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The Kenny Report | 16 September · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Laura from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to another week on the Kenny Report. Tonight, another
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Speaker 2: assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
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Speaker 3: This one is thwarted. But who do you reckon? The
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Speaker 3: left tries to blame yep, the victim.
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Speaker 2: I'll show you more word salads from Kamala Harris too.
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Speaker 2: We know Joe Biden's excuse what's hers? And the taxpayer
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Speaker 2: funded broadcaster, the ABC caught out red handed with dodgy
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Speaker 2: editing tricks and misleading stories trying to malign our diggers
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Speaker 2: as murderers.
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Speaker 3: Just shocking stuff.
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Speaker 2: I'll catch up with the former AFL champion now running.
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Speaker 3: For Lord Mayor in Melbourne.
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Speaker 2: Also more good polling news for the coalition, terrific Panels,
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Speaker 2: Sophie Elsworth, media news and plenty more.
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Speaker 3: Let's get into it.
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Speaker 2: Let me start with the ABC, the public broadcaster you
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Speaker 2: pay for, the broadcasting and digital media bayamoth that gets
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Speaker 2: about one point two billion dollars of taxpayers money every year,
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Speaker 2: and as I've shown you time and again, they often
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Speaker 2: misused that money to run biased, misleading and ideological nonsense.
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Speaker 2: While they've been caught out badly this time it relates
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Speaker 2: to stories they ran accusing our soldiers of war crimes,
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Speaker 2: accusing our soldiers, our soldiers of executing unarmed civilians just
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Speaker 2: to make room on a helicopter, an erroneous story that's
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Speaker 2: already cost taxpayers four hundred thousand dollars in the ABC's
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Speaker 2: defamation payout to former Commando Heston Russell. The cost of
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Speaker 2: taxpayers was reportedly three million dollars when you include all
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Speaker 2: the legal costs. But it gets worse for the ABC
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Speaker 2: because Heston Russell has been determined to expose the truth
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Speaker 2: and he went a long way towards doing that last
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Speaker 2: night on Channel seven Spotlight program, have a look at
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Speaker 2: the incredible helmet cam footage from Afghanistan in twenty twelve,
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Speaker 2: and it's explained in this footage by Heston Russell.
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Speaker 4: So we've maintained positive identification of him both directly and
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Speaker 4: with drones in the sky running down this alleyway, and
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Speaker 4: a tactic we'd employed a great success is firing a
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Speaker 4: warning shot in the vicinity of someone to make them
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Speaker 4: stop freeze, put their hands up.
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Speaker 1: Essentially, why did he fire a warning shot if he'd
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Speaker 1: been shooting at BUSSI troops Five minutes before. Why didn't
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Speaker 1: he just try and kill him?
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Speaker 4: Well, look, the majority of our missions derive their greatest
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Speaker 4: value from capturing insurgents. After the warning shot, this insurgent
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Speaker 4: has run into a compound and the drone has witnessed
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Speaker 4: him bend over and.
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Speaker 5: Pick up something. He's picked up something.
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Speaker 4: That looks like a weapon, and you'll hear me telling
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Speaker 4: my soldier shoot him, shoot him. We listen closely, you'll
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Speaker 4: hear that. Then you'll see that's the footage of my
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Speaker 4: guy shooting at him in the compound. The US doll
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Speaker 4: gunner sees him and points to him, and we're circling around,
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Speaker 4: and you'll see the yellow smoke that he dropped to
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Speaker 4: mark the target now here. My signaler sees him, sees
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Speaker 4: his unarmed, and instead of shooting after I've already authorized
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Speaker 4: him to fire, actually tells him to stop and.
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Speaker 5: Get down and watch this.
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Speaker 4: The American door gunner, he says, what are you doing,
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Speaker 4: knowing full well that I've authorized him to kill him.
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Speaker 4: My soldier could have got a kill up, could have
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Speaker 4: got a notch on his belt. But I said, my
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Speaker 4: soldier made the decision to save a life because knowing
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Speaker 4: we're going to land and go and try and capture
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Speaker 4: this guy.
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Speaker 3: Just incredible stuff, isn't it.
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Speaker 2: And that's what was going on according to Heston Russell,
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Speaker 2: who was there, and according to the footage which bears it.
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Speaker 3: All out, it makes you proud of our troops rather
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Speaker 3: than maligning them.
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Speaker 2: But the ABC wrongly claimed in its reporting that it
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Speaker 2: was Russell who was firing those shots, and that he
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Speaker 2: was shooting unarmed civilians, and it even re edited and
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Speaker 2: dockted the footage to include extra shots where there was
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Speaker 2: a solitary warning shot.
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Speaker 1: Have a look revealing an astonishing difference between the source
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Speaker 1: vision and the version of events told by the ABC's
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Speaker 1: Mark Willison, which starts with six rounds of firing, then
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Speaker 1: the single warning shot becomes six.
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Speaker 5: To me, it appears some of these things they literally
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Speaker 5: added extra gun shots. That's phenomenon. So I fell off
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Speaker 5: my chair when I saw this.
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Speaker 3: Just unforgivable, wasn't it.
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Speaker 2: They had audio experts confirm that's what happened.
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Speaker 3: The ABC has.
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Speaker 2: Now pulled down those online reports and it claims the
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Speaker 2: journalist involved might not have known about the doctored audio.
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Speaker 2: What on earth is going on here? And remember what
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Speaker 2: Russell won his defamation case. The ABC failed in its
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Speaker 2: truth defense. Yet this is what the ABC managing director said, Santa.
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Speaker 6: If you're asking for me to apologize to mister Russell,
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Speaker 6: I'm not going to apologize to mister Russell.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he said back then.
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Speaker 2: Look, this so called reporting appears to be an absolute disgrace,
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Speaker 2: where once more the ABC is keen to attack our
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Speaker 2: military and besmirch our country rather than just tell us
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Speaker 2: the facts. Heston Russell and Channel seven showed how other
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Speaker 2: evidence in these reports was either ignored or exaggerated to
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Speaker 2: fit in with the ABC narrative. It's worth watching the
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Speaker 2: entire spotlight special if you can get it online. There
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Speaker 2: needs to be a detailed investigation of the ABC's so
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Speaker 2: called investigative reporting in this case. And as I keep saying,
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Speaker 2: it's been clear for many, many years now, there is
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Speaker 2: no one in charge at the ABC. It's a staff
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Speaker 2: run collective and the staff's ideological and political leanings are
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Speaker 2: allowed to run rampant, which is a clear breach of
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Speaker 2: their charter and their ethical responsibility to taxpayers. Well done
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Speaker 2: to Heston Russell for clearing his name for his service
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Speaker 2: before that, of course, and for defending his fellow diggers
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Speaker 2: and for holding the ABC to account. Yeah, I think
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Speaker 2: Hessen will be on with Andrew bolt tonight, So stick
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Speaker 2: around and have a look at that. Now to the
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Speaker 2: US and that disturbing news of another assassination attempt on
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump. This one thwarted, thankfully, but unthinkable really that
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Speaker 2: a bloke with an assault rifle could get to within
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Speaker 2: a few hundred meters of the former president on his
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Speaker 2: golf course. Police recovered an AK forty seven style rifle,
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Speaker 2: a scope, a go pro and some other equipment and
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Speaker 2: later arrested the suspect, named as fifty eight year old
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Speaker 2: Ryan Routh. There was no shot fired at Trump, although
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Speaker 2: agents fired at Ralph before he fled in a car.
