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Steve Price | 28 March · Steve Price

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  Speaker 1: Live. This is Steve Price.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Friday Night. I want to get straight into
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  Speaker 2: it because, as we now know, Saturday May three and
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  Speaker 2: five weeks in a day, Australia goes to a federal
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  Speaker 2: election voting during a cost of living crisis. That, let's
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  Speaker 2: be honest, So there's absolutely no sign of changing energy bills,
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  Speaker 2: insurance renewals, the cost of everything in the supermarket, hospitality, airfares, fuel,
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  Speaker 2: everything these days seems more and more expensive. Steve Price
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  Speaker 2: with you? So I simply ask, how can the Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister stand in his camera courtyard this morning after a
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  Speaker 2: breaking tradition, an early morning visit to the Governor General
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  Speaker 2: on a Friday. How could he stand in that courtyard
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  Speaker 2: and say.
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  Speaker 3: This, because of the strength and resilience to our people
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  Speaker 3: have shown, Australia is turning the corner.
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  Speaker 2: Really does anyone believe that? I don't, And I'm not
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  Speaker 2: running a small business or feeding a family of kids
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  Speaker 2: or paying school fees. So I don't see what corner
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Albanize he's actually talking about. Given there has been
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  Speaker 2: just one interest rate cut in three or more years,
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  Speaker 2: where are in a housing crisis and a rental crisis? Look,
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  Speaker 2: I know the Prime Minister has to sound optimistic, but
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  Speaker 2: he needs to know that it is not the mood
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  Speaker 2: out there, especially in the outer suburbs of our three
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  Speaker 2: biggest cities like Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane. The next five weeks,
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  Speaker 2: well they will tell so on this Friday night coming
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  Speaker 2: up in our rolling coverage tonight, Sky's numbers mean. Tom
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  Speaker 2: Connell will take us through the basics of those numbers
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  Speaker 2: in a moment. How many seats will deliver a majority
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  Speaker 2: government to the Prime Minister or a majority government to
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  Speaker 2: the opposition will find out from Tom. Also the man
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  Speaker 2: who would be the Deputy Prime Minister, David Little, Proud
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  Speaker 2: National's Leader, on how his site Politics can actually win
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  Speaker 2: this election. Plus it's like Christmas an election campaign for
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  Speaker 2: political cartoonists Australia's best. Mark Knight joins us talking about
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  Speaker 2: Jim Chalmer's ears and Peter Dutton's bald head. Let's get
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  Speaker 2: going here, as Sky News political reporter Ruben Spargo on
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  Speaker 2: how it all kicked off today.
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  Speaker 4: Two rivals stepping forward, each vying to claim the nation's
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  Speaker 4: political destiny. Ready to go, you bet born Ready a
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  Speaker 4: campaign I nighting a battlefield for ballots now raging.
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  Speaker 3: The world Today is an uncertain place, but I am
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  Speaker 3: absolutely certain of this. Now is not the time for
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  Speaker 3: cutting and wrecking, for aiming low, punching down, or looking back.
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  Speaker 1: The Prime Minister has done a lot of damage to
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  Speaker 1: our country.
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  Speaker 5: He's heard a lot of people and a lot of
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  Speaker 5: people are really under the pump financially at the moment,
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  Speaker 5: and it's going to get worse if he's reelected. The
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  Speaker 5: Prime Minister and Opposition leader both know this election hinges
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  Speaker 5: on cost of living.
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  Speaker 4: Both claim to have a plan.
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  Speaker 3: Our government has chosen to face global challenges the Australian way,
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  Speaker 3: helping people under cost of living pressure while building for
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  Speaker 3: the future. Australia is turning the corner.
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  Speaker 5: There is a better way for our country and my
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  Speaker 5: team and I have a practical plan which will deliver
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  Speaker 5: cost of living relief and lower power prices into the future.
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  Speaker 4: The day began with Anthony Albernizi driving to Government House.
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  Speaker 4: Beneath the trees is a well worn path through history,
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  Speaker 4: but the road to victory is a different one. Both
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  Speaker 4: sides are trying to win enough seats to form majority government.
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  Speaker 4: The race to seventy six Labor is starting with a
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  Speaker 4: twenty two seat lead over the Coalition, but only a
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  Speaker 4: slim three seat majority. The next five weeks.
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  Speaker 5: Will deliver a deeply personal fight as both leaders try
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  Speaker 5: to convince voters they deserve to lead this parliament and
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  Speaker 5: the country.
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  Speaker 4: Ruben Spargo Sky News Camera.
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  Speaker 2: Good on you, Reuben, let's go joining us now. Sky
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  Speaker 2: News Australia Chief Election Analyst Tom Connell. He loves his stuff, Tom,
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  Speaker 2: Can you just give me and the audience a breakdown
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  Speaker 2: of what it will take for each of the major
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  Speaker 2: parties to form government in their own right, if that
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  Speaker 2: is even possible.
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  Speaker 6: It's certainly possible, it's just very unlikely because of the
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  Speaker 6: current polling. If we look at where the parliament at
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  Speaker 6: is that right now in the cast of this election
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  Speaker 6: you can see Labor with a very slim majority here,
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  Speaker 6: so they need seventy six seats. Essentially, what needs to
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  Speaker 6: happen is they need to just not lose more than two.
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  Speaker 6: If we bring up that graphic, we can see that
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  Speaker 6: and the Coalition need to essentially win twenty seats, give
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  Speaker 6: or take. Now, when we talk about what happens at elections,
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  Speaker 6: we do have and we generally talk about so called
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  Speaker 6: uniform swing so we're assuming that the swing just goes
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  Speaker 6: right the way saying right across the country, and if
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  Speaker 6: that happens, you pick up X number of seats. We
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  Speaker 6: know things don't always work out that well, Steve, but
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  Speaker 6: that's the sort of assumption we need to make. Now,
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  Speaker 6: someone can tell me if we're having an issue bringing
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  Speaker 6: up some of the information, because I feel as though
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  Speaker 6: it's a little bit hard to sort of digest without
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  Speaker 6: the information. But so the current state of the House
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  Speaker 6: has here we go, well, I'll talk to this. So
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  Speaker 6: you saw the state of the House in ribbons package.
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  Speaker 6: So the cross bench, this is the big thing. This
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  Speaker 6: is why there's so much talk about minority twenty ten
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  Speaker 6: cross bench.
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  Speaker 7: The last time.
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  Speaker 6: There was a minority, Steve, it was an absolute razor edge.
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  Speaker 6: It was basically fifty to fifty because there was only
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  Speaker 6: five in the cross bench.
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  Speaker 7: It had to be that tight. This time around, we
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  Speaker 7: have a cross bench of sixteen in twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 6: So if they all stay there, if they stay intact,
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  Speaker 6: they could grow, they could shrink. But if they stay there,
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  Speaker 6: labor needs at least on the uniform swing fifty one
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  Speaker 6: point four percent of two party per third. The Coalition
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  Speaker 6: needs nearly fifty four percent, so any swing of even
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  Speaker 6: one percent against labor and they're set to get a
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  Speaker 6: swing at the moment of two or three means they
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  Speaker 6: don't get majority, and the swing towards the coalition needs
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  Speaker 6: to be sick, so about double what it is right now.
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  Speaker 6: Now things can change. If the Greens lose two or three, well,
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  Speaker 6: then that narrows the amount that both sides win. If
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  Speaker 6: TiAl seats go to the Coalition, the amount of swing they.
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  Speaker 1: Need is less.
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  Speaker 6: But that just shows because at the moment the cross
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  Speaker 6: Bench in all the contests except two Green seats, the
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  Speaker 6: cross Bench's favorite to keep their seats. So if we
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  Speaker 6: assume it's a pretty similar number, that just paints the
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  Speaker 6: picture for why we're talking about a.
