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Tammy Hembrow & Reece Hawkins Reunite · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Tammy Hembrough
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  Speaker 1: baits her followers with Reese Hawkins' reunion, Sarah's Day's big
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  Speaker 1: investment and Mitch Orville's controversial water cleanse. But first, our
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  Speaker 1: deep dive on Freely the Banana Girl dropped on Friday, Kate,
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  Speaker 1: and it's really sparked some nostalgia amongst our listeners. Nostalgia
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  Speaker 1: or trauma, I'm not sure, because it seems like a
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  Speaker 1: lot of you actually did the raw till four diet,
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  Speaker 1: I feel for you. I was more in team Kayla
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  Speaker 1: at the time. I was doing the bikini body guide.
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  Speaker 1: It cracks me up because a lot of people were
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  Speaker 1: questioning Freely's potassium levels after we shared that she had
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  Speaker 1: 51 bananas I went back and watched a video of
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  Speaker 1: her eating said 51 bananas. Her stomach was so bloated.
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  Speaker 1: She did do a little belly dance after though. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I struggled to eat one banana on a good day
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  Speaker 1: because I get the ick factor from bananas quite quickly.
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine having to smash 50. Oh, it looked
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  Speaker 1: so disgusting. I did love it because one of our
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  Speaker 1: OG listeners, Rodney, he said that he was going to
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  Speaker 1: sit down and listen to the episode with Maccas and
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  Speaker 1: Tim Tams, which I think was a really good call.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds delicious.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, part two of that deep dive on Freely the
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  Speaker 1: Banana Girl drops this Friday. I'm very excited for that one.
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  Speaker 1: We get more into Durian Ryder, of course, her infamous ex-partner.
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  Speaker 1: I'll get my Maccas and Tim Tams ready for that one.
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  Speaker 1: And if you are looking for more Outspoken content, we
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  Speaker 1: do drop a subscriber episode on Thursdays. Yes, so that
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  Speaker 1: show is basically an extension of this show where we
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  Speaker 1: drop extra influencer segments. And because it's behind a paywall,
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  Speaker 1: we go a little bit rogue, a bit more unfiltered,
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  Speaker 1: I'd say. In full transparency, I have no idea what
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  Speaker 1: is going on today. All I've been told is I
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  Speaker 1: have to be home between the hours of 12 and
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  Speaker 1: 1 because Hiro are coming to my house to surprise me.
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  Speaker 1: Details about Sarah's Day's investment in electrolyte brand Hyro have
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  Speaker 1: emerged in an article in Forbes. Back in February, the
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  Speaker 1: fitness influencer announced she was an investor in the Australian startup.
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  Speaker 1: The revelation came seven months after she'd been spruiking the
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  Speaker 1: brand to her 1 million followers without disclosing the partnership.
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  Speaker 1: So it turns out Sarah is one of five public
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  Speaker 1: figures who have equity in the brand. So there's a
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  Speaker 1: couple of athletes on board, as well as Dan Churchill
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  Speaker 1: from MasterChef and a former associate of Wim Hof. So
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  Speaker 1: the husband and wife co-founders behind Hiro went into great
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  Speaker 1: detail about the strategy behind selecting influencers like Sarah. So
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  Speaker 1: Taylor Bird said, the angle we took is that we
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  Speaker 1: see that influencer marketing these days is quite saturated and transient.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't want an influencer program that was transactional. We
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  Speaker 1: wanted them to have actual skin in the game because
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  Speaker 1: we think that consumers just see straight through people pushing
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  Speaker 1: a product because so many people do it. But if
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  Speaker 1: they were actually to invest their own money, then the
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  Speaker 1: consumer sees real alignment and that they actually believe in it.
