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The Rita Panahi Show | 24 August · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: Thanks.
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Speaker 2: Starting right now, it's at Panay Show.
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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the reader. Panny Show.
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Speaker 4: Coming up tonight, one nation's immigration policy under renewed scrutiny
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Speaker 4: after David Farley contradicts leader Pauline Hansen. Daniel Wild will
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Speaker 4: join me to discuss the day's top headlines. Cept Costello
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Speaker 4: will be here to unpack the latest on the Sydney
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Speaker 4: Swan scandal following their win over the weekend.
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Speaker 3: MI Horowitz will have the latest from the US.
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Speaker 4: Including hundreds of women showing their support for confessed triple
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Speaker 4: killer Lindsey Clancy and Hollywood style Marc Gruffalo blast paramount
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Speaker 4: claiming the media giant is complicit in genocide. Kinsey Schofiel
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Speaker 4: will have all your royal and entertainment news and Left
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Speaker 4: He's Losing It features WNBA bigots attacking in his Canta Freedom,
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Speaker 4: who's identifying as a woman sometimes and has dominated for
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Speaker 4: the WNBA draft, Chicago.
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Speaker 5: Stand in It, Natasha Clown and Rightful four the Break.
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Speaker 5: This was the scene inside Win Trust Arena.
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Speaker 3: But First Federal Court Judge in Jackman has questioned the
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Speaker 3: High Court's long standing dogmatism on freedom of speech to
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Speaker 3: tackle anti Semitism. In address at the Samuel Griffith Society
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Speaker 3: National Conference on Sunday, he argued the High Court needs
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Speaker 3: to reconsider how anti Semites are abusing past rulings on
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Speaker 3: political communication to spread hate against Australian Jews. He said, the.
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Speaker 4: Reality is that Australia now is a severely fractured and
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Speaker 4: divided society. In particular, the virus of anti Semitism is rife,
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Speaker 4: and much about social and political culture seems to have
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Speaker 4: a suppressed immunity to its virulence. Justice Jackman pointed to
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Speaker 4: the pro Palestine encampment at the University of Sydney as
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Speaker 4: an exam of how free speech was used to publicly
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Speaker 4: intimidate Jews. He said, even more unthinkable is that the
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Speaker 4: university's officials turned a blind eye and a deaf ear
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Speaker 4: to what was going on. Joining me now, as Deputy
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Speaker 4: executive director at the Institute of Public Affairs, Daniel Wild
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Speaker 4: dan the reaction of Vice chancellors of university officials was
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Speaker 4: a political and ideological decision that had nothing to do
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Speaker 4: with free speech.
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Speaker 3: If a far right.
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Speaker 4: Group set up a similar encampment on campus and be
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Speaker 4: condemned and gone within the hour, I'm quite concerned that
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Speaker 4: free speech is being used as an excuse for some
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Speaker 4: of the actions we have seen in the last two
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Speaker 4: or three years.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there's a couple of things here in
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Speaker 6: you're right to say, well, to point to the double standards,
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Speaker 6: which is really one of the key issues we've seen
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Speaker 6: through this whole period.
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Speaker 7: University is are one example.
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Speaker 6: We also have seen it in the failure of police,
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Speaker 6: particularly in New South Wales and Victoria, to actually enforce
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Speaker 6: the law. I mean, there's plenty of laws that stop
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Speaker 6: people intimidating and harassing other people and inciting violence, and
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Speaker 6: quite rightly those laws should be enforced and enforced in
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Speaker 6: a fair manner. On the broader topic of freedom of speech,
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Speaker 6: the issue here is that calling for limitations on freedom
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Speaker 6: of speech will not only not stop antisemitism and other
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Speaker 6: forms of socially divisive behavior, but will actually result in
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Speaker 6: the very groups calling for them being targeted themselves, i e.
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Speaker 7: Jewish groups. This is what's happened for decades now.
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Speaker 6: And all you have to do is look at section
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Speaker 6: eighteen C of the Racial Discrimination Act and ask yourself
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Speaker 6: who has this been weaponized against? Has this been used
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Speaker 6: against any of those groups that have been engaging in
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Speaker 6: anti semitism. Now, it's been used against Pauline Hansen, it's
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Speaker 6: been used against your colleague Andrew Bolt, it's been used
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Speaker 6: against the late Great Bill Leak. Again, this is an
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Speaker 6: example of a law that has been weaponized for political purposes.
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Speaker 6: So unfortunately, this hatred we have in our society cannot
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Speaker 6: be legislated away by FIAT. From Camber, there is something
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Speaker 6: very deep running through our society, and having more anti
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Speaker 6: free speech laws or so called anti hate speech laws,
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Speaker 6: it's not going to solve the problem.
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Speaker 4: It's not, but it seems to be the only solution
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Speaker 4: we're getting from our leaders. And now to have Justice
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Speaker 4: Jackman also questioning the fundamental human right of free speech
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Speaker 4: instead of pointing to the weak leaders, the leftist ideologues
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Speaker 4: who are refusing to tackle anti semitism. And as you explained,
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Speaker 4: there are existing laws that could be used to tackle this,
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Speaker 4: particularly when threats are made and people are being openly intimidated.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. Look, I think what Justice Jackman's getting at.
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Speaker 6: And I didn't see his whole speech or hear it,
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Speaker 6: but I think he's talking about the implied writer of
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Speaker 6: po communication, which is important but somewhat abstruse constitutional matter.
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Speaker 6: I think when it gets to the brass knuckles of
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Speaker 6: what people can and can't do in their day to
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Speaker 6: day life, you're quite right to point out it's the
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Speaker 6: weakness of political leaders also the two tier justice system
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Speaker 6: that I point to. I'll also point you to comments
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Speaker 6: by New South Wales Premier Chris Mins who made this
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Speaker 6: probably a year ago or six months ago, where he
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Speaker 6: basically said multiculturalism and freedom of speech are incompatible in
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Speaker 6: order to protect the interests and the sensitivities of different
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Speaker 6: migrant groups, and we can't actually have freedom of speech,
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Speaker 6: we can't have an open debate. And I thought that
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Speaker 6: comment was very revealing and actually very honest. I don't
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Speaker 6: know if Chris Mins knew exactly what he was saying
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Speaker 6: when he said it, but this is clearly of view.
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Speaker 6: You can't have multiculturalism and freedom of speech and this
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Speaker 6: is one of the defining issues of our time.
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Speaker 4: Now One Nation leader Pauline Hanson has been forced to
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Speaker 4: correct her own MP David Farley, who told the ABC
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Speaker 4: that immigration rates under One Nation wouldn't be too different
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Speaker 4: to Labor and the Coalition are proposing. Here is what
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Speaker 4: David Farley said on Insiders, it.
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Speaker 8: Doesn't sound like effectively if you're talking about a number
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Speaker 8: of two hundred and twenty or thirty or forty thousand,
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Speaker 8: is it that different to the government's objective here. I
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Speaker 8: know they're not there, yes, but they want to get
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Speaker 8: it down to two twenty five.
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Speaker 9: I think the big difference is we're focusing on what
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Speaker 9: are the skills we need as a nation? Where do
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Speaker 9: we need these migrants to be?
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Speaker 8: But the raw number, the raw number is not too different.
