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Priority Ranking the Needs on the Buffalo Bills Roster: Paths, Targets, & More | DC · Disguised Coverage

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  in tonight's episode of Diskui's coverage, I am joined by one of my favorite
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  guests to take a look at where the Buffalo Bills are right now from a
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  roster standpoint, and where they need to go going forward. We've seen a
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  lot of moving and shaken on this Bill's team since the week for free agency,
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  and really once free agency kicked off, we saw some additions in a
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  variety of ways, but there's still holes that exist on this roster. There
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  is still additions that need to be made, both in terms of quantity and
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  quality. So what we're going to do in tonight's episode is dive into that
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  Buffalo Bill's roster, prioritize and rank the positions of need, potential targets,
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  paths going forward in terms of addressing those needs and so on and so forth
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  and all that fun stuff. And let me grab this quick quick comment here
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  from just the Tipickanu. He says, you're gonna put an the eggs on
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  that tree. Absolutely, So the tree is staying Saint Patrick's Day themed right
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  which separate conversation, I'm super annoyed that Easter's in March. It just it
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  as will a little bit more. I've already started to go a little Easter
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  and the background here, but we'll get more Easter pieces there. But I
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  digress. My guest for this journey Intonight's episode. As I mentioned, one
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  of my favorite guests, mister Bruce Nolan, hosts The Bruce Exclusive. You're
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  always tremendous when you come here. You're powering through right now. You're a
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  busy man. I appreciate you taking the time. Welcome to the show.
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  How you doing it? I'm doing fantastic. But I do have a little
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  bit of a bone to pick, and that is have you ever noticed that
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  what you can do is you can constantly get away with saying the phrase one
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  of my favorite guests, and it can be true for literally anyone that is
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  that is true. But all you have to all you have to do is
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  just say one of my favorite guests. You could say it for literally every
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  guest you have and it could still be true and you get a chance to
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  kind of fluff somebody up, but never have to commit to an actual ranking.
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  I think we should make you tear all of your podcast guests, just
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  put you right on the spot. That would be really tough. But you
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  know what is funny. What is funny in my defense because I have consciously,
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  because you and I are here, I have consciously thought of that before.
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  I don't use that phrasing for every everyone, like if if someone wants
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  to actually do their homework and look back like there's only there's a very very
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  few, select few that I've used that for. But I like where your
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  head's at. Actually, that's actually pretty good. Like off season content,
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  like when it's just like you're in the doldrums of the off season. It's
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  just like, I'm gonna tear all the guests I've ever had on this show
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  absolutely just set fire to like all of your relationships with other people in the
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  space. That's just a great way to do it. I choose to go
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  with musicals personally, but you know what, to each their own, right,
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  everybody's got their own sort of off season doldrum content. You know,
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  I'm thinking about maybe, you know, doing a couple of food pods.
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  Why not. You know, you gotta do what you gotta do in the
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  in the dog days of summer. It's always fun. People are tired,
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  they're ready to have something else to spruce it up, So you know,
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  keep starting up to bruce it up. Yeah, yeah, we'renna bruce it
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  up, Bruce. I like where you're going with this right, there's potential
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  here, Bruce. Let's set the table for this this conversation before we really
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  dive into the particulars and the details of it. How do you feel right
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  now about this Bill's team as it currently sits going into the twenty twenty four
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  season. We saw a mass exodus before free agency started, and some of
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  that was you know, schematic, base and usage based, some of it
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  was financial. There was a lot of emotion tied to it for fans and
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  also some on field aspects for fans, there was a lot to you know,
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  digest and dissect when it came to all the players that left this team.
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  We've seen some players come in, obviously at this point, not as
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  many as the head as had left. Where are you right now on this
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  Bill's roster? How do you feel? Are you worried? Are you pleasantly
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  surprised? Are you whelmed and just sitting on the fence? Where are you
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  right now? I'm whelmed. I'm not overwhelmed. I'm not underwhelmed. I'm
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  whelmed because that's what you can do in Europe. And so for me,
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  when I look at this Buffalo Bills team, the big thing for me is
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  I really try hard not to look around the league and go, well,
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  everybody else got better, because all the people who got markedly better were teams
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  that were bad. The way it works in the NFL free agency, the
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  places where teams get better are the teams who have a lot of money to
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  spend early, and the teams who have a lot of money to spend early
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  are the bad teams, like the way it works in Washington, like the
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  Panthers in Washington and the Jets. Right, So when I look at this
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  team, I go, Okay, where are the Bills currently? Knowing that
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  we are okay, this is really important. We are two weeks into player
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  acquisition phase of the NFL season. I know it feels like it's over.
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  Okay, we are two weeks into the player acquisition phase of the offseason.
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  We have months to ago. The best free agent signing that Brandon Bean made
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  last year was made in the summer. So I think that when I look
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  at this team. I think, where are the currently worse than they were
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  two and a half weeks ago? And I would say this, I think
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  right now they're worse on the interior offensive line. Also think they're worse at
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  safety. I think they're better at wide receiver. I think it's a push
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  at linebacker. I think it's a push at defensive end. And I think
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  you need bodies at defensive tackle. But overall average talent standpoint, if that's
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  all you're doing, if you're not talking about bodies at all, right,
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  we're not talking about bodies. We're just going average talent per position already filled.
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  Right, So if you have two positions filled and it's a five and
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  a three, that the average is four, the fact that you need bodies
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  doesn't change that. It's just an average talent. So from an average talent
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  standpoint, I think you're better at wide receiver. I think it's a push
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  at linebacker. I think you're worse at safety. I think it's a push
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  at quarterback. I mean it's fine. So for me, the only logical
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  way to look at that is to be whelmed, because I don't think you
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  can reasonably look at offensive line and feel better than you did two and a
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  half weeks ago. I don't think that's fair because if you're only looking at
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  the five, then you're still gonna take that average down, and if you're
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  looking at the entire depth, you're going okay. Backup center, Alec Anderson,
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  we feel good about backup right guard is currently Kevin Jarvis, because you
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  know that's a thing. And your backup right tackles Tommy Doyle, your backup
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  left tackles Ryan Vandermark. You really you'll you're negative too, an interior offensive
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  lineman with Miss Morris and Ryan Bates being gone. So for me, I
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  don't think it's reasonable for you to say, yeah, we're totally better,
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  because I mean, you less to starter and everybody stepped up one. So
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  if you lose a starter who is playing at a high level and everybody just
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  slides over, it's a little bit like how Jerry Seinfeld made that stand up
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  comedy about why all the men at a wedding dress the same. Oh I
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  haven't heard this one, so he goes, So I was, so I
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  was wearing the talks you know the boy a piece of clothing that is obviously
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  invented by a woman. Well, they're all the same. Let's just dress
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  them all the same. And that's the reason why we all wear the same
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  thing. It's because if the groom doesn't show off the wedding, everybody just
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  takes one step over and we just keep going. That's why they don't say
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  do you take John Smith? They say do you take this man? That's
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  good, right, That's the way I feel about the offensive line. You
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  lost the groom, which was Mitch Morse, and everybody just took one step
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  over. So I don't think you can feel good about it when it comes
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  to safety. Even if you thought that Micah Hyde and Jordan Ployer weren't as
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  effective last year as they have been, which I think is true, you
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  still can't look at this and go yeah, cam Lewis Taylor rap, I
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  feel amazing, let's go like. I just I don't think that's fair.
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  So I think it's fair to look at those areas and go yeah. I
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  think it's probably a step down right now from where we were two and a
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  half weeks ago. But I like Colonel Samuel better than Gave Davis, and
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  that's just I have for a while now. That's not a hot take.
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  I don't think I think a lot of people probably prefer Curtis Samuel to gave
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  Davis. So for me, I think that when you look at this roster
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  and you average that out, it's completely fair for us to just be whelmed.
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  Yeah, I think that's fair and the biggest the biggest concern for me
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  as far as and I don't want to say too much because I don't want
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  to spoil any of my answers going forward, but the offensive line one still
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  worries me a bit. And even your point there where you're saying like you're
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  at negative two, even though Edwards came back, obviously, I still almost
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  argue you're at like a negative three because you lost Morse, you lost Bates,
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  and you also lost Edwards. As far as like a super sub,
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  you had this starting five offensive line that did very well in twenty twenty three,
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  And for me, I did an episode shortly after the Bills lost in
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  the playoffs with the Chiefs. I did an episode focused on like what do
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  the Bills have to do to get past the Chiefs or get out of the
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  AFC, Like what do they have to do to get over the hump?
