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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 244 | Previewing Browns vs. Jaguars, Predicting Headlines · Jags A.M.

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  Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome inside the Hyundai Studios at the
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  Speaker 1: Miller Electric Center. Time for Jags AM on a Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Brian Sexton. John Osher is here. Mark Duffner will
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  Speaker 1: be our third co-host on this show on Thursdays all
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  Speaker 1: season long, and he'll join us shortly. But let's get
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  Speaker 1: right to big things with John Osher, and we'll start
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  Speaker 1: with the first.
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  Speaker 2: Which is unknowns.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of unknowns at the start of every
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  Speaker 1: NFL season, but especially when you have a new head
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  Speaker 1: coach and a defensive coordinator in the Cleveland Browns, Mike Rutenberg,
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  Speaker 1: who's never been a defensive coordinator before. Liam Cohen understands
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  Speaker 1: that it took some work, and so they've been working
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  Speaker 1: on the Browns and investigating and finding out about this team.
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  Speaker 3: Since way back in the spring. He talked a little
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  Speaker 3: bit on Wednesday about dealing with the unknowns.
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  Speaker 4: I don't have his tape from last season. of his defense, right?
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  Speaker 4: I've got an idea. We've got some thoughts, we've got
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  Speaker 4: some cutups and all that. But so in game one specifically,
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  Speaker 4: I think you would just have to really be ready
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  Speaker 4: to adjust. Um, you've got to, it sucks to kind
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  Speaker 4: of carry volume, you know, cause you don't want to
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  Speaker 4: have too much volume, but you also need to have
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  Speaker 4: answers for, uh, maybe what they could throw at you. Um,
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  Speaker 4: what kind of game it becomes. And, um, yeah, you're,
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  Speaker 4: You're always a little bit, I don't want to say
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  Speaker 4: at a disadvantage, because we're all very even in terms
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  Speaker 4: of going into week one. We could have wrinkles, obviously,
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  Speaker 4: that they're not aware of that we didn't put on
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  Speaker 4: tape last year. But we're kind of going in a
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  Speaker 4: little bit more blind than maybe they are.
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  Speaker 3: John, it's hardly new.
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  Speaker 1: There are at least eight head coaches, it seems, every year.
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  Speaker 1: And so every team is dealing with it. What makes
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  Speaker 1: it interesting is what Liam talked about is you don't
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  Speaker 1: know how Todd Munkin, the new head coach, is going
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  Speaker 1: to deal with the new personnel. His quarterback is Deshaun Watson.
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  Speaker 1: It's not Lamar Jackson. Same thing on the defensive side.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know what Mike Grutenberg is doing or how
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  Speaker 1: he's going to adjust what he might have done with
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  Speaker 1: the Jets with what he's going to do now with
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  Speaker 1: the Browns personnel.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a couple of things I love about Liam
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  Speaker 2: in press conferences and He lets you in a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more than a lot of coaches, and he can't
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  Speaker 2: help but sort of tell you where he's at because
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  Speaker 2: he loves what he's doing so much. He really likes
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  Speaker 2: figuring out what he thinks the other team's going to
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  Speaker 2: do and then playing that chess game. He's a wonderful leader,
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  Speaker 2: but to me his superpower is being able to figure
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  Speaker 2: that out, getting in the film room, knowing what's going
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  Speaker 2: to happen on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: That makes this hard because... You.
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  Speaker 3: Sort of know what Rutenberg does.
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  Speaker 2: You sort of know the Browns' personnel, but there's no blueprint. Now,
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  Speaker 2: on the other side of that, Brian, don't think just
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  Speaker 2: because Liam was here last year that he's shown the
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  Speaker 2: Browns everything he's going to do. There's still a chess
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  Speaker 2: match Sunday. I think Liam's good enough for the Jaguars
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  Speaker 2: to win that, but absolutely it's a factor because he
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  Speaker 2: talked about volume there, and what he means is taking
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  Speaker 2: a lot of plays and a lot of answers.