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Speaker 9: Well, the raw number is not too different. But the
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Speaker 9: reality is where do we need them. We don't need
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Speaker 9: them in the great urban metroplex. We need them out
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Speaker 9: to be productive, working in agriculture, engineering, mining, etc.
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Speaker 4: Oh dear now, Pauline Hanson wrote on social media a
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Speaker 4: few hours later. The One Nation's policy was to cut
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Speaker 4: net overseas migration to one hundred and thirty thousand. Dan,
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Speaker 4: this is damaging to One Nation and not the first
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Speaker 4: time that David Farley has contradicted the party leader.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is becoming a bit of an issue for
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Speaker 6: One Nation, isn't it. With David Farley, the first elected
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Speaker 6: into the Lower House for One Nation on his own
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Speaker 6: bat is cutting across, as you say, some policies there. Now,
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Speaker 6: what's interesting is in that tweet Paul Enhanson says one
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Speaker 6: hundred and thirty net overseas migration. You go to their website,
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Speaker 6: it's got different information on there about visas issued and
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Speaker 6: so forth. Now you can have more than one policy
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Speaker 6: and more than one number, but I think it actually
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Speaker 6: started as one hundred and thirty thousand gross intake and
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Speaker 6: now they've changed it.
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Speaker 7: I actually don't know what the policy is anymore.
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Speaker 6: And this is a really big issue for them, quite obviously,
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Speaker 6: because immigration is the number one issue that is attracting
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Speaker 6: Australians to vote for one nation. So for their own sake,
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Speaker 6: they need to sort it out. They need to put
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Speaker 6: a number out there, they need to stick to that number.
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Speaker 6: The other thing I'll point you to reader as well,
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Speaker 6: it's something that we need to bring into the Australian
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Speaker 6: debate is the experience of Canada. Now, I know you
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Speaker 6: know about this, but Canada actually dramatically cut immigration to
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Speaker 6: the point where it had negative population growth over several
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Speaker 6: months last year, and so you can actually start to
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Speaker 6: look at the Cana experience and say, well, what happened there?
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Speaker 6: Can we bring that model to Australia. But while we
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Speaker 6: have this debate, this sort of intractable debate about this
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Speaker 6: number that number, unfortunately we're not actually getting to the
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Speaker 6: things that matter.
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Speaker 7: That much.
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Speaker 10: Now.
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Speaker 4: One Nation is also called for Section eighteen C of
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Speaker 4: the Racial Discrimination Act to be removed, given it it's
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Speaker 4: an enduring threat to political debate and free speech.
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Speaker 3: But again David Farley didn't agree.
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Speaker 9: It's something that you would really want to think very
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Speaker 9: carefully of where are we going as a nation and
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Speaker 9: what does the character and the personality want to portray.
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Speaker 2: Doesn't sound like your Well.
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Speaker 9: I'm not convinced we need to go and change anything
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Speaker 9: at the moment.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Dan, these are fundamental issues of values. You
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Speaker 4: can have people within a party who disagree on certain topics,
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Speaker 4: but something like section eighteen C within one nation, I
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Speaker 4: would have thought you would have a sheared belief system
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Speaker 4: when it comes to something that fundamental. And let's not
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Speaker 4: forget the Liberals took that to an election one in
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Speaker 4: a landslide and then failed to do what they promised.
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Speaker 7: Well, that's right.
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Speaker 6: I don't quite understand how David Farley could arrive at
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Speaker 6: that view. If nothing else, given that his boss is
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Speaker 6: being persecuted under that very provision. I mean, even if
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Speaker 6: it's just pure self interest that got him to that conclusion.
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Speaker 6: I'm perplexed by this on many different levels. And we're
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Speaker 6: just talking about Section eight and C. And look, you
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Speaker 6: can debate all the different components of it, but I
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Speaker 6: would point you in to just one thing. It is
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Speaker 6: not being used in any way remotely close to what
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Speaker 6: any reasonable person could say is consistent with what it
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Speaker 6: was intended to do. And I disagree with it completely,
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Speaker 6: don't get me wrong, but you just look at the
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Speaker 6: double standard, the fact that it's been weaponized for political purposes.
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Speaker 6: That in and of itself is enough to say that
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Speaker 6: this is a terrible law that needs to be repealed,
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Speaker 6: let alone all of the very chilling effects. Because it's
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Speaker 6: only a small number of people that are directly persecuted
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Speaker 6: under this law. But for every one person, there's thousands
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Speaker 6: of others that look at what's happened to pull Enhance
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Speaker 6: and Andrew bill Leek and so forth, and they go,
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Speaker 6: I don't want to be in that camp. I'm just
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Speaker 6: going to keep my mouth shut. Well, that's not what
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Speaker 6: we do in Australia. People are allowed to speak and
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Speaker 6: I would have thought that's pretty straightforward.
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Speaker 4: And even people who have been exonerated, the process has
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Speaker 4: been the punishment for them. They've had this hanging over
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Speaker 4: their head, the stress of legal proceedings, having to seek counsel,
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Speaker 4: all of this, and the case of those three university
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Speaker 4: students in Queensland who were dragged through this system for
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Speaker 4: the crime of pointing out that a Indigenous only area
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Speaker 4: within a university was segregation and they didn't agree with it.
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Speaker 4: That to me is just unforgivable how we could have
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Speaker 4: cases like that and not have this law changed. Don't
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Speaker 4: Forget The Fight for the Right documentary premiers on News
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Speaker 4: twenty four tomorrow night at seven pm. Now, let's move
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Speaker 4: on to labor being pushed to consider putting parents that
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Speaker 4: are dependent on Center Link and have drug an alcohol
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Speaker 4: issues into mandatory Rehabit follows revelations the WA government failed
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Speaker 4: to remove three Aboriginal children from their Port Headland home
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Speaker 4: where their mother killed them in a drug fueled rampage.
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Speaker 4: The Australian newspaper reveals the children's grandmother warned authorities repeatedly
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Speaker 4: about the risk her daughter posed and try to have
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Speaker 4: them live with her, but the.
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Speaker 3: Children were not removed. She was ignored.
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Speaker 4: Dorothy said her daughter would use welfare payments to fuel
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Speaker 4: the drug habit that ultimately led to her crimes. Dan,
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Speaker 4: we hear so little about these cases. These poor children,
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Speaker 4: Jamila just ten years old, under seven and Calvin just
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Speaker 4: four months old, were failed by their mother, but they
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Speaker 4: were also failed by the system. Do you think the
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Speaker 4: Albanesi government should tie an addicted parents centering payments to
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Speaker 4: their commitment to at least undergo rehab.
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Speaker 7: If it works. Sure.
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Speaker 6: I don't know whether force rehab is effective or not,
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Speaker 6: to be honest with you, So look, I think these
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Speaker 6: are always very complex in terms of what's happening these tragedies,
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Speaker 6: and from what you described there, this may have been
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Speaker 6: avoided if authorities had have granted custody to the grandparent.
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Speaker 6: Now maybe there's good reasons they didn't. I don't know.
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Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean there's a saying which is, you know,
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Speaker 6: bad cases make bad law, so you don't want to
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Speaker 6: legislate on the basis of one case in and of itself. However,
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Speaker 6: we do have some precedent in a sense, which is
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Speaker 6: the cash list debit card, which is basically, you're going
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Speaker 6: to be receiving welfare and payments in exchange for spending
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Speaker 6: them on things that's going to help your life rather
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Speaker 6: than things that might make your life not as good.
