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Get your hip waders. It’s getting deep! | HBR Talk 391 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk three ninety one. Get
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  Speaker 1: your hip, waiters, it's getting deep. I'm your host Tanna Wallen,
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  Speaker 1: the personification of perceptivity Mike Stevenson and Uh, I've got
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  Speaker 1: can't see it either. So we are still going over
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  Speaker 1: the deep article. It's deep and shallow at the same time. Guys.
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  Speaker 1: The the attitude is shallow as fun with the bullshit
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  Speaker 1: is deep. It is so deep, really scary because I'm
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  Speaker 1: thing and being heard by the wrong person. Because that's
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  Speaker 1: But in the meantime, I also wanted to go with
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  Speaker 1: a bit of a reminder before I get more into
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  Speaker 1: this story. In twenty fourteen, we had the first ICMI
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  Speaker 1: International Convention or Conference on Men's Issues in Detroit, Michigan,
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  Speaker 1: and we had Jeff Charlotte, I mean Charlotte from the
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  Speaker 1: GQ magazine, you know I franchise came and interviewed a
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  Speaker 1: whole bunch of us and wrote a hit piece on us.
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  Speaker 3: And we weaponized aile.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a he was a real piece of work.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: This guy came. He brought the pedophile with him. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I was working security. I didn't know about this because
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  Speaker 1: nobody said to me, hey, this guy brought a pedophile.
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  Speaker 1: Because if somebody had said that to me, I would
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  Speaker 1: have gone straight to our head of security and said,
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  Speaker 1: do we do we want this person here, and we
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  Speaker 1: probably would have had some questions for that guy. But
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  Speaker 1: in the meantime, and what actually ended up happening was Charlotte. Charlotte,
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  Speaker 1: I just can't help but thinking of him as a
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  Speaker 1: little tiny shark. Sorry, he took that guy around and
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  Speaker 1: harassed people using that guy. He he went, he took
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  Speaker 1: the Badgers to lunch. I did not go because I
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  Speaker 1: was actually keeping an eye on the crowd. But he
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  Speaker 1: did take the Badger's for lunch, and there were at
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  Speaker 1: least two people I think three actually at the table
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  Speaker 1: that had been victims of childhood sexual assault or exploitation.
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  Speaker 1: And he sprung this this pedophile on them, like, look,
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  Speaker 1: this guy is your friend, he's one of you. And
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  Speaker 1: it was really bad, just absolutely, And then he tried
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  Speaker 1: in his article to associate that guy with the men's
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  Speaker 1: rights movement. And honestly, the only thing any of us
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  Speaker 1: has said is that when someone starts having weird impulses
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  Speaker 1: like that, they should be encouraged to get psychological help
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  Speaker 1: and not ignored. And it is better especially when you
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  Speaker 1: this was a younger person. When you have somebody who's young,
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  Speaker 1: who is starting to behave oddly in a manner like that,
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  Speaker 1: and they start having criminal impulses. And I'll say this,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's kleptomania, pedophilia, I can't think of the psychological
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  Speaker 1: term for a habitual arsist. Pyromania, that's what it is, pymermania.
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  Speaker 1: Anybody that has anything like that, they want to hurt animals,
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  Speaker 1: anything like that. People should be encouraged to seek help,
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  Speaker 1: not go underground and only talk about it in their
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  Speaker 1: own private little forms and everything. And so what Charlotte
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  Speaker 1: did by doing this was create an environment that is
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  Speaker 1: hostile to persuading people with harmful and dangerous impulses to
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  Speaker 1: come forward to the people in their lives who can
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  Speaker 1: help them and say that they need help so that
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  Speaker 1: they can get psychological treatment and overcome those impulses. But
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  Speaker 1: he also Smeared advocates for the rights of fathers to
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  Speaker 1: protect their children from from people like that, advocates for
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  Speaker 1: men and boys who have been victimized by people like that.
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  Speaker 1: It was it was it was heinous. It was quite
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  Speaker 1: a heinous act. It was quite a malicious article.
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  Speaker 3: Ironically. On quite the other hand, if you want to
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  Speaker 3: join a group of like minded people and have your
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  Speaker 3: impulses verified and downplayed as though it's it's just another
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  Speaker 3: kind of sexuality, have you considered joining the feminist movement?
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  Speaker 3: There you go, there's there's there's an arm of that
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  Speaker 3: bullshit for every kind of sexual deviancy. And yep, and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's that's where you'll find the people who are who
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  Speaker 3: are who are merely calling them maps, who just have
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  Speaker 3: another way of thinking that should be embraced, if anything,
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, it's not us, it's very much the people
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  Speaker 3: who hate us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, anything that anything they say about maps that cannot
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  Speaker 1: translate over to pyromaniacs, you obviously should be able to
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  Speaker 1: tell that it's wrong.
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  Speaker 3: They just fire a fire attracted passes fats.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they you know, they just want to set
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  Speaker 1: your house on fire. It's completely harmless. It's just the
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  Speaker 1: sexuality guys. Come on. But in any case, the point
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  Speaker 1: of me bringing this up is, you know, I know
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  Speaker 1: that's old news, right, but there was a particular thing
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  Speaker 1: that happened. During that There were two men that were
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  Speaker 1: that were interviewed. One of them was honey trapped, and
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  Speaker 1: he didn't fall for the honey trap. So when he
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  Speaker 1: wrote his article, Charlotte just lied about it. He said
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  Speaker 1: that he did, you know, none of that stuff happened.
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  Speaker 1: The other one, who who goes by any boy cdn
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  Speaker 1: on X if you want to follow him, he he
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  Speaker 1: was interviewed and Charlotte just completely whole cloth made up
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of lies and said he said things that
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  Speaker 1: he hadn't said. Uh and so on, and so there
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  Speaker 1: was there was just this complete manufactured fake article. They
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  Speaker 1: took pictures and they made the people they took pictures
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  Speaker 1: of look like they had just been released from some
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  Speaker 1: sort of prisoner of war camp. Like they were. The
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  Speaker 1: colors were pasty, that the background looked bad because of
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  Speaker 1: how pasty they altered things to make it was. It
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  Speaker 1: was really bad. Like I would be if I was
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  Speaker 1: a journalist at a magazine like that, and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: or if the newspaper I worked for had published pictures
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  Speaker 1: of mine I took and they looked like that, I
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  Speaker 1: would be humiliated. I would want to crawl in a
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  Speaker 1: hole and die. For people thinking that I did photography
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  Speaker 1: that looked like that. It was so bad. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I say this as somebody who worked as a professional photographer,
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  Speaker 1: But if you're even just an amateur that likes to
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  Speaker 1: take pictures of your family gatherings, you get, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a neat shot where you have four generations of family
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  Speaker 1: members sitting together at the table talking and stuff. You
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  Speaker 1: would be embarrassed if your pictures looked that bad, even
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  Speaker 1: if you have no training and you were just making
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  Speaker 1: a snapshot with an old phone.
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  Speaker 2: Who was that bad? All right?
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  Speaker 1: So they it was a hit piece just like this,
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  Speaker 1: and the majority of what was published in it was
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  Speaker 1: just bald face lives like it was completely made up.
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  Speaker 1: There was no connection with the truth. It was completely
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  Speaker 1: completely fabricated. Oh one minute, Crime Time says, I just
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  Speaker 1: actually disagree with what you guys are saying. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think we should open the door to normalize it. That's
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  Speaker 1: the first mistake you're making right there. When we call
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  Speaker 1: something mentally ill, and we say people who have these
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  Speaker 1: types of weird ass impulses need psychological treatment and help,
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  Speaker 1: and it's important that before they offend, they feel comfortable
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  Speaker 1: asking for that help. So that they can overcome those
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  Speaker 1: impulses and not commit the crimes. There is nothing about
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  Speaker 1: that that normalizes it. There's no behavior that is normal
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  Speaker 1: that anyone would say something like that about. If you
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  Speaker 1: have violent impulses toward people and you just want to
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  Speaker 1: take them out on the weak minded, you can admit
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  Speaker 1: that like that's and probably you should seek help for it,
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  Speaker 1: just like I've suggested with these people. But don't pretend
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  Speaker 1: that suggesting something is weird and sick and that people
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  Speaker 1: should be seeking help for it and not hiding in
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  Speaker 1: forums and talking about it with each other like you know,
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  Speaker 1: friends with the same problem and reinforcing each other like that's.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty idiotic. It's one of the most idiotic arguments
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  Speaker 1: people make against mental health treatment. That you would say,
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  Speaker 1: somebody has murderous impulses, it's better if a psychiatrist can
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  Speaker 1: help them unpack that, overcome those impulses and possibly eliminate them.
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  Speaker 1: Then to have them go kill someone and go to
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  Speaker 1: jail and that person's dead and this person's no longer
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  Speaker 1: going to pay taxes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I bear in mind a lot of these people
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  Speaker 3: have been to school, you know, ordinary state schools where
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  Speaker 3: they've been subjected to teachers who will at the very
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  Speaker 3: least implicitly give you the impression that it's okay for
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  Speaker 3: adults to impose their sexual deviance on on children. And
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  Speaker 3: and if you can just sort of take them out
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  Speaker 3: of that environment and sort of go Sorry to tell
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  Speaker 3: you this, but you've been lied to and groomed, then
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  Speaker 3: you should probably do that. And not just in schools,
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  Speaker 3: you know, there's this there's a lot of people who
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  Speaker 3: have been subjected to the views of their single mothers
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  Speaker 3: who have also been to these schools, and and and
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  Speaker 3: have and and have seen nothing but the mainstream media
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  Speaker 3: that has also only gone on to verify and normalize
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  Speaker 3: these these sicknesses. And yeah, it's it is possible to
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  Speaker 3: undo these sicknesses if you take if you take them
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  Speaker 3: on board as soon as possible and slap that share
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  Speaker 3: out of them. Not not literally, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, it's it's almost the opposite. There's a high high
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  Speaker 1: degree of victimization by adults in the during during childhood,
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  Speaker 1: in the histories of a sexual deviants who offend. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's higher than is normally present among people who don't offend.
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  Speaker 1: So more people per capita more offenders have been molested
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  Speaker 1: or otherwise sexually abused or exploited as children than non offenders,
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  Speaker 1: and that indicates that there is something about being being
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  Speaker 1: molested that makes you more likely to offend. So would
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  Speaker 1: you suggest, in order to avoid the normalization of saying
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  Speaker 1: that there's something wrong with these people and that their
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  Speaker 1: thought pattern is messed up and they should be treated
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  Speaker 1: out of it by medicine, Which I still don't understand
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  Speaker 1: how that's normalization, because we don't say that about mentally
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  Speaker 1: healthy people. But so would the people that suggest that
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  Speaker 1: we avoid providing a way out, a therapeutic way out
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  Speaker 1: of these thought patterns to people who have been molested
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  Speaker 1: suggest that we just when we find out a kid's
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  Speaker 1: been molested, that we just put them down. Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 1: asking for a friend.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I often talk about the wood chipper,
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  Speaker 3: and yeah, there are many cases in which there is
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  Speaker 3: no choice but the wood chipper. But let's not forget
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  Speaker 3: it's very easy to falsely accuse people of these crimes,
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  Speaker 3: especially men, and I get the feeling this is what
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  Speaker 3: governments very often do. For all the people that we've heard,
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  Speaker 3: you know, accused of of having terror bytes of pawn
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  Speaker 3: on their hard drive. I you know, sometimes I think
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  Speaker 3: terror bytes? Are there even terror bytes of CP anywhere
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  Speaker 3: in the world. I mean, when you think about a
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  Speaker 3: fucking terribyte drive, you can fit almost early any Hollywood
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  Speaker 3: movie ever made on a terrbyte drive, Like why does
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  Speaker 3: anyone need terror bytes of CP? And that always makes
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  Speaker 3: me think, hmmm, maybe that shit's been planted on someone
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  Speaker 3: who just said the wrong thing, someone who criticized the government.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I'm not saying that, you know, there
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  Speaker 3: aren't people with gigabytes of CP on the hard drive.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that's feasible, but when it comes you know,
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  Speaker 3: if if you if you set up any crimes as
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  Speaker 3: though it's something that can instantly get you, you know,
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  Speaker 3: locked up and possibly even wood Sheppard. And you need
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  Speaker 3: to be very careful when it comes to how easy
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  Speaker 3: it is.
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  Speaker 1: To Yeah, it's becoming easy.
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  Speaker 3: Accused people and plant it on them, just like just
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  Speaker 3: like the police can plant drugs on someone. It's not
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  Speaker 3: is it.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't have to go to the police. Did you know that
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  Speaker 1: Jodiarius tried to do that to her victim? Of course
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  Speaker 1: she put she went and found VP and put it
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  Speaker 1: on his his computer. They figured out that she had
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  Speaker 1: done it, but it's because she was an amateur. Somebody
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  Speaker 1: who actually knows what they're doing, say somebody uh from
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  Speaker 1: from a you know, organization or an agency with maybe
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  Speaker 1: three letters, they would be able to do it very easily.