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Speaker 2: Security for Trump has now been increased, and it will
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Speaker 2: be increased in an ongoing fashion.
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Speaker 3: Now, just how this was allowed to happen.
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Speaker 2: After Trump was shot in the year just two months
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Speaker 2: ago is astonishing. Security was increased then, but now has
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Speaker 2: to be beefed up again now Incredibly, well, actually I
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Speaker 2: suppose not so incredibly as we've come to expect. Some
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Speaker 2: American media were effective blaming Trump for the attack on him.
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Speaker 2: The same sort of victim blaming we heard last time.
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Speaker 7: Do you expect to hear anything from the Trump campaign
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Speaker 7: about toning down the rhetoric, toning down the violence, or.
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Speaker 5: Would that be a typical of the former president.
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Speaker 7: Well, Alex, remember back to the assassination attempt on President
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Speaker 7: Trump's life, and how you know there was talk of
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Speaker 7: a new tone, and then the Republican Convention was, by
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Speaker 7: Trumpian standards, muted, and it did seem like he was,
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Speaker 7: you know, just trying to take it down a few notches.
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Speaker 7: But then by the end of his convention speech, you know,
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Speaker 7: we were kind of back to where we started.
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Speaker 2: Just done real, isn't it. It's always about those horrible Republicans. Now,
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Speaker 2: US politics is polarized, divisive politics in a country armed
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Speaker 2: to its teeth. We all know that's a volatile mix,
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Speaker 2: and nobody's political words should see them blame for violence, unless,
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Speaker 2: of course, they're inciting violence. The blame lies with the
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Speaker 2: violent perpetrators themselves. But as I've said many times here,
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Speaker 2: while we all know how brash and aggressive Trump can be,
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Speaker 2: and how he claims he was robbed at the last election,
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Speaker 2: that doesn't mean the Democrats should get to run them
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Speaker 2: up with their divisive.
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Speaker 3: Language with impunity.
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Speaker 2: As we keep showing you, their demonization of Trump is
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Speaker 2: perhaps the most divisive angle of them all.
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Speaker 8: We must be clear democracies are the ballad.
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Speaker 9: They know Trump won't hold autocrats accountable because he wants
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Speaker 9: to be an autocrat himself. And as president, I will
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Speaker 9: never waver in defense of America's security and ideals because
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Speaker 9: in the enduring struggle between democracy and tyranny, I know
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Speaker 9: where I stand.
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Speaker 3: There's something dangerous happen in America.
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Speaker 8: There's an extremist movement does not share the basic policefs
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Speaker 8: in our democracy.
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Speaker 3: Democracy is on the ballot this year.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is anti democratic itself, isn't it to argue
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Speaker 2: that a vote for your opponent is a vote against democracy.
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Speaker 3: It's absurd in a way too, but sinister as.
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Speaker 2: Well because it raises the stakes to an inflammatory level.
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Speaker 2: And when you go to the social media accounts of
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Speaker 2: this alleged would be assassin, there's that same language repeated,
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Speaker 2: democracy is on the ballot. We cannot lose again. It's
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Speaker 2: the violent who are to blame, not the politicians. But
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Speaker 2: if politicians promise to lower the temperature, then that's what
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Speaker 2: they should do.
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Speaker 3: After this drama, unfolded.
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump tweeted that he was fine, and both President
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Speaker 2: Biden and Vice President Harris tweeted their concerns too. There'll
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Speaker 2: be more full out on this tomorrow, no doubt. It's
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Speaker 2: deep in the night in the US now. While US
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Speaker 2: politics is ugly and dangerously so, it seems it's counterproductive
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Speaker 2: to lay this all at the feet of Trump and
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Speaker 2: the Republicans. The Democrats keep saying they want to bring
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Speaker 2: the country together, and then in the same breath they
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Speaker 2: demonize their opponent in flaming division.
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Speaker 3: They love to talk the talk. It's got to be
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Speaker 3: time to walk the walk.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of Kamala Harris, I want to show you some
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Speaker 2: of her first solo television interviews since Joe Biden announced
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Speaker 2: he wasn't running and Harris would.
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Speaker 3: It was another soft one.
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Speaker 2: On one interview with a Philadelphia ABC affiliate, and it
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Speaker 2: went for about eleven minutes, and I was struck by
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Speaker 2: the first question and answer about the economy and the
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Speaker 2: cost of living.
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Speaker 3: When we talk about bringing down prices and making life
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Speaker 3: more affordable for people, what a one or two specific
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Speaker 3: things you have in mind for that.
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Speaker 10: Well, I'll start with this. I grew up a middle
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Speaker 10: class kid. My mother raised my sister and me. She
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Speaker 10: worked very hard.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go.
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Speaker 2: Forget the question and any specific she just get the
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Speaker 2: same old folksy homespun line.
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Speaker 3: And it sounded kind of familiar, didn't it. Yep. The
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Speaker 3: first question of the debate when it.
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Speaker 8: Comes to the economy, do you believe Americans are better
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Speaker 8: off than they were four years ago?
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Speaker 10: So I was raised as a middle class kid, and
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Speaker 10: I am actually the only person on this stage who
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Speaker 10: has a plan that is about lifting up the middle
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Speaker 10: class and working people of America.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no answer to the question, just the same scripted
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Speaker 2: folks see line. Yeah, Harris is a heartbeat away from
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Speaker 2: the Ivor office now and she wants to be elected
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Speaker 2: as the leader of the free world. Yet she's actually
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Speaker 2: got nothing to say. Listen to some more about her
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Speaker 2: plans for America.
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Speaker 10: So, for example, thinking about developing and creating an opportunity
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Speaker 10: economy where it's about investing in areas that really need
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Speaker 10: a lot of work, and maybe focusing on again the
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Speaker 10: aspirations and the dreams, but also just recognizing that at
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Speaker 10: this moment in time, some of the stuff we could
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Speaker 10: take for granted years ago, we can't take for granted anymore.
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Speaker 2: Maybe focusing on the aspirations and the dreams in this
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Speaker 2: moment in time. I mean, what lots of words in
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Speaker 2: search of meaning or substance, and on and on it goes.
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Speaker 10: My approach is about new ideas, new policies that are
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Speaker 10: directed at the current moment. And also, to be very
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Speaker 10: honest with you, my focus is very much in what
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Speaker 10: we need to do over the next ten twenty years
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Speaker 10: to catch up to the twenty first century around again capacity,
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Speaker 10: but also challenges.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about this moment and it's about the future
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Speaker 2: this century. I mean, it seems incredible that Harris expects
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Speaker 2: to be elected president while offering only these words salads.
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Speaker 2: But clearly this is what her advises want her to do.
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Speaker 2: This is the strategy they believe it can work. It
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Speaker 2: might have a listened to Kamlo Harris on the divisive
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Speaker 2: nature of politics.
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Speaker 10: I based on experience and a lived experience. No, in
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Speaker 10: my heart, I know, in my soul, I know that
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Speaker 10: the vast majority of us as Americans, have so much
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Speaker 10: more in common. And what separates us.
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Speaker 3: In her heart and in her soul and her soul
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Speaker 3: is up here.
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Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be nice just occasionally to engage the mind.
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Speaker 2: Don't we need to see some proper debates and some
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Speaker 2: interviews containing some substance and some detail.
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Speaker 3: Don't hold your breath back.
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Speaker 2: In Australia, the polling trend remains the friend for Peter
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Speaker 2: Dutton and the Coalition.
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Speaker 3: The latest polling has dotteon increasing his lead.