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  Speaker 7: Likely minority government.
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  Speaker 1: Things could change.
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  Speaker 6: There might be a late rush to the so called
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  Speaker 6: favorite party at that point to win the most seats,
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  Speaker 6: but for now that's been pretty stuck that polling, and
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  Speaker 6: that suggests we are headed for the minority.
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  Speaker 2: Tom What makes election so fascinating is, I mean, depending
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  Speaker 2: upon where you live, the mood is always slightly different.
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  Speaker 2: Sky's got assets in each state, and so we're going
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  Speaker 2: to be able to pick keep people up to date
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  Speaker 2: on that living here in Victoria, I mean the Labor brand,
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  Speaker 2: and you have been talking about this during the day.
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  Speaker 2: It's busted here in Victoria. I mean, you know there
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  Speaker 2: are a number of seats up for grabs here, but
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  Speaker 2: also you talk about those Teals Kujong and Goldstein, I
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  Speaker 2: think they go back to the Liberals. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: can't see Manique Ryan that poster of ripping down exercised
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  Speaker 2: by her husband didn't help. And I think Tim Wilson
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  Speaker 2: in Goldstein, he's been the former a member there and
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  Speaker 2: he's been running a campaign basically for the entire three
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  Speaker 2: years the government's been in. What do you make of
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  Speaker 2: those two TiAl seats there and what other seats could
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  Speaker 2: potentially in Victoria go to the coalition.
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  Speaker 7: I'll take you through this sort of picture briefly.
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  Speaker 6: So nationwide the most likely seats at least on margin
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  Speaker 6: for the coalition to pick up.
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  Speaker 7: They do have some targets right across the country. So
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  Speaker 7: if we bring up what.
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  Speaker 6: We've got here, there are seats the country I mean
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  Speaker 6: curtains a Teal seat, the rest of them are Labor
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  Speaker 6: seats except those Greens one. So there are lots of
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  Speaker 6: different contests. As you just spoke about Steve wa huge
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  Speaker 6: swing to Label last time. It's going to come back,
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  Speaker 6: but the margins are so big it's unlikely they'll get
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  Speaker 6: more than two or three of the coalition. In Queensland,
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  Speaker 6: the coalitions, it's such a high water markets. Brisbane and
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  Speaker 6: Ryan the most likely ones they win that Brisbane could
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  Speaker 6: actually be a labor pickup booth be pretty tight.
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  Speaker 7: McEwan and Chisholm around Victoria.
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  Speaker 6: Ones and we've got Patterson, Robertson and New South Wales,
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  Speaker 6: Linger and the NT. So they've got targets all over
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  Speaker 6: the country that are perfectly gettible with this on average
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  Speaker 6: three percent swing.
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  Speaker 7: I think where it gets really interesting.
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  Speaker 6: You talked there about Victorian vulnerabilities. What's interesting here is
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  Speaker 6: you alluded to the Labor brand. It is very poor
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  Speaker 6: in Victoria right now. So the uniform swing in Victoria
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  Speaker 6: on those numbers the Liberal Party gets no seats, well,
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  Speaker 6: we think it will be much bigger.
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  Speaker 7: In Victoria than three percent. What does that bring into play?
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  Speaker 6: Look, Aston's almost a certain Liberal gain that was the one.
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  Speaker 6: Of course, the Labor Party one by election that's basically
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  Speaker 6: gone Chi isn't. Maybe favorites in the rest are a
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  Speaker 6: qan slight favorite of the Liberal Party, but the rest
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  Speaker 6: is really going to depend how big this swing is.
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  Speaker 6: And note where they are. These are the outer suburbs.
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  Speaker 6: This is part of the Peter Dutton strategy. You even
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  Speaker 6: think of something like the fuel cut, the fuel excise cut.
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  Speaker 7: These are people out in the suburbs.
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  Speaker 6: These seats, including Bruce have many more people with three
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  Speaker 6: cars or more.
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  Speaker 7: They will care more about that. So Victoria is going
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  Speaker 7: to be a huge part.
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  Speaker 6: Of the election when we think of that. And I
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  Speaker 6: think there's another part of this, Steve. When you win
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  Speaker 6: almost this one too many elections, and by that I
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  Speaker 6: mean you probably would have lost with a good opposition,
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  Speaker 6: but you win often you really get whacked afterwards.
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  Speaker 7: Think of the last state election of Victoria. Liberal Party
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  Speaker 7: didn't have their act together. The last federal election in
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  Speaker 7: twenty nineteen. You know that one Scott Morrison maybe shouldn't
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  Speaker 7: have won because.
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  Speaker 6: They're on the nose. They did win and then they
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  Speaker 6: got whacked afterwards. So I think there's an element of
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  Speaker 6: that now in Victoria. When you spoke about those Till seats,
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  Speaker 6: we'll bring up the options the margins if you like.
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  Speaker 6: Look the two ones in Victoria I think are the
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  Speaker 6: most likely to go, particularly Goldstein. This is a broad map,
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  Speaker 6: but Goldstein's a little bit further out. So we think
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  Speaker 6: of climate back two hundred independents. The real gold for
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  Speaker 6: them is closer to the city. Goldstein's a little bit
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  Speaker 6: further out. So I think that there is a big
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  Speaker 6: chance of Liberal Party pick up Goldstein.
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  Speaker 7: I'm less certain about Kuyong.
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  Speaker 6: What's interesting is McCalla is another one like Goldstein, it's
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  Speaker 6: just a little bit further out. This was the two
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  Speaker 6: party preferred. Now this is one pole. We're always wary
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  Speaker 6: of one seat pole Steed. But still that's a very
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  Speaker 6: significant turnaround. And the thing about these seats, you saw
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  Speaker 6: margins of three percent four percent. It's very different to
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  Speaker 6: a labor liberal three four percent. You need quite a
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  Speaker 6: bit of change for that to happen in these seats,
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  Speaker 6: the independence one with primaries of thirty or so percent,
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  Speaker 6: you don't need much change to that primary shift around
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  Speaker 6: for that equation to change. It's a little bit different
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  Speaker 6: to that traditional labor liberal contest when you're talking about
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  Speaker 6: a primary that's in the very low thirties for the
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  Speaker 6: independence so they'll all be a watch. I think if
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  Speaker 6: there's an order of how they go, probably say Goldstein
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  Speaker 6: Curtain then Coujong New Southwell seems to be holding up
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  Speaker 6: better at the moment, albeit they're still likely to be
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  Speaker 6: some swings up there for the independent seats.
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  Speaker 2: Good stuff, Tom, I look forward to your intel right
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  Speaker 2: through the election campaign. Good luck, good luck over the
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  Speaker 2: next five weeks. That's Tom Connell there now. Peter duttonheld
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  Speaker 2: his first election campaign media conference that was in Brisbane
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  Speaker 2: just before lunchtime, basically reiterating his budget in reply speech
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  Speaker 2: from last night and when asked about being framed as
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  Speaker 2: Australia's Donald Trump, he had a slap as he should
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  Speaker 2: have at the PM.
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  Speaker 5: You know, the sledge of thon is on by the
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  Speaker 5: Prime Minister because he doesn't have a good story to
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  Speaker 5: tell about his three years in government.
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  Speaker 2: Sledge ofthon is such a great word. And I do
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  Speaker 2: know news just in that the Prime Minister Anthony Alberanezi
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  Speaker 2: has jetted into Brisbane tonight, so clearly they are looking
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  Speaker 2: at trying to claw back those three seats won by
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  Speaker 2: the Greens. Let's bring in Nationals leader. Speaking of Queensland,
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  Speaker 2: David Little Proud, who could be of course our next
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  Speaker 2: Deputy Prime Minister, David good Luck over the next five weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting that Albanez has chosen to go straight to Brisbane.