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  Speaker 1: And there have been instances where they have done things
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  Speaker 1: just like that and been caught. So that is that
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  Speaker 1: is a consideration as well. But so uh the the
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  Speaker 1: other question then, since we shouldn't treat mental health conditions
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  Speaker 1: because it opens the door to giving people who have
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  Speaker 1: impulses they don't like that aren't considered dangerous to other people, uh,
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  Speaker 1: and out where they might seek treatment to overcome those impulses.
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  Speaker 1: Does that Does that also include uh, obsessive compulsive disorder
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  Speaker 1: and obsessive compulsive personality disorder because uh, again I'm asking
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  Speaker 1: for a friend. This is this is getting a little dumb, right.
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  Speaker 1: We have to be able to recognize that childhood trauma
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  Speaker 1: and other causes of trauma and mental health conditions are
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  Speaker 1: caused by a lot of things. There could be genetics involved,
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  Speaker 1: there could be injuries involved. Brain injuries can cause mental
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  Speaker 1: some mental health conditions that treatment for things that are
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  Speaker 1: actually harmful doesn't become unmerited just because some slippery slope
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  Speaker 1: argument says, well you could you could be going into
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  Speaker 1: conversion therapy for your homosexuality or whatever. It's a bullshit argument.
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  Speaker 1: You can sort out what is necessary and right from
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  Speaker 1: what is overkilled, and there is no reason to argue
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  Speaker 1: as if human he doesn't have the capacity to do that.
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  Speaker 1: The more important thing to do is argue that humanity
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  Speaker 1: is obligated to use its capacity to do that. But
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  Speaker 1: in terms of in terms of this discussion, we've gone
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  Speaker 1: off the off the rails here a little bit. The
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  Speaker 1: point is journalists, when they are looking at stories like this,
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  Speaker 1: like that that guy that Charlotte brought, he didn't do
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: anything to protect children from that guy, and he didn't
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: do anything to help that guy become a non threat,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: to become someone that you don't have to protect children
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: from him because he's not going to do anything to them.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: He did none of those things. He did nothing to
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: benefit society by bringing that guy. His entire goal and
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: he met that goal was to smear innocent people by association,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: and it worked. There have been people for the last
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: gosh thirteen years, just about the last twelve years that
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: have shoved that article in our faces, like every time
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: the Men's Rights Movement or ICMI or anything like that
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: comes up, and that that doesn't go away, right. I
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: remember when he interviewed me. He talked to me for
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: more than an hour, but I recorded the conversation, and
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: so he didn't use my interview now my phone malfunctioned.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: He didn't know the recording didn't work. He just knew
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: that if he lied about me, there was at least
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: a significant chance that I could prove it was a lie.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: So he didn't publish anything because he couldn't say anything bad.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: The thing that you need to do if somebody approaches
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: you for an article like this, and I don't care
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: if it's somebody from you know, the mainstream Newsweek, CNN,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: any anything like that, vice the establishment media, the left
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: wing media. I don't care if it's somebody from the
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: right wing establishment media like Fox News or the newer
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: establishment mediah one American news like in in the United
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: States or anyplace else. The Guardian, the Daily Mail. Oh,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: what's the one that comes out of Russia that everybody's like, Oh,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: you got you got published in that You're you're communist
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: from Russia? Which is ironic. But any of those you record,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: always be recording because they're going to do this. And
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: so when we're reading through this article, I want you
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: to remember that, like her comment about the guy having
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: ketchup on his face, it's entirely possible and quite likely
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: in fact, that that never happened. The conversations that are
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: published in this article, maybe they happened. It's possible that
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: they happened, because I mean, Charlotte, he kind of sought out,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: he went looking for that guy. That guy didn't contact him.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: He contacted that guy. So these guys will, these writers will,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: they'll seek out the worst examples that they can then
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: attempt to associate with and use to color your opinion
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: of the movement. That is part of the smear tactics.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: That's part of the hit piece. Rtie.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Lake Coyote. That was a wily answer, but
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: that was correct, rt is what I was thinking of
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: any of those, if you have somebody approach you, I
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: want to do an interview for this publication or that
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: radio show or this live stream or TV show or whatever,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, always be recording.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: This all.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: What we're reading, this all could be fabricated. It could
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: be made up whole cloth, and we wouldn't know because
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: it's damn difficult to hold the writer accountable if you
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: don't have proof, especially if it's an American publication. You
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: have to have proof not just that they lied, but
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: there are damages from the lie. So if you if
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: somebody writes a hit piece about you, and you can't
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: prove that you got fired because of it, or uh
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: you got you know, your your bank canceled you and
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: said you have to take your money somewhere else or
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: some other inconvenience that could cost you money, and and
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you can't prove that you suffered that loss of money
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: and are deserving of some sort of compensation to make
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: up for that, then you you don't have a case
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: in in American courts for for defamation, for slander, for libel.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Libel is really hard because we have free speech and
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: it does include the right to lie about other people,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: believe it or not, as long as that lie doesn't
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: rise to the level of causing damages. And if you
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: say something is that's true about somebody then and it
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: causes damages, you then have to prove that it was
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: not the business of the people, like you shouldn't have
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: had the the cause to say it was it the
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: business of the people that you lied to to hear
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: that that it was. You know, like somebody, if somebody
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: takes pain medicine that's a narcotic, it's privately or it's
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: it's medical privacy. You're not supposed to be sharing that
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: with everybody in the world, right And so if somebody
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: has damages because you said, oh, by the way, x
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: y Z person in at this job or at this
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: address or whatever is on methadone and you know, or
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: percocets or whatever the variety of different pain medications, there
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: are somebody breaks into their house to steal it. You know,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: then you know there might be damages even though it's true.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: But it's even harder two to get somebody who like
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: honey traps you and then writes about it in a
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: way that makes it sound worse than it is when
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: they're telling the truth and they're just framing it as
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: some you know, you being a pervert for being honey trapped.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: So all of that, like it's it's quite heinous behavior
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: and journalists know they can get away with it, and
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: you should never ever just trust what you see. And
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: in an interview or an expose a where somebody has
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: spent a day with a group of people and they're
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: writing about the kind of person that that that that
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: those people are and the kind of people that might
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: be associated with them and so on. Right, So with
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: that in mind, we will go on here and and
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: read about this this Alex guy that that she has
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: talked about. And remember, this is the guy that she
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: said talked about hypergamy and was upset. She characterized him
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: being upset about being lumped in with violent men as
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: if he was one of them when he hasn't done anything,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: and said he had ketchup on his face instead of
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: talking about what he was saying and what its implications
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: actually are. So she goes on, he had just said
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: a thing about men getting excluded from social circles if
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: they don't have status, they don't have money. He had
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: just talked about hypergamy. And for anyone who wasn't listening
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: last week, the basic understanding of hypergamy would be marrying
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: up financially or marrying up socially. Somebody who has more
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: it is more socially important than the woman is before
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: she gets married, even if he's not rich, or somebody
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: who has more money makes more money than she does.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: And interesting note, by the way, younger women are having
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: a harder time engaging in hypergamy because there is no
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: wage gap, and there hasn't been a wage gap for decades.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: There is only an earnings gap, and that is only
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: for women who don't do the work that men do.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: So it's not equal work.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: It depends where you draw the lines. I mean, the
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: wage gap has always been drawn along the lines of
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: that men work harder working jobs than women, they work
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: more hours than women. And nowadays you have fucking millions
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: of jobs that are essentially just adult day care for
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: women where they go in every day and they do
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: but fuck nothing and they get paid untimely fucking wages
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: for doing that nothing, and men don't have that option,
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Like if men want to get employed, but employed by
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: a company, they have to actually do something. I'm sure
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: there are like male HR representatives in some companies, but
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: it is it is mostly women because because we've had
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: not just DEI, but the equivalent of DEI that's been
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: going on for long since before it was called DEI.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: It was enforced for the sake of employing women, long
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: before it was enforced for the sake of employing racial minorities.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: By the way, it's going on since the nineties, and
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: probably before that. So if you take that into account,
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: if anything, there is a wage gap that favors women
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: because because of all these millions of women who are
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: getting paid to do but fuck nothing, whereas men in
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: the same jobs, as they like to call it, I'm
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: not going to be able to keep those jobs unless
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: they actually do something. When when when you factor in
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: the jobs where people don't fucking do anything other than
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: you know, harass people for being male, then if anything,
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: the wage gap favors women. There are many countries in
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: in in which the wage gap already favors women, even
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: without taking that into Denmark I think is one of
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: them where where the wage gap actually favors women, presumably
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: because because they're factoring in something or other. I say,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: it's because we have all these useless jobs that women
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: are doing, and men are still doing all of the
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: incredibly useful I mean indispensable jobs like actually keeping the
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: infrastructure going.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: And most farmers and ranchers are men. Actually growing your
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: food as long as.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Your own as long as your own of jobs that
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: men do.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Who built your house? Men? Men build your house, Men
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: built your apartment building. Men built the roads that you
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: drive on or that you know, ride the bus on
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: to get to and from work. Men built the bus.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Men built your car. Men. Men built the uber that
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: you're calling. Men produce the electricity, did the work to
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: produce the electricity that you use in your home and
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: your workplace. They're the reason that you have water. They're
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: the reason the water is clean. They're the reason that
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: when the water is dirty, it gets taken away from
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: your house to a place where it gets re cleaned
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: and sanitized. Right. They're the reason why you can have
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: You can choose to eat your house with electricity, or
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: you can choose to eat your house with natural gas.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: They're the reason. They're the reason why when when food
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: is grown and produced and harvested, they're the ones harvesting
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: it that it gets transported to warehouses, stored there, guarded there,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: and then transported to grocery stores. They're the ones that
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: set up a system to make sure that there's nothing
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: wrong with it, or at least not anything so wrong
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: with it that you can't eat it. Uh and and
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: they are the ones, generally speaking, who created the grocery systems.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: And you know, aside from a few situations the I
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: can't think of her name, but the woman who initially
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: inherited mar Lago recognized the innovativeness of one man's work
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: freezing uh freeze flash freezing fish and other frozen foods,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: and incorporated it into her family's grocery business. But she
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: was still basically just helping a man's work be delivered
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: to the rest of the population. So where women have contributed,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: they have contributed in between things that would never have
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: happened without men.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: So yeah, if you can, if you consider the wages
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: that people get against the capital that they're actually producing,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: the work that men do generally produces the raw materials
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: and you know, and the food and the energy and stuff,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: versus the wages that they're getting, I would imagine most
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: women are taking far more wages than they produce in capital.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: So if you factor all that in the wage gap
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: in terms of wage versus capital, I mean seventy seven
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: a fucking joke, I imagine it's close to ten percent
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: that the amount of boost to the economy that women
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: are actually producing versus the wages they actually get. I
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: mean it's a minuscule.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: It's yeah, women, women, men. Men create wealth, women spend it,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: and that's that's That's kind of how it's gone throughout
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: the entire industrial age. So it becomes harder for women, though,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: to to be hypergamous if women are getting paid thousands
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: of dollars a year to basically do nothing but deny
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: workers' comp claims and make payroll late. As what happens
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: when you get men in HR is payroll comes out
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: on time. If people have questions about their sick days,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: they get answered the same day that they get the email.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: As somebody calls and wants to know about company benefits,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: the employee that they're talking to actually knows what they're
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: talking about and and doesn't give incorrect answers, and then
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: come back later and say, well, you're supposed to to
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: already know that it's in your handbook that we don't
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: give you that you have to ask us for a
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: link to online to find out the information. FMLA gets
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: properly applied and tracked, And like I've I've seen all
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: these problems happen with women in HR where they it
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: didn't didn't occur to them that a holiday was coming,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: and so payroll ended up being late because they didn't
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: do the correct preparations. Or one of my coworkers almost
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: lost her job because they didn't properly apply and track
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: her f m L a time. And you know, I like,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I've I've seen that.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: That was.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: That was when I worked at the gas station. It
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: was really bad too, because she did her end of everything.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: She she did her homework, she did everything she was
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: supposed to do, and HR dropped the ball at that company.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: It was a big company too, right, like they've they've
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: had a long run of business. We'll just I'll just
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: say that. Uh and and uh, they just completely whiffed
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: on on her and we almost lost a good coworker
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: because of it. But uh yeah, when you get men
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: in HR actually do the job. But usually you also
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: they're usually either older and more experienced, or they have
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: expertise in something else, and they end up in HR
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: because there's a recession, or they've been injured, and they
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: end up in HR because they can't do what they
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: used to do anymore. And yeah, women in HR will
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: demand men or deny men parentally. Even then you have
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: to appeal it because most companies don't allow you to
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: deny that.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: And the worst part is, depending on how long the
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: bureaucracy has been under control of Democrats, even the Equal
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Opportunities Commission isn't always help with that. But so let's
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: get into this, this pile of bullshit. This this is
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: put your hip waiters on, guys. This is getting going
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: to be deep. So she points out Alex doesn't have
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: status in quotes. Uh, he's been out of work for
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: a while and lives in a council house on benefits.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: He hasn't had a girlfriend in many years and has
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: given up looking for one. So what she is describing there,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: he hasn't had a girlfriend in many years and has
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: given up looking for one. That is an insult. She
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: is going to try to use him to paint in
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Cels as stupid, lazy, not not very bright, you know,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: like not just stupid in terms of not intelligent, but
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: making dumb choices and having inappropriate, disapproved, verbotan opinions.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: She just described, she discribed she described my life.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit in the in the in the
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: in the power of.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Well, the only thing that's missing is uh, having a
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: disability as the reason. Yeah, and she might you know, Alex,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: this Alex that she's you know, whatever his real name is,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: might have that same circumstance because aren't aren't a significant
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: number of in culs artistic.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but they will didn't, but they will deny that
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: they're autistic, some of them all.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Sorry, and at least by no means do you need
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: to be disabled to have found yourself in in that
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: circumstance circumstance as a man, a normal man will will
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: will find himself going yeah, no, I it's I don't
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: have the six figures in any of the any of
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: the parameters, don't have any of the sexes.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: So go on.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: Getting on benefits in the UK as a man, it's
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: very difficult even for me. You're getting on discipline. I
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: was rejected three times.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: So use on benefits. The chances are he's probably disabled.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: You don't have to be disabled to be on benefits
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: in the UK, you don't. We've got to think called
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: you know, we've got to think called universal credit that
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: people can apply for so unless and that covers like
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: people four months, but you have to look for a
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: job by on universal credit. Well, the disability. You don't
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: really have to look for a job.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: You just have to go to the job center and say, hey,
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: I'm looking for a job. Can you help find a job?