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  Speaker 1: She went on to say, having them put their own
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  Speaker 1: money in changes the way that they show up and
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  Speaker 1: get behind the product. I think it is a really
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  Speaker 1: good strategy because people are seeing through a lot of
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  Speaker 1: influencer deals and she's right. You are more likely, if
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  Speaker 1: you are an influencer, to be spruiking it in even
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  Speaker 1: more of an organic way to ensure that you are
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  Speaker 1: getting your subscribers invested in that brand. Well, there's a
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  Speaker 1: payday at the end of it. So if this brand
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  Speaker 1: takes off, Sarah's Day is going to make a lot
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  Speaker 1: of money. And according to Hiro's owners, they're building a
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  Speaker 1: $ 100 million brand. So of course, you're going to be
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  Speaker 1: implementing this new product into your day-to-day life. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Sarah's Day did it really well with Tropica, which is
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  Speaker 1: a supplement company. She even had her own product, Body Bloom,
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  Speaker 1: with it. She recently cut ties with them and it
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  Speaker 1: seemed like it got a little bit nasty. So it
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  Speaker 1: made sense that Sarah would align herself with another drinks company.
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  Speaker 1: But I think this is a smarter move. Oh, it
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  Speaker 1: totally is. And she's done a good job at pushing
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  Speaker 1: their branding. Like, for example, she's just been walking around
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  Speaker 1: with this high row drink bottle. And I'm like, that
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  Speaker 1: actually looks so cool. And she's been talking a lot
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  Speaker 1: about their new flavor. She's been teasing that with her followers. Well,
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  Speaker 1: funny you say that because it clearly is black current
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  Speaker 1: and she's been asking her followers to guess it. And
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  Speaker 1: it's quite awkward because if you go on the website,
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  Speaker 1: the product is already up there saying it's black current. Oh, shit.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, they've sort of missed the mark there a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. But whatever you think about Sarah's day, I
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  Speaker 1: do think it's been a clever move by this company
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  Speaker 1: to get her on board to spruik it. It's pretty
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  Speaker 1: interesting because Hyro are currently on round two of capital raising.
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  Speaker 1: The first time they did it, they raised a million
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  Speaker 1: dollars with a quarter of it coming from influencers. So
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  Speaker 1: you can do your sums about how much Sarah's Day
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  Speaker 1: would have put in. This time around, they're trying to
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  Speaker 1: raise another million to fund expansion into the US. And
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  Speaker 1: they've partnered with other drink company founders. So they're moving
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  Speaker 1: away from influencers. They've got on board a couple of
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  Speaker 1: brands who have actually sold their brand to Coca-Cola. So
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  Speaker 1: I think we could be seeing big things from this
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  Speaker 1: high row. I'm just going to say goodnight. What do
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  Speaker 1: you mean? I just, can I say goodnight to you?
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 1: I'm the mother of your children. Tammy Hembrough almost broke
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  Speaker 1: the internet over the weekend when she posted a TikTok
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  Speaker 1: with her ex-fiancé and baby daddy, Rhys Hawkins. The shock
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  Speaker 1: appearance came amid reports that Tammy has allegedly threatened to
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  Speaker 1: sue her ex-husband, Matt Zukowski, for defamation. Now, Kate, we
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  Speaker 1: went one episode without talking about Tammy, but she's back
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  Speaker 1: on Outspoken in a big way. Yes, I am desperate
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  Speaker 1: to talk about this video because it stopped me in
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  Speaker 1: my tracks and left me asking so many questions. So
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  Speaker 1: for those who haven't seen it, on Saturday night, Tammy
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  Speaker 1: casually uploaded a video alongside Rhys Hawkins and their two children.
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  Speaker 1: So she captioned the video, whole gangs here. And in
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  Speaker 1: the video, Rhys is bear hugging their daughter Saskia from
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  Speaker 1: behind while Tammy snuggles into her son, Wolf. There is
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  Speaker 1: a moment where it appears like Tammy and Reese gaze
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  Speaker 1: at each other before Tammy starts laughing and grabs Reese's shoulder.
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  Speaker 1: Reese kind of retreats from the frame, shaking his head.