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Speaker 6: So it would probably be consistent with that principle and
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Speaker 6: that concept. But like I say, I don't know whether
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Speaker 6: forcing people into rehab is something that actually produces a
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Speaker 6: better outcome for them or not. If it does, it
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Speaker 6: should be looked at. But like I say, I think
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Speaker 6: these tragedies are always very complicated.
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Speaker 3: At the local level, they are complicated.
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Speaker 4: But speaking more broadly, I wonder if the debate that
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Speaker 4: we need to have is why children in this circumstance
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Speaker 4: were not removed and whether the fact that they were
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Speaker 4: Indigenous played a part, because we have heard from people
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Speaker 4: working in that sector that there is a reluctance because
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Speaker 4: of the specter of the stolen generation that they don't
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Speaker 4: want to create another one and remove Indigenous children from
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Speaker 4: their homes. And I think that is a debate that
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Speaker 4: has almost stand become taboo to have.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's a fair point, and I know
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Speaker 6: Senator just Enterprise has talked about these kind of matters
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Speaker 6: with some authority about the unwillingness for that to happen,
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Speaker 6: as you say, for ideological reasons, and so this is
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Speaker 6: clearly something that needs to be addressed. If children are
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Speaker 6: not being removed from a dangerous environment because of the
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Speaker 6: factors that you have outlined, then plainly that is a
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Speaker 6: monumental failure of the political system.
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Speaker 3: Daniel Wilde, thank you for your time.
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Speaker 4: At least one fresh allegation of sexual assault and multiple
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Speaker 4: claims of sexual conduct without consent have been made by
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Speaker 4: three women at the center of the Sydney Swan scandal.
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Speaker 4: They come as police were alerted to the potential existence
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Speaker 4: of a recording relating to the events at the Pullman
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Speaker 4: Hotel in the early hours of last Monday. Joining me
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Speaker 4: now for more on this is host of the Integrity
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Speaker 4: Unit and senior reporter with the Herald Sun, Scept Costello said,
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Speaker 4: what can you tell me about this saga that has
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Speaker 4: dominated news coverage for the past seven days.
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Speaker 3: It's been quite extraordinary.
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Speaker 11: It's been the big football story I reckon at least
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Speaker 11: since the Essendon supplement saga. And it almost reminds me
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Speaker 11: of that sordid episode with Ricky.
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Speaker 2: Nixon and the sin Kilda schoolgirl.
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Speaker 11: For the involvement of law enforcement, the involvement for some
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Speaker 11: of the so we say, nocturnal parts of society. You
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Speaker 11: mentioned there are recording. I've been doing some work on
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Speaker 11: this as I understand it. On the girl's side, they
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Speaker 11: think that this recording could contain somebody that is known
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Speaker 11: to them and that was pretending or at least given
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Speaker 11: the impression they were representing those girls, but did not
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Speaker 11: actually have any formal connection with them. So it's been
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Speaker 11: suggested that this recording was done at home with all
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Speaker 11: the girls present. I don't believe that's the case. I'm
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Speaker 11: told that after they were interviewed by police at the
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Speaker 11: Pullman Hotel last Monday, they all went their separate ways,
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Speaker 11: so they weren't actually together for such a recording to
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Speaker 11: be made. It's my understanding if a tape does exist,
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Speaker 11: it's potentially somebody ringing up the Sydney Swans and giving
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Speaker 11: the impression that they're acting on behalf of the women
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Speaker 11: when they may not have been.
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Speaker 4: And perhaps trying to get admissions or agreements to a
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Speaker 4: way forward. In this case, what would they So this
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Speaker 4: tape isn't anything that occurred inside that room, something that
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Speaker 4: allegedly happened afterwards.
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Speaker 11: That's right as I understand it. It's believed from the girls,
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Speaker 11: a source close to the girls that the tape contains
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Speaker 11: an associate of theirs, perhaps contacting a representative of the
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Speaker 11: Sydney Swans to say, we can work together on this and.
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Speaker 2: I will be the liaison on behalf of the girls.
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Speaker 11: So they've now lawyered up, so that person didn't have
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Speaker 11: any actual authority to act for them.
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Speaker 3: They have all layed up.
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Speaker 4: Had the Swans, the AFL, Victoria Police, anyone confirmed that
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Speaker 4: this recording actually.
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Speaker 11: Exists, Yeah, Well, Andrew Dillon held his press conference today
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Speaker 11: and he was very clear that he didn't.
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Speaker 2: Know about its existence.
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Speaker 11: The report came from Caroline Wilson, who's been around football
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Speaker 11: for decades, so you know, I suggest there is some
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Speaker 11: substance to it. So I believe probably something does exist.
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Speaker 11: But the AFL is saying that they're not confirming it.
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Speaker 11: They're also sort of saying they're not making their own
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Speaker 11: inquiries at the moment.
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Speaker 2: That's not true.
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Speaker 11: The AFL's own integrity unit gets involved the second you
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Speaker 11: know an issue that's damaging to football's brand is in
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Speaker 11: the news, so they would certainly be making their own inquiries.
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Speaker 11: Andrew Dillon was asked whether the players have been drug tested.
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Speaker 11: He said they won't be doing that while the police
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Speaker 11: investigation is on, which I thought was pretty interesting.
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Speaker 3: Which is I find a bizarre answer.
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Speaker 4: I mean, what that has to do with the police
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Speaker 4: investigation is beyond me.
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Speaker 3: That is a code.
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Speaker 4: Requirement that players submit to drug testing for illicit substances.
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Speaker 4: They're supposed to have I think two hair follicle tests
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Speaker 4: a year.
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Speaker 10: Now.
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Speaker 3: This is a.
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Speaker 4: Welfare system, it's not a punishment system. But you would
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Speaker 4: think after you've had a scandal like this and open
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Speaker 4: allegations of drugs being used cocaine, ketamine, why you wouldn't
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Speaker 4: drug test those players immediately. And the fact that they
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Speaker 4: had them drive up to Sydney, which takes a lot
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Speaker 4: longer than flying up even that's caused conjecture about the
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Speaker 4: AFL almost trying to avoid this debate again because we've
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Speaker 4: had it for what twenty plus years, that the league
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Speaker 4: has a drug problem, that it is rife, that it
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Speaker 4: is hidden, and the league's official policy is a brand
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Speaker 4: management policy, not a drug detection policy.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, well, if it was there to stop players falling
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Speaker 11: into the trap of addiction or other things. Then it's
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Speaker 11: clearly fun because we've seen players like Ben Cousins go through.
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Speaker 11: We had a situation at Carlton this year which was
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Speaker 11: at times difficult to watch. So yeah, I think part
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Speaker 11: of the conversation will now go towards the illicit drug
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Speaker 11: policy once again and whether it's actually working in deterring
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Speaker 11: players from making silly decision.