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: And they'll feign this helping you find a job, and
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: as long as you show them like like ten or
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: twenty instances of you applying for a job over the
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: space of the month, they'll go all right, his, his, his,
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: your council taxes, here's like one hundred and fifty quid
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: a month or something, and we'll keep doing this until
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: you actually get a job. It's I was on jobs
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: because once upon a time when I when I like
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: moved to London and I was between jobs, and I'm
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: glad for it because I used my spare time to
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: learn how to animate.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, See, in the US, we have
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: two different systems, well, three different systems. We have one
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: for disability, but when you're not disabled, we have two
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: different systems to help you, depending on how you ended
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: up jobless and what your circumstance was right before you
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: ended up jobless. So like if you're laid off from
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: an employer without a recall date, even if you do
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: have a recalled eate, there's there's unemployment, but if you
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: don't have a recalled date, things are a little bit
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: different than if you do. Recall date is like, yeah,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: you're laid off for the next ninety days and then
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: we get back. And some factories do that because they
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: have dry seasons where they don't have as many orders,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: and then they have busy seasons where they have more orders. So,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: for instance, I used to work at a place called
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Consolidated Biscuit and they made cookies, but they also made
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: they they packaged potato chips. I think they made the
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: potato chips there. I just never saw the part where
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: they do that. I just saw the packaging park because
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: the conveyor belt area that I worked in was mostly
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: the packaging area. But they did oh gosh, one of
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: the things we packaged. I can't think of the STUPI
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: stupid name. It sounds like wellness. It's something I don't
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: buy and eat because it's it's you know, prepackaged cookies
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: and stuff. We don't get a lot of those, like
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: on occasion, but not very much because I like to
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: make my own, Like half the fun of having cookies
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: is making them. I don't I don't understand why people
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: don't get that. But in any case, we used to.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: We used to package a whole bunch of different stuff
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: like that, and and it would go out and part
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: of the year we would get you know, shit tons
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: of orders, and they would have a big workforce and
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: everybody was full time, and sometimes there was mandatory overtime
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: and everything, and then there was this three months yeah,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: prepackaged wellness, next night motorcyclists. They're totally not by the way,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: so I won't say the brand name. But in any case,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: you know, the three months out of the year, uh,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: they would cut the workforce almost in half, and everybody
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: was still full time, that was working, but for you know,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: about ninety days you would be you'd be laid off.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: And if they knew they were bringing you back for
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: the next round, you got a recall date. But if
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: they weren't sure, like maybe your rate was too low
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: or whatever, then you didn't get a recall date. But
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: you still get recalled if they didn't get enough applicants.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: And so if the economy was really good, people who
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: didn't do a great job could could still come back
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: and they would be employed for nine months out of
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: the year and they'd be on unemployment for three months
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: out of the year. But if the economy sucked and
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: you didn't get a recall date where it was that
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: you should be looking for a different job. And if
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: you're on unemployment, you must every week apply for a job,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: and you have paperwork that you had to fill out.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Now this this is me talking about. This would have
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: been nineteen ninety six, ninety five somewhere in there, and
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: that was with a recalled eight. You still had to
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: apply for jobs every week, but the job had to
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: offer more than what your job would was paying. And
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I was told that if I didn't have a recalled eate,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: I would have had to The stipulation would have been,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: you have to take whatever comes along, because you're not
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: quitting a job to take that other job. They're not
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: saying they're going to bring you back, so you have
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: to take whatever, or you're if you're not in compliance
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: and you're not gonna get your your benefits. And so
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: the trick that people would use would be to apply
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: for stuff that they didn't qualify for but that you know,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: paid more than their job, because they didn't want to
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: apply for anything that would be a lower pay in
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: case they got hired and and then they wouldn't have
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to go back to the factory. So personally,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: you know, I looked for higher paying job anyway, and
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: I looked for something that didn't lay off when I
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: found all that out, because I don't want to be
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: laid off. But there was a whole community of people
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: that worked for that factory, like a whole little you know,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: network that ordered the way that they worked in their
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: lives and everything around collecting unemployment for three months out
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: of the year, and they treated it like a vacation.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: And all I could think of was, you know, that
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: kind of sucks, right, because you're you're essentially screwing yourself
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: out of half of your wages for three months out
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: of the year instead of finding a better job. I
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: found a better job right away, by the way. So
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: that's that's essentially how that works. But the other end
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: of it is just straight up various types of welfare.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: If you are under the poverty level under well, actually
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: you can be at a I think one hundred and
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: fifty percent the poverty level and get food stamps here.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: But if you're under the income levels that the state decides,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: you know, merit getting assistance. There's all kinds of you
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: can get cash assistance. There's housing assistance. There's assistance making
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: your utility payments if you're poor. There's assistance getting to
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: and from work. There's assistance with childcare, and there are
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: people who get assistance with childcare despite not working. There's
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: assistance with getting a degree, getting job training you know
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: outside of a degree, getting a job, getting a car,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: keeping your car running, getting refrigerator. Like, it's so many
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: different programs out there that you would not believe, and
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: there are people who make use of as many of
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: those programs as they possibly can. They maximize everything by
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: staying the specific amount under the poverty level that puts
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: them at maximum payout from the government will still having
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: some income, and since they're working, they don't have to
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: apply for any employment. If you don't have any employment,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: if you're not working at least part time, and you
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: do these these programs, then they make you donate work.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: And it's you know, like you go to goodwill and
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: you sort items at goodwill, or you go to a
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: certain church organisations and you work in a soup kitchen,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: or you know, there are a couple of other different
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: things that they have out there. You might work in
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: a food pantry, you know, which is different from a
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: soup kitchen, and that a soup kitchen serves a meal
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: at a time, where a food pantry sends home canned
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: goods and boxed goods and stuff like that, and even
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: fresh produce and stuff like All that gets donated either
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: in cash to the food pantry and then they go
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: buy it, or it gets donated by people in the
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: public or or by local grocery stores. I have it
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: set up. I let Kroger take my data, and you
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: know what I buy, They know what I buy, they
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: know what to market to me and stuff like that,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: and then in my name they donate to the local
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: food bank. And it's one of those things. I know
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: they're going to get my data even if I don't
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: sign up for that. But if I do sign up
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: for that, I get they don't charge me as much
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: for some some of my groceries sometimes. So it's it's
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: either you you get your data stolen and you get
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: nothing for it, or you get your data stolen you
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: get something for it. So when I shop there, I'm donating,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: but I don't. They're not the only place that I shop.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: There's a neat little market here in the Dayton area
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: called Dorothy Lane Market that has a lot better groceries.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: But in any case, all of that, when it comes
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: down to it, it's all specialized depending on what your
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: circumstances are. And men are funding all of it with
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: their tax dollars and uh for the most part, the
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: majority of people that are benefiting from it, because there's
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of those benefits payments, those charities from the
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: government that you have to have custody of dependence in
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: order to be eligible for it, dependent children. You can't
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: be a working, age able bodied adult and receive it
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: without working, you know. So mostly it's families with children
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: or single moms with children.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Men are much less likely to rely on any of
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: that stuff. Now, it's not true with disability. With disability,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: you just have to be disabled. You have to prove
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: that you're disabled, and the government makes it hard as
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: hell to do that, like I've seen I've literally seen
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: them deny people who were able to see and lost
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: their eyesight. Because some people blind from birth are not
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: disabled by it. And obviously the difference is if you
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: grow up blind from birth, you have an opportunity to
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: learn to navigate the world without your eyes. But if
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: you get to like thirty years old and you lose
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: your eyesight suddenly due to an accident, it's not the same.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: You don't have any idea how to navigate the world
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: that way. But the argument was that some people who
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: are blind or not disabled, So you have to prove
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: that being blind disabled you. But if the individual it
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: was blind from birth, if their family had applied for
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: them when they were a kid, they would have gotten disability.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: So remember, we used to have this fun, we used
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: to have this fun part of game. What would be
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: worse being blind or being deaf? And this was something
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: worth discussing back in the day before everyone was using
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: computers and screens of the incident all the time, and
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: nowadays it's just yeah, well, I clearly blind would be worse,
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: because how the fuck are you supposed to use a
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: computer when you're Oh, there's there's quite a number of
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: there's there's some ways. Yeah, but if like you said,
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: if if you're not used to it, then it's it's
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: this whole fucking overhaul. Everything has to go through some
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: kind of text to speech stuff, and it's uh.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's exactly what it is. You can there
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: are devices that that can help you if you're if
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: you're blind, but yeah, that are that are that are
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: now being improved by computers and even AI, especially with
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: the use of little cameras and everything.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: Similarly, if you're deaf, you know, there are devices now
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: that can assist you in ways that that people who
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: were in any type of hearing impaired they wouldn't have
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: had that, you know, twenty or thirty years ago, or
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: even five years ago. There are a lot of neat
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: things that computers can do, as long as they're not
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: being exploited to to doom the masses to a police state,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: which is what's happening here in the US right now.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: They're even talking about using people's personal security systems to
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: track the movements of people their neighbors and people in
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: their neighborhood without their consent like that, that's on the
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: table right now. People have gotten mad about it. Amazon
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: was talking about doing it, and they protested them out
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: of it for a while at least for now. But
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. I think these people want this,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: they'll they'll find a way to do it. In any case.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: But getting back to that, so she doesn't go into
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: what what is the reason why if Alex actually does
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: live in a council house on benefits, why why is
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: he any council house on benefits? Is he unemployed? Is
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: he off temporarily from a company? Is he disabled?