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  And I mentioned multiple things that they had to go out and acquire or do
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  or change. But I also mentioned some pieces that they could hang their hat
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  on. It was already setting themselves up for success. One of those pieces
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  was the offensive line. I was like, they finally have this really good
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  offensive line in terms of pass pro and in terms of run blocking. They
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  can run gap, they can run zone. They have enough combination of athleticism
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  and physicality. It was a piece I was hanging my hat on. And
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  that wasn't even including or focusing too much on the super sub depth you had
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  at Ryan Bates and David Edwards and so now, yeah, you have Edwards
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  as a starter and McGovern kicking over to center potential, but you lost Morts,
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  you lost Baits, And for me, even maybe it's because I'm pessimistic
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  here or worried about it, but I'd even say, like, okay,
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  like you also lost Edwards as that super subtype of guy. Now he probably
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  doesn't come back, or maybe he doesn't come back if he's not going to
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  be a potential starter. Maybe he's not coming back from the same role as
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  last year. So maybe it is more of a plus than a loss.
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  But that one really and I don't want to say too much about the other
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  because I don't want to spoil anything, but that's one that I'm still I
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  talked about it with Joe Marino last week. I just really thought, I
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  know, the conversation all year was like, oh, you could cut Mitch
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  Morris, you can cut Mitch Morse, you could cut Mitch Morse. And
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  I was like, I don't want to do that. And then they traded
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  Baits and I would I would have bet my life, like all joke and
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  like not even speaking in hyperbole, I would have literally bet my life that
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  once the Bills traded Ryan Bates, that guaranteed that Mitch Morse was staying.
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  So to see him go. I'm still like, I'm still flabbergasted and kind
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  of shocked by I'm just not a fan. I just I'm just not a
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  fan. I just here. Here's what it is is that if you look
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  around the NFL, okay, there was a significant problem getting quality offensive lineman
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  and you hot it and you just let it go. You chose there are
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  other options. They didn't have to do these things. Yes, So for
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  me, they chose to do these things. And the fact that they chose
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  to do these things means it was the preferable option when it comes to clearing
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  salary cap space versus something like restructuring Stefon Diggs, which, mind you,
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  I didn't really want to do this offseason. I've said that before. I
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  didn't want to restructures Stefon Diggs. So I was stuck between a rock and
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  a hard place. Because if they sat there and told me, Bruce,
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  you have to either restructure Stefon Diggs or you have to cut Mitch Morse,
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  I would say I choose death, right. I mean, I choose right.
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  I choose death at this point. So for me, I'm just I'm
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  just upset about it. Right. I wish there was another way to have
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  achieved what they wanted to achieve without giving up something that they worked so hard
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  to achieve and it's so hard to hold on to. That's what I wish
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  they finally got that, like offense, that's that solidification at offensive line and
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  not having a yeah well. There were so many like yeah butts or yeah
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  wells when it came to the offensive line and they finally got it, and
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  like, I'm just I'm still I'm like annoyed by it and like angered by
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  it. I was like, man, offensive line, like just hang that
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  hat right on it, and no, nonetheless, but here we are maybe
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  we'll speak about offensive line in our priority rankings. But Bruce, let's let's
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  move forward here to the crux of this episode, the main course of this
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  episode, and that is, you know, addressing the buffalo bills, positions
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  of need, priority ranking, the positions of need that need to be addressed,
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  how they should be a breadth addressed, targets going forward, pads going
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  forward, all of these pieces, and Bruce, you spoke on it before
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  we went offline, put into perspective for the people how we're going to go
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  about this year, because we're going to rank the positions of need. We
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  each have five on a scale of one to ten, ten being this is
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  urgent, this has to happen right now. Everything is on fire. We
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  need to put it out. One being and like, yeah, it'd be
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  nice, but it doesn't really matter. We don't care. You had a
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  nice piece of how you tiered things, So why don't you walk to people
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  through your mindset and just kind of put into perspective what we're going to be
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  doing here, because you articulated it very well while we were offline. So
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  I really think that you asking me to intelligently say the same thing twice is
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  just too much, I think for you to have asked of me, I
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  just I don't think that's fair of you to no, I'm just kidding.
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  So I think that when you talk about the word need, that's not enough
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  on its own. I don't think it's enough to say you have a need
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  at wide receiver. And I think we need to get a handle on discussions
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  as a football community of going one step deeper than positional needs, because I
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  think that's a quick way to lead to miscommunications and conversations which inevitably needs leads
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  to conflict in communications where there doesn't need to be. So when I say
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  the Bills have a need at wide receiver, what you should say first to
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  me is say more about that. Tell me more, talk more, elaborate
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  more. And of course I'd be more than happy to do it, because
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  I you know, I do a podcast for a little bit, because you're
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  Pruce. I obviously I'm completely cool talking by myself for twenty minutes out into
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  the ether and having no idea if anybody who actually listens. So for me,
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  when it comes to wide receiver, it's not do you need a wide
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  receiver, it's what do you need the wide receiver four? It's not do
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  you need a safety, it's what do you need the safety? Four?
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  So I think that helps you tier it because you okay, we haven't needed
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  safety. Cool. What kind of need? Do you have a starter?
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  Do you have two starters? Do you need a backup? Do you need
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  multiple backups? Do you need a future starter? Do you need two future
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  starters? That right there immediately makes the conversation ten times better because that helps
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  you rank these things. Because if you say I need two immediate starters,
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  and then for something else you say I need one future starter, Well,
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  that that makes that tiering really easy because the one you just said you need
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  two immediate stars on that's more important. RODERI. That makes the teering very
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  easy, and it takes you one step past the positions of desire, as
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  Jason says, very good, right, which I really like. So for
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  me, that's the way that you can help parse out not only somebody else's
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  needs ranking, but your own as well. Yes, very well said,
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  very well said yeah, and I like that, and Jason tremendous with positions
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  of desire. Yeah, you I had it kind of broken down, but
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  you said it so old, and I had the faith in you to kind
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  of articulate it well twice, and you did, and you broke it down
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  very well. I'm not surprised you did fantastic. So Bruce, we'll start
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  with you. Floor is yours. Because you are the guest. You can
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  go whichever order you want. You can pick the least important or the least
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  urgent, you can pick the highest. You can pick whichever one you think
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  it should be talked about the most, or whichever one you're focused on the
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  most, even though it's maybe ranked in the middle. However you want to
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  start, the floor is yours. I'm going to start with my highest okay,
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  and it's Safety, and I ranked it a six okay out of ten.
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  The reason why I ranked it a six out of ten is because,
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  in my opinion, you need a starter, you need a backup, and
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  you need a hedge. So I was not overly impressed with Taylor Rapp last
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  year for the Buffalo Bills. I was much more impressed with him as a
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  starter and a meaningful player where he got more snaps for the Rams. Like
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  I was excited about his addition, and then he didn't. It just didn't
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  quite land the way I wanted it to. So for me, that's your
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  hedge. Then I don't feel super comfortable going in with just cam Lewis.
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  I think we've seen a lot of cam Lewis. This is not a Terrell
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  Bernard situation. Terrell Bernard was a completely unknown The guy played like nine snaps,
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  right, We were all obsessing over this one game he played into twenty
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  two, going into twenty twenty three, going what can I parse from these
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  seven snaps that he has from this game to this game against the Jets?
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  Yeah, oh my god, what is he gonna be this exactly? It's
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  just I'm just gonna watch these same snaps over and over and over and over
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  and over again. And so for me, it's not a situation like that.