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Speaker 4: Has no deterrence because you can They've got such loopholes
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Speaker 4: in there. You can drive a truck through if you
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Speaker 4: say that you have an issue, even if you get
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Speaker 4: a strike, if you're unlucky enough to get caught, then
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Speaker 4: you don't have that strike count because you have admitted
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Speaker 4: to an issue and it's a welfare program and you've
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Speaker 4: got a silk sickness. I mean, these are self created
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Speaker 4: problems for THEAFL. There was a lot of talk that
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Speaker 4: a huge crowd would sho up to watch the Swan's
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Speaker 4: afl W game. There was a big crowd there, but
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Speaker 4: there was a lot of talk that the crowd would
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Speaker 4: leave after the afl W game, they won't want to
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Speaker 4: stick around and watch Swans play North as a protest
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Speaker 4: against this sort of behavior. But the crowd watching the
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Speaker 4: AFL game was around double the one that watched the
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Speaker 4: AFLW games. But we did see these signs around the ground,
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Speaker 4: probably about a dozen of them being held by fans
20:09
Speaker 4: not happy with how the Swans and the AFL have.
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Speaker 3: Handled this crisis.
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Speaker 4: Tell me about that, because that has been a big
20:18
Speaker 4: part of this story, trying to tie what happened allegedly
20:23
Speaker 4: in that room with the much bigger issue of violence
20:27
Speaker 4: against women, and even any talk about football matters has
20:32
Speaker 4: been decried as somehow minimizing violence against women. The fact
20:37
Speaker 4: that this is on the front page is because they're footballers.
20:40
Speaker 3: I think there's no denying that.
20:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't agree with that commentary. I think I
20:46
Speaker 2: think it is possible.
20:48
Speaker 11: I don't think discussing the football implications of five players
20:51
Speaker 11: being suspended on the eve of finals means that I
20:53
Speaker 11: don't properly understand the serious issue of women under threat
20:58
Speaker 11: by fro biaks of Island.
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Speaker 2: So by acts of sexual assault.
21:01
Speaker 11: I think you can have both of those discussions currently
21:04
Speaker 11: and it's not insensitive.
21:05
Speaker 4: To talk football where that's going on, especially on football programs.
21:08
Speaker 4: This is what I found absolutely remarkable, and the AFL
21:12
Speaker 4: media being what it is quickly fell into line, and
21:16
Speaker 4: you know, every story had paragraphs.
21:19
Speaker 3: Saying, you know, this almost doesn't matter.
21:22
Speaker 4: We should all be focused on this when if you're
21:24
Speaker 4: a sports program you're allowed to discuss the sporting implications
21:28
Speaker 4: of what's happened. That doesn't mean you don't care about
21:31
Speaker 4: the treatment of women. But I think the hysteria last
21:35
Speaker 4: week was pronounced before you go and ask you about
21:38
Speaker 4: the Essenon decision Essen and Champion James Hurt has missed
21:42
Speaker 4: out again on the top job at his former club.
21:45
Speaker 4: Mark McVey is expected to be announced as the new
21:48
Speaker 4: coach tomorrow. Here is James Hurd on nine last night.
21:52
Speaker 12: From a personal point of view, though it's very disappointing.
21:54
Speaker 2: I'm disappointed.
21:55
Speaker 12: Put my heart and soul into the effort, but obviously
21:58
Speaker 12: fell short and that's.
21:59
Speaker 2: The way it goes.
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Speaker 10: Sab.
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Speaker 4: How are the Bomber's faithful going to react to this appointment?
22:05
Speaker 4: They've been staved with success for a long time and
22:08
Speaker 4: there's a feral air about them at the moment.
22:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is going to be a hard
22:13
Speaker 2: sell in the short term.
22:14
Speaker 4: Even though McVeigh is a former esslthan champion, you do,
22:17
Speaker 4: I think that's going to win them over.
22:19
Speaker 11: I don't think Mark McVeigh was a beloved Eston player,
22:23
Speaker 11: but he's not James Hurd.
22:24
Speaker 2: And I say that as an Esson supporter.
22:26
Speaker 11: My father Peter Costello was the number one ticket holder
22:29
Speaker 11: the Eston Football Club for more than a decade back
22:32
Speaker 11: when we used to win premiership and James heard, you know,
22:35
Speaker 11: I could do no wrong in those days.
22:37
Speaker 2: He was the.
22:37
Speaker 11: Captain, He at times was the face of the league
22:40
Speaker 11: and I think you know what he went through on
22:42
Speaker 11: a personal level. Eston fans really felt was unfair at
22:45
Speaker 11: times and certainly I felt was over the top at times,
22:49
Speaker 11: and I would have loved to have seen him have
22:51
Speaker 11: another chance to be a part of the football club.
22:53
Speaker 11: If I know Herdi, I actually don't think this will
22:57
Speaker 11: be the end of the road for him, you know.
22:58
Speaker 11: I mean, I hope and succeed under Spike McVeigh, but
23:02
Speaker 11: if in three or four years Esner needs another coach,
23:05
Speaker 11: it would not surprise me if James had put his
23:07
Speaker 11: hand up again.
23:08
Speaker 4: And he said there's other clubs interested in him, maybe
23:11
Speaker 4: he will go and do a bit of work at
23:13
Speaker 4: another club, because that seemed to be the biggest impediment
23:16
Speaker 4: and I think another impediment was his supporters that I
23:20
Speaker 4: think the club enjoyed some of the pressure that was
23:24
Speaker 4: applied by the media campaign, and I think that actually
23:29
Speaker 4: ended up doing far more damage than good for But
23:33
Speaker 4: do you think he was ever in contention because there's
23:35
Speaker 4: also a line that he was never really in the running,
23:37
Speaker 4: that they were just humoring him because the fans were
23:41
Speaker 4: going to be irate.
23:42
Speaker 11: I'd like to think that he was in contention because
23:45
Speaker 11: I'm a big one for the sovereignty of the clubs.
23:48
Speaker 11: I think Esnon supporters and the Esmond board should be
23:51
Speaker 11: the only people making the consideration of who the coach
23:54
Speaker 11: of Esnon is. I think too often in the footy
23:56
Speaker 11: industry clubs are pressured by AFL house not to make
24:01
Speaker 11: certain appointment.
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Speaker 4: That's certainly what happened last time. SEPHN Costello, thank you
24:04
Speaker 4: so much for your time.
24:05
Speaker 3: Thanks still to car Matt.
24:07
Speaker 4: Lefties Losing Ad plass the latest from the US, including
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Speaker 4: hundreds of women showing their support for confessed triple killer
24:16
Speaker 4: Lindsey Clancy Horowitz is up next. You're watching the Reader
24:27
Speaker 4: Panny Show, and it's time for Lefty's Losing Ad. Let's
24:31
Speaker 4: start with the activist movement posing as a sporting organization.
24:35
Speaker 4: That's the WNBA, and they've decided to really lean into
24:39
Speaker 4: the transactivism by introducing a new non binary mascot. Yes,
24:46
Speaker 4: meet Dez, a butch, non binary blue snapping turtle.
24:50
Speaker 3: Take that, Sophie Cunningham.
24:52
Speaker 13: The snapping turtle. What's jump introduced to.
24:56
Speaker 14: The sold out crowd and Scotia Banker in it.
24:58
Speaker 4: Yes, that's the new mascot for the Toronto Temper.
25:02
Speaker 3: They really went out there and made up a.
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Speaker 4: New non binary mascot to passive aggressively attack Sophie Cunningham
25:09
Speaker 4: because she stood up for women and biological reality. The
25:13
Speaker 4: WNBA apparently doesn't know what the w stands for, but
25:17
Speaker 4: they know that and like being mocked the league, which
25:19
Speaker 4: is a welfare program essentially subsidized by the NBA.