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Was he raised by a single mom in a man
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: desert and she never taught him how to get a job, Like,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: we don't know any of that. We don't know any
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: of that history. We don't know. We don't even know
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: if this just happened to him or if that's been
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: his whole life. She says, he sleeps weird hours. I
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: feel I feel called out here. He sleeps weird hours
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: and plays video games in the day and night. I
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: scrub toilets in the middle of the night. Sometimes I
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: play video games on my phone if I don't have
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: work to do. Uh, but not very often, because I
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: almost always have work to do after we eat.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: You can get paid for playing video games, by the way,
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: A lot of people do on Twitch.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Just saying yeah, yeah, that's true. Well I can't. I
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: can't do that because I'm playing. When I do that,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: I'm playing like fifteen minutes at a time, you know,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: while I'm having my lunch at three o'clock in the
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: morning at somebody else's house as a direct support professional
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: for intellectually disabled adults, where it is fairly normal for
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: them to be on some degree of disability in other
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: public assistants, because that's what it was made for. But
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: in any case, Yeah. Although Alex doesn't define himself as
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: an inceell, he claims to have moved past the sexual
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: desperation of his youth. His views sound pretty similar to one.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Notice his consent doesn't matter here. He has an identity right.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: He does not identify as an inceel, which means he's
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: identified since he has stopped looking for a girlfriend. He's
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: identifying his celibacy as voluntary. But does the writer give
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: him permission to self identify? No, because his consent is
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: not required for her to identify him for you know,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: his his own benefit. He is now identified by her
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: as an insult.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: You know, I recently discovered the German word for island
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: island is in cell, which is funny because as they say,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: no man is no man is an island, na manner
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: is an in cell.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: There we go WI.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: He posts about men's rights on his ex account and
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: enjoys reporting feminists for transphobia. Now, when this was written
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: and when Musk first took over Twitter, it took it
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: took a few months for him to change the uh,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: the rules it for a while, you know, like you
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: can't really report somebody for transphobia. They will they they
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: won't do anything about it now. But when he first
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: took over, if somebody misgendered you, uh, and you reported
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: them for it, which I preferred to just make fun
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: of them for it. But if if they misgendered you know,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: a trans woman or transman, they would report them for
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: it and their account would get banned. So there are
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: feminists who are anti trans who they're mis indry, anti trans.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: They don't object to trans men the same way they
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: object to trans women. Their objection to trans women is
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: that it's men usurping women's place right. But their objection
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: to trans men is that it is women being pushed
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: into living like a man. So trans men they would
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: treat like victims. Trans women they would treat like perpetrators
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: or some wrong thing. And so they would deliberately get
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: into confrontations with people within the trans community and deliberately
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: misgender them, dead, name them whatever to piss them off
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: and make them feel hurt. And of course it all
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: surrounds the bathroom argument. And my simple answer to the
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: bathroom argument is i'm. You know, I'm. The law has
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: to go both ways. If you're going to arrest trans
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: women for using the women's bathroom, then you must also
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: arrest every woman who uses the men's bathroom to skip
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: the line for the lady's room. And if you are
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: not going to do that, then you're not treating men
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: and women equally under the law. Problem solved fifty percent
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: of women. Just about fifty percent of women admit to
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: using the men's bathroom for that or other reasons. And
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: I will point out one other thing about that. Right
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: you walk into a public bathroom for women, there will
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: be a row of sinks. If there's more than one toilet,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: there'll be a row of sinks, and there will be
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: a row of stalls with walls in between them and
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: doors on the front and an outer wall, so you
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: can't see the toilet unless you open the door. If
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: you you know somebody's in there, all you see is
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: a pair of feet sticking out below the height of
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: the toilet right, and it's usually high up enough that
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: you would have to be very obvious about it if
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: you wanted to climb up and look down, and it's
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: the wall usually goes down far enough that you'd have
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: to be pretty obvious about it if you wanted to
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: peek in underneath. So there's not anybody exposed to the
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: public that's in there. Everybody that's dropping trow is inside
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: a little cubicle with a door. But in the men's room,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: if you go into a men's bathroom that has more
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: than one unit for elimination, there will be that same
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: row sinx, you know, mirrors and all that. There will
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: be maybe some stalls with toilets, and then there's urinals,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: and the urinals are just right out there, fully exposed.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Often there's not even a little wall in between the urinals.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: I know this as a person who has had to
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: clean bathrooms. Right you walk in, you better make sure
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: it's empty before you walk in. If you're female and
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: you're gonna clean that bathroom, because you could embarrass the
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: shit out of some guy. And there's a particular type
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: of crime if you go into a public bathroom to
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: google somebody's private parts. That is called voyeurism, And if
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: you do it accidentally, you can still get accused of it. Right,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: if you do it accidentally in a women's room, you
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: go in and somebody's sitting there on the toilet with
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: the door wide open, it's not their fault, it's your fault. Right,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: if you're a guy and you get busted for that,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: why you shouldn't have been in there, right, But women
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: will go in, they will not even knock. They just
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: walk right into the men's bathroom. They don't they'll walk
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: right past men who are sitting there trying to shield
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: themselves and maintain dignity at the urinals, and they will
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: completely ignore all complaints. They'll actually I've had women get
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: outraged at me for bringing this up, that you are
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: essentially committing voyeurism anytime you walk into a men's bathroom
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: as a woman and there are patrons in the bathroom
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: using the urinals, and if one of them is underage,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: you're committing voyeurism against an underage person, Like you should
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: stay out of there, that's their space. But women won't
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: do that, And yet they complain that trans women are
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: biological males using the women's restrooms so they can see
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: what's hidden behind closed doors even after they walk into
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: the restroom, Like, you can't kick them in the face
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: if they stick their head under the door. Sorry, I'm
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: not I hate to say this, but I think the
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: issue is dramatically overblown. But yeah, so he probably enjoyed
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: reportings for miss gendering and stuff like that and probably
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: got a few of them banned. If again, this is real.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: He's not personally invested in the conflict between feminists about
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: trans rights, but if it's a way to get some
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: of them banned, why not. On his YouTube channel, he
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: discusses the marriage trap and hell men are persecuted. You
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: should do a series with me. He says, feminism has
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: a meltdown over men's rights. We get lots of views.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: He says, you could get famous. Never heard of this guy?
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: But okay, And of course here again she will not
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: discuss the marriage trap, right, Alex.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: He gets semi famous on the internet. Yeah, I mean
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: there's like a one chance. Well, if if you're particularly
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: for both in a certain way, you could get z
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: list celebrity famous on the Internet. Let's just ignore that.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: If you indulge in feminism, you can get famous in Hollywood.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: You could become the fucking prime minister or whatever it
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: is in your country of choice. Like the people have
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: got famous for feminism for the last fifty years or so,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: uppards of one hundred and and they've got famous from lying.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: But yeah, some guy goes, you know, if if you,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: if you actually tell the truth about about these these
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: these gender subjects, then you might find what is it?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: I think it's roughly forty people are listening to us
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: right now. Yeah, roughly forty two people. Lol, it's forty two.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, forty two people because we're the answer.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: It's because we're the answer. Some people like the answers,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: a tiny minority of people like the unpleasant answer. But
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: literally millions of people, if not billions, will make you
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: famous because of the wrong answer. And that's why this
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: ship has flooded our universities and our mass media. So
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: whatever point you're trying to make, lady, it might have
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: blown up in your face there if for a moment
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: you examine what you're saying and what the truth is.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: But never mind, Yeah, she won't examine the the bit
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: about the marriage trap, that's for sure. And here here's
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: how it goes right. Let's let's imagine you go into
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: a business looking for a financial arrangement. You're going to
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: go to a bank and make a financial arrangement so
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: that you know you'll have money to start a business with.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: Or you go to a company and your financial arrangement
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: is I will work for you, and you will pay
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: me money and give me insurance benefits and such. And
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: they hand you a contract. Right and at the top
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: of the contract it says, you are bound by this contract,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: but we are not. Would you sign it because I wouldn't.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't sign a contract that put me in that situation.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: I am bound by this contract, but the person I'm
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: making the contract with can just quit at any time.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, underneath it, it says, if
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: we break the contract, you still have to hold up
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: your end of it. You're still bound by the contract.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: It's not dissolved. Our side of the contract is not dissolved.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: Even if we abandon it with impunity, you still have
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: to do your in. So the bank says we can,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: we can take your collateral for the loan, but you
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: still have to pay us back. Even if we are
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: completely compensated by that collateral. We can give you bad
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: credit reports even if you're making your payments on time,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: and there's nothing you can do about it, right, and
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: we can just debank you without warning, but you still
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: have to keep your money here and uh, it's ours
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: now and you're not allowed to spend it. Would you
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: sign that, because I don't think I would sign that either,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: or your employer. Your employer might say, oh, well, we
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: could fire you and we don't have to pay you
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: anymore after we fire you, but you still have to
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: come to work every day and do your job. That's
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: how firing works in this contract. Would you sign that
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: because I would not sign that. I don't think I would.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: And those are all things that are applicable to what
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: men are signing up for if they get married. Every
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: single one of.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: Them marriage decline anyway, Sorr. It's Valentine's Day apparently, Yep,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 5: this has been the low because no one bought anything
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: this Valentine's Day. I lead a woman did men just
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: checked out?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I can see why. I can see why women have
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: made demands after demands after demands for being treated like
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: something special, for having the legal system set up for
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: their benefit, and for being able to do reprehensible things
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: to their partner with impunity and then still expect their
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: partner to do everything that a partner does out of
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: love because they were once married. And I think women
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: are going to have to understand that's not how partnership works.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: And I don't think any woman would sign up for
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: that if the roles were reversed.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: The relationships are not going to happen like they once
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: did in a pause, and then it's going.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: To be on the decline.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is right now. In fact, the marriage rate
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: is down and the birth rate is down, and we're
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: looking at a massive decline at this point.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, hopefully women will notice the difference between the
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: men on the street just going up to them saying, oh,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: so beautiful, you are coming back to me. You give
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: me your beauty for.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 6: I do you you think and they'll sort of go, uh,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 6: maybe I can find the middle ground between those guys
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 6: and the guys who who are millionaires and.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: Are sex foot all and have sex packs.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: Like that's that's that middle ground for woman.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: That there hasn't been for the longest time because they've
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: been trained only to seek the absolute apex male, to
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: only climb up the ladder of hypergamy.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: But.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: Gone when you grow up, they just grow old h anymore.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very difficult. You know, there's the number of
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: women who reach adulthood is shrinking, and like I know
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: women personally that have reached adulthood. Yeah, I feel like
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: I have. But I it took me longer than it
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: should have. Yeah, it wait, took me way longer than
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: it did to be become legally an adult and legally
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: able to sign contracts and take in take out alone
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: and things like that as an adult. But heck, I
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: was almost thirty before I grew up. And I only
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: grew up because I became responsible for another person. And
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: the thing is, when we grow up as girls, we
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: don't get treated like we're responsible for the people around us,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe as older siblings. Like I was the
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: oldest kid in my family. There were just two of us,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: me and my little brother, and I was enough older
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: than him that I could be the responsible one. It
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: wasn't considered babysitting. It was really emphasized that I wasn't
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: the babysitter and I was not his boss. But if
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: we had something go wrong, I was the one you
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: know that was in charge if we were left home
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: alone for any period of time, and when we were
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: out in the neighborhood playing and stuff, because I was
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: the older kid. But when my brother and my our
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: friend and I were mugged by older kids for our
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: candy one Halloween when we were out trick or treating
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: the first year we went out without an adult. By
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: the way, I was like eleven years old and our
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: friend was ten, and my brother was nine, and he
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: broke a fourteen year old kid's nose to protect me
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: because he was the boy and I was the girl. Right,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: That's how That's how boys are raised. And if he
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: had not defended me, everyone in our neighborhood would have
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: treated him like he did not live up to his responsibilities.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: Was a nine year old third grader against a fourteen
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: year old freshman in high school. Granted, like I said,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: he did break that kid's nose, which you know it
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: was predicated too by like this slow mo. The kid
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: had grabbed my bag of candy and I had it.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: It was a pillowcase and I had the top part
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: of it wrapped around my wrist and was holding it
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: like I was going to use it. As a mace,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: because we knew we were going to get attacked at
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: the point when it happened, and this kid got me
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: from behind and dragged me down the sidewalk by my
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: bag of candy, which tightened around my wrist so I
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: literally couldn't let go and was sitting there trying to
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: yank it off of my arm yelling let go, let go,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: over and over again. And I was trying to maneuver
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: around so I could kick him and maybe get him
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: to stop so I could get myself loose and run
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: away from him. And my brother's feet come pounding along
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: the sidewalk, and I swear it sounded like the voice
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: of God coming out of this nine year old little
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: boy that's my sister. And the next thing I know,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: the back of his fist is an inch off of
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: my nose, and then he just launched it up into
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: that kid's face, and there's this split second of absolutely nothing,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: and then the kid's nose exploded, and of course blood
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: all over both of us. When Dad came to pick
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: us up at the whole of the little old lady
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: that came out and kind of chased off the bad
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: kids and took us inside and gave us cookies and
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: had us weight, you know, for a parent to come
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: and get us. The first thing he saw my brother,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: He's like, oh my god, where did all that blood
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: come from? This is the last year I ever heard
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: anybody say it's okay, it's not my blood. Like ten
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: years later, those were the most terrifying words a kid
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: could say to the parents whose blood is on you.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: You know, oh my god, we're going to the hospital.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: There's no vaccine, parraids, and for a long time that
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: was the scariest idea that you could get infected by
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: somebody else's blood, right, But yeah, it was. It was
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: his responsibility in nine years old to protect his sister,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: just because I was a girl. And even with those
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: boys being that big and that old, nobody would have
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: given him a pass. And it's one of those we
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: tell guys that they're guilty of toxic masculinity for being
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: stoic and tough and acting fearless when they're not fearless.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: That's being courageous in the face of something that a
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: woman would run away from, but we impose that on
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: them as a society. It's their responsibility to have toxic
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: so called toxic masculinity.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: And like I said, women tend to want above average men.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's not going to change evolutionarily anytime in
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: the next million years. But in the last few thousand years,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: men have improved on average in every given sense because
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: of men's innovations in state draft in improving not just
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: the technology but the general politeness of men. And this
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: is why Western women have noticed that all the men
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: around them, like even the working class up to and
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: including the upper class, have become so much more polite
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: and so much more accepting of women's behavior. And so
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: women looked across these these these men in the Western world,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: and they've gone, well, I want the above average of that, Like,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: it's not enough for me to have like a normal
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: working class man who's perfectly polite and perfectly respectful. I
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: want a six figure earning six packs six further. And
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: they're like, well, why wouldn't I want someone who's above
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: the average of that? But since a feminist policies have
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: flooded the country with men who don't really meet that standard,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: men who just who just come up to you in
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: the street and go, oh beautiful and all that. And
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: then if you if you don't follow them back to
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: their complementary hotel room, they fucking punch you out. I'm
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: thinking that there's a recent video of some guy in
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: Ireland who just walked past this woman and the just
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: punched her out for no particular reason, particularly because he's
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: come from a country where women don't just walk around
