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Wow. What an opener.
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What an opener. Can't wait till the closer.
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Good evening everybody. Welcome to Real Deal Media's
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incredible original series The Lounge, as tonight's season
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finale is Zionist verse of the West.
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As you can see there. Such a hot show.
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My glasses are getting steamy because that's the kind of
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content we have for you here tonight.
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I'm telling you, it's that big. That big.
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Yes, Zionists burst the West, as you can plainly see there.
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Make no mistake. Everything from Albert Pike to
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the Netanyahu's to the Schofield Bible, to the Trump rubber hands
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to the 1800 Zionists, to even the different maps within the
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Schofield Bible, everything will be covered and no stone will be
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left overturned. You see how that is tonight?
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It's is just that for the season finale, we have assembled some
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of the greatest, sharpest, wittiest historically sound
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minds that our real deal media could ever find.
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Yes, we have. And one of those minds joining
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me tonight is filmmaker and music critique here of the RDM
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musical critics, one of the RDM music guys himself, the one, the
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only Matthew Millen, Matt, welcome, welcome.
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Great. To see you, man.
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Good to see you. Oh, we are just rolling here
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with the not with the Zionist just yet.
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And also joining me and joining us, I should say, is a man who
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is very, very well versed on the Schofield Bible, a man who has
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really lived up to Noah's ark and really has done his best to
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repopulate the world at least every Saturday morning.
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That's the one, the only Neil Bishop.
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Neil, good to see you. Dean, you're you're alive,
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brother. I am alive.
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We are alive together. OK, so guys, thank you for being
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here Tonight is we are broadcasting live over there on
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the real Dean Ryan on Facebook as well as Dean Ryan TV and
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Rumble. Yes, we are.
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But after tonight, guys, I may be just blown off the interwebs
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all together. It's going to be a controversial
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show. I'm excited, I'm excited, I'm
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pumped, man. Good.
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And towards the end of tonight, we're going to be looking at the
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live chats and we'll be asking inquiries as we get there.
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And before we get started here, I should ask both of you and
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maybe I'll start with Matt is Zionist versus the West.
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Well, Matt, when did you kind of start noticing the Zionist
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factor, if you will, and and felt compelled to maybe speak
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out about that just for starters here?
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I think it was when I probably in the late 90s when I in the
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early days of the Internet, I came across a population census,
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I think it was an Ottoman Empire one in 1900 of Palestine.
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And I paints a very different feature picture than a land
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without a people for people without a land, considering it
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was, you know, over 90% Arab at the time.
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So, and that was so the whole like premise of the land without
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a people for a people without a land, I started getting very
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suspicious of and. Interesting.
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Transformative moment, but I mean, I had skepticism before
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that though as well, to be honest though that was.
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Very, very good point. And Neil, like, you know, like
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Matt and myself and many others, these are things that I did not
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learn about in high school that we were not told any of this
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about during the World War 2 chapters of the history class.
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So I can't say, unlike the new generation today, these are
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things that I've learned as an adult, much later in life.
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How about yourself? When did you kind of start
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noticing things? If we can just begin there.
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Yeah, I mean, I, I grew up in kind of a subcategory of of what
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we call Zionism now, but I didn't really know what Zionism
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was. Even as an adult.
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I I didn't understand it. But I've always been skeptical
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of things and started waking up sometime around Sandy Hook stuff
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really started waking up to like, what kind of weird matrix
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are we living in? And then by the time the COVID
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hit and that came upon us, I was fully awake to like just that
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we're, we're, we're not living in, in reality, we're being
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taught falsehoods everywhere and anything that's mainstream must
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be questioned. So that's when I started kind of
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like questioning this narrative because I know we're, we're
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very, we've been heavily involved in politics and we
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started realizing first hand how controlled our own politicians
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are by a certain Middle Eastern country.
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So I started reading books, books by Benjamin Friedman and
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others and started looking at another side of history that I
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wasn't aware of, didn't grow up, like you said, I didn't grow up,
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you know, really understanding both sides of history.
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You know, they say, you know, it's the, it's the, it's the
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winners, those who win the war that write the history books so
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they can write whatever they want.
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But there's more than one side to this.
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And so that's really, honestly, I've hardcore started really
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studying, you know, I've always read from the Scofield Study
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Bible anyway. I didn't even know who Scofield
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was. So just over the last few years,
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I really started because I've always been a Bible student, but
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I didn't know like who all these commentators were and these
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Bible scholars and all these people that we just naturally
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refer to. And you, you know, if you're a
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good Bible believing Christian, especially like a Baptist or
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something like that, you're going to have like a Scofield
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King James Version study Bible. And I even know who Scofield
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was. So last couple years really for
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me as far as this subject, the Israel subject, Middle East and
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Schofield, things like that. Now, when, when, when you say a
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certain country in the Middle East, are you talking about Abu
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Dhabi? Yeah.
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I still I don't know if I can. Name it.
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You're talking about Oman? Yeah, I, I, I that's the first
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thing I was thinking about. Why is she talking about Abu
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Dhabi that way? What is wrong with him?
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I I'm not referring to Qatar, we'll put it that way.
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Oh, OK. And we'll come back to Qatar at
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a later point as as you know. OK, so here's what we're going
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to do. We're going to start in, we're
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going to start and and Matt's going to give us the lead here
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in a second. But let me talk about it first
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as I opine and begin my my excursion on my own.
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Well, yes, tonight is the lounge as now Zionist versus the West
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is in full play as we're going to take you on a incredible
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credible journey here tonight. Yes, and I cannot wait.
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Well, what does it all start with?
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Well, it starts with Zionist in Europe.
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Yes it does. Europeans have been really at
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odds with the Zionists for quite some time, unbeknownst to me and
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many other people who've studied World War 2 or were spoon fed
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World War 2 I should say. But what does that entail?
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Now we know about the Bolsheviks, how they infiltrated
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Russia, World War One, a lot of confusion there.
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But even then we don't really hear a lot about World War One.
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It's all about World War 2. For some reason.
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I can't for the life of me put that together.
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So right now we're going to see a little clip here and we're
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going to bring in Matt to really slam dunk it home as the history
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of Jews and throughout Europe is 1 to be talked about.
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Fact Check this out here and then we'll get a match take on
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it is the history is really unfolding like never before and
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nothing can stop it. Of the Jewish people on the map,
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the Israeli Palestinian conflict will be explained in a following
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video. The story begins in 750 BC when
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the Near East was divided into many small kingdoms and city
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states. They were wedged between the
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Assyrian Empire to the north and Egypt in the South.
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Among them was the Kingdom of Israel, whose people worshipped
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several gods, including Yahweh. In 722 BC, the capital Samaria
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fell to the Assyrian Empire. Part of the population then fled
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to the Kingdom of Judah and Jerusalem, but they would be
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followed by the Assyrian army as they continue their expansion
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towards the South. The region then remains under
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their control for a century until the fall of Nineveh to the
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Babylonians. Egypt and Babylon would then
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compete for territories of the Old Empire, but the Babylonians
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quickly take over and project their power in the region.
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Jerusalem resists this new rule and rebels.
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The Babylonian army then returns to besiege and destroy the city.
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Much of the population is then moved to the capital.
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In 539 BC, the AL Qaiminid Persian Empire takes over
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Babylon. The new king authorizes a free
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passage for Judeans, prompting many to return to Jerusalem.
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They would then rebuild the city and organize the foundations of
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Jewish culture by building the Temple of Solomon and writing
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the Torah. In 334 BC, the ambitious young
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Macedonian king Alexander the Great set out with his army to
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conquer the known world. In just over 10 years he Rakes
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up a huge territory and builds many cities.
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But exhausted by conquest, he died at age 32 in Babylon
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without an air of governing age. The empire was then divided by
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his generals into various Hellenic kingdoms.
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Judea came under the control of the Ptolemaic dynasty.
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A Jewish community settles in the new city of Alexandria and
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the Torah is translated into Greek.
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Following a war against the Seleucid dynasty, Hellenic and
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Jewish culture developed friction to the point that one
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of the altars of the Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem was
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dedicated to the worship of Zeus.
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A traditionalist anti Hellenic Jewish militia is organised and
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takes control of Jerusalem in 164 BC.
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The temple is restored and the Kingdom.
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OK, I'm going to stop it there. As you can understand, there's a
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lot of kings and and a lot of a lot of nomads.
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Let's get into it, Matt. That's kind of a very infancy
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history, historian and historical take on it all.
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But to speed it up, how did the what was the Europe and the
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Jewish people like? And let's talk about where
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Zionism came into play here. Well.
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First off, I just wanted to mention briefly that we have
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this strange idea that when an invading force comes in that
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suddenly the the whole population is just ethnically
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cleansed to somewhere else, that that actually rarely happens in
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history. And so like for instance, the
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Palestinians we see today are the descendants, many of which
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were Jews who converted to Christianity or Islam later.
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So I just wanted to point that out first.
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Very, very good. So, so OK.
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So how did the Jews came from Ukraine?
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Is my understanding? OK, they came from Ukraine, the
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Kazarians, a sector of the the Judaism religion, and from my
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understanding the Zionist was a Far East political factor
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faction of that movement. Tell me where I'm wrong.
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Well. Europe, Central Europe,
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Switzerland, Zionism or but Zionism is a strange thing
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because it it it had many heads and it just came together at the
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right time. But what we see is Zionism
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today. The the the Fathers often agreed
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upon to be a Theodore Herzl from the Austro Hungarian Empire.
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Like for instance, the First Zionist Congress was actually in
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Basil, Switzerland I think in 1898.
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I could be wrong there, but it was around that time so I just
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lost my train of thought. Yes, you could see it growing
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throughout Europe and there's a lot of adversity between the
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two. But we, we need to get the
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baseline, the basis of what was happening in Europe at the time.
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There were a series of pogroms, and particularly in Russia and
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Eastern Europe in the 1880s, pogroms against Jewish
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populations. So many of the early Zionists
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were actually in good faith trying to solve the problem, you
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know, solve a serious problem with the, you know, and also in,
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in in Central and Western Europe, they were getting
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refugees from Romania, from Russia, from Ukraine because of
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these pogroms. So that also sparked a lot of
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anti immigration feelings from even the the established Jewish
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families, many of the established Jewish families in
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places like the United Kingdom or like England who have been
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there for a very long time. So, but also remember it was
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also in the context of colonial, you know, this colonial settler
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movements, the empires particularly look at the
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colonization of Africa that was going on throughout the 19th
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century. So then what you end up having
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is on one hand you have intellectual many secular and
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atheist Jews who are very concerned with what was
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happening in Eastern Europe for very good reason.
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And but you also had, you know, the the sparks of anti-Semitism.
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Like the if, if you guys are familiar with the Dreyfus affair
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in France, which is a great example of even in France where
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they didn't have the problems of the pogroms that they had a
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patriotic officer who saw himself as French first.
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Albert Dreyfus was always going to be looked on by the the
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ruling class as a Jew first, which was very problematic
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because he considered himself a French patriot.
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And whereas you have like also in England too, that the many of
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the established aristocratic Jewish families saw themselves
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as English first. So there was and there was a
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serious problem with massacres happening once again,
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particularly in Eastern Europe and Russia, but there was still
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a lot of anti-Semitism boiling in, in Central and Western
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Europe. Now that's one aspect of it.
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You got to go back a little further and remember the Ottoman
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Empire was ailing. It was a dying empire,
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particularly in the 19th and in the 20th centuries.
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You had some very you had two kind of two branches come into
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one in the 1840s, whereas the idea of bringing back for one
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like the dispensationalism, which I think was actually
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1850s. But there are ideas like that
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from Neil can talk better on that.
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But the millenarians of the acceleration, as we're looking
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to bring the second coming of Christ, but also some of them in
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the English, the English power dynamics, some of them wanted to
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also pick the pieces off the Ottoman Empire.
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Let me ask you this question because we hear anti-Semitism it
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you know it, it's changed so many definitions over the course
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of just a couple years. What was the classical sense of
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that anti-Semitism back then? Because, you know, you look at
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the Irish and what they endured by the British, you know, just
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100 years ago. I mean, well, that's that's what
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you say. These things are all related.
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Humans are very tribal in nature and we look at characteristics
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that are different than other people and then we shit on them.
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I mean you see that quite often. And so anti-Semitism is that's
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where when you try to make it like a separate entity than
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other forms of racism, it kind of starts becoming a caricature
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of itself. I think because there was severe
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prejudice and bigotry against Jewish people.
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And a lot of the irony is a lot of the stereotypes that were
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developed against Jewish people is because what Jewish people
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were limited to be able to do within those societies.
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So it was kind of and. What were those?
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Because a lot of it, too, was, you know, Masterpiece Theatre
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entertainment. In, in many, in many places in
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Europe, they can go to universities and things like
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that. And because, because usury was
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not frowned upon, they ended up, many of them.
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They saw that, you know, in the, the rudimentary banking systems
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of medieval Europe, for instance.
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So and then, but it was also because of the prejudice against
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them that they were forced into that.
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And that's also a lot of these communities.
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They were forced into an identity, if that makes sense.
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OK. But then also we've had another
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interesting thing in the 19th century is this idea of
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nationalism really, you know, the, the nationalism started
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really bursting forth in the 19th century to a different
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degree. And we started seeing and when
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you once you see Jews as a nation, when I remember, it's a
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religion. Judaism is a religion.
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It's not a nation, it's a, it's a vast diaspora of a lot of
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different people. That's the thing I mean, and
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that's the Ashkenazis, not just Mizrahis safaris and but no,
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they're vast Aspera people. And just due to time
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constraints, so now we have Jews throughout Europe.
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Let's talk about the Zionist faction and just who are the
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Zionists and and how did that all come together if we could.
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OK, yeah, so First off, what I was saying too is that some of
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the elite started getting the idea, 'cause this centers around
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the Ottoman Empire, that's pretty important.
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But the elite who were not Jews, they were generally Christians
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and Anglicans. In particular in England, they
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started thinking about picking the pieces off the Ottoman
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Empire, although for, you know, decades, the English stance was
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that the Ottoman Empire need, they needed stability.
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So it didn't create a World War basically like the, you know,
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you know, all these empires trying to pick off the pieces of
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the Ottoman Empire and go into war over each other.
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But there were early ideas of this in the 1840s, but from
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people like even suggesting Palestine, you know, because
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it's the Holy Land. And so that's just one element
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of it that was not related to the Judas or Jewish Zionism.