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Speaker 2: Now I tend to use the Australian's News poll as
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Speaker 2: my guide. It's the pole with the best track record
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Speaker 2: and the one that most political operatives take the most
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Speaker 2: notice of, well aside from their internal polling. And don't
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Speaker 2: forget this boast from Albow when it comes to news poll.
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Speaker 11: We haven't lost a news pole since I've been Prime minister.
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Speaker 11: We haven't lost a news pole since I've been Prime minister.
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Speaker 2: Well, he's been dead level a couple of times on
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Speaker 2: news posts, so newspole, So we shall see. But today's
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Speaker 2: fresh water strategy pole has Dutton and the Coalition leading
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Speaker 2: fifty two to forty eight on a two party preferred basis,
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Speaker 2: and that stems from an abysmal thirty percent primary vote
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Speaker 2: for Labor. They're very encouraging forty two percent for the
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Speaker 2: Coalition and if you look at this graph of the
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Speaker 2: average of the poles, you can see a clear direction
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Speaker 2: downwards for Labor and the alban Easy government. Now there's
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Speaker 2: lots of water to flow under the bridge and on
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Speaker 2: to see the next news poll. But while the till
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Speaker 2: seats make it all harder for the coalition, there's no
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Speaker 2: doubt about that it's way too early to be talking
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Speaker 2: about a labor minority government this or a liberal minority government.
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Speaker 2: That voters are dropping off labor big time, and that
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Speaker 2: trend might only get worse as the cost of living crisis,
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Speaker 2: the energy shambles and national security weakness mounts, and voters
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Speaker 2: contemplate too how much worse it could get if Labor
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Speaker 2: and the Greens are left in charge for another term.
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Speaker 2: Mainstream Australia will be given a real choice at this election.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to Camber now and catch up with Liberal
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Speaker 2: Senator Dave Shama. Thanks for joining us, Dave. The Senate
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Speaker 2: sitting today, of course, and not the House. You must
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Speaker 2: be encouraged by the trend in these polls.
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Speaker 12: Oh I was spent the weekend at some of the
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Speaker 12: local government elections that were happening in New South Wales.
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Speaker 12: Christ I was encouraged by the comments I heard from
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Speaker 12: voters at the polling booths. You know, there was I
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Speaker 12: think a lot of frustration with labor and their lack
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Speaker 12: of an economic agenda. There was also a lot of
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Speaker 12: dislike for the Greens and the Independence for their working
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Speaker 12: undermining social cohesion in Australia, and I think there was
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Speaker 12: a lot of support for liberals. So now that's the
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Speaker 12: feedback I take most seriously. Look the poles, as you know,
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Speaker 12: that volatile, they move around. But if we focus on
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Speaker 12: holding labor to account presenting a credible alternative, I think
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Speaker 12: will be in a good position.
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Speaker 2: We're talking about presenting that credible alternative. There are reports
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Speaker 2: that some of your colleagues are pushing Peter Dutton and
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Speaker 2: the Shadow Cabinet to take further tax cuts to the election,
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Speaker 2: perhaps those tax cuts for the high income earners that
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Speaker 2: labor got rid of in the Stage three tax cuts.
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Speaker 2: Can you confirm those discussions are happening and do you
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Speaker 2: think that would be a good idea?
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Speaker 12: Well, I think we'll certainly be unveiling our own approach
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Speaker 12: to taxes before the election, and you know, I'm personally
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Speaker 12: committed to seeing a tax system that is simpler fairer
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Speaker 12: and lower as well, because I think you know, what
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Speaker 12: we've seen in particularly the past two years of the
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Speaker 12: Albanezy government is people on seeing they're basically they're purchasing
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Speaker 12: power roaded because higher nominal incomes have pushed them into
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Speaker 12: much higher tax brackets than they should be, and they're
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Speaker 12: losing a huge amount of money to income tax, paying
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Speaker 12: a lot more than they would have otherwise. So you know,
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Speaker 12: we had a proposal, as you know, to basically have
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Speaker 12: the top rate only kicking above two hundred thousand dollars
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Speaker 12: and have the ninety five percent of tax payers paying
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Speaker 12: no more than thirty cents in the dollar. Now, you know,
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Speaker 12: I appreciate that labor has changed that, and we would
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Speaker 12: to unscramble that egg now is difficult, but I think
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Speaker 12: we do need to be taking our alternative tax plan
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Speaker 12: to the electorate and that will be unveiled. It would
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Speaker 12: be fair your time before the election.
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Speaker 2: If you went back to that model, I would make
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Speaker 2: it fairer, simpler and lower, he would.
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Speaker 3: But it would.
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Speaker 12: But I'm more so conscious that labors change that now,
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Speaker 12: and we're going to have to look at exactly what
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Speaker 12: the balance sheet looks like, what our fiscal commitments are
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Speaker 12: what are the pressures on the budget?
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Speaker 3: And it would be irresponsible.
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Speaker 12: Look, certainly for me, but I think even for US
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Speaker 12: as a party to do that before an election is called.
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Speaker 2: All right, I want to get your thoughts on what's
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Speaker 2: unfolded in the US with this other assassination plot foiled
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Speaker 2: against Donald Trump.
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Speaker 3: Here's what Anthony Alberaneze he had to say today.
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Speaker 11: Everyone wants the democratic process to be peaceful and to
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Speaker 11: be orderly. This incident in the United States is of concern.
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Speaker 7: Again.
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Speaker 2: Now everyone knows you were a former ambassador in Israel, Dave,
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Speaker 2: but you also served as a diplomat in Washington. Are
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Speaker 2: you surprised at the level of security that was around
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump. We're effectively the secret surface. We're just scouting
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Speaker 2: one hole ahead as he did his round of golf.
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Speaker 12: Look, I'm shocked and and pretty abhorred that there's been
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Speaker 12: another attempt on the life of one of the two
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Speaker 12: presidential candidates. You know, this is what like two in
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Speaker 12: two months, right, I mean, it's pretty troubling because obviously
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Speaker 12: if any of these attempts, you know, it was a
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Speaker 12: very narrowly run thing that Trump was not seriously injured
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Speaker 12: or worse as a result of the assassination attempt on
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Speaker 12: him the previous one. The fact that people seem to
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Speaker 12: becoming as close as they are to him, and the
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Speaker 12: sort of political turmoil rightly that that would unleash in
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Speaker 12: the United States is almost beyond thinking about. So, you know,
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Speaker 12: I would hope that the Secret Service, the domestic intelligence
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Speaker 12: agencies are doing everything they can to make sure that
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Speaker 12: doesn't happen. And I'm a little concerned that again, this
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Speaker 12: seems some sort of you know, lone wolf type actor
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Speaker 12: seems to have come as close as he has to
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Speaker 12: one of the candidates for the presidency.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is frightening stuff and as you say, the
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Speaker 2: consequences would be unthinkable. Thanks so much for joining us, Dave,
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Speaker 2: appreciate it. Dave Shima, Liberal Senator for New South Wales.
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Speaker 2: They're live from Canberra, the Center. They're sitting this week the.
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Speaker 3: House not I want to go back to local politics now.