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: dress like hawes, and so if he sees a woman
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: dressed like a whore, he just punches her out. And
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: you can sort of see why. But you know it's
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: because women in the West have become so accustomed to
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: men just seeing average women walking around dress like cars,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: and they're like, Okay, I guess that's what women want
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: to do a lot of whatever. I'm gonna see if
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: I can ignore my impulses and hold out for a
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: woman who's just as respectable as I am. But because
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: we've flooded the country, and when I mean the country,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: I mean most western country, We've flooded the country with
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: men from other cultures who say their their average level
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: of politeness has not raised like it has in the West.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: There these are men from countries who I don't know
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: how to say this without, you know, sounding like a
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: traad con misundersted. But you know, the people were bringing
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: in from these countries tend to be criminals, I tend
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: to be men who don't really respect people's boundaries. And
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: so we flooded the country with men who will just
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: fucking knock you out if if you seem too immodest,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: they'll just knock you out if if you don't give
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: them what they want at a moment's notice. They think
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: if they just call you beautiful and say come back
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: to my place, then you're doing them some kind of disservice.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: And so hopefully, like I said, hopefully women will finally
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: finally realize that the average when it comes to men
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: is not the high average of Western men who will
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: who will just forgive you for all your horror. Ways,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: like when you take into account the men of the
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: third world, the average is kind of kind of much
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: lower than Like, there's a lot of men out there
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: who won't take your bullshit and and and your feminist policies,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: your euicophobic policies have have found you surrounded with those men.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: So hopefully they can they can reevaluate their their their
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: evaluation of what the average man is given the lower
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: averages with which they are now surrounded, and it's it's
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: it's my hope that they can finally go well, yeah,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: actually we had it good for a long time with
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: these with these Western men who will who will just
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: love us, even if we have flaws, They will just
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: love us. And maybe that's a lot better than these
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: men who will fucking knock us out for our for
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: our flaws. But I don't hold much hope.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: What's really dumb is it's like, what you're noticing is
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: the difference between traditionalism in Western nations and traditionalism in
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: some some Eastern nations, Middle Eastern and other some other
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: Eastern nations, where it is a much older fashioned traditionalism,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: less changed traditionalism, where it is impolite male or female
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: to put a bunch of skin on display, And so
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: from their perspective, it's rude as hell for you to
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: walk down the street with your entire back showing, your
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: arms showing, your belly showing, and your cleavage showing. But
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: from their perspective it is not unreasonable for them to
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: respond by slugging you. But at the same time, a woman,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: if a woman walks down the street and some guy
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: approaches her and says something reprehensible, and sexually explicit, which
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: is what he sees if from that other culture, when
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: he sees someone walking down the street in a sport top,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: it's reprehensible and vulgar to him. If you hit him
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: for making a lud suggestion, lots of people will back
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: you up, right. So it's a matter of perspective, and
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: a culture where it is acceptable for a woman to
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: walk down a street in a sport top and expect
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: that nobody will make a lude comment toward her is
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: not compatible. It's not compatible with a culture where walking
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: down the street in a sport top is the equivalent
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: of a leude comment, making a lude comment at everyone
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: around you. It's only compatible with other cultures where you're
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: not supposed to notice that she's almost naked. And so
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: this idea that it's about masculinity and not about culture,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: it's kind of silly and it's very self defeating because
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: you're not going to solve the problem by ignoring the
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: culture clash. You're only going to create. It's very much
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: like you're not going to solve the problem of pyromania
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: by ignoring the fact that it is a disorder of impulses,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: intrusive thoughts, and inability to control one's reaction to one's impulse.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: They call it impulse control, but it's actually behavioral control.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: You don't control the behavior that you exhibit in response
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: to your impulses. I can't count how many times a
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: day I have the impulse to say, oh my god,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: what is wrong with you to somebody, and I don't
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: do it because that's just mean and rude. Right, that's
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: impulse control. If I had no impulse control, I'd be
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: wh and around with a giant can of almonds, just
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: eating out of it all day long, non stop impulse control. Right,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: But it's really behavioral control because you're not controlling the impulse.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: The impulse is still there, you're controlling the behavior that
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: you exhibit in response to the impulse. No, I don't
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: have to check the lock on my door five times
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: after I've locked it to make sure it really is locked.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: I know I did it. And behavioral control, so again,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: you don't have compatibility with that those two cultures. You
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: should not flood the homeland of the culture where you're
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: expected to have more behavioral control in regard to your
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: impulses should you have less.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: Nor should you flood your culture with women who have
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: no impulse control. Now that's what we're facing right now.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: We've developed thisulture where women can do whatever they like,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: they can indulge any impulse they like, and now we've
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: flooded the country with foreign men who are completely incompatible
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: with that impulse control and they have their own impulse controls.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: And the general normally populous and the normy media I
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: kind of at odds as to what they do about this.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: When women have no self Native women have no self control,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: and foreign men have no self control, what do we
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: do other than punish Native men? And all they can
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: do is punish Native men over and over again, because
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: they already have this ideology where everything is the fault
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: of native men. And I, you know, I'm losing patience
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: with any of this, like especially when it comes to
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: even our own native right wing, in our own nativist
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: right wing, even when it comes to you know this,
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: this Restore Party, he never mind reform, fuck reform. But
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: even even the Restore Party can't sort of get their
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: heads around this idea that we've brought this upon ourselves
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: by letting women do whatever they want and like it.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: I like Rupert Lo, Rupert Low, even understands to some
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: degree the degree to which women have been fucked over
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: in family courts. He gets he gets that to some degree.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: He sort of he understands where that's going. But he
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: keeps focusing on the problems of the impulses of native men.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: And sure, that makes sense because that's the problem that's
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: been layered on top of the previous problem. The previous
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: problem being letting women do whatever they want. But the
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: fact that we that our country has been flooded by
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: foreign men who do whatever they want happened because we
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: let native women do whatever they want. Because native women
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: sort of they have this relational aggression where they where
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: they just want to punish their own kind. I call
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: it akophobia. You know where I'm coming from by now,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: and the exactly the exact is oichophobia by flooding the
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: country with foreign men to teach their own family a lesson,
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: to teach their own countrymen a lesson. And yeah, I'm
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: hoping after the Restore Britain has come into power, we
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: can do away with labor, we can do away with conservatives,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: we can do away with reform, and then we'll be
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: a two party system between Restore Britain and whatever party
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: comes along with ree on the front of its name
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: actually get around to defeminizing the country. And I'm sure
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: even Rupert Low will be like, oh no, that's that's
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: part too misogynist, and the new re Party will be Yeah,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: everything you said about foreign men, we're saying about native women.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: You know, everything you fixed about all that previous ship,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: we're going to fix about the next thing. I'm not
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: sure what we what we're what we're going to call it.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: There's a whole bunch of words that start with red, remasculinize.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 3: We're going to do the Remasculinized Party. And I hope
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: Restore Britain wins the next election. It's a thin hope,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: it really is. But if and when they do, like
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: I say, I hope we can spend the rest of
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: eternity arguing between us with people who who put the
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: British people first and people who put the British people
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: first without putting the British women first.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: What has to happen is balance. We have to that
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: there are aspects of women that can that have the
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: potential to be great. And if we bring forth men's
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: best selves and we bring forth women's best selves, and
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: those best selves work together instead of working against each
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: other to raise families that are they create an environment,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: a home environment specifically for the purpose of bringing forth
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: the best selves of their children. Then you get a
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: civilization in which people can be happy and comfortable, mostly safe.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: There's always danger in the world, but not like this. Right,
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: you get a civilization where you don't need huge, all
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: encompassing social systems to handle able bodied people can't support themselves,
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: and it becomes a lot easier to fund the systems
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: for helping people who have disabilities that are bad enough
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: that they cannot support themselves because they are disabled, that
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: they are unable to work, or they're unable to work consistently. Right,
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: and that would be the best thing. But unfortunately, if
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: the feminine is not allowed to dominate, instead of keeping
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: in balance with the masculine, feminists get angry and they
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: throw temper tantrums in the streets, and they get young
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: people to set whole neighborhoods on fire. It's terrible. I
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: will have two things in the chat to address before
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: moving on. Zer Inx gave us five dollars in a
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: super child and said, funny that you need to prove
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: you're disabled to get government aid, but you just have
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: to undermine your ability to scrape buy for the same thing.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: Basically in the welfare system, almost like having a good
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: reason as an inconvenience. But it's a happy thing for
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: the powers that can that be if they can regard
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: you as pathetic and people wonder why there's so much corruption,
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: and that is true.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: When I was the last year before I conceived my
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: son with my husband, I was in two car accidents.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: I was rearinded twice as a passenger in another person's car,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: two different people. The first time it was by a
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: tow truck for semis, so it was as heavy as
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: a semi maybe more. And the second time it was
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: I was in a little Ford Festiva, which anybody that's
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: ever seen a Ford Festiva you could park one of
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: those on your dinner table and still have room for
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: a full meal. And a buick came around the corner
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: at top speed and just rammed into us so hard
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: that we went airborne. Flew an entire car length granted
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: it was the car length of a Festiva, but still
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: an entire car length, and rammed the vehicle in front
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: of them in front of us hard enough to move
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: them and the person in the vehicle in front of
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: us got whiplash. And so in the space of eight months,
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: I had two times, two instances where I was just
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: kind of thrown around the inside of a vehicle like
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: a rag doll. And I weighed about one hundred and
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: twenty pounds five foot nine, about one hundred and twenty pounds, nothing,
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: no muscle structure, no, nothing to protect me. And so
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: my parents thought my injuries were going to be permanent
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: and disabling, because my mom was injured like that in
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: her thirties and her accident that we were in, the
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: driver was doing more like fifty to fifty five miles
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: an hour, went through a field and directly impacted the
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: door outside of her seat, and the accident was bad
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: enough they had to use the jaws of life to
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: get her out of the car and she almost died
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: and she had pain her entire life from that. And
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: we did not know that on my mom's mom's side
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: of the family, we had the vascular form of Ailer's
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: danloaps writing in the family, so we did not know
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: that it was abnormal for us to recover much more
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: slowly if at all from soft tissue injuries. Mom just
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: knew that what had happened to me was going to
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: cause a lifetime of pain, and it has, but it's
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: not the only thing that caused it. And when I
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: realized that, like, I stopped the process of dealing, doing
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: lawsuits and everything else. And just because it's not necessarily
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: I can't measure what the other person did to me,
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: and it's not fair to just sue them for something
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: that isn't entirely caused by their actions. Right, But in
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: the meantime, they had me apply for disability, and the
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: plan was, you know, I would I would use that
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: until I figured out a way to not be disabled,
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: because we knew I would eventually, but at that moment,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: it looked like it might be years and years before
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: I could do any kind of work again. And the
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: first thing they do is deny you, no matter what
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: reason you put down. Ninety five percent of people who
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: fill out an application and turn it in it denied.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: And I think it. I don't think they even look
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: at the application. And then you have to file an appeal.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: And when you file the appeal, then they send you
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: to physicians and stuff like that. And because I was
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: being treated for depression at the time. Being temporarily disabled
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: is very fucking depressing, by the way, especially if you're
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: accustomed to working two or three jobs at a time
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you can't do jack shit
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: and you have to rely on other people to support you.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the Ford Festival was a lot of fun
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: to drive night motorcyclist. It was. It was just awesome.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: But it wasn't much fun to get hit in, I
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: will tell you that. But it was manual transmission, so
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: it was great. It was a little It was like
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: having your own little race car on the street. I'm
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: lucky I didn't get into an accident when I was driving.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: But so I applied. I appealed, and they sent me
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: to the psychiatrist and he did an IQ test and
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: he's like, oh, this is great. Your result is great.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: Dey'll send you to job training and you won't have
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: to be on disability for too long. So I was
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: really encouraged. And I get the results back of my
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: appeal and it says you can't possibly be disabled you
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: have a very high IQ, which was true. I did
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: have a very high IQ, and everybody around me was
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: all outrage right, Oh my god, gude, what are you
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: gonna do? Sit there and think really hard, and money
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: will just appear on the table so you can use
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: it to pay your bills. But I sat there and
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: I thought about it for a while. I thought about
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: it for days, because they were talking about getting a
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: lawyer and all kinds of advice. But eventually I decided that,
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: you know, they they were right. I do have a
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: very high IQ. I had to be able to figure
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: out something I could you, something that I could pay
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: my own way, that my income wouldn't be limited to
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: what you get for disability. And so I started working
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: on it, and I went back into retail, but specifically
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: in a retail store that sold cameras. Because I do photography.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: I was I used to have professional equipment. I haven't
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: done that for a while, but I had a twenty
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: five year career preceding and following that space and time
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: as a professional photographer. And so if anybody was going
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: to be good at helping people connect with what camera
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: was going to be right for their purposes, it was
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: going to be somebody who used cameras for a living.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: And you know, I was a bit of a nerd
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: about it. Like we would get a new camera in
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: and I would dig through the box and get out
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: the manual and read the whole thing and then go
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: back can start playing with the camera and checking out
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: all the features and everything. And I became the person
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: that helped people understand the techanese in the manual right.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: I also figured out a way to coordinate with the
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: three different photo labs that we worked with to get
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: the best lab for the best service for the customer's needs.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: And as a result, I ended up making pretty good
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: commission and it served me right. It served me well
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: to listen to that you can't be disabled. You have
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: a very high IQ. You should be able to figure
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: this out. Our country is so accustomed to wallowing and
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: self pity and giving up too easily and deciding I
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: can't I can't do that, I can't handle that, this
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: is too hard, especially when the individual in that situation
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: is a woman. All this poor women shouldn't have to
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: suffer like that, When they would let a man sleep
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: on the street for the rest of his life. Under
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: that circumstance, that we have become weak, And I think
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: if I was on disability for the rest of my life,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: I would be miserable. I know it's there for people
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: who really need it, and I'm glad it's there for
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: people who really need it, but it's cruel to encourage
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: people who don't need it to use it. Anyway. If
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: I'd have been in a different situation where like I
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: couldn't walk, you know, I would have had to find
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: a desk job. I probably could have done the job
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: I did without being able to walk. I'd just had
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: to get there in a wheelchair. But in any case,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: you know, I went from being a stayed tested nurses
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: aid in that moment as my my second job, to
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: being a sales representative as my primary job for a while,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: and then eventually it became my second job, you know,
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: and to this day, like for a while when I
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: was working there, I just did that, and then I
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: went back slowly into wedding photography, got to the point
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: where I could be on my feet for twelve hours again,
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: and you know, eventually built my strength back up right
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: and I when I we had to move to Dayton,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I was teaching photography at the
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: at the Salina branch, the business branch of Wright State University,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: the Lake Campus, and I continue to do that until
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: I replaced that income. I did that for three years.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: This is something that used to be normal. You were
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: looking for a job when you got that one. All Right,
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: you can't do this anymore. The question isn't how are
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: you going to survive? It's the starting question is, Okay,
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: well what can I do? Because that's where I start
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: to figure out how I'm gonna survive? What can I do?
