Latest / Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning / WOR weeknight host Jimmy Failla interview
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well, we've been joined by Jimmy Fallon. You go to
- 0:04Speaker 1: sleep with him at 9, 9 to 12, 7, 10 W.O.R.
- 0:07Speaker 1: The number one talk station in the nation. And you
- 0:10Speaker 1: wake up with Larry and Curtis in the morning.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Well, first off, we have to give salutations and greetings
- 0:17Speaker 1: to you and your other family at the Fox News channel,
- 0:22Speaker 1: because apparently it's their 30th birthday.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Think about that. Fox News is 30. 50 years from now,
- 0:30Speaker 2: we'll be old enough to run for Congress. You look
- 0:36Speaker 2: at the milestones, you know, where does the time go?
- 0:40Speaker 2: So were you even birthed with the birth of Fox News?
- 0:44Speaker 2: I was. I was in, nobody likes a show off,
- 0:47Speaker 2: but you know this. I was going to Nassau Community College.
- 0:50Speaker 2: I was a freshman in college and I was getting
- 0:52Speaker 2: ready to watch the Yankees win the World Series. So
- 0:54Speaker 2: there's a lot of parallels between then and now, except
- 0:56Speaker 2: this whole Yankees winning the World Series thing. Aside from that,
- 1:01Speaker 2: a lot of it feels the same. Are there any
- 1:03Speaker 2: plans what's going to happen at Fox for the 30th? Well,
- 1:05Speaker 2: tomorrow is a massive building-wide party. So they're having a
- 1:10Speaker 2: town hall where they will address the entire company will
- 1:14Speaker 2: be there. And they'll kind of walk us through the years.
- 1:17Speaker 2: We added this. We did that. This show came. All
- 1:20Speaker 2: that jazz. And they feed you all day. So the
- 1:24Speaker 2: one thing about Fox that I wish everybody could spend
- 1:26Speaker 2: five minutes experiencing this just once in their life, in
- 1:29Speaker 2: that way, it really is like a big Italian family.
- 1:32Speaker 2: Like they always feed you. They're like, it's election night.
- 1:34Speaker 2: Catering's on the second floor. Snacks are on the fifth floor.
- 1:36Speaker 2: They're always feeding you. And because of that social component,
- 1:41Speaker 2: it feels like a well-dressed high school. I always explain
- 1:43Speaker 2: this to my friends. Okay, everybody thinks we're just there,
- 1:47Speaker 2: you know, throwing darts at Obama posters, you know, but
- 1:50Speaker 2: you're actually, it's like a high school high school. You know,
- 1:53Speaker 2: in high school, you run into your best friends in
- 1:55Speaker 2: the hall for two minutes. The bell rings. You run
- 1:56Speaker 2: the class. That's Fox. But instead of running the class,
- 1:59Speaker 2: you run to a TV studio and then you throw
- 2:01Speaker 2: the darts at Obama right at him. You know, whatever. No,
- 2:03Speaker 2: but the point is, it has a very communal vibe
- 2:06Speaker 2: and it spills onto the air. And that's why people
- 2:08Speaker 2: watch it all day, because they feel like they're with
- 2:10Speaker 2: their family. And they are whenever somebody meets me and like,
- 2:13Speaker 2: I feel like I know you. I'm like, well, you do.
- 2:15Speaker 2: You know, you can't you wouldn't script this level of ridiculousness.
- 2:19Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? And for that reason, the
- 2:21Speaker 2: vibe around the building is actually really good right now.
- 2:23Speaker 2: And people are excited for tomorrow. Do they share the
- 2:25Speaker 2: ratings with you?
- 2:26Speaker 3: Yes. Do you see time spent watching? Because you're right.
- 2:30Speaker 3: People sit down to watch Fox and they watch it
- 2:32Speaker 3: for hours.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Days, weeks.
- 2:34Speaker 3: Is it really?
- 2:36Speaker 2: You want to know my favorite? It's my favorite Fox thing. Okay.