25:23
Speaker 3: They've never made.
25:24
Speaker 4: A profit, don't even seem interested in making a profit.
25:27
Speaker 4: Earlier today, the WNBA ejected former NBA star and sometimes
25:32
Speaker 4: trans woman in his cant of Freedom from a game
25:36
Speaker 4: after he was verbally abused by Chicago skyguard Natasha Cloud.
25:40
Speaker 4: Now this man wants to play in the WNBA, He
25:43
Speaker 4: has nominated for the draft, and he's treated like this.
25:47
Speaker 5: Chicago stand in it Natasha Cloud and right before the break,
25:54
Speaker 5: this was the scene inside Win Trust arena after Natasha
25:57
Speaker 5: Cloud got that bucket, did her voice heard. We have
26:03
Speaker 5: talked about the conversations surrounding the w that is Edis
26:11
Speaker 5: Canter in the building today and he has voiced how
26:15
Speaker 5: he's felt about the situation of Tasha Cloud voicing her
26:20
Speaker 5: opinion as well as Cantor was just escorted out.
26:24
Speaker 4: Of course, the WNBA stands with Natasha Cloud, who has
26:28
Speaker 4: labeled US society as trash, who has said air strikes
26:32
Speaker 4: against Iran our grounds for impeachment, and who claimed Charlie
26:36
Speaker 4: Kirk's killer was a far right Republican when he in
26:40
Speaker 4: fact is a far left radical.
26:43
Speaker 3: And talking about far left radicals.
26:45
Speaker 4: Let's hear from actor Rain Wilson, who has most recently
26:48
Speaker 4: attacked the creator of the Office, the series that made
26:51
Speaker 4: him famous. He attacked Ricky Gervais, a man infinitely more
26:55
Speaker 4: talented and courageous than him. And now Rain Wilson has
27:00
Speaker 4: cared more ill considered opinions, claiming that Democrat weirdo James
27:04
Speaker 4: Tallerico is achingly close to Jesus Christian.
27:09
Speaker 3: That's the point that it is his Christianity they hate.
27:13
Speaker 12: Yeah, his brand of Christianity, which is so so achingly.
27:18
Speaker 2: Close to Jesus.
27:20
Speaker 10: We brand Christianity.
27:22
Speaker 4: Oh really, Rain, is that the same James Taylerico who
27:26
Speaker 4: claimed that God was non binary?
27:30
Speaker 12: God is both masculine and feminine and everything in between.
27:36
Speaker 12: God is non binary. In Genesis one twenty six, God
27:43
Speaker 12: speaks of God's self in the plural.
27:46
Speaker 4: Oh, God is a plural too, must have they then
27:50
Speaker 4: pronoun surprise? He didn't claim that too. He did claim
27:53
Speaker 4: that God is not Christian.
27:55
Speaker 12: God is not a Presbyterian. God is not a Christian.
28:00
Speaker 12: God is not a noun at all.
28:03
Speaker 4: God is a verb, yes, achinglee close to Jesus. Give
28:08
Speaker 4: me strength.
28:09
Speaker 2: Now.
28:09
Speaker 4: If you need further proof that privileged liberal women are
28:13
Speaker 4: amongst the biggest threats to the West, then look no
28:15
Speaker 4: further than the Lindsay Clancy case, a horrific case where
28:20
Speaker 4: three innocent children were brutally strangled to death, a case
28:24
Speaker 4: that should be above politics, but oh no, not for
28:26
Speaker 4: the leftist women who have decided killer Lindsay is the
28:30
Speaker 4: new Heroin.
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Speaker 15: An astounding show of support today for Lindsey Clancy, hundreds
28:37
Speaker 15: of women all dressed in pink, cheered the accused mom
28:41
Speaker 15: as she arrives in a police caravan for her murder trial.
28:44
Speaker 15: Supporters ran across the field to greet Lindsay. Some came
28:48
Speaker 15: with their babies. They held up hearthands during a silent
28:52
Speaker 15: rally for the mom who strangled her three young children
28:56
Speaker 15: then jumped from the second floor window, leaving her paralyzed life.
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Speaker 13: It's a buzz around here, guys.
29:02
Speaker 15: Fox News legal analyst Channelly Painter, a former prosecutor, actually
29:06
Speaker 15: wore pink in her live report as she spoke to
29:09
Speaker 15: Lindsay's defense attorney, who was greeted with cheers.
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Speaker 5: Hey, guy, what do you think of the support for
29:15
Speaker 5: Lindsay Clancy out here?
29:18
Speaker 2: I have no words, no words. It's amazing, you know.
29:21
Speaker 4: I remember the days before the modern leftist mind virus,
29:25
Speaker 4: where public sympathy.
29:26
Speaker 3: Was reserved for the victims.
29:28
Speaker 4: Great self confessed childkiller wasn't cheered like some rock star,
29:33
Speaker 4: but loathe for their crimes. This is how women reacting
29:37
Speaker 4: when Susan Smith was on trial for killing her two
29:40
Speaker 4: sons by driving her car into a lake.
29:46
Speaker 2: So I mean, but you don't answer it. Don't you
29:51
Speaker 2: wear me?
29:52
Speaker 3: Wond knowing the cold and all the time knowing, and
29:54
Speaker 3: they're Obama's late. There's no excues I would never hear.
29:58
Speaker 4: Let's bring in documentary film and commentator Army Horowitz.
30:02
Speaker 3: Army, what is going on in the US.
30:06
Speaker 4: They have raised over a million dollars for this woman, who.
30:10
Speaker 3: Let's not forget she is a privileged woman.
30:13
Speaker 4: She had a nanny, she had extensive contact with mental
30:16
Speaker 4: health professionals. Now I don't doubt that many of those
30:19
Speaker 4: mental health professionals may have failed her. But this woman
30:23
Speaker 4: sent her husband out, took the three children to the basement,
30:27
Speaker 4: and one by one in front of each other, strangle
30:30
Speaker 4: them to death. It is absolutely horrific. And out of
30:34
Speaker 4: all the videos I have seen from her supporters, not
30:37
Speaker 4: one mentions those children.
30:41
Speaker 16: Yeah, there's something really weird going on. I mean there's support,
30:45
Speaker 16: I mean supporting supporting her is just it's bizarre and
30:50
Speaker 16: it's weird.
30:51
Speaker 10: Right, Look, let me get in a second.
30:53
Speaker 16: I'll get into the into the little more of the
30:55
Speaker 16: science of it and how I think she's also in
30:58
Speaker 16: a sense of victim, right, The true victim the of course,
31:00
Speaker 16: are the children. But this this idea that they're that
31:04
Speaker 16: they're supporting her is Look, when you when you really
31:07
Speaker 16: start to listen to some of the language they're using,
31:10
Speaker 16: you hear them saying kind of the same refrain that
31:13
Speaker 16: the healthcare system is to blame, not Lindsey, but the
31:17
Speaker 16: healthcare system. And they're doing that for a very specific purpose.
31:22
Speaker 16: They're trying to make a political point, saying that we
31:26
Speaker 16: are healthcare. Our US healthcare system is garbage, and we
31:30
Speaker 16: didn't move away from our privatized healthcare into a one
31:33
Speaker 16: pair system like Europe, and that's the.
