Latest / Crosswalk Talk: Celebrity Christian Interviews / Mena Massoud Went From Aladdin to the Book of Daniel
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Life Audio.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Hey, Mina, thanks for joining me. Hey, Michael.
- 0:07Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, man.
- 0:08Speaker 1: Mina Massoud, actor who leaped on the scene back in
- 0:11Speaker 1: 2019 with the movie Aladdin and has had roles in
- 0:14Speaker 1: other prominent films as well, including Jack Ryan and the rom-com.
- 0:18Speaker 2: The Royal Treatment, I should say, TV series as well.
- 0:21Speaker 1: And you are, of course, the lead now in Daniel
- 0:24Speaker 1: and the Fiery Furnace, which follows the biblical story of
- 0:26Speaker 1: Daniel and his courageous actions under King Nebuchadnezzar. Mina, of
- 0:30Speaker 1: all the roles you've played, What drew you to Daniel
- 0:33Speaker 1: and what is it about his story and his faith
- 0:35Speaker 1: that made you want to be part of this movie?
- 0:38Speaker 3: Well, I've been looking forward to doing a, you know,
- 0:40Speaker 3: bringing a biblical story to life for a long time.
- 0:43Speaker 3: You know, I grew up doing church plays and Stations
- 0:46Speaker 3: of the Cross in elementary school and, you know, the
- 0:50Speaker 3: church being a big part of my life as a
- 0:52Speaker 3: Coptic Christian. And I never really thought, honestly, that we'd
- 0:57Speaker 3: get to a point where biblical stories were being told
- 1:00Speaker 3: on this level. on this scale. And so to see
- 1:04Speaker 3: it being done now is incredible. You know, it's, I
- 1:08Speaker 3: feel very blessed and grateful that we're having this moment
- 1:11Speaker 3: of portraying these incredible biblical stories the way that we are.
- 1:17Speaker 3: And so really that was the number one thing that
- 1:19Speaker 3: drew me to it. I'd been circling a few different
- 1:22Speaker 3: biblical projects before this one, and this one is the
- 1:26Speaker 3: one that God kind of put in my path and
- 1:29Speaker 3: we end up making. So I feel very blessed to
- 1:32Speaker 3: have been a part of it.
- 1:33Speaker 1: What do you think the lessons are in this film
- 1:36Speaker 1: for today's society, for people of faith? Because one thing
- 1:40Speaker 1: that really encouraged me in the movie is just how
- 1:42Speaker 1: Daniel didn't bow down, like literally and figuratively.
- 1:47Speaker 2: He stood up for what he believed.
- 1:50Speaker 3: Yeah, staying steadfast in your faith is certainly a theme.
- 1:53Speaker 3: And also deciding what you're going to hold to the
- 1:56Speaker 3: highest reverence and highest regard. I think nowadays that's a
- 2:00Speaker 3: question that I think a lot of young people especially
- 2:04Speaker 3: face every day with social media and the world being
- 2:07Speaker 3: so connected. Then you have to ask yourself, like, why
- 2:11Speaker 3: and who do you hold to the highest regard? There's
- 2:15Speaker 3: so much hype now with looking up to athletes and
- 2:19Speaker 3: celebrities and political figures and, you know, all these different
- 2:23Speaker 3: kinds of people. And you have to ask, well, who
- 2:26Speaker 3: is the most important person that I should be holding
- 2:29Speaker 3: at the highest regard, right? And I think that question
- 2:32Speaker 3: is different for everybody, but it's an important question to
- 2:34Speaker 3: ask yourself because we can lose sight of that. As Christians,
- 2:39Speaker 3: as non-Christians, we can all lose sight of that. And
- 2:41Speaker 3: I think it's something that's important to remind ourselves of.
- 2:45Speaker 2: Amen to that.
- 2:45Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about your background. I've
- 2:47Speaker 1: read your biography. I'm having trouble speaking here. You said
- 2:51Speaker 1: that your parents moved, I think, from Egypt to Canada
- 2:54Speaker 1: when you were about three and a half. They were
- 2:56Speaker 1: Catholic Christians as well, of course, and they felt things
- 2:58Speaker 1: were becoming a little too dangerous, I believe. Tell me
- 3:02Speaker 1: about that. And perhaps, did that give you an insight
- 3:05Speaker 1: into Daniel's story?
- 3:07Speaker 3: Yeah, look, as an immigrant, I think any immigrant can
- 3:11Speaker 3: relate to this idea of leaving what you know and
- 3:14Speaker 3: leaving your home that you love so much and going
- 3:17Speaker 3: to a new place.
- 3:18Speaker 2: And then how do you adjust to that new place?
- 3:20Speaker 3: And how do you stay steadfast in not only what
- 3:23Speaker 3: you believe in, but your traditions and your culture? And
- 3:26Speaker 3: that was certainly something that my parents, I think, did
- 3:29Speaker 3: a really good job of. They spoke Arabic to us
- 3:31Speaker 3: at home. My mom cooked Egyptian food every night. And
- 3:35Speaker 3: so staying true to where I come from and what
- 3:38Speaker 3: I believe in was really helped and guided by my parents.