- 2:38Speaker 2: People will come up to me and they'll go, yo, man,
- 2:41Speaker 2: when do you sleep? I saw you on Fox and
- 2:43Speaker 2: Friends first five in the morning. Then I saw you
- 2:45Speaker 2: on Hannity at 10 at night. And I'm like, yo, man,
- 2:48Speaker 2: when do you sleep? Out of curiosity. Exactly. I'm like,
- 2:53Speaker 2: this is my job. I come and go. I bounce
- 2:56Speaker 2: back on and off the air. Now, let me explain
- 2:59Speaker 2: to you. You haven't quite figured it out.
- 3:01Speaker 1: Why to make sure that they have so much food
- 3:03Speaker 1: and so many snacks at the ready? Because they don't
- 3:07Speaker 1: want these guys sneaking out to the gin mill across
- 3:09Speaker 1: the street, knocking back a few and coming back.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Half in a bag. Well, that's not working.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:16Speaker 2: Maybe they're trying to sober us up.
- 3:17Speaker 3: That is a corporate way of getting people to stay
- 3:19Speaker 3: in the building and to stay at work. You go
- 3:21Speaker 3: out to Palo Alto, you can get food all day.
- 3:25Speaker 3: They have places to sleep. You can get your laundry done.
- 3:28Speaker 1: It's amazing.
- 3:29Speaker 2: A massage, too. Yeah, a massage. They haven't provided that,
- 3:32Speaker 2: have they? A little Chinese massage. Whoa, curse. Good morning.
- 3:38Speaker 2: Free flu shots, maybe. Good morning. Oh, you kids today.
- 3:42Speaker 1: Now, let me give you a little side story because
- 3:44Speaker 1: I am somewhat responsible for Fox News.
- 3:47Speaker 2: I love this.
- 3:48Speaker 1: So I get fired at the old WABC with Lisa
- 3:51Speaker 1: Angels in the morning.
- 3:52Speaker 2: She goes her way.
- 3:53Speaker 1: I go mine. Rudy calls me up. He's just been
- 3:56Speaker 1: elected mayor of the city of New York. I want
- 3:58Speaker 1: you to come over to WNYC, the public radio station. Curtis,
- 4:02Speaker 1: we own a radio station and a TV station. We
- 4:05Speaker 1: own the sticks. I want to be able to sell
- 4:08Speaker 1: it and showcase it. Bringing you over, I may get
- 4:10Speaker 1: people to be able to listen that are interested in buying.
- 4:14Speaker 1: So I did seven months. It was pure hell.
- 4:16Speaker 2: They hated me there.
- 4:18Speaker 1: The one benefit is they ended up selling the TV stick.
- 4:23Speaker 1: WNYC TV to who? Roger Ailes, who negotiated it for
- 4:28Speaker 1: Rupert Murdoch. And that's the stick that became the Fox
- 4:31Speaker 1: News channel.
- 4:32Speaker 2: It's because of me.
- 4:34Speaker 1: Wow.
- 4:35Speaker 3: He finds a way to take credit for everything.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Well, literally.
- 4:38Speaker 2: It's pretty amazing. But you are the Wally Pip of television.
- 4:43Speaker 2: You know, the Yankees had a first baseman. He took
- 4:45Speaker 2: a night off. And then Lou Gehrig played for 30
- 4:47Speaker 2: straight years. Curtis, Wally, Pips, Lewa.
- 4:51Speaker 3: Is there anyone at Fox News that has been there
- 4:53Speaker 3: for the entire 30 years?
- 4:55Speaker 2: Steve Doocy. Lauren Green is there. Hannity. They're all 30.
- 5:00Speaker 3: Well, Lauren Green. I used to work with Lauren Green.
- 5:02Speaker 2: And I do believe more, but off the top of
- 5:05Speaker 2: my head, those are the first three that come to
- 5:06Speaker 2: mind because I saw Steve and Lauren in the lobby.
- 5:09Speaker 2: And Hannity because I sell counterfeit. Hannity autographed footballs to
- 5:13Speaker 2: my friends around the holidays. The rent don't pay itself, guys.
- 5:18Speaker 2: What are we doing here?
- 5:19Speaker 3: How does that go? Listen, you know, if you can't
- 5:23Speaker 3: answer this question, please don't answer it. But what is
- 5:27Speaker 3: the relationship now between Fox News and Donald Trump? It
- 5:30Speaker 3: sounds like he's a little upset with you.
