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Why is it Mostly Women Celebrating Murder? What happens next? | Maintaining Frame 180 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name
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  Speaker 1: is Brian with Allison, and this is maintaining frame number
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  Speaker 1: one eighty. Why is it mostly women celebrating murder? And
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  Speaker 1: what happens next? We're going to be reacting. I changed
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  Speaker 1: your suggestion a little bit because I think that's the takeaway.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna be reacting to a video by Shoe on Head,
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  Speaker 1: which is her I guess response or thoughts on the
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  Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk assassination. And I mean, you know, and she's
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think it's worth looking at. So I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. You haven't seen it, right, Alison.
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  Speaker 2: No, I have not seen it, so I have you know,
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  Speaker 2: don't spoiler, don't spoiler the ultimate conclusion. But yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: this is this has been quite the interesting interesting is
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  Speaker 2: the wrong word? Sorry? A tragic enlightening event. Yeah, just
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  Speaker 2: to see the sheer Malfie's on a particular group. I
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  Speaker 2: don't even want to say a side because I think
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  Speaker 2: that they just are raw human eat ugliness at this point.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, let's.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, I know you want to say a side, Alison.
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  Speaker 2: Because what the sides are? What I want to.
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  Speaker 1: Want to the bloodthirsty murderer demons that you know, vote.
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  Speaker 1: We don't want to alienate them.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that's my point here.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, do you think that?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that human evil is a side?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the side of evil, I do, yes, Okay, all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, fine, fine, yeah, just just the side of be
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  Speaker 2: of descending into the worst impulses that human beings have.
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  Speaker 1: How's that sure?
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  Speaker 2: let's get into.
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  Speaker 1: It, all right, So I have some time codes here,
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  Speaker 1: let's play her intros. I think the setup is important
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  Speaker 1: as usual, and she is good at doing the setup.
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  Speaker 3: So on September tenth, Charlie Kirk was giving a talk
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  Speaker 3: at Utah Valley University and out of nowhere, he was dead,
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  Speaker 3: live in front of a bunch of college kids, in
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  Speaker 3: front of his wife and his two children. And I
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  Speaker 3: don't think the country is ever going to be the same,
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  Speaker 3: not only because of this horrific tragedy, but because of
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  Speaker 3: everything that followed, the dark, disturbing realization that we may
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  Speaker 3: not be on the same page as our coworkers, classmates, friends, neighbors,
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  Speaker 3: doctors when it comes to the issue of murder. I
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  Speaker 3: was crashing out on Twitter a few days ago, just
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  Speaker 3: stream of consciousness posting about it with run on sentences
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  Speaker 3: and everything. Four days later, I have a clearer head,
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  Speaker 3: but I still feel the exact same way. So we
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  Speaker 3: are going to talk about what happened. We're going to
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  Speaker 3: talk about the aftermath, and then we're going to get
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  Speaker 3: a little personal because frankly, I don't see the country
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  Speaker 3: the same anymore, and I know a lot of you
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  Speaker 3: feel the exact same way. So we're going to talk
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  Speaker 3: about it after we talk about everything else.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So you can already tell the tone is
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  Speaker 1: not her normal tone. No, I did read her posts
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  Speaker 1: on X and I'm you know, I totally get it.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, Yeah, I'm just letting you guys know, let
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  Speaker 1: me just make sure that I got all of this
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  Speaker 1: setup so that we'll get the appropriate Yeah, so when
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  Speaker 1: super chats come through and all that, it'll be fine.
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  Speaker 2: What we're going to say, well, what I was going
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  Speaker 2: to say is that. So just to get clarify my
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  Speaker 2: thoughts on this, there is a side that uses speech
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  Speaker 2: to identify enemies and a side that continues to regard
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  Speaker 2: speech as a means of communicating different concepts, but in
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  Speaker 2: order to have a discourse, you need sides to that discourse.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like, how do you say that it's wrong
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  Speaker 2: to consider disagreeing with you a capital offense and that's
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  Speaker 2: actually evil and allow for that? A discourse needs to
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  Speaker 2: have two sides. That makes sense. So that's why I
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  Speaker 2: say I think that this is not a discourse. This
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  Speaker 2: is not a side in the discourse. This is a
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  Speaker 2: desire to destroy human communication entirely, to make it a
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  Speaker 2: form of dominance. In other words, you have one opinion
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  Speaker 2: and that's their opinion and no other. That's the destruction
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  Speaker 2: of discourse. But again, a discourse needs to have a
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  Speaker 2: variety of opinions to occur. So how would you describe that, Brian?
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  Speaker 2: How would you explain the difference?
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  Speaker 1: Remember Calgary Expo, Allison, why did you get thrown out.
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  Speaker 2: Because I wanted to have a conversation with.
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  Speaker 1: People who did not have any interest in having a
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  Speaker 1: conversation with you. Yes, and so they threw you out.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So they've been censoring, they've been banning, they have been excluding,
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  Speaker 1: and some people, despite all that, managed to push through.
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  Speaker 1: And so they take it further. They tried canceling, they
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  Speaker 1: try getting people fired from their jobs. They tried getting
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  Speaker 1: people's reputations destroyed so they would not be able to
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  Speaker 1: associate with people in their community, and then some people
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  Speaker 1: pushed through and then they killed them. And I'm not
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  Speaker 1: being hyperbolic. That is the nature of what they do.
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  Speaker 1: So the people who kicked you out of the expo
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  Speaker 1: are the same people who killed Charlie Kirk in terms
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  Speaker 1: of their ultimate like at the baseline of their belief system.
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  Speaker 1: And you can say that's like not a side, but
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  Speaker 1: it is a side because there's like a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people that are okay with this, even if they don't
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  Speaker 1: want to pull the trigger themselves. And you could say
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  Speaker 1: that on the side of people who want to have discourse,
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  Speaker 1: there are different people who have different opinions, but those
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  Speaker 1: are all that's all fine, we can like, we can
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  Speaker 1: wrestle with that. But right now we have people who
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  Speaker 1: just want you to die or shut up and disappear forever. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: which is basically the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm aware of that. I'm just saying that I
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  Speaker 2: think that calling that aside is giving it legitimacy. It's
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  Speaker 2: not a side. Well, yes, I guess is theft aside.
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  Speaker 3: Like there's a there.
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  Speaker 1: I get that, but ultimately they do believe in theft
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  Speaker 1: because they're statists, and that's what says do when their
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  Speaker 1: parents are challenged. But look I'm saying is that I
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  Speaker 1: guess we're just trying to like figure out what the
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  Speaker 1: best way to view this paradigm is. I see it
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  Speaker 1: as people who are willing to talk and people who
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  Speaker 1: don't want to talk.
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  Speaker 2: And I want to talk. They want to use words
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  Speaker 2: to dominate, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but then.
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  Speaker 2: There is no side and there's discourse. There is only
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  Speaker 2: them and their ability to dominate through canceling, through evictions,
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  Speaker 2: through firing, through murder. It's the desire to stop people
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  Speaker 2: thinking things that they don't accept, right, And it's like
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  Speaker 2: that's that is a criminal it's like a criminal behavior
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  Speaker 2: and it's a it's a descent into human and madness.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean I saw that when when I remember
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  Speaker 2: the video I did on the Nazis in Boston. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like they they did not want them. They didn't even
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  Speaker 2: show the people they were calling Nazis because then it
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  Speaker 2: would have been patently obvious that what they were doing
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  Speaker 2: was silencing a bunch of people who just had uh
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  Speaker 2: interests in free speech and and maybe you know, an
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  Speaker 2: our narco capitalism or whatever and weed, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: they they silenced them because they did not want people
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  Speaker 2: to know that they were lying about them. And it's
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  Speaker 2: like they're this, I don't know, Okay, maybe maybe I'm
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  Speaker 2: just struggling with something that is impossible to explain at
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  Speaker 2: the moment. So let's just continue, all right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, let's jump ahead to let me play a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more of this.
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  Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk was not a healthcare CEO. He was not
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  Speaker 3: a powerful politician. And let me be one hundred percent clear,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying this to say that it's okay when
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  Speaker 3: those people are murdered. My point is that those are
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  Speaker 3: positions of power that most people cannot relate to. The
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  Speaker 3: average person is just so far removed from that world.
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  Speaker 1: Does that echo, Well, you're getting an echo.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm getting a bit of an echo.
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  Speaker 1: Is that that's weird?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Is that original to her video?
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  Speaker 1: Or let me har I'll put on my headphones. It
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  Speaker 1: normally wouldn't be an issue. But yeah, and for the record,
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  Speaker 1: when she says this is not some ceo, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: she's making a reference to the United Healthcare guy. And
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  Speaker 1: I know that she does say. Look, I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: that that makes it okay, but you see, because we
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  Speaker 1: accepted that when it happened, that that means we accept this.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, if you were one of those people
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  Speaker 1: that says Luigi was a hero, guess what, you implicitly
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  Speaker 1: supported the assassination of Charlie Kirk because you said assassination
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  Speaker 1: is okay. Sometimes fight me because I'm looking at the
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  Speaker 1: live chat and I know people are going to be
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  Speaker 1: in there bitching about something, so I'm gonna let you
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  Speaker 1: know that shit's not flying today. I'm watching anyway. Because yes,
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  Speaker 1: when you said it's okay Luigi to kill the United
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  Speaker 1: Healthcare guy, you basically said it's okay to do this
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  Speaker 1: as long as it's the people that I think should
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  Speaker 1: be killed. Guess what, you opened the floodgates for anyone
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  Speaker 1: to be targets.
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  Speaker 3: Differently, because, like I said on Twitter, he was just
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  Speaker 3: a facking guy. He was a podcaster, He was a
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  Speaker 3: guy who talked about politics. He was a guy who
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  Speaker 3: had conservative beliefs. Not everyone knows a billionaire CEO or
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  Speaker 3: a powerful politician, but they do know somebody with conservative beliefs.
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  Speaker 3: They know somebody who holds some or many of Charlie
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  Speaker 3: Kirk's opinions because despite what people in their little bubble believe,
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  Speaker 3: his core ideology and what he believed is the same
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  Speaker 3: shit like your conservative boomer uncle on Facebook posts. You
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  Speaker 3: can only disagree with this if you are unfamiliar with
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  Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk, or you are unfamiliar with the many different
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  Speaker 3: branches and different ideologies of the right wing. Now, don't
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  Speaker 3: get me wrong, Charlie Kirk had many Okay, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: pause it there for a second.
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  Speaker 1: She was doing the whole like, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 1: agree with them on everything thing I don't care, but
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  Speaker 1: uh I would I just want to say that this
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  Speaker 1: could easily have been a men's rights activist, and I
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  Speaker 1: think like we have had, you know, bomb threats called
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  Speaker 1: on ICMI's. We have had activists called the hotel and
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  Speaker 1: say that there are white supremacists and clansmen and Nazis,
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  Speaker 1: you know, attending your thing. Why would they do that
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  Speaker 1: if they weren't prepared for us to possibly get killed,
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  Speaker 1: not just like kicked off the premises or banned, but
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  Speaker 1: if it like escalated in any way, if there was
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  Speaker 1: a misunderstanding or escalation we can be gone. So she
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  Speaker 1: can say this is a conservative thing, and I know
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  Speaker 1: people will in the chat will be like, well, they're
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  Speaker 1: not us. We're not those filthy, filthy, gross conservatives. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, guys, stop it. Okay, you're all right
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  Speaker 1: wing period. You are. You are because you disagree with
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  Speaker 1: murdering your opponents.
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  Speaker 2: You're right wing because we agree and we agree with
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  Speaker 2: discourse regardless of where you stand, what your position is,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't even matter at this point. No discourse.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but this isn't a new thing. That's why I'm
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  Speaker 1: pointing out old experiences. So she was like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: war has changed. No, this has been real, like a
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  Speaker 1: thing since canaan Abel. This is ancient, ancient behavior that
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  Speaker 1: never has gone away. It's always been under the surface
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  Speaker 1: of everybody. But just some people were tempted by it
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  Speaker 1: and acted on it and some were not. And so
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  Speaker 1: to say this is like, you know, a new thing
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  Speaker 1: that just started happening, because my internet is just false.