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  Speaker 1: To the questions.
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  Speaker 2: You have to do more of that this week. And
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  Speaker 2: he did say a legitimate concern, overloading guys with.
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  Speaker 1: Too much information.
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  Speaker 2: That's his balance this week is not so much information
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  Speaker 2: that they can't play fast, but enough information to win
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  Speaker 2: the game.
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  Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that he's been demanding
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  Speaker 1: of his players this year, it's been a talking point
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  Speaker 1: for a long time, is our second big thing, and
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  Speaker 1: let's get physical. I walked around the locker room yesterday
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  Speaker 1: asking guys, what does that mean? Every coach talks about
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  Speaker 1: being the more physical team, winning the battle of physicality,
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  Speaker 1: and yet not everyone can do it as well as
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  Speaker 1: other teams do. So I thought it was interesting when
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  Speaker 1: they were talking about the run defense yesterday and asking
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  Speaker 1: about physicality. You know, are you ready to Josh Allen
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  Speaker 1: to face a Todd Munkin team to be the more
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  Speaker 1: physical team against the Munkin team? Because they know what
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  Speaker 1: Munkin's offense did against this defense a couple of years
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  Speaker 1: ago when they ran for more than 200 yards. Josh
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  Speaker 1: Allen had a pretty strong response.
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  Speaker 5: Our model is to stop the run. So by any means,
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  Speaker 5: they're not running that ball that much on us. So.
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  Speaker 5: I expect, you know, coming out and running the ball,
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  Speaker 5: his philosophy of how he sees the game, yes, I
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  Speaker 5: expect that. But, you know, 230 yards, that's not happening. So, respectfully.
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  Speaker 1: That was the mindset in the locker room, whether I
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  Speaker 1: talked to Robert Hainsey, the Jags center, who talked about
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  Speaker 1: it being a mentality and wanting to be more physical,
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  Speaker 1: or whether we talked to Josh Allen, who just laid
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  Speaker 1: it out.
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  Speaker 3: They're not running on us. And, of course, you talk
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  Speaker 3: to the head coach.
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  Speaker 1: He says, we will be the most physical team. For
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  Speaker 1: as much as we talk about throwing the ball in
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  Speaker 1: this league, it really does always come back to who
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  Speaker 1: wins the battle at the line of scrimmage.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was the secret sauce is the
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  Speaker 2: right word, but the thing that defined this team last year,
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  Speaker 2: that I don't know if everybody observing it noticed, was
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  Speaker 2: that it was the more physical team usually. When they
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  Speaker 2: were the more physical team, when they punched in the mouth,
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  Speaker 2: they usually won. That's definitely what they want to do
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  Speaker 2: this year. They want to run better. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: try it. They want to be that team. It's a
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  Speaker 2: hard team to do it against. The Browns, if they
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  Speaker 2: have a strength defensively, it's that front. It's their ability
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  Speaker 2: to be physical. The Jaguars, it's their identity anyway. They
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  Speaker 2: want to lean more into that identity. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that's the matchup this week, Brian. Can they be more
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  Speaker 2: physical than a Browns team that really probably isn't as
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  Speaker 2: good as the Jaguars on paper and all that stuff?
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  Speaker 2: But if they can be more physical, they got a shot.
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  Speaker 2: So that's where it's going to be won.
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  Speaker 3: And finally, our third big thing is defend Deshaun.
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  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson isn't the same quarterback he was when he
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  Speaker 1: was with the Houston Texans. No one is stating that case.
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  Speaker 3: And obviously, in the fall of 2024, he had the.
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  Speaker 1: Achilles injury that cost him all last season. But when
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  Speaker 1: he was here a couple years ago, John, in 2024,
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  Speaker 1: He ran for 20 yards and had 186 yards passing,
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  Speaker 1: and they won 18-13 because he just made enough plays
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  Speaker 1: here and there, running three yards for a first down
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  Speaker 1: at a crucial moment in the ballgame, finding his tight
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  Speaker 1: end on third down and six, again, at a crucial
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  Speaker 1: moment in the locker room. He's a savvy veteran player,
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  Speaker 1: and Josh Hines-Allen is a guy who knows him well,
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  Speaker 1: having faced him in all of those years with the Texans.