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  Speaker 2: What do you make of that?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, from what I hear that there are some
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  Speaker 8: challenges for Anika Wells and obviously it'll be interesting to
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  Speaker 8: see where the Prime Minister turns up tomorrow as well
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  Speaker 8: as I would suggest that Blair is at risk as well.
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  Speaker 8: I don't think that's been put on the analysis. I
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  Speaker 8: think there's a strong candidate there and a strong chance
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  Speaker 8: for US, but Brisbane and Ryan are both seats that
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  Speaker 8: I think that the National and Liberal Party can pick
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  Speaker 8: up in Queensland. So while we're at a high watermark,
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  Speaker 8: I still think there's some seats of your gain for
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  Speaker 8: the Coalition in Queensland. And I think that testament to
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  Speaker 8: the fact that Peter's run a very strong campaign's very
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  Speaker 8: popular in Queensland.
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  Speaker 2: Does that help that he is a Queenslander. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: obviously when you come from a particular state, you're better
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  Speaker 2: known there. Queenslanders seemed to be embracing Peter Dutton.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think we're pretty pragmatic bunch up here, and
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  Speaker 8: I think we embraced those that just use some common sense.
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  Speaker 8: We're back to basics up here in Queensland and we
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  Speaker 8: don't take phils lightly. So I just think Peter is
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  Speaker 8: one of us. And I think we've taken prime ministers.
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  Speaker 8: I mean John Howard was a very popular prime minister
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  Speaker 8: up here, very popular, and we did have a love
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  Speaker 8: affair with Kevin Rudd, but when we found out he
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  Speaker 8: didn't have any common sense, we lost him pretty quick.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, your theory about Queenslander's fallers in the heat when
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  Speaker 2: you talk about Kevin Rudd. We saw the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: come out into that Parliamentary, the Prime Ministerial courtyard today
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  Speaker 2: and one of his first words was, you know, we've
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  Speaker 2: turned the corner. I mean, seriously, Nobody that I speak to,
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  Speaker 2: and I speak to a lot of people, I catch
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  Speaker 2: a lot of public transport. I try and talk to
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  Speaker 2: as many people from different parts of Australia as possible.
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  Speaker 2: No one tells me that they're better off today than
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  Speaker 2: they were three years ago. You can't make that argument.
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  Speaker 2: It's just rubbish.
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  Speaker 8: Well, it just goes to show how to touch and
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  Speaker 8: the measures that they put in this budget giving seventy
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  Speaker 8: cents in fifteen months. Time fails to show that the
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  Speaker 8: Prime Minister has any grasp of the cost of living pressure.
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  Speaker 8: Out there in the heartland of Australia, there's mums and
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  Speaker 8: dads tonight that can't afford to put food on the
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  Speaker 8: table for their children. In a country as rich as this,
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  Speaker 8: you got a prime minister that's going to give them
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  Speaker 8: seventy cents in fifteen months. He hasn't had the courage
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  Speaker 8: to take on the supermarkets. He's had a business as
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  Speaker 8: usual approach with them, and he hasn't had the courage
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  Speaker 8: to face into the energy crisis we've got in this country. Instead,
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  Speaker 8: he's tried to kick it down the road and kick
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  Speaker 8: it down with your money, and ultimately what happens is
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  Speaker 8: you can subsidize and give rebates all the cows come home.
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  Speaker 8: But eventually what happens is your money runs out. When
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  Speaker 8: it runs out, the merrygames stop, it stops. You get
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  Speaker 8: left with the bill and you don't have an energy system.
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  Speaker 8: You've got to have leadership. You've got to have someone
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  Speaker 8: that's prepared to have the courage to say we're.
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  Speaker 1: Going to fix this.
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  Speaker 8: We've got all the resources here to do it, but
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  Speaker 8: instead Anthony Albanie hasn't a record to actually campaign on.
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  Speaker 8: He's telling us we haven't had it any better than
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  Speaker 8: we should expect. And the reality is is Australians are
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  Speaker 8: paying the deep price for it.
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  Speaker 2: I reckon the fuel exercise decision taken by the Coalition
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  Speaker 2: is going to be hugely popular. I mean, I mean
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  Speaker 2: you live in you live in the bush. I mean
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  Speaker 2: people who live in Country Australia, they fill their cars
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  Speaker 2: up a lot with fuel. I mean obviously petrol and
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  Speaker 2: diesel prices. If you suddenly turn up after the election,
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  Speaker 2: Peter Dutton, then you have won and you go to
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  Speaker 2: the garage and you've got a twenty five percent discount
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  Speaker 2: on your petrol. That's a meaningful, a meaningful change because
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  Speaker 2: some people are filling their cars up two or three
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  Speaker 2: times a week.
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  Speaker 8: OHI and you look at the congestion as you come
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  Speaker 8: through the city as I came through today to get
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  Speaker 8: out of Brisbane to get home. The reality is congestions there.
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  Speaker 8: You're burning it up every day. This is something that's
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  Speaker 8: very meaningful that people will see in their wallets. They
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  Speaker 8: will give them that relief. And we've said we'll look
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  Speaker 8: at it at the end of the twelve months, because
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  Speaker 8: it is only a fraction of the seventy cents that
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  Speaker 8: you're going to get in fifteen months. That's got a
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  Speaker 8: bill of over seventeen billion dollars. This is six billion
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  Speaker 8: dollars and we're being responsible. We just can't keep throwing
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  Speaker 8: money out one after another. We've got to be sensible
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  Speaker 8: about this. We've got to look you in the eye
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  Speaker 8: and say, there's so much that we can do. We'll
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  Speaker 8: do something that's targeted that it's going to give you
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  Speaker 8: us some relief.
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  Speaker 1: And what Anthony.
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  Speaker 8: Albinezi has done is down the track and it's not
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  Speaker 8: tax reform. When we actually address the bracket creep, we'll
• 16:47
  Speaker 8: do it properly and we'll do it and we've got
• 16:48
  Speaker 8: the money because that's the right thing to do.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I watched with interest the live sheet protests across Perth today,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: massive numbers of people, trucks. That is going to have
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: an impact on the vote in Wa, is it not?
• 17:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 17:06
  Speaker 8: And I think that's why you saw the Independent in
• 17:10
  Speaker 8: Curtin Kate Cheney flip flop on her decision. She was
• 17:14
  Speaker 8: idologically against the live sheep industry. All of a sudden
• 17:18
  Speaker 8: Western Australians rightfully were angry about this because there's no
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: scientific or economic reason to do this. In fact, us
• 17:25
  Speaker 8: cutting and running, Anthony Albanezy cutting and running will mean
• 17:29
  Speaker 8: that there'll be the perverse and horrific death of millions
• 17:32
  Speaker 8: of sheep from other parts of the world, from those
• 17:35
  Speaker 8: markets like South Africa, Sudan and Ethiopia who come and
• 17:39
  Speaker 8: take this market up. And he's prepared to do that
• 17:42
  Speaker 8: just because he did a deal with the Animal Justice Party.
