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Armed Citizen Stopped the Oregon School Shooter · Live to Shoot - Defending our 2nd Amendment Rights

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  Welcome to the Live Shoot podcast.
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  My name is Jeff Dowdle, and I've been a licensed firearm dealer for the last 19 years.
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  In this podcast, we talk about all things Second Amendment, anything else going on in the world, sports story, or anything else I find interesting.
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  Today we're gonna talk something, about something heavy, and it's hard, and I typically do not talk about these when they happen because the stories and the facts can be clouded, they can change, and two weeks down the line, you finally start to get a little clarity about what happened.
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  But but I do wanna talk about this particular incident.
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  So if you haven't heard or seen the news yesterday there was a shooting at an elementary school in Oregon.
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  Four people were killed, a- as of right now, and the reports are still coming in.
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  Again, by the time I get this out, there may be different information, so I apologize, I'm trying to give this as factual as I can.
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  But things are still being confirmed, and but here's what we know.
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  A shooter entered the school, opened fire, and four lives were taken.
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  Children, staff, the kind of people who should never have to worry about something like this when they walk into the doors at school in the morning, and it's a horrible situation.
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  As a parent, as a grandparent, I can't imagine.
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  And my heart goes out to those families, to the communities.
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  There's no words.
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  It's evil.
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  There's evil in this world, and we have to deal with it.
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  So if you're a praying person, please pray for them.
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  Lift them up.
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  They're all gonna need it.
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  But now here's this...
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  But the thing, the reason I want to talk about this is because this story, th- one piece of it that's not gonna get a lot of coverage by the mainstream media because it doesn't fit their narrative, but the shooter was stopped by an armed citizen.
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  Let me say it again.
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  The shooter was not taken down by SWAT or police.
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  He was taken down by an armed citizen, and based on the reports that I saw, the, he was the s- shooter was a, was nearby, c- has a li- is a license to carry concealed handgun holder.
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  Followed the s- the shooter into the school, and then this is where right now I don't see the reports about exactly what happened in the shoot- sh- school, but the police arrived three minutes later, and at that point in time, the shooter was taken down So what's that mean?
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  It means that the death toll, as horrific as four lives, could have been much worse.
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  And the reason it wasn't, it's because a good person with extreme bravery, with a firearm, made a decision to act.
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  Now, I know it's coming, and you do too.
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  Every time this happens, the same voices come out of the woodwork.
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  Before the victims and families have even been no- notified, they start calling for gun control.
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  And I've already seen the news, gun control more restrictions, more laws on top of law-abiding citizens, and they will completely ignore, completely gloss over the fact that it was an armed citizen that stopped this.
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  So think about it.
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  They wanna take away the very thing that prevented this from being worse.
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  And from the reports that I have seen he got this gun in w- and we have no idea about the age.
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  I don't even know if I've seen male, female, nothing like that at all.
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  But this person got the gun from a grandparent from what I understand.
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  So very little gun control, unless you've-- unless we completely ban guns, which is where they wanna go, could have prevented this.
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  And again, w-- I don't wanna politicize a tragedy.
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  That's not what I'm here.
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  I'm here to make sure that the story gets out bef- and before we even know the shooter's name, before we know the motive, before we have any real facts, there are already gonna be press conferences being planned and legislation being drafted.
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  So they're gonna have that conversation, and we need to be a part of it.
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  We need to bring the truth.
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  And the truth is, gun-free zones don't work.
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  Schools are soft targets, and the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.
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  We saw that play out in real time Oregon.
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  Based on a, a little bit of the facts that I know, we do know one thing.
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  The shooter violated the gun-free zone by going in with a gun, okay?
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  The hero could have possibly been violating a gun-free zone,'cause we-- I don't know how close they were to the school as they were carrying they were legally carrying their license to carry, which is still, is a, a forbidden place is schools in most places.
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  But they did violate the s- gun-free zone too when they went in and saved lives because gun-free zones don't work.
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  They don't work.
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  But if you're a parent, if you're a grandparent, you need to be asking your school district some hard questions.
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  What's their security plan?
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  Are there armed resource officers?
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  Is there a policy that allows trained armed staff to carry?
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  Because thoughts and prayers are important, I believe that deeply, but they are not a security plan.
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  And if school-- your school district doesn't have that plan, and they put up signs that says,"Gun-free zone," and that's what their plan is, then you should be angry, because that sign does nothing to stop someone who has already decided to commit murder.
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  And again, the facts are changing, but the doors were locked on this place, but he used the weapon and fired through the door and took out the locks to get in.
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  So even locking doors isn't gonna stop y- stop somebody that is committed.
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  And again, we don't know motive or anything like that, so we have to have additional lines of defense once you get into the school that can stop this from happening.
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  We praise God that there was a citizen that was armed and willing to take a risk to go and save additional people.
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  That is a, a true blessing from that.
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  I just wanna get this out there.
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  Details are going to come out.
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  Some of my narrative may change.
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  I for-- I ask for forgiveness if I got s- anything wrong.
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  But this tragedy is a reminder of two things.
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  First, evil exists.
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  There are people in this world who will do unspeakable things, and no law on the books is going to stop them.
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  You cannot legislate evil out of the human heart.
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  And second, the Second Amendment exists for exactly moments like this.
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  The right to keep and bear arms is not about hunting.
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  It's not about sh- sport shooting.
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  As much as, as we can love those things, it's about the fundamental right to protect yourself and the people around when when bad things happen.
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  So the armed citizen in Oregon understood that, and because of that, there are children and teachers who went home to their families that day who might not otherwise have.
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  So when the calls for gun control start, and they will, I want you to remember that.
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  Remember that it wasn't a new law that saved lives today.
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  It was a person with a firearm and the courage to use it.
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  At the end of the day, this is what the Second Amendment is about, not just a, a right on paper, but a right in practice, a right to save lives.
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  So again, we need to pray for those families.
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  But, sh- get this information out, share it with people, do whatever you need to do.
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  I'm Jeff.
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  This is Live to Shoot podcast.
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  Stay vigilant, stay armed, and hold your loved ones close today.
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  Talk to you next week.