31:36
Speaker 10: Way we're going to solve all of problems.
31:39
Speaker 16: Right, never mind that our healthcare forget about the how
31:42
Speaker 16: one pays for it. She was able to she had
31:44
Speaker 16: she was able to pay for health care, she had
31:47
Speaker 16: health care coverage, and she did in fact see psychiatrists
31:50
Speaker 16: and psychologists. And by the way, I would argue, our
31:52
Speaker 16: psychiat psychologists, by many measures and metrics, are better than Europe's.
31:58
Speaker 16: But they're trying to make the argument that you US
32:00
Speaker 16: healthcare system is to fail, so they can make this point,
32:03
Speaker 16: and we are to leave the idea of privatized healthcare. Look,
32:07
Speaker 16: I also think she is in a set. Look do
32:10
Speaker 16: I think she is an evil horror person? I'm not
32:12
Speaker 16: sure that I do.
32:14
Speaker 17: Right.
32:14
Speaker 10: I think she probably did.
32:18
Speaker 16: Have and suffer from this postpartum psychosis now postpartum depression, right,
32:24
Speaker 16: two very different things.
32:25
Speaker 4: Well, she was never diagnosed with that army, she was
32:28
Speaker 4: never diagnosed with that. And every single family annihilator and
32:34
Speaker 4: they normally male. We could make the same argument that
32:37
Speaker 4: they had a psychotic break, that they're not inherently evil,
32:41
Speaker 4: but we don't make that argument because they have committed
32:43
Speaker 4: a horrific crime against vulnerable children, and we put them
32:47
Speaker 4: in jail without this sort of fanfare that we're seeing,
32:51
Speaker 4: without someone being elevated to some sort of hero status.
32:55
Speaker 3: Now, I want to play you.
32:56
Speaker 4: A clip off some of the women supporting Lindsay, and
32:58
Speaker 4: I've tried very hard to find examples where the women
33:03
Speaker 4: are a little bit more sane and measured. They're not
33:06
Speaker 4: just the screechy activists throwing ice cubes and emoting wildly
33:11
Speaker 4: on the internet.
33:11
Speaker 3: There's plenty of those videos.
33:13
Speaker 4: But if anything, I'm even more disturbed by these examples.
33:18
Speaker 13: We're both from Tennessee, we love Lindsay, and we're.
33:20
Speaker 17: Here to we're I think we all agree that it
33:22
Speaker 17: shouldn't take for it to get to tragedy for us
33:25
Speaker 17: to listen, and maybe if someone had, Lindsay wouldn't be
33:30
Speaker 17: sitting where she's sitting right now.
33:31
Speaker 15: She is tweeted not guilty by reason of insanity for
33:34
Speaker 15: killing her three young children.
33:35
Speaker 17: I thought it was really important to bring my daughter
33:37
Speaker 17: to show her the importance of mental health awareness, to
33:41
Speaker 17: advocate for yourself, that women stand together.
33:44
Speaker 10: And it's just.
33:45
Speaker 17: Sorry, so important for us to speak up and be
33:49
Speaker 17: here for Lindsay.
33:50
Speaker 14: And admittedly she did admit to killing them, but the
33:55
Speaker 14: woman you see now is completely different from the woman
34:00
Speaker 14: who did that to her kids. And I think it's
34:03
Speaker 14: really difficult for people to hold to truths that may
34:07
Speaker 14: seem opposite simultaneously. She can be a wonderful, loving mother
34:12
Speaker 14: and she did this horrible thing that she was so sick.
34:18
Speaker 14: I mean, I've seen the testimony every day. I can
34:22
Speaker 14: see how devastated she is, and I believe her. I
34:25
Speaker 14: believe her Army.
34:26
Speaker 4: There's a sickness there, suicietal empathy that we see across
34:30
Speaker 4: so many issues, but I never thought I'd see it
34:34
Speaker 4: in a case like this. I thought it something like
34:36
Speaker 4: this would be above politics. But this phenomenon we've seen
34:41
Speaker 4: of typically liberal women, privileged, educated liberal women taking these
34:50
Speaker 4: often radical positions.
34:52
Speaker 3: It really is in many.
34:55
Speaker 4: Ways setting the agenda for the Democratic Party. If you
34:58
Speaker 4: look at the support of base for the Democrats socialists,
35:02
Speaker 4: for example, if you look at the supporter base of
35:04
Speaker 4: some of the most radical leftists in America, you see
35:09
Speaker 4: a lot of these women in that supporter base.
35:12
Speaker 3: And I wonder why they.
35:14
Speaker 4: Have gravitated to that position over many years.
35:19
Speaker 16: Well, I think that all the numbers, all the polling
35:22
Speaker 16: show a great unhappiness among women over the last couple
35:27
Speaker 16: of decades. Right, it's really shot up significantly, And despite
35:32
Speaker 16: the fact that of that same period of time, the
35:35
Speaker 16: positive women are much better by any metric they were
35:38
Speaker 16: decades ago. Right, The majority of graduates from universities are women.
35:43
Speaker 10: Their pay is equal to men.
35:46
Speaker 16: They get custody in ninety nine percent of all the
35:49
Speaker 16: court proceedings get their unhappiness has gone up, And I
35:53
Speaker 16: would argue the reason why it's pretty obvious. At the
35:56
Speaker 16: same time we've been pushing to women girl boss it.
35:59
Speaker 16: You don't need a man, you don't need to be married,
36:02
Speaker 16: you don't need children, and women are in fact that
36:05
Speaker 16: you see a larger presentation of women doing that and
36:07
Speaker 16: following that path, and every polling, every data point shows
36:11
Speaker 16: that women are more unhappy when day there are not
36:14
Speaker 16: any loving relationship or and or have children. I think
36:17
Speaker 16: it's so obviously clear, and you're seeing that unhappiness manifested
36:22
Speaker 16: and all these weird ways politically on the internet, so
36:25
Speaker 16: far and so on.
36:27
Speaker 4: Now Ami too, the WNBA and their self inflicted problems.
36:31
Speaker 4: Former NBA center in as Canter Freedom, who has nominated
36:35
Speaker 4: for the WNBA draft, has been thrown out of the
36:39
Speaker 4: WNBA game today. He was escorted out of wind Trust
36:43
Speaker 4: Arena during the third quarter, apparently had a heated discussion
36:47
Speaker 4: with Chicago Skygarde Natasha Cloud.
36:51
Speaker 3: Now, I know you're a sports fan.
36:53
Speaker 4: How is the WNBA going to end this self inflicted crisis?
36:57
Speaker 4: Are they going to belatedly accept to that biological reality exists?
37:05
Speaker 10: Of course not. They continue to double down this thing.
37:08
Speaker 16: It's so look, you know what, Yes, I am, I'm
37:11
Speaker 16: a huge sports fan.
37:12
Speaker 10: I can't look. I can't say I'm a huge fan
37:14
Speaker 10: of the w n B A.
37:15
Speaker 16: I tried, I honestly try to watch games. It's they
37:20
Speaker 16: keep saying, oh, it's technically better basketball. It's not better basketball.
37:24
Speaker 16: I'm sorry, it's just not. And by the way, I'm
37:27
Speaker 16: a fan of some women's sports over men's sports. I
37:31
Speaker 16: prefer women gymnastics over men gymnastics. I prefer women's tennis
37:36
Speaker 16: over male tennis. I prefer women's mod wrestling over male wrestling.