• 17:45
  Speaker 8: Now Kate Cheney started to realize that, but she's still
• 17:48
  Speaker 8: been a little bit on the fence and might't say
• 17:51
  Speaker 8: whether she'll vote with us. Because the first thing I'll
• 17:53
  Speaker 8: do if I become the next Deputy Prime Minister is
• 17:57
  Speaker 8: bring a billion to reinstate it and my first trip
• 17:59
  Speaker 8: will to show respect to those Middle East countries Qait Qatar, Jordan,
• 18:04
  Speaker 8: Saudi Arabian, Morocco that we can be trusted with their
• 18:07
  Speaker 8: food security. I'm sad I couldn't get there, but we've
• 18:10
  Speaker 8: got a pretty serious unfolding disaster oute in Western Queensland
• 18:14
  Speaker 8: as we speak, and I'm going to head out there
• 18:16
  Speaker 8: to be with my people tomorrow. But I understand it
• 18:19
  Speaker 8: was a great rally.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen those floodwaters. That looks pretty grim. I
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: hope everyone's okay out there. David, good luck Over the
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: next five weeks we'll catch up. I'm sure on a
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Friday night between now and polling day that's David little
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: proud there. He could be the next Deputy Prime Minister
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: of Australia. Now, after the break, I want to talk
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: about the gas debate. I mean it heats up obviously
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: following Peter Dutton's vow on Thursday night to prioritize the
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: domestic supply of gas. Plus, can the Greens hold on
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: to their three seats in Queensland? Welcome back to price
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: with you on Friday night. Energy is going to be,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: as we know, one of the major issues in this
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: upcoming election campaign. Now the Albanezy government has been forced
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: to strike an energy gas deal to ensure that the
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: States can actually make it through winter. Can you believe it?
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: And in his Budget reply speech last night, Peter Dutton
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: revealed a coalition government would prioritize domestic gas supply. The
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: some debate today around how that will actually happen. My
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: next guest recently found himself in what I think was
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: a war that needed to happen, a war of words
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: with Victorian Energy Minister Lily di Ambrosio after he labeled
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: the state's planned this is a direct quote to ditch
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: gas as lazy and ridiculous Victorian Chamber of Commerce and
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Industry Chief executive Paul where it joins us.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: You're right.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I mean we're being told you can't even put a
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: new gas stove in a house.
• 19:48
  Speaker 10: Yeah, So we've got to get we've got to make
• 19:50
  Speaker 10: sure that we have affordable and reliable energy into the future.
• 19:54
  Speaker 10: Whether that's gas and electricity, it doesn't matter. That's what
• 19:57
  Speaker 10: our country has been prosperous off and that's what we
• 20:00
  Speaker 10: need to go into the future.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: So Victorian government and the premiere Cinderella or Lily d
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Ambrosia talk to the industry.
• 20:06
  Speaker 10: Oh they're starting to.
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 20:08
  Speaker 10: I mean, what we're trying to do is forger path forward.
• 20:11
  Speaker 10: We can't have a situation where people are being told
• 20:13
  Speaker 10: to jump off certain forms of energy. That's not what
• 20:16
  Speaker 10: it's about. We'll make the choice that we need to
• 20:19
  Speaker 10: ultimately stay without gas. There is no industry here, and
• 20:22
  Speaker 10: if we don't have industry here, there's no communities.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: So the whole country needs gas. I mean, Victoria has
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: been a black hole for a long time. On Shore
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: gas exploration was banned by the Labor government under Daniel Andrews.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Would gas companies be prepared to come back and look
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: for that gas and does it exist?
• 20:41
  Speaker 10: Yeah, we're starting to see that now. So there's been
• 20:43
  Speaker 10: a softening in language from the Allen Labor government, which
• 20:46
  Speaker 10: has been good. They're economic well after you gave them
• 20:49
  Speaker 10: a whack, well probably before that, but there's still mixed
• 20:53
  Speaker 10: messages there. But it's good to see the softening and
• 20:56
  Speaker 10: now we're starting to see investment coming back into it.
• 21:00
  Speaker 10: Had an announcement this week with exploration for more gas
• 21:03
  Speaker 10: and we've had xCE on with Woodside saying they're looking
• 21:05
  Speaker 10: for more in Bastrat as well.
• 21:06
  Speaker 11: So that's good.
• 21:07
  Speaker 10: We want to see more because the experts tell me
• 21:10
  Speaker 10: there is more, so let's go and find it.
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: So do you have.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Faith that the our government will change their view or
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: are they so wedded to their renewable plan that they
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: can't see a time for gas? What happens if we
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: don't have a gas.
• 21:26
  Speaker 10: Suppl And that's the problem, and that's why we're going
• 21:28
  Speaker 10: to keep pushing Steve. But if we don't have gas supply,
• 21:30
  Speaker 10: we don't have industry. If we don't have industry, we
• 21:32
  Speaker 10: don't have jobs, and if we don't have jobs, we
• 21:34
  Speaker 10: don't have a community. Right, We're all up for the
• 21:36
  Speaker 10: ambition of net zero zero is a worthwhile one, there's
• 21:39
  Speaker 10: no issue about that. But how do we get there
• 21:42
  Speaker 10: to make sure that business remains viable and residents can
• 21:45
  Speaker 10: still afford energy so we can't have this situation of
• 21:48
  Speaker 10: energy poverty. We want to make sure that we get
• 21:51
  Speaker 10: to net zero in a way that is affordable and reliable,
• 21:54
  Speaker 10: and gas plays an important part.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: What did you make a Peter Dutton saying I want
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: to reserve Australian gas for Australian Yeah.
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: So, look, we're in an interesting time. Ordinarily we would
• 22:03
  Speaker 10: say don't rip up existing contracts, but we're not in
• 22:05
  Speaker 10: normal times now. I think Trump's changed the agenda there
• 22:08
  Speaker 10: and I think it's right to put Australia forward, And
• 22:11
  Speaker 10: ultimately we put Australia forward by doing one of two things,
• 22:15
  Speaker 10: or both reserve some of that gas for Australians or
• 22:18
  Speaker 10: go and find more and generate more if that's possible
• 22:21
  Speaker 10: as well. But I think we've got to make sure
• 22:23
  Speaker 10: that Australia is protected first and foremost if the tariffs
• 22:26
  Speaker 10: come in, if we don't have manufacturing in this country,
• 22:28
  Speaker 10: if we don't have gas in this country, it's going
• 22:30
  Speaker 10: to be really I want you to have a.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Look at this ad. This is the Australian Institute of
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: put this add up. It's been running here on sky.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I think it demonizes the gas industry and it's intimidating
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: to women. Have a look at this.
• 23:00
  Speaker 12: Big Gas takes fifty six percent of our gas for free.
• 23:06
  Speaker 9: That's just taking a piece. It's time, pile.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Of my axe.
• 23:12
  Speaker 10: How's that helpful? All were back in the seventies. Yeah,
• 23:14
  Speaker 10: I mean clearly that's wrong on so many.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Levels, so many levels. It's the treatment of the women
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: at the bar. Someone's stealing their beer, is spitting into it.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Demonizing gas is some big you know, Buffy man.
• 23:26
  Speaker 10: But the facts are and the gas industry can speak
• 23:29
  Speaker 10: for themselves. Every bit of gas that gets exported gets
• 23:32
  Speaker 10: a return for Australians, and I think we're up to
• 23:34
  Speaker 10: about seventeen billion dollars returned back to Australia, so worthwhile asset. Yes,
• 23:38
  Speaker 10: we export it and we take a tariff on the export.
• 23:41
  Speaker 10: Keep up the good fight, Paul, thanks you, I Paul Guerra.
• 23:43
  Speaker 10: They're coming up the after the break. Campbell Newman, he's
• 23:48
  Speaker 10: here with us. Now let's head to Queensland. Joining me
• 23:50
  Speaker 10: now from the Queensland Premier, Campbell Newman. I thought we're
• 23:52
  Speaker 10: having a break.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: We're not. Campbell. The Greens currently hold three seats in Queensland.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: You're our man. You understand Queensland politics as well as anybody. Brisbane,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Griffith and Ryan. Can they hang on?
• 24:06
  Speaker 13: Look, that's a really interesting part of the federal campaign
• 24:10
  Speaker 13: fight over the coming weeks, just to go through them.
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: I think that.