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Speaker 2: We mentioned that there are local government elections in New
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Speaker 2: South Wales today on the weekend, but they're upcoming next
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Speaker 2: month in Victoria, and I want to talk about the
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Speaker 2: race for the Melbourne Lord Mayor's job, currently held by
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Speaker 2: Nicholas Reese labor Man as you all know. Sky newsviewers
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Speaker 2: know him very well. But he's up against a challenger
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Speaker 2: in Anthony Coude, Fini's former Carlton champion, and he joins
21:36
Speaker 2: me live from Melbourne. Anthony, thanks for joining us. Great
21:39
Speaker 2: to talk to you. I'm fascinated. I know as a
21:42
Speaker 2: footy fan, long suffering at Laigh Crow's fan, I know
21:46
Speaker 2: a lot about your footy history. I admired you greatly
21:49
Speaker 2: as a player. I know you have a business in
21:52
Speaker 2: the fitness industry and run a jim as well. What's
21:54
Speaker 2: motivated you to get into local politics and run for
21:58
Speaker 2: the Lord Bear.
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Speaker 13: It's a great question, Chris, thanks so much for having
22:02
Speaker 13: me on. I appreciate it.
22:04
Speaker 3: I look I look back at myself.
22:05
Speaker 13: And thinking I had my grandparents born here in this
22:07
Speaker 13: most incredible city, and my dream as a young kid
22:10
Speaker 13: was either to represent austraight the Olympics or play VFL
22:13
Speaker 13: fully back then, which then turned into AFL and I
22:16
Speaker 13: got to leave my dream. But I spent so many
22:18
Speaker 13: wonderful days and times in the city of Melbourne and
22:23
Speaker 13: just to think if I can have some sort of
22:24
Speaker 13: impact in a positive way to leave Melbourne in a
22:26
Speaker 13: better place. If I get that opportunity would be incredible.
22:30
Speaker 13: And yeah, so the city to me means so much
22:32
Speaker 13: and when I think of my relatives and everyone that
22:35
Speaker 13: have come here to see me, I was so proud
22:37
Speaker 13: of the city and so if I can have some
22:39
Speaker 13: sort of impact, I'd be thrilled.
22:40
Speaker 2: Well, your running mates are gladyslou the controversial former Liberal
22:44
Speaker 2: MP and also property developer in Jack Kahn.
22:47
Speaker 3: Where are you getting the money for your campaign? Who's
22:50
Speaker 3: funding you? Is it developers?
22:51
Speaker 2: Are you?
22:52
Speaker 3: Are you the property developer candidate?
22:57
Speaker 13: It's at the moment it is the team funding and
22:59
Speaker 13: of course we're going to do some raising and get
23:02
Speaker 13: support from the public also. So there's a lot of
23:05
Speaker 13: people that have been behind us. And to be honest,
23:07
Speaker 13: the feedback from the people here has been incredible for me.
23:10
Speaker 13: I didn't expect that. I didn't know what to expect,
23:12
Speaker 13: but the people and the people here of the Melbourne
23:15
Speaker 13: City have just been wonderful and right behind.
23:17
Speaker 3: Us, and so.
23:19
Speaker 13: It's been really out It's something out of my comfort zone,
23:21
Speaker 13: but something I've now really grown into and really enjoyed
23:25
Speaker 13: and to hear from the people. My job is really
23:28
Speaker 13: to make the most Liverpool city Again, if I have
23:30
Speaker 13: that opportunity.
23:31
Speaker 2: Is it the case so that you're effectively representing property developers?
23:35
Speaker 3: Are they your supporters?
23:38
Speaker 13: To be honest, whether it's property or business, it's all
23:40
Speaker 13: even to me. It doesn't matter who's behind me my team.
23:42
Speaker 13: I'm here to be equal amongst everything and whether they
23:44
Speaker 13: were part of the team or not. Property is a
23:46
Speaker 13: big thing in our city, so we've always got to
23:48
Speaker 13: look at it. But like with everything else, it's not
23:51
Speaker 13: just going to be solely property and some of the
23:53
Speaker 13: policies that we've come out with, we're going to look
23:54
Speaker 13: at everything and speak to the people in Melbourne and
23:57
Speaker 13: see what they want and bring into it. East Good
24:00
Speaker 13: great example. I wasn't a big fan of him. I
24:02
Speaker 13: hate seeing them trash around the city, you know, I
24:05
Speaker 13: left in front of shops on footpaths. I worry for
24:08
Speaker 13: the elderly. But the people of Melbourne really wanted them,
24:10
Speaker 13: and so I had to find a way in how
24:12
Speaker 13: we could include it into it, and you know, finding
24:15
Speaker 13: the areas of the city where they need to park
24:18
Speaker 13: each scooters and I really want to look at the
24:20
Speaker 13: speed limits and stuff like that, and if that don't
24:22
Speaker 13: park them in the appropriate areas, then they get a fine.
24:25
Speaker 13: And so all I want is a little bit of
24:27
Speaker 13: respect for you know, the rate payers money. If we're
24:30
Speaker 13: offering that to the people, the public people, then they
24:33
Speaker 13: need to respect it.
24:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of them scootered by you just a moment ago.
24:37
Speaker 2: Now, all CBDs have been smashed by COVID and lockdowns,
24:41
Speaker 2: obviously Melbourne more than any other, and Melbourne's seems to
24:44
Speaker 2: be slower in bouncing back. You're talking about free fitness
24:48
Speaker 2: classes and free cups of coffee, anything to get people
24:52
Speaker 2: back into the CBD. We will understand the need to
24:54
Speaker 2: do that. But isn't your biggest problem here the state government.
24:57
Speaker 2: Doesn't the state government need to bring public servants back
25:00
Speaker 2: into the city.
25:02
Speaker 13: Well, that's something log obviously We're going to try to
25:04
Speaker 13: communicate with them and see what we can do in
25:06
Speaker 13: that sort of aspect. We need the public servants back
25:08
Speaker 13: and I know at the moment it's difficult for some people,
25:12
Speaker 13: but we need the city as number one priority. We
25:14
Speaker 13: can't force them back. It's really up to state government.
25:17
Speaker 13: It's worked really well in Sydney. The other thing is
25:19
Speaker 13: I've just got back from Queensland and had to cut
25:21
Speaker 13: my trip short with my family because I have so
25:24
Speaker 13: much going on here. But the public system up there
25:27
Speaker 13: is incredible fifty cent fair from Gold Coast to Brisbane,
25:30
Speaker 13: and so I think we need to do a little
25:31
Speaker 13: bit more here. It's not up to me, it's up
25:33
Speaker 13: to the state government and the private transport holders too.
25:36
Speaker 13: We want to bring concession rates transport into the city
25:39
Speaker 13: and particularly on it like on a Friday that we've
25:41
Speaker 13: really identified and you know, we want to give We're
25:45
Speaker 13: given incentives like a five thousand dollars startup cost any
25:48
Speaker 13: new businesses that come into the city. You know, there's
25:51
Speaker 13: all these events we want to introduce back here. We
25:53
Speaker 13: want to make it the most livererbo city in the
25:54
Speaker 13: world and we need that vibrancy back and so there's
25:56
Speaker 13: a lot of work to do, but we do need
25:58
Speaker 13: a bit of assistance from the state.
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Speaker 3: Anthony, just briefly, have you ever been a member of
26:02
Speaker 3: a political party?
26:05
Speaker 8: Now?
26:05
Speaker 2: I have a no, no, all right, so a true independent.
26:08
Speaker 2: And finally, Nicholas Reese, the current Lord Mayor.
26:11
Speaker 3: You would have caught up with him. You know he's
26:12
Speaker 3: a big labor man.
26:13
Speaker 2: Do you also know he's a Carlton supporter and he's
26:15
Speaker 2: probably cheered you from the grandstands of Princes Park back.