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  We have a lot of data on cam Lewis. He has been on
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  this team for a long time. Is there a chance that he somehow becomes
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  a solid starting safety? Sure, but I don't want to bank on that
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  at all. I think it would be an outlier if that ended up being
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  the case. Now, it doesn't mean it's not possible, it means it's
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  not probable. So for me, when I look at safety and I say
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  six, it's because you need a starter because I don't feel strongly about going
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  in with cam Lewis. You need to backup because you just have numbers problems
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  right now. Kendall Williamson is safety four and and you need a hedge because
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  I'm not sure how I feel about Taylor round the overall, I feel very
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  unsettled at the safety position entirely. You have DeMar Hamlin, you have Kendall
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  Williamson, you have Taylor Rapp, you have Cam Lewis. Do any of
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  those people make you feel really good? Like I? I just don't feel
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  great about any of that stuff now. I do want to caveat that.
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  The reason why it's a six, even though I just made it sound like
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  it's extremely dire and it's not like an eight, is because of Sean McDermott.
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  Okay, Sean McDermott is Moses and safeties. The guy can get water
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  out of a rock, and the reason why he can do that is because
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  he has a magic rod, a safety rod. He does the safety dance,
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  and then he smacks the rod with the rock with the rod and it
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  comes the water comes out. That's the way it works, right A miracle
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  worker that he has been over the course of his career. When it comes
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  to safeties, is I mean well documented. The Bills have always gotten good
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  safety play, The Carolina Panthers always got to good safety play, the Philadelphia
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  Eagles before that always got good safety play. It doesn't really matter who they
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  plug in there. So that's the reason why it's not an eight. So
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  yes, I just made it sound incredibly dire. It's still only a six
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  because I have that nice little Trump card in my back pocket where I think
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  that he can do a good job of hiding things like that. Very fair,
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  Very fair. I also had safety on my list. I'll speak about
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  it and then we can each go into how we would like that position to
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  be addressed. I had it as a seven, and I had it as
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  a seven. Kind of wanted it to be higher, so you know,
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  you kind of said, like, you know the reason I have it as
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  a six and not an eight. I thought of putting it as an eight,
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  when the reason I kept it as a seven was a similar thinking to
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  yours. I trust McDermott with the kind of he could put one of us
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  out there at safety and probably get a good chunk out of it from us.
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  Also that crept into my heads. I remember your tweet earlier this week
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  or last week when you said you were like, because they haven't done anything,
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  like you were going to be the starting safety for the Buffalo Bills,
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  which I thought was very good. So I trust McDermott to get the most
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  blood out of the safety stone. But also the reason why I don't I
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  don't feel too panicked with it is because I trust McDermott to get so much
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  blood out of the stone, and also because I think there's multiple paths to
• 22:23
  making me feel a little bit better in free agency and potentially in the draft
• 22:27
  as well. Before we get into the target piece, I'll let you go
• 22:30
  with your targets first or kind of how we would go about addressing this.
• 22:34
  I do second the notion on Taylor Rap I'm holding judgment or I'm keeping my
• 22:41
  thoughts on Taylor Rap reserve, which I guess this kind of shows what I
• 22:45
  think of Taylor Rap. I'm keeping my true thoughts on him to myself until
• 22:49
  I see what safety he's paired with. I just it going from Poyer and
• 22:57
  Hide again in their prime to even when what they were these past several years
• 23:02
  were kind of showing more miles on the tires. That interchangeability, you know,
• 23:06
  being able to remove the strong end the free basically from a safety.
• 23:10
  Yes, Hide was more center field type and Poyer was you know, more
• 23:12
  down and around the box in terms of skill set, but they each really
• 23:15
  were pretty interchangeable in terms of what you could do with them. I feel
• 23:18
  like Taylor Rapp is a move towards more of putting the strong label on someone
• 23:23
  and you know, kind of eck with your point of When he came over
• 23:26
  from the Rams, I was excited for him in sub package rolls and what
• 23:30
  you could do. The first game I went to was the Super Bowl against
• 23:33
  the Bengals, I said on last week's show, because he wasn't the starter
• 23:37
  down the stretch, they signed Eric Weddle, like literally off his couch and
• 23:40
  it was Eric Weddle and Nick Scott who were the starting safeties to the Rams.
• 23:42
  They used Taylor rap as this third down apex box roll and he's in
• 23:47
  the Super Bowl like literally covering down and nailing down on Jamar Chase and blanketing
• 23:52
  him and giving him no room to breathe. And I was like, oh,
• 23:53
  this is a cool, like subset type of piece. I don't think
• 23:57
  he has horrible range, but I don't love his range as like a single
• 24:02
  high post safety and I'm like, okay, like you can live into high
• 24:04
  coverage is with the Bills, which the Bills do a bunch. They play
• 24:07
  cover four quarters and Cover two and Tampa two and Cover six and all this
• 24:11
  kind of stuff. But given where he's best suited to go in terms of
• 24:15
  succeeding or in and on the field, I'm really kind of I'm either gonna
• 24:22
  feel worse about Taylor Rap depending on who they bring in as the other starting
• 24:26
  safety, or I'm gonna feel better depending on who the other starting safety is,
• 24:29
  which, again I think tells you a bit about Taylor Rap that how
• 24:33
  I potentially feel about him is dependent upon his dance partner at that safety spot.
• 24:38
  But again trust to McDermott, and for me it's a seven. If
• 24:41
  it was purely just like in terms of availability and how this position could be
• 24:45
  addressed, it might be higher because to your point, you have no starter.
• 24:49
  You need a hedge. I like the idea of needing a hedge,
• 24:52
  and no disrespect to anybody else. I like cam Lewis's depth, but for
• 24:56
  safety and Nickel and even some outside corner variability, but I don't want him
• 25:00
  starting regularly. I never thought. I thought Hamlin showed some flashes, but
• 25:04
  I thought the ceiling is an every downstarter, regular starter, wasn't there.
• 25:08
  We literally don't know anything about Kendall Williamson. So exactly your point, you
• 25:11
  need a starter. Ideally you need a hedge, but worst case scenario,
• 25:15
  you need a starter and then some maybe potentially higher to your depth at that
• 25:21
  spot. So I'm in a very similar boat. Just you know, one
• 25:22
  point difference in our rankings when you think about trying to fill this spot is
• 25:26
  are you looking towards free agency? Are you looking towards the draft or both?
• 25:30
  And who are some names or guys that you like. My leaning is
• 25:34
  more toward free agency than it is in the draft, and the reason is
• 25:38
  because I think there are still people out there right The Buffalo Bills have been
• 25:41
  linked to both Julian Blackman and Mike Edwards, both of whom would cause me
• 25:45
  to do this, Okay, like we have a veteran safety who knows what
• 25:52
  they're doing, who's you know, Like I feel fine, and actually this
• 25:56
  is weird when it comes to Julian Blackman, because Julian Blackman played a lot
• 26:00
  of snaps in the slot last year for the Colts. He had way more.
• 26:04
  He had double if you add his box snaps and his slot snaps together,
• 26:08
  he had double those versus his deep safety snaps. Deep safety had like
• 26:14
  three hundred and eight and box plus slot he had like six hundred and forty
• 26:17
  three. Sorry, right, So he's much more of a slot in a
• 26:19
  box guy. But this is where I'm I'm zigging when other people were zagging.
• 26:25
  Micah Hyde was a slot defender in a hybrid role for the Green Bay
• 26:30
  Packers. He was basically like he was basically like a slot and a pun
• 26:33
  returner, right, and he flashed this awareness level that I think Blackman did
• 26:38
  too. Now, and if you know anything about the Colts, and I'm
• 26:41
  sure that your viewers and listeners are extremely well versed in this because they you
• 26:47
  know, coverages, it's it's the sky's coverage. It's coverage right here,
• 26:52
  it's Anthony Parowska, the Colts, Gus Bradley, it's their defensive coordor.