• 24:16
  Speaker 13: Firstly the seat of Ryan in Brisbane's West, held by
• 24:22
  Speaker 13: Elizabeth Watson Brown. I would tip that that one's going
• 24:25
  Speaker 13: to go back to the LLNP. They only have a
• 24:28
  Speaker 13: great candidate, a young barrister Maggie Forrest, who used to
• 24:32
  Speaker 13: work as a staff in my government a decade ago,
• 24:35
  Speaker 13: to a terrific young woman. I think that goes back
• 24:38
  Speaker 13: to the LNP.
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: The seat of Brisbane.
• 24:41
  Speaker 13: Stephen Bates, the Green member who Green's member, who's a
• 24:44
  Speaker 13: very likable young man.
• 24:47
  Speaker 9: I've had a few dealings with him.
• 24:49
  Speaker 13: He's been terrific, but he's up against Trevor Evans, the
• 24:52
  Speaker 13: LNP candidate, a former member, and also Madonna Jarrett who's.
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: Of the Labor candidate and as a radiographer.
• 25:02
  Speaker 13: And look, I think the LNP could potentially reclaim that one.
• 25:06
  Speaker 13: But if the LMP don't reclaim it, I'd see it
• 25:09
  Speaker 13: going to the Labor Party and that stadium, which will
• 25:13
  Speaker 13: probably I'd reassure that we shouldn't talk about this afternoon.
• 25:17
  Speaker 9: That might be a factor in that campaign.
• 25:19
  Speaker 13: And the final one is the issue of Griffith with
• 25:22
  Speaker 13: Max Chandler mayor who's a very i suppose a very
• 25:26
  Speaker 13: active Greens member particularly and leader in the state. Now
• 25:32
  Speaker 13: so far the l and P don't have a candidate
• 25:34
  Speaker 13: Steve as I'm just checking this afternoon.
• 25:37
  Speaker 9: They don't have someone so Renee.
• 25:38
  Speaker 13: Coffee, who is a friend of the Rudd family and
• 25:44
  Speaker 13: has run Cooker Bar, a kids a charity.
• 25:46
  Speaker 9: She's the Labor candidate.
• 25:48
  Speaker 13: Look, I think the Labor Party we're having a red
• 25:51
  Speaker 13: hot getting that back. So in summary, Ryan to the LNP,
• 25:58
  Speaker 13: the Greens lose Brisbane by the Labor Party of the LMP.
• 26:01
  Speaker 13: I think the LNP can do it, and then it's
• 26:04
  Speaker 13: going to be interesting, but I think the Greens will
• 26:07
  Speaker 13: lose the seat to the Labor Party in Griffith.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Interesting Anthony Albanezi the Prime Minister, I mean, he called
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: the election at seven o'clock this morning, went to the
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Governor General, obviously, did the normal media conference, jumped on
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: our version of Air Force one. He's in Brisbane tonight,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: so clearly he believes that he needs to be on
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: the ground in Brisbane for the start of the campaign
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: tomorrow morning.
• 26:37
  Speaker 9: Absolutely.
• 26:38
  Speaker 13: And the other seat, of course up north with the
• 26:42
  Speaker 13: retirement of Warren Eensin in Leichhard, I think the Labor
• 26:46
  Speaker 13: Party are going to have a red hot.
• 26:47
  Speaker 9: Go there, but I.
• 26:50
  Speaker 13: Can't see them picking it up this time round the all,
• 26:52
  Speaker 13: They've got a very popular, well known candidate there, nex
• 26:56
  Speaker 13: pro basketball player. But now look, I don't think Queensland
• 27:02
  Speaker 13: has have a lot of time for albow.
• 27:05
  Speaker 9: But we'll see. Mate. Hey, by the way, can we
• 27:07
  Speaker 9: just go back to the interview you're doing.
• 27:10
  Speaker 13: Before about gas and I say quite unequivocally, it is
• 27:13
  Speaker 13: absolutely disgraceful to see a policy of gas reservation. I'm
• 27:19
  Speaker 13: unequivocally opposed to it because the gas that's come out
• 27:22
  Speaker 13: of Queensland only.
• 27:25
  Speaker 9: Was developed because of export markets.
• 27:27
  Speaker 13: And for Victorians to wine and winge and say we're
• 27:31
  Speaker 13: running out of gas.
• 27:32
  Speaker 9: Is Victoria's problem. There's a ton.
• 27:35
  Speaker 13: Of gas under the ground in Victoria. The trouble is
• 27:38
  Speaker 13: the Labor Party followed by a weak Liberal Party are
• 27:41
  Speaker 13: two gutless to go and get it.
• 27:43
  Speaker 9: And there's the problem.
• 27:44
  Speaker 13: And if Victoria wants to be the powerhouse of manufacturing
• 27:48
  Speaker 13: that it's been for many decades, that go and get
• 27:50
  Speaker 13: your own gas and stop interfering in the marketplace. It's
• 27:54
  Speaker 13: a terrible policy. I'm really disappointed that Peter Dutton has
• 27:59
  Speaker 13: proposed it. By the way, Lave part of course has
• 28:01
  Speaker 13: been just as bad. There's lots of gas. We shouldn't
• 28:04
  Speaker 13: be importing it. We should go and get what we've got.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Just finally, the Olympic stadium issue, and I promise we
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: wouldn't talk about it, but will that be a campaign
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: issue at all? Around the seat around Victoria Park where
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: you are so adamant it should not be.
• 28:22
  Speaker 9: Looking Yeah, look it could be Steve.
• 28:26
  Speaker 13: I think both the candidates I mentioned before from the
• 28:30
  Speaker 13: Lave Hearty Madonna and from the helm P Sir Trevor
• 28:35
  Speaker 13: Well well, we'll have a bit of pressure placed them
• 28:38
  Speaker 13: by residents to stake a position. I mean the Greens,
• 28:42
  Speaker 13: like wal MP Stephen Bates has already said that he's
• 28:46
  Speaker 13: opposed to it, so maybe that'll give him a bit
• 28:49
  Speaker 13: of a bit of a leg up. I think the
• 28:51
  Speaker 13: big issue though as well, that's going to confront both orders,
• 28:54
  Speaker 13: both the PM and Peter Dutton, is this two point
• 28:57
  Speaker 13: five billion that the Comworth had sort of promised towards
• 29:01
  Speaker 13: one of the venues, and what David Christoph Fawley is
• 29:04
  Speaker 13: trying to do now is go, well, we're not going
• 29:06
  Speaker 13: to do it that way, but can you put the
• 29:08
  Speaker 13: money over there? Well, my prediction there is both learners
• 29:11
  Speaker 13: in between a rock and a hard place. They don't
• 29:14
  Speaker 13: want to be seeing to be against the Olympics and
• 29:16
  Speaker 13: getting in the way, and I think ultimately they're going
• 29:18
  Speaker 13: to fold and commit to Well. I think the PM
• 29:22
  Speaker 13: will fold. I think Peter Dutton will be delighted to
• 29:26
  Speaker 13: support christ Of Fawley putting the money wherever he likes,
• 29:29
  Speaker 13: even if it means Victoria Park Stadium is going to
• 29:31
  Speaker 13: be built.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Good on you keep an eye on things up there
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: for us. We'll talk to you next Friday. That is
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: thanks Campbell NYM. Now after the break, we'll look at
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: the week that was in cartoons with Mark Night. Plus
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: new laws have been passed to protect Tasmanian salmon farmers.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: But is the fight really over? Welcome back to Steve
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Price with you. We'll look at that salmon deal in
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Tasmania in a moment. But let's go to cartoons. The
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: car cartoons of the week. It's a federal election campaign.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: It's like grand final week in Christmas, all wrapped up
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: into one heralds on cartoonist Mark Knight joins us, do
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: you love a campaign?