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  Speaker 1: It's not new, it's old anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, all right, let's keep going.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Takes over the years, like, for example, the two most
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  Speaker 3: popular quotes I see people posting.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump ahead. This is this is getting into
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  Speaker 1: the specifics, but let's go.
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  Speaker 2: I think it really does come down to this. It's
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  Speaker 2: on one side you have people who do not want
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  Speaker 2: to hear any contrary opinions at all, and then the
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  Speaker 2: other side is people who want to have discourse. And
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what the content of your discourse is.
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  Speaker 2: If you allow that other people who disagree with you
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  Speaker 2: are human beings that deserve to live, then you are
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  Speaker 2: one of the bad people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, let's go to So there's like
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff about like why because she was
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure out like why whether or not he was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because they were claiming that she he was
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  Speaker 1: right wing and it's all bullshit obviously, but she figures
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  Speaker 1: that out, like she's talking about it. But anyway, let's
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  Speaker 1: jump ahead to what I think is the most important thing,
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  Speaker 1: more important than the assassination, which is very important, don't
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  Speaker 1: get me wrong, but the reaction to it.
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  Speaker 3: Means it ultimately doesn't matter. One person may have pulled
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  Speaker 3: the trigger, but then we saw the reaction of many.
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  Speaker 3: We think that Charlie Kirk just got shot in the net.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm not saying she deserver did, but I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: God's timing is always right. Yeah, they got Charlie Kirk.
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  Speaker 1: Bro I've never been happier.
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  Speaker 2: I never believe the reason I'm smiling, and it has
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  Speaker 2: nothing to do with Charlie Kirk.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing to do.
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  Speaker 3: I would say, poor one out for Kirky boy, but
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  Speaker 3: I don't always good beer a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk just got put down like a fucking dog
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  Speaker 1: in Utah.
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  Speaker 3: I do not, and I will not, ever, ever, ever,
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  Speaker 3: ever ever feel bad when bad people get what then
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  Speaker 3: they deserved.
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  Speaker 2: That someone shot Charlie Kirk.
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  Speaker 3: A bt burs.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, No, someone shot Charlie Kirk.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I don't know who needs to hear this today,
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  Speaker 4: but that's how you pick up a woman.
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  Speaker 2: I heard someone got shot today.
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  Speaker 1: I had a Tommy this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Stay alive out there.
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  Speaker 1: The sympathy for Charlie Kirk is weird. You don't have
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  Speaker 1: to like violence, But I'm confused as to how you
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  Speaker 1: thought the revolution was gonna be magically bloodless. I've been
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  Speaker 1: saying we need to.
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  Speaker 2: Bring back political fascinations.
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  Speaker 4: I don't feel bad, and I don't think that everyone
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  Speaker 4: deserves the right to free speech.
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  Speaker 5: I think some people should be afraid to express their
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  Speaker 5: opinion in public. I didn't like what he said, and
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  Speaker 5: I didn't like his opinions, and I don't really give
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  Speaker 5: a shit that he's dead.
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  Speaker 4: The best part of this whole goddamn thing is that
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  Speaker 4: he is not martyr material, so his death will mean nothing.
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  Speaker 4: It will activate no one, it will impact few.
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  Speaker 1: It's just great.
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  Speaker 6: There are a lot of people that are like, no
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: matter what side of politics you're on, you should never
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  Speaker 6: celebrate something bad happening to someone. I, on the other hand,
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  Speaker 6: do cheer when bad things happen to bad people.
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  Speaker 1: Harby just got shot. I saw the video before they
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  Speaker 1: even put out the confirmation. There was no chance that
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  Speaker 1: he made it through. That this wasn't the one we
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  Speaker 1: were hoping for, but a welcome surprise.
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  Speaker 2: Nonetheless, I'm surprised that y'all didn't get rid of him sooner,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm surprised that you guys aren't getting rid of
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  Speaker 2: more people like, don't stop with him, don't let him
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  Speaker 2: be the end dog, get rid of them all.
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  Speaker 3: His wife deserves to go to y'all.
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  Speaker 7: People talking about his wife and kids, they need to
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  Speaker 7: go too, because they're carrying on that mentality in that lineage,
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  Speaker 7: like get.
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  Speaker 2: Rid of the whole family. I'm so sorry. Why did
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  Speaker 2: you guys stop with him?
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  Speaker 3: There were thousands of videos.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, these people deserve to live in the squalor and
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  Speaker 2: violence of the society with no advanced, virtuous principles the
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  Speaker 2: society that they are going to construct. That's what I think.
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  Speaker 2: Is that a cruel thing to say? Is that inciting violence? Yes,
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  Speaker 2: we don't deserve to be dragged in with them, though,
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  Speaker 2: it's the problem. Okay, let's hear what you has to say.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like this might be just the breaking point
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  Speaker 2: for Shoe, But maybe I'm wrong. I say that out ignorance.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what you mean by breaking point,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, but okay, let's see.
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  Speaker 3: People posting with their full names and faces, with hundreds
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  Speaker 3: and thousands of likes, thousands of tweets, celebrating it with
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  Speaker 3: half a million likes, and it's important to remember that
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  Speaker 3: all of those likes are a real person. Millions of
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  Speaker 3: people in this country apparently believe the acceptable response to
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  Speaker 3: speech they don't like is murder. This wasn't just a
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: bunch of fringe blue hair sjw's or whatever. They were teachers, professors, doctors,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: HR workers, healthcare workers, nurses, pediatricians, people who work with kids,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: people's classmates, roommates. They are teachers showing our children the gory,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: horrifying video of Charlie's murder on repeat.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: So yeah, there was a teacher who forced her ten
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: year old classroom to watch h murder video over and
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: over again. So I'm just reading the headline and I
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: knew about that story. So I mean, look, I'm not
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: that surprised. I don't know why Shoe is but I'm
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: not so I don't know what that says about me.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: But when I learned that there were this many people
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: celebrating his death, I wasn't really surprised.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: And the media is going forward with smearing him and
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: miss misrepresenting what he said. I know one particular quote
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: that I saw was this quote on empathy and saying
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: he said basically that empathy was a meaningless buzzword, but
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: then he went on to say that sympathy is what matters,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: because because you cannot empathize with necessarily the things other
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: things that people go through because you are not them,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: but you can sympathize with their their feelings about it
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: their their experience of you know, sadness or tragedy, so
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: it was nothing like the media proposed. And then another
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: one that I've heard excusing his death is him saying
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: that guns, the existence of freedom, and also the existence
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: of the Second Amendment, the right to bear arms, means
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: that the cost of that is that there will be
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: people who die. Honestly, I would have said that there's
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: more likely to be people who die if there isn't
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: freedom of speech in particular and the Second Amendment, but
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: he went with they're more likely that people will die
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: in order to have freedom. The freedom means that some
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: people will die as a result of it. And there
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: are people saying, well that means that him being killed
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: is justified. Its just deserts for his statement. Well, he's
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: basically saying that everybody in a free society, everybody runs
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: the risk of runs risks. Just like if you are
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: allowed to have a car, there will be accidents that
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: killed people. That doesn't justify you running someone over with
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: your car. If they say, well, you know we all
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: have cars, that means that we're gonna have to accept
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: a certain amount of accidents. You don't get to run
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: him over, nor is it justified to run that person over.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: It's just the cost, and honestly, I would say it's
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: a greater cost. And ultimately, it wasn't freedom, a freedom
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: of speech that killed Charlie Kirk. It was the absence.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: It was it was people who believe in the absence
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: of that freedom.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Well, plus he was on a college campus was a
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: gun free zone, so yeah, like it didn't. It's kind
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: of stupid. And again, like people who think that safety
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: is guaranteed that they're just not serious people, Like, there
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: is no place where safety is guaranteed. There's no such thing.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: You live some risk. I do understand what you're saying.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah you have, you always have to live with some risk.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: So but but that doesn't really matter. I mean, I
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: also heard and I don't think she didn't bring it up,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: and I thought it was weird because a very common
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: one that feminist brought up was that I guess Charlie
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Kirk was on one of those Jubilee surrounded videos and
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: he was like the guy being surrounded by a bunch
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: of you know, young I guess activists and one woman.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: They were talking about abortion because he's people's pro life,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: very staunching pro life, and of course when you're dealing
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: with pro choice people, they always give you the most
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: like absurd you know example, or something that you have
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: to refute. So like, you know, what, if your daughter
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: was raped then got pregnant, would you make her carrying
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: it to term? You know, this like kind of absurd
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: thing that is very unlikely, especially less likely because he
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: is a father with his children, but like you have
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: to assume that dads don't actually protect their kids to
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: think that something like that could happen and to begin with.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: But he just said, well, yeah, I mean it doesn't
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: mean that it's not a life, so like it doesn't
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: change anything. That was his opinion. I And then of
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: course feminist ran with it and said, oh, Charlie Kirk
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: wants people to get raped and then force them to
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: carry their babies to term, which of course is like
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the most capital offense you could ever do. And that's
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: why I'm surprised that people didn't more people didn't like
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: see that, because that was like one of the primary
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: ways to sort of like demonize him was to say, look,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: he wants his daughter to get raped and carry the
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: baby to term right now. It wasn't even just about
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: the gun control thing, which, of course, you know, whenever
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: a leftist like does a mass shooting, they always go
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: to guns because they don't want to talk about anything else.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: But like, it was really I think the abortion thing
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: was like the big one, so oh, it's something to do.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I don't actually know his opinions on trends individuals, so
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: I can't.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he thinks that they need mental health services more
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: than transitioning. But but he was like he was he
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: was I will say like I didn't watch him a lot,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: but he seemed to be someone whose opinions evolved, so
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: that means they could evolve even more because the last
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: time I saw him, I saw him on Tucker Carlson,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: and I don't, like I said, I don't watch Charlie
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Kirk much, but I do watch Tucker Carlson's show because
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: he did. I think that he deserves the benefit of
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: the doubt because he did do a Men's Month when
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: he was with Fox, and then he brought doctor Warren
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Ferrell on and I thought that was good, and so
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I watched him and he had Charlie Kirk on and
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: they I think their conversation was like two and a
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: half hours and a good seventy five percent of the
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: conversation was about men, and it wasn't in the because
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I know people are gonna be like he was saying,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: you should fucking suck it up and get back. No,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: he acknowledged the problems with divorce, He acknowledged the problems
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: with like fatherlessness. He saw that the problems with the economy,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: how men are being disserviced by the education system, how
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: they're not able to afford a home, how they're having
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: trouble finding partners, how they're checking out. He acknowledged all
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: of that. So and I mean, I don't know where
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: that could have gone because he was murdered after that,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: but I did see that he was heading in that direction,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: and I was, let's say, I was encouraged by that.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this is this is good, Like
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: it's gonna take. He was really young. He was thirty
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: one when he was assassinated, so he had a lot
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: of growing to do still if you think about it.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: But unfortunately, Yeah, I mean I thought he was on
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: the right track. So yeah, anyway.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: And I mean, honestly, she said that there are things
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: that she disagreed with with Charlie Kirk, and I think
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: there probably would be things that I would disagree with
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: and even Brian would disagree with in terms of focus
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: and emphasis, because you know, we focus on men's issues. Well,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: maybe maybe you do agree with everything that Charlie Kirk says.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know everything that, Yeah, but I don't think
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: it it's relevant.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. I think that's what she means, though
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: it's not relevant.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah I don't. Yeah, I don't think it's relevant. But anyway,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: so yeah, let's keep going on repeat.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: See hippie Dippy in this house, we believe shitlib mask
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: was ripped off and underneath was nothing but psychopathic blood lust.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I've seen people on the right celebrate the death of
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: people they disagree with. I've seen it. I remember Heather
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Higher in twenty seventeen, but I also remember the whole internet,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: left and right coming together to disavow and mock the
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: few dozen people from Stormfront who were celebrating her death.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: This is different. It's never been like.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I don't even remember that.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: What the heck, well, it was very it was very marginal.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: So like the Heather Higher thing happened with the Charlottesville
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: event or whatever it was. When the Unite the Right
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: rally came and they were protesting the statues being torn down,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: and some like you know wig nats went there and
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: started agitating. But like, that's not a new thing, because
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: you know, there have been that's been going on for