- 3:43Speaker 3: But it's something that created an incredible foundation for myself.
- 3:47Speaker 3: And my friends who I grew up with in the
- 3:50Speaker 3: Coptic church still remain as some of my best friends.
- 3:53Speaker 3: And so this idea... of Daniel and his family being
- 4:00Speaker 3: stripped away from Judah and going to Babylon and being tested,
- 4:04Speaker 3: their faith being tested, is something that I think any
- 4:09Speaker 3: immigrant can relate to, but I certainly did.
- 4:11Speaker 1: I think Egypt is only 10% Coptic Christian, if I
- 4:15Speaker 1: understand the religious stats there.
- 4:18Speaker 2: Do you remember anything about that time?
- 4:22Speaker 1: And secondly, when your folks moved to Canada, I mean,
- 4:25Speaker 1: is there a Coptic community there?
- 4:28Speaker 3: Yeah. So, you know, I've been back to Egypt many times.
- 4:31Speaker 3: I work there now. And I will say Egypt is
- 4:34Speaker 3: an incredible place that doesn't, you know, that doesn't really
- 4:39Speaker 3: divide by religion, you know. And even my parents, when
- 4:44Speaker 3: they were in their 30s in Egypt, they really felt
- 4:47Speaker 3: like whether their friends were Muslim or Christian, that there
- 4:51Speaker 3: was really no difference between them. I think, obviously, any
- 4:54Speaker 3: extremism of any form is dangerous, and that exists in
- 4:58Speaker 3: every faith. But I think, overall, Egypt is a place,
- 5:02Speaker 3: is a very united place. And in Canada, yeah, there's
- 5:06Speaker 3: a huge Coptic community. I believe that the Coptic community
- 5:10Speaker 3: in Ontario, the province of Ontario, might be the largest
- 5:15Speaker 3: in all of Canada.
- 5:16Speaker 2: And so.
- 5:18Speaker 3: I grew up in a very tight-knit Coptic community that was,
- 5:24Speaker 3: you know, it was beautiful. You know, I spent a
- 5:26Speaker 3: lot of time in church and not just on Sundays
- 5:29Speaker 3: for the liturgy, but youth group and Bible study and
- 5:34Speaker 3: really think more than anything, it was just a place
- 5:36Speaker 3: where I grew some of my best and strongest friendships.
- 5:40Speaker 2: It's my understanding.
- 5:41Speaker 1: I don't think Egypt is as dangerous as some of
- 5:42Speaker 1: the other countries for Christians in the Middle East, but
- 5:45Speaker 1: I do want to ask you that question. I don't
- 5:46Speaker 1: know if there's anything unique in the region you guys
- 5:48Speaker 1: were living. You have a fascinating background. You attended the
- 5:51Speaker 1: University of Toronto for neuroscience before transferring to Ryerson University's
- 5:57Speaker 1: theater program.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Tell us about that.
- 5:59Speaker 1: Did you grow up wanting to be in neuroscience? And
- 6:03Speaker 1: what led you to make a decision and to change
- 6:06Speaker 1: your career path?
- 6:17Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I grew up wanting to be an actor.
- 6:20Speaker 3: That's always what I wanted to do. But I was
- 6:22Speaker 3: the youngest of three to an immigrant family. Both my
- 6:25Speaker 3: sisters are pharmacists. So my parents naturally wanted me to
- 6:29Speaker 3: be a doctor. And, you know, that's kind of what
- 6:32Speaker 3: I convinced myself I wanted to do for a bit
- 6:34Speaker 3: until I kind of decided that it wasn't and that
- 6:37Speaker 3: I wanted to pursue my, you know, my true passion
- 6:40Speaker 3: of acting.
- 6:41Speaker 2: And so in my first year.
- 6:43Speaker 3: Of neuroscience, which was really a pre-med major that I
- 6:49Speaker 3: was going to do and then apply to medical school.
- 6:51Speaker 3: In my first year, I decided to take a leap
- 6:54Speaker 3: of faith and audition for theater school and see if
- 6:57Speaker 3: I get in. They only took 30 people for the
- 6:59Speaker 3: program each year. And I got in and decided that
- 7:03Speaker 3: I would finally pursue my passion.
- 7:05Speaker 2: And Aladdin, of course, was where most of us first
- 7:10Speaker 2: heard of your name. How did you land that role?
- 7:12Speaker 2: And Were you shocked when they called you and told
- 7:16Speaker 2: you you're the one?
- 7:18Speaker 3: I was shocked when it started moving in the right direction,
- 7:23Speaker 3: to be honest. I had initially auditioned and for six months,
- 7:26Speaker 3: I never heard anything back. And so I kind of
- 7:28Speaker 3: forgot about it as every actor is trained to do
- 7:31Speaker 3: because of the utter rejection that we face every day.