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  Speaker 1: This video sent the internet into a frenzy. At the
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  Speaker 1: time of recording, it's had 8.5 million views. The reason
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  Speaker 1: why the internet went nuts is because ever since Reese
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  Speaker 1: and Tammy ended their engagement in 2018, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people have wanted to see them back together, me for
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  Speaker 1: one of them. But I don't understand after knowing everything
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  Speaker 1: that's gone on between Reese and Tammy and how messy
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  Speaker 1: it was, why would you want them back together? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the only thing I can think of is that they
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  Speaker 1: look really good together. I mean, that's a big part
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  Speaker 1: of it. They were major couple goals in the early
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  Speaker 1: 2010s and they really shocked everyone when they broke up.
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  Speaker 1: And while things were initially messy, I mean, they had
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  Speaker 1: that public fight over a Range Rover, not to mention
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  Speaker 1: the beef between Tammy and Reese's new girlfriend, London Gowan.
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  Speaker 1: By 2020, things seemed back on track. Tammy revealed in
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  Speaker 1: a vlog that they were friends. And since then, they've
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  Speaker 1: really been co-parenting goals. People have loved seeing them back
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  Speaker 1: together at their kids' birthday parties. I mean, that's the
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  Speaker 1: other thing. The only reason I'd also want to see
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  Speaker 1: them back together is for the kids. But it's interesting
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  Speaker 1: that Tammy said the whole gang's back together, yet Posey
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  Speaker 1: wasn't in the video. Yeah, I found that a little
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  Speaker 1: bit awkward. But of course, Posey is Matt Poole's daughter,
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  Speaker 1: so it makes sense. And also, maybe Matt has told
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  Speaker 1: Tammy not to use Posey in this type of content
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  Speaker 1: because He did fire off a message about our deep
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  Speaker 1: dive series. He didn't seem happy that we were promoting that.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe he's told her, look, I don't want my
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  Speaker 1: daughter in these kind of clickbait kind of TikToks. Or
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  Speaker 1: she could have just been with her dad that weekend
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  Speaker 1: and she wasn't there to be in the video. Now,
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  Speaker 1: these calls for Tammy and Rhys to reunite have really
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  Speaker 1: strengthened since Tammy announced she was divorcing Matt Sikowsky. I'd
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  Speaker 1: also like to take a little bit of claim for
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  Speaker 1: it because In releasing our deep dives on Tammy, I
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  Speaker 1: think a lot of people were shipping Reese and Tammy
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  Speaker 1: back together. Everyone's saying, we know it's toxic, but we'd
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  Speaker 1: like to see them back together. Now, Tammy added fuel
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  Speaker 1: to that fire a couple of weeks ago when she
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  Speaker 1: shared a video of her prank calling Reese as part
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  Speaker 1: of that goodnight TikTok trend. So when Tammy dropped this
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  Speaker 1: video on Saturday, it seemed like she knew what she
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  Speaker 1: was doing and the internet reacted at fever pitch. One
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  Speaker 1: follower wrote, girl, the way we wouldn't even be mad
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  Speaker 1: at you. That comment got over 63,000 likes and Tammy replied,
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  Speaker 1: ha ha, we're just friends with a love heart. Someone
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  Speaker 1: else wrote, everybody act normal. Don't scare them. And that
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  Speaker 1: comment got 42,000 likes and Tammy replied, ha ha ha.
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  Speaker 1: Another person replied, 2016 me cannot handle this. To which
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  Speaker 1: Tammy replied, crying faces. So she was really playing it
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  Speaker 1: up in the comments. But it turns out Reese is
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  Speaker 1: actually on the Gold Coast to celebrate his daughter Saskia's
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  Speaker 1: ninth birthday. Yeah. So he, of course, lives in Bali.
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  Speaker 1: So he doesn't really see the kids that often, which
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  Speaker 1: is probably why everyone gets so excited when they see
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  Speaker 1: Tammy and Reese in the same city. Over the last
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  Speaker 1: couple of years, he has been in attendance at their
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  Speaker 1: birthday parties. Interestingly though, he wasn't at Wolf's birthday party
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  Speaker 1: this year. And that was of course the birthday that
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  Speaker 1: made alarm bells start ringing. because Matt Sikowsky wasn't at it.