- 5:33Speaker 2: I wish. This is what I wish. I wish everybody
- 5:37Speaker 2: in the media ecosystem would acknowledge these moments. Because they
- 5:41Speaker 2: always say, Fox is just running a human shield for Trump.
- 5:44Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, we wake up to one of these
- 5:46Speaker 2: anti-Fox tweet barrages like two, three times a year. Somebody
- 5:51Speaker 2: gets up to pee in the middle of the night,
- 5:52Speaker 2: he's in a bad mood, and he's like, screw Tarloff,
- 5:55Speaker 2: cover the rally. What are you guys doing? And I
- 5:59Speaker 2: wish people would see this and understand that that is
- 6:02Speaker 2: the truth. We are calling balls and strikes, and there's
- 6:05Speaker 2: this misconception that our party is the Republican Party. I mean,
- 6:08Speaker 2: the truth is our party is America. And that's where
- 6:11Speaker 2: so many people relate to us is the things we
- 6:13Speaker 2: prioritize are human. They're not political. They're human. Crime and
- 6:17Speaker 2: safety is very human. The border is human. You know, affordability,
- 6:20Speaker 2: stuff like that. Human. Defund the police.
- 6:22Speaker 1: Human.
- 6:23Speaker 2: So what happens is at times, if we're not in
- 6:26Speaker 2: sync with what he might decide would be, you know,
- 6:29Speaker 2: his preferred way of us tackling a particular news cycle.
- 6:32Speaker 2: he lets us hear about it. But if you notice,
- 6:34Speaker 2: I think what, what he was screaming about was like,
- 6:35Speaker 2: we weren't covering his rallies or something like that. We
- 6:38Speaker 2: didn't break into nonstop rally coverage after that. And here's
- 6:42Speaker 2: the thing you need to understand. And this is the,
- 6:44Speaker 2: maybe the distinction for him. Okay. Of course we covered
- 6:48Speaker 2: his rallies when he was the candidate. You know what
- 6:50Speaker 2: I mean? In the general election, you cover the Republican,
- 6:53Speaker 2: you cover the Democrat, you're on the campaign trail nonstop.
- 6:56Speaker 2: Same with the primary season in the general election. Okay.
- 6:59Speaker 2: Now you're stumping for a congressional seat somewhere. And you're
- 7:02Speaker 2: doing 16 rallies a day. That's great. These seats matter.
- 7:06Speaker 2: But we're not rally TV. You know what I'm saying?
- 7:08Speaker 3: And we should clarify what you're saying. When you say cover,
- 7:10Speaker 3: you cover them.
- 7:11Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. It's just you don't take them live. Yeah,
- 7:13Speaker 2: you don't take them live for two hours. Or three
- 7:17Speaker 2: or four or more. And I'm sure there are times
- 7:20Speaker 2: where they will because there's news being made. You know
- 7:22Speaker 2: what I'm saying? But if it's just him calling CNN
- 7:25Speaker 2: fake news and doing the YMCA, I mean, we don't
- 7:27Speaker 2: necessarily need the full two hours. You know what I mean?
- 7:30Speaker 2: It's like the end of an NBA game. You know,
- 7:31Speaker 2: it doesn't get good until they start fouling each other.
- 7:33Speaker 2: So when we see the village people walk up, we're like,
- 7:35Speaker 2: all right, we should break into coverage now. It's funny.
- 7:37Speaker 3: You've had an off and on. Fox News has had
- 7:39Speaker 3: an off and on relationship with Trump because he does
- 7:42Speaker 3: get upset with you every once in a while. Because
- 7:44Speaker 3: you started this, though, I will say that.
- 7:46Speaker 2: Give it to me.
- 7:47Speaker 3: Because you used to have him on for hours. You'd
- 7:50Speaker 3: do interviews, and I'd keep going back, and I'm thinking,
- 7:53Speaker 3: my God, is he still on? Remember that when he
- 7:55Speaker 3: first ran?
- 7:56Speaker 2: When he, in 2016, it was really funny because it was,
- 7:59Speaker 2: I remember watching this through the lens of Morning Joe.