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It was just all these kind of things coming together.
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And you got to look at Theodore Herzl first, as he was the
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father of Jewish Zionism and he was actually agnostic about
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where they settled. There were a number of places
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they we're looking at which was like Madagascar, Angola.
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It was not just Palestine. And what's very interesting in a
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lot of what you see in their letters and stuff, most of them
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called it colonizing, whether it was colonizing Uganda, whether
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it was colonizing Madagascar, was colonizing Argentina, or was
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it colonizing Palestine. So, you know, the colonial
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endeavors, we were living in the age of colonialism, so it wasn't
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considered a bad thing. Now, a few of them showed
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concern about the people who actually lived there and
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particularly at the beginning. And you know, the revisionist
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Zionists who came later showed a lot less concern.
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But up until Theodore Herzl's death though it, which was I
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think 19 O 419 O 5, they were still debating on where to
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settle. You know, they were not.
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Not everybody was sold on Palestine.
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Interesting. Oh, OK, so now that that kind of
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brings us down to the late 1800s, Neil, and that's going to
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bring us to and and it's all connected.
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Everybody's you'll find out, you'll see here.
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But that's going to bring us now to the Schofield Bible.
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Well, up until recently, you know, I've often wondered what
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is the big, what's the big deal with some of these pastors and
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their love affair with Israel? I mean, I thought Mike Huckabee
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was just a bass player. All of a sudden he's the biggest
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sycophant and the number one fan with a foam finger of everything
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Israel. I mean, it's just incredible.
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His mistress is Israel, his best friend is Netanyahu, and dare I
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say what Rabbu Shmuley truly is to someone like Huckabee.
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But what is it about? Well, up until recently when
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Neil Bishop let the well let the cat in the matzo ball out of the
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well, the iron in the fire, I didn't really understand how
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pastors were learning their skill until it was told me they
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learned from something called the Schofield Bible.
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Well, Schofield is the following.
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Here he is. This guy here.
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It's a reference. Bible is a Zionist
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interpretation of Bible scriptures.
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Did you know? Footnoted in modern English,
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written in 19 O 9 by convicted felon Cyrus Schofield.
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Yes, it is. Who is who was financed by
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Jewish bachelors. They're saying with bribes and
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all kinds of ordeals, the Bible was forced into Bible colleges,
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the pulpits of Christian ministers.
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The 20th century Christian believes the Bible is now is a
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powerful Zionist tool, they say, in the creation and support of
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Israel and the subjugation of the Christian religion into
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Zionism. Really.
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Well, tell me more. Here is we watch this little
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piece and we'll get Neil's take on it after the fact.
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Check this out. 19 O 9 The prestigious Oxford University
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Press published his Reference Bible, a King James Bible filled
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with commentary and footnotes on the same page meant to explain
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the text. But interestingly, Schofield had
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no formal theological training to speak of, no seminary degree,
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in fact. Schofield was a pathological
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liar, a fraud, and a deadbeat who abandoned his family.
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And yet somehow this guy was able to create one of the most
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influential books of the 20th century, a book that convinced
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generations of evangelicals that the return of the Jews to
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Palestine was a fulfillment of biblical prophecy.
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Well, all the sentimental music aside, let's get down into the
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graphics of it all. OK, Neil, Neil Bishop, tell us
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this Schofield story because I am fascinated by it.
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That's it's crazy and and you know to what Matt was saying,
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it's really interesting 'cause he's been talking about
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Palestine. Look up pre nineteen O 9 Bible
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maps. You're not going to see an area
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called Israel, you're going to see an area called Palestine.
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That's what it was called. Just happened to have that right
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there. Yeah.
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Well, there you go. Well, pre Scofield, that area
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was Palestine. So the reason that that, I mean,
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it's so important for so many reasons.
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And I'll talk about in a minute, but just to kind of coat tail on
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what Matt was saying, who were the Palestinians at this time
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and who were the Jews that were being ushered into this land?
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Who were they kicking out? Because there's some pretty
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interesting documented evidence that maybe the people they were
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actually taking the land from were more Jewish than the Jews
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who were taking the land. It's it's crazy when you think
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about it. And they were dark skinned,
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which we've always assumed and believed.
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And I think it's accurate that, you know, Jews, specifically
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Sephardics, were dark skinned. And they're probably from the
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actual lineage. But also think about this, how
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do we really know? Can you date your ancestry back
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4000 years, you guys? So what are we really fighting
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for here? Do we know that Bibi Netanyahu
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is an actual Jew? Well, I can tell you what he is.
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He's some sort of Russian, European, Ukrainian mix probably
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that has nothing to do with the biblical lineage of Abraham,
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Isaac, Jacob, you know, Judah, David on through the line.
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So who are we really supporting here?
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But let me let me back up here for a second.
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Oh man, that. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
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I don't know what happened there.
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I know. A glitch in the system.
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Schofield is an interesting character.
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Now, if you're like me, you grow up reading the Scofield Bible.
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If you grow up in church, you have a Scofield Bible and you
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just think there's some guy that really liked the Bible and like
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to write notes about it. For some reason, there's like
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more Scofield notes in the Scripture than there's actually
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Scriptures. And that's kind of odd.
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But I, I, and I don't want to, I don't want to be clear.
27:33
I'm not going to enter into, oh, there's one of my favorite
27:35
persons. I'm not going to enter into
27:37
Scofield's motives. I, I, I, I don't know what his
27:41
motives were, but I can tell you this, he has a sketchy history.
27:45
I, I don't know if you knew this, but he spent some time in
27:47
prison. Some people don't know that it
27:50
was some he was, he was in a railroad scam with a Jewish
27:54
lawyer. It led to his imprisonment for a
27:56
while. While he was in prison, he
27:59
claimed to have have converted to Christianity.
28:02
He was a lawyer himself, but he started reading Darby and John
28:05
Darby and that's another big dispensationalist guy.
28:08
But and he he claimed to get converted and maybe he did.
28:11
He also claimed to get his doctrine, his doctorate of
28:14
divinity while he was in prison. And I'm not sure if that's true
28:16
or not, but that's what he claimed.
28:18
But he was a sketchy character in in regards to his life being
28:22
in prison. And also he was a divorced man.
28:24
He apparently allegedly ran off with his mistress and end up
28:29
leaving her as well before his third person.
28:32
I don't know if he married his mistress or his second or third
28:35
wife or whatever, but he was also very well connected.
28:38
Now he's purportedly a part of the sort of a subgroup of the
28:43
Illumina of the Illuminati called the Secret 6.
28:46
If you guys have heard of that, but you can look it up.
28:48
He became a protege of a guy who was also involved in that named
28:53
Samuel Untermeyer. That might ring a bell as well.
28:56
Untermeyer had the ear of 1 Woodrow Wilson, which is really
29:01
interesting. So, so they're, they're shaping
29:04
sort of this their, their, their, what their desire was to
29:08
was to bring in a new Israel under the Balfour declaration,
29:11
which if you guys haven't looked that up, you need to look up the
29:13
Balfour declaration is actually really simple.
29:15
Go ahead, I'll take a breath. Just take a breath.
29:17
Just real quick, before Schofield, what were Christians
29:21
using as like their biblical, you know, itineraries at that
29:27
time? Yeah, most Christians were
29:29
listening to their, their pastor.
29:31
Most Christians were, were they, They were reading their Bible.
29:34
I mean, there were other men and Schofield wasn't the, he wasn't
29:38
the one that started Zionism. He was the one who basically
29:41
made it popular in Christianity. But there was John Darby, who
29:45
was a, he was a, he was a popular one at the time, too.
29:47
There were some other authors and big preachers, you know,
29:50
there was DL Moody and others who, who people were listening
29:53
to. But for the most part, people
29:55
didn't have like a systemized book in their hands where they
30:00
could read and go, oh, Israel still needs to go back to their
30:04
original land. Cause, Schofield said it said
30:07
that's what these scriptures mean.
30:08
Oh, OK. So it most people wasn't for
30:10
that industry. There wasn't an industry for
30:13
pastors. OK.
30:14
No. And and it wasn't.
30:15
It wasn't centralized. So everything, you know, it was
30:18
more, it was more localized and people didn't have just one
30:22
solid belief. There wasn't a mainstream
30:24
Christian belief except for the most part, people thought that
30:28
Israel was a thing of the past as far as the fulfillment of
30:32
biblical prophecy was concerned. They thought that already
30:35
happened, which I still think there's a good case to say that
30:37
that that is probably actually what's true and that the
30:40
prophecies that people are believing in now mainly based on
30:44
the work of John, Darby and Scofield, they are misleading
30:49
people to think that Israel is still fulfilling Bible prophecy
30:53
today. And interesting and I agree with
30:56
Seth Black saying Woodrow Wilson, one of the worst
30:58
presidents of all time. I concur, Seth.
31:01
You couldn't said it better and we have Margaret.
31:05
The White House man, I mean, that's.
31:09
King James Bible in every hotel now.
31:11
I thought it was Gideon's Bible. Now Gideon, the rival of
31:15
Snowfield. Are they rivals like the
31:16
Mongrels and the? I don't know they're rivals, but
31:19
Gideon's another, another division.
31:21
And I would, I would much prefer people, if they're gonna read
31:23
the Bible, to read Gideon's Bible 'cause they're, they're
31:25
not gonna have all the notes in there and things like that.
31:27
This is interesting too, though. Now, 1917 is an important date.
31:30
Matt was talking about how the Ottoman Empire was under duress
31:35
and having problems. It's a very aged empire.
31:38
I mean, it went on for many, many hundreds of years, longer
31:41
than empires are supposed to last.
31:43
And there was a lot of peace. It was really interesting.
31:45
But since 1917, a couple of important dates. 1 is that was
31:50
the edited version of Scofield Study Bible just happened to be
31:53
published in 1917. It would.
31:55
It originally came out in 1909. He had an edited version that
31:58
became very, very popular in 19/19/17.
32:01
Guess what else happened in 1917?
32:04
The Balfour, the the Balfour Declaration, and if you're not
32:07
familiar with that, you guys need to look it up.
32:08
But basically what it said was it was it was a letter from the
32:11
British Foreign Secretary, Lord Rothschild.
32:16
That's an important name, a leader of the British Jewish
32:20
community. It stated this His Majesty's
32:22
government views with favor of the establishment in Palestine
32:25
of a national home for the Jewish people and will use their
32:30
best efforts to facilitate the objective.
32:34
Provided that nothing shall be done to prejudice the civil and
32:36
religious rights of existing non Jewish communities in Palestine,
32:40
which who knows if they were non Jewish.
32:42
I I think they probably were more Jewish than than what came
32:45
and took over there. But that's important because
32:47
that was the Rothschild involvement there.
32:49
Now guess where funding at least indirectly came for the
32:53
Schofield Study Bible. It came from the Oxford press
32:57
and guess who funded that? I'll bet you guys know.
33:00
The Rothschild. The Lord Rothschild Yeah, in.
33:03
Fact here to accentuate what Neil said here in.
33:07
Jewish history, and it begins with three words, Dear Lord
33:11
Rothschild. Dear Lord Rothschild, I have
33:15
much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's
33:18
Government, the following declaration of sympathy with
33:21
Jewish Zionist aspirations, which has been submitted to and
33:26
approved by the Cabinet. Why was it that this letter was
33:29
sent by the Foreign Secretary to your great Uncle Walter?
33:33
It's an interesting question because it was primarily a
33:38
movement from Eastern Europe, but they didn't clarify who was
33:44
in charge of that movement. And in addition, it was our
33:49
fraud in Great Britain. So they felt that the Rothschild
33:52
family should be the one to whom it was addressed.
33:58
Neil, would you like to speak on that a little bit?
34:00
Neil, if you could, please. I'll just remind everyone what
34:04
happened in 1776. That's why we don't talk like
34:07
that anymore now. This is, This is why it
34:09
mattered. This is why.
34:10
Speak for yourself, yeah? It was the first major
34:13
endorsement by a world power for the creation of a Jewish
34:17
homeland in what was then, as Matt was talking about, the
34:20
Ottoman controlled Palestine. So they're basically getting
34:24
their hands in this and it was their way to get the US involved
34:27
as well. And this is one of the biggest
34:29
movements. I, I mean, in our known history
34:32
really, because this is all leading to the complete control.
34:36
That's why people, they, they make fun of me when they go,
34:38
what are there 15,000,000 people or 15,000,000 Jews out there?
34:43
And there's a billion and some Christians and, and you really
34:45
think that the Jews are going to take over the world.
34:47
And, and when I talk about Jews, I'm not talking about it.
34:50
I'll just clarify this. I'm not talking about the
34:52
lineage of Jacob. I mean, I, I, I don't even know
34:55
who those people are anymore. How could we possibly know?
34:58
I'm talking about those who call themselves Jews and most of them
35:01
are white European skinned Jews and, and, and Ashkenazi.
35:06
Exactly. And if you want to read an
35:08
interesting book by an Ashkenazi Jew, it'd be by Jack Bernstein,
35:11
The Life of an American Jew in Israel, and he was married to a
35:14
Sephardic Jew. And he'll tell you about how
35:16
racist the Ashkenazis are to the Sephardics, interestingly
35:20
enough. Well, my, my best friend is
35:23
Mizrahi and they left, they left Israel because of partially
35:28
because of the races, because she looks Palestinian, so.
35:32
Well, and it's crazy because when when Americans go to a tour
35:36
of the Holy Land, we don't see Israel.
35:38
I mean, we see some of the land, but you don't get an idea of
35:41
what it would be like me going to Cancun saying I've been to
35:44
Mexico, but no, no, you, no, you haven't.
35:48
I mean, you're getting the tourist.
35:49
Version Pines and a place the European pine tree should not
35:52
grow, which leads to big fire hazards too.
35:55
So Yep. Yeah, there, there's a lot of
35:58
history here that's really important for people to
36:00
understand. And this, this, this influence
36:03
and, and the beginnings of Zionism are really the
36:06
beginnings of a one world order. And that's what that's, that's
36:11
the end goal here, you guys. That's why this is so important.
36:14
People say, well, why don't why, why are you so vocal about the
36:17
Jews in Israel, but not the Muslims and, and, and Islam and
36:20
look, both two things can be true at the same time.
36:23
Two people groups or two religions can be bad at the same
36:26
time. I think that I, I'm not a
36:28
proponent of Islam and I don't like Islamic terrorists.