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: decades and decades. In fact, I think that we used
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: to have more open discourse back in the day because
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I remember, you know, like Phil Donna Hue bringing the
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: k K K on or something. I mean, I thought
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: it was kind of theater anyways, Like I don't know
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: if any of that was real, but the point is
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: we we knew that stuff existed, and in general, yes,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: like that, it's they're a joke, like people, normal people
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: are not really fans. So when she said, you know,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: they disavowed them, she again she thinks that there's been
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: like this shift. But I don't think that's right. I
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: think that in general, people are much more wary of
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: sort of you know what they would call like right
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: wing extremism than left wing extremism. I mean, the if
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: you look at just look at the what's been the
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: discussion around this as like when they were trying to say,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: oh well, let's not forget like the right is way
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: more dangerous than the left is. And then they bring
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: out these charts and it's all shipped from the SPLC
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: and the ADL, who basically only count. They don't even
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: count like, you know, things like Antifa assassinations, which happened.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I remember that guy that was killed in Portland during
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: the BLM riots, the Black Lives Matter riots, the weather underground,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: the you know what is it? The the assassination attempts
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: on Trump were not called hate crimes or or politically
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: motivated violence. The so it goes on. So when the
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: ADL is literally not counting stuff, and then they put
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: out a chart saying, look at all this right wing
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: violence even Oh and also the the ad L will
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: call like college protests against Israel, like during the Israel
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: palasign thing, they'll call that right wing even though those
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: are leftists, you know, like they are in fact, and
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: they would say so because the reasoning behind why they
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: oppose Israel has nothing to do with actually what's happening.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: It has to do with israel relationship with the United
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: States and that and the United States is the oppressor,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: the ultimate oppressor. So that's the Their reasoning is completely
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: different from people who have like Dave's myth or whatever.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: They have, like, you know, rational reasons to criticize the
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: government of Israel. But the ADL would just call it
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: all right wing because and they call libertarians right wing,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: they call Catholics right wing, they call Paul elm right wing,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: far right extremists whatever. So if that's their their metric
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: for measuring extremism, is no wonder that the left is
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: never called extremists. And anyone that's even like libertarian, like
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: those Nazis in Boston are just going to be extremist
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: right wingers. And by the way, they hate libertarians too.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: That's just true. There's no getting out of that. And
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: cap guess what, you're a Nazi, it doesn't But they also.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Hate anybody on the left who's willing to talk to
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: anybody like honestly, they hate this course period. They hate
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: the idea of people communicating peacefully different points of view,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: different ways of approaching problems, different understandings of history or whatever,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: or different analyzes of history. They hate human discourse. They
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: just and they use the term far right as a
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: way to silence it. Yeah, like misogyny, Yeah, like misogyny, yes, exactly,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: They use use misogyny, they use far right, they use
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: all these buzzwords. Is a way to silence people. And
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: like I said, they use speech to identify enemies and
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: control people. So it speeches for them is a means
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: to control, not to disseminate ideas. This is this has
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: to be some fucked up throwback to some prehistoric conception
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: of words like and it's it's to call like. The
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: reason why I hesitate to call it aside is because
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: it is the absence of sides, just like evil is
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: the absence of good. It is the absence of the
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: ability to recognize another side. I don't know what the
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: hell to call it. It's just avoid. It's like Tolkien's
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: spider demon who eats everything and leaves nothing but avoid.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: So they just want to eat everything and leave silence.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: And it's yeah, it's like a quiet place. You ever
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: seen that movie a quiet place with the aliens that
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: can hear everything and they kill whatever's there. Like they
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: literally find out that the aliens come from a world
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: where there is no sound. Okay, but anyway, let's keep going.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Never been in this brazen normal people have to log
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: into like an alternate Twitter account where they can post
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: their more unorthodox opinions. And these people are out here
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: full face, full name, like hell yeah, murder. What the
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: smug unearned confidence these people have to be openly sociopathic
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: with their full name and face because they live under
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: the pathetic delusion of being on the right side of
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: history needs to end. They will blame you for your
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: death because words are violence. Words are violence, So them
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: killing you is just self defense. That's why they're using
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Kyle Rittenhouse as some kind of gotcha.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Oh all right, I'm gonna move up to something else. Yes,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: you got it. Words of violence. We've been hearing that
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: since we started doing the men's issues thing, and.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Violence political discourse.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: And violence is yes, violence is just freedom of speech.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Well for them, I mean uh okay. So she goes
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: into a thing where she tries to explain like why
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: you know, like that how they define Nazi. I'm gonna
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: skip that because we know that it's whatever makes them uncomfortable, okay.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Being anti death. Charlie Kirk was a fucking Nazi.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: He was a fucking Nazi. And you know what kind
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: of nazis the best Nazi?
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: By the way, you notice anything about all these videos
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: that they share almost almost completely in common. She was
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: gonna mention it, I am a.
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: Better person than you for celebrating the death of a
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: Nazi and actually it's pretty weird that you're not, and
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: simultaneously asking people to have empathy for the Nazi.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Nazis have children and families, right, But Nazis also get
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: shot in the neck.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: They don't kill you because you're a Nazi. They call
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: you a Nazi, so they can kill you.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: And they call you and they kill you, and then
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: they call you a Nazi. Yeah, nobody's scared shitless. No, actually,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I know every everybody is scared shitless of this, even
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: the people who presumptively share the same viewpoints as these
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: psycho these psychos, And honestly, I think that they chose
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: this particular viewpoint and this particular philosophy to for their
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: incursion into the human realm, their demonic incursion into the
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: human realm, because everybody nobody likes misogyny, nobody likes racism,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: nobody likes homophobia, nobody likes unfair bias towards people. And
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: as a society, we are built on the idea that
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: people should be judged based on individual merit. So that's
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: what they took over and they used it because those
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: virtues are our virtues. Does that make sense or am
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I talking out my ass?
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: No that makes sense? But yeah yeah.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but I don't even think they have those virtues, Like, Okay,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back into feminism because that's the thing
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: that I've been hammering at for like twenty five years.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Now, Well this comes from feminism.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is this?
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, are there or one comes before the other,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: but they're definitely like interlinked. Like none of these people
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: that were cheering his death if you asked them but
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: they were feminists, none of them would say no.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Yep. But I was looking at I. I was talking
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: with Grock and we were examining the how feminism approaches
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: domestic violence. And there is now a new intervention called
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: ACTV which results in fifty percent less recidivism among only
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: male perpetrators, because nobody recognizes female perpetrators, but feminists, because
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: they're dominant, they push the intervention that supports their ideology,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: which is duluth, which has never been shown to have
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: any benefit on recidivism. So, in other words, feminists put
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: pushing their ideology over their stated goal of helping women.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: They continue to want to push their ideology rather than
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: reduce the rate at which women are victimized by domestic violence.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: And it's just like, at that point, all that matters
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: is that your ideology is a tool of control. All
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: that matters is you can say, well, I am the
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: one who cares about women. Therefore I'm the one who
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: should control the discourse. I'm the one who should say
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: what's hate speech, what's allowed. I'm the one who should
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: be able to construct a moral hierarchy with you at
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: the bottom, and that can include political violence against you
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: as justified. And that's all it is. They just use
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: people's desire to help women to take away their power.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Like I said, they turn virtue into extortion. And that's
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: what feminists do, and that's what these other people do.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: They don't use these terms because they give a flying
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: fuck about any single minority group or women, right, And
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I apologize for going into caring about women more than men.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: That's not what I'm about. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: They don't give a flying fuck about women, they don't
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: give a flying fuck about minorities, they don't give a
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: flying fuck about trans or homosexuals. They don't give a
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: flying fuck. What they care about is that these buttons,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: we all have these buttons that they can push to
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: make us submit to them. That's what they care about.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: That we respond to these terms, that we don't want
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: to be racist, that we don't want to be homophobic,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: that we don't want to be sexist, and they push
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: those buttons in order to control us. They don't have
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: those virtues. We have those virtues. And regardless if you
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: question all of this stuff, all of us here believe
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: that people should be judged on their merit. All of
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: us here believe that people should be able to speak right.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: This is the basis of being in this I don't
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: know this arena. Okay. Therefore, we don't want to feel
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: like we aren't judging people based on their merit. We
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: don't want to feel like we're silent others. So they
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: use those virtues that are our virtues against us to
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: make us submit. And that's like, that's what I'm trying
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: to explain when I say they don't have a side.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: All they have is a desire for power. All they
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: have is a desire to silence people. All they have
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: is this primitive hatred of what they don't control, Like
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: this is, they're basically just a bunch of freaking homenids
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: kicking another hominid to death because it brought them fire.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: It brought fire into the community, and they're like, what's
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: this This we don't control. We must destroy, that's all
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: it is. And they use our virtues against us. Okay, yeah,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: I'll step off my soap my soapbox, all.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Right now, I'm going to talk about my personal feelings
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: of the situation because I know a lot of you
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: can relate. I know a lot of you have been
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: feeling the exact same way, so I will try and
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: put it into words for you. I have friends who
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: were friends with Charlie Kirk, but I didn't personally know him.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: We follow each other on Twitter. I've been to the
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: TPUSA Amrapist in twenty twenty one. I actually went there
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: planning to make a video making fun of it, but
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: I had so much fun and met so many friends
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: that I'm still friends with to this day, so that
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: video never happened.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I disagreed with oh, what didn't work? So you went
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: over there with preconceptions and then you found out those
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: were human beings and then you got along with them. Interesting.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: But I'm glad you didn't make that video, Shoe. I
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: appreciate that you went in there with the willingness to change.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: You learn something, well, learn something, you know, because one
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: of the reasons why we're in this situation that we
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: find ourselves in. And again, this is not a new situation.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: This has been going on for a very long time.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I think she was just discovering it for herself because
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: like most women, she's mostly shielded from this stuff. There
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: were two things that people just cannot say that has
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: put us here. One is I don't know, and the
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: other one is I was wrong. And because people cannot
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: do that, and instead they just, you know, what is
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: the saying s Jaw is always double down. They just
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: double down, double down, double down, or they turn a
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: blind eye to the things that cause cognitive dissonance. And
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: that's what I think. She was in a lot of
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: pain in this video. It's visible if you can look
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: at her face, you can tell that she's in pain.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: I think part of that is the cognitive dissonance settling
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: in that she is experiencing because she is seeing, like
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: the people around her, that she travels in, you know,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: exposing themselves. But anyway, yeah, go ahead.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: This manipulation because like I said this, I don't maybe
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: some of the people who are now pushing this idea
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: of violence as political speech came to this with the
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: best intentions, but they've become so fucking distorted. It's like
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: that horror man. Forget who created it. But there's these
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: holes that are the exact shape of people, and then
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: they go in them, and then they'll sounds. The whole
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: is the is their exact shape, but it gradually as
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: they shuffle downward through the mountain, because the hole is
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: slanted downward, they start to distort into these strange, cracked shapes.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: So eventually they'll die and then they come out the
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: other end and they're just like a like this this
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: broken sack of of So maybe some of these people
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: started with the best of intentions and they slowly got
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: corrupted by this this attitude of control and a threat narrative.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go, I'm just gonna say, a threat narrative
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: against the people that disagree with them, so that they
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: ended up coming out the other side completely inhuman. And
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: it's like it's but for.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: The most part.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of the people who were using