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: And you go from there. And unfortunately, our system has
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: gotten to the point where it's all or nothing, So
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: you don't get help getting back on your feet after
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: you've been knocked down farther than you were prepared to handle,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: and you don't get encouraged to ask, okay, but what
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: can I do? I can't do that, Okay, I'm done
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: with that. That's over and and you know sometimes that's
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: not always true either I can't do that the way
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: I did it before, but maybe I can do it
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: a different way. You know, doesn't get consideration anymore. You
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: never get to what can I do? Because you stop
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: at no. We need to go back to being a
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: can do country. And so my family decided, since I
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: had decided I was going to figure out what can
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: I do? They figured out how they could support my
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: effort at getting back on my feet instead of being
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: held up by the rest of society for the rest
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: of my life. And so I stayed with my parents
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: for a few years and got my ship back together,
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: and got married to my husband, and got legally married
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: to my husband, and because it does kind of sound funny,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: got married to my husband. We got legally married three
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: years after we made our first vows. And then we
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: moved when we had to in order to prevent our
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: family from being broken up after his ex wife decided
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: to take his two daughters and move to the southern
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: part of Ohio from the northern part of Ohio to
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: get outside of the area that she had to allow
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: him to have his visitation. And she was really surprised
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: when we moved. It's not used to people being able
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: to just pull up stakes and start over again someplace else.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: But that used to be the norm. That used to
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: be people used to do that all the time, and
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: women are too scared to do that now. They will
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: live in the farmer's rabbit warren of Watership Down, knowing
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: that they or their neighbors might be sacrificed at any
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: time because they're afraid to go where they don't have
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: a supply of food just handed to them. When we
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: fix women, when we fix that attitude. And it's funny,
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: you know that that story I just told I was
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven, twenty eight years ago, and today my
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: job is taking care of people with disabilities, and I
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: work with people who fight battles every day that are
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: harder than anything I've ever fought for any length of
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: time in my entire life. And you feel like I
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: made the right choice. So but you know, like I said,
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: you know you have to you have to think not
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: what this lady writing this article is doing. He's not
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: even looking at this guy's life, not even considering how
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: did he get here, what is his origin? What is
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: the reason that he has ended up in this situation?
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: What harms or damages has he suffered that has put
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: him into a position of eligibility. So the other one
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: I wanted to consider. I saw the phrase suicidal empathy.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 3: I fucking hate that phrase.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: I have a really solid reason for hating that, all right.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: I was raised by two school teachers whose primary subject
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: throughout their school careers that they taught. My mom was
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: straight up an English teacher. My dad was an elementary
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: school teacher, but for the last many many years of
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: his teaching career he was teaching reading in English. In
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: my school system. There is no such thing as suicidal empathy.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: There is suicidal compassion. People misuse the word empathy all
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: the time and it drives me nuts. Empathy is the
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: literal definition, is feeling the other person's feelings, not necessarily
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: in the psychic way. If your dog died and then
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: your best friend's dog died, you can feel his pain
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: because you went through that. You know what that's like.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: If you have a dog and your best friend's dog
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: died and you go through a period of panicky grief
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: over your dog, that's empathy. You're feeling the other person's
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: grief and it makes you worried about your dog. Right.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: Sympathy is knowing your friend is going through grief and
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: understanding that he's experiencing that set of emotions. Compassion is
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: caring about your friend's grief and compassion can be impractical.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 3: And psychopath Psychopaths have empathy, but they don't have compassion.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and when you have empathy and you don't have compassion,
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: and you don't have a set of ethics that bars
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: you from exploiting your empathy to take advantage of people,
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: you become very dangerous.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: Compassion can also be dangerous if your friend your best friend.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: Let's say your best friend doesn't have a dog. He
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: has a drug addiction and it hurts you to see
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: him go through this. You're sympathetic to his plight and
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: he is. You can see him destroying himself, and you're
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: sad that he can't pay his bills and you want
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: to help. And he's about to be thrown out in
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: the street because his rent isn't getting paid because he's
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: spending it on some kind of addictive substance. Compassion can
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: mean wanting to pay that bill so he doesn't get
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: thrown out on the street. Practical compassion, on the other hand,
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: can mean tough love, not where you let him get
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: thrown out on the street, but where you make a
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: deal with him that you'll be there for him through
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: the whole process of rehab and you're going to take
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: him and at least ask him to listen to what
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: they have to say at the front office of the
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: rehab center and consider you know, going in for rehab.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: That's practical compassion. Practical compassion is not paying your unemployed
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: friend's rent, but helping him find a job and then
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: helping him make it through till he gets his first
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: paycheck and expecting him to pay you back at a
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: reasonable level, reasonable rate, so that he doesn't feel beholden
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: to you. That's practical compassion. And the biggest problem in
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: our society isn't this so called suicidal empathy. It is
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: practical compassion. Practical compassion is when, instead of receiving thousands
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: of so called refugees from a nation that is having political,
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: social political issues, we work with that nation to fix
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: those issues, and if we have to accept refugees, it's
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: on a temporary basis while we work to fix those issues.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: To help fix those issues so that they can go
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: back to their homeland where their culture is the prevailing culture,
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: and they can and be with their families and their
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: friends and their neighborhoods in the places where they grew
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: up that are familiar to them and not uprooted and
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: living somewhere else. That's practical compassion. Impractical compassion is creating
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: the environment that the left created in the United States
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: and in the UK. People who come here should come
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: here because this is the place they want to be,
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: that they're interested in the culture here and that they
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: want to contribute to it and be a part of it,
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: not because they're trying to escape something. You know, it's awful.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: I would not want to have to try to escape Ohio.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: My whole family is here, except for a very small
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: number who have moved to other states, and I can
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: still visit them because they're still in the US. But
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: if I had to flee to another country, it would
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: break my heart. It was hard enough to move from
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: a rural area to an urban area that terrified the
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: shit out of me. I just to go someplace, especially
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: to go someplace where I don't speak the language, that
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: would just be horrible. I wouldn't want to do that.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: I would much rather if Ohio became such a black,
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: bad place, work to change that, make it better. And
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: I think that most people in the world would rather
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: have what they grew up with, what is familiar to them,
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: what they value, and what they know, what their traditions are,
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: the people they love be around them, and not go
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: someplace where everyone is a stranger and try to make
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: the surroundings fit them. But in any case, that's the
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: difference between empathy, empathy and compassion and practical compassion.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 3: This all became all but crystal clear after Charliekirk's assassination.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 3: We saw all manner of these people saying, I'm glad
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 3: he's dead. I'm glad he died in pain. I'm glad
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 3: his children have no dad, I'm glad his wife has
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 3: no husband. And I'm glad that you're all sad. I'm
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 3: glad that you're all angry, because I want you all dead.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 3: I want anyone who loves their own family dead. I
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 3: want anyone who loves their own country dead. I want
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 3: anyone who loves their own people dead. And I'm glad
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 3: about it. And then some people ostensibly opposed to this
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 3: will sit there and go, oh, you poor dear, you
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 3: have suicidal empathy. Like what you're witnessing there is the
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 3: opposite of empathy and the opposite of suicidal. They're straight
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 3: up telling you they have no empathy. They're even fucking
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 3: scrolling it across gravestones and shit, No, we have no
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 3: empathy for you, and we want you dead. See that's
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 3: not suicidal, that's homicidal, well, is genocidal when you take
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 3: it to its to its logical end. When you're looking
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 3: at there is genocidal hatred. But the people ostensibly opposing
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 3: this are looking at it and going, oh, you poor dear,
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 3: you have suicidal empathy. Now, what does that sound like
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 3: to you, ladies and gentlemen in the audience. I invite
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 3: you to examine the irony that the person in that situation,
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 3: who can even be in potentia described as having suicidal empathy,
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 3: is the person saying, oh, you poor, you have suicidal
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 3: empathy because they're they're viewing hateful, genocidal as dickheads. There's
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 3: nothing more than people with suicide empathy, you see. And
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 3: this has this infinite regress and you know, for me
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 3: to describe them as as as suicidal empaths, it can
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 3: land me with the same charge of suicidal empathy. But
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 3: if if there is such a thing as suicidal empathy,
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 3: it's that it's looking at hateful genocidalist dickheads as nothing
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 3: but suicidal empaths.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: No, well, it's not them that's being called impaths. It's
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: the people who are uh acting as though you can't
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: criticize them and you can't. So, in other words, the
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: people who voted for the Democrats to let the borders
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: remain open and not vet immigrants coming in to make
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: sure that they're not cartel members and stuff. The people
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: who voted for that system are the ones being accused
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 1: of suicidal empathy, not the people that are coming across
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: the border.
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 3: But if you examine their thoughts for a moment, you're
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 3: not just that they don't give a shit about the Native.
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 1: People, right, And that isn't empathy.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 3: That's not empathy. They hate their own people.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well they're not. They're not even considering the experiences
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: of the Native people, much less knowing them and understanding them.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 1: So it's not empathy. It's not empathy of any kind.
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: And it's not really sympathy either. The people that they're
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: bringing in honestly aren't people they care about, because if
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 1: they really cared, they would be very upset knowing that
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: a portion of the people who are coming across the
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: border are not coming because they want to be here,
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 1: but because they got kidnapped and are being forced to
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: come here, or are being used as drug mules. You know,
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: they're they're either being exploited on the way across, or
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: they're coming here to be sold as slaves when they're
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 1: coming through illegally and they're not coming through checkpoints. That
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: is a major issue. And yet when you bring it up,
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: the people who support open borders don't want to talk
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: about that. They don't want to talk about the slave
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 1: trade that exists today right now while we are talking
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: in the country that prides itself and the satellite that
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: became an independent country. Here in the US and in
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 1: the UK, there are slave trades of immigrants who are
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 1: here illegally. There is a sex trade of immigrants who
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: are here illegally, who have been forced to come here
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 1: against their will, and many of them are underage boys
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: and girls. And practical compassion says, you want to prevent that.
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 1: You don't want it to be easy for human traffickers
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: to use your border or your lack of a border
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 1: to impose sex slavery on children. You want talent here,
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 1: You want, you know, people to enjoy contributing to the country.
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: You want neighbors that are interesting and fun and want
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: to be part of your culture, and so on. But
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: you don't want I don't think anybody in their right
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: mind wants children to be trafficked. And yet that discussion,
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 1: When that discussion happens, the first thing that these people
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: with this so called suicidal empathy, who really what they
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 1: really have is impractical compassion. They want to feel like
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 1: they're doing something good for other people. They don't want
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 1: to hear it, and they will call you racist. Nobody
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 1: said all the traffickers are of a particular background when
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 1: you get into the United States. Nobody said all the
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 1: people who are purchasing, all the buyers for these human
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: traffickers are of any particular background or race. In fact,
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: many of the many of the upper class, middle aged
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: what do they call them, wasp or whatever.
