Latest / Crime Stories with Nancy Grace / Precious 9-year-old South Dakota girl vanishes, 911 call DELAYED? Where is Serenity?
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Authorities in Rockerville are searching
- 0:13Speaker 1: for a nine year old girl who went missing earlier today.
- 0:17Speaker 1: Nine year old Serenity Dinner was last spotted leaving the
- 0:20Speaker 1: Children's Home Society on South Rockerville Road around eleven twenty
- 0:24Speaker 1: this morning. Dinner. It is seven, is four to seven,
- 0:27Speaker 1: ninety pounds with blue eyes and shoulder length a dirty
- 0:30Speaker 1: blonde hair. She was last seen wearing a long sleeved
- 0:34Speaker 1: gray shirt with flowers, blue jeans and snow boots. Temperatures
- 0:38Speaker 1: are expected to drop below zero to night. If anyone
- 0:42Speaker 1: has any information regarding her whereabouts, please contact the Pinton
- 0:45Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Office at six oh five three nine four
- 0:49Speaker 1: six one one five. Friends at KOTATVS. That was Nick
- 0:54Speaker 1: Reagan with the breaking knees seven Nity Dinner missing the
- 0:58Speaker 1: gorgeous little girl in South Dakota. And we are now
- 1:02Speaker 1: learning that the original reports regarding the disappearance of nine
- 1:06Speaker 1: year old Serenity Dinner are not exactly correct. What, if anything,
- 1:14Speaker 1: does it mean? This as a search for the nine
- 1:17Speaker 1: year old girl goes on I Nancy Grays, this is
- 1:21Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. Straight out
- 1:24Speaker 1: to Mark Class, the founder of Class Kids Foundation. Mark.
- 1:29Speaker 1: So many aspects of this story don't fit together with me.
- 1:35Speaker 1: This little girl was in a children's home in South Dakota,
- 1:38Speaker 1: and I'm now learning that the staff there called nine
- 1:43Speaker 1: one one much later than they initially reported after Serenity
- 1:49Speaker 1: goes missing. Now does it mean anything, I'm not sure.
- 1:53Speaker 1: But whenever I find an inconsistency in the timeline and
- 1:57Speaker 1: there is a missing nine year old girl, I don't
- 2:00Speaker 1: like it, Mark Class, I don't like it at all. Well,
- 2:03Speaker 1: what it means, Dancy, is that the home was ill
- 2:06Speaker 1: prepared to deal with the emergency that they found themselves in.
- 2:11Speaker 1: They waited an out over an hour and forty minutes
- 2:14Speaker 1: before they notified law enforcement. And this is a little
- 2:17Speaker 1: girl who was practiced at running away. One of the
- 2:20Speaker 1: reasons she was in the home was because she is
- 2:22Speaker 1: a problematic child and has various emotional and personality issues,
- 2:30Speaker 1: and she was able to they're saying, she was almost
- 2:35Speaker 1: able to finesse her escape, and the response was totally,
- 2:39Speaker 1: incompletely inadequate. And the result is three months later, law
- 2:43Speaker 1: enforcement is scouring the area with multiple search teams and
- 2:48Speaker 1: multiple law enforcement agencies. I understood that people are at
- 2:53Speaker 1: the facility saw her running away, and if they saw her,
- 2:59Speaker 1: why could not retrieve her. Also, a couple on the road,
- 3:04Speaker 1: as I recall the facts, saw a young girl going
- 3:07Speaker 1: in the opposite direction. She was spotted. And I mean,
- 3:11Speaker 1: and I'm ignoring the elephant in the room, is why
- 3:14Speaker 1: she keep trying to run away? To start with? What
- 3:17Speaker 1: is causing this girl, this little tiny girl, to take
- 3:21Speaker 1: out in horrible weather conditions, to leave this facility. That's
- 3:26Speaker 1: my number two question. My number one question is where
- 3:29Speaker 1: is she to Mark Class, founder of Class Kids Foundation,
- 3:32Speaker 1: give me your understanding of how her departure went down. Well,
- 3:38Speaker 1: it's exactly as you said. She was in the gym with,
- 3:42Speaker 1: as I understand it, three other children and two supervisors.
- 3:46Speaker 1: One of the children ran, so the supervisor went after
- 3:51Speaker 1: that little girl. When I say run, I believe she
- 3:54Speaker 1: left the gym facility and was outside in the exposed
- 3:58Speaker 1: there and that when Serenity decided, or that's when Serenity
- 4:04Speaker 1: took the opportunity to do exactly the same thing, to
- 4:08Speaker 1: bolt and run away from the facility. The remaining supervisor
- 4:13Speaker 1: made the decision, as I understand it, to stay with
- 4:16Speaker 1: the other two children, who were in the gym and
- 4:20Speaker 1: did not follow after Serenity. And as you said, two
- 4:24Speaker 1: people saw Serenity heading north. I believe on the road
- 4:29Speaker 1: that she was never seen again. Mark Class Founder, Class
- 4:32Speaker 1: Kids Foundation, You're absolutely right to search. Now goes into
- 4:36Speaker 1: day two. Take a listen to Kota. A desperate search
- 4:40Speaker 1: continues in Pennington County. Search and rescue teams continue looking
- 4:44Speaker 1: for nine year old Serenity Denard, who ran from the
- 4:46Speaker 1: Black Hills Children's Home on Sunday. Now, in case you're
- 4:49Speaker 1: not familiar with the children's home, it's on South Rockerville Road,
- 4:52Speaker 1: between Rockerville and Keystone, in a fairly remote, mostly wooded area.