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  Speaker 1: And I felt really sad because it seemed like Rhys
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  Speaker 1: also wasn't there. So I don't know what was going
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  Speaker 1: on there. Yeah. I mean, I just find it weird though,
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  Speaker 1: that Rhys still lives in Bali when he's got kids
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  Speaker 1: on the Gold Coast. Well, he's also got a kid
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  Speaker 1: in the US with London going. So those poor kids,
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  Speaker 1: I feel very sorry for them. Yeah. Well, Rhys and
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  Speaker 1: Tammy seemed to have a lot of fun when they
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  Speaker 1: were together because they took the kids to a theme park.
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  Speaker 1: And interestingly, Tammy posted an Instagram story wearing Reese's jacket,
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  Speaker 1: but that ended up getting deleted. Yeah. So it seems
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  Speaker 1: like an influencer called Liv Kelly is here spoiling our
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  Speaker 1: fun because an hour after Tammy posted her TikTok with Reese,
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  Speaker 1: Liv Kelly entered the chat. So she's a fitness influencer.
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  Speaker 1: She's also from the Gold Coast and she's got around
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  Speaker 1: 100,000 followers on Instagram and 30,000 on TikTok. And over
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  Speaker 1: the last week or so, rumors have been swirling that
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  Speaker 1: she's dating Reese Hawkins. So She's been holidaying in Bali
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  Speaker 1: and she shared a snap of her hugging a dog
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  Speaker 1: that looked a lot like Reese's Golden Retriever. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: she also soft launched him really last week because she
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  Speaker 1: put up this TikTok and there was a really quick
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  Speaker 1: shot of a man hugging her from behind and it
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  Speaker 1: was Reese. Yeah, so she's been dropping clues here and there.
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  Speaker 1: They've been spotted at a lot of the same locations
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  Speaker 1: in Bali posting Instagram stories. Now Liv decided to hard
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  Speaker 1: launch this relationship with Reese off the back of Tammy's
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  Speaker 1: viral video with him. So it seems like she was
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  Speaker 1: really stamping her authority and saying, he's mine. Yeah, she
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  Speaker 1: was claiming him. I mean, how pissed off would you
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  Speaker 1: be if you were Liv though? I mean, she's obviously
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  Speaker 1: just started this new relationship with Rhys and then this
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  Speaker 1: video goes viral of him with his ex. Well, he
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  Speaker 1: was really playing into it. He was completely complicit in it.
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  Speaker 1: He knew what was going to happen. It's not like
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  Speaker 1: She filmed him without him knowing. But at the end,
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  Speaker 1: he kind of shakes his head as in to be like, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: we're just joking. This isn't, we're not part of it.
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  Speaker 1: But it was kind of flirty. Oh, it was very flirty.
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  Speaker 1: It seemed like there was something there between them. There
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  Speaker 1: was a spark. And I can see why Liv has
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  Speaker 1: gone and uploaded this TikTok. So for those who haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen it, she's sitting at a table in a cafe
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  Speaker 1: with her phone propped up and Rhys comes into the
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  Speaker 1: shot and puts a cup down in front of Liv.
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  Speaker 1: He then kisses and cuddles her. You can't really see
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  Speaker 1: his face, but it's obviously him. He's actually wearing the
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  Speaker 1: same hat he was wearing in the video with Tammy,
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  Speaker 1: funnily enough. And Liv captioned the video, peppermint tea, anyone.
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  Speaker 1: And the song lyrics played, I said, baby, how you
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  Speaker 1: fuck with my head. There's a lot to unpack there.