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: these virtues, they are using them as tools of control.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: And we have this in us. You see, throat all
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: of human history, there have been points where we've been
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: taken with the madness of I'll call it a threat narrative,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: like Nazi Germany was a threat narrative empowered by mass
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: media period. Like that, it came from the media, it
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: came from desperation which ended up being distorted into hatred
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: and an overwhelming threat narrative which no doubt people couldn't
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: speak out against right because they wanted they wanted anybody
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: questioning it would have destroyed the soap bubble reality that
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: they existed within. It's why they want to silence people.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: But they were distorted by a threat narrative, and these
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: individuals are also distorted by a threat narrative. Nobody that
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: they are saying as on the right is really a
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: horrible I mean, there are horrible people, but not because
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: they believe the things that Charlie Kirk believed, or Jordan
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Peterson or Brian or myself, or the hippies in the
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Church of Weed and the Gazebo being called Nazis by
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: the mass medium in Boston and having tens of thousands
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: of people descend on them like that. None of these
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: people are evil because of the things that they believe, right,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: And I don't think that people are nessed. Well, I
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: guess if you believe that everybody who disagrees with you
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: is evil, you know, you might want to you might
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: want to stop and think you're being possessed by a
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: threat narrative. But uh, you know, I don't think these
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: people are Nazis, and I don't think they're evil just
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: because they disagree even if they disagree with me. Right,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: if you disagree with me on something and it isn't
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: like basically saying a group of people is criminal, that
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: isn't actually criminal. Like, you know, you can say the
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: mafia is criminal. You could say terrorist organizations are criminal.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: But things like saying men are criminal, Right, That's that
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: is a threat narrative. Now I'm gonna disagree with it.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I'm maybe not gonna silence you, but I'm definitely going
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: to use logic and reason to dispose of your threat
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: narrative anyway. So, and the problem with threat narratives is
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: they don't they don't survive the light of day. So
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: they need to be protected by people who silence any
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: any disagreement, right, And Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna step
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: off my soapbox because I think that I'm repeating myself.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: So okay, all right, don't stop.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: My cat is My cat is getting feisty because she
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: sees that I have the stresses. Nope, yeah, don't claw.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: So she was sharing like a disagreement she had with
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk on X. I want to ask you guys
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: this because I think that she thinks that this is
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: like an obvious response, and I don't think it's this simple.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: So Charlie Kirk said Republicans should not support a bill
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: that pays people not to work, and then she says,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: have you seen the current unemployment in this country? Charles.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Now that's her way of just shooting him down. But
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I think Charlie Kirk is he has
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: a point, and don't I don't think the solution is
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: government pay people, because that's what she is for. She's
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: still for that, by the way, and I'll tell you
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: why it's stupid because only women are gonna get that money,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: and only men are gonna have that money. Taken from them,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: because that's how it always has been, and even men
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: who could benefit from it are most likely not going
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: to want to because they are gonna feel useless and
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: they don't want that. So what I think if you
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: asked him, if he was alive, to ask him this question,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: I would say, well, and he's even talked about it already,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: because he's talked at length about the problems with you know,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: men finding, you know, making decent money, being able to
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: afford a home, because he knows that if men can't
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: do those things, then they can't attract a woman. And
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, of course we could bring back Dowry, and
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: that's a whole other conversation, but the point is he
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: was at least looking at the world as it was
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: and saying, you know, the welfare and government programs are
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: not the solution to this problem. And I'm not I
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: guess this is a little bit of a nitpick, but
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, See, this is where she doesn't understand
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: that you don't just say, oh, we should just give
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: There should be gibbs, because like the people who are
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: calling for that have killed him or that wanted him dead,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: are the people who stood to lose Gibbs, they become
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: murderous because they know that the state, this guy is
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: calling for a reduction in those things at the end
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: of the day. And worse than that, he was reaching people,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: especially young people, in particular young men, and he was like,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: he moved He moved men that were otherwise not involved
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: in the political process into it. And part of it
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: was because they then started to understand how consequential things
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: were for them as men. So he was reaching Zumer
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: men and they were starting to like move to his
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: positions and they were starting to recognize that their money
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: was being taken from them and being given to women
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: on the whole. I don't think he would say that,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: but that is what's happening. And she was like, well,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: I think that there should be more games. But she's
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: again I'm not shitting on her. I'm just saying that
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: she obviously doesn't realize that's how the system works, and
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: making it more of that is just going to do
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: that more and when women who are benefiting from those
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: systems in fact encouraged to take advantage of them. And
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: you can look at guys like Thomas Soul Milton Freeman
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: who have talked about this for decades. Well there, when
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: they see that their their meal ticket is threatened, then
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: guess what they're going to be okay with somebody somewhere
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: doing something about it, probably a man, which is what happened.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I would say that there are some serious
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: problems in the workforce right now, and I'm not sure
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: if we can do really do the bootstrapping because everything
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: has become ossified. And but it's because of government intervention
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: in the economy, and there are no easy solutions right now,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: and I'm not sure what is going to happen. But
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: we can't like it's it's not we can't continue like this.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: We can't like the I don't think the US can
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: continue increasing the debt, and other countries, other Western countries
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: can't as well. So it it's just it's an intractable problem.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: But I can sort of, I can I can actually
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: see I'm going to do on both sides. I can
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: see both sides. I can see the issues that she
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: was bringing up, and also that you can't like the
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: only thing that that's going to do is add fuel
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: to the fire.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Right Charlie was bringing He's not he wasn't ignorant of
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: those things though Allison, he knew that the bootstrapping thing
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: wasn't enough because he talked about it on Tucker's thing,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: and that didn't even really even Tucker was like acknowledging
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: that reality that it was that wasn't the issue. But
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: the thing is, I think that Charlie was open to
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: discussing solutions outside of the box that did not involve
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: more government. Yeah, because he knew that that was the problem,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: or at least a big part of the problem.
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: No.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, if you look at Okay, I'm gonna
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take you into a big digression, But if
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: you see society and the cooperative systems of society is
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: actually an emergent property of men's biology, then what we've
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: been doing is basically deconstructing all of that. For the
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: last seventy years, seventy one hundred years, one hundred and twenty,
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty years, we've been deconstructing it. We've
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: been deconstructing the very thing that men produce that allows
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: everyone to survive on this planet. And now we're on
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: the end. We're on the end end of that deconstruction,
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: and everything is going to shit. Well, I mean, what
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: do you expect? What do you expect? And we deconstructed
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: it because we were convinced that by feminism that the things,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: the unique value proposition that men give the world is
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: actually something that they steal from women. Yeah, and we
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: just put in place all the mechanisms and levers to
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: start deconstructing it because we're convinced that they steal it
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: from women. That's like, all of the things that we
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: enjoy were built by men, and they weren't built by
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: men because they didn't allow women to build them. Because
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: if women had built them, women would have built them,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: and they would have been built by women because they
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: didn't exist before men built them. So how could men
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: exclude women from building something that didn't exist before men
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: built it? And that we don't none of them? Are
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: we ready for that dialogue? Are we ready for recognizing
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: that these cooperative systems, these things called civilizations are built
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: by men.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where it starts. Allison. For some reason, your
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: audio is like lagging a little bit behind the video.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I can starting I suspect void cat
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: active void cat intervention or I don't know. And ironically,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: even feminists don't disagree with what I'm saying because their
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: only solution is to create a guilt narrative in order
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: to convince men to give women the benefits of civilization.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: And yet, I don't know if you've noticed, but men
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: sort of build civilization to benefit women and their family.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: So we don't even need feminism. Why do we need
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: the middleman? Anyway, I'm going to try to figure out
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: what's wrong with my sound. I might have to quit
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: and come back in.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Please stop, Yeah, I guess, just try to leave and
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: come back really quick. I'll look at so you guys
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: send some super childs in and super chat so I
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: can get your thoughts on this. I think this is
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: like really crucial to talk about. And I know that
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: everyone's like the whole internet is on fire with this conversation,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: but I think that a lot of them are missing
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: something crucial. Well a few things. One, this isn't new.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: This is very old, so it's not like, oh my god,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: what happened, because like I've been talking about this for
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: a long time. We have been talking about this for
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: a long time, that this kind of well, I mean personally,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: I think it's baked in the cake, like if you're
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: if you're someone who has believes that the government should
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: be taken care of you, and that you believe that
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: it should be subsidizing like basically your lifestyle, your delusions,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: your choices, basically act, you know, act as a safety
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: net no matter when you fail, and when it worked,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah you came back fine.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, sorry about that. I also I also kicked I
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: kicked Mia the voidcat out. She can go chill with
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Mike for now.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, cool, yeah, all right, okay, anyway, so let's
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: let's uh get back to the video.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: Needs to end. They will blame you for your death
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: because words are violence. Words or violence, so them killing
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: you is just self defense. That's why they're using Kyle
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Rittenhouse as some kind of gotcha. Oh, if you don't
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: condone political violence, why do you support Kyle Rittenhouse. They
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: fundamentally don't see the difference between killing someone over speech
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: and killing someone over self defense because these are the
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: same things to them. Also, I'm going to be the
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: one to point it out, because of course I am I,
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: so nobody else do it. Why are most of them
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: women like it's a good like eighty twenty ratio all
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: over the internet, what is going on ladies. Basically the
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: e and.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: You got to know that the twenty that's that's male.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: They're doing it because they're simping. They want to get that,
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: they want to get that simply.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, the woman simp the woman male feminist slash simp
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: ratio is eighty twenty.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is yeah, Okay. I'm glad she noticed that,
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: because I did notice that myself, and I honestly it's
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: because women create the preconditions for violence. I'm just gonna
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: put it out there. They're the ones who utilate the
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: returning warriors. In more in tribalistic societies. They're the ones
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: who usually carry out the torture on enemy combatants and
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: enemy captured enemy you know that. And uh, they're the
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: ones who put out the white feathers. I mean not
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: all women. There are certain women who are have no
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: interest in promoting war and want to campaign against it.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: But men war is an emergent property of treating men
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: as expendable as treating men's lives as expendable in the
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: service of all kinds of things, and it's not just war.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: They are also expendable in the service of industry and
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: developing infrastructure. I mean, there's a there's a certain amount
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: of men who die creating the Hoover Dam. Usually, there's
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: a certain amount of men in the past who died
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: with every skyscraper, with every mile of railroad, with the
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: tunnel under the Thames. You know, there are men who
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: die for our infrastructure, and we are okay with it
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: because we believe that men's lives are expendable in the
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: service of building things that benefit everybody. Remember I talked
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: about how that civilization is an emergent property of men.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: That's probably one of the reasons why. Because men will
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: see themselves as expendable in the service of providing for
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: their families and building these things that provide for everyone. Right,
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: And war is just another It's just the stupidest manifestation
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: of that. Because in war we see men's lives as
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: expendable for solving intractable political conflicts. So our politicians fuck
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: up and then they're like, well, let's go to war,
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: a stack up some bodies, and whoever stacks up the
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: high amount of dead men wins, right, and then and
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: then the political issue is solved. It's just because we
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: think that men are expendable in service of solving political issues.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: That's it. And who teaches us all that men are expendable? Right?
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: Is it?
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Men?