- 8:02Speaker 2: It was like he'd be doing a Fox, he'd be
- 8:04Speaker 2: calling the Fox and friends and just air it out.
- 8:06Speaker 2: And it was good entertainment, too. You know what I mean?
- 8:07Speaker 2: Because it's getting personal. Here's a guy's phone number. Call
- 8:11Speaker 2: him up if you don't like him. It was good.
- 8:14Speaker 2: And then on the other side, it was funny because
- 8:15Speaker 2: he was doing like the same thing on Morning Joe.
- 8:17Speaker 2: They were having him on constantly. And then I saw
- 8:20Speaker 2: that strategic pivot, you know, because I didn't work at
- 8:23Speaker 2: Fox when this happened. I came on in 2017. But
- 8:26Speaker 2: I saw the immediate pivot after the election where Trump
- 8:29Speaker 2: had spent a summer on MSNBC. And the minute he won,
- 8:32Speaker 2: they were like, Hitler! Hitler's in the Oval Office! I'm like, well,
- 8:35Speaker 2: can you give Hitler his royalty check? Because Hitler had
- 8:39Speaker 2: a show on your network for 15 years.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Now, on that note, the last time we spoke to
- 8:45Speaker 1: you about some of the internal intrigue within the Fox
- 8:49Speaker 1: News Channel family.
- 8:50Speaker 2: Happy birthday. Happy 30th birthday. Maria Bartiromo. What's she doing now?
- 8:57Speaker 2: I know nothing. What do you mean you know nothing?
- 8:59Speaker 3: She's down on her luck.
- 9:01Speaker 2: She's going to be fine. Wouldn't you love to be
- 9:03Speaker 2: that down on your luck? I mean, come on, man.
- 9:06Speaker 1: Remember, we thought, oh, my God, she's going to become
- 9:08Speaker 1: the next press spokesperson for the Trump administration. And we
- 9:12Speaker 1: see now that somebody's gotten a new job at the
- 9:15Speaker 1: Fox News Channel.
- 9:17Speaker 2: I love that. I happen to love Caroline Leavitt. You
- 9:19Speaker 2: know what the funniest thing about her announcing this new job?
- 9:22Speaker 2: She obviously left the White House press gig to say
- 9:24Speaker 2: she has another newborn kid. She wants to spend more
- 9:26Speaker 2: time with her kid. So, so many people, you know,
- 9:28Speaker 2: there's people that just read the news cycle for an angle,
- 9:31Speaker 2: an angle to be mad about. Let me show you
- 9:33Speaker 2: why you're, you know, you're an idiot, you know? You're right.
- 9:36Speaker 2: She said she was leaving because, you know, she wanted
- 9:38Speaker 2: to spend some more time with the kids. Now she's
- 9:40Speaker 2: going to work at Fox. Like, listen, I don't want
- 9:42Speaker 2: to let you stand completely behind the magician, but being
- 9:45Speaker 2: a Fox contributor who does TV for eight minutes a night,
- 9:48Speaker 2: is a little bit less demanding than running the White
- 9:50Speaker 2: House press shop. You know what I mean? Did you
- 9:52Speaker 2: hear her hours?
- 9:53Speaker 3: She complained about it afterwards. She was on the phone
- 9:57Speaker 3: at like 2 in the morning.
- 9:59Speaker 2: And this isn't a normal White House. This is a
- 10:01Speaker 2: guy who's firing off a statement at 3.13 in the
- 10:05Speaker 2: morning because he's watching the replay of the Jets game,
- 10:08Speaker 2: thinks it's live. They missed the field goal. Fire the coach.
- 10:12Speaker 2: Now she's got to get out of bed. The baby's crying.
- 10:15Speaker 3: Good for her. She said the biggest mistake I made
- 10:18Speaker 3: was giving my personal cell phone number to the reporters.
- 10:21Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 10:22Speaker 3: They call all night long.
- 10:23Speaker 2: All night long. Like a Lionel Richie song. All night long.
- 10:29Speaker 2: And there's no time at all for dancing on the
- 10:31Speaker 2: ceiling with that job.
- 10:32Speaker 1: No.