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  Speaker 1: Bit of an Easter egg.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm guessing she's saying, well, the tea is, he's
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  Speaker 1: actually with me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And Tammy, pipe down. I wonder how Rhys feels about it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, as you said, he was complicit in the video,
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  Speaker 1: but has he had to come back with this tail
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  Speaker 1: between his leg to Liv and be like, oh, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know what was going on. The fact that Tammy
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  Speaker 1: quickly deleted the story of her wearing Rhys's jacket suggests
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  Speaker 1: that Liv was not happy with the whole situation. I
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  Speaker 1: don't blame her. I wouldn't be happy with it either.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's clear Tammy is trying to get back
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  Speaker 1: at Matt Zukowski. Perhaps Rhys is playing along with it
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  Speaker 1: because he thought Matt was a douche. I mean, they
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  Speaker 1: had that holiday together with the kids in Bali. It
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  Speaker 1: seemed like they were all playing happy families, but I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he was involved in that prank call video as well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but maybe he, Rhys at the time, probably he would
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  Speaker 1: have felt uncomfortable having this new guy looking after his children. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it kind of signals to me that potentially Matt Sikowsky
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  Speaker 1: felt a little bit funny about Rhys being around and
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  Speaker 1: that's why Tammy's really trying to play it off. It
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  Speaker 1: seems like Tammy isn't the only one trying to get
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  Speaker 1: back at her ex though because Liv Kelly made headlines
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  Speaker 1: recently when she uploaded a TikTok that seemed to be
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  Speaker 1: directed at her ex. So she used to date Bulldogs
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  Speaker 1: footballer Jamara Ugel-Hagan. And she wrote in a video, when
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  Speaker 1: you kept silent to protect them, but found out what
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  Speaker 1: they were actually doing when you weren't there, their projections
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  Speaker 1: are their actions. She also replied to some comments saying,
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  Speaker 1: we love a narcissist and intuition was right all along.
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  Speaker 1: So for background, Jamara has been absent from the Bulldogs
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  Speaker 1: this season for personal reasons. And the couple broke up
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  Speaker 1: around a year ago. They actually got together in 2022
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  Speaker 1: after Jamara publicly broke up with Mia Favola. Oh, he
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  Speaker 1: dated Mia.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I thought I recognized him in news articles. And Liv
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  Speaker 1: isn't a stranger to going off on social media. In 2022,
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  Speaker 1: before she started dating Jamara- She actually went viral for
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  Speaker 1: sharing a video of her receiving a DM from this
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  Speaker 1: Brazilian footballer. He's some big superstar. I actually am not
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  Speaker 1: familiar with his name, but obviously a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: are because the video went absolutely viral and that's how
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  Speaker 1: she began building a larger following. Well, she obviously knows
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  Speaker 1: how social media works and maybe that's why she put
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  Speaker 1: up that video with Reese and the Peppermint Tea. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: using a bit of traction from Tammy's viral video. Well,
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  Speaker 1: why not? I mean- If you're going to have your
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  Speaker 1: boyfriend be used as a bit of a prop, you
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  Speaker 1: may as well use him as well in your own video.
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  Speaker 1: The only person getting used here is Rhys Hawkins. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel that sorry for him. No, neither. Now,
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday, Tammy appeared on her Instagram story acting all
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  Speaker 1: innocent and shutting down these rumours that she was getting
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  Speaker 1: back with Rhys Hawkins. This is what she said. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: I think we all just need a... I think we
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  Speaker 1: all just need to calm down. You guys are freaking
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  Speaker 1: me out, okay?
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  Speaker 2: You're freaking me out.
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  Speaker 1: We just need to all take a second and relax.
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  Speaker 2: It's not that.
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  Speaker 3: Crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Like I have got two kids with the man. We're friends.
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  Speaker 2: We get along.
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  Speaker 1: It's like relax. Let's relax. No, I can't imagine people
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  Speaker 1: jumping to this conclusion whatsoever. I know. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you guys are freaking me out. How would you ever
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  Speaker 1: come to this conclusion? Well, you literally baited the whole
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  Speaker 1: thing and then stoked the flames in the comments. You
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  Speaker 1: literally wrote the gangs back together. Tammy, you knew what
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  Speaker 1: you were doing. Yeah, I mean, and I loved it. Yeah. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I lapped it up. Please keep doing it. It's so entertaining.