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Do you think if men were responsible for this they
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: might stop that. I don't know, maybe they would continue it.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Maybe this is just a biological thing or is do
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: women have a have some a role to play in
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: raising their sons to regard themselves as expendable by saying things, well,
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: if little Lucy hits you, you just gotta swallow it, Timmy,
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: because your feelings are expendable. Okay, just land it out there,
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: just a thought.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: It's fine. I was just gonna say again, just to
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: show that this isn't the new thing. We have done
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: lots of reactions to women calling for violence and assassinations
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: on TikTok and YouTube and everywhere else for anybody that
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: they don't like. And this goes way back, Like I
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: remember when the Black Lives Matter stuff was started by
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: women and they used Floyd as they're like, let's say,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: proxy to encourage people to like loot and burn and
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: steal and murder because people were murdered and people were
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: attempted there to kill Kyle Rettenhouse and women motivated that.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Yvette Falarka and other like people in Antifa were women leaders.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: A lot of these are women leaders, and and all
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: the people who are calling for various assassination attempts on
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, of which there were two. Someone showed up
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: at Nick Fointes's house with a gun to kill him.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: There was a bunch of like politicians at a baseball
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: game that were shot at. And you can find videos
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: of women in their cars or on their beds or
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: in their homes, like laying on the couch eating bond bonds,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: and they're just calling for murder like some kind of
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: French aristocrat. They but they're not the ones that actually
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: put themselves in harm's way. They just go online and
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: say I hope a brave man steps up and does something. Yeah,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: And some man at some point says, oh, I'm gonna
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: do this for milady, and they do it like and
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: like if we can't acknowledge the fact that there are women,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not even saying, you know, like that there are
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: women who exist that do this, and that there are
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: men who respond to it. And that's only because the
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: women can't do it themselves. Otherwise they would if they
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: were weak enough, because they obviously you can find videos
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: and stuff of women abusing the week when they want
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: to like children, and that still happens, and we still
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: don't take it seriously. So I'm just saying that, like,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: this isn't shocking to me because I've seen it for
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: years and years and years, and I'm sorry if it
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: shocks shoe, because I understand how shocking that can be.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: But but yeah, it's it's not new so uh stochastic terrorism, Yeah,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: that's what it is. Yes, it's like saying, well, here's
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: so and so's house and address. Man, it'd be a
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: shame of something happened to him. And if a woman
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: says it I'm scared, I feel unsafe, then yeah, there
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: might be a man who will go and do something
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: So last year they realized how many people would celebrate
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: the murder of a president, and this year they realized
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: how many people would celebrate the murder of them. At
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: the end of the day, this is all the inevitable
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: conclusion of the punch a Nazi thing from like twenty seventeen.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: Do you guys remember that we always knew it was
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: a slippery slope. That's why we were against it. And
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: they always say this, Well.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: There's something older than that. Though boys are stupid throw
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: rocks at them. Hm. Anyway, I'm gonna jump ahead to
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: more women screaming online. Did we already do this part?
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: Let me see. Yeah, this is when she intended to
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: go fuck with him. There, We'll go here, uh, Charlie Kirk,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: the modern cultural warfare has left the engaged. The left
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: is engaged in right now, has done more damage to
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: America in four years, and the conservative boogeyman of socialism
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: has ever done in the lifetime of our nature, and
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: kind of rethink our priorities and calculate a proportional response.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: We love to see growth, Charles. If capitalism is so great,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: why haven't they made a capitalism too.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: I'm about like Bernie Sanders. I made an egg look
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: like his face. It is safe to say I was
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: no fan, but this has really shaken me in a
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: way that I absolutely did not expect. These last few
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: days after what happened, I kept going to every single
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: like lefty liberal, left wing person I know and like
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: checking out what they have been saying about this. And besides,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: maybe like four or five every single one was being
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: an unhinged psychopath about this. Or saying some backhanded shit
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: like this is why we need gun control, which, first
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: of all, we were just watching a whole bunch of
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: people celebrate killing someone over political differences. You are never
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: taking our guns. Now that that is not happening, I
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: felt like I was in the middle of the ocean.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: I was trying to like grasp onto a flotation device,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: checking all of these accounts for their take, like be normal,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: be normal, nothing nobody. I'm just drowning in a sea
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: of evil. Apparently maybe I was just blind up until now.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: Maybe they changed, maybe I changed. Is everyone going crazy?
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: Or am I going crazy?
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: I don't good life.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: They have not changed, and you probably have. But I'm
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: telling you, you're just seeing the truth.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: I don't like.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: Remember when Shoe made her video about out men the
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: male lonliness thing, and she like got a bunch of
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: videos from her friends on the left, and they were
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: all like, fuck men, the same people show. It's the
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: same people. They haven't changed. You're just seeing them for
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: what they are.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. And you thought that they were fellow
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: travelers because you might have agreed on some ethical principles,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: and little did you know that they were basically some
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: kind of I mean, demonic entity deciding that those are
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: the principles that it's going to use to manifest itself. Yeah,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: I hate using the dehumanizing language.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: But they're demons. Yes, it's it's I'll just say it's evil.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, like everyone's calling them demons now, but I
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: mean it is evil behavior. But that's what I saw
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: for a long time. And I don't, like, I don't
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: want to you humanize anyone, but that's just what I'm seeing.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: Like I'm just it's the reality. Like I'm sorry, you know,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: we we wrestle, not with flesh and blood anyway.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: All I know is it is clear how they reacted
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: to this is how they would react to me, my family,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: my friends, you, your family, your friends that have ever
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: stepped out of line from the nebulous, ever changing definition
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: of progressive. These are people I thought were level headed.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: They were left wing, but you know, like they were
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: one of the good ones, like you can joke with them.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: You know, they weren't those like woke sj w's, Like
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: they were cool, we can disagree and still be friends.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: You know, Well, your friends.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't celebrate you being murdered, of course, but if they
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: would celebrate an exact pone of you that was you,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: that had all the same opinions or some of the
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: opinions that you have, if they would celebrate that clone
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: being murdered, They're not your friend. I'm friends with people
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: who are friends with Charlie, and I see how they
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: are completely broken about this, seeing them like this, and
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: then at the same time my other friends posting shit
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: like rip bozo, it's just sick. It's just sick shit.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: Personally, Yes, it's sick, you know. And where do you
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: go from here?
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: Oh? We have to Where do we go from here?
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Do you have an idea before I say something?
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Oh? No, you go ahead, and maybe I'll say something after.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: We have to stop bickering amongst ourselves. We have to
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: like come together because we are dealing with murderous assholes.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: And I've been saying that for a long time. And
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: there are people who will kill you, and then there
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: are people who will make excuses for you getting killed,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: and we have to basically treat them, and we have
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: to outcast them. We have to alienate them. We have
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: to like just they can't be We can't talk to them.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: They don't want to. They know what they're doing is evil.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: They want what is the saying sam Hi had is saying,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: they want you dead, They want your family dead, they
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: want your children brainwashed and raped, and they think it's funny. Like,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it is. And I'm sorry. It's
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: like I don't want to draw a line in the sand.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: They drew it. But I'm telling you, this has been
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: the thing for a long time and I'm just done
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: playing nice with these people. I mean even I didn't,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: but like, this is the reality. This is what we're
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: looking at. And when I saw what happened to Charlie,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: I didn't think, like, oh my god, my favorite right
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: wing like commentator died. Like I didn't even watch his content,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: And as far as I could tell, he was probably
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: the most mid moderate dude ever. So if they would
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: be willing to do that to a super moderate, reasonable
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: guy who was willing to talk to people and was
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: definitely against violence, what would they do to somebody like me?
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, like I told my I thought my mother
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: in law about this, and she was very worried for
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: Lindsey and myself. Now, granted it's a bit egotistical to think, oh,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: I'm just the same. But and I don't obviously think that.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: But the truth is is that, like that is a
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: thing that we have to consider, you know. And I
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: spoke to when I was up in Canada, I reached
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: out to Jennifer Daw. You guys remember Jennifer Daw. She
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: was a game developer, big gamer Gate person. Knew American McGee,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: the guy who created the American McGee Alice series. And
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: I said, I wanted to meet up with Jennifer because
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: we saw her at the very first meet up we
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: went to back in you know, twenty fifteen or whatever
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: it was, and Jennifer said that she didn't want to
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: get out of bed because of the assassination. And it
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: was because she said that an attempt on her life
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: was made because of her views. Jennifer Daw is an
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: an cap. That's it. She's just a super libertarian and cap.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: And she now lives she's like homesteading outside of the
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: city of Calgary somewhere, like raising rabbits and barely posts online.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, that's how close it is.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Like Jennifer is somebody I know, and she was in danger.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: American McGee's sister was in danger, like this isn't free
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: and shit, that's out of reach, you know. So, like,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: I think that we really have to rethink how we
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: stand with people who are not crazy and don't want
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: us dead, even if we don't agree, and we have
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: to in my opinion, we have to like reach out
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: to them and be like, dude, I'm not going to
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: kill you. Let's be friends. Will work out our differences later.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: Right now, we have to deal with Cuthulhu because that's
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: what it is, right So that's that I mean, that's
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: that's what I think. Yeah, I was that mister three
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: or three said Brian was nearly one of the January
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: sixth people. Yeah, I was ready to go. I was
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: gonna go to January sixth and talk to people, and
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: I Lindsey was like, don't go, I mean, and I didn't,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: but I could have been not only like imprisoned for
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: being there for like six years or whatever however long
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: it was five and a half something like that. No,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: it was like it was like eight years almost because
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: it happened in twenty twenty and they didn't get out
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: until twenty twenty or twenty Yeah, so twenty twenty five anyway.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that's what I think.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I don't know what to say. But you
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: guys who think that being on the right side of
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: history or advocating for some kind of utopia justifies political
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: violence against the people who agree with you, you are That's
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: not the way. And I wonder if the end goal
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: isn't the actual violence, isn't actual the power, the actual
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: power and control, isn't actually feeling other people feel fear
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: r if that isn't your end goal, and you're so
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: called virtues or just excuses, right, this is not this
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: is not this is not the way forward. You guys
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: aren't progressive. Somehow, thinking yourself so progressive, you became throwbacks.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: And I think it might be because you know the
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: same thing that happens when we don't hold women to
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: standards and women descend to the standards we don't hold
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: them to. When you think that your belief system puts
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: you above human morality, then you are going backwards rapidly. Yeah,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: Or it puts yourself above whatever you want to call it, karma,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: treating your neighbor as you wish yourself to be treated, right,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. You think that you
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: are above the harms you do others and you're not.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: No political position puts you above the harms you do others,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: and no abstraction from oh this speech or this action
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: in the abstract it harms people. That doesn't excuse you
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: going out and physically harming someone. Okay, yeah, all.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: Right, I got a couple of superchows. Cool, So thank you.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: Zara ANX gives us five and says the government needs
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: to find a way to revitalize the dollar. Our government
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: has been hollowing the dollar. I equate it to a
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: bag of beans made less substantial until there's half a
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: bean in a bag, and we need multiple bags with
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: half a bean in it to manage our needs. At
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: some point, we can't manage enough carts to hold said
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: bags to buy a load of bread. This is why
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: I absolutely disagree with the statists, the people clamoring for
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: higher wages. Charlie Kirk is all so one of those,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: and agree with those saying Republicans that are progressive are
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: going the speed limit. Oh, Republicans are progressives going to
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: the speed limit? I'd say they're cruising though, thank you, Zarans. Yeah,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's those solutions for sure.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, here's the thing nobody should be using, like
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: their claims of needing safety to take away other people's freedoms, right,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, within reason, people should obey traffic
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: laws when they're operating a motor vehicle and a forklift.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: But like that whole thing about for example, Koof where
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: the justification was that if we our freedoms created a
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: point zero zero zero one increase risk of possibly fatal illness. Well, sorry,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: that's life, and I think that's what Kirk, Charlie Kirk meant. Right.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: You can't make things safe, and the safer you make things,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: the less safe you are. Strangely enough, like, what is
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: that statement somebody who sacrifices freedom for.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Security security deserves.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: We'll get neither. Get neither because the people who are
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: willing to make that deal with you you don't want
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: to have power over you.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. Okay, so I got another super chow. Great
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: Indoors gave us. The little Great Indoors who was at
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: the meet up, by the way, gave us five dollars
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: and says this is in regard to the tweet reaction
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: of show to that of Charlie being in favor of
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: the state forcing people to pay for something that doesn't
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: result in any productivity, is using the threat of state
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: violence as a means to an end. The entire philosophy
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: of the left has this viewpoint as its foundation. They
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: have top down solutions for every problem they encounter, increasing
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: the amount of state threat to violence along the way.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: In my opinion, it's no wonder we end up at
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: these societal or yeah, societal crossroads. Yeah. I mean they're
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: already using violence when they use the state, so that's
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: why they're okay with violence. Zara Ax gives us a
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: super chat for five and says, the interesting thing about
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: BLM is that was allegedly started by a black man
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: to get black people to recognize we matter, and then
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: it was taken over. Well, that's interesting, and I think
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: I feel like I knew that. So BLM was originally
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: started by a black man to recognize in the black
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: larger black population that black men matter and they exist.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: That can't be allowed. We have to rewrite that so
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: that we write what do they say that we we
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: we disrupt the the uh, Yeah, like the nuclear family,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna have children raised by parents and communities
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: and villages and non binary people and trans people, but
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: not men, not definitely not men, but everybody else is
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: allowed to participate in the raising of children. And I
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: got something I want to read because til Deer is watching.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: He's commenting on Rumble. So he says, it is a
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: religious belief in the Forever Revolution to free people's souls
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: from their bodies at the end of history. They don't
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: know that. They don't know that, but it is the
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: foundation of their thought. Their morality is the spark of
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: the divine of the Godhead trapped in the material you
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: preventing them from releasing. That is you putting your morality
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: above the divine. They literally think they have a heavenly
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: mandate while not realizing they are religious. That's part of
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: what makes this leftist cult so dangerous. Also, black men
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: are the white people of black people. Okay, so TiAl
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: Deer is well read on this. Okay, let's keep going.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: I would rather live in a world full of Charlie
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: Kirk's who would sit down and debate than a world
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: full of people who agree with me but would murder
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: people who don't. Because if it's now normalized to just
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: murder people who disagree with you, politically, we don't have
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: a society like that's it, it's over, But some of
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: these people we do.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: If we get rid of everybody who wants to do that.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: And I don't mean like get rid of them, I
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: mean like kick them out of the country or something,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: put a put them on the ice floe, stend them
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: out and let them have their society over there, you know,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: mm hmmm.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: In particular, like why the fuck are you celebrating you?