36:31
But do I have to say that every time I bring up this idea about
36:35
the, the Jews in Israel controlling, I have to because
36:38
otherwise I'm, I'm antiseptic or whatever the words they use.
36:42
But, but I'll tell you this though, the countries like Qatar
36:48
and Iran and Iraq, as bad as they may be, they're not funding
36:53
Congress. There's there's one country
36:56
that's funding them and that's actually money being funneled
36:59
over to them, being funneled back into the pockets of our
37:02
politicians. So.
37:03
That's why. I'm talking there's a lot of
37:04
truth on that. There's.
37:06
Also 50 years old. That's the thing, right?
37:10
It exists in the early 1970s. All the liberation movements for
37:15
were allied with Marxist movements at the time.
37:18
Well, and, and to top that off too, Matt, I mean, just just the
37:22
idea that the, the, the reason why it's important to me is
37:27
because this ideology is controlling the church in the
37:30
West right now. And people wouldn't even know
37:34
about this if there wasn't for some of these study Bibles.
37:36
Like if you were in North Korea in an underground church, just
37:41
reading whatever Bible you get your hands on, just reading the
37:43
word, you have no clue about this stuff.
37:46
And thankfully where the underground church in China,
37:48
they don't know what we know because we're we're reading the
37:51
study as a Catholic. Catholics, I have no clue about
37:54
it. Catholics have no clue about
37:56
anything in Bible. So this is all that's.
37:57
Interesting too, because there's, there's a, there's a,
38:00
there's a segment. Now, I'm not a Catholic, but
38:02
there is a segment of Catholicism that is against what
38:06
Israel is doing. It's really interesting to see
38:08
those two kind of butt. Heads I would love to hear more
38:10
about that but I want to ask you about this and we're going to
38:12
get back into like the modern day Israel in the creation of
38:15
it. But look at this here I want to
38:17
get your take on the following not that but this rather
38:21
dispensationalism. OK, let me tell you what this is
38:25
for all of you newcomers out there.
38:27
Well, I did the the unfortunate study search, which I never
38:33
usually do. And in these cases, unlike high
38:36
school, I did. And let me tell you what this
38:38
is. And Neil might know a thing or
38:39
two is this is a Christian theology, A theological
38:44
framework for interpreting the Christian Bible, which maintains
38:47
that history is divided into multiple ages called
38:52
dispensations in which God interacts with his chosen people
38:55
in different ways. It is often distinguished from
38:59
the covenant theology of the traditional Reformed view of
39:02
reading the Bible. These are two competing
39:05
frameworks of biblical theology that attempt to explain overall
39:09
the continuity in the Bible. Well, in layman's terms, how I
39:13
interpret that is they're trying to find a way to manipulate the
39:18
teachings and do it in some kind of archaic MK Ultra kind of
39:24
disposition. Am I correct on that, Neil?
39:26
Yeah, and I don't know their motives.
39:29
And Speaking of which, I need to apologize to Matt.
39:31
I think I talked over him and interrupted him a little bit ago
39:33
and I get excited. You did.
39:35
You did you. Did.
39:38
Jeez, I. Apologize for you, Yeah.
39:40
Please. Do.
39:40
I'm sorry, Matt? Yes, go.
39:42
Ahead I I don't know if the motive in teaching
39:45
dispensationalism originally was to like deceive people.
39:49
I, I, I don't know, and I grew up learning dispensationalism.
39:52
But yeah, it's, it's revolves around Israel.
39:55
It's the idea that the Jewish people would be physically
39:57
restored in this current dispensation in which we live,
40:01
which started with basically with the coming of Christ and
40:06
will end with Christ coming back.
40:09
This is the teaching. This is not what I believe, but
40:11
this dispensation would end with Christ coming back.
40:15
And planning his feet in Jerusalem in the land today in
40:19
the the physical land that people believe or they're taught
40:22
that is Jerusalem. And that's what would end the
40:25
dispensation. So the reason that's important
40:27
to dispensationalism is important is because Christians
40:30
have been led to believe that we need to, there needs to be 1/3
40:34
temple built, which would actually usher in the
40:38
Antichrist, which he would commit what's called the
40:42
abomination of desolation, where he would desecrate and pollute
40:47
the the temple of God. And then that would initiate
40:50
God's wrath on mankind. And then the Day of Atonement
40:55
would come, which is one of the feasts of Israel in the Old
40:58
Testament. We get into that if we want to,
41:00
but that would be fulfilled when Israel as a whole repents of her
41:04
sin and comes to Christ and receives Christ the Messiah.
41:08
So Christians get really excited about that because they think,
41:10
oh man, the Temple Institute, templeinstitute.org, they're
41:13
building another temple. They're going to get the red
41:15
heifer, they're going to slay a red heifer, and the Antichrist
41:18
is going to be who's the Antichrist?
41:19
And they get all excited about who the Antichrist is going to
41:21
be. And then we're like, man, if we
41:23
just, we're going to get raptured out of here.
41:25
That's another thing that dispensationalism teaches is
41:27
that the rapture's going to come first and then the Third
41:30
Temple's going to be built and then the Antichrist.
41:33
It's stuff that's not. If you just read your Bible,
41:35
you're not going to conclude that.
41:37
Now, maybe some good hearted people in the past, like
41:39
Scofield, if he had a good heart, I don't know, maybe they
41:42
thought they were teaching the right thing.
41:44
But I think we rely heavily on institutions and study notes and
41:49
seminaries, which I call, you know, cemeteries because it's
41:52
where people's faith goes to die.
41:54
At these seminaries, they're taught Calvinism and
41:57
dispensationalism and things that I just can't find in the
42:00
Bible. I'm just, I'm a simple guy that
42:02
that, you know, reads my Bible and I kind of go from there.
42:05
So it it. Seems like also the ultimate.
42:08
Sorry to interrupt, but it's no. No, no, no.
42:10
Go ahead, please. It's, it's circular prophecy.
42:14
We're going to push, push this as hard as possible by getting,
42:17
you know, like for instance, getting all these big empires on
42:23
our side and then we're going to create it.
42:25
And then we're going to use that as evidence of.
42:29
We'll see. Look, it's in the prophecy.
42:32
Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, it's
42:33
actually quite absurd when you think about it.
42:36
It it it's weird too because you know, you look at Bill Maher for
42:40
example, who is a very well known atheist who did a movie
42:46
called Religulous and really just disbounts any kind of
42:50
religions in as much as discourse as you can find it.
42:55
However, when it comes to Israel, well, he says, well,
42:58
it's in their history, it's in their book, their Torah that
43:01
they deserve that land. And I'm thinking, which one is
43:05
it? Which now brings us to this, the
43:07
creation of Israel. Well, yes, as we're learning a
43:11
lot of things here, many of us again as adults, we learned
43:15
about the 1948, well, wonderful, warm welcoming of the Kazarian
43:21
Jews to that little place that Ben Shapiro doesn't seem to
43:26
understand or recognize called Palestine.
43:29
Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about.
43:30
Yeah. The creation of Israel came into
43:33
place, and maybe Woodrow Wilson had a lot to do with it, or
43:37
maybe he didn't. However, Lord Rothschild, as you
43:40
heard him murmur there just earlier.
43:42
Yeah, they had a lot to do with it in the City of London.
43:46
Well, let's maybe have a little look into it as we try to find
43:50
out. Really, how did this all come
43:53
about and why did they pick Palestine and why are we tied to
43:58
the hip of this creepy country if you ask me, Well here it is.
44:02
Have a look at this and you do the math and so will the guys.
44:06
The creation of Israel. Stein They promised Arab leaders
44:13
independence if they rose up against Britain's enemy, the
44:16
Ottoman Empire. The Arabs did.
44:18
Hollywood even made a movie about it.
44:21
Arabia's for the Arabs now. That's what I've told them
44:24
anyway. That's what they think, that's
44:29
why they're fighting. Oh, surely.
44:31
A month after Balfour's letter, British troops took Palestine,
44:35
ending 400 years of Ottoman rule.
44:37
The people who lived there were Arabs, mostly Muslims, but they
44:41
were Christian and Jewish minorities too.
44:43
There was also a tiny number of European Jews who in the late
44:47
1800s has started building small colonies there.
44:50
At a time when when many Jews were suffering horrific
44:53
persecution in Europe, they felt Palestine could be an escape.
44:57
The idea of building up a Jewish presence in Palestine became
45:01
known as Zionism, but it stayed a fringe movement among European
45:04
Jews. Many of them felt they shouldn't
45:07
have to leave their countries to avoid persecution.
45:10
But Zionism as a political movement took a big step forward
45:13
with an Austrian man called Theodore Herzl.
45:16
And this guy is a very important name in this story.
45:20
In 1896, he published Der Yudenstadt, or in English, the
45:25
Jewish State. In it he said the only way for
45:28
Jews to avoid Europe's anti-Semitism was not just to
45:31
leave, but to have their own country.
45:34
And Herzl didn't just write the next year, he organized the
45:37
conference in Basel, Switzerland, the First Zionist
45:40
Congress. The attendees agreed on a
45:42
program which sought, among other things, to establish a
45:46
Jewish homeland in Palestine and promote Jewish settlement in
45:49
Palestine. From here on out, the Zionist
45:52
movement became very active, setting up funds to promote
45:55
Jewish immigration to Palestine, companies to buy land there, and
45:59
recruiting representatives to advocate for their cause with
46:02
different governments. A few days after the conference,
46:06
Herzl wrote this in his diary. At Basel I founded the Jewish
46:10
state. In five years, perhaps, and
46:13
certainly in 50 years, everyone will perceive it.
46:17
He was only off by one year. Wow.
46:20
Well there you go. There's a little Cliff note
46:23
version of how it all came about as the creation of Israel really
46:28
has set the battleground ready for World War Three.
46:32
You know, Matt, I'm going to go to you.
46:35
Matt, I'm going to go to you first.
46:36
As you know, look, many people have said, even William Cooper,
46:42
that the entire creation of Israel in 1948 after the United
46:47
Nations came about in 1945 was really to set us to the point
46:52
where we are today as the the set of the front of World War 3.
46:56
And ultimately, as Neil said, the one world government.
47:00
Isn't that the case? I think it might be a little
47:06
more nuanced than that. Like for instance, I think this
47:10
all still goes down to empire. Even more important in many
47:15
ways. And then the Balfour declaration
47:18
was a man named Mark Sykes, who with the French, you've probably
47:23
heard of Sykes Picot. They carved up the Ottoman
47:26
Empire before it was even dead. So this is this is AI think a
47:32
very colonial empire empire project.
47:40
What's interesting though is in 1939, there was something called
47:44
the white paper which came out. England started realizing their
47:49
mistake and started heavily restricting Jewish immigration
47:56
into Palestine and that really pissed off the Zionist and it
48:02
also created a terrorist movement that started in, you
48:05
know, like the first modern terrorists, the organization Air
48:09
Goon Haganah and Lehigh. They started using terrorist
48:13
activities, particularly after World War 2 in 1946, where they
48:18
culminated in the bombing of the King David Hotel.
48:21
Menachem Begin, who later became Prime Minister, he would
48:25
couldn't even travel to the UK for 20 years after that because
48:29
he was considered a terrorist because he's the one who ordered
48:32
the bombing of the King David Hotel.
48:35
But I think when you get to that point, the English, especially
48:40
with the later of Churchill and then the Attlee government after
48:43
Churchill, they were, they had a lot of Zionism fatigue.
48:50
And I think what ended up happening though too is at that
48:53
time the English started getting empire fatigue.
48:56
They started having a big devaluing pound.
48:59
And so it was decided to to pull out of some areas of the empire
49:03
and helping leave us with this mess.
49:06
And at the same time, the Russia of the Soviet Union and the
49:10
United States, you know, pretty much agreed on the supporting of
49:16
the Jewish state. And so then by 1947, you had the
49:20
partition, which insanely, even though the Palestinians still
49:24
made-up over 2/3 of the population, around 70%, why were
49:28
they getting 48% of the land and all the shitty land?
49:32
So when they say like, you know, that's, you know, you hear that
49:35
it's all the time. You know, the Palestinians
49:38
always miss opportunities. They could have agreed to
49:41
partition, but you're telling like it's like somebody coming
49:45
into my house and saying, OK, you get the shitty third of my
49:48
house, you get the shitty 48% of my house or I'm sorry, that's
49:52
just how it is. And then you say, no, that's not
49:55
fair. And then so then a war develops
49:58
between you 2 and and then they say, well, you know, they should
50:00
have agreed. You're.
50:02
Squanders man. You're freaking.
50:05
Squaders, that's what Neil, let me let me go to you here as we
50:10
have a heartbreak coming up here.
50:11
But before we do, isn't this just fulfilling prophecy?
50:16
Maybe Matt doesn't understand that this is where we need the
50:20
the Israel to come into play. We have the red heifer on deck.
50:25
Don't we just need this? And the Jews have to be there so
50:27
when Jesus comes back, he can swat them with a a bamboo stick.
50:31
Are we just playing into our our duty as servants?
50:36
Well, I do think that. So there, there is.
50:42
I, I, I think we're, there's always prophecy being fulfilled.
50:45
So in, in some ways, yes, but in the way that 90% of Christians
50:51
think about it, I don't believe that that's the case.
50:54
Zionism is the fundamental belief that the modern state of
50:59
Israel represents biblical Israel.
51:02
And I think that's a big error right there.
51:04
And it believes that the state of Israel has the right to take
51:07
over Palestine, as Matt's been talking about, and has the right
51:11
to expand into what's called Greater Israel.
51:14
And I think that's been Netanyahu's goal, to get the US
51:17
to fund the Greater Israel Project and to wipe out places
51:22
like Gaza and to justify it. And if you're Trump or Trump 2
51:26
point O or whatever that person is right now, you want to build
51:30
a statue, a golden statue of yourself there.
51:32
Now, when it comes to that, I'm like, I don't want to be on that
51:35
side of things. Trump, you're going to have to
51:37
answer to God for that. 1 So be careful about what you, what you
51:40
want there. But it's a very dogmatic
51:43
teaching, especially within the church now that we at primarily
51:47
in the US must support Israel because it's our biblical duty.
51:51
And that's what I take issue with.