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  Speaker 5: He's a helping athlete, man. Stronger lower body. Breaks a
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  Speaker 5: lot of tackles and he does a really great job
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  Speaker 5: on extending the play. So we're gonna have to really,
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  Speaker 5: if one person holding him up, let me be the
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  Speaker 5: only one to hit him though. Don't want nobody jumping
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  Speaker 5: on my tackles. But everybody else holding him up, we
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  Speaker 5: all gotta populate to the ball.
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  Speaker 1: John, two years ago when the Browns came in here
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  Speaker 1: in week two and surprised the Jaguars, they did it
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  Speaker 1: because Deshaun Watson leaned on the running game in that defense.
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  Speaker 1: But he's just crafty enough to make enough plays, and
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  Speaker 1: it only takes two or three to turn the outcome
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  Speaker 1: of the game around.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he's a heartbreaker.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you will think you have him. You've played
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  Speaker 2: good defense. You feel like the first two downs you've won,
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  Speaker 2: and you're in third and four, and then he gets five.
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  Speaker 2: and then that happens two or three times in a drive.
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  Speaker 2: And all of a sudden the, uh, the Browns are
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  Speaker 2: in the end zone and you don't really know why.
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  Speaker 3: And you look back and so Deshaun.
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  Speaker 2: Only had, you know, 14 yards in this series, but
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  Speaker 2: they were 14 first down yards. So it's kind of quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: He is, it's kind of quarterback. He can still be, um,
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  Speaker 2: a couple of things. I believe that this is a
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  Speaker 2: much better, more fundamentally sound defense that the Jaguars had
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  Speaker 2: than they did in 24. And, uh, but he's going
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  Speaker 2: to make plays. The Browns scored 18 points in that game.
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  Speaker 2: Scored more than 18 points. The Jaguars scored 13, and
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  Speaker 2: it was a slog all day. That was a really
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  Speaker 2: bad offensive game, if you remember. This Jaguars team needs
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  Speaker 2: to score in the 20s. They're supposed to be a
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  Speaker 2: really good offense. They should be able to get away
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  Speaker 2: from the Browns and not have the few... Keep Watson's
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  Speaker 2: big moment plays limited.
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  Speaker 1: To below.
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  Speaker 2: What you get offensively.
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  Speaker 3: All right, there are your big things.
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  Speaker 1: Sunday's game, by the way, here against the Browns, a
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  Speaker 1: where shopping is a pleasure. When we return to Jags AM,
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  Speaker 1: we'll hear from the Cleveland side of things.