- 4:57Speaker 1: She was last seen late Sunday morning at the home
- 4:59Speaker 1: near Rockerville. The search and rescue teams took three dogs
- 5:03Speaker 1: and used handheld thermal imaging device to search for any
- 5:06Speaker 1: evidence of the girl. The search went until ten o'clock
- 5:09Speaker 1: Sunday night and started back up this morning around six.
- 5:12Speaker 1: They say more than sixty five people, four dogs, and
- 5:15Speaker 1: a Civil Air Patrol plane were searching the Rockerville area today.
- 5:19Speaker 1: Alexis de Ville explains how the weather affected the search
- 5:22Speaker 1: and how Dennard ran away from the hall. We just
- 5:25Speaker 1: learned deputies are now looking for a couple who may
- 5:28Speaker 1: have seen Dennard last A couple was cutting wood near
- 5:30Speaker 1: Foster Gulch and South Rockerville Road. They spoke with Children's
- 5:33Speaker 1: Home Society staff Sunday morning, just before Dennard was reported
- 5:37Speaker 1: missing to police. The couples described to be in the
- 5:40Speaker 1: late twenties or early thirties and driving a pickup truck.
- 5:43Speaker 1: About sixty five search and rescue members, some with dogs,
- 5:46Speaker 1: are scanning the Rockerville area, but the cold weather is
- 5:49Speaker 1: still affecting the search. Wow, so she was spotted by
- 5:54Speaker 1: passers by and this couple, she could be anywhere. Joining
- 5:59Speaker 1: me right now is a special guest South Dakota State
- 6:03Speaker 1: Senator Lynn DeSanto. Lynn, thank you so much for being
- 6:08Speaker 1: with us. Senator, we received your plea on Facebook. Tell
- 6:15Speaker 1: me how you became focused on Serenity Dinard. Thank you, Mancy.
- 6:20Speaker 1: I originally became involved when Serenity's biological family reached out
- 6:25Speaker 1: to me and said, we need help. Our loved one,
- 6:30Speaker 1: our relative is missing, and we're not sure that enough
- 6:33Speaker 1: is being done. And so they brought my attention to it,
- 6:37Speaker 1: and I started to make some phone calls, and I
- 6:39Speaker 1: realized that we had a very serious problem and someone
- 6:43Speaker 1: needed to take a closer look. Senator de Santo, could
- 6:46Speaker 1: you tell me why you believe Serenity kept running away
- 6:52Speaker 1: from the children's time, that she would brave sleet and
- 6:55Speaker 1: snow and horrific weather conditions to get away. Serenity had
- 7:01Speaker 1: had a very tumultuous childhood. She had been in multiple
- 7:05Speaker 1: foster homes, throwing up. Biological mother is incarcerated in prison,
- 7:12Speaker 1: biological father had been in and out of prison as well.
- 7:16Speaker 1: And so this is a child that came from a
- 7:18Speaker 1: very difficult background who then was adopted by some people
- 7:22Speaker 1: who ended up getting divorced. And this little girl really
- 7:26Speaker 1: got caught up in a lot of different problems of
- 7:29Speaker 1: adults in her life that were supposed to be taking
- 7:32Speaker 1: care of her and keeping an eye on her. And
- 7:35Speaker 1: so I think when you take that into consideration, you
- 7:38Speaker 1: have a child that has some emotional and behavioral issues
- 7:41Speaker 1: and running away and these types of behaviors are included
- 7:45Speaker 1: in that. I just can't help but wonder if she
- 7:48Speaker 1: was not threatened or deeply unhappy in some way, why
- 7:54Speaker 1: would she If she wasn't, why would she have run away?
- 7:58Speaker 1: And hearing her background down Senator makes me feel so
- 8:03Speaker 1: much worse for her. She has never had a chance
- 8:10Speaker 1: in life and if somebody picked her up in a car,
- 8:15Speaker 1: God in Heaven only knows what is happening to this
- 8:18Speaker 1: little child right now. Listen to our friend Alexis de Villa,
- 8:23Speaker 1: a KOTATV. Pennington County Search and Rescue Team leader Tammy
- 8:27Speaker 1: Stradel says, between the steep terrain and the ice build up,
- 8:31Speaker 1: the team was struggling to move around and find evidence.
- 8:34Speaker 1: The snow made it difficult for the crew to find
- 8:36Speaker 1: tracks and four dogs to pick up a cent Children's
- 8:39Speaker 1: Home Society Executive director Bill Colson says Dennard was the
- 8:42Speaker 1: last scene playing with three other children in the gym
- 8:45Speaker 1: when she ran out of the school and headed towards
- 8:47Speaker 1: the hills across the street. He says two staffers were
- 8:50Speaker 1: watching the children, but neither could catch her in time.