51:53
And that's why I think this is such a fundamental and important
51:55
issue is because people have believed for so long in the Ted
51:59
Cruz Sunday school doctrine, if you bless Israel, you'll be
52:04
blessed. If you curse them, you'll be
52:05
cursed. So if I just say a prayer, a
52:07
blessing over Israel right now, I'm going to magically be
52:09
blessed. And if I curse them, I'll be
52:11
cursed and God's going to just push the, the red button on me.
52:14
So Zionism really at its heart, and This is why it's dangerous,
52:18
I believe to Christianity, it removes Christ from the equation
52:23
because I think it's pretty obvious when you read the New
52:25
Testament and that Jesus Christ came and fulfilled biblical
52:31
Israel. It's very fascinating to look at
52:33
that. And now God's chosen people are
52:36
all those everywhere, no matter their race, color, gender,
52:40
ideology, that they came from, that they're born in their
52:43
lineage. It doesn't matter.
52:44
God's chosen people are all those that choose God's chosen
52:47
person. His chosen person is Jesus
52:49
Christ. If you receive Christ, God
52:51
receives you that that is what the Christian message is.
52:54
And it's completely lost in the church today.
52:58
In large part, I think based on what started as Schofield Study
53:02
Bible and what turned into the Moody Institute and the Dallas
53:06
Theological Seminary and and all these other, you know,
53:10
seminaries and colleges that people are learning from, you
53:12
know, pastors are just parroting the same exact message over and
53:17
over and over again. It's pounded into our heads.
53:19
And if you try to have like social media conversations,
53:21
people about this, if you want some people to unfriend you and
53:24
to call you the antiseptic term and many other, you know, choice
53:28
phrases, do it because I, it's happened to me so many times, I
53:30
can't even count now. And I'm nice about it too.
53:33
You guys know I'm nice. Come.
53:34
On my my friend is Mizrahi and she gets called anti-Semitic, so
53:37
there. You go.
53:38
Oh my gosh. But also, if you want to be
53:40
something part of something so monstrously cruel, that is just
53:44
like the 19th century empires, it's like the Germans.
53:47
The Germans in Namibia in 19 O 6 or was 19 O four.
53:51
It was you know that they killed 85% of the the Namib and the
53:59
Herrera. The Herrera can't quite
54:02
remember, but they killed 85% of the populations.
54:05
Does anyone one really want to be part of something so
54:08
monstrously cruel? You know what I mean?
54:11
Well, no kidding. And I mean.
54:13
We're good. This is like.
54:15
This is 19th century colonialism at at its apotheosis rate here.
54:20
And I thought we were in the 21st century, but apparently not
54:23
so. We, we are, but we're not there.
54:27
There's still, I mean, so many archaic practices.
54:29
I mean, we're still doing chemotherapy for Chrono.
54:31
I mean, that's how archaic we are still.
54:34
And you know what was? That line that humans have
54:38
paleolithic minds, medieval institutions and God like
54:41
technology. Yeah, exactly.
54:45
Well, here we have a break coming up here and you know, you
54:48
guys make some great points. And you know, another thing too,
54:51
how is this inviting more people to become to go to these
54:54
churches and become Christians? I think it would be a turn off
54:57
to anyone who's seeing what what in the world's happening in Gaza
54:59
too, as as much as the the priest scandal was a turn off to
55:04
getting new membership for the Catholic Church.
55:06
You know, I mean, it's just people are not thinking like
55:09
that, Neil. So anyways, when we get back,
55:13
everybody and stand by there guys, when we get back here at
55:16
the lounge for our season finale, we're going to be
55:19
getting into October 7th of the dreadful day that changed a lot
55:24
of well, the the speech, hate speech, the definition of it and
55:29
the new and created the new. Not the new woke, but the new
55:33
kosher, right? Yeah, yeah.
55:36
We're going to be talking about everything kosher in the modern
55:39
day and how that affects us and how it gave us, you know, the
55:45
people behind JFK and the people who could be potentially behind
55:49
the new JFK assassination called Charlie Kirk.
55:52
And, you know, where does Erica or some of the Erica stand in on
55:57
this? We're going to find out is Neil
56:00
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56:03
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media as well. And you can't talk about Shields
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and not talk about, well, Laura Loomer, who I've been just very
56:40
fond of, is fond of including in the shows lately.
56:43
Well, she's now part of a new series called How to Make a
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Shield. In this next clip, you're going
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These are the same type of nutrients that you can find in
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right? But this is all protected bison
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hormones, there's no vaccines given to the bison.
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So you could actually share these nutrients with your
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animals. So you could eat this yourself.
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And I'm going to show you this isn't a gimmick.
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This is not just, you know, some trash dog food from China, OK?
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These are supplements and these are products that are so healthy
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It tastes like meat. And.
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Maybe that is disgusting to you. I'll show you right here.
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Look, this is the bison. Product right here it.
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OK, Thank you. You know what I'm saying, Matt,
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Zionist versus the West. Yes, Let's introduce the staff
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1:01:37
from Northern California. They won the only.
1:01:40
They won the only math Matthew Millen.
1:01:43
There it is. And joining us all the way from
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Texas. Man who's no friend of
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Schofield, although he'll say he's not sure if he has hate in
1:01:51
his heart. Well, I can assure you, Neil, I
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think he did. The one, the only.
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I like, I don't mind. I mean, I don't, you know,
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Schofield, whatever, but it's Greg Lock that we need to get in
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up? A UFC thing.
1:02:08
Well, yeah, and we're going to do that.
1:02:10
And also we should say Netanyahu's here tonight.
1:02:14
I found that one. Yeah, we're going to be talking
1:02:16
about that in. We have a lot of people in the
1:02:23
incredible live chats over there.
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Let me go to Rumble here. We're going to be taking your
1:02:26
live questions as it goes, as it comes.
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We have Mr. Watlin, who's saying Zionism is racism on steroids.
1:02:35
That's right, yeah. I wonder if a Zionist take the
1:02:38
steroid shot right in the ass just like the.
1:02:42
Certainly revision is Zionism. Absolutely.
1:02:44
That's even worse. That's even worse than regular
1:02:47
Zionism. OK, we have Liz Marchant all the
1:02:49
way from Australia saying I'm happy to have faith, but no
1:02:53
religion. OK, well, all right, you got to
1:02:56
have faith, you know, as that song tells you, there you have
1:02:59
it. We have another one.
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That's what I'm saying, Neil, is this is such a turn off for
1:03:05
people to I think get in any organized religion, which I've
1:03:10
always stated is reminds me of just the guy doing the same book
1:03:14
report every weekend about what his interpretation of the Bible
1:03:17
is. You know, interesting stuff
1:03:20
there. OK.
1:03:21
And then finally, we have Maddie Lynn.
1:03:24
Excuse me, Hammer time saying preachers turn their collars
1:03:26
around to everyone to get miracles.
1:03:31
OK. All right.
1:03:32
I'm not sure about that one. And the Madeline finally says,
1:03:34
I'm sure your grandmother has seen the many ways the church
1:03:37
has changed over the years. That's in regards to Dave
1:03:41
Inator. Yeah, and my grandmother, too,
1:03:44
it might add. But I saw the church changing.
1:03:47
They start letting little girl or girls become altar boys or
1:03:51
altar girls. I think I just totally botched
1:03:56
that. Anyways, OK, we're going to
1:03:58
continue on now and we're going to get to more of the modern day
1:04:03
Israel and everything that follows here in the second-half
1:04:05
as we rush to that sunset. So let's get started, shall we?
1:04:09
As now it's time for the lounge, the long stretch home, as they
1:04:16
say. Let's get going.
1:04:35
It's, you know, it pays to have a house ban and I'll tell you,
1:04:38
you haven't lived until you have that.
1:04:40
Well, October 7th, 2023. Do you remember where you were
1:04:43
that day exactly? I don't either.
1:04:45
Well, let me tell you what happened in case you were
1:04:47
sleeping or really recovering from a hangover that you didn't
1:04:51
really want to have. It's October 7th, the day that
1:04:54
will live in infamy, the day that will live very much in a
1:05:00
similar way as 911 as there was a lot of alleged stand down
1:05:04
orders, a lot of alleged everything.
1:05:08
Yes, it was the day that Hamas that was funded in pretty much
1:05:12
prodded, funded, financed, authored, created by Benjamin
1:05:19
Netanyahu or as we know him here on the streets, John J Sullivan,
1:05:23
as the recent documents have now told us.
1:05:25
Yeah, Have you heard about John J Sullivan?
1:05:27
Guys, you have not fully understood the true genius.
1:05:31
Well, October 7th was the day that has changed the narrative
1:05:35
in the direction of Israel and the plight of the Palestinians.
1:05:39
Well, it got that much more dire and same with the Americans as
1:05:44
we've been tied to every destructionist and destructive
1:05:48
kind of ordeal that has taken place in Gaza and throughout the
1:05:51
Middle East since we're talking Lebanon, Turkey, Syria, Gaza, of
1:05:56
course, but there's other people that felt the same way.
1:06:01
Well, in fact, well, this is what Charlie Kirk felt right
1:06:04
after it. Well, he said the following when
1:06:06
I first heard about October 7th in the in official story, he
1:06:11
said, quote, I still have the same gut instinct.
1:06:14
The whole country is a fortress. I've been to the Gaza border.
1:06:17
Netanyahu now has an emergency government and mandate.
1:06:21
I think some questions need to be asked.
1:06:23
Was there a stand down order? Well, what's he talking about?
1:06:27
Well look at this, this just came out.
1:06:30
When the hell Levy presented the cabinet with the IDF actions in
1:06:34
the first 48 hours of the war in October 7th and everything that
1:06:38
followed. He noted that the Air Force had
1:06:39
attacked 1500 targets in Gaza. It's a huge number requiring
1:06:43
exceptional intelligence, They're saying well, Netanyahu
1:06:46
erupted in anger, yelling and banging on the table.
1:06:49
He scolded the chief of staff. He said we don't have 5000
1:06:53
approved targets. They told him I'm not interested
1:06:56
in targets, Netanyahu retorted. Take down houses, bomb with
1:07:01
everything you have. And in addition to the former
1:07:06
Israeli Defense minister, Yav Gallant has now admitted using
1:07:10
the Hannibal directive to kill Israeli civilians and soldiers
1:07:14
during the October 7th attack. Well, how do you like them
1:07:19
apples? Let's talk about that, guys.
1:07:22
Matt, I'll start with you. Did you have a heavy heart
1:07:27
initially with October 7th and has it evolved ever since?
1:07:31
Of course, But at the same time, you can't look at it without
1:07:35
context. Now, Hamas is like so many other
1:07:41
insurrection, you know, insurrectionary forces, that
1:07:46
they commit atrocities. They do that, but you still have
1:07:50
to. The lion's share of the power is
1:07:52
with one side and one side only. And that side has been
1:07:55
subjugating Palestinians for way longer than Hamas existed.
1:07:59
Hamas came in 1987 where that was already 40 years of the
1:08:05
complete. I mean, you can go back further
1:08:07
like the is the Zionists had a part to play in the Arab revolts
1:08:12
from 1936 to 1939. But you know, before Hamas,
1:08:16
there was the Sabra and Shatila massacre, there was the ethnic
1:08:20
cleansing of 750,000 people in 1948.
1:08:23
There was the ethnic cleansing of another quarter of a million
1:08:26
people in 1967. So suddenly to put all that on
1:08:31
Hamas is year zero. I knew what was coming.
1:08:35
I mean, I I knew a genocide that this is what they needed to
1:08:40
start, like with their Greater Israel project.
1:08:43
As Neil mentioned, this was a very.
1:08:45
Good point, Very good point. You know, Neil, go ahead.
1:08:50
Finish your thought there. Matt, sorry.
1:08:52
Look, anybody who dies, I'm not going to be happy or
1:08:56
celebratory. You know what?
1:08:58
I'm so, and I just got this feeling, I've been in the, you
1:09:03
know, it was the same thing though, when I was in Libya,
1:09:06
when I started hearing like when I was in Benghazi and we started
1:09:09
hearing the rumors of Gaddafi's forces putting babies in ovens,
1:09:15
raping all these women, you know, a mass raping women.
1:09:19
I was just thinking, and when I first heard that, my first
1:09:22
thought was in October 7th, I was thinking, you know, that's
1:09:26
the first step of dehumanization that almost every group does.
1:09:31
You could probably hear some Serbs saying that about what the
1:09:36
Ottomans did to, to, to justify doing what they did to the
1:09:39
Bosnians. Do you see what I'm saying?
1:09:42
That's that's just like the first step of the immunization.
1:09:45
So I just, I felt what was coming.
1:09:48
And most of us who studied this, it was no surprise, I think most
1:09:53
of us felt that this was coming. I don't know how you got it,
1:09:56
but. It just, well, yeah, I, I to,
1:09:59
to, to answer that, you know, I would say that the average
1:10:04
American was not even thinking about Israel in 2023.
1:10:09
I think we were, you know, Ukraine was on the map.
1:10:13
In my case, I was thinking about the rubber mask president at
1:10:18
that time, Joe Biden, and just who's truly running the office.
1:10:22
Will he or won't he? Will Trump come back?
1:10:24
I mean, but Israel was so far from my thought.
1:10:29
And, you know, I'm from Orange County, Neil, and there's not
1:10:33
really a lot of Jewish people here.
1:10:36
I never grew up around Jews. I've not until I started working
1:10:40
in Hollywood did I ever encounter any.
1:10:42
And it just was so far removed from me.
1:10:46
And then October 7th happened and the first thing that came in
1:10:50
my mind was well, whatever happened to Arafat, the PLO, as
1:10:55
Matt stated earlier, every time there was a peace agreement for
1:10:58
A2 state solution. Well, well, it was the PLO or
1:11:01
somebody that that fired a rocket all of a sudden.
1:11:04
And the further I looked into it, Neil is the more I saw
1:11:09
infiltration by Hamas creating, finding a bogeyman at the very
1:11:13
top to then justify an ethnic cleansing.
1:11:18
So that to me right away is what I learned from October 7th.
1:11:21
Neil Boschop. Well, you know, what's
1:11:24
interesting about that is that was the late great Charlie
1:11:28
Kirk's sort of sort of like a awakening, I think.
1:11:33
I mean, I'm not going to speak for the guy at who's either he's
1:11:36
either late or he's in Valhalla, you know, according to our FBI
1:11:39
director, I'm not sure where he's at, but whatever happened
1:11:41
there, yeah, October 7th was when he started talking about,
1:11:46
hey guys, why was there a stand down order?