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  Speaker 6: Welcome into behind enemy lines where we check in with
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  Speaker 6: a media member from the opposing team for the jaguars
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  Speaker 6: this week in week one they're taking on the cleveland
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  Speaker 6: brown so we're taking checking in with ashley bastog cleveland.com
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  Speaker 6: and the orange and brown talk podcast ashley i am
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  Speaker 6: so excited to see regular season football i feel like
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  Speaker 6: you guys are probably in the same boat at this
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  Speaker 6: point Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 7: Especially because this was our second straight off season with
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  Speaker 7: a quarterback competition. So every rep is analyzed and overanalyzed
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  Speaker 7: and we're ready for the real games up here in
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  Speaker 7: Cleveland for sure.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 6: So update me a little bit on it. Obviously we've
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  Speaker 6: heard that Deshaun Watson was named the starter a couple
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  Speaker 6: of weeks ago. What is the sentiments with that and
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  Speaker 6: kind of going into this new season with a new
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  Speaker 6: head coach and everything and all the other changes?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, very interesting sentiment for sure. I'm not sure how
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  Speaker 7: much this news made it down to Jacksonville in the
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  Speaker 7: lead up, but in the final preseason game when Deshaun Watson,
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  Speaker 7: or the second preseason game I believe it was, played
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  Speaker 7: in the second half of their game against the Buffalo Bills,
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  Speaker 7: he kind of railed against Cleveland fans. a little bit
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  Speaker 7: after Shador Sanders started that game. He got booed in
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  Speaker 7: the third quarter of that game, and he kind of
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  Speaker 7: let some things go. And in 2024, which was the
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  Speaker 7: last time he started for the Browns, he ruptured his
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  Speaker 7: Achilles in a game against the Bengals at home. And
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  Speaker 7: some fans cheered when he got injured. So that had
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  Speaker 7: sort of been hanging over his head for the last
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  Speaker 7: almost two years. But his sort of outburst in that
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  Speaker 7: press conference, I think, had a lot of people, myself included,
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  Speaker 7: wondering if he would be the starting quarterback when week
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  Speaker 7: one came around in Jacksonville, just because it was such
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  Speaker 7: a big deal. Even though he had been leading and
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  Speaker 7: Todd Munkin came out a few days later, the Browns
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  Speaker 7: new head coach who they hired in the winter and
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  Speaker 7: did say he was going to stick with Deshaun, the veteran.
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  Speaker 7: So I will say for Deshaun Watson's reputation, I think
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  Speaker 7: nationally around the league, it does just seem like obviously
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  Speaker 7: Shador Sanders has much more popularity right now. But the
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  Speaker 7: one thing I will say about Deshaun is the teammates
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  Speaker 7: in that Browns locker room have always really enjoyed playing
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  Speaker 7: with him, it seems like. So I think it might
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  Speaker 7: not be what folks on the outside are necessarily expecting.
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  Speaker 7: But how he handles any kind of adversity, I think,
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  Speaker 7: especially on the road, is going to be a huge
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  Speaker 7: storyline for however long he's the starter.
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  Speaker 6: Well, Jags fans are unfortunately very familiar with Deshaun Watson.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's 7-0, something like that, other than a
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  Speaker 6: late rookie season playing some later in the game. But
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  Speaker 6: he's pretty much undefeated against the Jaguars. What does the
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  Speaker 6: offense look like now with Todd Monk in there? And obviously,
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  Speaker 6: I know Quinshawn Judkins coming back from injury. So what
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  Speaker 6: are you expecting to see in week one?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the big thing for folks to know
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  Speaker 7: is this Browns receiving core has just been revamped. They
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  Speaker 7: used two of their top three draft picks to take
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  Speaker 7: Casey Concepcion. out of Texas A & M, and Denzel
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  Speaker 7: Boston out of Washington. So those are two different profile receivers.
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  Speaker 7: Casey Concepcion, I know the Browns really valued his ability
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  Speaker 7: as a separator. He can do a lot. He can
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  Speaker 7: get involved in the run game. He makes the offense
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  Speaker 7: a lot more versatile. I know the Browns believed he
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  Speaker 7: was the best punt returner. in their draft class. So
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  Speaker 7: I would definitely be on the lookout when you're watching
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  Speaker 7: the Jacksonville defense for him and what they're going to
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  Speaker 7: do going against him. And Denzel Boston is more of
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  Speaker 7: that red zone threat, a more traditional style X receiver,
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  Speaker 7: a bigger body. So That's definitely, I think, the biggest
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  Speaker 7: thing to know on top of Quinshawn Judkins coming back.
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  Speaker 7: He was in some of that Offensive Rookie of the
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  Speaker 7: Year talk before he dislocated his ankle last season with
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  Speaker 7: a couple of weeks to go.
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  Speaker 3: So he's back.
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  Speaker 7: He looks like he hasn't missed a step. And the
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  Speaker 7: other big thing to know about this Browns offense under
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  Speaker 7: Todd Munkin now is that they totally remade their offensive line.