- 8:54Speaker 1: One child in one direction, and one of our staff
- 8:56Speaker 1: members that was with those children followed her, and then
- 9:01Speaker 1: Trinity went the other way, and another staff member could
- 9:04Speaker 1: pursue her because she had two other children to be responsible,
- 9:07Speaker 1: and she was the only staff remaining. Learning everything we
- 9:10Speaker 1: can about this circumstance, and you know if this were
- 9:14Speaker 1: to go on unresolved and she's not located, the investigation
- 9:19Speaker 1: will remain a priority until she is located. Crime Stories
- 9:36Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. The search continues for missing nine year
- 9:45Speaker 1: old Serenity Dennard and Rockerville, who was lasting at the
- 9:48Speaker 1: Children's Home Society. Let's head to our Alexus to deal
- 9:51Speaker 1: alive near the ongoing search efforts. So alexis, do we
- 9:54Speaker 1: have any new information about Serenity. Pennington County Shares Office
- 9:58Speaker 1: is thanking the public for being able to find the
- 10:00Speaker 1: couple who was cutting wood. They believe they were the
- 10:03Speaker 1: last people to see Serenity Lenard. Now they know they've
- 10:06Speaker 1: the investagers have talked to them and found out a
- 10:08Speaker 1: little bit more details to understand a little bit more
- 10:10Speaker 1: of the timeline of what happened. Serenity was last seen
- 10:14Speaker 1: on Sunday morning at ten forty five, and they saw
- 10:17Speaker 1: her when she ran out of the facility across Rockerville
- 10:20Speaker 1: Road and up into the hills. Now they've even added
- 10:23Speaker 1: more people to the search and rescue team today. Yesterday
- 10:26Speaker 1: was sixty five. Today it's more than one hundred. Now.
- 10:29Speaker 1: Over here, I'm actually right beside the gaslight restaurant where
- 10:32Speaker 1: they're taking a little break to have their lunch, get
- 10:35Speaker 1: warmed up a little bit, and try to face the
- 10:37Speaker 1: cold once again. I've talked to a few of the
- 10:40Speaker 1: newbies who have come from are coming from box El.
- 10:42Speaker 1: They're telling me that they're not even really prepared for
- 10:44Speaker 1: this cold. Where they'd said they had the wrong shoes,
- 10:46Speaker 1: they didn't have enough layers, So this cold is really
- 10:49Speaker 1: something putting them behind. And it's still a big problem
- 10:52Speaker 1: with this search. They've also talked about that today they're
- 10:56Speaker 1: focusing about a one mile radius around in Rockerville. Are
- 11:00Speaker 1: so close to the Children's Home Society. They are checking
- 11:03Speaker 1: all the neighbors, are going through the hay piles, are
- 11:05Speaker 1: going woodpiles, asking people if they can look into that
- 11:08Speaker 1: to see if maybe Serenity might be hiding in there.
- 11:11Speaker 1: They are also asking the Sheriff's office because also asking
- 11:14Speaker 1: people of who hunt if they can check their game
- 11:16Speaker 1: cameras maybe there might be any type of footage there
- 11:18Speaker 1: that could be helpful to the search. Hearing our friends
- 11:21Speaker 1: at Kota, that's Kelly Schmidt and Alexis de Villa describing
- 11:25Speaker 1: the search third day for nine year old Serenity Denard
- 11:32Speaker 1: I don't understand how a child just nine years old
- 11:36Speaker 1: on foot could outpace searchers, hundreds of searchers, unless she
- 11:44Speaker 1: ended up in somebody's car, which is a very, very
- 11:48Speaker 1: bad thing to South Dakota State Senator Lynn De Santo Senator,
- 11:56Speaker 1: I'm trying to understand the thinking behind the search. We
- 12:01Speaker 1: hear that the searchers were not prepared for the elements,
- 12:05Speaker 1: the weather conditions, and I get it, really really tough
- 12:10Speaker 1: cold weather conditions. So how could this child get away
- 12:16Speaker 1: and they can't find her under these conditions unless she's
- 12:19Speaker 1: in somebody's car. What is the thinking now regarding how
- 12:26Speaker 1: Serenity managed to outpace the searchers. That's an excellent question,
- 12:30Speaker 1: and I think that is exactly what the problem is.
- 12:33Speaker 1: Is when you look at the facts of the case,
- 12:35Speaker 1: you have a little girl, no jacket, no boots, not
- 12:39Speaker 1: dressed at all for the cold, a storm coming in
- 12:44Speaker 1: in an area that is very mountainous, filled with pine
- 12:48Speaker 1: trees and difficult to train. You could be in the
- 12:52Speaker 1: best hiking boots and have excellent gear and have a
- 12:57Speaker 1: difficult time walking through this rain, and yet somehow the
- 13:02Speaker 1: story has been that she somehow got away and was
- 13:06Speaker 1: not found totally ill equipped. That doesn't make sense. And
- 13:12Speaker 1: so in my opinion, as well as many others, there's
- 13:16Speaker 1: a good possibility that serenity is not in the woods
- 13:20Speaker 1: and we need to be looking somewhere else, you know,
- 13:23Speaker 1: State Senator DeSanto. I want to just take a moment
- 13:27Speaker 1: and tell you something. People often ask me about why
- 13:30Speaker 1: I don't talk about politics, and I say, well, because
- 13:34Speaker 1: it makes me sick, and I don't like politicians. I
- 13:38Speaker 1: don't think they care about us. I think they're all lying.
- 13:42Speaker 1: You know what hearing? You be involved and care and
- 13:49Speaker 1: know the facts. You're not just b essing. You know
- 13:53Speaker 1: the facts, you know what happened, You're involved, you care.
- 13:58Speaker 1: It's really meaning a lot to us in the crime
- 14:03Speaker 1: fighting community because very often we feel like we're the
- 14:07Speaker 1: only ones that care. And to hear I hate to
- 14:11Speaker 1: even say politician, let me just a state senator be
- 14:14Speaker 1: this involved in a case really gives us renewed, renewed
- 14:21Speaker 1: strength to keep going. And I'm telling you Mark Class,
- 14:25Speaker 1: founder of Class Kids Foundation. Mark has lived through it.
- 14:29Speaker 1: He has walked the walk. He's just not talking to talk.