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: They think you're a Nazi too. They'll make a nice
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: compilation of all the hot takes you've had over the
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: years and spread it around to justify your murder. Yep,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: you don't get it, do you? We are all Charlie Kirk.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: I have been doing this for eleven years. I have
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: been harassed.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: In twenty eighteen with the Nazi The Boss show, CNN
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: show us the Nazis in Boston. That's the video that
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: I did. I pointed this out, this should terrify anyone
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: because it doesn't matter what you say or what you believe,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: this tool they call you a Nazi, will justify any
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: violence against you. And I pointed out that the powers
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: that be, the media, the government, the big corporations, They
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: love a tool like that because they can remove anyone
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: with it, they can silence anyone with it, and because
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: nobody's allowed to have free speech, the person they call
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: a Nazi can't tell you different.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: As soon as they're labeled a Nazi, that's it for them.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: They're done. And this tool is now ruling our political discourse,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: and it's not a discourse. We remove it entirely until
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: nobody nobody put an accusation of being a Nazi is
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: not credible, it's ridiculous, and nobody acts on it. But
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: I don't, like, I don't know how to like talking
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: about going forward, I don't know how to deprogram these people.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: That's what we need. We need the Deprogramming Women. Oh serious,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, the Deprogramming Women series, like because I
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: think that if you can do that, I bet other
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: things will fall into.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: The Oh well, it's like it's like Maywest said, when
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: women go bad, men go right after them. It's just
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: and the thing is that it's it is women because
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: it's always women first. Like sometimes I think that a
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: lot of men don't know what the hell they're doing.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: They just follow women.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: Well, they presume that women are more you know, what
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: do we tell them? Women are more emotionally intelligent, women
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: are more virtuous, women are more they're just better people.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: So they We've conditioned at least one, if not multiple
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: generations of men, probably going all the way back to
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: the boomers, to defer to women for their moral compass.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: And women have led that, I think, And I think
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: that's why. And of course when women lose lose that
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: because you know, there are no standards, so they just
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: get to just be however they want. Then the men
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: will follow them.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, And so why is it women first? Why is
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: it mostly women? Because it's always mostly women, Yeah, always
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: mostly women going into these moral chasms. We just swan
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: diving into them. Oh look evil, I'm just gonna on
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: out and jump in there.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: And it's women because men.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and and well you know it is the word
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: the saying goes. Men move in the shadow of women's desire.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: So women say they like a certain thing, then men
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: go right after them. Well, I don't know if we
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: this video is in here, this clip is in here,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: but there is a woman who says, whoever kills Charlie Kirk, Like,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: that's how you get a woman, That's how you find
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: a woman.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: So she was literally saying, if you kill, if you
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: kill you see if I can find the clip here,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: if you kill, if you killed someone for women in
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: the beginning, you is it?
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: It might have been the compolition Yeah, yeah, I think
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: it was.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, so if you if you kill people
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: like Charlie Kirks, that's how you get laid.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: Whoever their enemies are.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's how you get female approval.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: How do you think wars started in the past?
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, who do you think with sable rabbit?
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: Sable saber rabbit at least? And then and then feminists
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: of the audacity to say who who starts worse? What
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: women start wars? It seems like from what I've been seeing,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: and it's men who are expended in ending them, because honestly,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: what the whole war, part of war is really just
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: ending it. All of this war really starts in the
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: beginning when you have all of these women that say, oh,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: if you just go out and kill a hunt, you
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: know that it's gonna get you cucci, you know, and
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: all this other agitating and wanting and desiring and promoting
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: resentments between groups of people, right like what you see
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: with the terrorist organization. It's the women who do the recruiting,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: who maintain the resentment and the finances and the continuity. Well,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: that's you've just writ large in there. You have a
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: nation agitating for war because it's women are saber rattling.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: They start the war. It's the men who end it
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: at the cost of their lives. The greatest fiction we
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: ever bought into was this idea that women are somehow
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: better than men, Like I'm I'm clinging with my with
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: my frickin fingernails to the idea that women aren't profoundly worse.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: I know, maybe this will make people laugh, like that
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: women aren't actually so much worse than men, like I'm
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: clinging to the idea that this is this situation that
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: we see right now is because we've had generations of
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: women being taught that they have nothing to take responsibility
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: for and they don't have to consider the emotions of
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: anybody but themselves and their pet social projects, right, which
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: often just amount to having guilt tools to inflict on men.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: Like I'm really holding on to this idea that no, actually,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: the problem is that women aren't held to any kind
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: of standard it's not in women itself and women themselves, right,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: I'm clinging to that with my fingernails, and over and
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: over there are women who come and start trying to
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: batter that notion out of my hands, like I'm just
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: clinging to it. I'm like, okay, okay, if we hold
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: women to standards, they would be as good as men,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: they would be. I'm clinging to this, and I have
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: women after women after women trying to batter that out
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: of my hands. Like what I'm clinging to, which is
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: the notion that it wouldn't be better for women to
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: be replaced with sex spots with wounds like that. Maybe
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: there is a point to all of this, and there
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: is a point at which something is revealed that makes
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: it all make sense, and that women actually live up
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: to something and justify the amount of shit that they
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: get to exist. Do you get what I'm saying, Brian,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: to justify the fact that men have done so much
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: to provide safety, security, and wealth and comfort to women,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: that there is something that women will do. So if
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: I'm waiting, let's wait, Okay, there's got to be something.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: There's gotta be right. I'm clinging to that, and let
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: me tell you my biggest enemy to clinging to the
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: notion that women have value is women. Okay, misogynist rant
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: over all right.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: I got a comment from tildere I want to read again,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: Thank you kill dear for your input. Women replace God
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: as the spiritual center of the home to forgive men
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: of their sin gathered outside the home, another feminist spiritualist moral.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: It all goes back there every time. And then he
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: says every genocide in history is just the logical endpoint
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: of women can't fighting each other? Thank you? Yes, okay,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: I like that, doesn't it? It does? It does.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: What we're seeing in social media sort of confirms that
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: my suspicion, uh huh, like every political thing that we're
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: dealing with can be can be. It's reduced down to
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: two groups of women arguing over some shit, including roads
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: for women.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: Yep, okay and whatever you name it for eleven years
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: by the left, and it hasn't moved me an inch
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: because that's not how politics works. That's lunch table politics.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: People on your side being mean to you doesn't mean
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: you overnight change your opinions on like healthcare. It doesn't
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: work that way. I still have all my economic left opinions.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: I'm for strong social safety nets, workers rights unions, wealth caps, whatever.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: That has not changed. This is not me leaving the
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: least because frankly, I don't even know how to do that.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: This is me and many many people looking around us
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: at our so called allies and realizing that even though
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: we might share some like political opinions, we fundamentally do
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: not have the same values or morals. And are we
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: really allies if we agree on like taxes but don't
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: agree on the sanctity of human life?
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just gonna move ahead a little bit. So
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: still economic left, So that's fine, your business. So I
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: think that, uh, I'm.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: Not economic left, but I'm willing to have an economic
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: discussion with a dirty Keynesian.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: Kenesian.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: Sorry that no, I mispronounced it.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: I mispronounced it canuck canusin what Canadian?
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: No I mispronounced the word?
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what's the word?
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: Kajian?
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: Kensian?
