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- 0:16Speaker 2: Milford Asset Management Luke. Michael Luke is with US high Michael.
- 0:21Speaker 3: Hey ever, how's it going you?
- 0:22Speaker 2: Very good?
- 0:22Speaker 3: Thank you?
- 0:23Speaker 2: Now, see the software shares have been hammered overnight in
- 0:25Speaker 2: the US and then locally today. What's been going on?
- 0:28Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a tough day and a month early
- 0:30Speaker 3: for the software sector. Now the falls today follow and Froperk,
- 0:34Speaker 3: the company behind the AI model, Claud releasing new AI tools,
- 0:38Speaker 3: including a legal plug and aimed at automating some legal work.
- 0:42Speaker 3: This saw companies like Thompson Reuters, which is a major
- 0:45Speaker 3: legal software provider, fall fifteen percent overnight. All other software
- 0:49Speaker 3: companies like Salesforce selves foul seven percent, and locally, we
- 0:53Speaker 3: weren't spared either of zero share price falling fifteen percent today.
- 0:57Speaker 3: The share price of many of these software companies have
- 1:00Speaker 3: now fallen up to forty percent over the past few months,
- 1:03Speaker 3: which is a pretty staggering move.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Really, why is it that the software companies have fallen
- 1:07Speaker 2: so much? Reas because I thought AI was supposed to
- 1:09Speaker 2: be good for these businesses.
- 1:12Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really interesting shift that we've seen in
- 1:14Speaker 3: and investor sentiments. Where last year many of these software
- 1:18Speaker 3: companies were actually meant to be AI beneficiaries, using AI
- 1:21Speaker 3: to make writing code cheaper as well as selling new
- 1:24Speaker 3: features to their customers. Well, now they're directly in the
- 1:27Speaker 3: firing line where there's a big growing debate over whether
- 1:30Speaker 3: AI coding assistance likechlored code will actually disrupt software and
- 1:35Speaker 3: actually enable new competitors, including potentially allowing companies to write
- 1:40Speaker 3: their own software internally instead of buying it from existing providers.
- 1:44Speaker 3: So the narrative is completely flipped from software companies being
- 1:47Speaker 3: a beneficiary to now being potential victims.
- 1:50Speaker 2: Do you think AI will actually disrupt these software businesses?
- 1:54Speaker 3: Lurk Well, I think a big part of the reason
- 1:56Speaker 3: these software companies have fallen so much is that it's
- 1:59Speaker 3: actually a really hard narrative to complete completely disprove, where
- 2:03Speaker 3: the question is how good are these AI tools going
- 2:06Speaker 3: to be in the future, and protecting the future is hard. Now.
- 2:10Speaker 3: Some of these software companies were also trading at very
- 2:12Speaker 3: high valuations previously, so they will be impacted by changes
- 2:16Speaker 3: and long term growth assumptions. But there are a few
- 2:19Speaker 3: things that are aware. Remembering, Firstly, when you're buying software
- 2:23Speaker 3: from the likes of a zero or Salesforce, you're not
- 2:26Speaker 3: just buying the code. You're getting a company to make
- 2:28Speaker 3: it run for you, stay updated, maintain high security, and
- 2:32Speaker 3: often deliver a number of data integrations and compliance features
- 2:36Speaker 3: which can be really difficult to replicate. Secondly, it can
- 2:40Speaker 3: also be very painful to switch software providers when it
- 2:43Speaker 3: comes to moving all your data, your workflows, your customer integrations,
- 2:47Speaker 3: as well as learning to use the new system. So
- 2:50Speaker 3: there has to be a really compelling reason to shift
- 2:52Speaker 3: if you're existing software is working pretty well and not
- 2:55Speaker 3: breaking the bank. That said, these tools like Claude will
- 2:59Speaker 3: keep getting better and could enable more competition over time.
- 3:03Speaker 2: Now, is this do you think than a buying opportunity?
- 3:06Speaker 3: That's the big question. And then we have seen a
- 3:09Speaker 3: big reaction and likely a very big overreaction for a
- 3:13Speaker 3: number of companies out there. So there will be some
- 3:15Speaker 3: great opportunities, but investors there need to be selective as
- 3:19Speaker 3: there likely will be some companies disrupted, even if it's
- 3:22Speaker 3: just as slowdown and growth, and we've seen pretty large
- 3:25Speaker 3: negative share price reactions to recent software company results. Like
- 3:29Speaker 3: Microsoft and SAP with growth missed investor expectations. So it's
- 3:34Speaker 3: all about finding the right investment. Where the shear marketers
- 3:37Speaker 3: may be overreacted to the risks of AI disruption, We're
- 3:40Speaker 3: trying to avoid those companies where they actually are really risks,
- 3:44Speaker 3: and maybe those risks are still underpriced.
- 3:46Speaker 2: Michael, it's good to talk to you. Thanks for running
- 3:48Speaker 2: us through at Michael Luke, NOFIT Asset Management.
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