Latest / Investor Exchange / OUE REIT: 1H 2025. DPU Rose 5.4%
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- 0:02Time for another Investor Exchange podcast. Here are your hosts, Matt and Sally.
- 0:08Welcome to the deep dive. You know that feeling, right? You open a financial
- 0:11report and it's just fog. Charts, numbers, footnotes everywhere.
- 0:16It can feel pretty dense. Well, think of this as your shortcut through it.
- 0:20Today, we're focusing on OUE Real Estate Investment Trust, OUBE REIT,
- 0:24and how they did in the first half of 2025.
- 0:26We've got their interim financials, the presentation slides,
- 0:29the press release, our mission to really get into the numbers,
- 0:32figure out the why and see what might be next for them.
- 0:35And what's interesting right off the bat is revenue and net property income
- 0:39look down, but the distributions per unit, the DPU, that actually went up.
- 0:44So yeah, that's where it gets quite interesting.
- 0:46It really does. And just quickly, OU, your REIT strategy is basically investing
- 0:50in properties that generate income, mostly commercial.
- 0:53So office and retail and hospitality too. They're heavily focused on Singapore.
- 0:57Think One Raffles Place, OUE Downtown Office, Mandarin Gallery,
- 1:00the Hilton Singapore Orchard, Crown Plaza at Changi Airport, and OUE Bayfront.
- 1:04Prime stuff. Okay, let's tackle those headlines first.
- 1:07Comparing 1H 2025 to 1H 2024, yeah, things look a bit lower.
- 1:13Revenue dropped 10.6% to S131.1 million dollars.
- 1:18And net property income, NPI, that dipped 10.1% to F105.3 million dollars.
- 1:25So just looking at those raw figures, what's the immediate takeaway?
- 1:29Well, the big immediate reason is pretty clear cut. It's the divestment of Lipopaw to Shanghai.
- 1:34Remember, they sold that off right at the end of 2024, December 27th.
- 1:38Since that was a foreign asset, it's just not in the numbers anymore.
- 1:41So naturally, the overall group revenue in MPI reflects that absence.
- 1:45It pulls the totals down.
- 1:47Ah, OK. So that makes sense. The headline numbers are kind of skewed because
- 1:50the whole property is gone from the comparison.
- 1:51So to get the real picture, we need that like-for-like view,
- 1:54right? What do those numbers tell us about how the rest of the portfolio,
- 1:57the core Singapore assets, are actually doing?
- 1:59Exactly. And when you filter out Lipo Plaza, look at it like for like.
- 2:02It's a much different story.
- 2:03Revenue was only down slightly at 2.7 percent. And MPI JIP, just 2.0 percent year on year.
- 2:09So that paints a picture of, you know, much more resilience.
- 2:12Their core Singapore stuff is holding pretty steady. But here's the kicker. The DPU went up.
- 2:17Increased by 5.4% to 0.98 Singapore cents for the half year.
- 2:21And the core DPU, which is interesting, it strips out a capital distribution
- 2:24they did last year, so it's more operational that jumped 11.4% year on year.
- 2:29Well, that's a pretty big jump for uniholders, isn't it? How did that happen? It's quite a contrast.
- 2:34And that positive DPU, despite the headline dips, really points to two main things OURE did well.
- 2:39First, really effective capital management. And second, the underlying strength
- 2:44of their commercial properties here in Singapore. Those two factors were key
- 2:48in boosting the income available for distribution.
- 2:50Okay, capital management. The report mentions finance costs went down significantly.
- 2:55How significant are we talking and how did they pull that off?
- 2:57We're talking a 17.3% drop in finance costs compared to last year. That's substantial.
- 3:04And that directly helped the bottom line for distributions.
- 3:07How? Well, it was a proactive approach. They took advantage of the falling Sarara,
- 3:12the Singapore overnight rate average, and used hedging strategies effectively.
- 3:16Looking at their debt structure, the average cost of debt stayed pretty stable, around 4.2% per year.
- 3:22And importantly, they've hedged about 71.1% of their total debt.
- 3:27That gives them flexibility, you know, with interest rates being uncertain,
- 3:31plus their interest coverage ratio is solid at 2.2 times, which for you listening,
- 3:35basically means their earnings cover their interest payments more than twice over.
- 3:39That's comfortably above what their banks require, signaling good financial health.
- 3:43Okay, so savvy financial footwork there. And you mentioned the Singapore commercial
- 3:46portfolio was resilient. Can we break that down a bit? What happened with offices and retail?