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: Kensian? A dirty Kensian? Yes, yeah, information was eventually conveyed.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, I got it all right.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: Anyway, the way we view death now is just crazy,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: and I feel like a lot of that has to
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: do with the desensitization in part thanks to the Internet.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but she she explains that
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: people can look at Gore online and so they become
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: desensitized and they don't think it's happening. I think it's
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: more maybe that that the Charlie Kirk has been and
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of people on the right and MRAs have
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: been sufficiently dehumanized. Remember we used to talk about or
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: Alison made a video about dehumanizing language. Men in particular
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: have been dehumanized for a long time. So when men die,
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: like people, especially people who are kind of let's say,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: what's the word I'm looking for, sheltered from this stuff,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: they don't have a normal reaction. Like how many people
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: when Warren Ferrell was going to that he went to
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: Toronto to talk and there were all those protesters outside,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: like fucking scum girl back in when was that twenty
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: twelve or something, and they were they probably if he
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: would have died, they would have celebrated it. So I
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: don't think if if he would have died on camera U,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: they probably would have celebrated. I don't think that this
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: is a new thing. I don't. I mean me, I'm
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: I'm fine, you like I'm I'm open to being proven
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: wrong about that, but I don't think. I think it's
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: because these especially these women that are making these videos online,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: like their whole life is organized around the sort of
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: like cultural stories. That's why they're always referencing, you know,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: Harry Potter and The Handmaid's Tale, because they don't live
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: in reality. They live in like TV world, Like they
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: watch TV and they watch movies, and they see people
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: dying in film and television, and and like they get
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: this mindset that like people in the real world that
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: they dislike are just like the villains on TV. So
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: when they die, they're just like, oh, I didn't like
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: that guy. I didn't like that character. And I think
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: that's what it is. I don't think it's like cause,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, I have watched gore content online and when
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: I saw Charlie Kirk get shot, I was shocked. When
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: I saw that girl get stabbed on the on the train.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: I've seen people die, uh, you know, in real life
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: on videos, and it doesn't I'm not desensitized to it
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: because I know that's a real person, you know, that
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: has like family and friends. It's not like a character
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: in a movie. So okay, sorry.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's not you.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: I'm just and stuff like that, and what.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: Just you know, it's like cats didn't get a really
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: good night's sleep mm hmmm, because cats hate.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: Sleep only for you. They don't want you to get sleep.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're fine with their own sleep, and they prefer
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: you know, if if you disturb their sleep, they savagely
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: savage you. But you know they're fine absolutely ruining your sleep. Okay.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: And you see someone set on fire, if someone gets
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: stabbed on a train, and when someone like Charlie dies,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: it's not even real to people anymore. Like it's like
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: a movie or show. Oh that character died. People around you,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: you can't say to these people who are celebrating this
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: and justifying this, you can't say, what if that was
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: your dad or your brother getting killed for their opinions,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: because they've already cut those people off. They've already cut
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: those people off out of their lives, and posting videos
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: and pictures of Charlie's wife and young kids will not
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: move these people at all, because they hate their lives,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: they hate their families. They are atomized bug people. They
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: are the unfortunate product of modern society, and I feel
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: bad for them.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: I pity them, and I wish I could help them,
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: But I have bugman fatigue and for the people blind rage.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: List of all of Charlie Kirk's biggest hits to convince
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: me that I should hate him and should not mourn him.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: If you thought what Charlie Kirk said is wrong, you
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: could have debated him. He was one of these people
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: left willing to do that, and now he's gone. Charlie
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: was a fan of free speech. But I'm worried whoever
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: comes after Charlie won't be like even from a political standpoint,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: not even.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: Oh no, the backlash. They murdered a guy, the next
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: guy might be might be like less like for free speech.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. But okay, the backlash, No, I'm I.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: Think I know understand what she's saying. What, well, maybe not,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: maybe I'm reading into it. But here's the thing, all right.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: We have a society in which people can engage in
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: these kinds of discussions, or we did, and because of that,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: that is where prosperity and advancement comes from. It comes
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: from freedom of speech, and it comes from a society
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: that enables that kind of cooperative communication of ideas. And
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: and that enables more political solution, like more more the
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: increatess a larger pool of solutions politically. I can go
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: into more historically about that. But when one side, i'll
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: use the word side starts, starts the process of destroying
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: this kind of civil civil conversation. So the left basically
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: brings a club like a bludgeon to the discourse. Eventually
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: the right is going to have to abandon civil discourse
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: because you can't have it. When you're being beaten to
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: death with a club, you have to pick up a
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: club and fight back, and through no fault of the
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: people responding to the club, civil discord dies.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's what she's saying.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: There might be, it might be.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 5: But.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: Honestly, there and you can't, like, you can't sit there
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: and say, well that's that. You know, I don't understand
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: why the right picked up a club. Yeah, you understand.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: Because they don't want to end up being killed. They
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: don't want to end up being rolled into a mass grave.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: They don't want to end up being you know, murdered
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: in ovens. They don't want to end up being put
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: in concentration camps. Right, so they have to pick up
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: a club and respond in kind. But that moment all
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: discourse dies. Yeah, and that is the end. Like that
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: is the pinnacle of our civilization and everything after downhill.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: And there's like I said, you can't say, oh, while
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: I don't understand why the right did that, of course
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: you understand. So this dance requires both sides to be
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: willing to engage in it. And when one side decides
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: that they're no longer willing to engage in it and
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: they're willing to embrace violence as a tool as a
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: political tool, it's over. That's the end. So when I
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: say we need to deprogram these people, I'm not kidding. Like,
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: if we don't, this is this is where we want
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: our society decrest, then then we can't. We can continue
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: to respond in kind. What we are aren't even starting
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: to respond in kind. But eventually it will happen. Eventually,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: it will happen. It has to happen, right, And even
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: I would even argue that maybe widespread killing hasn't happened.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: But the censorship, the getting people fired, that is is
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: lowering the tenor of discourse and trying to erase it
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: from civil society, which means that when you stop being
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: able to talk freely. When you stop being able to
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: exchange ideas freely, that's the top. Everything after is down.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: And if we don't want that, then somehow we have
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: to deprogram these people. Like you said, deprogrammed women, they
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: sort of are coming from them.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: Well, it's the same. I think it's the same. It's
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: the same, it's the same DNA. So yeah, deprogramming women
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: is probably like more relevant than ever in my opinion
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: in terms of like, you know, I don't know seeing
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: like change. I mean in my day to day life,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: I don't see any issues, but I'm in a different
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: kind of community. But I think that, like you know,
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: it's something that we're going to have to confront for
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: other people's benefit, I suppose.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean I agree, like I don't see many
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: issues in my community either, not, you know, I mean
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: I see people who sort of reflect some of the issues.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: So I've heard, like women talk about their dating in
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: a very callous and cruel way here, and I've I've
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: heard like there's a there is a there is an
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: extreme radical MiG town in my town now, which is
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: pretty surprising since it's a small town. You know, Jonathan
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: actually had a conversation with him, and I'm like, so
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: the stuff is here, but for the most part, people
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: are just getting on with getting on. And I think
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: part of it is because the town still sort of
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: has an identity of who built it, so we know
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: the families that were part of building it and and
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: all that. So there's there's there's like a more of
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: an identity here. But yeah, this but it's not just
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: about like general chaos everywhere. It's about striving for something more,
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: Like are we striving for something more anymore? That that's
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: that is part of the pinnacle thing, right, we stopped striving,
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: we stopped dreaming, and that's this is what they're destroying.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're destroying lives. They're destroying livelihoods. They're also
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: destroying dreaming and creativity and striving and human expression. It's
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: why everything they produce is absolute trash. I mean, it
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: used to be that more liberal minded people could create
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: beautiful works of art, but suddenly it's like it's all awful.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: I can show you something, Okay, go ahead to that point,
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: let me find it. Hold on a second. So this
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: was something that someone worked on. This is a it
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: looks like a rock and they painted it. I'm not
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: really sure if it would if it's supposed to be
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: something else, but they painted it and they drew like
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk on the side and it says, if you
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: believe in something, you need to have the courage to
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: fight for those ideas, not run away from them or
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: try to silence them. Charlie Kirk nineteen ninety three to
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. And then activists came along and they
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: just graffitiized it and just put BLM on it for
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: some reason. And I have a video of the person
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: who did it, and I thought that was interesting because
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: it was like showing, yeah, here we go, University of
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: North Carolina, Wilmington. There's the wait, he said, on my page?
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: Where's my page at? I should go back to uh
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: here where they showed the person defacing it. I have
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: a video of it. Yeah here. It is so so yeah.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: They're killing creative too on purpose, and it is it is.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: The goal is uglification of everything, and the purpose of
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: that is to demoralize. And that's another reason why they
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: aggress too against people, because you know, when these protests happen,
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: what do what does antifa do? What do the protesters do.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: What does BLM do. They show up with their umbrellas
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: or whatever, and they try to get people to hit them.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: They try to get they they antagonize violence. They're trying
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: to get violence, and usually they don't, but they do everything.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: Remember when they poured urine on Lauren Southern's head, this
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: was like a long time ago. Or when they kicked
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: the shit out and you know, and gave him. I
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: think it's some brain damage and we had a little
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: bit of brain damage. You had to go to the hospital.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I can go on and uh yeah.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: They want things to escalate because they want to be
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: victims of that, because then they can justify, you know,
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: using the state to kill their enemies because they they
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: think their enemies are the devil. So it's the only solution. Anyway.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: I just let the cat back in. Okay, cat's backed
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: the very next day, I guess the cat came back.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: Thought it was a gunner, but the cat came back away.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: This is like classic Canadian Canadian.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: I remember that song. I remember that song. Okay, I
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: got a super chow another one. Thank you from the
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: one good man who gives us. Let me see how
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: we're doing on the live stream, we got we got
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: like over one hundred people watching.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 5: So.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: Five dollars. Many women also seem more shocked that a
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: hot blonde did a jeans advert than that a hot
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: blonde was horrifically murdered on a train. They also seem
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: shocked by the reaction. Well, the woman who was murdered
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: on the train wasn't wasn't competition for these women, Sidney
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: Sweeney was That's why? Uh, well ahead, yeah.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: Like that is a good point. Yeah yeah, but but again,
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: like I just went through with uh grok finding out
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: that there is an intervention that could substantially reduce the
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: rate at which women experience domestic violence, and feminists are
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: no doubt impeding it because they want to promote their ideology. Yep, yeah,
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: they don't give a crap about women. Mm hmm, Like
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: it's it is just that that's just what they chose
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: because we give a crap about women. And then they
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: tell us, oh, you guys don't give a crap about women,
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: and if you give a crap about women, which you don't,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: you'd give us money and do what we say, and
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: of like idiots, we agree to that.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: Like idiots, because the funny thing is again that these
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: women who these feminists don't care about women. All they
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: care about is using women to get money and control people.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: And they're using the fact that the people they say
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: don't care about women do care about women to get
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: that money in control. Astounding, isn't it. It's disgusting? Actually,
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: all right, continue, sorry, it's okay.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: Nova Fan twenty one gave us a rumble rant for
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: one dollar and says the lefties who are upset at
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel getting quote unquote canceled have no room to
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: talk about free speech. They demanded we get fired from
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: our jobs when accused of racism and transphobia. Don't don't
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: don't forget Also for going to school or work when
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: you weren't supposed to or yeah or what.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: Or being accused of misogyny or having.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: The wrong or going through a convention with the wrong
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: opinion right or or yeah.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: Or or in Johnny Depp's case, being the victim of
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: abuse yep, you know, on an allegation by a woman.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: They also supported that, you know that, did you know that?
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that more men have been canceled over
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: allegations from women than anything to do with transphobia. Mm hmm, okay, But.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: The wokies are also calling to boycott Disney because, like
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel's show is on ABC and ABC is owned
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: by Disney, so they're calling for boycott's. Even the woman
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: who played she Hulk is like, I I suggest you
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: all stop stop subscribing to Disney Plus. And I'm like,
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: I think I thought you caused us to stop subscribing,
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: if anything, No, but so yeah, I guess I like
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: Disney now, or like the people who work at who
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: work there.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: Well, alternatively, you don't subscribe to Disney Plus because it's it's.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: Trash that's worth watch. No, it's all it's all trash. Yeah,
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: I haven't. Why I haven't. I never had an account
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: never so, but it's just really funny that the the
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: Disney has fire Jimmy Kimmel and now they're losing their
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: people too, and so I don't know what's going to
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: be left of it. It's gonna be a creator. But anyway,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: back to this stories, they could they could try doing that.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, here, I'll thump you here there you gommump.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: All right, let's keep going Okay, why are you celebrating
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 3: like the most popular college gen z political pundit dying? Like,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 3: why are you celebrating him becoming a murtyer? Say goodbye
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 3: to that young mail vote. All the liberal Joe Rogan's
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: in the world are not fixing this. I just hope,
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 3: for the sake of this country that political violence does
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 3: not become normalized, does not become a thing. I really
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 3: don't want to see that happen. I don't want to
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 3: see retaliation. I don't want to see us fall into
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 3: a civil war. I don't know. This has all been
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: extremely black pilling. I think I'm going to take a
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 3: break from politics. I don't know. I'm a YouTuber, like,
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 3: I'm not a political pundit, right, I'm not. My goal here.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 3: My purpose here is to entertain, is to make people laugh.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 3: That is what I'm going to do. That is what
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 3: I will continue to do. The news cycle will move on,
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 3: the world will move on. Charlie Kirk's kids won't move on.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: His daughter won't move on. His daughter does not have
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 3: a dad anymore. Noting sucks. That sucks. I don't know
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: what else to say. I love you, guys, Thank you
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: for listening. To my crash out. If you're new here,
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 3: my videos usually are not like this. They're actually nothing
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 3: like this.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: All right, I posit there? Uh again, credit where credit
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: is due. She acknowledges that ultimately that family lost its
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: father her mm hmm. And that's like just true. Of
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: course they felt like it was okay because fuck dads.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: Am I right? And I think that's another big part
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: of it. And they were saying that if you look
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: at the the clips of women, mostly women, celebrating it,
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: they were just like, fuck dads, fuck that kind of
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: dad especially. Yeah, So.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, Honestly, I don't know how even if he does
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: have his own opinion on transgenderism, I don't know how
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: you can exclude that, considering we don't really understand it,
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: if what what the what the precise phenomenon is and
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: properly diagnose it. Yeah yeah, but anyway, okay, yeah, this
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: she obviously is not it's quite upset by this.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, credit to her, although I mean, honestly, how can
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: you what do these people expect if they think that
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: anybody who doesn't agree with them, Oh my my my
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: phone is ringing.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: Somebody is trying to you froze.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's because.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: Of my floating. The cat is floating in your hand.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: There's something magic going on.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my arms look gigantic because they're close to the lens.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: I'm taking us to the gun show, guys.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: Not that I have really great guns. I just what
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: was I saying? Okay, so many things happened at once.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: My ADHD kicked in, and now I've squirreled and I
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: don't know where I am. It's a credit to her
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: that she's, uh, she's starting to question all this. I
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: don't know how you can continue to be friends with
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: somebody who would celebrate your murder if they didn't know you.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, have you seen some of the unhinged things that like,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to put it up on the screen
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: or anything, but because we're going to wrap it up.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: I think it's been two hours just about. But like
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: some of the mainstream moderate types like Destiny have been saying, oh, man,
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's well, like I said, I'm
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: just glad that I don't know those people personally.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 6: I have.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: I have, like you know, people that I know in
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: real life that are but I have lost a lot
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: of friends over the past ten years, and I feel
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: very dehumanized by them, which is really painful, you know.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: But I mean I already went through that. I went
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: through that years ago, sadly, So.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, just uh, I just tithed to the void. So
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: hopefully I'll have a few moments of peace.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: Hm hmm.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: I don't think I never really had friends, so I.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: Never went to Yes figured as much. Yeah main Street. Yeah,
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: Destiny is supposedly moderated. He calls himself the moderate liberal
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: for sure, and a lot of people consider that. I'm
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: telling you, though, that those distinctions don't matter anymore.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 2: So no, I mean, really, the only distinction is this,
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: are you? Are you a person who wants to use
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: words as a means to identify enemies and subjugate them,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: or are you somebody who uses words to convey concepts?