- 7:36Speaker 3: And so when they called me after six months to
- 7:38Speaker 3: say that they wanted to see me again, that's really
- 7:41Speaker 3: when the real surprise was. But For me, it was
- 7:45Speaker 3: so early on of moving to LA and really starting
- 7:50Speaker 3: my professional career in the States that, for me, the
- 7:54Speaker 3: victory was just flying to London and getting to meet
- 7:57Speaker 3: Guy Ritchie and screen test with all of them. I
- 7:59Speaker 3: really didn't care if I booked a role after that point,
- 8:03Speaker 3: to be honest with you. Though, obviously, I'm grateful that
- 8:06Speaker 3: I did and feel very blessed.
- 8:09Speaker 1: Did you have a background, though, in singing? I mean,
- 8:12Speaker 1: that's a big part of this, a big part of Aladdin.
- 8:14Speaker 1: I mean, was that something that you grew up doing
- 8:17Speaker 1: as well?
- 8:18Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a fantastic program in theater school. It
- 8:21Speaker 3: was a conservatory-style program. So it was 13, 14-hour days
- 8:25Speaker 3: every day, six days a week. When I was in
- 8:27Speaker 3: theater school for four years, put a lot of hours
- 8:30Speaker 3: into everything. So singing was a part of it. Dancing
- 8:33Speaker 3: was a part of it. And then, of course, the classics,
- 8:35Speaker 3: commedia dell'arte, Shakespeare, mask work. you know, the classics. So
- 8:41Speaker 3: we did a bit of everything in theater school. And
- 8:43Speaker 3: I think that really helped prepare me for, you know,
- 8:45Speaker 3: that a mega, a mega job like Aladdin was.
- 8:50Speaker 1: Do you know what types of movies and products you
- 8:52Speaker 1: want to be involved in in the future? And I
- 8:53Speaker 1: asked that because you've been involved in so many different types.
- 8:56Speaker 1: I mean, is there something that you want to really
- 8:57Speaker 1: pursue in the future or are you kind of open
- 8:59Speaker 1: to anything?
- 9:01Speaker 3: You know, I feel like I'm still young in my
- 9:03Speaker 3: career and I'm open to anything. You know, I've been
- 9:06Speaker 3: very lucky to do, you know, the big blockbuster like Aladdin.
- 9:10Speaker 3: The indie film world, you know, has been my world
- 9:14Speaker 3: for really the last few years. The rom-coms with the
- 9:18Speaker 3: Royal Treatment and films like Hotel for the Holidays and
- 9:22Speaker 3: a film that I did last year that I really
- 9:24Speaker 3: enjoyed working on was Julia Stiles' directorial debut, Wish You
- 9:28Speaker 3: Were Here. That was a really kind of dramatic, sad
- 9:32Speaker 3: film that I really enjoyed working sinking my teeth into.
- 9:36Speaker 3: So I think I'm kind of open to anything.
- 9:39Speaker 2: I haven't done.
- 9:39Speaker 3: Comedy in a while now, so maybe comedy would be
- 9:42Speaker 3: nice as a change. But I also love the dramatic
- 9:46Speaker 3: pieces and the genre of drama.
- 9:48Speaker 2: So I.
- 9:50Speaker 3: Feel very lucky to have done a bit of everything
- 9:53Speaker 3: so far in my career.
- 9:54Speaker 1: Yeah, we've enjoyed the couple of rom-coms you did. Those
- 9:57Speaker 1: are kind of family-focused rom-coms. I think one of them
- 9:59Speaker 1: might have been on Netflix. The other one may be
- 10:01Speaker 1: an Amazon platform.
- 10:02Speaker 2: I forget.
- 10:02Speaker 1: But yeah, those were fun. Final question for you, Amina.
- 10:06Speaker 1: My 14-year-old daughter, Maggie, is a big fan of the
- 10:09Speaker 1: movie Aladdin. She's watched it at least 20 times. She
- 10:13Speaker 1: has a question for you, and I'm going to ask
- 10:16Speaker 1: it for her. If the genie was real... What would
- 10:20Speaker 1: you wish for in real life right now?
- 10:22Speaker 3: Oh, man, a long and healthy and prosperous career and life.
- 10:29Speaker 3: I think, you know, that's I think the one thing
- 10:32Speaker 3: that I think about now as I get older is,
- 10:34Speaker 3: you know, people say if you're not the one wish
- 10:38Speaker 3: you have when you're not healthy is to be healthy.
- 10:43Speaker 3: And when you're healthy, you have a multitude of wishes.
- 10:46Speaker 3: But ultimately, I think health is the number one thing
- 10:51Speaker 3: that I would wish for, for me and my loved
- 10:52Speaker 3: ones around me.
- 10:54Speaker 2: Amen to that. Mina, thanks so much. Thank you.
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