to just stop them.
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  Speaker 2: This feels different than last year. This feels different than
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  Speaker 2: a year ago when they were 3-2 as well. And
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  Speaker 2: I was trying to wrap my arms around it because
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  Speaker 2: they went to Jacksonville, got a win last year. So
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of similar. AFC team is probably pretty good
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  Speaker 2: on the road. You've got to go to Denver, right?
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  Speaker 2: And maybe you can get to 4-2 and you're feeling
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  Speaker 2: a little bit better about yourself. Kansas City then comes
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  Speaker 2: here with the Ken Walker revenge game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's going.
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  Speaker 3: To probably try to run for 350 yards. He's going
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  Speaker 3: to give them the ball every time, apparently, for how
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  Speaker 3: they're running them.
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  Speaker 2: I will, and I'll stand corrected in a while, a
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  Speaker 2: couple weeks if this happens. I'm not as worried about
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  Speaker 2: that against this defense, letting him go bananas and run crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Mahomes would worry me a little bit more actually than
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  Speaker 2: Ken Walker. They know what Ken Walker is. They'll have
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  Speaker 2: a game plan for that. It's the offense. It's Sam Darnold. Yeah, again,
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  Speaker 2: a 12-play and 8-play drive that both resulted in 11
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  Speaker 2: points effectively to win the game for San Francisco when
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  Speaker 2: you had the lead That's not good for the defense. But,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, my God. Offensively, it just, I mean, field
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  Speaker 2: goals and interceptions and fumbles yesterday. That's what it was.
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  Speaker 2: These are the Seahawks drives. Interception, punt, touchdown. Punt, field goal, fumble.
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  Speaker 2: Field goal, fumble. Interception, field goal, touchdown, field goal, field goal.
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  Speaker 2: And then turn it over on downs. Just going through
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  Speaker 2: here to see. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Two touchdowns.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 3: I think the thing that's so frustrating.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, Ashley, just one thing. The one, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: touchdown on a muffed punt. I mean, they benefited from turnovers, too.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I think the thing that's so frustrating, though, is we're
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  Speaker 3: talking about the second loss of the season, and the
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: second loss where they played terribly and still could have won.
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: That's what's irritating to me.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: You could also turn around and say that's glass half full.
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: You could. You could turn around and say that's glass
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: half full. Because they... If you want to just go
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: through the year, we talked about this a lot last week.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: In fact, I talked about it last week with Palo
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Zolo and with Cosell. I think it's safe to say
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: this team hasn't played really more than one or two
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: good quarters in any game yet this year. Every game
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: it's been one or two quarters they've been okay or good.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: And then the other ones they just kind of screwed around.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: Look at last week. They screwed around in the fourth
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: quarter and almost let the Chargers. Can you imagine if
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: they would have lost that game?
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, that would have been.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: Holy smokes, man.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: That would have been so aggravating.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Um, and, and you just got, you know, I think
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: in some ways, you know, you got pants by, by
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: a Kyle Shanahan coach team.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, you beat yourself.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, you did.
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: Two interceptions, two fumbles. And, and that fumble, I'm sorry,
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: there's no excuse for Halani holding the ball like that
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: in his own end zone. Well, let's try to come
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: out of his own end zone.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: Let's go back because if you say, God, well, you know,
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Halani is always so dependable. Well, he, he also dropped
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: the ball. It, without being touched earlier in the game.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Like, just dropped it.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: And I like George, man. I mean, we had a
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: chance to talk to him a couple times, you know,
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: over the last year, training camp and even last year.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: I like, I think he's a great story. You know,
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: he's a really good story. I love the undrafted free
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: agent stories. Guys that grind and make the team. His
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: pass blocking is way overrated, at least. If you want
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: to believe PFF, it's overrated. I don't know how much
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: I believe PFF anymore because PFFs like the newspaper. They
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: like the news tribune. They laid everybody off. So I
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: don't even know who's doing their analysis anymore.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: Robots.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: But your eyes will tell you that there's just nothing there.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: He is the definition of a Jake. I don't know
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: why they didn't play Henry. That's the part I don't get.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: You sign this guy, you bring him in. Was he
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: that far behind on the playbook where you couldn't use him?