26:18
Speaker 3: In the day. Yeah, he is a Calen man.
26:22
Speaker 13: I accidentally bumped into him in the game was Carlton
26:24
Speaker 13: v Hawthorne. I sat literally right in front of him
26:28
Speaker 13: and he introduced.
26:28
Speaker 3: Himself and we had a fight.
26:29
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, So it's the first time I met him,
26:31
Speaker 13: but I heard he was a Carlton man.
26:32
Speaker 3: So at least he's got the right team. He's picked
26:34
Speaker 3: the right team in the Blues. Great stuff. Thanks for
26:37
Speaker 3: joining us, Anthony, I appreciate it.
26:39
Speaker 2: Anthony couterfeed he's there, the independent candidate for the Lord
26:43
Speaker 2: Mayoralty of Melbourne.
26:44
Speaker 3: Boy could he play? Could he play?
26:46
Speaker 2: And Adonis who could grab the ball in one hand
26:49
Speaker 2: and run the length of the ground. Now, after the break,
26:52
Speaker 2: we've got to catch up with Caroline Derusher and Nicholas
26:55
Speaker 2: Reese is running mate too. Rashina Campbell talk about the
26:59
Speaker 2: Greens one way ticket to Blackouts and also Prince Harry's
27:03
Speaker 2: lavish fortieth birthday gift. It's got to our panel now
27:11
Speaker 2: and we're joined by Sky News host Caroline. You're also
27:13
Speaker 2: in Perth and the Melbourne City councilor Rashena Campbell live
27:16
Speaker 2: from Melbourne.
27:17
Speaker 3: Thanks for both joining us.
27:19
Speaker 2: I want to start off on energy and this story
27:21
Speaker 2: that I'm certain would have raised hackles around the country,
27:24
Speaker 2: and that is news that the bosses at a Linter
27:28
Speaker 2: Energy you're going to get us between the lot of them,
27:30
Speaker 2: a seven million dollar boost in pay It's a forty
27:33
Speaker 2: percent increase caroline, while the rest of us are hit
27:36
Speaker 2: with these massively increasing bills.
27:41
Speaker 14: Yeah, and look, it's I think it's particularly with the
27:45
Speaker 14: cost of moving crisis we have at the moment, Chris,
27:47
Speaker 14: it's very hard for people to swallow. I mean, ultimately,
27:51
Speaker 14: this is this. You know, a Linter is owned by
27:53
Speaker 14: a Chinese company. It's up to them to determine what
27:57
Speaker 14: they pay their employees. But it really does cause some
28:02
Speaker 14: difficulties for social license Chris. And you know, we see
28:06
Speaker 14: the cost of energy going up all the time and
28:09
Speaker 14: it does make it a little bit more difficult, particularly
28:12
Speaker 14: when these companies are, you know, engaging with government, engaging
28:17
Speaker 14: with other stakeholders. It becomes a little difficult to have
28:20
Speaker 14: sympathy for them when things like this happen. But ultimately
28:25
Speaker 14: it is what it is. It would be very interesting
28:27
Speaker 14: to see if anyone else follows suit.
28:29
Speaker 8: Yeah.
28:30
Speaker 2: Well, you know those Chinese communists, they sure do play
28:33
Speaker 2: a good game of capitalism, don't they.
28:35
Speaker 3: They like all the perks of capitalism. And Rashinda, I.
28:38
Speaker 2: Want to get your thoughts on the characteristic exactly authoritarian
28:43
Speaker 2: capitalism rather than communism.
28:45
Speaker 3: Rashina.
28:46
Speaker 2: Just wrapping into this is more word from the Greens
28:49
Speaker 2: now that right around the country they want to ban
28:51
Speaker 2: any more developments of our natural gas, which is critical
28:55
Speaker 2: obviously in its own right for energy and industry, but
28:58
Speaker 2: also for supplying cheap and affordable energy. So you know,
29:02
Speaker 2: this energy crisis is only going from bad to worse.
29:05
Speaker 2: And the Greens are really a problem to the extent
29:08
Speaker 2: that they have an influence on the debate and what
29:10
Speaker 2: labor does.
29:13
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, if you ever thought the Greens could
29:15
Speaker 15: ever be a party of government, this is your answer.
29:17
Speaker 15: They are not doing the hard policy work to make
29:20
Speaker 15: sure that we.
29:21
Speaker 3: Have reliable and affordable.
29:23
Speaker 15: Energy that's going to keep this country going. They are
29:26
Speaker 15: a party of protest and assent and at the end
29:29
Speaker 15: of the day, we need to be governed by grown
29:31
Speaker 15: ups at every level of government, and they have not
29:34
Speaker 15: done the hard work that's going to keep businesses open
29:37
Speaker 15: and families going as well. So I think this is
29:40
Speaker 15: incredibly disappointing and something that all of us should be
29:44
Speaker 15: very worried about. It's one thing to be out there
29:46
Speaker 15: signaling about the importance of renewable energy, but if you
29:49
Speaker 15: haven't done the hard work to make sure the power
29:51
Speaker 15: stays on, it doesn't count for much.
29:54
Speaker 2: Now, I just want to go to another grab from
29:56
Speaker 2: what's happened in the US. I want to get your
29:57
Speaker 2: thoughts on what's happened with this latest assassination temp on
30:00
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. We talked about how the Secret Service we're
30:04
Speaker 2: only looking after certain aspects of the golf course.
30:06
Speaker 3: He's what the local sheriff had to say at.
30:09
Speaker 8: This level that he is at right now, he's not
30:12
Speaker 8: the city president. If he was, we would have had
30:14
Speaker 8: this higher a golf course around it. Well, because he's not,
30:17
Speaker 8: the security is limited to the areas that the Secret
30:20
Speaker 8: Service deems possible.
30:23
Speaker 3: Caroline, this staggers me.
30:24
Speaker 2: He's a former president, he's running as a candidate again.
30:27
Speaker 2: They shot his ear off just two months ago. Shouldn't
30:31
Speaker 2: they be giving him the maximum security possible?
30:35
Speaker 14: Well, you would think so. You would absolutely think so,
30:39
Speaker 14: particularly given the situation last time, which was only you know,
30:45
Speaker 14: only a few weeks ago. I mean, this was this
30:47
Speaker 14: did not happen a long time ago. The Secret Service
30:49
Speaker 14: were really quite wanting on that occasion. You would think
30:53
Speaker 14: that they would behave in a way that would mean that,
30:58
Speaker 14: you know, there wasn't any question mark for the job
31:00
Speaker 14: that they were doing. I actually find it really quite
31:03
Speaker 14: extraordinary because it's part of the authorities. It's part of
31:07
Speaker 14: those forces that you know, they need to be seen
31:10
Speaker 14: to be credible, they need to be seen to be
31:11
Speaker 14: doing their job. And you're right, he's a former president,
31:15
Speaker 14: he's running for president. He could very well be president
31:18
Speaker 14: within a few months. You would think that they would
31:21
Speaker 14: bridge that gap to make sure that no further questions
31:24
Speaker 14: were asked about their competence and the way that they
31:27
Speaker 14: were running their show. But obviously not.
31:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, well maybe from now.
31:32
Speaker 2: It's just astounding, Rishenda, I want to hear your thoughts
31:35
Speaker 2: on the political rehtric now again, anyone who indulges in violence,
31:39
Speaker 2: they're the ones to blame you.
31:40
Speaker 3: You can't blame other people's words.