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: I think this is how language broke into so many pieces,
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: is that people no longer wanted to understand each other.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: And where I guess we're there again. We're at the
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: Tower Tower of Babel again, guys. And yes, I guess
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: I should continue my series deprogramming women so that we
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: can do something that I can present a possible explanation.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: It's it's yeah, it's essentially what happened is the guy
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: who I was working with it Eduardo. I don't know
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: what happened to him.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: And part of the guy who used to make the cartoons.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the cartoons, and so I had the higher production values.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: But now I mean, I'm.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: Working on might be able to get Luke to help
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: you out, but he's not going to be cheap.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a problem.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: You can get Luke to help you out. He's a
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: really good animator. I'm going to be talking to him
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: on Monday.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, good.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: And the other thing is I have this project that
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: I'm working on called Why Sally Rejects stew which is
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: sort of connected to the Deprogramming Women project, but it's
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: more about dating and greater implications the problems in dating
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: and they're greater implications for our society. So that's what
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: I guess I could call that part of Deprogramming Women.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: It's just I don't know. I like I really it
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: stumps me, guys, because the only thing I can think
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: of is that we need to have a new understanding
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: of the relationship between men and women and I don't
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 2: know if that really comes from a lot of women.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 2: If I look throughout history, it tends to just come
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: from a certain subset of women who hold very close
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: to a new set of values. Basically, like to use
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: the example the Sabine women who ended the war between
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: the Sabine men and the Roman men and thus founding Rome.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: We're probably like thirteen women, but they were very dedicated
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: to the values that they espoused. So maybe what we
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: need is just a very small kernel of women who
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: are willing to take responsibility, don't shirk from blame, and
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: are willing to actually negotiate something reasonable with men right
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: and willing to stop this insanity. Maybe it just takes
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: a small kernel of women willing to do that, and
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: then we can build from there. Maybe there's a way
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: that you can scale women like that. Maybe, or or
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: we just do sex spots with artificial wombs. Why not?
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So real quick on the Jimmy Kimmel thing, uh,
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: because some people are saying that, you know, this is
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: censorship and the FCC it was like, you know, more
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: pressure by the White House to take the show down.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: That's not true. I think that his show sucked. Nobody
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: watched it, and you can see that. Tim Poole gave
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: us some stats some that shows that the The Tonight
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: Show is It Tonight Show starring Jimmy Kimmel only got
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: average one hundred and twenty nine thousand viewers on I
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: think there are internet memes that get more views in that.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: I think that there are cat videos that get way
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: more views in that. I don't know if we are,
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: maybe we're catching up to the Tonight Show, but that's
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: what it is. The show sucked, nobody watched it, and
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: the FCC was like, oh, we can use this to
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: we can use what's happening right now with the criticism
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: and stuff to as an opportunity because Jimmy Kimmel lied
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  Speaker 1: about Charlie Kirk when he did his bid on him.
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  Speaker 1: He lied about the shooter, and so they were like,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna use this to cancel the show or at
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: least put him on. The hiaties didn't even cancel the show.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: They just put him. They suspended him, so he's not
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: even fired. So I'm telling you guys, don't let them
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: play victim on this because that's not true. And I
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: knew that. When I heard this, I was like, I
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: think it's because the show sucked and nobody watched it.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: Bring back Craig Ferguson and you guys will be fine.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: He'll hit on all of the guests. He's got a
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  Speaker 1: great Scottish accent, and he's a lot funnier than most
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  Speaker 1: of these guys. But that's just what I think.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean if he's lying about Charlie.
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  Speaker 1: He lied about Charlie Kirk and his killer.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, because one thing, it's one thing to make
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  Speaker 2: an off color, black humor joke that none of what
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  Speaker 2: we saw was that, just to deal with the misery
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  Speaker 2: of it, you know what I mean, and then celebrating
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: or lying about the person or lying about the situation
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  Speaker 2: like this is now you're I mean, they're there is
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  Speaker 2: free speech, but you can't slander people and you can't
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  Speaker 2: incite violence. I mean, I know you're a free speech absolutist,
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 2: I believe. Are you still a free speech job?
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: So you don't agree with Jimmy Kimmel being fired.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: Oh that's not but no, that's the thing is that's
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: him getting fired for having a shitty show. Like if
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: you don't do your job, well, you get fired. That's
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: not even if your job is talking, that's not like censorship.
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  Speaker 1: That's you sucking. That's why I said the show should continue.
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  Speaker 1: Get somebody that's good to be on it and make
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: the content good and maybe not just like TDS like
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  Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day. That's why I say, get
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  Speaker 1: Craig Ferguson. He's funny and I think he can keep
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: it light, you know, Okay, for somebody that's really good
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: at interviewing.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 2: Do you believe that the people who are celebrating this
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 2: should get fired celebrating?
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: Well again, I think of censorship or the First Amendment
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: as more of a government thing, not a company anything.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 2: I would say no, Yes, I say.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't. Well look I don't think
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: so either. But I mean I can't tell them not
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: to do the problem.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: Is this, they're the ones who now set the tenor
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 2: of engagement.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's what that exactly.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: I say, no, I don't think that's a good idea.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: But you guys don't think.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: To hold them to their standards because they don't. They
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: only do this to us because they know that we
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: have standards like, oh yeah, this is your principle. So
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: I'm going to hold you to your principle, but they
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: don't have principles.
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  Speaker 2: Basically, what I'm talking about the left has brought a
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: club to or a bludgeon to political discourse. Eventually they're
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 2: going to force their opponent to meet them on the
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 2: same level. And unfortunately that process is starting. So I
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: don't agree with it, but also it's karmic and I
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 2: can't stop it. Mm hmmm, Like, this is the level
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 2: of political discourse you've asked for, and you are going
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 2: to get it.
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: I've asked.
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 2: Leftists are people who spouse this stuff, who seem to
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: use it to enact their political aims. I'm like, okay,
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 2: so there is no compromise except that people agree with you,
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: so eventually this will come down to violence. Is that
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: what you want? And of course they came in han
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 2: and they don't answer this question. But ultimately, I think
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 2: that the real differences are people who are willing to
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 2: uphold the virtues of an advanced civilization, which include freedom
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: of speech and autonomy and all of these other things,
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 2: and those who seem to be unable to handle it.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: Those who came to this world modernity right, and the
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 2: civil society and they still see the world in terms
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 2: of violence and force, and they just can't handle it.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 2: They can't handle being civilized, so they have to burn
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 2: everything and bludge in everything and destroy everything that makes
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 2: them feel uncertain that they aren't in control. And that
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 2: really it comes down to that, right anyway. That's why
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 2: I say they don't have any virtues of principles except
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 2: a desire to control others. And that's behavior, like you
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 2: can see it in their behavior and you don't even
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: have to appeal to identities. Just that's their behavior. That
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 2: is the behavior that they're engaging in. And unfortunately they
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 2: are going to force the discourse to their level. They're
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 2: going to force it to their level because you cannot
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 2: respond to a bludge into the head with oh well,
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 2: I uh you know, uh that that was a fallacy
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 2: like that, that was you know, begging the argument that
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 2: was that was unsup, that was unsubsted, unsubsport support did
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: argument that you just gave, you know, like how you
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 2: can't All you can eventually do is respond in kind,
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: And conservatives are now responding in kind. Okay, Well, when
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 2: you're done, when the left is done setting the level
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 2: of discourse and the conservatives have to respond to it.
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 2: When that we all play this out, can we get
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 2: back to having discussions? Can we pick back to striving?
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 2: Can we get back to human expression and creativity when
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 2: when we've had it out? Can we get back to that?
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 2: But that's going to mean that the left has to
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 2: lose its certainty that they're right.
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know, and I was wrong. That's all
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: it takes all.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know and I was wrong.
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 1: Mm hm all right. Anyway, So no more super chat,
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 1: although we did get a few thank you for that
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: and super Chow super Chow's and rumble rants. So should we? Uh,
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 1: reality check says, I can understand to fire a health
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: co worker who was celebrating Charlie's death. Yeah, that doesn't
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 1: look like it's good for business, that whole that whole
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: oath you know, do no harm. Uh, that looks like
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 1: it's being called in a question. So again, Yeah, I
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: mean I don't want that, but you know, we're we're
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: going to live by their standards for a little bit
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: and see how they like it. So okay, anyway, so
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe there'll.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 2: Be some smartening up and being like, oh wait, actually,
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 2: uh actually freedom of speech is a good thing. And
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 2: it's not just government freedom of speech, it's also maybe
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 2: the employers shouldn't fire you for having opinions that don't
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 2: relate to your work, your ability to do the work
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 2: that you do. Stuff like that. You know, although that
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 2: teacher that forced kids to watch Charlie Kirk's death, that
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 2: person should.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: Be in jail.
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, absolutely, Okay, all right, So I think I
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 2: think we've covered this sufficiently.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fine, yep.
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 2: I think I think we've put in a you know,
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 2: a shift of work with these issues. Do you wanna well,
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 2: we'll call it an evening.
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's fine. Yeah. Last thing I'll say. So,
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 1: what does gamer gain have to do with this? Well,
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked. Apparently there is a Steam community
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 1: just like the cabrutus d what was it called? Uh,
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 1: sweet baby ink detected and then dee I detected. Now
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: there is a Charlie's tweets detected. So the gamers are
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 1: rising up again. Anyway, I thought it was funny. I'm
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: going to join it and I do the same.
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say this, firing people for celebrating a
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 2: murder seems a lot more justified than the firing that
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 2: that the other side has been engaging in. I'll say
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 2: that for.
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: Ten year old tweets are voting the wrong way, not.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 2: Masking black metal lyrics being black metal lyrics like that
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 2: that has been watching that has been astounding. And the
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 2: fact is that it's far more justified to fire these
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 2: people for their opinion for their absolutely repulsive behavior towards
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 2: the death of a man who did nothing to them
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 2: than all of the other ship that I've seen. So yes,
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 2: it is sort of meeting them at their level, but
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 2: it also seems a little more justified at the same time. Okay,
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 2: all right, I actually got some message like Janice Fumingo
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 2: wanted to join us.
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she has some some family health issues that
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 1: she's dealing with, right yeah, just like Karen.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 2: And but she said I sent her the pictures and
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 2: she had a little message, so I thought I would
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 2: read it out. Pictures look great. Thank you for these.
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 2: I'm sure I couldn't attend remotely. My admiration for the
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 2: Honey Badgers is deep. I don't know how you manage
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 2: to address current issues and such insight and knowledge. You
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 2: and Brian and Hannah are truly remarkable. Awe, I just
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 2: thought that. Yeah, thank you, Janie. That's very sweet of you,
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 2: and uh, I really appreciate those words. I thought I
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 2: thought we could use we could all use a pick up,
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 2: pick me up after.
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: I am encouraged. Anyways, Yes, I know, despite all these tragedies,
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 1: I think that it's like shaking. It's shake, it's red
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: pilling a lot of people. Yes, that much for sure.
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: So yes, sorry, but remember when I said, you know,
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 1: there must be more suffering before people wake up. I
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: think that we're getting there. We're getting there for some
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 1: we're not there yet, but we're getting Yeah.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Janis did a lot to help support the convention
• 2:07:02
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• 2:07:04
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