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  Speaker 1: What really threw me is after she shared this story,
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  Speaker 1: she then proceeded to share more stories while eating pickled
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  Speaker 1: garlic straight from a jar. I'm like, what the hell
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  Speaker 1: is going on? I saw influencer updates how you shared
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  Speaker 1: this post and it was so sweet because they wrote, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe I'll have to try it. It looks
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  Speaker 1: quite nice. I mean, I love garlic. Well, all I
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  Speaker 1: could think was she's not dating anyone eating garlic from
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  Speaker 1: a jar. Like you're not going to be kissing someone
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  Speaker 1: eating garlic, are you? No, this is just reminding me
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  Speaker 1: of Anastasia Kingsnorth, the UK influencer eating onions from a jar,
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  Speaker 1: like pickled onions. See, I can understand onions more garlic. Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe she's sick. True, but she did say she just
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: loves it. Don't they use garlic to ward off evil
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: spirits or something? Isn't that something you put around your house,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: garlic cloves? Maybe she's getting the ghost of Matt Sikowsky
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: out of her house. Well, it does seem like things
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: are getting pretty nasty between her and Matt Sikowsky because-
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Journalist Megan Passetto broke the news on her podcast so
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: dramatic that Tammy has allegedly threatened to sue Matt Sikowsky
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: for defamation. I'm not surprised after some of the emails
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: that have been flying into people's inboxes like our own
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: from some of his friends. Some of the claims they
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: have been making have been absolutely outrageous. Yeah, well, it's
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: interesting because the revelations came off the back of Megan
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Passetto allegedly receiving explosive claims about Tammy from none other than,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: as you said, Matt's friends. She was unable to repeat
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: the claims on her podcast as they were so defamatory,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: but revealed team Matt is blaming Tammy for the breakup.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: I just don't understand why Matt's friends, and Megan even
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: said this on the podcast, Why are they going to
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: her to air these claims? Because it's obvious that Megan
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: has had beef with Matt after his sort of deplorable
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: actions with Nova. Well, it just shows to me how
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: desperate they are and that no one is picking up
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: on their claims because no one's going to touch it
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: with a 10-foot pole. So they maybe thought, oh, come on,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: we'll try Megan. Well, it's almost like they were trying
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: to set Megan up almost. Oh, well, I wouldn't be surprised.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: To do their dirty work basically. Yeah, well, for those
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: who aren't familiar with the whole story between Matt and Megan,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: back in November– Megan accused Matt of getting her fired
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: from her podcast network after she aired an expose on
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Matt in the lead up to the wedding with Tammy.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Since then, Megan has teamed up with Matt's ex Jen
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Ward to share even more details about Matt. I'm living
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: for that partnership, by the way. Yeah. So it makes
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: it even more strange that Matt went and followed so
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: dramatic on Instagram and then all of his friends suddenly
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: DM'd Megan all of these messages. Yeah. Well, if I
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: was team Tammy, I'd be getting in touch with Megan. Well, yeah.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, Megan thinks it's all a bit of an
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: orchestrated smear campaign for Matt to win public sympathy back,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: and I tend to agree that it appears that way. Yeah,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like when you sling enough mud, sometimes
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: some of it sticks, and it seems to me that's
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: what Team Matt is trying to do. Now, despite not
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: being able to divulge what she actually received from Team Matt,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Megan shared some juicy details on an apparent blow-up between
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Tammy and Matt at a friend's wedding in February. So
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: allegedly one of Matt's mutual friends told Megan that Tammy
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: and Matt fought all day at this friend's wedding and
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: it was apparently so bad that they were having a
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: loud fight. when the bride walked down the aisle and
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: it ruined the day. Can you imagine being a guest
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: at this thing? Like if you didn't know Tammy and Matt,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: there probably were a lot of whispers being like, oh
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: my God, they're here.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: And to see them fighting like that, like how pissed
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: would you be as the bride? You're just like, can
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: you just shut up? This isn't about you. But as
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: a wedding guest, like not to be rude, but weddings
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: can kind of get a little bit boring. So imagine
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: how entertaining that would have been like looking at them
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: and saying, what are they talking about? And then later
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: seeing all the posts on socials, making them look like
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: they're the happiest couple going around. Yeah. To wrap things
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: up on Tammy Hembrough, we have spoken at length about
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: her sister's pre-wedding appearance on Matt's podcast, Where's Your Head At?