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  Speaker 7: Five new starters, so... It's going to be very different
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  Speaker 7: than the last time Jacksonville saw them a couple years
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  Speaker 7: ago they had that veteran group together for like four
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  Speaker 7: or five seasons so they have a rookie left tackle
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  Speaker 7: and Spencer Fano that's I think the big name to
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  Speaker 7: know but five new starters definitely a tall order for
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  Speaker 7: these guys as they get organized in week one.
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  Speaker 6: Tons of changes, obviously defensively, Miles Garrett heads out of town.
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  Speaker 6: Jared verse, uh, no slub by any means. He's very talented.
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  Speaker 6: Will the defense be the Cleveland Browns defense? We feel
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  Speaker 6: like we already have known for years or what is
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  Speaker 6: it going to look like now?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's interesting because I think the answer is yes
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  Speaker 7: and no, because it's undeniable looks different without Miles Garrett. But, uh,
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  Speaker 7: when Mike Rutenberg, their new defensive coordinator, first time defensive
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  Speaker 7: coordinator took over, uh, A big part of the reason
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  Speaker 7: of why he took over is he comes from kind
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  Speaker 7: of the same coaching tree that former coordinator Jim Schwartz
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  Speaker 7: came from. So it still is going to be that
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  Speaker 7: attack style front, which I think is what people have
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  Speaker 7: grown used to seeing with the Browns D-line over the
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  Speaker 7: prior three seasons when they led the league in a
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  Speaker 7: number of statistical categories. I know tackles for loss, third
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  Speaker 7: down conversions allowed, total first downs allowed, fourth down conversions.
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  Speaker 7: So They've been really good with that attack-styled front. I
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  Speaker 7: think changes are really going to come in the secondary.
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  Speaker 7: I'd expect a lot more three safety looks. They drafted
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  Speaker 7: Emmanuel McNeil-Warren. out of Toledo on the second day of
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  Speaker 7: the draft. So I expect him to be very heavily involved.
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  Speaker 7: But Mike Ruttenberg, his bread and butter is really in
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  Speaker 7: that secondary. So I think that might be where you
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  Speaker 7: see a little bit more disguising, less man coverage, as
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  Speaker 7: opposed to the front, which I think is still very
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  Speaker 7: much attack first along that D-line.
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  Speaker 6: It's so hard to predict week one because, you know,
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  Speaker 6: coming off the season, you get the crazy games in
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  Speaker 6: week one. But is there a player to watch for
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  Speaker 6: you guys, maybe an X factor that you feel like
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  Speaker 6: if the Browns are going to be competitive and try
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  Speaker 6: to win this game, you're going to have to have
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  Speaker 6: a good performance out of?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what? I'm going to go ahead and
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  Speaker 7: I will say Quinshawn Judkins for that. Because I think
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  Speaker 7: in a Todd Munkin offense, to go back to that point,
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  Speaker 7: the run game is so, so, so important. And I
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  Speaker 7: think the Browns over the last few years have really struggled.
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  Speaker 7: to marry the run in the pass. And when you
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  Speaker 7: don't have production in one facets of that, it becomes
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  Speaker 7: much easier for opposing defenses to game plan for you.
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  Speaker 7: And I think Quinshawn Judkins really being back to his
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  Speaker 7: true form that he was at pre-injury as a rookie,
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  Speaker 7: it's going to help a lot. And as the quarterback
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  Speaker 7: situation sort of remains what it is here in Cleveland,
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  Speaker 7: I think any help on the ground is going to
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  Speaker 7: be greatly appreciated.
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  Speaker 6: Awesome.
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  Speaker 7: We're looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 6: Ashley, we'll see you this week.
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  Speaker 7: All right, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: segment called If. The Jaguars will win If. And it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a football-intensive segment. Mark couldn't be with
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  Speaker 1: us today, but he gave us what his ifs are.