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Just say run. And please hold on to the ball.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Right? Now, I do believe... from our conversations last week
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: with Rang and others, that he also has a little
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: bit of a fumble problem. He'll fit right in.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: Because we've got Jadarian Price.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Actually, that's a good point. You know what? He'd be
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: a perfect fit.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: In that running backs room.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: Emmanuel Wilson fumbles once. Helani fumbled twice, loses one. We've
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: got Jadarian Price with fumble issues. So why not?
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: God, they need Zach Charbonnet. And I don't think I'd
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: ever imagine myself saying those words. I think Zach Charbonnet
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: is a good player. but man, right now he's an
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: all pro on this team.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Uh, they need him, but the Sam Darnold thing is
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: the one out. And we'll hear from Mike McDonald in
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: about 11 minutes from now, he's going to speak live
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: coming up at 1230. And we're going to hear that.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: And it'd be good to get his, get his thoughts
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: a day later. You know, I, he does a terrific
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: job of protecting the, the, the, the locker room. So
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I don't expect him to throw anybody into the bus,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: but we'll see. Um, It's interesting in college football, a
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: lot of times back in the past in college football,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: old college football, you would be inclined to make changes
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: at the quarterback position. You said something interesting, though. You
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: don't maybe do that anymore. Why is that? Well, because
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: guys are getting paid big money. Hell, they're not. Even
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: guys that aren't getting paid big money. They're making $ 250, 000,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: and Valley Buick GMC is giving them a truck, literally. Yep.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: By the way, I feel bad for those guys. I
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: would not be pumping up Caden... Hey, we gave Caden Penney,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: that tweet resurfaced this weekend. Hey, we're giving this guy
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: a try. I could start with Cam Ward, blah, blah, blah.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: You want to be far away from that dude right now.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: But in college, you could do that. Back in the day,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you do it as much anymore.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: The NFL, you just don't. And there's a reason. Usually
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: there's a pretty significant drop-off from number one to number two.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: And I think there probably still is with Darnold DeLock.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: But man, I understand why fans are calling for a change.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I totally understand it. Watch the game. Watch Sam Darnold.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Usually very resilient. Not so much right now.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: I was watching yesterday just yelling, like, how is Brock
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Purdy able to scramble so well?
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: He's really amazing. Yeah. He really is.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: He's very good.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: He did get sacked for the first two times this year.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Thank goodness. That's all I really cared about.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't care about the win.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just wanted to sack him.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: He got sacked, thank God.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: So we don't have to keep hearing, how has he
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: not been sacked?
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: How has he not been sacked? All right, so here's
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: what we're going to do. We'll take a quick break,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: come back, hear from Mike McDonald. 49451 Tacoma Dodge text line.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Do we have a quarterback problem in this state? Your
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: thoughts on all of the above. Also, talkbacks as well.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: The Red Microphone iHeartRadio app next.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Now back to Countdown to Monday Night Football with Ian Furness.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Brought to you by Frostbrood Coors Light. Cold as the Rockies.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: On Sports Radio 93.3, KJR FM.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Hi, we'll hear from Seahawk head coach Mike McDonald here
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: in just a couple of minutes. His normal three o'clock
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: hour news conference is at 1230 today. To add insult
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: to injury, you lose to the 49ers at home. And
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: now you have to turn around and go to Denver
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: on Thursday. Yeah. Short week.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Nice short week. Although at the same time, you can
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: hopefully just put this loss behind you and get over it.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: A win and it's basically what we're going to try
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: to do with factor fiction we're going to chase yeah
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: just gonna give you that right now.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: We're chasing something that was bad.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: We are chasing hard tonight chasing.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Ashley and and we should And we should. It worked
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: out last time we did it, so why not try again?