31:42
Speaker 2: But the Democrats keep telling us that Trump is divisive,
31:46
Speaker 2: and we know about Trump's rhetoric, No one has to
31:48
Speaker 2: No one's ignorant about that. But when you're telling people
31:51
Speaker 2: that the future of the country and the democracies at stake,
31:55
Speaker 2: that if you vote for this guy, America is finished,
31:58
Speaker 2: my god, that elevates the stakes, doesn't it.
32:04
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
32:05
Speaker 15: And I think that it's worth mentioning that New York
32:07
Speaker 15: Times polling that came out a little while ago that
32:09
Speaker 15: found actually, most people did not think that Trump's policies
32:14
Speaker 15: were too extreme. I think they're only about thirty percent
32:16
Speaker 15: of people who did. So they're playing on the fear
32:19
Speaker 15: of people unnecessarily instead of having the hard political debates,
32:25
Speaker 15: and that's quite frankly. I think what American voters deserve.
32:28
Speaker 15: They deserve a real contest of ideas, no matter what
32:32
Speaker 15: your politics are. To try and suggest that there is
32:35
Speaker 15: going to be an end of world scenario that's taking
32:38
Speaker 15: politics down I think to a tone that's below what
32:41
Speaker 15: American voters deserve.
32:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too polarized. I think one of the fact
32:45
Speaker 2: is is they don't see people engaging in dat to
32:47
Speaker 2: day debate the way we do in Australia. I think
32:50
Speaker 2: if they could see Kamala Harris and Donald Trump on
32:53
Speaker 2: the same stage, more often engaging in a bit of
32:55
Speaker 2: tip for tat. Then that actually low was the temperature
32:58
Speaker 2: a bit Instead, they're sort of ends of the country
33:00
Speaker 2: screaming at each other. But I want to move on
33:02
Speaker 2: to the other a lower level of politics. Now back
33:05
Speaker 2: to local government and Roshina.
33:07
Speaker 3: Of course you're involved in this. You've got your election
33:09
Speaker 3: coming up.
33:09
Speaker 2: You're running as the deputy for Nicholas Rees for the
33:14
Speaker 2: Lord Merrillty. But we had the local government elections in
33:17
Speaker 2: New South Wales on the weekend and I want to
33:19
Speaker 2: show these posters that are around the place, very commonplace
33:23
Speaker 2: we vote for Palestine. There's a website connected to that
33:27
Speaker 2: giving you an idea of every candidate, whether they're whether
33:30
Speaker 2: they're signing up to supporting refugees from Palestine, calling for
33:35
Speaker 2: sea spires, describing Israel as apartheid. I just want to
33:39
Speaker 2: ask you whether this is happening in the Victorian local
33:42
Speaker 2: government elections as well, and whether.
33:45
Speaker 3: It should are supposed to be roads rates and rubbish,
33:47
Speaker 3: isn't it absolutely so?
33:50
Speaker 15: I'm really sad to say a bit of this has
33:52
Speaker 15: been seeping in Victoria. The idea that council should have
33:56
Speaker 15: any role to play in these sorts of issues of
33:59
Speaker 15: internet national conflict.
34:01
Speaker 3: You've got to be.
34:01
Speaker 15: Kidding yourself, right if you think that you've got something
34:04
Speaker 15: to say about what's happening over there in the Middle East,
34:06
Speaker 15: you're in.
34:07
Speaker 3: The wrong job.
34:08
Speaker 15: If you're a local government counselor. My view is this,
34:10
Speaker 15: you've got to stick to your key job, roads rates
34:12
Speaker 15: and rubbish. Whether you're getting that playground delivered, that library opened,
34:16
Speaker 15: and whether you're keeping rates low. That's what your voters
34:19
Speaker 15: are worried about. You've got ambitions to fix peace in
34:22
Speaker 15: the Middle East, Go find another job.
34:25
Speaker 2: To go to the certain ward of some Melbourne council
34:29
Speaker 2: and vote green.
34:31
Speaker 3: To solve the Middle East crisis. It is beyond absurd,
34:34
Speaker 3: but it's toxic.
34:34
Speaker 2: What I hate about it brings in that divisiveness at
34:37
Speaker 2: a grassroots level in politics is toxic. It's got to
34:40
Speaker 2: be called out, but sadly wile yet, I just got.
34:43
Speaker 15: To get your thoughts ugly and what we ask Yeah, sorry, Chris,
34:47
Speaker 15: I'm just going to say what we have seen repeatedly
34:49
Speaker 15: is these motions coming up in council about issues around Gaza.
34:53
Speaker 15: And I'm really proud that Nick and I voted against that.
34:56
Speaker 15: You've got to keep that out of local politics.
34:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got to keep on next time. Sure he
35:00
Speaker 3: doesn't go too hard left into the center now.
35:04
Speaker 2: But before we are around of time, Caroline, I've got
35:06
Speaker 2: to get your thoughts as the host of the Royal
35:08
Speaker 2: Report about Prince Harry.
35:10
Speaker 3: This is a good deal. What a great grandmother he had.
35:13
Speaker 2: The Queen Mother left in a trust fund eight million
35:17
Speaker 2: pounds about sixteen million Australian dollars that he gets on
35:21
Speaker 2: his fortieth birthday. That's some fortieth birthday present, right, does
35:24
Speaker 2: he deserve that?
35:27
Speaker 14: Well, it's a cracker of a It's a cracker of
35:29
Speaker 14: a birthday present. Well, this is the thing with inheritances.
35:32
Speaker 14: It's not about deserving it just it's about being related
35:35
Speaker 14: to the right people. And for a bloke who does
35:37
Speaker 14: an awful lot of winging about his life, he's been
35:40
Speaker 14: kissed on the proverbial for this one, I think, Chris, Yeah, it's.
35:43
Speaker 3: Not bagging the family. Now, he'll take the money.
35:46
Speaker 2: If he really has problems with the family, surely he'd
35:49
Speaker 2: give them.
35:49
Speaker 3: Money to charity, you'd think so.
35:53
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Caroline and Rashina really appreciated The
35:56
Speaker 2: big question now is how long it'll take Megan and
35:59
Speaker 2: Harry in the dotche Now we're going to get to
36:02
Speaker 2: a break. On the other side, they're going to catch
36:03
Speaker 2: up with Zoe Mackenzie. I want to talk to her
36:04
Speaker 2: about how mortgage hardship is up in this country under
36:08
Speaker 2: Labour's watch. Let's go down to Melbourne now and catch
36:16
Speaker 2: up with Libloo and p Zoey Mackenzie.
36:18
Speaker 3: Good to talk to you, Ken, Zoe. Disturbing reports, I
36:21
Speaker 3: suppose not.
36:21
Speaker 2: Very surprising though, saying that mortgage stress now is increased
36:25
Speaker 2: eighty percent this year, especially in Victoria and New South Wales.
36:30
Speaker 2: Now this is highly distressing for those people involved. There
36:33
Speaker 2: are people, as the Reserve Bank governor said the other week,
36:35
Speaker 2: you're going to have to end up selling their home
36:37
Speaker 2: and it's only going to get worse in coming months.
36:40
Speaker 16: Yeah, it is really concerning. What's in the paper today, Chris,
36:43
Speaker 16: and great work by Dean Smith to bring this out
36:46
Speaker 16: last week. So it does show an almost doubling in Victoria,
36:50
Speaker 16: New South Wales up sixty to seventy percent, in Quinsand
36:52
Speaker 16: and South Sto and Tasmania. So it's a really difficult time.