37:40
Speaker 10: I do.
37:41
Speaker 16: So it's not it's all anti women's sports. But look,
37:45
Speaker 16: they continue doing this to themselves, right, and and they're
37:49
Speaker 16: digging their own grave. It's not like they have a
37:52
Speaker 16: large enough base where they have enough goodwill where they
37:54
Speaker 16: can create this controversy.
37:55
Speaker 10: They simply don't. They're really just now emerging.
37:59
Speaker 16: From a sense actually nobody, very few people watching them
38:02
Speaker 16: with Caitlin Clark, and they're trying to kill the goose
38:05
Speaker 16: lay and the golden eggs. That's so crazy about this.
38:07
Speaker 16: And by the way, again this Inis Kanter thing, it's like, look,
38:10
Speaker 16: I love him, he's funny, it's performative art. I'm all
38:13
Speaker 16: for it, obviously. But by the way, before he got
38:16
Speaker 16: thrown out of this gamey, first of all, he was
38:19
Speaker 16: he was met with derision and and and people attacking
38:23
Speaker 16: him outside the arena.
38:24
Speaker 10: And then of course this one female.
38:26
Speaker 16: Player, yeah, uh cloud uh started this thing.
38:31
Speaker 2: With him.
38:31
Speaker 10: Just to give some context on this woman Cloud. Okay,
38:35
Speaker 10: she is.
38:35
Speaker 16: Somebody who said that it was Tyler Robinson was a
38:39
Speaker 16: was a right wing killer of Charlie Kirk right. She
38:42
Speaker 16: said she threatened Ice and she called America trash.
38:45
Speaker 10: No, ma'am, you are trash. Sorry, that's the reality.
38:50
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And she has so much form.
38:53
Speaker 4: And it's an activist lag and you talked about they
38:57
Speaker 4: are almost addicted to success. Well that they don't have
39:00
Speaker 4: to be successful because it's a welfare league. The NBA
39:04
Speaker 4: funds them. They've made a loss every single year. They'll
39:07
Speaker 4: make a loss again this year, they'll make it lost
39:09
Speaker 4: next year. There really is no incentive for them to
39:12
Speaker 4: actually be commercially successful because someone else is picking up
39:15
Speaker 4: the tabs. So that's what you get when you've got
39:18
Speaker 4: a league where success is and a KPI. Now, before
39:22
Speaker 4: you go, ah Me, I want to ask you about
39:24
Speaker 4: the ongoing conflict with Iran. The New York Post editorial
39:28
Speaker 4: today argued that even before Treasury Secretary Scott Biscent sets
39:32
Speaker 4: out new US moves to pressure Iran's economy, things are
39:35
Speaker 4: looking increasingly grimed for Tehran. President Donald Trump is clearly
39:40
Speaker 4: winning and mainly needs to hold firm as the enemy
39:43
Speaker 4: tries to wriggle out. Crucially, oil is now flowing through
39:48
Speaker 4: the straight off moose, meaning Tehran's gambit of closing it
39:51
Speaker 4: has failed and the neighbors that Iran.
39:53
Speaker 3: Has been attacking have had enough.
39:55
Speaker 4: Its largest trading partner, the United Arab Emirates, last week
40:00
Speaker 4: cut off all transactions, including financial ones.
40:04
Speaker 3: Is that how you also said army?
40:06
Speaker 4: Is the regime min Iran being weakened every day.
40:10
Speaker 3: By this conflict?
40:11
Speaker 4: Because there are plenty of foreign policy experts who argue
40:15
Speaker 4: the opposite. They say the regime is becoming emboldened.
40:20
Speaker 16: Now they're they're they're they're wrong. And I've been saying
40:23
Speaker 16: this over and over again. They kept saying that. The
40:25
Speaker 16: critics of the Iranian war keep saying that time is
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Speaker 16: in the Iranian side, and I've come on your show
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Speaker 16: and said a million times that is such bogus. Time
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Speaker 16: is absolutely not on the Iranian side. They're being devastated economically,
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Speaker 16: they were devastated militarily, and we continue to get in
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Speaker 16: a better better position. Who would have thought that that
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Speaker 16: that we would keep oil under one hundred dollars a barrel?
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Speaker 16: It was, It was far lower the I mean sorry,
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Speaker 16: the price spike has been at a far lower percentage
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Speaker 16: than any other Gulf war that we have fought. They
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Speaker 16: have absolutely made an enemy of all of their neighbors
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Speaker 16: and we more most importantly, we've broken taboo that we
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Speaker 16: cannot attack Iran now that they're sitting ducks anytime the
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Speaker 16: United States, Israel or its allies want to go in
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Speaker 16: there and clean up this mess. I do believe the
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Speaker 16: regime is going to fall within the next twelve months.
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Speaker 16: I do, and but the only that worries me though,
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Speaker 16: is that they are They're not in bold, they're not emboldened.
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Speaker 10: But they are they might strike that. I think there's
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Speaker 10: they may be October surprise. That's my big worry.
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Speaker 16: They were the originators of the October Surprise right fifty
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Speaker 16: years ago when they took the American hostages. I'm afraid
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Speaker 16: they're going to do it again, try to create a
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Speaker 16: wider conflict. I don't think it's going to work, But
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Speaker 16: that's kind of my one last worry.
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Speaker 3: I mean, harwait's thank you so much for your time.
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Speaker 3: It was a pleasure still to come.
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Speaker 4: Hollywood star Mark Ruffalo last paramount climbing the media Giant
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Speaker 4: is complicit in genocide. Kinsisco Field will have all your
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Speaker 4: royal and entertainment use.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back.
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Speaker 4: Now, let's check in on pop star Sam Smith, who
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Speaker 4: insists on being called a plural he has. They then
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Speaker 4: pronouns good luck with that won't be happening on this show.
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Speaker 3: Well, Sam, who has some good tunes, has a new music.
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Speaker 4: Video for his latest work, Constant Companion, and it's as
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Speaker 4: awful as you'd expect. Joining me now is host of
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Speaker 4: the Kinsey Schofield Unfiltered podcast. Kinsey, I don't know who
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Speaker 4: that's appealing to, but it's a no from me.
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Speaker 1: Is Sam playing a cowboy or a cow them?
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Speaker 13: You know, it's a big question. I saw someone call.
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Speaker 4: Who would say a cow them? He would say cow him.
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Speaker 4: He's actually quite insistent. I think he said he didn't
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Speaker 4: want to be referred to as a fisherman. He was
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Speaker 4: a fisher they.
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Speaker 13: Oh my gosh. Sure.
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Speaker 1: I Unfortunately I'd forgotten about that. I did see a
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Speaker 1: comment that said that this is how Tiger King envisioned himself,
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Speaker 1: and you know, the difference there is that Tiger King
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Speaker 1: is a likable character. Someone else commented he could have
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Speaker 1: kept this video to himself, yes, and maybe he should
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Speaker 1: have or how about as a gay white male? Even
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Speaker 1: I thought this was too much makes me want to
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Speaker 1: go to church. So if Sam Smith is sending people
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Speaker 1: back to Jesus, maybe our work here is done.