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  Speaker 1: And John, I'll have you feed off of them. The
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  Speaker 1: first is the Jaguars will beat the Browns if they
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  Speaker 1: win on first down. First down has been a huge
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  Speaker 1: talking point. Yeah, it's everything.
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  Speaker 2: I would say the entire offseason has been focused on it,
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  Speaker 2: but a lot of it has. And Chris Rodriguez has
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  Speaker 2: brought in here to have them in better situations on
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  Speaker 2: first down on offense, meaning Instead of second and eight runs,
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  Speaker 2: you want second and six runs. Puts you in better
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  Speaker 2: situations down the road on second and third down.
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  Speaker 1: And on defense, same deal.
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  Speaker 2: If you hear Josh Ions-Allen talk about defense ever, it's
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  Speaker 2: always we've got to earn the right to rush the
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  Speaker 2: passer by stopping the run.
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  Speaker 1: Went on first down, you win the game.
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  Speaker 3: Our second Jaguars will win if.
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  Speaker 1: Is the Jaguars a win? Because it's all about the QB.
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  Speaker 1: You have to affect the quarterback, which means you've got
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  Speaker 1: to go get Deshaun Watson, and your quarterback has to
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  Speaker 1: be protected.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel– don't you feel good about Trevor Lawrence? Look,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know the– this year's offense line is perfect.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't perfect last year. There were some games where.
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  Speaker 1: It gave up pressure.
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  Speaker 2: But he's gotten really good at evading it. So you
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  Speaker 2: feel like they're going to be able to function offensively–
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  Speaker 2: against the Browns. Now, the Browns don't want that. The
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  Speaker 2: Browns are a very good defensive front, so that's a
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  Speaker 2: huge matchup. I feel like the Jaguars will be good
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  Speaker 2: enough there to function offensively. Pass rush for the Jaguars
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  Speaker 2: is a legitimate question in terms of it was good
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  Speaker 2: at times last year, good on the edge, got to
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  Speaker 2: be better on the interior.
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  Speaker 1: How much have they improved there?
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  Speaker 2: It is a big storyline, and I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: say that those two are huge Jaguars matchups or Jaguars edges.
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  Speaker 2: To me, they're huge storylines on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, an extension of that is the stickier coverage that
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  Speaker 1: Tony Buscelli was talking about back in the summer. Just
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  Speaker 1: a little bit better coverage allows more time for Josh Heinz-Allen,
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  Speaker 1: who had 80 pass rushes or pass rush pressures last year,
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  Speaker 1: which was tied for fourth in the NFL with Myles Garrett,
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  Speaker 1: to get to the top of that pass rush and.
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  Speaker 2: Get to the quarterback. Yeah, Josh and Trayvon would be
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  Speaker 2: really helped there by defensive interior pressure is huge for ends.
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  Speaker 3: And finally.
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  Speaker 1: The Jaguars will win if, on Sunday, if they can
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  Speaker 1: do it again in terms of a turnover, a takeaway position. Now,
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  Speaker 1: plus 31 takeaways last year.
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  Speaker 3: They were plus 13 in.
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  Speaker 1: The takeaway-giveaway ratio. That's not likely to happen. That was
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  Speaker 1: only the fourth time in franchise history that the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: accumulated more than 30 takeaways. But they've got to at
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  Speaker 1: least be able to grab one or two a game.
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  Speaker 1: That's always got to go in your favor if you
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  Speaker 1: want to be that kind of contending team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get a lot of questions about, well, The
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  Speaker 2: turnovers are fall off because they always do. And 31
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  Speaker 2: is a big number to get. But if you think
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  Speaker 2: about last year, their success to me was not built
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  Speaker 2: on all takeaways. They had, was it three every game
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  Speaker 2: for the first four games?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a huge number.
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  Speaker 1: 14, I think, in the first four.