• 30:09
  Speaker 12: It's made for cartoonist Steve I just and even this
• 30:13
  Speaker 12: week we saw little little accidents happening and cartoonists love
• 30:17
  Speaker 12: that week.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting there on Tuesday night watching the treasure of
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Jim Chalmers given his budget speech. Yes, and I hadn't
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: noticed before how.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Big is ears are?
• 30:27
  Speaker 9: What?
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: And then you're drawing and I thought, there what he has.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: A mighty set of years.
• 30:35
  Speaker 12: Whether he uses them for listening to the electorate, who knows,
• 30:38
  Speaker 12: but they are pretty good. Yeah, they are taxing the
• 30:41
  Speaker 12: doors wide open.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Peter Dutton's bald head and Jim Chalmers big ears.
• 30:47
  Speaker 12: I think, yes, yeah, yeah.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: So the I want to talk to you about the
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: fuel cuts. Yes, what did you draw about?
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: That?
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Is Peter Dutton open upper garret.
• 30:55
  Speaker 12: Well, Dutton's discount fuel. It's it's it's the It's the
• 30:58
  Speaker 12: new business Street of Australia, except if you drive a
• 31:03
  Speaker 12: labor party EV you won't find any pleasure there because
• 31:06
  Speaker 12: apparently they don't have EV charging stations, as I've shown
• 31:08
  Speaker 12: in this cartoon. But I think the thing for I
• 31:11
  Speaker 12: think it's a good move by Petty Dunn, and I
• 31:13
  Speaker 12: think people will enjoy that, those of us who drive
• 31:15
  Speaker 12: big utes, but those of us who drive EV's like Elbow,
• 31:19
  Speaker 12: I'll get no pleasure out of it.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: This is funny, you know he supports EV's Elbow. Yes,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: it's prime Minsterio cars BMW seven series with a triple
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: turbo charge that has to be filled up every fighter.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: The teals. I'm sure doctor Monique Ryan wasn't very happy.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you got that right. It's very upset about that.
• 31:39
  Speaker 12: And that's one of the little things that happened this week,
• 31:41
  Speaker 12: these lovely little things that happen on an election campaigns.
• 31:45
  Speaker 12: Her husband goes around and pilfers the opposition's core flute.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: It gets caught.
• 31:51
  Speaker 12: Yes, And of course you know the first as soon
• 31:53
  Speaker 12: as I saw and I thought, teal no steal.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Perfect, it couldn't be better. Renewables. Have you done on renewables?
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Ah, renewables?
• 32:02
  Speaker 12: Well, Albow was renewables haven't quite brought our power bills down.
• 32:06
  Speaker 12: So Albow's got to give us one hundred and fifty bucks.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: And I thought, how are we going to.
• 32:11
  Speaker 12: Distribute that money? Well, let's just stand up on one
• 32:13
  Speaker 12: of those mighty big fans and it'll just blow it
• 32:16
  Speaker 12: all over the country. So that is what I think
• 32:19
  Speaker 12: renewables are actually helping our power prices come down.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Now, speaking big ears, Jim brim Jim as people call him,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: he's announced some tax cuts. How did that go down
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: on the drawing board this week?
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: Here he is.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: He's in a pub.
• 32:34
  Speaker 12: Yeah, well he's in a pub. And you know, the
• 32:38
  Speaker 12: first thing I thought was, this is small beer? Five bucks?
• 32:40
  Speaker 12: What do you get five bucks a week? That's a
• 32:42
  Speaker 12: cup of well, you can buy a little pony shandy,
• 32:47
  Speaker 12: yeah drink remember.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: The sevens in the old days.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I think that my butcher in Italy, Yeah, yeah.
• 32:53
  Speaker 12: Right, well, I think the ponies are smaller and this
• 32:55
  Speaker 12: is his offering. And if you look in the background
• 32:56
  Speaker 12: of that cartoon you'll see a calendar and it had
• 32:59
  Speaker 12: a few eight's marked out and of course elbows on
• 33:02
  Speaker 12: there looking very macular attractive to the voters.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I've written a column about cash hand ads. I said,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: we've gone from being the lucky country perhaps to the
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: lazy country or the handout country. What have you done
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: for me?
• 33:15
  Speaker 12: I love your Friday column. It fires me up for
• 33:17
  Speaker 12: the weekend and you haven't held back. Well, the handouts
• 33:21
  Speaker 12: are amazing. If you look at the budget, the money
• 33:23
  Speaker 12: that is going out the door for all various whether
• 33:25
  Speaker 12: it's the NDIS or power. What are we spending to
• 33:29
  Speaker 12: reduce our power bills? Is it seventeen billion dollars something
• 33:32
  Speaker 12: to that effect? A lot of money here medy care
• 33:35
  Speaker 12: And so I thought, what is a how to vote
• 33:38
  Speaker 12: card these days? Well, it's obviously a five or a
• 33:40
  Speaker 12: ten dollar note. As you walk in and there's Peter
• 33:44
  Speaker 12: Dutton and alban Esi handing out.
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  Speaker 2: The cash, You're in fine form, Mark, thanks mate. Luck
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: for the next five weeks. I'll be looking forward to
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: seeing and you not. I'll be back with us in
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, time to update us on the
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: election now coming up. On Wednesday, legislation was finally passed
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: to tech tas Mania's salmon industry, following, of course, we've
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: had months of uncertainty where farmers feared a labor review
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: would actually see salmon farming band joining me now in
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: I guess what's day one of the election campaign? Shadow
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: environment A spokesman Jonathan Dunham, Jonathan, good to see you again.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: It must be a relief.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: But do you trust.
• 34:20
  Speaker 14: Them about as far as I could drop kick a
• 34:25
  Speaker 14: range for over.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Trust them on this one?
• 34:29
  Speaker 14: I mean, why did it take them eighteen months after
• 34:32
  Speaker 14: this terrible sorry saga started when Tania Plipasec gave into
• 34:37
  Speaker 14: the Bob Brown Foundation and the taxpayer funded EDO and
• 34:40
  Speaker 14: start reviewing the permits for the sustainable industry. Why didn't
• 34:44
  Speaker 14: they act over a year ago when we first started
• 34:47
  Speaker 14: raising this issue along with industry. They were hoping the
• 34:50
  Speaker 14: issue would go away, that they could go to the
• 34:52
  Speaker 14: election and no one would think about it and see it.
• 34:55
  Speaker 14: And the other reality here they were dealing with was
• 34:58
  Speaker 14: Tania Plipasec of course, refused to do what the Prime
• 35:00
  Speaker 14: Minister wanted her to do, and that was to just
• 35:03
  Speaker 14: sign off on the industry. She was being in transigen
• 35:06
  Speaker 14: so he had to legislate around her. So if they
• 35:10
  Speaker 14: win this election, and chances are they'd be doing it
• 35:12
  Speaker 14: with the support of the Greens, there is no hope
• 35:15
  Speaker 14: that these laws would survive and that the industry would
• 35:17
  Speaker 14: continue to operate there. It would be a death knell
• 35:20
  Speaker 14: for this industry and for five thousand jobs across the
• 35:23
  Speaker 14: state of Tasmania.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: What is it about tasi im I love Tasmania, but
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: whenever we have a federal election, there's always an issue,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: normally around environment that plays out in the Tasmanian election.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, if it's not wood chipping and timber farming
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: or damning the Gordon River, I mean every election we
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: have one of these, don't we.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, we do.
• 35:53
  Speaker 14: We are the birthplace, sadly of the Australian Green movement
• 35:56
  Speaker 14: and party, and so I do apologize for that. But
• 36:00
  Speaker 14: I suppose the reason it happens here is it is
• 36:03
  Speaker 14: a beautiful tool for garnering votes in Sydney and Melbourne.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: All of these people.