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: You know, there are people in in that particular bracket,
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 1: right the the the not the Bill Gates bracket, but
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 1: the people who uh, people who maybe live in Silicon
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 1: Valley and work for Bill Gates. That that income bracket,
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 1: actors and actresses, income bracket A listers, some of them have,
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: some of them have some very illicit backgrounds. And it's
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 1: it's all coming out now with the Epstein stuff. But
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 1: like I said on Tuesday, we talk about Epstein Island
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: like it's in an abnormality. I really wish it was,
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 1: But what's happened there is a microcosm of what's going
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: on around in the world with the open borders issue.
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: This is happening everywhere. It is happening. I guarantee you
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 1: it is happening in the town where you live. There
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: is somebody in your neighborhood that is trying to manage
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 1: being having been brought here illegally and against their will.
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 1: There's at least one person in your neighborhood where you live,
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 1: wherever you live, if you're in the United States, if
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 1: you're in the continental United States, in your neighborhood somewhere,
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 1: one of your neighbors has done this, has exploited somebody.
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: Unless you live in the poorest of neighborhoods like that,
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: that is the case. That is the situation. And if
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: you if you're still supported after that. It's not sympathy.
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: It's sure a shit not empathy. You clearly don't have
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 1: a concept of what's being experienced by these people. And
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: it's not compassion. It's just you being selfish treating the
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 1: issue and the people in it like your purse puppy.
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: Look what I've got on display. I has this cute
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 1: little puppy. I have this cute little little ideology. I
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 1: have this cute little belief system. I'm a nice person.
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 1: No you're not. You support human trafficking. Shut the fuck up.
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah. To summarize as best I can, suicidal empathy is
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 3: a homological phrase or an autological phrase. I hope, I
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 3: hope some of you at least already know what that means.
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 3: Homological slash autological. It means a word or phrase that
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 3: describes itself as a word or phrase, such as English
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 3: is an English word and small is a small word.
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 3: That kind of thing. Suicidal empathy is exactly that it
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 3: can only be used by someone who is already guilty
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 3: of of of the charge which it prescribes to its
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 3: to its subject. It cannot possibly make any sense because suicide.
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 3: It's because because it's being applied to someone who's who's
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 3: not enacting it on their self, they're enacting it on
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 3: other people who are like them. I mean, if there
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 3: could be such a thing as suicidal empathy, as in
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 3: like if you're if you're married to the love of
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 3: your life and they commit suicide, and so then you
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 3: commit suicide because you can't live life without them. I
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 3: mean that that is a situation in which it could
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 3: be a heterological phrase. But when you're dealing with people
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 3: who are only interested in in destroying their own people,
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, the fact that you don't understand what lycophobia
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 3: is sort of unravels how that's nothing but a homological phrase.
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 3: Like what the vast majority of times when the phrase
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 3: suicide empathy is used, and yes I am talking about God, sad,
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 3: the vast majority of times is used, it's only describing
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 3: what you're doing. These people aren't suicidally empathetic. They want
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 3: you dead, and they're using other people to get you dead.
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 3: They don't care if they die. And that's not suicidalism,
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 3: that's nihilism. If anything, it's they want you dead. And
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 3: if all you're doing is euphemizing what they're saying as
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 3: merely empathy, ethic, or suicidal, then you are the suicidal EmPATH.
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 3: And yeah, I'm trying to break this recursive spell by
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 3: pointing out that this is a completely useful, the useless
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 3: phrase in every sense that it's being used nowadays. No,
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 3: what they what they are is hateful. If you keep
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 3: describing hateful people as loveful, then yeah, you're you're you're
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 3: you're another layer in the spell of hateful genocide. You're
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 3: you're just you're just appreciating and exacting the hateful genocide.
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I I am averse to ever telling anyone
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 3: to stop using a word or a phrase because I'm
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 3: I'm for free speech. I would like you to use
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 3: any word or phrase you feel is apposite, But I
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 3: would challenge you to ask yourself what the fuck you're
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 3: even saying. If someone wants you dead, they're not being empathic.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 3: If someone wants you dead, they're not being suicidal. They
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 3: want you dead. See you see the fucking difference.
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 1: The whole point of free speech is the ability to
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 1: freely communicate thoughts, beliefs ideas, you know, a hash them
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 1: out and all that. You can't very well do that
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: if you're not communicating, and you cannot communicate, if you
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 1: use words differently than what they mean, and people don't
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 1: understand what you're saying, it's the whole point behind you
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 1: speak Richard, you were speaking up. Yeah, this article finished,
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 1: We've still got we've still got more. We'll probably we'll
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 1: read the next paragraph just because uh it gets into
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: another bullshit argument. And then and then we'll we'll quit
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 1: for the night. But this is this is great, right.
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 1: She called him an insult after he defined his celibacy
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 1: as voluntary, and then she acknowledges Alex joined a separatist
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: movement in the Manisphere once Men Going their Own Way
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 1: or make Tao. It emerged in the two thousands and
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 1: urged men to distance themselves. And by the way, miketaw
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: is not a movement, it is in a phenomenon.
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 2: It's a philosophy.
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it didn't emerge in the two thousands. It's
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 1: been it's at least as old as recorded human history.
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 1: It's just that the term used to be different. We
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 1: used to call people hermits. You know, like a man
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 1: who went his own way, lived in the woods or
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 1: out in the wilderness, somewhere away from everybody else and
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 1: didn't I didn't have too much to do with other
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: people unless he really wanted to or had to. It
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 1: was a hermit. And uh, you know in stories all
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: the time, they're they're used to like provide information. They're
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: like the the the Magic Blackman trope. Except before before
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 1: the Magic Blackman trope, there was the Magic Loaner trope.
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 4: For you said you could you could say the magical,
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 4: but you can't say that.
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 1: Uh, I suppose you can. It's just it's it's not
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: a word that occurs to me to use very much.
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 3: Can we still say negro even even if we have tourets?
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 4: Well that's that's that's least defensive.
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 1: It's not a that way. People might take it as one,
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 1: but it's not a racial slur. That's that's hilarious. It
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 1: just didn't occur to me, right because it's usually it's
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 1: usually a man. But at least in the stories that
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: i've I'm like more into the stories where somebody is
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 1: using his sword and hunting treasure. So maybe there's it's
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 1: it's not really gendered, and I'm just not reading the
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: right stories.
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 3: From what I've gathered from the Black Andese language, Niggas
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 3: means men, bitches means women. Like when when when black
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 3: people talk talk about niggas that they're talking about men.
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 1: It depends, right, Yeah, that one that one I do
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 1: that I recall of that from past article.
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 2: The article mention slower baits.
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 1: Oh god, I forgot she existed. Wow, Okay, so we'll
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 1: go on. It im merged in two thousands out of nowhere,
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 1: because there was never a tradition of men going off
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: to be by themselves before the early two thousands. Guys,
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 1: that's like a brand new behavior that never happened in
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 1: the past. Don't read on walden Pond or anything, you know,
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 1: because even temporarily doing that, it's probably weird. Uh mik
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 1: Tau adherents believe a lot of men have found success
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 1: by shunning women. That's the way to put it. I
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 1: wonder what she would say about training rules, you know,
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 1: where you don't drink alcohol, you you know, only eat
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 1: healthy food, you exercise every day, and you don't you
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 1: abstain from sex, and that probably would I wonder what
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 1: she would say.
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 4: They will call you, They will call you a neo Nazi.
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 1: How about the Betan monks that go out up into
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 1: the mountains and don't see a woman their entire lives.
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 3: The right brothers were make tales. They didn't have wives.
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 3: They just they just set about their their.
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 4: And that's why you want, That's why you want.
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 2: By a pic, there's a.
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 3: There's a bunch of men thracty. I think Nicola Tesla
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 3: was technically a maketown. I mean whatever it means to
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 3: be technically a maketaw is if you if you don't
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 3: take a wife, and you don't particularly pursue a wife.
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 3: There's all manner of men throughout history who have changed
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 3: everyone's life for the better, largely because they didn't bother
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 3: with the bitches.
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, it's almost as if the history of humanity,
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 1: in which people who are hyper focused on a particular project,
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 1: and whether it be themselves or something like creating the
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 1: first device that people might use to fly around the world,
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 1: it might need to remain hyper focused on that in
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 1: order to achieve the outcome that they are attempting to achieve,
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 1: and distractions would slow them down. And sometimes relationships can
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 1: be a distraction. And there are so many men in
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 1: the world who have been highly successful and then gotten
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 1: divorced and you hear from the wife, well, he wasn't
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 1: very focused on the relationship, no, because he was focused
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 1: on building this highly successful company, or creating this great invention,
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 1: or creating whole new areas of the study of mathematics.
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 1: Like maybe he had something going on there while he
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 1: was doing that. Did you focus on providing care and
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 1: supporting his goals or did you focus on whether or
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 1: not he was focused on you. And so for men
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 1: to not have to that a woman to make sure
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 1: she's not going to be the latter, and for men
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 1: to not have to deal with that that fallout. Some
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 1: of them choose not to focus on women at all.
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 1: They don't get distracted. They just pursue this one thing,
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 1: and in religion, that that goes becomes institutionalized, right, it's
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 1: part of the institution in some religious practices that and
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 1: in some religions it's both men and women that are
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 1: hyper focused on being the best they can at their
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 1: spiritual relationship with God and maintaining that in order to
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 1: be the best guides they can for other people's spiritual
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: relationships with God. And the minute they get distracted with
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 1: impulses and interest in other humans that that's not a
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 1: spiritual interest, they fall and then they usually fall on
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 1: the people that they went into that practice to support.
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 1: So it's it's very important that if people make that
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 1: choice to go their own way from the norm of
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 1: having a partner and focusing on your relationship, that that
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 1: our society should support that. When the individual is attempting
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 1: to strive for some sort of success and to to
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 1: optimize something that they are doing that would be hindered
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 1: by that type of distraction, and it's not something you
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 1: can Like. A night motorcyclist mentioned that being placed in
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 1: a monastery used to be a punishment in itself, and yeah,
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 1: those would be people that would fall. They wouldn't be
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 1: able to maintain that because it's not something they're dedicated to.
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 1: It's not a goal. It's something that people should be
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 1: able to choose, and their choice should be supported. But
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 1: when you try to impose it on them, you create
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 1: a situation where that individual is dedicated or not dedicated,
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 1: but doomed to fall and to fall on other people.
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 1: But let's see, she goes on. She goes on to
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 1: say women could only ruin their lives with false allegations. Well, yeah,
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 1: it's not that Mike tal think that women can only
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 1: ruin their lives with false allegations. It's that they recognize
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 1: that if a woman decides she's going to ruin a
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 1: man's life with false allegations, he has zero protection under
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 1: the law.
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 3: They don't ruin their lives with false allegations. They make
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 3: millions from it.
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 1: Yep, they ruin the men's men's lives, but they make
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 1: millions from the women's lives or from the fallout. But yeah,
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 1: and abuse and miss indry. Also, yeah, women can ruin
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 1: your life by abusing you because you have difficulty escaping that,
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 1: and miss inry, that just leads to the abuse and
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 1: the false salegies. So it's not unreasonable for a man
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 1: if he doesn't feel comfortable trying to vet women for character,
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 1: if he doesn't feel capable, if he's not sure that
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 1: a woman can maintain the character she has when he
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 1: vets her for character, which is another issue. He does
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 1: know that if she chooses to display bad character, lie
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 1: about him, cheat on him, abandon him, and try to
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 1: take half his shit, that the system we have today
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 1: will facilitate that, it will not protect him from that abuse.
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 1: And that is abuse.
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 3: And none of this is to deny that there are
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 3: some magatailes out there and who have been out there
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 3: for many years now who will go ahead and tell you, yeah,
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 3: you should sleep around. You should as long as as
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 3: you're using protection, you can fuck around with as many
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 3: women as you like and it'll be fine. And as
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 3: I've always said, I you're skating on thin nice there, bro,
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 3: You're staring into the barrel of the bazooka. Yeah, you
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 3: will understand that reference. And you know, I still like
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 3: to think of myself as Magdao, even though I've been
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 3: in a devoted relationship for over seven years now. Some
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 3: people still think of me as like some kind of
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 3: guru of Magdow, perhaps because they don't know that I've
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 3: been in a devoted relationship for several years.
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 2: But.
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 3: It is theoretically possible in any sense.
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 7: It's it's still okay for me to to tell most
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 7: men that they should go their own way, because you're
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 7: unlikely to find a honey badger for yourself.
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 3: There aren't many honey badges. That is to say, there
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 3: aren't many women who actually understand the fucking situation. And
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 3: if you're an average man that then the best you
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 3: can do is find an average woman. And the average
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 3: woman is not going to understand. The average woman has
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 3: had their brains scrambled by the mass media and the
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 3: education system, and you have an awful lot of vetting
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 3: to do if you're going to if you're going to
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 3: be able to enter a relationship, a long term relationship
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 3: with a woman that's not going to end in disaster,
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 3: and so you it just means you have to be
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 3: really vigilant, incredibly vigilant you have, and that means you
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 3: have to set boundaries as soon as possible and as
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 3: vigilantly as possible. And I did that because you know,
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 3: I've spent hundreds of hours online sort of setting the
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 3: boundaries that I think men should have. And Lauren was
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 3: with me all the way because she's been with on
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 3: a Badger Radio since twenty fourteen, just like I have.