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: It did. I should point out with Factor Fiction, it
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: was not a good week. The Jessamyn and Greg Bell
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: show had a decent week. They were 3-2.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's pretty good.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Everyone else was awful. The morning show was 1-4. The
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Furness show, 0-4.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Did we not have one on? Oh, yeah, we didn't
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: have one on Friday. That's right.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: And Softie, Fane, and Jackson, 0-4.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: So you know what? We chase, much like playing a
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Thursday night football game is chasing if you're the NFL team.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: That's right. Let's do it. Just get over the hump quickly.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Do we take any pleasure in the fact that Oregon
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: lost to UCLA?
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: And couldn't convert a two-point conversion from the half-yard line? Well, actually,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: it was the one and a half. They kind of
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: screwed that up, by the way, but that's fine. You
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: know what? That looks good on Oregon, and Dan Lanning specifically.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: I do take pleasure in it, but then I'm like, ooh,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: but it's UCLA. But at the same time, I still
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: hate Oregon more.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, it's weird because when your team doesn't do well, like,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: if you're a Cougar fan, you can't take any delight. Well,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: you can, but it doesn't help you because the Washington loss,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: they're not in the same conference anymore, but, you know,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: they get boat raced at home by Iowa.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: But then if you've flipped over and watched the second
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: half of your game against Utah State, a bad football team,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: then you just, we should shut up too and say nothing.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: If you're the Huskies or the Cougs or anybody else
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: doesn't like Oregon, it's cool they lost to UCLA, but
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Until you remember that, well, you lost as well. And oh,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: by the way, UCLA was one of the key cogs
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: in the Pac-12 dissolving.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Right. That's why I was like, see, then it's a problem.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: It was them and USC. Like, if you want to
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: point the blame game, it was those two.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: And that's why I don't cheer for USC anymore. And
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: I never cheered for UCLA. No. But it looked.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Good on Dan Lanning. It did. I'll be honest with you.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: It looked good on Dan Lanning.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Was he salty after?
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: He's always salty.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: He's salty when they win, for God's sake.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: I know, just the saltiest. That's what I can't quite understand.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It is what it is. So
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: we're waiting on Mike McDonald. He should start any time now.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: We will take your texts and phone calls, by the way,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: at 2.30 today. I might even break a little bit
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: early just to give you a heads up, Ash, with Sando.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Because I have a feeling we're going to get quite a.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: Lot of feedback.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Well, we've already gotten a lot.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wanted to talk back as well. iHeartRadio
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: out the red microphone and speak away. Hugh Millen coming
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: up here in just a few minutes at 1 o'clock.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I'm curious to hear what Hugh has to say about Darnold,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: the turnovers. I think as well, the Jobe situation, did
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: you have, you have that Cosell audio, right? We can
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: play a little bit later for you. We'll play that
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: because it's like Greg Cosell is preview with us on Friday.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: He foreshadowed what was going to happen. You know, Jobe's
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: going to be matched up with Mike Evans and I'm
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: just kind of checking here. I don't think that worked
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: out well for Seattle at all.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Not particularly. No, Mike Evans had a pretty darn good game.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I felt like Mike Evans kind of did what he wanted.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Seven catches for 113 yards and a touchdown. Yeah, I
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: think he kind of did exactly what he wanted to do.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: And for a team that, kind of like Seattle, doesn't
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: have a ton of depth at receiver, although Brandon Cook's
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: catching a touchdown, that's no fun. Like, that shouldn't happen.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Brandon Cook was on a practice squad two weeks ago.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, they, and they lost Debo Samuel in the
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: game and then they get, then.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: What the hell happened to Debo?
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: I don't even know. He landed on the ball. I
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: think they said, but, but.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Then it was like his hamstring or something.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: That's what I didn't understand. They're like, Oh, he looks
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: like he's in pain. I think he landed on the ball.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: And then they're like, it's a hamstring injury. I was like, wait, what?