- 3:51Sure. So the commercial segment that's office and retail combined actually saw
- 3:54higher revenue like-for-like, up 3.6% to S86.1 million dollars.
- 3:58And the NPI for commercial was up 5.1% like-for-like to S85.2 million dollars.
- 4:04This strength came from getting higher average rents across the board in that
- 4:07segment, and they also managed to keep operating expenses down.
- 4:10If we zoom in on office, The Singapore office portfolio kept a really healthy
- 4:13occupancy rate, 95.5% committed, and they managed a strong positive rental reversion
- 4:18that means renewals or new leases signed at higher rates of 9.1% in the second quarter.
- 4:22The average rent for square foot also nudged up slightly quarter-on-quarter to S$10.86.
- 4:27Shows demand for good office space is still there. Then there's retail,
- 4:30specifically Mandarin Gallery.
- 4:31That place is practically full, 99.0% committed occupancy. And get this,
- 4:36the rental reversion in Q2 was a huge 34.3% positive.
- 4:39What's really amazing is its average rent, S$22.22 per square foot per month,
- 4:43is now actually 1.2% higher than it was back in 2019 before the pandemic.
- 4:47Wow, 1.2% above pre-pandemic levels for a mall. That's quite something,
- 4:51especially given everything retail has gone through. Makes you wonder if that's sustainable.
- 4:55Okay, but the hospitality side, the hotels, they were a bit softer,
- 4:59you said. What drove that?
- 5:01Yeah, hospitality revenue was down 12.9% and NPI down 11.7% compared to last year.
- 5:06The main reason was that 1H 2024 was just a really strong period for them.
- 5:10Remember, the China-Singapore visa-free travel kicked in then,
- 5:13plus there were a lot of major events.
- 5:15It set a high bar. So this year, 1H 2025 saw more, let's say, muted demand.
- 5:20Plus, you have the broader economic headwinds and geopolitical tensions maybe
- 5:24making people think twice about discretionary travel spending.
- 5:27It really shows how external factors can swing things for hotels.
- 5:30Looking at RevPR revenue per available room, it was $233 overall for hospitality.
- 5:35Interestingly, the Crowne Plaza at Changji Airport actually saw its RevPR go up by 4.8% to S$239.
- 5:42But the Hilton Singapore Orchard moderated down to S$230.
- 5:47That moderation at the Hilton was partly normalization after last year's boost,
- 5:50but also there's just more hotel room supply popping up in the Orchard Road
- 5:53area now, increasing competition.
- 5:55Always a balancing act. Were there any other sort of significant financial items
- 6:00or adjustments in the report that caught your eye?
- 6:03Yes, a couple of things. Their share of profit from the joint venture that owns
- 6:07OUE Bayfront, OUE-LEAN's Bayfront LLP, that jumped by 41.0%.
- 6:12That was mainly because the property itself performed better,
- 6:15higher MPI and lower finance costs within that specific JV.
- 6:18So good news there. However, on the other side, they booked a pretty significant
- 6:22unrealized foreign exchange loss at $11.4 million this first half.
- 6:27Compare that to basically nothing, just $2,000 in the same period last year.
- 6:31This relates to foreign currency deposits they hold. It's an unrealized loss
- 6:35for now, just on paper, but definitely something to watch given how currencies are moving globally.
- 6:40Okay, so we've navigated through the past performance, cleared some of that fog.
- 6:43Now looking forward, what's the vibe? What's the outlook for UYURIT,
- 6:47especially with all the economic uncertainty still swirling around.
- 6:50The official line, and I think it's realistic, is cautiously optimistic.
- 6:55But with a very clear asterisk acknowledging those ongoing macroeconomic uncertainties
- 6:59and geopolitical risks, they're not wearing rose-tinted glasses.
- 7:02For the office sector specifically, CBRE is actually forecasting continued rent
- 7:07growth for the best buildings, the core CBD grade A offices in Singapore.
- 7:11They're projecting maybe 2-3% growth for 2025.
- 7:15And there could even be potential for a bit more upside. What's driving that?
- 7:19Well, there isn't much new office supply coming online. Plus,
- 7:22there's this ongoing flight-to-quality companies wanting better spaces,
- 7:26and increasingly, they want green buildings.
- 7:29OU Reed's portfolio fits this well. It's 100% green certified and right there in the CBD.
- 7:33So they seem pretty well-placed for that trend. Makes sense.