• 36:07
  Speaker 14: Who live so far removed from the impacts of decisions
• 36:11
  Speaker 14: of shutting down industries like forestry, salmon, or stopping hydro projects,
• 36:17
  Speaker 14: you know, that renewable energy source that we could do
• 36:19
  Speaker 14: with a lot more of if you're to follow the
• 36:22
  Speaker 14: Labor green ideological agenda.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I mean it's great too if.
• 36:26
  Speaker 14: You live in one of these inner city Sydney suburbs,
• 36:29
  Speaker 14: say yes, we should shut down the salmon industry and
• 36:32
  Speaker 14: it'll make.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Me feel better. Well, they live so far removed.
• 36:36
  Speaker 14: We're over the horizon and it's great to be able
• 36:39
  Speaker 14: to do that from afar. That's why these things happen here,
• 36:41
  Speaker 14: and that's what the Greens are about. So that's my explanation.
• 36:45
  Speaker 14: We're just a little experiment, little guinea pig for the
• 36:49
  Speaker 14: rest of the country to run their little experiments on.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: No, you're not, You're gorgeous. Just finally and quickly, can
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: you pick up seat set?
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I look absolutely. It is a tough gig.
• 37:03
  Speaker 14: We will hang on to the seat of Braden, where
• 37:05
  Speaker 14: we've got a retiring, very good member Gavin Pierce and
• 37:07
  Speaker 14: a new candidate, Malhinston.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: We will hang on to that. We'll hang on to Bass.
• 37:11
  Speaker 14: I am still confident, even though Labor are throwing everything
• 37:14
  Speaker 14: at the seat of lions. We will be able to
• 37:16
  Speaker 14: ensure voters know if you vote for the labor candidate,
• 37:19
  Speaker 14: you're going to get albow, You're going to get the
• 37:21
  Speaker 14: salmon industry shut down, and that's why they have.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: To vote liberal. So we will pick up lines as well.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Good on you, Johnah, good luck. I'll talk to you
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: over the journey of the next five weeks. John o'dunnham
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: there in tazzy. Now, just for the break, the Herald
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Suner is reporting a pilot has miraculously survived after crashing
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: at the Avalon Air Show, which is on at Avalon
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: this weekend while he was performing aerial tricks. Ambulance Victoria
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: have released a statement saying the patient is in quote
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: a serious condition. So coming up after the break, we'll
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: dive into some of the top election issues for voters,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: including small business owners with our panel, plus the PM's
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: campaigning ability is under scrutiny. The panel is up next.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Let's bring in our panel tonight on Friday night. Small
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Business Women Australia CEO Amanda Rose joins us every Friday night.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: It's a great pleasure to have her and Sky News
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: contributor and News Limited video star for the election campaign
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Joe Hildebrand, woy you were here hard my friend.
• 38:25
  Speaker 11: Look, I didn't know how that sentence was going to end.
• 38:28
  Speaker 11: But yes, I've never worked harder in my life and
• 38:30
  Speaker 11: it's only day one.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, we got five weeks to go, Amanda, I'm so
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: glad you're here. What does small business need out of
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: both sides at this election to make small business vote
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: for them?
• 38:45
  Speaker 15: Well, the number one issue for small business is energy costs.
• 38:49
  Speaker 15: So if you can reduce it from a thirty percent
• 38:52
  Speaker 15: increase down to back to where it was before, they
• 38:56
  Speaker 15: can at least pay their staff and pay themselves.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: We know that thirty.
• 38:59
  Speaker 15: Percent of small business owners aren't even paying themselves and
• 39:02
  Speaker 15: they've got families to look after. So energy is number one.
• 39:05
  Speaker 15: The second is actually supply costs. So if there can
• 39:08
  Speaker 15: be some incentive in some form for people to actually
• 39:11
  Speaker 15: visit their small business. I know they're trying to get
• 39:13
  Speaker 15: people to come back into the workplace seeing the CBD
• 39:16
  Speaker 15: so they can spend at cafes, but they actually need
• 39:19
  Speaker 15: to incentivize people to visit and have like a voucher
• 39:22
  Speaker 15: of some form. So you know a company wants to
• 39:24
  Speaker 15: get you back into the office.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Well, here's a win win.
• 39:26
  Speaker 15: We'll give you a voucher to go the local cafe
• 39:29
  Speaker 15: to actually spend it there because they're shutting down at
• 39:32
  Speaker 15: a rapid pace and no one really will fill the
• 39:34
  Speaker 15: pinch of this until they realize how unemployment is going up,
• 39:38
  Speaker 15: because don't forget, small businesses employee forty percent of the
• 39:41
  Speaker 15: private sector, and so they're starting to drop off and
• 39:45
  Speaker 15: the government's been rapidly hiring people to skew the numbers,
• 39:48
  Speaker 15: but we're starting to see with all the shops being
• 39:50
  Speaker 15: shut that they're suffering.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Joe, the Coalition was always seen as the party of
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: small business?
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: Is it still?
• 40:00
  Speaker 11: Look it's a really interesting one. Like we've seen in
• 40:02
  Speaker 11: the US, we've seen in Australia the two parties kind
• 40:06
  Speaker 11: of in way do a bit of a role reversal.
• 40:08
  Speaker 11: We've seen them.
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: Just in the last week.
• 40:10
  Speaker 11: Peter Dutton came out and opposed personal tax cuts after wholeheartedly,
• 40:17
  Speaker 11: full throatedly throwing eight and a half billion dollars at medicare.
• 40:21
  Speaker 11: So if someone had said which party opposed the tax
• 40:24
  Speaker 11: cuts so they could throw money at medicare, you wouldn't
• 40:27
  Speaker 11: have thought it was the Coalition. He has done. I
• 40:30
  Speaker 11: mean the tax cuts for people going out and having
• 40:32
  Speaker 11: a work lunch, I think is obviously something that's directed
• 40:36
  Speaker 11: towards small businesses in the hospitality sector. Sadly it doesn't
• 40:40
  Speaker 11: include booze, so I won't be going. But look, I
• 40:44
  Speaker 11: think both parties are playing very small targets and there'll
• 40:46
  Speaker 11: be a lot of people I think, pretty disappointed at
• 40:49
  Speaker 11: what's going off of Yeah, I.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Want to get both of your view in a moment
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: about you know what the voting public make of the
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: two leaders having a crack at each other every election.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: But this looks like it's shaping up to me to
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: be a little more vicious than normal. First, let's have
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: a look at the first campaign ad. This was dropped
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: moments after the Prime Minister announced the election from his
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: courtyard this morning. This is a liberal campaign ad.
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: We live in the best country in the world right now,
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: it's at a turning point.
• 41:34
  Speaker 9: Too many are.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: Having to make sacrifices just to afford the weekly shop
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: and pay their bills. This election is a choice about
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: who can help Australians get ahead by managing our economy better.
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: Australia can't afford to continue on its current path. Let's
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: get our country back on track.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Work for you, Amanda.
• 41:53
  Speaker 15: Look, it's not hard to convince the people that there's
• 41:56
  Speaker 15: a better option. I mean, labor has driven the economy
• 41:59
  Speaker 15: into the ground and people are absolutely suffering from all
• 42:02
  Speaker 15: walks of life.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: You can't throw.
• 42:04
  Speaker 15: Money at welfare and unions and expect people to say great,
• 42:08
  Speaker 15: the economies you know doing well.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: It's not.
• 42:10
  Speaker 15: People are suffering. So I think the Coali shouldn't have
• 42:13
  Speaker 15: a chance here because they're coming across as a strong leader.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: That got structure.
• 42:18
  Speaker 15: Yes, I feel that they could actually do more, so
• 42:20
  Speaker 15: hopefully over the week so announce more, especially for small
• 42:23
  Speaker 15: business and women owned business. But in general they're coming
• 42:25
  Speaker 15: across with you know, I'm the grown up. We're actually
• 42:28
  Speaker 15: good economic managers and history tells us that they are.