1:11:50
Why does the, the, this country, this nation that has the
1:11:54
greatest defense in the world, they just kind of allowed these
1:11:58
guys to just drop in from the sky and for hours just rape and
1:12:02
pillage. So when I saw it, just like
1:12:05
anything now, like when I saw Charlie Kirk's, you know what
1:12:09
their alleged assassination, I pull back and I go, hold on.
1:12:13
I, I don't know if I can believe my eyes here.
1:12:15
Now, I'm not saying October 7th didn't happen.
1:12:17
We all know that it happened, but how it happened, who
1:12:20
orchestrated it? Who allowed it to happen?
1:12:23
Those are huge questions and they must be asked and people
1:12:26
are so cognitively dissident from it.
1:12:30
They can't tolerate these questions.
1:12:31
Just like what's going on right now with the Candace Owens and
1:12:34
Tucker and people questioning Charlie Kirk's assassination.
1:12:37
When you question what was going on October 7th, again, all the
1:12:40
labels started coming and it's only been a couple years for me
1:12:43
that I did deep dives and that's that's one of the incidents that
1:12:46
kind of triggered me to go what is actually going on with Israel
1:12:51
and this whole Zionism agenda and am IA Zionist is October 7th
1:12:56
because something didn't ring true for me.
1:13:01
So false flags aren't necessarily events that don't
1:13:04
happen. They're events that happen and
1:13:06
they're used to manipulate the masses for a specific purpose,
1:13:10
to shape culture and to further an agenda.
1:13:16
So in this case, they would be to further Israel's agenda,
1:13:18
which my goodness, it did. And I have no idea how much
1:13:21
money since then Israel's gotten from us and from other
1:13:24
countries, but it's it's so it's so much it's hard to fathom.
1:13:28
What a great segue Neil to anti-Semitism.
1:13:33
Wonderful as we now talk about it.
1:13:36
What is anti-Semitism? Well, from what you just heard
1:13:40
there from Neil, who clearly has issues with Israel, I mean it
1:13:45
means Hamas. I'm anti-Semitism.
1:13:48
But from what we learned from it or what we knew about it up
1:13:53
until recently, was it I guess was just anti-Semitism was just,
1:13:57
you know, hate or shade thrown at Jewish people in the same way
1:14:02
I guess racism, racism was thrown at people of color.
1:14:07
But is it truly really. So we're going to find out just
1:14:11
exactly that. Matt, you you seem to know a
1:14:15
thing or two or heard about it. What is anti-Semitism in the
1:14:20
modern day? It's, it's an accurate term,
1:14:23
man. I mean, I've always thought that
1:14:25
because, you know, Semitic that that refers to a, a certain
1:14:31
language group. And, and frankly, you know,
1:14:34
Yiddish was not a Semitic language.
1:14:36
It had some Semitic words in it, but Yiddish was not a something
1:14:41
it was an Indo European language, whereas Arabic,
1:14:45
Aramaic, Hebrew. But you know, nobody in Europe
1:14:48
spoke Hebrew. That was, you know, there were
1:14:51
rabbis that did, but the average Jewish person certainly didn't.
1:14:56
So like to call it for one that always bothered me.
1:14:59
I know that's kind of nitpicking a little bit.
1:15:02
We generally think of anti-Semitic being anti Jewish,
1:15:07
but I think it is true that we've monolithized.
1:15:13
I think I just created a word, but we monolithized this idea,
1:15:18
the Jewish as a nation, which we tend to, you know, like in a
1:15:22
nation, you have a homeland and just that is extremely dangerous
1:15:28
to say because how if you were an English Jew in 1910, you'd be
1:15:32
like, well, what the hell you're saying now you want to make this
1:15:36
homeland for me when my family has lived in England for way
1:15:40
before I can even go back to my lineage.
1:15:43
Are you crazy? I'm English, you know, Jewish
1:15:46
happens to be the what our practice was.
1:15:49
So I think it it, I mean the term, although I have a nitpick
1:15:55
about its inaccuracy. There is definitely this idea,
1:16:00
you know, like the the, you know, for that's gone back since
1:16:04
the Middle Ages. You look at like during the
1:16:05
plague, the ideas that the Jews were poisoning the wells and
1:16:09
that was causing the plague, even though the obvious thing
1:16:12
was that Jews were dying in the exact same numbers as everybody
1:16:15
else, so. Well, it's.
1:16:18
It's truly that the IT is truly there.
1:16:21
I wish we had a a more accurate. Term.
1:16:23
Well here, here's what the accurate term is.
1:16:25
According to Webster and the Wikipedia, who I wholeheartedly
1:16:29
trust, They're saying that the anti-Semitism is hostility,
1:16:33
prejudice towards discrimination against Jews.
1:16:37
The person who harbors it is called anti Semite.
1:16:40
Whether anti-Semitism is considered a form of racism
1:16:42
depends on the school of thought or the political, you know,
1:16:47
pundit of the day. Anti-Semitic tendency to be
1:16:50
motivated by primarily negative sentiment towards Jews as
1:16:54
people. Well, according to Anthony
1:16:57
Greenblatt recently, well, he's now redefined exactly what that
1:17:01
term is. Reality is there are segments of
1:17:04
the far left which have been consumed by this anti Zionist
1:17:07
ideology that we've talked on your show before and I'm pretty
1:17:10
out there saying anti Zionism is anti-Semitism because it is.
1:17:15
I also think the sky is blue, you know, I also think that the
1:17:19
world is not flat. The rabid anti Zionist is just
1:17:22
an anti semi by any other name by the way, even if they come
1:17:25
from our Jewish community, we need to recognize that as well.
1:17:32
Well, there you have it. That's kind of what he's now
1:17:36
redefining. Neil, you want to take a stab at
1:17:38
that? And please be mindful because
1:17:41
because you could be falling on the new definition from Jonathan
1:17:44
Greenblatt of the ADL. Well I I I for some reason my it
1:17:49
says my computer can't show the video.
1:17:51
It's my, it's not supporting MP4 video.
1:17:52
So I'm not sure what the video was, but I can tell you that the
1:17:57
word anti-Semitic has been hijacked just like racism.
1:18:00
What is racism? Nobody can define anymore.
1:18:03
It's just it's an overused word to shut down a conversation and
1:18:07
to take a moral high ground argument and to say I'm winning
1:18:11
this argument because I'm not a racist and you are.
1:18:14
I'm not anti-Semitic and you are.
1:18:16
So then the conversation's over and then it's done.
1:18:18
So if if you really want to have your world rocked about Semitism
1:18:24
or it's really comes from the word Shem Shemite, you should
1:18:28
read the book by Eustace Mullins called The Curse of Canaan, A
1:18:33
Demonology of history. It's not one you're going to
1:18:36
read over a weekend. It's going to take a lot of
1:18:38
thought and it takes time sorting through it.
1:18:40
But wow, he goes through the history of it and to show that
1:18:43
everything that is up is actually down.
1:18:46
The world is upside down. We are in upside down clown
1:18:49
world. Anti Semite is actually the
1:18:52
opposite of what we think it means.
1:18:54
That's a deeper subject. What people think it means is
1:18:56
hatred toward Jews. And I don't see anybody even
1:18:59
even the, you know, the infamous Nick Fuentes, whether you love
1:19:04
him or hate him. I, I've never been a fan, but he
1:19:06
doesn't even fit. He does not fit the definition
1:19:09
of anti Semite. He just doesn't.
1:19:11
If you listen to what he says, he doesn't fit the definition of
1:19:14
what the definition. Really what people think of anti
1:19:16
Semite now is hatred toward Jews and the ones that have been
1:19:21
labeled the top anti semites. I think Candace Owens got like
1:19:23
the number one or #2 super. Semite of the Year.
1:19:26
Miss Rachel. Miss Rachel.
1:19:28
Well, she had a she had a wounded Palestinian kid on her
1:19:31
show, Matt. Now I feel like you're being
1:19:34
anti-Semitic just bringing it up.
1:19:36
How dare. You he is not.
1:19:37
Liking not liking genocide against brown people is
1:19:40
anti-Semitic. Yeah, that's.
1:19:42
Anti-Semitic. What?
1:19:44
What was the guy's name again? You said?
1:19:46
I thought it was Shemp 2/3 Was it Shemp you said?
1:19:50
We have Seth Blank. Yeah, yeah.
1:19:53
That's a. Very interesting.
1:19:55
Oh yeah, and, and, and Eustace Mullins, who also is an anti
1:19:58
Semite, an acclaimed anti Semite.
1:20:01
They all are. Anybody who's written about the
1:20:02
other side of history or you know, any of this stuff, they're
1:20:05
all labeled if you Google them, they're just all anti Semites.
1:20:07
But. He goes through the he goes, he
1:20:10
goes from the beginning, goes into secret societies,
1:20:12
Freemasonry, Shem Canaan, anti-Semitism, how it all
1:20:19
started, why it started. It's very interesting.
1:20:21
I think it's a book that everybody should read.
1:20:23
The The Curse of Canaan, a demonology of history.
1:20:27
Do you think they're losing the Matt?
1:20:29
I'll ask you, do you think that the Zionists are losing the grip
1:20:33
of the narrative? And does does anti-Semitism
1:20:36
charges still even affect anybody's brand anymore?
1:20:39
I also think that they're they're creating a serious
1:20:43
problem of they're actually creating they're creating
1:20:47
Frankenstein's monster. Honestly that this this is just
1:20:51
going to do nothing but push anti-Semitism because people
1:20:55
that may harbor some views also will be like, see, look what
1:20:58
they're doing. And so to, to equate being anti
1:21:04
Israel Israeli with being anti Jew is extremely disastrous for
1:21:09
them in the long term. And that's why I think the good
1:21:13
news is the majority of young Jews, I think now in this
1:21:17
country, or at least at least 40% of the young Jews are not
1:21:20
buying it because you're taking a serious thing that we know the
1:21:26
history of it has been disastrous.
1:21:28
I mean, the the Holocaust obviously in the backgrounds
1:21:31
that happened, the Inquisition where the Sephardis ended up in
1:21:35
North Africa because that was the only place they were safe.
1:21:38
So there is a serious problem with it.
1:21:41
And the worst thing you could do to is like when Biden said the
1:21:45
only safe place where he said something like that, the only
1:21:49
safe place for Jews is in Israel is like, are you fucking kidding
1:21:53
me? What about our citizens?
1:21:57
All of them even, you know, like every Jewish citizen in this
1:22:00
country is an American. Whether I like, whether I like
1:22:05
what the person believes or not, they should be protected like
1:22:09
everybody else. Man, I.
1:22:11
Mean here's where I think it all stems from.
1:22:15
And, and Neil, you could correct me if I'm wrong.
1:22:18
I don't think I am. Well, this is where I think it
1:22:23
all stems from. It's from 1996.
1:22:25
Netanyahu comes in power, OK, and he gives us the following, a
1:22:30
clean break strategy that was the precursor to the project for
1:22:33
the New American Century. Well, what that stated was a
1:22:36
strategy securing A realm for Israel that prepared pretty much
1:22:41
the Richard Pearls of the world that stemmed from, you know, the
1:22:45
neocons that stem from Zionism. And what it gave the Israelis
1:22:50
when Netanyahu, Mr. John J Sullivan came into power was a
1:22:54
new direction for a greater Israeli project and a greater
1:23:00
Israeli all together to take out their neighbors who they deem
1:23:04
hostile and go off the offense pre emptively and not wait on
1:23:08
the defense. And that's what we're seeing
1:23:10
today, in addition to a proxy war with China.
1:23:13
And no doubt about it, but they seem to be losing the plot, if
1:23:18
you know what I'm saying. In fact, this next video that
1:23:21
you're going to see here is the president of the World Jewish
1:23:24
Congress, which by the way, really does exist.
1:23:28
He's now sending a warning to every potential American first
1:23:32
candidate. Yes, MMTG out there, Thomas
1:23:36
Massie, even down to the local level that if you're wishing to
1:23:40
run for U.S. Congress and you don't support
1:23:42
Israel, like many people have said before, if you are a
1:23:48
platform and say anything we deem quote anti-Semitic, we will
1:23:53
target you. It's unbelievable stuff.
1:23:56
Check this out. Any candidate running for a seat
1:23:59
in this building, whether for Congress or Senate, whose
1:24:03
platform includes anti-Semitism, we will target them as they
1:24:10
target us. Accordingly, we will start a
1:24:14
fund to help their opponents. We cannot pass.
1:24:18
We cannot possibly sit by and let anti Zionist determine our
1:24:22
future. None of this will will be easy.
1:24:25
It will take time and effort from all of us.
1:24:28
And Jews cannot fight this fight alone.
1:24:30
Frankly, we shouldn't have to because this is not a Jewish
1:24:34
issue. It's a democratic issue.
1:24:36
It's a moral issue, it's a human issue.
1:24:39
Let us, let us build a coalition so strong, so united, so
1:24:43
determined that no extremist movement can fracture it.
1:24:49
Let's talk about that, Neil. Let me ask you, because we have
1:24:52
Rebel Mama on Rumble saying the following, that which really
1:24:56
coincides with what we just saw. She said the following, that
1:25:00
this, this is a war between the Zionist and the Muslims.
1:25:04
Christians cannot support either side.
1:25:06
Both want us on alive. What are your thoughts on that?
1:25:10
Neil Bishop? Well, I to go back to to Matt's
1:25:14
point about the young people, it's not just young Jews, it's
1:25:20
it's all young people that are waking up to this.
1:25:22
Now, if I could start a campaign, somebody asked me and
1:25:24
said, hey, would you help Bibi Netanyahu start a campaign to
1:25:30
wake young people up about the dangers of Israel and what's
1:25:34
going on over there? I would do exactly what they're
1:25:37
doing right now in this weird, sick and twisted kind of way.
1:25:41
I'd be like, hey, Bibi, what you should do is like call like a 50
1:25:46
American influencers over and have a meeting with them and
1:25:49
tell them, hey, we need to take over TikTok and we need to take
1:25:52
over Instagram. And you know, we need to push
1:25:55
the Israel message that will actually do the opposite of what
1:25:59
BB wants. It will help young people wake
1:26:01
up to this idea. I if I could, if I could advise
1:26:05
him, I would say, why don't you start just going on this
1:26:09
campaign tour saying you had nothing to do with the Charlie
1:26:13
Kirk assassination and Israel had nothing to do with it.