36:57
Speaker 16: We know that you know, I see this driving around
36:58
Speaker 16: the peninsula at the moment. You've got for sales signs everywhere.
37:01
Speaker 16: That is largely due to land taxes skyrocketing throughout Victoria
37:07
Speaker 16: thanks to the state labor government, but equally just people
37:10
Speaker 16: paying on average twenty five thousand dollars more in interest
37:14
Speaker 16: alone for their mortgages. So it's no wonder we see
37:17
Speaker 16: such a stark increase in those who are more than
37:20
Speaker 16: ninety days in areas in their mortgage payments. So really
37:24
Speaker 16: tough times and our no Labor tries to tell us
37:26
Speaker 16: people have never had it better and everything's going so well,
37:29
Speaker 16: and you know the theory that economically, theoretically things are
37:34
Speaker 16: going great, but let me tell you, no one's telling
37:35
Speaker 16: me it's going great on the streets of the Mornington Peninsula.
37:38
Speaker 16: You've got to keep in mind that people's homes, their
37:40
Speaker 16: mortgages are often their backbone, the funds that supply their
37:43
Speaker 16: small business. So it will have a cascading effect as
37:46
Speaker 16: people struggle to pay their mortgages, it will affect their
37:48
Speaker 16: business as well.
37:49
Speaker 2: As it happens Afinely alb and Easy was out announcing
37:52
Speaker 2: government moves on the social housing today, and we got
37:56
Speaker 2: this story again.
37:58
Speaker 11: I go up in social housing. The key to that
38:03
Speaker 11: security that Austraan's need is a secure roof over their head.
38:08
Speaker 11: That is what this is about today.
38:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in social housing and they talk with this
38:13
Speaker 2: scheme to invest government money in people's own homes.
38:17
Speaker 3: But the bottom line.
38:18
Speaker 2: Is the way to fix the housing crisis is to
38:21
Speaker 2: enable more people to get into the housing and have
38:23
Speaker 2: interest rates low, make it affordable and easy to build
38:25
Speaker 2: your own home. That allows more investment and of course
38:28
Speaker 2: more rental properties. And we're just going in the wrong
38:31
Speaker 2: direction on all that stuff.
38:33
Speaker 16: And honestly, can we just cut the hypocrisy. I've got
38:36
Speaker 16: hundreds of public housing properties on the Mornington pininsulae that
38:39
Speaker 16: are untenanted. They're just being left there to fall into
38:43
Speaker 16: the earth. Why is that because they don't want to
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Speaker 16: spend the money on maintenance. I presume they just want
38:47
Speaker 16: to get them to a point where they have to
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Speaker 16: be sold and therefore they'll sell well and that money
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Speaker 16: will go somewhere else, not rather than being spent on
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Speaker 16: the peninsul It's the same with the airbnb tax, the
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Speaker 16: seven point five percent tax they're going to impose, largely
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Speaker 16: that will be paid for by people coming to my
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Speaker 16: community over the summertime and we will see absolutely nothing
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Speaker 16: back for it. So I'm sick of the hypocrisy in
39:09
Speaker 16: relation to what they could do to help with homelessness
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Speaker 16: right here and now, and then what they could do
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Speaker 16: in it in order to get people in their own homes.
39:17
Speaker 16: Were keep hearing these billions of bucks that's been on housing.
39:19
Speaker 16: Well I haven't seen a house being built by them yet, not.
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Speaker 3: One who's been built yet. It's extraordinary.
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Speaker 2: I want to get into this dispute between the government
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Speaker 2: and Elon Musk. There was a story about what the
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Speaker 2: Australian government's doing in the digital media space and have
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Speaker 2: a look at this tweet from Elon Muski recirculated that
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Speaker 2: with one word saying fascists called the Australian government fascists.
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Speaker 3: Now there's a.
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Speaker 2: Couple of elements to this. There's one is putting the
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Speaker 2: onus on the digital giants to make sure that kids
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Speaker 2: under fourteen or sixteen, depending what the laws will be,
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Speaker 2: can't sign up to social media.
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Speaker 3: They've got to identify themselves. Now, I'm all on.
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Speaker 2: The government side in that argument, and the digital sis
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Speaker 2: have got to be made to lift their game.
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Speaker 3: But where I'm on Elon Must's side.
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Speaker 2: Is this misinformation disinformation stuff we're getting from Labor. These
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Speaker 2: laws have massive potential to inflict a level of censorship
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Speaker 2: effectively on the Australian population.
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Speaker 3: That we couldn't have dreamed of in the past.
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Speaker 2: Surely the Coalition must be very, very skeptical about these laws.
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Speaker 16: Well you have, indeed, Herd David Coleman express exactly exactly
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Speaker 16: that skepticism on who gets to say what's correct information
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Speaker 16: and who gets to say what's incorrect information. But before
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Speaker 16: you go giving the Labor Page too much credit, can
40:37
Speaker 16: I say, Chris on that social media ban. Peter Dutton
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Speaker 16: called for this ban in June and he was specific
40:42
Speaker 16: about the agent which it should come into effect. And
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Speaker 16: my friend Andrew Wallace has been putting this barrow four years.
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Speaker 16: I raised it in my maiden speech two years ago.
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Speaker 16: So I'll be damned if you're going to give them
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Speaker 16: too much credit for getting this moving. This has been
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Speaker 16: a long term position of the Coalition to do something
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Speaker 16: about this. And yes, I understand that Elon isn't happy
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Speaker 16: about a notion that we won't let fifteen year olds
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Speaker 16: and fourteen year olds and twelve year olds sprawl their
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Speaker 16: way around ex or Twitter. But you know, the car
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Speaker 16: companies didn't like it we put seatbelts on and the
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Speaker 16: cigarette companies didn't like it when we put warnings on them,
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Speaker 16: and the wine bottles didn't like it so much when
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Speaker 16: we put pregnancy advisories on there either. But the time
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Speaker 16: has come. We have enough evidence now to know that
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Speaker 16: something has to be done to make social media safer.
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Speaker 16: There's just an age at which you are not to
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Speaker 16: be subjected to the floods of nastiness, negativity, criminality, radicalization,
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Speaker 16: all the things we knowed well in the social media environment.
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Speaker 16: It's time that we drew a line under it and
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Speaker 16: did something to protect our young people.
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Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, and I did double check last week.
41:42
Speaker 2: You're right that you and the liberals and Peter Dutton
41:45
Speaker 2: and others pushed this early and first, and then of
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Speaker 2: course the labor premiere in South Australia got up on it,
41:50
Speaker 2: and so Albo sort of a late comer to it.
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Speaker 3: But he's doing the right thing eventually.
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Speaker 2: But I still think on this misinformation legislation, this is
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Speaker 2: the worry we had our government censor us during COVID.
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Speaker 2: They censored truthful tweets, truthful social media posts from the
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Speaker 2: COVID discussion. So how could we possibly trust government or
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Speaker 2: semi government or organizations to decide what is misinformation and
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Speaker 2: what is not in the future.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think this legislation has got a long way
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Speaker 16: to go yet before it reaches its safe landing ground
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Speaker 16: for Australians, and we need to have some rigorous guardrails
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Speaker 16: around that process. The original idea that was Downwright or
42:30
Speaker 16: Willy and you know, it's kind of like two legs good,
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Speaker 16: four leagus bad kind of stuff. I'm glad that some
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Speaker 16: of the most egregious stuff is out of the current bill.