• 42:31
  Speaker 15: So I think they've got a chance in this space,
• 42:33
  Speaker 15: and labor blew it. I have to they really did
• 42:35
  Speaker 15: blow it, because you can't promise everything, win an election
• 42:39
  Speaker 15: and then do nothing for three years that's actually going
• 42:42
  Speaker 15: to help people the economy and small business.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Joe the PM just happened to have his Medicare card
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: in his insight jacket when he got up this morning
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: to announce the election, just pure biaction. And I suppose
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: you can see where the Labor campaign's going to go
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: to be negative against Peter Dutton, colling him the cutter,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: that he's going to set public servants, he's going to
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: tear apart Medicare. Does that work with the voting public?
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Will they believe it?
• 43:11
  Speaker 9: Well?
• 43:11
  Speaker 11: I think obviously we saw in twenty sixteen that the
• 43:13
  Speaker 11: medi scare campaign did work. It was incredibly effective and
• 43:16
  Speaker 11: nearly unseated the Coalition government after their first term in power,
• 43:21
  Speaker 11: and Malcolm Turnbull almost conceded defeat on election night before
• 43:25
  Speaker 11: just scraping home. I didn't like that particularly. I have
• 43:29
  Speaker 11: to say I think there should be some There has
• 43:31
  Speaker 11: to be some honesty in politics, otherwise we might as
• 43:35
  Speaker 11: well just all go home and say there are no
• 43:37
  Speaker 11: rules and you know, just pull out amachetes. But I
• 43:40
  Speaker 11: think what Labour has done this time around is actually
• 43:42
  Speaker 11: much more clever. For example, you know, it has forced
• 43:46
  Speaker 11: Peter Dutton and the Coalition to match its eight point
• 43:49
  Speaker 11: five billion dollar Medicare pledge, which might kind of neutralize
• 43:53
  Speaker 11: it as an election issue because they can't say, well,
• 43:55
  Speaker 11: he's not going to put his money in, therefore he
• 43:57
  Speaker 11: wants to kill Medicare, but it also puts Peter Dutton
• 44:00
  Speaker 11: on the back foot, and it means that he is
• 44:03
  Speaker 11: responding to labor, and it's labor that is laying out
• 44:06
  Speaker 11: the parameters, the labor that is setting the battlefield, and
• 44:10
  Speaker 11: that I think has happened on Medicare. It's happened, oddly enough,
• 44:13
  Speaker 11: on power bills where he ran to match the rebates,
• 44:16
  Speaker 11: and it's happened on tax as well. Those surprise tax cuts,
• 44:19
  Speaker 11: however modest they were in the budget, Peter Dutton's and
• 44:23
  Speaker 11: very canny, by the way, very canny planned to cut
• 44:26
  Speaker 11: petrol tax in half, is very much seen as a
• 44:29
  Speaker 11: response to Labour's tax cuts. And so again it's labor
• 44:33
  Speaker 11: leading from the front and Peter Dutton catching up, and
• 44:37
  Speaker 11: not Peter Dutton being out in front, setting the agenda
• 44:39
  Speaker 11: and determining what we're talking about.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Amanda. A lot of small business people are not happy
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: with either side of politics, and me, I'm not happy
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: with labor because they promised their energy bills would be
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: lower and they haven't been. I'm not sure that a
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: lot of small business have got a great deal of
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: confidence that things are going to get better. The Prime
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: minister incredibly stood up there today and said, you know,
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: we've turned a corner. I don't know what car he's driving,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: but I don't see any corner that we've turned to
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: make things better. So a lot of these people that
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: you represent maybe tempted to go independent to either maybe
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson's One Nation. I don't know too many people
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: are going to vote for Clive Palmer's trumpet of patriots
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: because no one really understands what that is. But there's
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: other community independence tials, et cetera. It looks like the
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: vote's going to really shatter this time.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I believe. What do you think now?
• 45:32
  Speaker 14: I agree?
• 45:33
  Speaker 15: So often people will vote for independence, and that's what
• 45:36
  Speaker 15: we've got a rise of independence, right is because people
• 45:38
  Speaker 15: are starting to get annoyed with the two major parties
• 45:41
  Speaker 15: and whether they actually agree with say a minor party
• 45:45
  Speaker 15: or an independent, sometimes they just don't care. They're just
• 45:47
  Speaker 15: so angry that they're suffering, so they will vote somewhere else.
• 45:51
  Speaker 15: So I think that's going to be a big issue
• 45:54
  Speaker 15: with his campaign, so label probably you know, any preferences
• 45:57
  Speaker 15: from the Greens and the Corlas said they're not going
• 45:59
  Speaker 15: to work with the tills and I think they need
• 46:02
  Speaker 15: to listen to why people are voting independent and for
• 46:06
  Speaker 15: the smaller parties. Right, So with the Independencay with a
• 46:09
  Speaker 15: legal respender, she's very passionate about small business and tax
• 46:12
  Speaker 15: reform and she's get set serious about this. And so
• 46:15
  Speaker 15: pay attention to what they're saying because it's the community
• 46:18
  Speaker 15: telling them saying this is what we need. So they're
• 46:21
  Speaker 15: not the devil.
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: They're not, you know, the enemy.
• 46:23
  Speaker 15: They're actually representing their community and you should listen to them.
• 46:26
  Speaker 15: And I think the two major parties you know, too
• 46:29
  Speaker 15: determined to think they're the best choice without having to
• 46:32
  Speaker 15: listen to anyone else.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Just before we go, I really want to play this
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: for you too. I see this as some sort of
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: metaphor for the election. Right, So we've got I found
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: this in an odd place in the National Basketball Associate
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: the NBA in America. We've got an Australian star basketballer
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: called Josh Giddy. Right, have a look at wash Josh Giddy,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: playing for the Chicago Bulls did in the last three
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: seconds of a game overnight.
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of turnouts two seconds.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Absolutely unbelievable. He did that over the top of one
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: of the best defenders in the world in Lebron James.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: What is What I think this says is that somebody
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Joe in the last week of the election, has to
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: throw a haymaker and really take a risk and win
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: this election.
• 47:35
  Speaker 15: What do you think?
• 47:36
  Speaker 11: Yeah, look, I think I mean it's great for us
• 47:38
  Speaker 11: to be able to watch and see those big things
• 47:40
  Speaker 11: come through. I think this is a country that is
• 47:42
  Speaker 11: crying out for reform, crying out for vision. The problem
• 47:45
  Speaker 11: is that when you roll out those things, often more
• 47:48
  Speaker 11: timid voters run a thousand miles from them. But that
• 47:51
  Speaker 11: goal from Josh Giddy is just incredible. I haven't seen
• 47:53
  Speaker 11: athleticism like that since I was playing back pocket for
• 47:56
  Speaker 11: the Danny.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Long Red Legs.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Amanda. Someone's got to take a big risk in this campaign.
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: Just briefly, Yes, they do.
• 48:05
  Speaker 15: And I think the Labor Party or even the Coalition
• 48:07
  Speaker 15: need to hire that young man because he looks like
• 48:09
  Speaker 15: he's doing a better job at winning.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be a fact. It's going to
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: be a fascinating campaign, Joe. I look forward to seeing
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: your video updates in the news limited papers, Amanda. We'll
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: keep talking small business and we'll make sure that we
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: get small business noticed on the program every Friday. Thank
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: you both. That's Amanda and Joe. Well, it's five weeks
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: until election day, five weeks in one day. The fight's
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: certainly on and the Prime Minister is currently in Brisbane.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: He flew to Queensland straight away because I think he
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: thinks those three seats up there are gettable.
• 48:42
  Speaker 7: That's it for me.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Coming up next, Rowan Dean, The Wonderful World of Rowan Dean,