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I don't want to make light of this, but I've,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I've got a text chain with, uh, my son and
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: a bunch of his buddies that somehow I got involved with.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I think mostly because if, if there's no cracking game, um,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: you know, which there has been the last two weeks,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: but they'll, our house is filled with a bunch of
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: young 20 year olds, uh, watching the football with fantasy
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: football and betting slips and so on and so forth. Uh,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: and I'm, I'm literally on the set at the, for
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: the Kraken. I looked down at my phone and says, uh,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Debo Samuel just died on the field. Again, I'm not
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: making light of death, but it was like, what, what
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: do you mean he just died? And I went back
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: and cause I'm pausing it, you know, on the, um,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I had it on my, computer. I'm like, oh, he did.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: He just, like, what happened to him? And then he's done.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: So no Dre Greenlaw, no Debo. All right, here's Mike McDonald.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the Virginia Mason Athletic Center right now.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: I don't think we have any more injury updates from
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: this morning, but I'll try to enlighten you as best
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: I can if you have questions on guys.
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: Just with Zach, just to reiterate, you don't expect him
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: to play.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: I'll leave it at that. As of right now, the
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: answer is no. Subject to change. Try not to be
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: boxed in there.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: You guys are.
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: Seeing a little bit higher time to throw this year
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: than last year, but also seeing a higher pressure rate.
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: Are you seeing it as projections breaking down, causing a
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: longer time to throw, or maybe the decisiveness isn't there,
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: and so more pressure's coming?
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think all those things, I would
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: say it's not, we haven't really clicked yet in terms
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: of the timing of our past game, coinciding with the protections,
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: something we're aware of, something that kind of falls on
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: everybody's front, everybody's area of responsibility, but I think that
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: sounds about right.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: With Zach, how much of your plan with him, your
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: plan as of now to not play him, is related
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: to what this week looks like, a short week, and
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: the mode that you guys are in and all that?
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: I don't want to... We have to have consensus from
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: all parties that he's ready to go. He's the most
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: confident and ready to go, that he's had enough exposure
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: to go play an NFL game. And, um, so like,
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: those are some, those are the variables at play here
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: and can, can, can one area of that equation, can
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: that adjust as we go? Yeah. Um, but we're trying
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: to try to do right by the process right now,
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: I guess the best way to explain it.
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: You've talked about the opportunity for growth in the offense
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: and the team in general, how much is that to
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: be expected when you have a new offensive coordinator and
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: it just taking a little while to get into it?
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Um, we expect to grow in all three phases. Um,
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: there's a sense of urgency to go. I think, um, sometimes,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: sometimes you grow best by kind of double down, doubling
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: down on your core competencies and the things you believe in.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: I think, I think that's something we want to focus
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: on is making sure that, um, we're, we're all aligned
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: in all the things from, from players to coaches and
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: how we want to play and how we want to
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: execute and what's expected of us. Uh, But yeah, we're
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: growing on defense. We're growing on special teams. I think
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: you saw our special teams take a jump yesterday. Offense
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: is right there with them, but there's a sense of
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: urgency to get going. Mike, on that, what are.
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: The factors you need for a team to play decisive, relentless,
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: and shocking from this morning?
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Decisiveness is mind, body, and spirit. It's clarity. It's a
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: sense of connectedness. It's, it's a confidence, the feeling of
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: I'm letting go of the result because I'm very confident
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: in the things that I'm going to do process wise
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: on the inputs. That's a size of this. Uh, shocking
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: is the level of detail. It's, it's all the things
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: that go into what makes running a great slant route.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: You know, it's what makes eat come to life. It's
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: what makes, you know, the people talk about silent tape
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: all the time. What, what pops off the silent tape
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: and relentless is the spirit we have of, of, um,
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: without circumstance we just we just go we go until
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: the job's done and um i think i think there's
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: definitely there's you know there's there's there's evidence of that
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: throughout the game right i mean i think i think
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: you watched a relentless team yesterday i think we are
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: i think we are those things a lot of the
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: times but it hasn't been as connected and it's consistent
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: enough to put a put great seahawk football out there
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: to the degree and the caliber that um that we
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: believe that we can get to so.