1:26:15
The young people are smart and they're waking up to it.
1:26:18
Or go on a tour saying, you know, This is why we must wipe
1:26:22
out completely wipe out Gaza and take out the Gazan people and
1:26:25
take out the Palestinians that are there.
1:26:27
The young people aren't, they're a different generation.
1:26:30
They don't care if their friend has Jewish or thinks they have
1:26:35
Jewish lineage or Arab or if they're in.
1:26:37
They're all mixed anyway and they're figuring out nobody even
1:26:40
knows. It doesn't matter.
1:26:42
So young people, it's backfiring against them.
1:26:45
It's completely backfiring. The what they're trying to do is
1:26:50
brainwash people and they're continuing to use.
1:26:52
Now they're using TPTPUSA to do it, which I don't know if you
1:26:54
want to get into that or not, but they're using these
1:26:57
organizations now to try to brainwash people.
1:27:00
It's going to backfire big time. If TPUSA goes down this road,
1:27:05
they are going to be gone. They're they're they, they've,
1:27:08
they've gotten a huge amount, I mean hundreds of millions of
1:27:11
dollars just over the last few months.
1:27:13
It's going to, it's going to dip so hard because their message is
1:27:16
going to backfire, especially now that.
1:27:18
Well, here's the message. There are many Europeans on the
1:27:20
right who would like to cut a separate piece of Russia.
1:27:22
No, that would not be good for the United States.
1:27:24
And Russia somehow earns itself a gigantic chunk of Ukraine and
1:27:28
another invasion of Ukraine in the next 5-10 years.
1:27:32
The notion that we ought to be chiding the Europeans on their
1:27:35
democracy, but not trying. We should try to everybody but
1:27:37
chiding the Europeans and not chiding the Russians and
1:27:40
pretending neutrality. I mean, I can see why the
1:27:43
Russians are trying to expand their foothold in Ukraine.
1:27:46
I mean, what, what guarantee could a United States that puts
1:27:51
out that and pretending neutrality?
1:27:54
It's your hypocrisy. Isn't this just about that we
1:27:57
have to really listen to? This is a Zionist policy.
1:28:00
It's a Zionist policy that they want to continue going.
1:28:03
And Matt, I'm not sure the young people or even the Christians
1:28:07
want any part of their Greater Israel project.
1:28:10
Does Ben Shapiro's life, a wife even like him?
1:28:15
Doesn't she hates her? Banging the tennis instructor,
1:28:18
right? Is he really?
1:28:22
Really. Neil, I didn't hear this before.
1:28:25
Wait a minute, are you saying Ben Shapiro is banging his
1:28:28
tennis instructor? Is this?
1:28:30
No, we're breaking news. Breaking news, Matt.
1:28:32
Come on. If his wife had the tennis
1:28:35
instructor, she's banging the tennis instructor.
1:28:40
Matt, you got me so excited. I was willing to change the
1:28:43
entire format of this show. On a, on a, on a, he's the.
1:28:46
Original incel. He's the OG incel man.
1:28:49
What are you talking about? That's Benny boy.
1:28:51
I feel so let down. You're just real quick and I'm
1:28:56
going to get into toilet paper USA.
1:28:58
But regarding regarding what we just heard there, you know, they
1:29:05
really, I think it is Netanyahu and the Zionists that want war
1:29:09
with Russia and they're willing to sacrifice Israel.
1:29:12
One point O we had the the documents, secret documents that
1:29:16
were just discovered recently through a FOIA request that
1:29:20
Netanyahu is an Intel intelligence asset of the US.
1:29:25
They listed it down to three Intel agencies FBICIA or get
1:29:30
this IRS. Can you imagine Netanyahu doing
1:29:33
your taxes? But but nonetheless, if that is
1:29:39
true, that would make sense that he is being so forthright out
1:29:43
there, which I think would wake up people.
1:29:46
Neil or or just to be the devil and and the advocate at the same
1:29:51
time. It is what they call rage
1:29:53
baiting that people like the incredible villain Rabbi
1:29:58
Shmuley, one of the greatest villains since the Penguin, that
1:30:03
that he really inspired. What's that?
1:30:07
He must know He's a villain. Oh, he's the greatest villain.
1:30:11
I mean, he's everywhere these days.
1:30:14
And. So to raise a quick .40% of
1:30:20
Israel's oil comes from Russia. Yeah, and and.
1:30:25
There's a lot of inner breeding going on here.
1:30:28
There we go. There's Rabbi Shmuley.
1:30:32
Oh my. Oh my gosh.
1:30:33
Happy Halloween, everybody. You know he makes sex toys.
1:30:36
He makes sex toys from what I hear.
1:30:38
There you have that one. Do you remember, do you remember
1:30:41
Candace Owens? Like just, I mean, talk about a
1:30:45
roast. I'm insane.
1:30:47
I'm talking about you, Rabbi Shmuley.
1:30:50
You are the synagogue of Satan. You're a fake Jew.
1:30:54
It was, it was quite incredible to.
1:30:55
Watch. I do remember that.
1:30:56
Oh yeah. But but here's my point, Neil,
1:30:59
is we seem to have these people, they're, they're, they're
1:31:03
dictating our foreign policy so much and it they're even
1:31:07
dictating our domestic policy is said by Rabbi Huckabee.
1:31:12
This is another question that is Israel blackmailing the US
1:31:16
government with the Jeffrey Epstein files.
1:31:19
Again, what a ridiculous kind of unfounded, unverified
1:31:24
allegation. It emanates from someone's
1:31:29
imagination. Nobody's provided 1 shred of
1:31:33
evidence to indicate that there's any truth to it.
1:31:37
Reckless allegations, whether it's against an individual, are
1:31:41
a country, are just that. They're reckless and they're
1:31:45
harmful. Just like no one would want to
1:31:47
have people say crazy things about them individually or their
1:31:50
families. People ought to push back when
1:31:54
anyone, whether it's a podcast host or just somebody making a
1:31:58
speech, gets up and says something as unfounded as that.
1:32:04
Somehow Israel was behind Jeffrey Epstein.
1:32:09
How unfounded is that? Oops.
1:32:12
Let's take the building out there.
1:32:14
They're dictating everything and Huckabee is should be tried for
1:32:17
treason as far as I'm concerned. You know, he he's a danger to
1:32:22
our national security and my personal space to be exact, that
1:32:26
they're dictating that, you know what I'm saying?
1:32:29
So let's now talk about let's get into TPUSA.
1:32:35
You know, I, I was spoke to Matt Millen here at great length when
1:32:39
Charlie Kirk was part of that just terrible day there.
1:32:44
And you, you want to share some of that sentiment you shared
1:32:47
with me at that time, Matt, because due to my brain fog
1:32:50
after smooly, it's just so hard these days.
1:32:54
Well, I mean, for one, I certainly did not like a lot of
1:33:00
what Charlie Kirk said. I I didn't appreciate his
1:33:04
rhetorical style quite a bit there.
1:33:05
There's a lot not to like about what he did for me, but the the
1:33:10
dude was like, what, 32 years old?
1:33:13
3131 years old. Yeah, and.
1:33:17
I, I've had, I mean, looking back and you know, when I was
1:33:21
in, for instance, when I was in high school, I had some pretty
1:33:24
abhorrent views about things, something.
1:33:27
Oh, I know. Oh.
1:33:28
I know all of us have a chance to to move on and outgrow and
1:33:32
evolve from those things. And so that's why we should
1:33:35
mourn anybody. Absolutely.
1:33:38
I mean, who gives a cut short like that?
1:33:40
So. Neil, I agree so much.
1:33:44
Americans love a good redemption story.
1:33:48
You know, you, you, you look at, you know, Robert Downey Junior,
1:33:53
a perfect example. You know, just everybody loves a
1:33:56
good. Redemption when you're so.
1:33:57
Young but Harvey Weinstein great.
1:34:01
Thank you, Matt. Harvey Weinstein.
1:34:05
Well, there's that one. But, but you know, Speaking of
1:34:09
redemption, let's now get into this cause Erica Kirk, I'm not
1:34:14
sure is, is she looking for redemption?
1:34:16
Because she sure moved on right away.
1:34:18
I mean, they did a, a rock concert at a stadium for Charlie
1:34:23
Kirk, all kinds of things. And, and she, she loves JD
1:34:27
Vance. We learned.
1:34:28
What are we learning about this woman here?
1:34:30
Walk. Through the door, drop his bags,
1:34:33
Daddy's home, take his phone. Friday night, Shabbat Shalom,
1:34:37
throw it in the drunk drawer. And it was just all us.
1:34:40
And that's what I always wanted to make so special for him was
1:34:43
coming home. I'd I'd always say baby, I don't
1:34:45
care what time you get home, home is here for you.
1:34:48
Your food will never be cold. It might sit out for a little
1:34:50
bit, but I'll reheat it. It's fine.
1:34:52
And I just want to encourage spouses.
1:34:55
Don't get mad, it's so. Daddy's home.
1:35:00
Take the phone. Shabbat Shalom.
1:35:02
I know you're alone. Neil wanted me to make this.
1:35:06
Shabbat Shalom. Shamil Shalamazel.
1:35:08
Something incorporated. Gosh, and I, I didn't even want
1:35:11
to, I didn't want to be this kind of guy.
1:35:14
I didn't want to be this cynical.
1:35:15
You know, I, I'm trying, I know, but I'm trying.
1:35:21
I'm trying to just be a normie, you know, and be like, she's
1:35:23
just a beautiful widow. And you know what's interesting
1:35:28
and all this, what I'll say, I from the very beginning,
1:35:32
literally day one of when this happened, something just didn't
1:35:35
sit right with me. I'm an empath.
1:35:39
I enter into people's emotions. So Dean, you know this as well
1:35:42
as anybody. If you start crying and you get
1:35:44
emotional, I'm going to start crying right there with you.
1:35:47
I don't even know why you're crying.
1:35:48
Half the time you just start crying and I start crying too.
1:35:50
It's just, it's the way I am. Maybe some pigs attacked you.
1:35:54
Who knows what happened, but you start crying, I start crying.
1:35:57
My daughter the the day after this happened, she called me and
1:36:01
she's 22 years old. She goes, dad, something doesn't
1:36:05
seem right. She's like, you know what it is?
1:36:07
It's like I can't enter into her emotion with her.
1:36:10
And I said, you're right. I don't either.
1:36:12
I don't tear up when she talks. I don't enter in.
1:36:15
And then the more I've watched her and the more I've paid
1:36:17
attention, things just feel a little Truman Showy ish to me.
1:36:22
Too perfect. The hair is too perfect.
1:36:25
The, you know, $1000 dresses are too perfect.
1:36:28
The outfits, the grabbing the JD Vance by the head and the
1:36:31
leather pants and all this stuff keeps coming out.
1:36:33
And now, now she's on a tour to tell the podcasters to just stop
1:36:38
it. Just stop.
1:36:40
And she's not bringing up substantive issues.
1:36:43
She's bringing up moral high ground issues like liberals do,
1:36:48
saying you're wrong because it's, you know, we should be
1:36:53
focused on other things. We're building better things.
1:36:55
So you need to stop questioning this.
1:36:57
It's really odd. It's rubbing me the wrong way.
1:36:59
And one of the great things about I, I'm a little bit like
1:37:02
Matt, like I was never, honestly, I was never a Charlie
1:37:05
fan. My wife had met him a few times
1:37:08
at events and stuff and said he and Erica were honestly, she
1:37:11
said this is way before this ever happened.
1:37:13
They were kind of weird together.
1:37:14
There was just a weird vibe with them, but we didn't really know
1:37:17
them, at least not too well. And I wasn't a big fan and sit
1:37:20
around and watch him, but I appreciated clips I saw of him
1:37:23
and I was appreciate his courage talking at, you know, at
1:37:26
university and stuff. But one of the things that he
1:37:27
did was he evolved in his understanding.
1:37:31
He, as he's getting older, he was still young, like Matt said,
1:37:33
but he was willing to change his views and have his viewpoints
1:37:36
challenged. And isn't it interesting that he
1:37:40
was leading up to his death, really even the day before his
1:37:42
death, he was concerned about his safety.
1:37:45
He was questioning the Israel narrative.
1:37:48
And that put him on notice by donors.
1:37:53
Literally, he talked about this. He was getting Flack from donors
1:37:56
and getting money pulled and he was turning down money from
1:37:59
Netanyahu and people were concerned about him.
1:38:02
His donors, the board, the people with NTPUSA were getting
1:38:05
concerned about him. And now the book that Erica, his
1:38:09
wife is promoting is basically a book that was reportedly or
1:38:13
allegedly written by Charlie Kirk right before he died, which
1:38:16
I haven't seen any proof that he ever promoted this book, but
1:38:19
we'll, we'll see if that comes out.
1:38:20
And it's about basically how to be a good Jew, how to keep the
1:38:23
Sabbath. I just think something's
1:38:25
something's rubbed me the wrong way here, Dean.
1:38:28
I don't like it. It's concerning to me.
1:38:30
And now her coming after people that are really trying to delve
1:38:34
deep into questioning the weird oddities about his death.
1:38:41
And now she's telling them to shut up.
1:38:43
And I, and I will say this to Candace's credit, she did not
1:38:47
start a war with Erica Kirk. She's been very kind, very
1:38:50
gracious with Erica. Erica has come out now and
1:38:54
started this. And I'm telling you, Erica's not
1:38:56
ready for the unleashing of Candace Owens as Candace has
1:39:02
been holding back. I don't agree with everything
1:39:04
Candace says. I've seen everything.
1:39:06
But I definitely am on board with her questioning everything
1:39:10
that's going on here, which in a second, when you're ready, I'm
1:39:12
going to bring up an interesting.
1:39:14
OK, Neil's going to drop. He's going to drop something.
1:39:17
This is Erica Kirk talking about how we need to keep quiet in
1:39:22
promoting Charlie's new book called Stop in the Name of a God
1:39:26
and to. Keeping the Sabbath.
1:39:28
Yeah. Stop in the name of God.
1:39:32
And she's saying literally, you guys, it's like, I think Dean, I
1:39:34
sent you a picture of the Truman Show lady that the wife of Jim
1:39:38
Carrey in The Truman Show compared to Erica Kirk.
1:39:40
And she's like holding this book and she's like stop in the name
1:39:43
of God. And so she'll tell.