- 14:33Speaker 1: His daughter Polly was abducted and what he did to
- 14:39Speaker 1: try to bring Polly home is incredible, and what he
- 14:44Speaker 1: has lived through since her death is overwhelming. Mark Class,
- 14:49Speaker 1: I was I've been faulting the supervisor who just stayed
- 14:55Speaker 1: there with the two kids that were safe and sound
- 14:58Speaker 1: instead of running after the one that was getting out
- 15:01Speaker 1: of the facility. Something's not working for me with this
- 15:05Speaker 1: story that all of these rescuers, all of these searchers
- 15:10Speaker 1: by air, by land, by foot with dogs, they can't
- 15:14Speaker 1: find a nine year old little girl. The only thing
- 15:17Speaker 1: that makes me think it's somewhat true is that couple
- 15:21Speaker 1: who spotted her. I don't know that she's in the wood.
- 15:24Speaker 1: Smart class. First of all, Matthew, I'd like to agree
- 15:27Speaker 1: with everything that you said about the senator. You know,
- 15:29Speaker 1: I've done a million photo ops with politicians, and I
- 15:32Speaker 1: can count the ones that I really believe and trust.
- 15:35Speaker 1: On one hand, I think what we have to do
- 15:39Speaker 1: in this case is really look back, like they always
- 15:42Speaker 1: say in a missing child case, look back at the
- 15:44Speaker 1: last person that saw that child. And I don't necessarily
- 15:48Speaker 1: mean the people that were chopping wood, but the people
- 15:51Speaker 1: in the facility themselves. She was a difficult little girl,
- 15:55Speaker 1: there's no question about that, and she might have just
- 15:58Speaker 1: run somebody to the ground. Another thing they need to do.
- 16:02Speaker 1: And I'm not quite sure how populated South Dakota is
- 16:08Speaker 1: with surveillance cameras, but they need to check and probably
- 16:14Speaker 1: have at this point any surveillance cameras that will give
- 16:17Speaker 1: them a glimmer as to who might have been driving
- 16:20Speaker 1: on that road during this time frame, within an hour
- 16:24Speaker 1: or two of when this little girl disappeared. Because everything
- 16:27Speaker 1: you're saying is correct, the idea that she somehow has
- 16:32Speaker 1: been able to evade detection for this amount of time,
- 16:36Speaker 1: given the fact that multiple agencies have been looking for her,
- 16:40Speaker 1: defies credibility with me. Former FBI supervisory special Agent Jeff
- 16:45Speaker 1: Cortez Jeff, I mean, I hardly know where to start,
- 16:50Speaker 1: but I know something's not fitting together with me with
- 16:53Speaker 1: this story. Number one, Why would a supervisor leave two
- 16:57Speaker 1: children safe inside and not go after the one that's
- 17:02Speaker 1: leaving the facility? To me, that defies common sense. Yes,
- 17:07Speaker 1: the two may break out in a fight, Yes they
- 17:09Speaker 1: may get into mischief while you're gone. Of course they will. Okay,
- 17:12Speaker 1: that's just to be expected. But this is a life
- 17:15Speaker 1: threatening situation, So that's a very interesting decision. Then you've
- 17:20Speaker 1: got a delay over which they let me just say, euphemistically,
- 17:28Speaker 1: gave the wrong time. They called nine one one, and
- 17:33Speaker 1: it's really hard for me to accept a nine year
- 17:35Speaker 1: old girl can outsmart dogs and one hundred volunteers and
- 17:40Speaker 1: airplanes and the works. It's very difficult for me to
- 17:45Speaker 1: make sense. I agree with South Dakota State Senator Lenda
- 17:48Speaker 1: Santo No. I totally agree Nancy, And you can't help
- 17:52Speaker 1: but see the glaring issues right out of the gates.
- 17:56Speaker 1: I think if you had any one of those issues,
- 18:01Speaker 1: it's less problematic. In other words, if they chased her
- 18:05Speaker 1: right away, and that's why it took her took them
- 18:07Speaker 1: an hour and forty five minutes to call the police,
- 18:09Speaker 1: because they were running through the woods. Okay, I can,
- 18:12Speaker 1: I can. I can understand that. But to not chase
- 18:16Speaker 1: and not call and allow that time to lapse is
- 18:19Speaker 1: certainly an area that would would stand out to investigators.
- 18:23Speaker 1: You know, the time is of the essence and missing
- 18:25Speaker 1: persons cases, and losing that first hour and forty five
- 18:29Speaker 1: minutes is no small thing. Crime stories with Nancy Grace,
- 18:56Speaker 1: but gorgeous little girl in South Dakota, any dinner missing
- 19:01Speaker 1: to Randy Kessler for now, defense attorney, family law specialists,
- 19:05Speaker 1: the author of divorce Protect Yourself, your kids in your future.
- 19:09Speaker 1: You can find them at divorce protect dot com. Randy Kessler.
- 19:14Speaker 1: We heard South Dakota State Senator Lynda Santo say, this
- 19:19Speaker 1: little girl had been through so much, bounced from home
- 19:21Speaker 1: to home, taken in, actually adopted. Then the couple divorces.
- 19:27Speaker 1: I don't know how you somehow lose your children in
- 19:29Speaker 1: a divorce. I mean, what you just leave them at
- 19:32Speaker 1: the house with the dog and the doghouse and the
- 19:34Speaker 1: furniture you don't want. Anyway, somehow she ends up in
- 19:37Speaker 1: a children's home post divorce. That's your specialty, divorce. How
- 19:42Speaker 1: the heck did that happen? You know, It's not like
- 19:45Speaker 1: you bought a coffee maker at Target and then just
- 19:47Speaker 1: returned it because you didn't like it. Human beings with
- 19:50Speaker 1: the strangest creatures on earth. I mean, we see people
- 19:53Speaker 1: that have the reverse custody fight, No you take the kids,
- 19:55Speaker 1: No you take them. I want freedom. The kids are
- 19:58Speaker 1: ruined my life. It's crazy what people will do, but
- 20:01Speaker 1: it's me. How can that just roll off your tongue? Terrible?