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: For those who missed it, Tammy's sisters, Emily and Amy,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: absolutely owned Matt on his own podcast. Sorry, I've got
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: to interrupt. I cannot, every time someone says, where's your
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: head at? I just keep getting Megan Posteto calling it,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: where's your dick at? Oh, that was so funny. That
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: was classic. So anyway, on this podcast, they called Matt
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: an immature baby. They questioned whether he was ready to
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: get married. They made it abundantly clear that they hated
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: his guts basically and didn't want him marrying Tammy. Anyway,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Emily has opened up about that appearance on Instagram. So
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: she replied to a comment on Tammy's reel that said
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: something about her sisters trying to warn her. And Emily
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: wrote back, that was me being nice and unfiltered. Sorry.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Fuck me, can you imagine her behind closed doors? Jeez,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I would love to hear them actually air their true
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: thoughts on Matt then. Yeah, please, don't hold back. You
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: don't have to be nice. If you would like to
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: come on Outspoken, the podcast, slide into our DMs. Yep,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: as sisters, we totally get it. We'd be happy to
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: have you on.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, I just wanted to jump on here and clear
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: a few things up. I am not Hulk Hogan's daughter.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Brooke Hogan has been forced to set the record straight
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: that she's not Hulk Hogan's daughter. The wrestling legend sadly
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: passed away last week, leading to an outpouring of sympathy. However,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Mourners got confused when paying their respects to his daughter,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: accidentally contacting Brooke, who shares the same name. They've never
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: really put two and two together and thought that Brooke
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Hogan was Hulk Hogan's daughter. I mean, firstly, she's Australian,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: not American. No, I mean, I think where the confusion
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: is stemming from is that Hulk's daughter is a similar
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: age to the Aussie Brooke Hogan. They're both mid-30s. And
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: also they've got blonde hair. I mean, that's really where
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: the similarities end.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: And it seems like the Aussie Brooke Hogan has been
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: on the end of a bit of abuse from Hulk
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Hogan supporters because recently Hulk Hogan's son-in-law who was married
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: to Brooke Hogan came out saying that his wife had
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: to put up with a lot being Hulk Hogan's daughter
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: and They were apparently estranged and she actually removed herself
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: from his will two years ago. So I'm guessing people
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: aren't happy that the son-in-law's come out and saying all
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: of this. Well, it seems that that's what sparked Aussie
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Brooke to come out and say something. And she revealed
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: that she and Hulk's daughter Brooke had formed an Instagram
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: friendship after being confused for one another over the last
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: few years. And she told her followers that she'd been
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: receiving a lot of negative messages and comments accusing her
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: of trying to utilize her name to gain popularity for herself.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Let's have a listen to what she said.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to clarify. Brooke Hogan is my name
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: from birth. It's what I was given when I was born.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: It's what I still use because it's what I've used
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: my entire life from a professional point of view.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Pitt is my married name.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: That's why that's in my Instagram. And in no way,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: shape or form am I trying to use Hulk Hogan's
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: family to benefit myself. So if you are here looking
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: for Hulk Hogan's daughter, you're not in the right place.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Please don't come at me because you haven't found the
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: right person. Maybe just jump online, do a bit of
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: a Google and find her correct tag.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: She also went on to say that she wasn't going
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: to tag his daughter in her stories because a lot
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: of the people contacting her weren't kind and she didn't
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: want to do that to her. How dare she use
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: her maiden name? She's only built herself a profile off
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: the back of it for the last 10 years. Well,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: she actually followed up her story with a slide encouraging
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: people to sign up to her Pilates program. And I
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: actually love that she did this. I mean, people were
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: obviously trying to accuse her of somehow profiting off Hulk's death,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: even though she's not his daughter. But if you've got
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: all eyes on your account, the way that Aussie Brooke did,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: why not put a sneaky little plug in for your
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Pilates business? She's being abused, so she might as well
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: get a shameless plug out of it. It's funny to
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: think about your name, twins. So obviously someone that's got