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Speaker 16: But again, we'll look at it hard and then we'll
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Speaker 16: take it to the party room and have a fullsome debate.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure indeed, thanks for joining us, so you might
42:45
Speaker 2: have to actually end up opposing that one.
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Speaker 3: We shall see. Got to get to a break.
42:48
Speaker 2: On the other side, I'm going to catch up with
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Speaker 2: media writer from The Australian Sophiel's Worth.
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Speaker 3: As ever, we're going to talk.
42:53
Speaker 2: About the ABC going on to radio silence now over
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Speaker 2: their much hyped racism review. Let's talk media and boy
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Speaker 2: there's lots to talk about with the media writer from
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Speaker 2: The Australian, Sofie Elsworth, Life from Melbourne.
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Speaker 3: Good to talk to you, Sophia.
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Speaker 2: I got to tell you, it's been a long while
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Speaker 2: since I've been as engrossed in one of these commercial
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Speaker 2: television carent affairs programs as.
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Speaker 3: I was in Spotlight last night.
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Speaker 2: Just absolutely destroying this so called journalism from the ABC
43:28
Speaker 2: when it comes to what our troops are up to
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Speaker 2: in Afghanistan.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, Chris, and I heard your editorial at the top
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Speaker 6: of your show. This is really concerning that the ABC
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Speaker 6: has problematic audio with this footage of Australian soldiers in Afghanistan. Now,
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Speaker 6: just in the last half an hour, my colleague Ellie
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Speaker 6: Dudley has published a story on The Australian saying that
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Speaker 6: Heston Russell has written to Kim Williams, the ABC chair,
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Speaker 6: and he's requesting face to face meeting with him to
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Speaker 6: discuss how this doctored audio was inputed into this video
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Speaker 6: of the Australian footage that aired on the ABC. But Chris,
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Speaker 6: the ABC regularly boasts that it is Australia's most trusted
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Speaker 6: news source and this is seriously damaging for the public
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Speaker 6: broadcaster and Kim Williams needs to take action.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're spot on there, Sophie. Actually, Hestin Russell said
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Speaker 2: that on Sky earlier today.
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Speaker 5: Here is the ABC needs to sit down, go through
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Speaker 5: due process.
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Speaker 4: Reached out to Kim Williams, the new head, the new
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Speaker 4: chair of the ABC, and asked to meet with him
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Speaker 4: and go through this because it is a shocking scandal
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Speaker 4: and they can't weasele their way out of it now.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, there's got to be a proper investigation into this,
44:48
Speaker 2: and no doubt the pressure will continue to mount. Sofia,
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Speaker 2: I just want to show our viewers in case they
44:52
Speaker 2: tuned in late, some of what I outlined at the
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Speaker 2: top of the program. This is all courtesy of Channel
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Speaker 2: seven Spotlight program. And this gets to the key of this.
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Speaker 3: Uh this dodgy audio. If you look a look, have a.
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Speaker 1: Look, revealing an astonishing difference between the source vision and
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Speaker 1: the version of events told by the ABC's Mark Willison,
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Speaker 1: which starts with six rounds of firing, then the single
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Speaker 1: warning shot becomes six.
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Speaker 5: To me, it appears some of these things they've literally
45:36
Speaker 5: added extra gunshots. That's phenomenal. So I fell off my
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Speaker 5: chair when I saw this.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just shocking stuff.
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Speaker 2: But I suppose I'm a little concerned, Sophie that people
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Speaker 2: just focus only on that, because there are so many
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Speaker 2: other aspects of the reporting that were questioned, like the
45:53
Speaker 2: key informative, you like the key witness for the ABC.
45:58
Speaker 2: It's shown that he says that he's only got sketchy details. Basically,
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Speaker 2: don't take my word for it. I can't really help
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Speaker 2: you out. Don't trust my recollections. We get none of
46:06
Speaker 2: that from the ABC. Another interviewee who said his interview
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Speaker 2: was edited to transfer a meaning that was.
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Speaker 3: The opposite to what he was saying. I mean, it's
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Speaker 3: extraordinary stuff.
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Speaker 6: It is extraordinary stuff. And this takes a lot of
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Speaker 6: bravery and courage to speak up and tackle the ABC.
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Speaker 6: They have enormously deep pockets, Chris, as you and I know,
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Speaker 6: they have one billion dollars a year in our funding
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Speaker 6: from the taxpayer. So to take them on, as Heston
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Speaker 6: Russell has is inexpensive, you know, time consuming and sometimes
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Speaker 6: really demoralizing situation to put yourself in against the behemoth
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Speaker 6: of the taxpayer funded broadcaster. But he has done that,
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Speaker 6: and he is showing that he's not backing down.
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Speaker 2: He is a very brave and courageous man who is
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Speaker 2: Heston Russell, who'll be on with Andrew Bolt later, and
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Speaker 2: he deserves a lot of credit for this has been very,
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Speaker 2: very difficult for him. Another story related to the ABC
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Speaker 2: that you've broken Today's Sophie is their much vaunted racism review.
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Speaker 2: It seems to be disappearing without a.
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Speaker 3: Trace, Chris.
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Speaker 6: This is really quite remarkable. The ABC announced on May
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Speaker 6: twenty one last year, so sixteen months ago, that they
47:22
Speaker 6: were holding an independent review into racism claims at the ABC,
47:27
Speaker 6: following the claims by Stan Grant that he was treated
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Speaker 6: poorly at the ABC after he covered the King's coronation.
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Speaker 6: We are now sixteen months on. David Anderson said Senate
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Speaker 6: estimates may in May that this would be finished by
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Speaker 6: the end of July. We are now in September, Chris,
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Speaker 6: and there is no sign of this report. I could
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Speaker 6: not raise Terry Janki, the law firm who is doing this.
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Speaker 6: They did not respond to me. The ABC won't tell
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Speaker 6: me when it's been handed down. But Warren Mundine said
47:58
Speaker 6: to me in this story, this is ridiculous. Some murder
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Speaker 6: trials take longer, shorter than this, and they are still
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Speaker 6: waiting for the results of this review sixteen months on Crease.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's extraordinary, they said they do it.
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Speaker 2: I don't know whether it's necessarily It'll be more better
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Speaker 2: spent looking at their own reporting and its objectivity. But
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Speaker 2: if they really think racism is a problem in their organization,
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Speaker 2: they got to do it more quickly than this. As
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Speaker 2: you say, extraordinary stuff. Thanks for joining us, Sophia, appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: Sophie your's worth. You can read her stuff in the
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Speaker 2: Australian newspaper. Just a lot happening in the media at
48:34
Speaker 2: the moment and she's all over it. Just some of
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Speaker 2: your feedback from what I had to say last week
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Speaker 2: about those horrible, violent riots in Melbourne. One viewer says,
48:42
Speaker 2: as a migrant in Australia for five years, I don't
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Speaker 2: understand why these people are protesting on something Australia has
48:48
Speaker 2: nothing to do with. And Marian says everyone is in denial.
48:52
Speaker 2: Is this what we want our Australia to be? And
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Speaker 2: Raymond says the politicians and the faceless people behind the scene.
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Speaker 3: Need to be held accountable.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially the Greens who were egging this one actually
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Speaker 2: attended that rally, and another viewer says, well, said, Chris,
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Speaker 2: finally someone said it. Well, a few of us are
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Speaker 2: saying it, but we've got to stand up for this
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Speaker 2: country and decency. There'll be more of that on this
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Speaker 2: program tonight, starting with Peter Quidlin.
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Speaker 3: Next, see you tomorrow