• 26:55
  Gus Bradley is the king of cover three, right, I mean everything is
• 26:57
  cover three rushed four. I mean everything, Like just it's hilarious how far
• 27:03
  they lean into cover three rush four. It's just astounding. And so because
• 27:07
  of that, you end up with a lot of single high There were some
• 27:10
  snaps that ended up with him being a single high player, and I really
• 27:18
  liked what I saw. Oh and I said, listen, I know that
• 27:21
  you got utilized as a box defender, as a slot defender. I think
• 27:26
  there's something there, Like, I think there's something there that can be tapped
• 27:30
  into. I know that it's a little bit of a miscast and it's a
• 27:34
  little bit of a projection when I say, hey, I want to take
• 27:38
  this guy who play a lot of his snaps in the box and in the
• 27:42
  slot, and I want to have him be my guide, right, But
• 27:47
  I'm telling you, I think there's something there. So for me when I
• 27:51
  look at Blackman and I think I would just feel a lot better when it
• 27:55
  comes to this, how did Green Bay so foolishly underestimate MICA's baltr racking center
• 28:00
  feeling deep ball defending. As a comment from Elizabeth Hogan, I'm gonna go
• 28:04
  ahead and throw this out there. Defensive backs who return punts have an upper
• 28:10
  leg on everybody. M and We never talk about it because it doesn't happen
• 28:15
  that often. There's not a lot of safeties defensive back who return punts.
• 28:18
  When you see that they do, that's ball tracking, like all the same
• 28:25
  spatial awareness. I don't know if you've ever tried shag punts before, Anthony,
• 28:27
  Have you ever sat back and try to shag a punt or two?
• 28:30
  Yeah? I return punts at high school. Okay, oh, this is
• 28:33
  perfect. This is absolutely perfect. It's unbelievably difficult, isn't it. Like
• 28:37
  everyone thinks it's so easy. Like when the ball goes up and you have
• 28:41
  no idea how to track it, and you got to make sure you're like
• 28:45
  just catching it is a huge victory at lower level. And then you're doing
• 28:51
  it with like dudes running down on you like full speed, wanting to you're
• 28:56
  completely vulnerable because you have to track the ball and there's a good chance that
• 28:59
  once you catch it, your debt and then have to mention like what happens
• 29:03
  if it's rainy, what happens if it's a little windy, what happens if
• 29:06
  it bounces? Like you got to give your poison call to make sure nobody's
• 29:07
  around it and doesn't touch anybody. Ask the forty nine ers about that in
• 29:11
  the Super Bowl. Yeah, I don't tell them up. We're gonna pretent
• 29:15
  like that didn't happen in the forty nine ers one and the Chiefs didn't get
• 29:17
  another time. I wish, But I think that there's something there, and
• 29:22
  I think that's the reason why they didn't necessarily draw the correlation between his value
• 29:26
  as a deep safety, because I don't think a lot of people draw the
• 29:29
  correlation between butt restern skills and spatial awareness as a deep middle safety. And
• 29:36
  I think that there is something there because Michael Hide was never an elite athlete.
• 29:40
  It was about spatial awareness and ball trucking. Ask Mac Jones, how
• 29:44
  do you feel about that? Damn? So for me, I think that
• 29:48
  you can see flashes of that kind of thing. And I would like to
• 29:52
  move toward free agency to fill this need because I think in this Sean McDermott
• 29:56
  defense, a veteran is really important in that role. Now, if you
• 30:03
  want to go ahead and fill it with a versatile player through the draft,
• 30:07
  might I suggest Javon Bullard If you want versatility from a from a program,
• 30:14
  I mean Georgia cranks out defensive backs and just I mean really good players in
• 30:18
  general. But if you want versatility, if that's what you're going for,
• 30:22
  you want someone who can be interchangeable, you want someone who can do a
• 30:26
  little bit of everything, then Javon Bullard's probably my guy. Now you know
• 30:30
  how I feel about cam Kinchins. I love the fact that he ran in
• 30:33
  the four fives as his UH at his pro day because I said, we
• 30:37
  backman with so not Jakwon Johnson. He's not ta Kwan Johnson. He's better
• 30:42
  than Jakwan Johnson. Because if you remember anything about me, I loved Jakwan
• 30:45
  Johnson's film coming out, and I was just like, he's just too bad
• 30:48
  of an athlete. I'm sorry, like he's too like he's just too limited
• 30:52
  an athlete. But I loved watching him. And now I got another safety
• 30:56
  coming from Miami who doesn't run a good four and I'm like, no,
• 31:00
  you're gonna do it to me again. But that would be my preference.
• 31:04
  I prefer free agency if you have to go to the draft. I have
• 31:07
  a couple of guys I like, but ultimately I think that's the kind of
• 31:10
  player I like to see addressed in free agency. Similar Boute for me,
• 31:14
  I think I think free agency is my prime choice right now, mainly just
• 31:18
  with how not getting that third round comp pick, and I think with how
• 31:22
  the safety class is gonna show out in terms of where where dudes go on
• 31:26
  the board. So I'll start with the free agents. I'm I'm swinging for
• 31:29
  the top first in free agency. Ideally, give me Justin Simmons or a
• 31:36
  sneaky one who I think I might even like more than Justin Simmons. I
• 31:38
  spent a good chunk of time last week just watching Quandre Diggs film. I
• 31:45
  really like Quandre Diggs, like from a range perspective, from a juice perspective,
• 31:52
  and from a tenacity perspective. I just think he would add so much.
• 31:56
  He if to me is that is an ideal pairing with with Taylor Rap,
• 32:00
  just because of the ground he can cover, how he fits the run
• 32:02
  from depth, how aggressive he is. Again, it's it's a mentality piece
• 32:06
  as well, like he this phrase is used way too much nowadays, but
• 32:07
  he's like he's got that dog in I'm like, he just plays with bite
• 32:10
  and edge and tenacity and then he's got the range. Like the fitting the
• 32:15
  run from depth is something I wasn't prepared for. Like he's there, you
• 32:19
  know, fitting in the hole against Joe Mixon and like picking him up and
• 32:22
  dumping him on his head, like and just what he's doing. I really
• 32:24
  would love Kuandre Diggs. Let me ask you a question, Yes, Simmons
• 32:29
  and Diggs, how do you feel about replacing a thirty plus year old safety
• 32:32
  with thirty plus year old safety? And that's so that's the thing, like,
• 32:36
  if I'm doing that, then I'm taking a safety more of like a
• 32:39
  quote unquote developmental safety on day three or some sort of aspect. Because if
• 32:45
  you're signing Simmons or you're signing Digs, Diggs is thirty one, Simmons is
• 32:49
  thirty. Simmons is probably getting a two year deal, Digs potentially a two
• 32:53
  year, maybe a one year, and then like are you back in this
• 32:55
  boat again next year or the year after. Simmons from twenty twenty three is
• 33:00
  still good, but there are reps where you can see where he's kind of
• 33:04
  lost a step, but he he's so smart from the shoulders up. Well,
• 33:07
  that's where you have to be smart, because that's whe your brain is.
• 33:09
  I personally smarten my left elbow. That's what I was gonna say,
• 33:13
  like my left ankle, super smart and well educated, the smartest of left
• 33:16
  elbow, the smartest of the people's elbow. Oh well done, well done.
• 33:22
  We're nowhere to go. But down from here shows over, Thank you
• 33:23
  very much. He he processes so well and he reathes so well in his
• 33:29
  eyes and his anticipation. Everything that you need mentally in a safety from a
• 33:32
  football IQ standpoint, Justin Simmons has and then then you add in the ball
• 33:37
  skills and just all the plays and all that kind of stuff. Like So,
• 33:39
  I don't love the idea of replacing, you know, a thirty year
• 33:43
  old safety with another thirty year old safety, but I do if I pair
• 33:46
  it with And here's kind of where I look towards in the draft. If
• 33:50
  I'm not getting one of those safeties in free agency and we're going into the
• 33:54
  draft with the same safety grouping on the board right now that exists right now,
• 34:00
  I'm looking towards Tyler Newman from Minnesota, I'm looking towards Cam Kitchens,
• 34:04
  and I'm looking towards Javon Boler. Those are my top three safeties on the
• 34:06
  board. I'm going to continue to speak about Cam Kitchens until the cows come
• 34:09
  home. I have a ton of I've watched so many of his game.
• 34:12
  I'm a huge Miami guy, and I never thought Jawan Johnson would succeed in
• 34:15
  the NFL, to your point, because of the athletic limitations. Even though
• 34:19
  I loved him at Miami, Cam Kitchens, even when he ran that four
• 34:22
  six five point forty, I didn't care because he doesn't play like a four
• 34:27
  to six y five forty safety. There's and if anybody wants to go,
• 34:30
  go watch the interception against Louisville where he's playing single high safety and he's in
• 34:34
  the post and the quarterback throws a seam ball and he goes from the middle
• 34:37
  of the field to outside the numbers in an instant and picks off that ball.