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  Speaker 2: And they were good later that year, but it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: like they were this historically weird number good the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the year, especially during their 10-game winning streak or
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  Speaker 2: the eight-game winning streak. When they were really good at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the year, They were getting turnovers, but
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't crazy and saying, oh, we can never do
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  Speaker 2: that again. So I think they'll be fine there. But sure,
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  Speaker 2: it's key Sunday because you want to get a lead
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  Speaker 2: and create turnovers. Anytime you do that, you're going to win.
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  Speaker 1: All right, here are the ifs once again. Jags win
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  Speaker 1: if they win on first down. Jags win if they
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  Speaker 1: affect the quarterback. And Jags win if they create takeaways.
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  Speaker 1: at least to some degree, like they did last year.
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  Speaker 1: Mark Duffner will have those for us every Thursday here
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  Speaker 1: on Jags AM. Stay with us. When we come back, we'll.
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  Speaker 3: Have our Monday.
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  Speaker 1: Headlines today, give you a preview of what we think
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  Speaker 1: is going to happen on Sunday. That right after the break.
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  Speaker 1: slash Jacksonville. So here we go. Predictions for Sunday's game
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  Speaker 1: via Monday headlines in our own little paper. John, what
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  Speaker 1: you got?
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  Speaker 2: I went with Off and running. And I think it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be the theme. I think you're going to
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  Speaker 2: feel like this team has gotten off to a good start. Again,
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  Speaker 2: I think the first half are always weird in week one.
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  Speaker 2: So this is, I consider the Jags a good team
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  Speaker 2: going against a building team this week. Often during that
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  Speaker 2: week one weirdness, you get a weird play in the
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  Speaker 2: first half. You might get a turnover that you're not
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  Speaker 2: expecting because they're throwing something at you that you didn't expect.
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  Speaker 2: But I think they will run. I think by the
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  Speaker 2: third quarter they will establish the run. And I think
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  Speaker 2: you will feel like you'll have a sensation by the
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  Speaker 2: end of the game that, oh, this team can run.
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  Speaker 2: This team knows what it's doing. It had a little
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  Speaker 2: dicey in the first half, but they took care of
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  Speaker 2: it in the second half. 26-14-ish, sort of like last
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  Speaker 2: year's Carolina game. I don't think they'll have the lead
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  Speaker 2: they had against Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: I think it will be more of.
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  Speaker 2: A second half where the Jaguars sort of– establish what
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  Speaker 2: they are, and figure out what the Browns are doing weird,
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  Speaker 2: figure that out, and get the margin they want.
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  Speaker 3: I went with win one versus Watson.
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  Speaker 1: The Jaguars have never beaten Watson when he has started
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  Speaker 1: a game against the Jaguars with the Texans or the
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  Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, but you see what he's got to deal with.
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  Speaker 1: There are five new starters on the offensive line. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: the right guard was the starter at the end of
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  Speaker 1: last season, but five new starters from opening day last year.
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  Speaker 1: He's got two rookie-wide receivers and a defense that's trying
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  Speaker 1: to figure itself out without Miles Garrett there just to
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  Speaker 1: wreck everything. Plus... This isn't those Jaguars teams that he
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  Speaker 1: used to face. It's much better, much, much better. So
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  Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars win it. I think it's a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more comfortable. I see 28-14. I think the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars establish the run game. I think they get a
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  Speaker 1: couple of takeaways early in this one. And I think
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars beat the Browns and go 1-0 on opening day.
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  Speaker 1: So I picked 26-14.
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  Speaker 3: You picked 28-14.
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  Speaker 1: And yours is much more comfortable. Yeah, okay. I said
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more comfortable. No, but you're right. A
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  Speaker 1: feel and flow of game. I think we differ a
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  Speaker 1: little bit there. John, thanks so much. Appreciate you. We'll
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  Speaker 1: see you next Monday to preview, well, to review the
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  Speaker 1: Browns game and then preview the Broncos game. We're getting started,
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  Speaker 1: getting into the regular season routine, and we thank you
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  Speaker 1: for joining us here on Jags AM. Have a great
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  Speaker 1: day and enjoy the weekend, everyone. We'll see you Sunday.