- 7:36Positioned for what the market wants. What about retail? Mandarin Gallery doing
- 7:39great, but what's the broader outlook?
- 7:41Retail leasing generally seems healthy in Singapore.
- 7:44F&B, fashion, services are doing okay, helped by tourism coming back.
- 7:48But retailers themselves might be a bit cautious about expanding too fast,
- 7:52you know, with rising costs and online competition still being major factors.
- 7:55But the key thing is, there isn't expected to be a huge amount of new retail space opening up.
- 8:01That limited supply should help
- 8:03prime retail rents get back to pre-COVID levels, maybe by the end of 2025.
- 8:08And IDR isn't just waiting for tenants, they're actively trying to create buzz,
- 8:12like that Popmart collaboration at Mandarin Gallery. Trying to make the mall
- 8:16an experience, not just shops. It seems essential these days.
- 8:19Right, creating reasons to actually go there. And hospitality.
- 8:22You mentioned moderating arrivals, but some supports. Yeah, visitor numbers
- 8:26might be leveling off a bit from the initial post-pandemic surge.
- 8:29But there's still a lot supporting the sector.
- 8:31The IMEC pipeline looks strong.
- 8:33Big events like the World Aquatics Championships, the F1 Grand Prix, always pull people in.
- 8:38Plus, think about all the big concerts scheduled.
- 8:41G-Dragon, Elton John, Blackpink, Jackie Chung.
- 8:44Those bring in huge crowds, many from overseas.
- 8:48And new attractions like the
- 8:49expanded Oceanarium and Super Nintendo World coming soon should also help.
- 8:53Crucially, like with offices, not a ton of new hotel supply is expected in the near term.
- 8:57So OE REIT's focus here is on locking in corporate business,
- 9:00enhancing what they offer, think of sustainable meeting packages,
- 9:03more diverse food options like halal menus, themed family suites,
- 9:06trying to capture specific guest segments.
- 9:09So they seem to have clear reads on each sector. What about their overall game
- 9:12plan then? What are the big strategic pillars for OE REIT going forward?
- 9:16They've laid out three main ones. First is to maximize asset performance.
- 9:20That means really focusing on keeping tenants happy and staying,
- 9:24optimizing occupancy rates, getting the right mix of shops and retail,
- 9:28and building strong ties with corporate clients for the hotels.
- 9:32A big part of this is also improving the environmental side,
- 9:35the green credentials of their buildings.
- 9:37That's not just good for the planet. It makes the assets more valuable and attractive long-term.
- 9:42Future-proofing, basically. Okay, maximizing what they have.
- 9:45What's next? Second is to reinforce their capital structure.
- 9:48Keep being careful with debt, manage refinancing smartly to keep costs down
- 9:52and push out repayment dates, and use their good credit rating to their advantage.
- 9:56It's about financial stability. Makes sense.
- 9:59Prudent. And the third pillar? The third is pursue value creation opportunities.
- 10:03This means keeping an eye out for ways to maybe reshuffle the portfolio if market
- 10:08conditions are right, but also actively looking for new acquisitions.
- 10:13And interestingly, not just in Singapore.
- 10:15They're specifically mentioning looking at prime office buildings in Sydney,
- 10:19Australia, and hotels in prime spots in Tokyo, Japan.
- 10:23So potentially expanding their geographic footprint into other key gateway cities.
- 10:28They're looking for offices, hotels, maybe mixed-use places with strong green
- 10:33credentials on long leases or freehold ownership, a measured expansion, it seems.
- 10:37You really do see once you get past those initial downtrending numbers,
- 10:41there's a lot going on underneath.
- 10:42Active management of the assets, the finances. Absolutely.
- 10:46It's quite fascinating, actually, how they're navigating things,
- 10:48doubling down on the strength of their Singapore core, which is proving resilient,
- 10:52while at the same time being strategic about managing debt and cautiously looking
- 10:57for growth opportunities elsewhere.
- 10:58It's a balancing act. Yeah, this deep dive really highlights that.
- 11:02A complex report, sure, but clear stories emerge about resilience,
- 11:05smart shifts, and definitely keeping an eye on the future cuts through that fog we talked about.
- 11:10So thinking about all this, what really stands out to you?
- 11:13Maybe the surprising strength of high-end retail like Mandarin Gallery,
- 11:16or how crucial that capital management was for the DPU, something to chew on
- 11:20until our next deep dive.