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: When you've played on a short week in the past,
• 28:43
  Speaker 8: I guess what have you learned over the years as
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: to the priorities that you have to make to get
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: ready for?
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sure. We've tweaked our schedule a little bit. We've
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: done it multiple ways. To me, you're fighting kind of
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: a battle on two fronts. It's the health body battle
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: of trying to get your body ready to play the
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: best you can. How you recover and how you how
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: you kind of get reps without going full speed. There's
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: an element there. It's also something we said about getting
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: your body moving at some point before the game, so
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: that's something we consider. That's number one. And then two,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: it's the balance of having a great, clear, concise, aggressive
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: plan that you can go execute at a high level.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: What do you do to get ready for the altitude?
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: There's some things like recovery-wise, nutrition-wise, rest-wise on how we're
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: going to go into the week. It's more of an
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: awareness and then maybe some strategy things involved on our front.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: It's kind of in the player performance realm of how
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: we're attacking it.
• 29:55
  Speaker 9: Robert Henry, what's his status of progress and why was
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: he not active yesterday?
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: We dressed three backs yesterday. He's coming along. He's doing
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: a good job on the team. He could be ready
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: to play if we needed him.
• 30:09
  Speaker 9: In that situation, does he just get a subset or
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: package for him until he learns the whole playbook, or
• 30:15
  Speaker 9: you need him to be spun up pretty well before
• 30:17
  Speaker 9: you'll play him?
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: Well, it would have to– I mean, there's different criteria
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: for having guys up. Does he need to know everything?
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: No.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: No.
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: After watching the film, do you have any different view
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: of the final, the play with Cooper and kind of
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: the measurements and how that all developed?
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: No, they said the ball didn't cross. I mean, they
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: looked at it and they said the ball didn't cross
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: the line.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, I could tell them I disagree, but they
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: don't care what I think.
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: You guys last year ate up man coverage. Team stopped
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: kind of playing it against you for a while. This year...
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: it's kind of gone the other way and now teams
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: are increasing the amount of man coverage you're seeing.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: What do you think is different?
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: Well, I'd probably argue that we see about the same
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: amount of man on early downs and probably some more
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: on more passing downs. But we've got to be able
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: to win. Teams are going to do what they think
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: they can do is successful. So if we're seeing more man,
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: that means that they think they can play more man.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: So we're going to have to we're gonna have to
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: beat man.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: Big picture, Mike, how do you view the job that
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: Brian has done so far? And like, how do you
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: assess that in the context of the things that are
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: not going well with your offense run game turnovers?
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we, we talked about it, uh, with last week,
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: like his, his, his approach of like trying to find
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: solutions and working through things that arise. I think he's
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: done a great job of that. Um, we're, we're scoring points,
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: but we're not as efficient and we've turned the ball
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: over at a similar click that we did early last year. Um,
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: But I think he's doing a good job. I think
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: he's doing a good job. But we've got to continue
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: as an offensive staff, and Brian's leading our offensive staff,
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: of generating really clear plans that we can execute. And
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: as an offense, executing at really a higher level. I
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: don't want execution to say it's like we're pawning anything off.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: It drives me crazy. The coach is like, hey, we're
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: just going to execute better. It's like, yeah, no kidding.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: That's our job. But it's our job as a football
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: team to carry our responsibilities better, and take care of
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: the football.
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: I don't know if you saw Jax's post-game comments, but
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: he's pretty hard on himself for that one ball he
• 32:36
  Speaker 8: didn't come down with for a guy who's accomplished all
• 32:38
  Speaker 8: he has when he's beaten himself over one play.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: What does that kind of tell you about him? I'm
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: not surprised to hear that from Jax, but, I mean,
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: is there a player you trust more with the ball
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: thrown to him on the planet? I don't think so.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: It doesn't change one bit the way we see it.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: It was a really tough catch. I know he wants
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: to come down with it. We obviously have faith that
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: he'll catch those passes, but there's nobody we trust more
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: than JSM.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: With the offense not clicking yet the way you guys
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: want it to, Sam's leadership, his demeanor, how helpful do
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: you think that is as you guys continue to try
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: to find the right path?