• 34:42
  And it's not a late throw, it's not a poorly thrown ball.
• 34:45
  He reads it and he jumps in. My biggest concern with Cam Kitchens is
• 34:47
  that sometimes he goes rogue and he trusts his instincts and kind of plays a
• 34:52
  little He does like and I'm not making this comp at all, but he
• 34:55
  does some of that Troy Polamalu stuff without the benefit like Paalamala would go rogue
• 35:00
  and make this amazing play. Kitchens goes rogue at times and puts himself way
• 35:05
  out of positions. Yes, that's exactly right, good call, but the
• 35:09
  skill set is there completely. I never doubted the range. I like that
• 35:13
  he ran in the mid four fives that are proag Granted, proa times can
• 35:15
  be wonky, but the tape I don't care. It's solid. I feel
• 35:20
  similar about Tyler Nuban, and I like the bullet point. I like Bullard
• 35:23
  because you get somebody from Georgia match coverage guy variety of coverage on the back
• 35:29
  end also has that slot and that apex versatility with what you can do and
• 35:34
  with Kitchens and Bullard. What's also interesting Bill's cornerbacks. Jami Daie coached Javon
• 35:38
  Bullard a couple of years ago at Georgia, coached Camp Kitchens the past couple
• 35:43
  of years at Miami, so he knows these guys very, very very well,
• 35:45
  which is interesting. So if I'm not getting a Simmons or Digs or
• 35:50
  even some of the lower tier safeties for me in free agency, Mike Edwards
• 35:52
  or Julian Blackman, if I'm not getting one of those starters, you have
• 35:55
  to prioritize one of the top safeties in the draft, which sucks because it
• 36:00
  means you probably got to do it in around one or two, which I
• 36:01
  don't love. I would have loved to doing in around three. But also
• 36:07
  within that if you get one of those older safeties, if you get Simmons,
• 36:10
  if you get digs Hell, even if you get Julian I like Julian
• 36:14
  Blackman. I'm whelmed by him. I don't love him, but what I
• 36:17
  also like the idea of if you're not going with one of like the higher
• 36:20
  ranked safeties early to be your immediate day one starter, I like getting a
• 36:23
  Simmons or a digs or Hell, even you at Edwards, Julian Blackman,
• 36:29
  some known quantity floor level safety and then taking someone on day three like Jalen
• 36:36
  Simpson from Auburn who I love, and Malice Mustafa potentially from Wake Forest.
• 36:42
  Jalen Simpson is one who multiple years starting a corner for Auburn, just moved
• 36:45
  to safety this past year Foreign Receptions. His tape in twenty twenty three is
• 36:50
  some of my favorite tape of anybody. He's breaking on brock Bowers and ripping
• 36:54
  balls away from brock Bowers he's driving on maleak neighbors and beating into the spot.
• 37:00
  His quickness and his eyes and his anticipation processing and understanding of safety.
• 37:07
  Having only one year of starting safety experience, I was floored to see him
• 37:12
  playing the way he was and being like, man, this is his first
• 37:15
  year starting at safety and again doing it in the SEC against top tier competition.
• 37:19
  Biggest knock for him. He's one hundred and seventy eight pounds, but
• 37:22
  he can fly runs in the four fours. So I'd love to take an
• 37:25
  older safety to start this year, or of high floor safety that's a known
• 37:30
  quantity. And then I'm taking Jalen Simpson and I'm trying to see if I
• 37:34
  can push him up the one ninety as much as I can with his frame,
• 37:37
  letting him continue to learn that safety spot, and then he's that guy
• 37:39
  waiting in the wings in year two or potentially year three. But again,
• 37:44
  you can kind of there's a lot of puzzle pieces you can put together at
• 37:46
  this safety spot, as we've kind of outlined a little bit, which is
• 37:50
  the reason why it's not crazy high for me or I'm super terribly worried,
• 37:53
  like it's a need because you need to start or a hedge and ideally a
• 37:57
  functional depth spot. But there's so many ways to go about in free agency
• 38:01
  or the draft, and a combination of free agency and the draft. Charles
• 38:07
  asked in the comment section, how do you feel about Kaylen Bullock and Jayden
• 38:09
  Hicks so you can you can shine in if you like here. Kaylan Bullock
• 38:15
  is to safety what Dorian Williams is the linebacker. He runs really fast and
• 38:22
  I'm not entirely sure he knows where he's going. That's funny. So it's
• 38:25
  not athleticism, it's not physical skills. It's recognition and instincts and awareness.
• 38:31
  And I think he's a project. I think you draft him and you put
• 38:37
  him on special teams. Seaball, get ball right, run really fast at
• 38:39
  that guy and try and tackle him, and that'll help get him on the
• 38:43
  roster right away. But I think he needs a lot of processes. I
• 38:45
  feel better about Jaden Hicks as a player who can come in and start for
• 38:50
  you Earlier. I would have liked to have seen speed stuff for Jaden Hicks.
• 38:55
  That was a and his tape the games I watched for him at why
• 39:00
  in State. It's not that they didn't like it, but he everything I
• 39:02
  kept seeing. He has one really good rep against Washington where he's playing split
• 39:07
  field safety and he intercepts Pennix on a throw I think it's too Jalen Polk,
• 39:13
  and he covers it really well beat y, yeah, rips it away
• 39:15
  from him the catch point like twenty thirty yards downfield. Pretty much everything else
• 39:20
  he's in the box, like over and over again. He's more box safety
• 39:22
  and apex type of dude. Like they use him almost as like a quasi
• 39:27
  linebacker safety. Then they do a rangey deep safety and it's one of those
• 39:31
  scenarios where I think that if you if you think that, if you think
• 39:37
  Taylor Rap is not going to be Jordan Poyer, right, if you think
• 39:40
  Taylor Rap is somehow gonna be a you know, a guy who's gonna be
• 39:45
  covering deep metal for you. I know there's been some rumors that Buffalo Bills
• 39:47
  want to play more man and they want to play more single high this year.
• 39:51
  Again just rumors, right, Yeah, But if that's the case and
• 39:53
  you don't want Rap to be that guy, then I think that that Hicks
• 39:57
  is a reasonable middle round safety for that kind of thing. But based on
• 40:01
  just propensity to start right now if you put them in the right role.
• 40:06
  I'm taking Hicks at this point over. And I just don't trust Kaylen Bullock's
• 40:12
  tackling. And it's not because of that one clip against Utah two years ago
• 40:14
  like his I just I just don't trust you trust anybody on the USC defense
• 40:17
  and tackling. And that's I want anybody at all a statement, But like,
• 40:22
  no, I don't like. I just all I remember is oh,
• 40:27
  and I'm forgetting his name. Is this mad complicated at the edge from USC
• 40:30
  last year who went to the Chargers and had the pre suite, who twee
• 40:35
  hyeah plow two. So yeah, there is there is there. That's it.
• 40:38
  I watched a bunch of his game tape last year because I liked him
• 40:40
  at edge, and I just remember like Bullock just missing tackles and missing tackles
• 40:46
  and to your point, being like just looking like where is he going?
• 40:51
  And then he'll make a play as a post safety where he just he meets
• 40:55
  the wide receiver at the sideline and jumps and reads it perfectly. I'm like,
• 40:59
  oh, this is awesome. But that's more intermittent with all the other
• 41:01
  stuff. So like and I guess some of that you can coach. I
• 41:05
  just don't trust calean book. I put him in that same kind of developmental
• 41:08
  aspect. He's got the range and he's got some really great speed. I
• 41:12
  just don't trust him. Down in and down out we are. It's nine
• 41:16
  to forty three. We've gotten through one of the five things. I saw
• 41:20
  that. I just don't know what. This happens to us every time,
• 41:24
  Anthony, like every single time. And also peek behind the curtain, like
• 41:29
  Bruce is waxed and super tired. For regular listeners of the show, you
• 41:32
  know, two weeks ago, I was super sick, powered through last week,
• 41:37
  was at the tail end of it, but still didn't feel great.