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Speaker 4: The actor Mark Ruffalo has blasted Paramount in a post
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Speaker 4: on Instagram last week where he accused the media giant
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Speaker 4: of being complicit in what we now have come to
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Speaker 4: see as a genocide. Now the company has responded. They
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Speaker 4: have said words like genocide and apartheid applied to a
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Speaker 4: corporate transaction aren't just wrong, they're a bridge too far
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Speaker 4: and they cheapen the very real suffering those words are
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Speaker 4: meant to describe Kinsey. The company added that they won't
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Speaker 4: tolerate prejudice of any kind against anyone. I've got to say,
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Speaker 4: it's good to see some response to this hysteric hyperbole
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Speaker 4: that we get from Hollywood stars like Ruffalo.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I love when incredibly wealthy Hollywood actors suddenly discover the
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Speaker 1: dangers of corporate power. Mark even playing the whole for
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Speaker 1: Disney for twenty years, Welcome to capitalism.
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Speaker 13: But you know we discussed this on your show all
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Speaker 13: the time.
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Speaker 1: Paramount made the strongest point, words like genocide have meaning.
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Speaker 1: If we start attaching the most inflammatory language imaginable to
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Speaker 1: corporate transactions and people we politically dislike, eventually those words
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Speaker 1: lose all gravity.
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Speaker 4: Now Anna Faris actress Anna Faris appeared on Chelsea Handler's podcast.
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Speaker 3: And talked about how her fourteen year old.
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Speaker 4: Son Jack asked her to accept Jesus Christ as her savior.
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Speaker 4: She said she tried to challenge him on that, telling him,
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Speaker 4: do you think it's a luxury that you get to
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Speaker 4: be pro life? Kinsey, she's challenging her son's Christianity.
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Speaker 1: Up.
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Speaker 4: Bet she wouldn't be challenging him if he wanted puberty blockers.
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Speaker 3: And they then.
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Speaker 1: Pronounce Hollywood loves the rebellious teenagers until the rebellion involves
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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ and a Bible. You know, this fourteen year
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Speaker 1: old has developed beliefs that are different from his mother's.
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Speaker 1: Isn't that what we supposedly want young people capable of
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Speaker 1: thinking for themselves. By the way, I'm not taking life
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Speaker 1: advice from Anna Faris. She's lucky Jack even engages.
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Speaker 3: Now, let's speak about Prince Harry.
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Speaker 4: His did an interview a while back, and it's resurfaced
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Speaker 4: now that we know they're moving back to the UK.
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Speaker 4: He told The New York Times that Princess Diana would
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Speaker 4: have wanted him to live in the US.
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Speaker 18: It's a it's a part of part of my life
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Speaker 18: that I never thought I was I was going to
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Speaker 18: live and I feel as though it's the life that
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Speaker 18: my mum wanted for me, and to be able to
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Speaker 18: do the things that I am able to do with
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Speaker 18: my kids that I undoubtedly wouldn't be able to do
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Speaker 18: in the UK.
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Speaker 4: And Megan has often spoken about what made more Decito
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Speaker 4: so special?
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Speaker 14: So what is it about Montecito, Like, what made this
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Speaker 14: place feel like home more than other places?
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Speaker 13: Well, we moved here five years ago.
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Speaker 15: Oh, we're just so happy because we can take our
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Speaker 15: kids to school and have a really supported, sweet life.
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Speaker 3: How important is it to own your own story. It's
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Speaker 3: the most important thing in the world.
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Speaker 4: And yet Kinsey, they're abandoning all that and moving back
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Speaker 4: to the UK, where they claim they're victimized.
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Speaker 1: What can he do in America that he can't do
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Speaker 1: with his kids in the United Kingdom? Smokeable, I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's ridiculous, But this is why their words have stopped
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Speaker 1: carrying anyweight America was freedom, Britain was trauma, California was healing,
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Speaker 1: wan Asda was paradise, and now apparently paradise is a
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Speaker 1: forwarding address in Britain. Six years later they're packing up.
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Speaker 1: The greatest enemy for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex
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Speaker 1: isn't the British press, It's the archive. This is the
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Speaker 1: problem with giving so many interviews. Eventually somebody presses play.
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Speaker 4: You're right, Kinsey, and the fact checks did not help them,
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Speaker 4: particularly after that Oprah interview where there were so many
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Speaker 4: lies and half truths uttered, particularly by Megan. Now do
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Speaker 4: you believe they had hopes of being a political force
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Speaker 4: in America. There was a lot of talk at one
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Speaker 4: stage of Meghan Markele entering politics.
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Speaker 1: I've created an entire list of why this is true.
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Speaker 1: When she was doing the summits online with Kamala Harris
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Speaker 1: and Hillary Clinton and Stacy Abrams and sitting down, she
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Speaker 1: was atally calling voters, trying to get people to register
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Speaker 1: to vote at one point, colleague senators, you know, trying
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Speaker 1: to change trying to change the law. There were rumors
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Speaker 1: that she had purchased URLs to promote her political ambitions.
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Speaker 1: She tried to fly on Air Force One with Joe
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Speaker 1: Biden and was turned down. I mean, I have an
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Speaker 1: entire list of reasons why I do think that she
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Speaker 1: did not move to Canada moved to the United States
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Speaker 1: because she really had her heart set on pursuing that.
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Speaker 4: Well, there's rumors now that she's eyeing a returned to
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Speaker 4: acting as part of her move back to Britain. There
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Speaker 4: were reports she held preliminary talks with Guy Ritchie about
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Speaker 4: a role in his gangster series The Gentleman, but Kinsey
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Speaker 4: apparently the offer has been withdrawn due to backlash.
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Speaker 3: What could you tell me about this?
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Speaker 1: Megan of course denies this, but I just have severe
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Speaker 1: doubts about this entire saga.
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Speaker 13: This is what doesn't add up for me.
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Speaker 1: Megan had every conceivable advantage in Hollywood, global name recognition,
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Speaker 1: enormous contracts, Netflix, celebrity friends, Tyler Perry. She didn't lack access,
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Speaker 1: she lacked demand. Moving to Britain doesn't magically change that.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: I have a hard time believing she had to up
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Speaker 1: and leave to another country because she got some Guy
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Speaker 1: Ritchie gig.
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Speaker 3: Kinsey.
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Speaker 4: I've also heard rumors that the whole guy Ritchie thing
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Speaker 4: was planted by Meghan's team that there was never an offer,
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Speaker 4: It wasn't being talked about, but they put it out
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Speaker 4: there to try to generate some interest and get people
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Speaker 4: to know that she wants to act again again. There
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Speaker 4: are so many conspiracy theories for these two because there
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Speaker 4: are leaks from their side constantly.
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Speaker 1: Kinsey, I mean, we had this conversation last week. Even
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Speaker 1: if that's true, what does that tell me that they're
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Speaker 1: in financial distress and that's why they're moving to Britain.
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Speaker 1: Meghan needs work, you know, I'd still say that the
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Speaker 1: answer is the same, that Meghan needs a jo.
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Speaker 4: That I find incredible though, because the deals they signed
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Speaker 4: with Netflix and Spotify that were enormous. We're talking about
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Speaker 4: fifty million dollar deals, one hundred million dollar deals. How
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Speaker 4: could they possibly be running out of money? Kinseyscho filled
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Speaker 4: a lot more for us to talk about later in
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Speaker 4: the week.
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