1:39:45
So what's your message to podcasters?
1:39:47
Erica? Stop it.
1:39:49
Just stop. And then it'd be like.
1:39:51
And what's your book, Eric? Oh, let's stop.
1:39:53
In the name of God. I'm promoting this too.
1:39:55
It's so well heared in favor. And it's all about Shabbat
1:39:58
Shalom, keeping the Sabbath. It's a reality show.
1:40:01
Yes. Here she is in.
1:40:03
Unlike Neil, I I agree with everything Candace says.
1:40:07
I'm just. I'm all in.
1:40:08
I'm all in. Yeah.
1:40:09
Good to see you again today. Talk to me about this part of
1:40:13
the conspiracies that are out there, this disturbing part that
1:40:16
people are trying to guess where Charlie is.
1:40:18
Can I have one thing? No.
1:40:21
Can I have one thing? Can my children have one thing?
1:40:26
Everything was public. We will be building the most
1:40:31
beautiful memorial for my husband at Turning.
1:40:33
Point It may have just said she's looking at the
1:40:34
teleprompter behind Harris Faulkner, who's dressed like one
1:40:38
of the Bee Gees here in this little doohickey here.
1:40:41
USA and it will be for the world to see and it will be
1:40:42
spectacular and it will have basically museum style for our
1:40:47
Charlie from my Charlie. But can I have one thing?
1:40:50
Can my babies have one thing? Where we hold it sacred?
1:40:52
Where my husband is laid to rest?
1:40:53
Where I don't have to be worried about some secular revolutionary
1:40:57
coming and destroying my husband's grave while my
1:40:59
daughter is sitting there praying?
1:41:01
One thing. But this is my husband.
1:41:04
Yes, he was Charlie Kirk to the world.
1:41:05
And I know so many people love my husband and I'm grateful for
1:41:07
that. But this is my husband and I
1:41:10
want to be able to have one thing left that is sacred to our
1:41:13
family, to my in laws, to my babies, and to.
1:41:16
Doesn't she just want one thing? My parents one thing.
1:41:20
What are they taking from you right now?
1:41:22
You see how that was scripted too?
1:41:24
What are they taking from you right now?
1:41:25
Oh. It's all scripted.
1:41:27
But I will tell you what they are doing.
1:41:29
It reminds me so much of chapter 6 in the book of Nehemiah.
1:41:34
OK, you get the point and. Am I one of the secular
1:41:39
revolutionaries? She's talking about you, Matt,
1:41:42
and maybe Neil too. And myself.
1:41:44
I have revolutionaries. No desire to do anything to go
1:41:48
even near a monument like that. And the whole thing that strikes
1:41:53
me is grief. Capitalism, Matt.
1:41:56
It's. Weird and great term.
1:41:58
I, I, I hate to say that too, because, you know, I, one of my
1:42:01
good friends, Steven Sotloff, was beheaded by ISIS in 2014.
1:42:07
And, you know, a lot of the stuff that came out really hurt
1:42:11
the family. So I I have some sympathy for
1:42:14
her, but it just seems she hit the ground running man, doesn't
1:42:19
it? Yeah, it does.
1:42:21
Matt, I want to say this too. I'm going to say if if we can
1:42:27
believe our eyes, and I know that sounds really weird and
1:42:29
conspiratorial, but I'm going to say it if we can believe our
1:42:33
eyes, if what we saw with Charlie Kirk were true, if he
1:42:38
did get shot in the neck that day and if he is dead.
1:42:41
That's the most, I think, as far as we know, the most publicized
1:42:46
assassination or murder in the history of the world.
1:42:50
And, and, and it wasn't just that it wasn't like that
1:42:53
happened. And then Erica came along and
1:42:55
said, which I I would have respected if she came along and
1:42:57
said, I need privacy. I want the funeral to be
1:43:00
private. I want it all fine.
1:43:02
But she it was the opposite of that.
1:43:04
It was the weird scene of bending over his coffin and
1:43:10
kissing his hands and whispering to him.
1:43:14
I I was freaked out when I saw it.
1:43:15
I'm like, that can't be real. Absolutely, man.
1:43:17
It was the show must go on type of thing.
1:43:19
Yeah, and and so it that the the, that's freaked me out.
1:43:23
And so I, I just think I agree with Candace, who said you can't
1:43:26
have the best of both worlds. It's either public or it's not
1:43:30
public. And this is so public by her
1:43:33
choice, it's not even funny. It's actually nauseating how
1:43:36
public all this was. And so she can't then turn
1:43:39
around and say, well, no, we're not going to tell anybody where
1:43:42
Charlie's buried. I mean that if you want to start
1:43:44
a conspiracy theory movement, then do what you're doing.
1:43:47
Exactly what they're doing. And I should actually.
1:43:50
First, let's read the top comment from last episode.
1:43:54
This person wrote, Issa Rae wrote, wrote Erica Kirk will
1:43:57
forgive someone one week later for murdering her husband, but
1:44:00
she won't forgive someone for not believing the FBI narrative.
1:44:03
I saw a lot of commenting that online, that the energy
1:44:07
definitely feels different for people that want to get to the
1:44:13
truth than it does for the person who she believes killed
1:44:17
her husband. And I don't believe that that is
1:44:18
the person who pulled the trucker.
1:44:19
I just, I just don't. And you're allowed to disagree
1:44:21
with Erica. You are, and that's fine.
1:44:23
She's allowed to think what she thinks, and you're allowed to
1:44:25
think what you think. That's what I want you guys to.
1:44:28
Know can I say something real quick Dean about that before I
1:44:32
the the thing that really got me what was it a few days after I
1:44:36
don't know what it was less than a week.
1:44:38
I can't, the timelines are all screwed up now when they had the
1:44:40
huge, what was supposed to be a memorial, but it's more like a,
1:44:43
a, you know, a kind of a big ball where thousands of people
1:44:48
came and, and, and everybody, you know, got their cell phones
1:44:52
hacked and all that stuff. When she said the words, when
1:44:56
she looked and what seemed I, I'm just going to say what I
1:44:58
saw. I saw a staged event and I saw
1:45:01
her say the words. I forgive him in that dramatic
1:45:04
way. I said right there on the spot,
1:45:08
that's fake. It just, it just, it just was
1:45:10
fake. And, and I, I, I'm, I'm sorry if
1:45:13
it's true, if, if it's all authentic, which I'm 99% sure
1:45:17
it's not, but if, if there's that 1% chance it is, I
1:45:19
apologize for saying that, but that was, that was fake.
1:45:23
And, but now she's in a hard position because she can't, she
1:45:26
has to forgive everybody now for if you, if you forgive someone
1:45:29
that quickly, if you have that in your heart, which as a
1:45:32
Christian, that is not even, you know, it's not, it's not the
1:45:35
right way to do things, in my opinion.
1:45:37
I could go on on about that. But now you have to forgive
1:45:39
everybody for everything that they do to you instantly because
1:45:42
nothing could ever compare to doing something that horrendous
1:45:45
to someone as to assassinating their husband in cold blood like
1:45:49
that. And so now that the person you
1:45:50
know, you got a point, like why are you so mad and unforgiving
1:45:54
to people who are trying to seek out and find the truth of what
1:45:57
happened to your husband? It's very ass backwards.
1:46:01
It smells wrong. And I trust my gut more than I
1:46:04
trust the government and more than I trust the media.
1:46:07
And my gut's telling me this is way off.
1:46:09
But also to say secular revolutionaries to turn this
1:46:14
into a culture war. Right.
1:46:16
I mean that that is that is completely taken advantage of
1:46:20
the situation. No matter I mean, you know,
1:46:24
dignified silence can go a long way sometimes, man.
1:46:27
And and I mean she has every right to go to defend like a
1:46:32
like crazy attacks and all that, but suddenly turn this into a
1:46:37
culture war which it appears she has been doing or is part.
1:46:40
Of Well, here it is too. Here it is too.
1:46:41
Man is now Tyler Robertson, the incredible Patsy.
1:46:45
Well, guess what, he's a Mormon. The biggest the the Mormon
1:46:48
religion are the biggest Zionist promoters and facilitators on
1:46:52
you know that we've never known about his family's LDS.
1:46:56
The governor turned down the rhetoric when Tyler turned
1:46:58
himself in. So there here it is.
1:47:00
He continued his education at BYU of the man accused of the
1:47:04
September 25th fatal shooting raised conservative Christian.
1:47:08
So there he is a Mormon. OK, Neil, what is the big truth
1:47:14
bomb here? Because, you know, Ben Shapiro's
1:47:17
not going to like it. And these people, even Pastor
1:47:21
Greg Locke, who we're going to address here before we go,
1:47:23
doesn't like it either. They demonize Candace.
1:47:26
He called her the modern era of Hitler wannabe, which, oh,
1:47:30
you've. Got to be kidding me.
1:47:32
You know, that's just incredible.
1:47:34
That's not disappoint. Well.
1:47:38
What is the truth bomb, if you will?
1:47:41
Neil Bishop. I don't want to call it a truth
1:47:43
bomb. It's just something really
1:47:45
interesting. And maybe we could do a live
1:47:47
exercise. OK, If we do a live exercise and
1:47:50
you guys get on your phones, you type in the Google.
1:47:54
If you were to type in, let's say Claude CLAUDECLAUDE and
1:48:02
Erica Kirk, just type in Claude and Erica.
1:48:06
Kirk, you're doing that right now, CLUDE.
1:48:09
Claude, Yeah. And Erica Kirk.
1:48:14
Claude and Erica Kirk. I I, I mean, I Claude and Erica
1:48:19
Kirk were a notable political couple in Florida.
1:48:22
Claude Kirk, interestingly, you know, he's got, he's got the CK
1:48:25
initials, the exact name for Erica Kirk.
1:48:28
He was the state's first Republican, blah, blah, blah.
1:48:31
Erica Kirk served as first lady. If you go down, it's like we're
1:48:35
making AI glitch. It says tragedy and forgiveness.
1:48:39
Claude Kirk was assassinated in 1991, and Erica's public
1:48:45
declaration of forgiving his murderer became a widely
1:48:48
discussed example of grace. It's very odd.
1:48:51
They have a good script I guess. It's really, yeah.
1:48:54
I mean, it's it, it's something's glitching in the AI
1:48:58
world. I'm not sure what's happening,
1:49:00
but I don't know where this path will lead.
1:49:03
But maybe one of your viewers will go down this rabbit hole
1:49:07
and figure out who Erica Kirk was in 1967.
1:49:12
Who was married to this Claude Kirk.
1:49:13
Now, she was apparently or reportedly born in Germany.
1:49:17
She was she She doesn't. It's hard to find her history.
1:49:22
People were surprised the time that this much older fella than
1:49:26
her was marrying her. What's striking to you guys?
1:49:30
I did a little bit of a just kind of like, let me just take a
1:49:33
look at her picture. I think you had that pulled up
1:49:35
there, Dean and I put in my my assistant.
1:49:39
I had my assistant online check to see if like with both photos
1:49:43
of the current Erica and this Erica from 1967.
1:49:47
And I basically asked my assistant, you know, could these
1:49:50
people like be the same person? And this is AI mean.
1:49:54
I I'm not like a huge conspiracy guy with this kind of stuff
1:49:57
like, but this is weird, it said.
1:50:00
If we pretend that both photos were taken in the same era, it
1:50:03
gives me a clean, detailed facial feature comparison.
1:50:06
And overall, it says with the chin, the ears, the smile, the
1:50:12
lip shape, the bridge of the nose, the brows, the eyelids,
1:50:15
the size and shape, the cheekbones, all that stuff.
1:50:18
It says the facial proportions are consistent enough that it
1:50:21
would be entirely plausible that they're the same person.
1:50:26
The biggest difference, you know, was the hair of the
1:50:27
clothing, the makeup, the photography and all that kind of
1:50:29
stuff. Bottom line, their facial
1:50:30
features are highly compatible. If you told someone these two
1:50:33
were, these were two photos of the same woman taking around the
1:50:35
same decade, it wouldn't seem far fetched at all.
1:50:38
It's just an odd thing. And I, I can't, I don't have any
1:50:43
conclusion. I don't know where to take it.
1:50:45
I'll, I'll pull, I'll pull a Candace.
1:50:47
I'm just asking questions, you know, and I'm not even really
1:50:50
asking a question. I think it's something that
1:50:52
someone should research and see if there's any connection with
1:50:54
that Erica Kirk And this current Erica Kirk 'cause I'll tell you
1:50:57
why it's important. I think is because she, she sort
1:51:00
of who knew about Erica Kirk before, you know, a few months
1:51:04
ago, very, very, very few people.
1:51:06
If you knew anything, you know, Charlie married her number of
1:51:08
years ago and you knew that he had a wife.
1:51:09
Whatever. All of a sudden she, she, I
1:51:14
mean, I don't even have to surmise about this.
1:51:16
She wants the public eye. She wants to be in the
1:51:19
limelight. She's come out of nowhere and
1:51:22
then when you research her background, she's a minor as a
1:51:27
minor. She was starting an orphanage in
1:51:31
Romania and that orphanage in Romania, again, this is
1:51:36
reportedly or allegedly wanted this this this organization to
1:51:43
leave because they were accusing them of trafficking children.
1:51:46
Now, I I don't know if any of that's true.
1:51:48
I'm just saying this is like all out there.
1:51:50
And then she was the music artist and she was in music
1:51:54
videos and she was Miss Arizona and she was, you know, bought by
1:51:59
Trump into that whole club. And it just goes on and on with
1:52:04
this person. And, and I don't understand it,
1:52:07
but there's there's, there's some sort of connection.
1:52:09
I can feel it with this Eric Kirk from whatever it was 60
1:52:13
years ago. Whatever.
1:52:14
It is. She's miss Arizona, too.
1:52:15
Miss Arizona? Weird.
1:52:17
Let's not forget that. And they met in Israel and they
1:52:20
met in Israel. I mean she.
1:52:23
Kind of. She reminds me of like she was
1:52:26
made at the factory for every Fox News pundit.
1:52:30
Oh, yes, yes. Now in the the old clone factory
1:52:35
just pushing. Another clone factory and two
1:52:38
nil I feel. I do feel a little like I'm
1:52:44
stepping over the line just feeling that way.
1:52:47
And I'm feeling a little guilty, but but I also feel guilty
1:52:51
because, you know, I didn't like Charlie Kirk at all and I'm not
1:52:55
going to lionize him. But I can still feel bad.