• 41:38
  I was great over the weekend, and then yesterday I got like a one
• 41:42
  day sickness type of thing. I was knocked out yesterday from like twelve thirty
• 41:45
  until like nine o'clock at night. Wasn't feeling great. Now. I was
• 41:47
  like, you know what, Bruce and I will be done in about forty
• 41:50
  five minutes. I'm gonna end the show around one hour and we're done.
• 41:54
  Brucey, you get it's power through for a little bit more, okay to
• 41:57
  do That's do it. Let's doid all right, all right, So let's
• 41:59
  move past safety. In all fairness too, I blame the chat because the
• 42:02
  chat had a bunch of really a really did conver like conversation invoking comments,
• 42:07
  and so I mean, I know the chat is really rolling whenever the guest
• 42:12
  points out comments in the chat. So if anything, we should blame the
• 42:15
  chat for the reason why we're going along, aside from the fact that we
• 42:19
  always go a long. We always go along. But yet somehow it's still
• 42:22
  somebody else's fault. I think we've isolated the variable. Yeah, I think
• 42:25
  it's I don't think it's a chat. I think it's us. I'm not
• 42:28
  ready. I'm not ready to commit to that yet. And stephone has always
• 42:30
  blamed someone else until you really have to look inward. I admire that,
• 42:34
  man. That's what you know. I am. You'll point the finger.
• 42:36
  That's that's accountability. All right, let's move to the next position of need
• 42:42
  here. So safety was your one, what's the next one? You want
• 42:44
  to go with? Defensive tackle five? Defensive tackle five because if you just
• 42:52
  if you're just playing techno super Bowl, where of course the backups never come
• 42:57
  in, and techno super Bowl unless your player gets hurt like they just never
• 43:00
  in so you don't have to worry about It's fine. We're good. Got
• 43:01
  Daikon Jones, got Oliver, we're playing techno super Bowl. Everything's fine.
• 43:06
  But we're not playing techno super Bowl. And you rotate meaningfully on the defensive
• 43:10
  line. So you have right now at Oliver, you have Daikon Jones,
• 43:16
  you have Elianku Yep. That's it. So at the end of the that's
• 43:22
  it. I don't have it better like I'm not. I'm not pulling out
• 43:24
  a bunch of names. You don't know. I'm pulling out nothing. I'm
• 43:27
  reaching into my pocket and going nothing. And you remember when we tiered this,
• 43:30
  we talked about how much do you actually need? Right, and so
• 43:36
  with safety it was a starter, a hedge. A backup with this is
• 43:40
  you need probably two rotational players at defensive tackle. Yep. And I mean
• 43:47
  the Bills started with five last year. Historically they have carried four, but
• 43:52
  they started the season carrying five last year. You only have three on the
• 43:57
  roster. So oh yeah, that's what ends up with defensive tackle. There
• 44:02
  we go. So I echo all of your sentiments. I quantified it a
• 44:08
  little differently. I gave it an eight because of it being a premium position
• 44:15
  to me and the rotational aspect exactly your point. You got Dake one,
• 44:17
  you got ed, and you got Ilianku, and I like Ilianku, but
• 44:21
  I'm not ready to sit there and say he's interior defensive lineman three or four
• 44:25
  the Bill's defensive line. As do all defensive lines today in football college as
• 44:30
  well, you get rotated a ton rotational rotation, rotation. And it's also
• 44:34
  tremendously important that Bills again as it is to teams in general. That's how
• 44:37
  football is played nowadays. So your third and fourth interior defensive lineman, even
• 44:40
  though they're not quote unquote starters, they're still seeing a decent chunk of snaps.
• 44:45
  Like two years ago with Daikwon Jones playing the majority of this season,
• 44:50
  Jordan Phillips and Tim Settle saw thirty six percent and thirty percent of the snaps.
• 44:54
  I don't remember who was who witch is which, and that's with some
• 44:58
  like injury and some knots and stuff. So you're defensive tackle three is probably
• 45:00
  seen at least around forty percent of snaps went healthy and in a regular year,
• 45:07
  and the Bills only have they don't have quality or quantity across the group.
• 45:12
  You literally have three. Even if Elianku was a stud with no disrespect,
• 45:16
  we don't know if he is or he isn't right now because he's an
• 45:17
  unknown for the most part. Even if all three dudes you are super confident
• 45:22
  in ed de kwon Ilianku, you still need a fourth and then you still
• 45:25
  need depth in bodies after that. This position needs quality and it needs quantity.
• 45:30
  So that's why I put it as an eight. And then I also
• 45:32
  don't love the free agent options that are there, and I think based on
• 45:37
  where the Bills are in the draft in terms of how their picks lineup,
• 45:40
  I think he can be wonky and trying to get certain guys to fill certain
• 45:44
  spots, which we'll talk about in a minute with the targets. But I
• 45:46
  gave it an ag just because I think it's a premium position. It's a
• 45:50
  heavily rotated one and right now you basically have no defensive tackle three or defensive
• 45:53
  tackle four like that's And again, even if elean Ku, even if you're
• 45:58
  super confident, you're like, you know what, no, I think he
• 46:00
  can be a four or you're super super optimistic and you say, oh he
• 46:02
  can be a three. Cool, you still need another dude in your top
• 46:06
  four, and you still need bodies after that. So this group needs quality
• 46:10
  and quantity, and I'm very worried about it. But again, there are
• 46:15
  some options, even though it can be kind of wonky or hard to address
• 46:17
  it. If you're looking at solidifying or addressing that interior defensive line spot,
• 46:22
  Bruce, are you looking towards free agency? Are you looking towards the draft?
• 46:24
  Is it a combo of both? And who are some names on your
• 46:27
  radar? I think the available defensive tackles right now list is not inspiring right
• 46:37
  now? Great. I don't think you can look at this as a as
• 46:39
  a situation where we can we can plug what we need to do. I
• 46:44
  think once tr Tart and Austin Johnson I will hit. This will hit like
• 46:52
  a like a seven and eight for me. I keep thinking to myself one
• 46:55
  of them is going to be a bill. Like I keep thinking like Austin
• 47:00
  Johnson might be a bill. Oh that's one of my targets. Oh is
• 47:02
  it really? Yeah? Yeah? I had him? He was he two
• 47:07
  years ago. When the Bill is brought in daykuon he was right up there
• 47:09
  with Daiquon like coming from the Giants. I loved his tape he went to
• 47:13
  the Chargers. But I'm still on that Austin Johnson. But yeah, he's
• 47:15
  one of my tarts. So for me, I think Austin Johnson. Once
• 47:20
  Johnson and Tart go off the board, my concern starts, it starts going
• 47:28
  up a little bit because at that point, I just I don't feel really
• 47:31
  I don't feel really good about any of them. I mean, Curtis Brooks,
• 47:36
  is he moving the needle for anybody? Like you know? Uh?
• 47:39
  For you? Remember, I just I saw a name that I was going
• 47:42
  through on the free agent list, and it brought me back to like crazy,
• 47:47
  crazy draft discussions. When I say the name Marlon Davidson. What does
• 47:52
  that do to you? Anthony? You know what's funny is I was looking
• 47:58
  he was one of the names I looked at before, and it immediately brought
• 48:00
  me back to draft conversation and draft times. The amount of Auburn tape that
• 48:04
  I watched that offseason, just rivals like the Cam Newton years. It was
• 48:09
  absolutely insane. But for me, if you want a defensive tackle and Austin
• 48:15
  Johnson tier Tart are not going to be the guys. I I think he
• 48:20
  got a draft one. I think he got a draft one day two probably,
• 48:22
  And I know that's gonna upset people, but it's just the way it
• 48:27
  goes. I'm in a similar spot i free agency. I had Tart earmark,
• 48:36
  but I know he left under some weird circumstances with Tennessee and so I
• 48:38
  don't know if that knocks him out of out of consideration for the Bills potentially,
• 48:44
  but from a skill set perspective, yeah, it fits. So he's
• 48:47
  a name there. I like that you pulled that. Top free agent guys
• 48:50
  I'm looking at. I'm looking at Austin Johnson. I'm also looking at Jonathan
• 48:52
  Hankins from Dallas, who was absent for Dallas when the Bills ran all over
• 48:58
  them and was a huge reason why the Bill did run all over Dallas.