- 20:05Speaker 1: When I think about the twins, Oh, I'd fight the
- 20:11Speaker 1: devil himself try to take the twins away from me.
- 20:14Speaker 1: Davy wouldn't even suggest it, No way. He wants to live. Well,
- 20:18Speaker 1: you're normal, and not everybody's normal, and there are all
- 20:21Speaker 1: sorts of Look, we're in an industry. Age of mental
- 20:24Speaker 1: health is so prevalent everywhere, mental health issues, mental dilemmas,
- 20:28Speaker 1: mental instability. It is crazy the things that I hear,
- 20:31Speaker 1: and usually I may be the first line of defense.
- 20:34Speaker 1: I actually hear people that sit in my office and
- 20:35Speaker 1: tell me, you know what. I know this sounds terrible,
- 20:38Speaker 1: but I don't want custody. And I take a gulp,
- 20:41Speaker 1: and I can either fire them and not let them
- 20:44Speaker 1: hire me, or I can try to fix it and
- 20:45Speaker 1: try to get some help and get a psychologist involved.
- 20:47Speaker 1: But you know, some people are beyond help. But I
- 20:49Speaker 1: don't understand how anybody would not say I gave birth
- 20:53Speaker 1: to this child, I'm responsible for the rest of my life.
- 20:55Speaker 1: That just it blows me away. But I do hear it,
- 20:57Speaker 1: and I do see it. Man, I don't feel that
- 20:59Speaker 1: way all. I don't feel like, oh, I'm responsible for
- 21:02Speaker 1: the twins your blessing. I feel like I can't wait
- 21:07Speaker 1: to pick him up. I can't wait to see him.
- 21:09Speaker 1: I can't wait for him to wake up. I feel
- 21:11Speaker 1: like I'm the lucky one. Doctor Ryan Fuller, we need
- 21:14Speaker 1: a shrink with me, Doctor Ryan Fuller, clinical psychologist, Executive
- 21:17Speaker 1: director of New York Behavioral Health and lecturer at NYU,
- 21:21Speaker 1: my old alma mater, Doctor Fuller, when State Senator Linda
- 21:28Speaker 1: Santo was describing what this little girl has been through,
- 21:32Speaker 1: why would that make her run away? I mean, in
- 21:35Speaker 1: my mind, it would make her want to cleave to
- 21:37Speaker 1: the home even more because she's never had a home
- 21:40Speaker 1: and now she's got one. According to what I've read,
- 21:44Speaker 1: the diagnosis that were mentioned were a reactive attachment disorder
- 21:47Speaker 1: which is associated Now wait wait, wait, wait, wait wait wait,
- 21:52Speaker 1: doctor Ryan Fuller, you are a shrink. Now you remember
- 21:55Speaker 1: you're talking to Kesther and I are just trial lawyers. Okay,
- 22:01Speaker 1: then you've got an FBI guy, you've got a state senator,
- 22:05Speaker 1: and you've got Mark Class and Lee Egan. We're not shrinks.
- 22:08Speaker 1: What did you just say? A react of what? So
- 22:11Speaker 1: it's reactive attachment disorder was one of the diagnosis, But
- 22:15Speaker 1: what is that It actually in fact touches on what
- 22:18Speaker 1: you're what you're raising, which is that the child might
- 22:21Speaker 1: have difficulty attaching and feeling close to um you know, adults,
- 22:25Speaker 1: custodial figures, parents, and things like that. And it's oftentimes
- 22:29Speaker 1: related to the kinds of tough situations that children oftentimes
- 22:36Speaker 1: put through foster care and you know, having issues with
- 22:40Speaker 1: you know, biological parents early on might have experienced and
- 22:43Speaker 1: so they don't form those stable attachments that you might
- 22:46Speaker 1: see and healthy families where a child has a sense
- 22:49Speaker 1: of security and warmth and predictability, that is where they're
- 22:52Speaker 1: getting from their their parents, where they feel that they're
- 22:55Speaker 1: they're safe, they're going to be cared for, they know
- 22:57Speaker 1: what to expect and things like that. And you know,
- 23:00Speaker 1: I can't speak to this particular child, but you know,
- 23:03Speaker 1: I can't speak to the nature of that kind of
- 23:06Speaker 1: a diagnosis, which would mean, you know, she may not
- 23:08Speaker 1: have felt attached to anyone particular adult person at the
- 23:12Speaker 1: home right and the other I think the other diagnosis
- 23:15Speaker 1: it was listed to the disruptive mood disregulation disorder, and
- 23:18Speaker 1: so that's going to be associated with issues around emotion regulation,
- 23:22Speaker 1: meaning that she's going to have intense negative emotions like
- 23:25Speaker 1: anger and other negative emotions. So you know that might
- 23:29Speaker 1: mean that basically that she's really unhappy, and so it
- 23:31Speaker 1: wouldn't be happy in that home and might think, you know,
- 23:34Speaker 1: if I go elsewhere, maybe I can find something better.