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Sam's a great representation of everyone we
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: have on offense and really on our football team. I mean,
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: we get a lot of questions on offense, but as
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: a team, there's things we fell short of yesterday. Uh,
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: We take ownership of our area of responsibility. And when
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: your quarterback is one of those guys leading the charge
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: saying that, hey, I've got to do X, Y, and
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: Z better, I think it sets the table for everybody
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: else at play to have the same mentality. And I
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: think if you have that mentality, you've got a really
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: good chance to improve. So like I said this morning,
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: I really love our group. I love the people involved.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: I trust them. So let's go have at it. Let's
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: go get better.
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: When you have a fan sitting on the couch and
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: they see one guy that keeps catching the ball, they're like, well,
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: why don't you just double that guy or take that guy?
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: Can you help people understand a little bit like what
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: you're trading off when you have to make those decisions defensively?
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: I'd love to. I'm assuming you're talking about with number
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: five yesterday. I can agree. I can tell you there's
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: reasons why we were in certain coverages when he did
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: catch the ball. Sometimes you're right on why you're in
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: those coverages and sometimes you're not. When you double a guy,
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: it takes away from other areas. And just because he
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: catches the ball doesn't mean that you don't have two
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: people allocated to him. So I understand it's probably frustrating
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: to see that and it's Frankly, it's a fair criticism.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: I can tell you we're trying to make the best
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: decision in real time we can to help our guys
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: put in situations that we can based off of the
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: information we have. Sometimes as a play caller, you nail
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: it and you feel great because your player is in
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: a great spot. Sometimes you don't and your player isn't
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: in the optimum spot. That happens sometimes. That happens.
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: You might appreciate in Josh, are they, or you might
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: appreciate in Trevon Diggs, are they earning some more snaps
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: with their play so far?
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Well, um, I talked about this this morning a little bit,
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: but I think, I think like what's cool about our
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: group is that they're, everyone's in competition with not just
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: their person with their position group, but really how we
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: deploy everybody else. So, um, the answer is yes, but, um,
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: how we do it, how we deploy our people, it's
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: really a week to week thing. It's, uh, It's an
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: in-game thing. It is hard to kind of change how
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: you're going to personnel things based off of how you practice,
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: and sometimes it's easier to change with how you're calling
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: it rather than how you change people in-game, but those
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: guys are doing a good job. They're doing a good job.
• 36:16
  Speaker 9: How do you weigh when to keep Witherspoon inside and
• 36:19
  Speaker 9: affect maybe the game more directly and keep him on
• 36:22
  Speaker 9: outside corner? Is that specifically game plan dependent, or are
• 36:25
  Speaker 9: there some things that, you're given and taken there when
• 36:28
  Speaker 9: you move him outside?
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: Um, well, it starts with he's, he's a game changing
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: nickel where people have to account for him when he's inside. And, um,
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: he's a really good outside corner as well, but he's
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: probably the best nickel in the game. Um, so that's
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: a trade-off that you have to keep in mind. Um,
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: the way That Mighty is playing Nehemiah and what Josh
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: does well, I think that complements what we do. And
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: then when you have Nick, the way we've been using him,
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: he allows us to do certain things by how we've
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: utilized Nick as well. So it's not just in a
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: vacuum of how we're using Spoon, but you've got to
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: consider just how that changes how we use the rest
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: of our people. Mike, when you went back and watched
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: the film, what stood out about Byron's game yesterday? uh,
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: Byron's playing dominant football right now. And, uh, it's, he's just,
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: I think we got to do a better job around
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: him so he can, you know, so those plays come
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: to life a little bit more, setting up some of
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: the more past situations where he went on early downs.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: But yeah, Brian's, uh, Byron's playing really great. And, uh,
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: they're a tough team. They're really talented. Um, Defensively, they
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: pair their personnel well with their scheme. They're aggressive. They
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: do a really good job affecting the quarterback, affecting the ball,
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: denying the ball. Offensively, it's kind of a tried and
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: true scheme that Sean's done over time. He just took
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: over play calling again. The quarterback's playing at a high level,
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: extends plays. complimentary football. They're a good football team.