• 49:02
  And but again that's like that's like the top of like, oh man,
• 49:07
  this would be great, and I don't like, I don't love those moves.
• 49:10
  Those moves are cool and they're fine. Actually I do. I would
• 49:13
  really love Austin Johnson. But this is part of me still can like getting
• 49:15
  back into my mindset. Two years ago, Oh did Hankins sign today?
• 49:20
  Someone said the chat, I don't know if he signed, and then he
• 49:22
  signed today. I thought he did. I was I was literally looking for
• 49:24
  hank and signed with Seattle, all right, I was literally looking for it
• 49:28
  when you were talking to something like So now I'm gonna kick this up to
• 49:32
  an eight point two because I'm upset. All right, So Hankins is out,
• 49:37
  So Austin Johnson is a free agent aspect for me and anybody else.
• 49:39
  Really again, is it just a rotational body. I'm also blaming on myself
• 49:44
  being sick for not seeing Hankins, But that's side the point, Like the
• 49:47
  the opposite of free agency are slim. Even though there's a bunch of innate
• 49:52
  like bodies out there, the quality isn't really there. You're gonna have to
• 49:55
  address it in the draft. For me, if Byron Murphy or this is
• 50:00
  another one I've come around on, if Johnny Newton from Illinois is there at
• 50:04
  twenty eight. Initially, when Daikwon wasn't signed, I was like, you
• 50:07
  know what, it's too much position overdone. And see with Ed he's more
• 50:10
  three tech than he is one tech. You're not maximizing his skills set.
• 50:13
  By putting him at a one all the time, it wouldn't work. I've
• 50:16
  come around to the idea of him being on his bills team if he's there
• 50:21
  at twenty eight because of the resigning of Daikwon Jones. A top three of
• 50:27
  Daikwon Jones, Johnny Newton, and Ed Oliver would be absolutely tremendous. And
• 50:30
  then you're working in Newton more and known pass downs and passing situations with him
• 50:34
  and Ed on the inside, or just the schematic potential and possibilities and have
• 50:38
  it that you can cause up front from a penetration and gumming up the work
• 50:44
  standpoint with those three as your stop Daikwon, ed Oliver and Johnny Newton,
• 50:49
  I think would be tremendous. I don't think Newton's gonna fall to twenty eight,
• 50:51
  just like I don't think Byron Murphy's gonna fall to twenty eight. But
• 50:54
  this is where you start to get into that range, and having a third
• 50:57
  round pick really would have frigging help for this converse if you have to address
• 51:00
  defensive tackle and potentially address safety and potentially another spot which we'll talk about in
• 51:04
  a minute. But I'm looking at buyer Murphy, I'm looking at Johnny Newton,
• 51:07
  I'm looking at Brayden Fisk, Michael Hall junior from Ohio State. Yeah,
• 51:13
  I was, He's literally next. I sorry, Dwayne Carter. I
• 51:16
  also like the two Clemson boys, even though they weren't a ton of stunts
• 51:21
  and games up front, so it's hard to see like what they really truly
• 51:23
  look like in one on ones. But I like Tyler Davis from Clemson when
• 51:27
  I saw him at the Senior Bowl and then his running mate there rooke Arohuo.
• 51:31
  I know it sound like Scooby doo there, but that's how his name
• 51:35
  is said and pronounced. I'm taking one of them, like it's just it.
• 51:40
  Then it becomes like, Okay, where are you trying to get one?
• 51:45
  Because a lot of these guys Murphy, Newton, and Fisk are probably
• 51:50
  all gone by sixty. Maybe Fist potentially reaches there, maybe not, But
• 51:53
  then you're hoping, like, Okay, does Michael Hall fall? Does Dwayne
• 51:57
  Carter fall? Tyler Davis? Like Roupe, and a lot of it's going
• 52:00
  to be dependent on needs for teams to have a board falls, but like
• 52:04
  I feel like day three, you're gonna be looking at multiple interior defensive linemen
• 52:07
  or multiple defensive linemen in general, a lot of those picks unless they trade
• 52:10
  up and acquire a third round guy. And that's what kind of worries me,
• 52:14
  just like how I think the board is going to fall. The caliber
• 52:17
  of player that you're going to get on Day three worries me given the fact
• 52:22
  that you need two quality rotational bodies right now. To me, it's just
• 52:27
  we get to this point every draft season where I come around and I go,
• 52:30
  you know what the bill should do? They should just trade down.
• 52:34
  Yes, I've about that. I get to that point every single offseason when
• 52:38
  situations like this, especially when you really want a wide receiver and it's super
• 52:43
  deep at wide receiver, and you go trade down, You're still gonna get
• 52:46
  a great quality player there, and you can still pick up these other things.
• 52:51
  And that, of course, transitions really nicely into the next need that
• 52:57
  we have to talk about. Let's get to that next need. I'm stressed
• 53:01
  because of all the needs and all the spots, but at least we're going
• 53:05
  we're de escalating in terms of you know, worrisomeness and order and see,
• 53:07
  all right, Bruce, what's your third that you've got third is a tie,
• 53:12
  okay, And it's tied with the defensive tackle okay. And it's defensive
• 53:15
  tackle, defensive end, and wide receiver. We're all five. Oh okay,
• 53:20
  So defensive end is five for me. Because I'm not willing to bank
• 53:27
  on von Miller's very very small flash of effectiveness very very late in the year
• 53:32
  as something that is going to be projectable out into the future. I'm glad
• 53:38
  the Buffalo Bills resigned a Japanassa to a reasonable deal. I do think that
• 53:43
  he moved up a slot in the rotation, and I think that that's good.
• 53:46
  I do not think the efficiency is going to hold with greater volume,
• 53:51
  because it very rarely does in all aspects of life. Anyone who has dealt
• 53:53
  with any sort of stistical analysis will tell you that. And so for me,
• 54:00
  you got needs there. You know, Gregor Rousseau, you got to
• 54:04
  make a decision on a fifth year option. I think they're gonna I think
• 54:06
  they're gonna do it. But Gregory Rousseau was dealing with an injury of his
• 54:12
  own last year, and so do the Bills have anybody who scares you at
• 54:16
  this point? I don't think so. Yeah, And so for me.
• 54:23
  As long as the answer to that question is no, then defensive end being
• 54:28
  a premium position is going to matter. Now. Pete in the comment section
• 54:34
  said, this edge class is pretty putriot. I don't love this edge class.
• 54:37
  I gotta be honest. This is to me. This is a wide
• 54:38
  receiver and offensive lineman class. I think offensive linemen are are really really good.
• 54:45
  Yeah, everywhere in this class, interior and on the tackles, Like
• 54:47
  there's a bunch of quality dudes through all three days, which I think.
• 54:51
  It's a little bit like when you're you know, when you're really old and
• 54:54
  you start to get you get a rain and you go, ah, yeah,
• 54:59
  we really need this reign. Like that's how you know you're getting old.
• 55:01
  It's the same thing with offensive tackle classes and offensive guard classes. When
• 55:06
  you get a really good one, you go, yeah, yeah, the
• 55:08
  league really needed a good offensive line class. We really needed this. The
• 55:12
  crops are gonna go great, quarterbacks are gonna stand up tall, they're gonna
• 55:15
  they're gonna be able to succeed. It's great. So for me, that's
• 55:20
  the way that I look at at offensive line class. So I agree that
• 55:22
  the defensive end class is not good. I actually am on board with the
• 55:29
  Kyle van Neut idea to plug a hole here. Now, let's not forget
• 55:34
  you know, Casey two hill. You know by all means, let's not
• 55:37
  you know Casey two thumbs right too, Casey too furious, And so I
• 55:42
  think that I forget about it. Huh Yeah, So I think that we
• 55:49
  need We're just completely off the rails. We're slap happy at this point.