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: the same name. I've actually never met a Kate Torber before. Sophie,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: our sister- We found out that there was a famous
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: artist born 100 years, exactly 100 years before her that
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: was called Sophie Torber and she's actually on the Swiss
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: $ 50 note, which is pretty cool. That's a pretty cool one.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I don't think I've met any other Amy Torbers either.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of Kate Turners, which is my married name. So,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen a lot of Turners in our
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Facebook group as well. I'm like, oh, wow. Yeah, maybe
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: somehow related to your husband. Well, Turner's a pretty common name,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: so probably not.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: I was just pushing the big double pram up the hill.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: And this lady walked past and she said, big load there.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I said, oh, it was two separate ones. It went
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: straight over her head.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Mitch Orville has revealed he shat out five parasites during
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: a 110-hour water cleanse. I love how you went there
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: and just said shat. Like normally if we're doing an
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: intro for the show, we might say, you know, defecate
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: it or try and make it sound a little bit
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: more professional. Look, I didn't want to misquote Mitch because
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: they are the words he used. So on Sunday night,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: he updated his Instagram followers saying, 90 hours into his
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: water cleanse. So he told them last meal was Wednesday night,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: only had water since, weight down six kilos. He went
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: on to say he felt the most energized he has
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: in the last two years and that the benefits included
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: better vision as well as increased mental and physical energy,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: not to mention the removal of the parasites. Now, I
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: just want to point out that there is no proof
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: that water cleansers improve any of these things. I mean,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I feel like we've been catapulted back to the 2010s.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: At the top of the show, we were talking about
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Frilly the Banana Girl, and it's still wild to think
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: that that even happened. But thanks to TikTok, we're seeing...
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: a revival of these type of diets and the water cleanses.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: It's very dangerous. It's disappointing that he's been posting about it.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: It's also surprising because Mitch was recently talking about how
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: he was taking a break from social media and that
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: he didn't really feel like he needed to post anymore.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: So a bit bizarre to come back and then talk
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: about this water cleanse. Yeah, he put up this big
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: post that seemed like a farewell to social media and
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: it coincided with him and Chloe moving to Newcastle. So
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I was thinking, wow, they're going to go off the grid.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: We're not going to hear from them again. Well, it
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: seems like maybe there's even more change coming to their
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: lives because Mitch said that the cleanse was the catalyst
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: he needed for change. And he's feeling euphoric after sticking
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: to something so difficult. He also mentioned that this wasn't
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the first cleanse that he's attempted. He told a follower
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: that the key to success this time was adopting a
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: carnivore diet for five days prior in order to reduce
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: sugar and carb cravings. I mean, Mitch is that sort
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: of person that's sort of all in, isn't he? Like
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: he's clearly going all in on his health. Well, a
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: couple of years ago he was trying to, was it
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: run 5Ks a day? And that turned into a bit
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: of an obsession. So it is a bit troubling to
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: see him spruiking all of these benefits to his impressionable
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: followers and seemingly getting really invested in it. Well, when
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I looked up what the benefits of a water cleanse
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: apparently are, A lot of them are related to health,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: but it's also noted that a lot of people do
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: them for religious or spiritual reasons. So I wonder if
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: that's another reason because Mitch is very heavily invested in
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: the church now. Yeah, he and Chloe have found God.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: And again, when Chloe announced a couple of months ago
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: that she was shutting down her activewear brand Zep, there
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: was whispers that potentially she was getting involved in the
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: church too. So I wonder if we're going to be
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: seeing an update from them soon regarding that. Well, I
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: think that is all we have time for today. Thank
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: you so much for listening to another episode of Outspoken.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: As we said at the start of the show, part
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: two of our Freely the Banana Girl deep dive will
• 25:33
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• 25:36
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• 25:39
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• 25:42
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• 25:45
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• 25:48
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