- 23:36Speaker 1: I just still find it impossible for a child to
- 23:41Speaker 1: run out without a coat, without anything on her really
- 23:45Speaker 1: except for her you know, regular clothes, into the cold,
- 23:49Speaker 1: into the snow, and then she out thoughts as all
- 23:52Speaker 1: the searchers, I want to go back to where you
- 23:54Speaker 1: start every case, the timeline and how I got s
- 24:00Speaker 1: root up at the get go. Take a listen to
- 24:02Speaker 1: kV and TV Stuart Huntington. The first hours had a
- 24:07Speaker 1: lot of moving parts and there were some conflicting early reports.
- 24:10Speaker 1: Here's what we know today. At ten forty five am Sunday,
- 24:14Speaker 1: Serenity was in the gym at the Black Hills Children's
- 24:17Speaker 1: Home with two staffers and three other kids. One kid
- 24:20Speaker 1: caused a disturbance and a staffer attended to that child.
- 24:24Speaker 1: Serenity then ran out of the building. The other staffer
- 24:27Speaker 1: stayed with the two other children. At eleven am, Serenity
- 24:31Speaker 1: is last seen walking near the home At twelve twenty
- 24:34Speaker 1: six pm and nine one one call goes out and
- 24:37Speaker 1: Pennington County Sheriff's deputy arrives at twelve forty six. By
- 24:41Speaker 1: one sixteen, several deputies are on scene and the decision
- 24:45Speaker 1: is made to bring in search and rescue. We reached
- 24:48Speaker 1: out repeatedly to the children's home today to ask about
- 24:51Speaker 1: the hour and a half between when they say she
- 24:53Speaker 1: disappeared and the call went out to nine one one.
- 24:57Speaker 1: No one would speak to us, but they did offer
- 24:59Speaker 1: this statement. Our hearts hold out hope for the safe
- 25:02Speaker 1: return of a wonderful little girl. We are grateful for
- 25:05Speaker 1: the efforts of the Pennington County Sheriff's Office and all
- 25:08Speaker 1: those who continue to search for serenity in these difficult
- 25:12Speaker 1: winter conditions. The staff the Sheriff's office had this to say.
- 25:16Speaker 1: They got things going on there, They got protocols and
- 25:19Speaker 1: stuff that they do. So I can't answer to all that,
- 25:22Speaker 1: But what I can tell you is is we responded
- 25:25Speaker 1: as quickly as we could once we got the information. Okay,
- 25:30Speaker 1: right there too, you Mark, Class Founder, Class Kids Foundation.
- 25:34Speaker 1: I've got so many problems with what I just heard. Well,
- 25:38Speaker 1: you know, it turns out that the home was working
- 25:40Speaker 1: off of a twenty year old plan. It didn't take
- 25:43Speaker 1: into account to the contingency of a little girl running away,
- 25:47Speaker 1: and they completely and totally failed in their response at
- 25:52Speaker 1: that hour and a half. That hour and a half
- 25:54Speaker 1: a lag time. Joining me right now, South Dakota State
- 25:57Speaker 1: Senator Lynn DeSanto, what does the home have to say, Senator, Well,
- 26:03Speaker 1: there's been a number of interesting things that have come
- 26:05Speaker 1: to light through this particular situation. The executive director has
- 26:10Speaker 1: announced recently that he is going to be leaving Children's
- 26:14Speaker 1: Home Society. It has also come to life that in fact,
- 26:18Speaker 1: the staff had radios that were supposed to be used
- 26:22Speaker 1: if there were this type of a situation. Unfortunately they
- 26:26Speaker 1: were on different channels and so they could not hear
- 26:30Speaker 1: each other, and so there was really no solid plan
- 26:36Speaker 1: or protocol in place. And I think that the home
- 26:41Speaker 1: is really going to have to make some changes. They
- 26:44Speaker 1: lost a child. They have a very important job keeping
- 26:50Speaker 1: children safe and they have failed at that and it
- 26:54Speaker 1: is just a tragedy all the way around. Yeah. The
- 26:57Speaker 1: other thing, South Dakota State Senator with me, alien to Santo,
- 27:01Speaker 1: who is raising the alarm to all of us regarding
- 27:06Speaker 1: Serenity Dinner, a nine year old little girl. These homes
- 27:12Speaker 1: are four children, many of them having been bounced around
- 27:18Speaker 1: from home to home. I mean, that's how you end
- 27:20Speaker 1: up in an orphanage. There's no nothing good leaves you
- 27:24Speaker 1: to an orphanage. Okay, You're not coming from a happy
- 27:28Speaker 1: home where your parents can't wait to pick you up
- 27:30Speaker 1: in the afternoon. It's not like that. And my point is, Senator,
- 27:35Speaker 1: that they need to be equipped for eventualities like this
- 27:41Speaker 1: like this to protect the child. State Senator to Santo, absolutely,
- 27:48Speaker 1: and I think it's pretty clear that that did not
- 27:51Speaker 1: happen in this situation. And you know, when you look
- 27:54Speaker 1: at Serenity, this is a little girl. You see a
- 27:57Speaker 1: little girl's face looking at you. This could be anyone's daughter,
- 28:02Speaker 1: and she deserved better than this, and she is important.
- 28:06Speaker 1: And that's why I appreciate so many people like you
- 28:10Speaker 1: getting involved in this case and caring, because it would
- 28:13Speaker 1: be easy, because of her past and because of where
- 28:15Speaker 1: she is, to not care. It would be easy for
- 28:19Speaker 1: people to disregard her as a troubled child. But this
- 28:22Speaker 1: is a little girl that is a troubled child, but
- 28:26Speaker 1: for very good reasons that are not her fault. Crime
- 28:43Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace moving ahead from that point, then
- 28:50Speaker 1: tell me you know day to day. Were you able
- 28:55Speaker 1: to work? I mean, what were you doing? This has
- 28:57Speaker 1: got to be a terrible time emotionally, I mean, don't
- 29:00Speaker 1: just go home and go on with your life. So
- 29:02Speaker 1: tell me what those following days, just how were you coping?