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 3: And and we were able to get together because we've
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 3: always both mutually understood this and we mutually understood this
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 3: together for like four or five years before we got together.
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 3: And that's you know, that's the sort of thing it takes.
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 3: It means you getting together with a men's rights group
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 3: like Honey Badger Radio for four or five years, and
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 3: that's not an avenue that's available to most men, Like
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 3: most men are just living their lives, just doing jobs
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 3: and just trying to be a normal person. And you know,
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 3: it's it's very difficult for you to actually know a
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 3: woman and understand where she's coming from for long enough
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 3: for her for her to be interested in you before
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 3: she loses interest in you. And that's fucking difficult, like
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 3: and I understand how difficult that is, and and yeah,
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 3: that's that's all I'm saying. You need to understand how
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 3: difficult that is, and society needs to be changed from
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 3: the bottom up.
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 1: There's a there's another aspect of men. I think a
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 1: lot of people don't consciously consider right. Very very rarely
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 1: in the world does anyone ever become a rock star
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 1: by trying to become a rock star.
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 1: There's there's obviously the people that become rock stars by
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 1: knowing the right people. And we all we all know
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 1: bands that we think maybe that's that's all they had
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 1: going for them, was that they knew the right people.
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 1: But the greatest rock stars of all time, the people
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 1: who are remembered generation after generation, whose whose original fans,
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 1: grandchildren love their music, their people who became rock stars
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 1: because they focused on their love of music and and
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 1: their creation of their type of music, their particular idiom
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 1: right and and put the work in and took all
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 1: the steps of improving their skill and blending their group
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 1: together and being dedicated to the group and so on,
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 1: all of the performing, all of the years, in years
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 1: of living in poverty while they went from gig to
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 1: gig and you know, had beer thrown up on the
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 1: stage and everything and eventually made it. And if they
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 1: had been focusing on just being rock stars, many many
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 1: young musicians that have stars in their eyes but not
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 1: dedication behind them. They fail because they expect to make
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 1: it right away. And I think a lot of young people,
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 1: men and women, think about becoming a husband or a
• 2:28:42
  Speaker 1: wife and a mother or a father and having the
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 1: picket fence in the white house and the neighbors you
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 1: know on their street and you know, two point five
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 1: kids and a dog and a cat and a treehouse
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 1: in the backyard. But they don't do the work. They're
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 1: not focused on how do we get there. They're not
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 1: focused on becoming partners, finding somebody that they love because
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 1: they have the same values, and they have the same
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 1: goals and interests, and they love things about each other.
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 1: They admire characteristics of the other person, and they want
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 1: to raise a family with that person because they trust
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 1: that person to be the other caregiver for their children.
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 1: And so you end up in a situation where, you know,
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 1: women focus on romance and being romanced, and men focus
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 1: on being romantic and being the best romancer of women.
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 1: They can be, and but they don't focus on creating
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 1: real partnership to scaffold their relationship. They don't focus on
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 1: real connection. They focus on making her happy. Making her
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 1: happy is a side effect of the end goal. The
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 1: end goal being solid connection and solid love, family love,
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 1: and you're happy when you have that that connection. And
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 1: so they spend the part of their lives where they
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 1: should be building the adult they're going to be and
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 1: looking at the people around them as you know, possible
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 1: future partners and not current partners. And the ways that
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 1: dating and going through the cycle of getting into a
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 1: sexual relationship breaking it off, not understanding all of the
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 1: feelings that come out of breaking off a sexual relationship
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 1: that shouldn't have happened, and then moving on to another
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 1: sexual relationship. Well, how is somebody supposed to find a
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 1: real life partner in that circumstance. So when men go
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 1: their own way and they choose to focus on building
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 1: their character and optimizing the person that they are, and
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 1: they reserve their trust and their intimacy for someone else
• 2:31:40
  Speaker 1: who has done the same, that they can vet for
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 1: character and that they can form a trust with and
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 1: regarding mutual goals in life, mutual values, mutual ethics, and morality.
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 1: If one does get married, by the time that happens,
• 2:32:04
  Speaker 1: he's far more likely to be someone be with someone
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 1: that is going to be supportive of him in a
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 1: relationship just like he is of her, and he's far
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 1: more likely to be in a lifelong marriage and not
• 2:32:22
  Speaker 1: get divorced five or six years down the road. But
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of women that are more stunted.
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 1: I always say shallow, but it's really like somebody withheld
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 1: an important nutrient from your personal growth. It's like having
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 1: rickets of the soul that you want to be the
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 1: focus of attention and you want to be treated like
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 1: a princess instead of a partner. You want to lean
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 1: on him, but you don't want him to lean on you.
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 1: A lot of women who are in that situation are offended.
• 2:33:04
  Speaker 1: Then a man might work on himself first and then
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 1: work on vetting a potential partner for character if he
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 1: even has consideration for the idea that there might be
• 2:33:15
  Speaker 1: a woman he can trust. And the more stunted we
• 2:33:22
  Speaker 1: allow women's intellectual and spiritual psychological growth to become in society,
• 2:33:29
  Speaker 1: the more men are going to turn away because they're
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 1: not allowed to do that, and so they can see
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 1: it for the handicap that it is, and they don't
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 1: want to be the support network for somebody who has
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 1: the handicap where they can just never grow up. Women
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 1: criticize men who like to be with women who are
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 1: younger but still adult, and they equate them to men
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 1: who want to be with children. And yet those same women,
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 1: if you expect them to grow up, they will call
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 1: you a misogynist. They want normal femininity to be childish,
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 1: not childlike, not possessive curiosity and innovativeness, but selfishness and
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 1: attention seeking narcissism. And yet they want men to treat
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 1: them like they're mature, and they want men to differentiate
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 1: between women who are of age and women who are underage.
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 1: How are they supposed to do that if you never
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 1: mature past the age of fourteen, so she says, And
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 1: they cite Schopenhauer and Jesus as examples of high achieving virgins.
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 1: There are tears to the big Tail movement. Level one
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 1: is avoiding only long term relationships, well Level four means
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 1: dropping out of society altogether. In her book Men who
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 1: Hate Women, Laura Bates traces Migtaw roots to Iron John
• 2:35:08
  Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety men's self help book that argued men
• 2:35:13
  Speaker 1: need to reconnect with each other and the deep masculine.
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 1: It's a bit like Lysis Strata and Aristophanes play in
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 1: which the women of Athens go on a sex strike
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 1: to fork force men to negotiate peace in the I
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 1: believe this is Peloponnesian war. It's been a while since
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 1: I've seen that word. I don't remember how to pronounce it.
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 3: You did. I think it's less strata, but it doesn't.
• 2:35:43
  Speaker 1: Matter, like I haven't read this description of this and
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 1: so long. I ask Alex if that inspired the idea
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 1: of a love strike. It wasn't that coherent, He admits
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 1: it was ego defense. Alex eventually left the group who
• 2:35:58
  Speaker 1: found it too right wing. So again, let's let's go
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 1: back to that nineteen ninety self help book she's she
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 1: refers to this describes this right that argued men needed
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 1: to reconnect with each other and the deep masculine, and
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 1: then compares it to to this history, but doesn't make
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 1: the connection that it has to do with the gender
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 1: war to force women to negotiate peace in the gender war.
• 2:36:36
  Speaker 1: The thing is women are getting to the point with
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 1: Magtao where negotiating peace might not be a possibility. There
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 1: are men who will never trust women again after the
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 1: things that have been done to them, and it's not
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 1: unreasonable for them to feel that way. It's and that
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 1: number is growing. I can't I can't have an experience
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 1: in life without running into at least one person who
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 1: has had a men's rights issue. Experience I had. I
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 1: had to get my car toad, my van toad actually
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. From northwest Ohio to southwest
• 2:37:24
  Speaker 1: Ohio was like an eighty mile toe and you know,
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 1: I called a toying company, paid the guy I had.
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 1: I blew a gasket while visiting my son, and you know,
• 2:37:40
  Speaker 1: didn't have a way to get home, right, So I
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 1: called this tow truck company. We get talking and everything,
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 1: and I don't even remember how it came up, but
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 1: you know, we were talking about different jobs and everything,
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 1: and I mentioned something to the fact that, well, I'm
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 1: at least really glad that you were available to do this,
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 1: because I think he was talking about the expense, and
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, are you kidding? I can't do what
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 1: you're doing, don't I don't have a complaint here. You
• 2:38:07
  Speaker 1: are getting paid what you are working for. You deserve
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 1: the money. There's no way I could do the job
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 1: that you do. I don't think very many women could.
• 2:38:16
  Speaker 1: I imagine it takes a lot of upper body strength
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 1: to lug those chains around and get them into place,
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 1: and make sure that the vehicle is properly secured so
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 1: it doesn't come off the back of the because it's
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 1: one of those where the vehicle is pulled up onto
• 2:38:32
  Speaker 1: a flatbed because it was it was a big van,
• 2:38:37
  Speaker 1: and so, you know, and we get to talking about
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 1: that and everything, and then we get to talking about
• 2:38:43
  Speaker 1: how it's not really fair that I can say that
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 1: but he can't without getting called a misogynist. And from
• 2:38:50
  Speaker 1: there I ended up getting the story of a false
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 1: allegation experience that occurred in his family, and a divorce
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 1: experience is basically a divorce rape experience that occurred in
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 1: his family. And we're talking immediate family, right, And you know,
• 2:39:12
  Speaker 1: it just like one after another, and the issues came up,
• 2:39:18
  Speaker 1: and he knew somebody, somebody I had just met that night,
• 2:39:23
  Speaker 1: knew somebody for every single men's issue I could discuss
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 1: with him, and that's happened to me at work, that's
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 1: happened to me at the store, that's happened to me
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 1: running into somebody at random on the bus on the
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 1: way home from ICMI twenty fourteen, a group of moms
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  Speaker 1: we sat around to discuss the boy crisis and education.
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  Speaker 1: It's every single person I run into, it seems like
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  Speaker 1: I can talk about these issues, and they know somebody
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  Speaker 1: who some guy who has been through hell because of
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 1: our society's treatment of men and because women are not
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  Speaker 1: expected to grow up. They know somebody who's been a
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  Speaker 1: victim of the accountability gap between men and women. And
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  Speaker 1: they understand in almost every case, they understand the importance
• 2:40:25
  Speaker 1: of masculine strength and masculine stoicism, masculine self accountability, and
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  Speaker 1: connection with other men in order for a man to
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 1: survive and recover from those circumstances. And yet this writer
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 1: can't even understand why men might not fully trust women,
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  Speaker 1: why men might want to keep us at arm's length
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, especially in the current legal environment.
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  Speaker 1: And she can't make the connection between men going on
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  Speaker 1: a romance strike and a partnership strike to force women
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  Speaker 1: to come to the negotiating table in the Gender War
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  Speaker 1: and women in an ancient play that went on a
• 2:41:22
  Speaker 1: sex strike to force Mending to negotiate peace in an
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  Speaker 1: actual violent war. Not that the gender war isn't violent.
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  Speaker 1: I mean throwing somebody in jail for something they didn't
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  Speaker 1: do is pretty violent. But any other thoughts on that
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  Speaker 1: Laura Bates is a fucking moron. Well, in that case,
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  Speaker 1: I think this will be the end of tonight's show.
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  Speaker 1: We have run really late, and I think I will
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  Speaker 1: call it. We do not have another super Chow, but
• 2:42:06
  Speaker 1: we do have another super chat, and I am trying
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  Speaker 1: to scroll there we go. I think we might have two,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna just double check here. Nope, just the one.
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  Speaker 1: So our our final super chat of the night that
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  Speaker 1: I am aware of. Uh, senior sticks times three. Our
• 2:42:26
  Speaker 1: senior tick Senior Sticks three thirty eleven gave us two
• 2:42:30
  Speaker 1: dollars and said one should not negotiate with bad actors. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because they lie.
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  Speaker 3: I feel attacked.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, I think you're a pretty good actor, but
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  Speaker 1: you can't really, you can't negotiate with liars.
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  Speaker 2: I think that I share a terrorists.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is true. That is true, all right, And
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any other super chats or super chows.
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  Speaker 1: So with that, I will thank my co hosts for
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  Speaker 1: joining me to continue to discuss this uh the the
• 2:43:04
  Speaker 1: ever deepening pile of ovine excrement. Thanks to the audience
• 2:43:10
  Speaker 1: for listening to us ramble and occasionally get back to
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  Speaker 1: the article. Thanks very much Brian for going late on
• 2:43:18
  Speaker 1: this and not not speaking up. It's thanks not complaining
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  Speaker 1: about it really, and good night all