1:52:57
You know, the the thing for me that really struck me, I think I
1:53:01
told you, Dean, is that when I was in Libya and when the
1:53:04
assassination started happening, and then after the revolution
1:53:09
and when everything started falling apart in front of us.
1:53:13
And I got the same feeling when when I saw the the maelstrom
1:53:17
that the vacuum open up and suck everything in.
1:53:21
And yeah, it just, it gives me a little PTSD actually in in some
1:53:27
ways. It's very weird, Neil, if you
1:53:30
could maybe repeat that for for Matt and maybe the viewers
1:53:35
regarding Charlie Kirk's birthday.
1:53:37
I it was oddly enough similar. It's not dead on with.
1:53:42
Was it George Floyd? George.
1:53:44
Floyd, they have the same birthday and you know, you have
1:53:48
one movement on the the weird left satanic realm that George
1:53:53
Floyd started with all the the riots and the activism and the
1:53:57
disgusting stuff people were doing.
1:53:59
Then you kind of have the rights, the rights movement, the
1:54:02
rights, you know, it's sort of like this inversion of a
1:54:05
movement, you know, that is contrasted to that one, but it's
1:54:09
still it just an unbelievably huge movement with Charlie Kirk.
1:54:12
And they happen to have the same birth date.
1:54:15
And you and I have talked about this Dean, George Floyd is not
1:54:19
who he was purported to be. And a lot of these characters
1:54:24
aren't. And now and now I mean, we're
1:54:28
talking about Erica's talking about her family.
1:54:30
George Floyd's family was were Freemasons and and there's all
1:54:33
kinds of stuff there. But Erica Kirk now brought up
1:54:37
don't mess with my family, meaning her TPUSA family that's
1:54:41
getting exposed to. I just unfortunately, and I'm
1:54:43
I'm saying this as a Christian because I feel the same guilt at
1:54:46
times that that Matt was talking about when I'm like, I don't
1:54:49
want to be picking on a widow. And if this is were to be, if
1:54:52
there's that 1% chance this is all authentic, then I publicly
1:54:56
apologize right now for all of that.
1:54:57
But I'm just saying that the the that TPUSA, and I'm coming at
1:55:02
this as a Christian, I wish TPSTPUSA were authentic and I
1:55:06
wish it were real. But you're talking about the
1:55:09
Andrews and the Tyler's there. And these people are not who I
1:55:13
don't believe at this time that they are who we thought they
1:55:15
were. Due to time constraints, OK,
1:55:19
everybody we have, I have a final question for everybody,
1:55:22
but we have a lot of people who are just pouring in here all
1:55:26
over the place as this is a highly censored episode here
1:55:29
tonight all over the interwebs, more more so than usual.
1:55:35
We have Rebel Mama who's asking time traveller.
1:55:38
Good question, Neil. Was there a flex capacitor do
1:55:41
you think involved in this whole ordeal with Erica Kirk, we
1:55:44
should ask, We're wondering. Yeah, and we can also true.
1:55:49
Yeah, go ahead. And by the way, it's what makes
1:55:52
time travel, you know, just in case you forgot.
1:55:54
Also, we have people saying David Nader said, is she
1:55:58
reptilian? Could very well be so.
1:56:02
And a very stunning and very attractive one, some might say.
1:56:07
Here we have some. Marnie asked and says she can't
1:56:11
find any pictures of Erica pregnant anywhere.
1:56:14
None whatsoever. She can't find one thing ever.
1:56:17
We have Seth Black who's saying George Floyd was a rubber
1:56:20
training doll. Yes, he was.
1:56:21
He was a mannequin as we proved it as F, who just happened to
1:56:25
have a twin brother who accepted all the millions of dollars of
1:56:27
donations the day of. And let us not forget how he was
1:56:30
all over the Obama Twitter and Hillary Twitter before the event
1:56:34
even happened. They're using him as an icon.
1:56:36
Another CIA theatric we have John Bisque Leone who said
1:56:42
Claude and Erica's baby was tapped with an ugly stick.
1:56:46
Yikes. I didn't catch that one.
1:56:49
And here is interesting. Trump sponsored the USA Miss
1:56:55
America pageant that she was in. OK, well, that leads a great
1:56:58
segue to our final segment here of the Trump factor as well.
1:57:04
We close this incredible, riveting, epic episode here for
1:57:08
the season finale of The Lounge. Well, one question remains
1:57:13
unanswered. Or is it?
1:57:15
And that's the Trump factor in this whole ordeal.
1:57:18
Well, Trump, you know, rallied his campaigns over the years
1:57:22
even before he took office in 2017 as a non interventionist.
1:57:28
That's right. Many libertarians, even
1:57:30
including myself, thought, well, yes, for once somebody's tapping
1:57:34
into the Ron Paul playbook of American and American made
1:57:39
Americans first, America first for that fact, and we're tired
1:57:43
of these stinking wars. What are they good for?
1:57:46
Absolutely nothing until, well, until BB came into the play.
1:57:52
Netanyahu and the rest of the Zionists?
1:57:55
Or is he playing a close game of charades in high stakes poker?
1:58:00
Is he going to turn on the Zionists in the end as they've
1:58:04
saved Israel for last for that fact?
1:58:07
Well, let's start with you, Matthew Millen, as we close the
1:58:13
night here, kind of the first final I.
1:58:15
Want to say about Bush, WW campaigned on non
1:58:20
interventionism as well. So that's, you know, they still
1:58:26
are, you know, figureheads of an expansionist empire, which I I
1:58:31
hope you realize that's what we are, man.
1:58:33
And you know, these and in in a, in a state of forever wars and,
1:58:42
you know, in so many ways, I, I mean, I was completely
1:58:47
unsurprised that Trump would have.
1:58:49
I mean, Trump's going to go. I mean, I, I know I've had
1:58:55
experience recently with the extreme narcissist and you can
1:59:00
see a lot of the, the same, you know, the characteristics of
1:59:03
them and they're kind of like sharks and they're not that
1:59:08
capable of planning in, in a sense that everything's kind of
1:59:13
based on a predatory instantaneous thing.
1:59:16
It's actually an easy algorithm to understand if you know
1:59:19
narcissism. And I'm I'm sure you guys have
1:59:22
probably come across narcissists as well.
1:59:25
So I think he can be easily led by those around him.
1:59:29
And we still have the stench of some neo cons that followed him
1:59:33
into office, which I was completely unsurprised about.
1:59:36
So I am, yeah, I'm not surprised.
1:59:38
I actually expected this. So.
1:59:42
Can he turn it around, Matt, before we go to Neil, can Trump
1:59:46
turn it around? Or is he all in and we're just
1:59:50
witnessing the the fall of Babylon and the US survey as we
1:59:53
know it? He's not going to turn it
1:59:54
around. I mean, they just no, I, I, he's
1:59:59
not capable of that. And the people around him, not
2:00:03
just the clowns, but no, they're not they're not capable of
2:00:06
turning it around. They're and remember, this is a.
2:00:11
I mean, I hate to say that, you know, this is an ailing, dying
2:00:15
empire and we're seeing it in real time.
2:00:18
It's just accelerating quicker than a lot of us ever expected.
2:00:22
So and I but I don't think there's any way, I don't think
2:00:27
it's any way that anybody could turn it around.
2:00:29
What's going to happen to the United States so.
2:00:33
Interesting. OK, Neil, turn around every now
2:00:37
and again. Is Trump going to be able to do
2:00:40
it in which Trump, well, maybe this Trump with the Austin
2:00:43
Powers teeth or maybe this Trump with the incredible veneers all
2:00:47
of a sudden. Or maybe Bill Cartwright, Trump
2:00:50
from Bonanza might be able to do it with a little nub as a thumb.
2:00:55
Or maybe the truly Trump after a Big Mac as he now approves as
2:01:01
another 650 million to Israel. Congress approved it.
2:01:05
To the wrong grill there. Trump has now approved around
2:01:09
$20 billion to Israel in under a year.
2:01:11
This is on top of the four billion they already get for
2:01:14
their allowance. So I guess now I have the, the,
2:01:18
the, the responsibility to ask you, Neil, the Trump factor.
2:01:23
Will Donald Trump be able to turn it around?
2:01:27
Neil Bishop. I, I still think that there's,
2:01:34
yeah, I've told you before, there's two Trump's good Trump.
2:01:38
Bad Trump goes back to dream. I had, if I, I think the good
2:01:44
Trump could, but I don't know where he is.
2:01:47
He's missing. I don't know if he's abducted,
2:01:50
taken out. I, I don't know what happened to
2:01:52
good Trump, cause bad Trump seems weird.
2:01:54
I'm taking this at face value too.
2:01:57
I'm not playing the Q game that everything's, you know,
2:02:02
6,000,000 D chess or whatever it is.
2:02:05
I'm just taking to face value. If I take it to face value,
2:02:09
we're heading down a very, very scary path.
2:02:13
But I say that and I also want to like do an exclaimer.
2:02:18
I think it has to happen. It's inevitable Empires fall and
2:02:23
I don't want to suffer. I don't want it to fall.
2:02:25
I'm just saying it's inevitable for it to fall.
2:02:27
And I think we've reached an apex in history, in the history
2:02:30
of this country. I.
2:02:32
Agree. It's it's coming down and
2:02:35
there's so much evil, there's so much deception.
2:02:39
It's inevitable. It has to fall and it's going to
2:02:41
be hard because people don't understand when there's a
2:02:43
revolution, when people truly wake up and let's say we, we
2:02:47
actually do what the founding fathers told us to do with a
2:02:50
tyrannical government. We were to do that.
2:02:53
It's great. But everything stops during
2:02:55
revolution. Shipping stops, economy stops,
2:02:58
you know, money stops flowing, goods and services stop.
2:03:02
And so people have to either pull up their bootstraps and
2:03:06
figure it out. And, and so there's a, there's a
2:03:09
price to pay. What I'm saying, So everybody
2:03:12
now wants, they want a revolution, but they don't want
2:03:14
to lose all their entertainment and all their Amazon and Walmart
2:03:17
too. And you can't have both.
2:03:19
So I feel it coming down. I think we're reaching the end
2:03:22
of an age if we really want to get deep and philosophical.
2:03:26
I think the end of an age is coming and I, I want to be on
2:03:29
the right side and, and I want to encourage people to, I mean
2:03:34
get right with God and be emotionally prepared.
2:03:38
I think 90% of it is emotional, mental, and then there's the 10%
2:03:42
physical preparedness for who knows what could happen in the
2:03:44
future. God's about to bring the whole
2:03:47
house down ladies and gentlemen. These bunch of sex trafficking
2:03:51
mongrels are about to be exposed.
2:03:54
These bunch of pedophiles in Hollywood are going to be
2:03:57
exposed for who they are. I don't care what you think
2:04:01
about fraudulent Sleepy Joe. He's a sex trafficking, demon
2:04:05
possessed mongrel. He's on the left.
2:04:08
He ain't no better than the Pope and Oprah Winfrey and Tom Hanks
2:04:12
and the rest of that wicked crowd.
2:04:14
God is going to bring the whole house down.
2:04:17
I said he's going to bring the whole house down.
2:04:21
What incarnation? What incarnation?
2:04:24
What in tarnation? I I don't know what happened
2:04:27
there, Neil, that I do apologize.
2:04:30
A lot of action. Is happening here tonight
2:04:33
everybody that will bring. What tarnation you just got
2:04:40
locked you got? What Sam Hill?
2:04:42
What in Sam Hill? Here.
2:04:47
Final thoughts brought you by Gibson Go.
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All you have to do is give a little to get a lot, make these
2:05:02
broadcasts epic, spectacular, because what incarnation are we
2:05:08
going to do without them? Final thoughts here.
2:05:12
Well, Neil Bishop and Matthew Milan are hard acts to follow,
2:05:17
but I'm going to do my best because Greg Locke is even a
2:05:21
harder act to follow. Well, as we finished the Zionist
2:05:25
versus the West season finale here, I certainly learned a lot.
2:05:30
I learned just a heck of a lot that when people want to get
2:05:35
right with God, as you heard others say, what doesn't
2:05:39
necessarily mean getting right with pastors like Greg Locke,
2:05:47
getting right with, you know, the Yosemite Sam's of the
2:05:50
pulpit. But it means getting right with
2:05:55
your brotherly man and fellow man and, and sisters and, and
2:06:00
loved ones and a higher being if that's what's important to you.
2:06:04
Because the lower beings, which are simply the hierarchies of
2:06:08
society currently, are trying to dictate the future by erasing
2:06:13
the past. And we can't let them do that
2:06:16
because this go around, we can't let the Victorians write
2:06:20
history. And when a a very, very archaic
2:06:26
fascist government takes over society, well, like JFK said, we
2:06:30
have a right and duty to read that from our livelihoods and
2:06:36
our society and our country for that fact.
2:06:38
And to quote John Lennon, say you want a revolution, we can
2:06:44
count me out, in, out, in, but just whatever.
2:06:51
You don't start the revolution without me.
2:06:53
And that's my final thought. I want to thank Matt Millen and
2:06:58
his incredible inputs here tonight and as well as Neil
2:07:02
Bishop, who you can catch. Neil, what is it?
2:07:05
Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I don't even know anymore.
2:07:10
You can. Catch me here.
2:07:12
Catch me here. Yeah.
2:07:13
Catch me and happy. Catch me on Facebook.
2:07:15
Just my name, Neil Bishop. Catch me on Facebook.
2:07:17
You can also catch him on christianmingle.com.
2:07:20
I believe he's there and you can see me.
2:07:22
Don't spell my wife. Don't tell my wife.
2:07:24
And farmers only. Yeah, you catch Matt Millen on,
2:07:28
he's going to be on the, well, catch both of these guys on our
2:07:30
Year in Review coming up here for Real Deal Media.
2:07:33
Matt did an incredible piece on the 1995 incredible year with
2:07:38
The Smashing Pumpkins and everything.
2:07:40
So we're going to knock out another critical musical piece
2:07:43
before the year ends. So anyways, so for Matthew
2:07:48
Millen and for Neil Bishop, I'm Dean Ryan saying thank you,
2:07:51
everybody out there around the world for sharing a bit of this
2:07:53
shadow band night with us. Until next time, always remember
2:07:58
to stay tuned and stay awake and I'll see everybody soon.
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Goodnight. Music.
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None.