- 29:06Speaker 1: What were you doing? They were hell? Well, you know,
- 29:11Speaker 1: like I said, we wanted to stay out of their
- 29:13Speaker 1: way because we wanted them to be doing everything that
- 29:16Speaker 1: they can possibly be doing and not get in their way.
- 29:20Speaker 1: At the same time, our hearts just say, you know,
- 29:27Speaker 1: it was a constant up and down. We weren't working.
- 29:31Speaker 1: Brian does a lot of work from home and tried
- 29:33Speaker 1: to work, but he wasn't able to work. I just
- 29:38Speaker 1: I wasn't working at all. You were hearing State Senator
- 29:41Speaker 1: Lynda Santo speaking with Serenity's adoptive parents saying that then
- 29:47Speaker 1: the days after her disappearance, their lives have been hell.
- 29:52Speaker 1: They can't work. They also go on to state that
- 29:55Speaker 1: they thought Serenity was living with her biological dad. Now
- 30:02Speaker 1: this doesn't make any sense to me, joining me a
- 30:05Speaker 1: special guest, South Dakota State Senator Lynda Santo, she had
- 30:09Speaker 1: been in the home. How could they not know where
- 30:12Speaker 1: she was? So Nancy. The way that it worked out
- 30:16Speaker 1: is is that there was two people that adopted Serenity
- 30:19Speaker 1: and ended up getting divorced a year later, and both
- 30:23Speaker 1: then remarried other people. And at that time, the agreement
- 30:27Speaker 1: was that the adoptive father would have physical custody of
- 30:31Speaker 1: Serenity and the adoptive mother would have visitation and doing
- 30:37Speaker 1: every other weekend or some type of an arrangement like that.
- 30:41Speaker 1: At some point the communication broke down between these two
- 30:44Speaker 1: people and he actually placed her at children's home without
- 30:49Speaker 1: the knowledge of the adoptive mother. This woman was at
- 30:53Speaker 1: work one day and sees there's a missing child on
- 30:56Speaker 1: the news and looks up and it's her daughter. And
- 31:00Speaker 1: that's how she became aware that her ex husband had
- 31:04Speaker 1: placed Serenity at children's home. Okay, whoa, whoa wait right there,
- 31:10Speaker 1: State Senator to Santo, I believe everything that you just
- 31:15Speaker 1: told me in that I think that's what the adoptive
- 31:19Speaker 1: mother told you, Mark class what happened to every other weekend?
- 31:23Speaker 1: You know, Nancy, two little girls somehow outsmarted the entire
- 31:28Speaker 1: staff of this children's home, and the end result is
- 31:31Speaker 1: one of those little girls lives is very much in danger.
- 31:35Speaker 1: Now and I want a salute law enforcement because they
- 31:39Speaker 1: continue to go out into the wild and look for
- 31:43Speaker 1: this little girl. She's getting me attention now that she
- 31:46Speaker 1: deserved and did not receive for her entire life. Well
- 31:50Speaker 1: as usual, I have to agree with everything you just said.
- 31:53Speaker 1: You're right, and you know, cops and law enforcement always
- 31:57Speaker 1: get the bad rap when a cop or a sheriff
- 32:01Speaker 1: does something wrong, and they do things wrong, I get it,
- 32:04Speaker 1: But for the most part, this is who they are.
- 32:07Speaker 1: They're out there in the snow, in the wild, up
- 32:10Speaker 1: and down the side of mountains, trying to find this
- 32:12Speaker 1: little girl and they never get the credit. State Senator
- 32:17Speaker 1: to Santo, explain to me how the mom was she
- 32:20Speaker 1: not doing her visitation or had Sunity just been in
- 32:24Speaker 1: the home a day or two? I mean, how did
- 32:27Speaker 1: she not see her on the weekends like she was
- 32:29Speaker 1: supposed to. Well, there has just recently been a lawsuit
- 32:32Speaker 1: filed between these two parties, and she is claiming parental
- 32:36Speaker 1: alienation in her lawsuit that he was not responsive to
- 32:40Speaker 1: calls and that he was in fact breaking a court
- 32:43Speaker 1: order saying that she was to get visitation and he
- 32:47Speaker 1: was not allowing it. So that is going to be
- 32:49Speaker 1: hashed out in court here over the next couple of weeks. Okay,
- 32:53Speaker 1: so then we really don't know. She may have been
- 32:55Speaker 1: trying to see the daughter and was prevented from seeing
- 32:59Speaker 1: the daughter or somehow blocked from seeing the daughter. So
- 33:02Speaker 1: before I come down to you hard on her, I
- 33:04Speaker 1: don't know those facts yet, and they are not clear
- 33:07Speaker 1: to me. You're absolutely right. I don't know why the
- 33:12Speaker 1: adopted dad put her in this home. Somebody put her
- 33:15Speaker 1: in the home. I know that much. And now she's gone, Nancy,
- 33:19Speaker 1: go ahead. A little bit of a little bit of
- 33:21Speaker 1: insight that has been brought to light, as the adopted
- 33:24Speaker 1: father had recently remarried a woman, and there's reports that
- 33:29Speaker 1: there was some very difficult and strained relationships that were
- 33:34Speaker 1: occurring between Serenity and the new mother, the new wife,
- 33:39Speaker 1: and there actually had been reports made by Serenity of
- 33:44Speaker 1: some mistreatment to her by the new wife, and so
- 33:48Speaker 1: that certainly seems to be a factor in the mix
- 33:51Speaker 1: on why that adopted father made the decision to take
- 33:55Speaker 1: her to Children's home and place her there. I think
- 33:57Speaker 1: I would have placed any wife add on the street
- 34:00Speaker 1: before I would place a child in home. But I
- 34:04Speaker 1: don't know what he was thinking. Maybe he thought he
- 34:07Speaker 1: was doing the best thing for the child. I don't
- 34:10Speaker 1: know why the mother wasn't seeing her. All that aside,
- 34:14Speaker 1: I know that she's gone, and I know the search
- 34:17Speaker 1: is on. Take a listen to this. Yesday night, authorities
- 34:20Speaker 1: moved the search from a rescue to a recovery effort.