• 38:26
  Speaker 9: What's Elijah Arroyo got to do to take the next
• 38:28
  Speaker 9: step in packing?
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: I think it's a similar answer to what we're talking
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: about on defense. He's not just in competition with the
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: tight ends, but it's a receiver thing. It's a back
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: thing about having productivity in practice and nailing those things
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: in practice. So your role can expand. And then when
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: you get opportunities in the game, making it come to life,
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: taking advantage of it.
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: Mike, we didn't ask you about this last Friday, but
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: Mike Ditka passing, I mean, there's a guy who studies
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: the game and appreciates, you know.
• 39:03
  Speaker 9: Good teams, good defenses.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: What can you say about the impact he had on
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: the league? Uh, he's one of those icons as a
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: kid that you just, you associate Mike Ditka with the NFL,
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: you know, he kind of is the NFL and for, uh,
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: have the opportunity to have, you know, work with Leslie
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: and Leslie playing for coach Ditka, um, It's cool to
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: hear Leslie's, you know, how he remembers Coach Ditko, like
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: how he went about his business, what type of person
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: he was. Really the cool thing, I learned about him
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: was like how he went out of his way to
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: be there for, without getting all the details that you
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: shared with me, but like going out of your way
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: to be there for the people when no one's really
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: paying attention. Like when your players need you, your coaches,
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: the people outside, um, even when you're done coaching to
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: maintain those relationships, Kind of reminds you of why we
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: do what we do. So that was really special to
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: hear when you hear about it. Did you ever meet
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: him or cross paths with him? No, I was never
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: able to meet him. That would have been awesome. Anything else?
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Anything else is the cue to say it's done and
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: over with. That's Mike McDonald. We'll come back and briefly
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: talk about what he had to say next. conference usually
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: it's at three and that i think takes place on
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: the wednesday news conference which will be uh i think
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: i gotta look at the schedule i don't even know
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: because they're traveling wednesday so thursday game for the seahawks
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: he went the one thing that jumped out he did
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: say something about the turnovers and we'll get to you
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: mill and hardcore football coming up in a minute but
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: it's a remarkably similar story through five games as it
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: was last year with the turnovers through five games Last year,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: through five games, they had turned the ball over eight times.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Three interceptions by Sam Darnold and five fumbles lost. Through
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: five games this year, nine turnovers. Five, but this is
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: where it's a little different. Five Sam Darnold interceptions and
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: four fumbles lost. So one more, but Darnold with two
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: more interceptions and he's played basically two fewer games. He's
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: only played three.
• 41:07
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, if we take the first one out, really.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: That does make it worse.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: So it is a little bit, but the overall numbers,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: eight and nine, remarkably similar. JSN's numbers, 2025, he had
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: 34 catches through five, 37 this year. The big drop-off
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: is the number two receiver. Cooper Cup last season through
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: five games had 24 catches. This year he has 11.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: That's the drop-off.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: The rushing yards, remarkably similar. Seven yards difference per game.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: If you just go by per game, 565 to 530.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: So the rushing numbers are remarkably similar. At this point
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: last year, Zach Charbonnet was carrying the ball for less
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: than three yards a carry.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: 48 for 132. He did have three touchdowns. Walker, 68
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: for 330, a 4.9-yard average, and also three touchdowns. But
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: the overall rushing numbers were almost identical.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Which is crazy because it feels so different. So different.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about all that. Hugh Millen, Hardcore Football next.