- 34:24Speaker 1: The Pennington County Sheriff's Office says if Serenity has been
- 34:27Speaker 1: outside this entire time, it's unlikely she survived. However, they
- 34:32Speaker 1: have not ruled out the possibility that she could still
- 34:34Speaker 1: be alive in a warm shelter or was picked up
- 34:37Speaker 1: by someone. More than one hundred people helped in the
- 34:39Speaker 1: search for Serenity di Nard on Tuesday, but now only
- 34:43Speaker 1: people from the Paignton County Sheriff's Office remain in the area.
- 34:47Speaker 1: We still have deputies up there, we still are manning
- 34:50Speaker 1: our command post, but as far as ground search people
- 34:55Speaker 1: that are back in the woods, we don't have them
- 34:58Speaker 1: Folks right now doing that. We suspended that at approximately
- 35:03Speaker 1: four or five o'clock yesterday. The Sheriff's office says it's
- 35:06Speaker 1: still trying to figure out all the details of what
- 35:08Speaker 1: happened the morning Serenity disappeared. We have five investigators that
- 35:13Speaker 1: are assigned to this that this is all they're doing,
- 35:16Speaker 1: is working every lead, every possibility. Again, they continue to
- 35:20Speaker 1: interview staff and other children in the home and family
- 35:24Speaker 1: and neighbors, anybody that might have possibly been on that road.
- 35:28Speaker 1: Hearing our Free Kota's Alexia de Villa of the search
- 35:32Speaker 1: is on for this little girl. To Jeff Gretz, a
- 35:36Speaker 1: former FBI supervisory special agent, what should the search be now,
- 35:41Speaker 1: because I've never been convinced she was in those still
- 35:44Speaker 1: in those woods, you know, I think in terms of
- 35:48Speaker 1: what the investigators are going to be focusing on now,
- 35:51Speaker 1: it's going to be you know, a lot of what
- 35:52Speaker 1: you're doing keeping this story in the news, tickle the
- 35:56Speaker 1: complaint line, so to speak, putting our photo out there,
- 36:00Speaker 1: covering multiple avenues, one obviously searching the woods and continuing
- 36:05Speaker 1: to search, while at the same time chasing down other leads,
- 36:10Speaker 1: you know, identifying sex offenders in the area that may
- 36:12Speaker 1: have a propensity towards young children, interviewing, interviewing all of them,
- 36:17Speaker 1: exhausting those leads, answering any answered questions to date related
- 36:22Speaker 1: to the parents, the children's center, local and regional sex
- 36:27Speaker 1: offenders locking down and identifying any CCTV in the area.
- 36:34Speaker 1: You know, I think one of the biggest takeaways from
- 36:36Speaker 1: this story is that, you know, emergency preparedness has has
- 36:39Speaker 1: to be more than words on a page. Policies, procedures.
- 36:42Speaker 1: They need to be updated reviewed, staff need to train,
- 36:46Speaker 1: they need to rehearse. This stuff has to stay up
- 36:49Speaker 1: to date so that situations like this don't happen in
- 36:51Speaker 1: the future. Man, you're telling it, and I guarantee you
- 36:53Speaker 1: South Dakota State Center to LANDA. Santo is all over
- 36:56Speaker 1: that Mark Class Founder, Class Kids Foundation. What now? What
- 37:01Speaker 1: should they be doing? This is your specialty. If I
- 37:04Speaker 1: can add absolutely nothing to what the special agent just said,
- 37:07Speaker 1: he completely covered the next steps, the steps that have
- 37:11Speaker 1: been taken in the next steps. And let's just hope
- 37:14Speaker 1: law enforcement is able to somehow find this little girl
- 37:17Speaker 1: and that maybe the public can stay vigilant. Somebody must
- 37:21Speaker 1: know something, somebody might know something, and hopefully they'll come
- 37:24Speaker 1: forward in this case can be resolved. Nancy Joehead, if
- 37:27Speaker 1: you know Warren Jeffs, he is the polygamous fact that
- 37:32Speaker 1: you know was arrested for marrying off twelve and thirteen
- 37:35Speaker 1: year old little girls. You know, this little girl is
- 37:38Speaker 1: missing within the vicinity of that place, and I would
- 37:42Speaker 1: like to see that looked at further as an angle.
- 37:45Speaker 1: And so far they've been told, I've been told they've
- 37:48Speaker 1: been blocked. So this is a very unusual situation. We
- 37:54Speaker 1: stand by as just as unfolds and the search for
- 37:57Speaker 1: nine year old Serenity goes on. If you have information
- 38:01Speaker 1: on Serenity, please dial six zero five three nine four
- 38:06Speaker 1: six one one five repeat six zero five three nine
- 38:11Speaker 1: four six one one five Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off,
- 38:17Speaker 1: goodbye friend,