• 55:52
  So defensive end, I think is still a meaningful need. I'm gonna I'm
• 55:57
  gonna two for this wide receiver is five as well, because we're way over
• 56:00
  time, so I'm double fisting this. So I apologize if I just told
• 56:05
  something I was supposed to do. But for me, wide receiver is a
• 56:07
  five. But not because you need a number two. It's because you need
• 56:12
  a future number one. I'm not concerned about the number two now. I
• 56:17
  think if you went into this year with exactly the targets you had, it
• 56:22
  wouldn't hold you back from being a good passing offense. But I am really
• 56:25
  concerned about having a number one target who gets one hundred and fifty targets a
• 56:30
  year and is about to turn thirty one. Yeah, because all of a
• 56:32
  sudden, that is a. I think about vacated targets a lot, right,
• 56:37
  And if Stefan Diggs was not on this roster in twenty twenty five,
• 56:42
  that is a massive amount of vacated targets. Do you really want to spread
• 56:45
  those out amongst Curtis Samuel and Khalis Shakir. Just give each of them seventy
• 56:52
  five more problem solved? Like I just I don't feel comfortable with that.
• 56:55
  And I love Daltonton kid. I mean, anyone who's spent any meaning full
• 57:00
  time listening to me talk at all is I think Dalton Kinkaid is wide receiver
• 57:05
  two. That's what I want, agree, and so I'm very very interested
• 57:08
  in that. But you still need to get person Actually you don't play wide
• 57:12
  receiver. Yeah, so for me it's a five, but not because you
• 57:16
  need necessarily bodies right now. You need a wide receiver one in training,
• 57:21
  and I don't want to I don't want to have a situation. The best
• 57:23
  time, the best time two look for a job is when you have a
• 57:29
  job. The best time to look for a wide receiver one is when you
• 57:32
  have a wide receiver one. I like that. Yeah, that way you're
• 57:37
  already replenished the pipeline's already there and going that's an end five wide receiver.
• 57:40
  Five. I'm in a similar boat. I had a defensive end as a
• 57:45
  five and a half borderline six, but I put it down to a five
• 57:47
  and a half wide receiver I have as a six. I'll start with edge
• 57:52
  first. I'm in a similar boat with you, Like I think there's so
• 57:54
  much, so much of the edge grouping is like if and hopes for me
• 58:00
  and just going into twenty twenty three for me. Aj Panessa ideally is your
• 58:05
  edge three group. I think overall is an edge two, but I think
• 58:10
  he's on the cusp of being a true one. He's a number one against
• 58:13
  the run every day of the week. But I think he's still putting things
• 58:15
  together. Yeah, I think he's still putting things together. From a pass
• 58:19
  rust perspective, I think he's on the cusp of being an overall well rounded
• 58:22
  one. But I still think roots a two, and then Vaughn hopefully he
• 58:28
  can be a two, Like is he going to be a three? Like
• 58:30
  last year he was like a four, went even at the end of the
• 58:32
  year when he started to flash a little bit, maybe like a three.
• 58:36
  So as of now, you're banking on with what what it looks like right
• 58:39
  now. At edge, you're banking on Group making another jump in his game
• 58:44
  or taking another jump in his game. From a pass rest perspective, you're
• 58:46
  banking or hoping on Vaughn returning somewhat to form and aj Panessa making more incremental
• 58:53
  improvements. That's a lot of hope and a lot of IFFs as opposed to
• 58:57
  known quantities. When they brought in Leonard Floyd the best time in the offseason
• 59:00
  last year, as you alluded to when they brought him in in June,
• 59:02
  he was their best pass rusher from an edge of perspective, consistency, from
• 59:06
  a consistency standpoint last year, and even though he faded a bit down the
• 59:08
  stretch early in the year, he gave you that dude who could get you
• 59:13
  a bucket at any point, that guy who could win a one on one
• 59:15
  and who is a threat at all times. They don't have that guy right
• 59:19
  now. And even if even if you're thinking, man, I think Vaughn's
• 59:22
  gonna return more to form a little bit, I think to expect him to
• 59:24
  return back to that walking bucket that he was before he got hurt is potentially
• 59:29
  a lot to ask for, and aside from that, you still could use
• 59:31
  death because after those three you're just looking at Kingsley, Jonathan Casey Twohill who
• 59:37
  they brought in, and then Cameron Kleine. May some people look at Client
• 59:39
  as a defensive tackle, but either way it doesn't matter. It's a similar
• 59:42
  conversation for this position. I think you need depth embodies, but I also
• 59:47
  think it's there's the Von conversation is so annoying because that throws a wrench in
• 59:52
  the whole thing because you really don't know what you're gonna get from Vaughn.
• 59:55
  Is is it gonna be more of those flashes we saw down the stretch and
• 59:59
  what we saw for against the Steelers or is it going to be more inconsistency
• 1:00:02
  and more few and far between? And is he more rotational than being a
• 1:00:07
  one or a two? Like I don't think he's gonna get back to being
• 1:00:09
  a one this year. I don't know if he's ever gonna get back to
• 1:00:12
  being a one. I'm hoping he could be a two, but I feel
• 1:00:15
  like the floor in a reasonable expectation is like a three ish twoish kind And
• 1:00:20
  if that's the case, who's your number one? Threat off the edge from
• 1:00:22
  a pass rush perspective consistently because Vanessa can win but he's not a walking bucket.
• 1:00:28
  Group can win, but he's not a walking bucket. Maybe he evolves
• 1:00:30
  to that spot and Von again if he's that model of inconsistency, we don't
• 1:00:35
  know. So there's so much uncertainty and ifs and unknowns at this spot.
• 1:00:38
  And even if they hit what we're hoping they can be, realistically you still
• 1:00:44
  need another starter in that top four. But ideally you need a walking bucket
• 1:00:47
  at that spot, which worries me a lot. And then similar to kind
• 1:00:51
  of Pete's comment and the edges beacing trash in the class, I don't love
• 1:00:54
  the edge depth in the class. If if you want to get one who
• 1:00:58
  I really like, you gotta go in round one or two. Like I
• 1:01:01
  Darius Robinson, who is like defensive tackle, defensive end kind of from Missouri.
• 1:01:06
  I think he fits their archetype so well from an edge perspective, long,
• 1:01:09
  strong, power, pocket compression type of dude who plays the run tremendously
• 1:01:16
  and he's still building and growing, Like you have to go for Darius Robinson
• 1:01:21
  there or Chris Brasswell potentially in round two or Jonah Ellis potentially from round two
• 1:01:24
  in Utah. We see that Jonahl's popping up there in the chat. Or
• 1:01:30
  I know some people like Chop Robinson. I'm not a huge fan, but
• 1:01:32
  you're probably having to take him in round one if you want Chop Robinson.
• 1:01:36
  Like, I just get worried about the pickens and how slim they are,
• 1:01:37
  and even similar to free agency, like the most attractive names in free agency
• 1:01:42
  at edge right now are what like Carl Lawson and Randy Gregory in terms of
• 1:01:45
  like a guy you need to get you a bucket. I'm I'm somewhat worried
• 1:01:50
  about this edge grouping. When I say somewhat, I mean I am worried
• 1:01:53
  just because I just don't I don't like the paths going forward of how to
• 1:01:58
  address the spot. Again, though you do have three starters, technically you
• 1:02:01
  only need one more, but I'm worried about the quantity and overall functionality of
• 1:02:06
  the group wide receiver I had as a six as well. The reason I
• 1:02:12
  didn't have it higher the same addition calms things a little bit. I really
• 1:02:15
  just think there's a million paths going forward because of how deep this class is
• 1:02:19
  and I know everybody is on kind of the earlier wide receiver train in terms
• 1:02:22
  of, oh, you know Xavier Laguette or Brian Thomas Falls or ad Mitchell
• 1:02:28
  or Lad McConkie, all these names which I recognize and I like. But
• 1:02:31
  I also think there's value to be had later. Like I really really really
• 1:02:35
  like Jermaine Burton, and I really like like a Day three type of sleeper
• 1:02:38
  that could mold and be become your ex receiver like Marcus rosenmy Jack Saint from
• 1:02:44
  Georgia. I think there's options to kind of quell the need there. I'm
• 1:02:49
  also looking for more body type and skill set than I am necessarily that developmental
• 1:02:55
  guy. I'm in the developmental boat like you. But my thought is,
• 1:03:00
  if you have to get that guy, you probably need that guy in round
• 1:03:02
  one or round two. If you really want a wide receiver one potential guy
• 1:03:07
  or a guy that can be a wide receiver too and grow in to a
• 1:03:09
  wide receiver one, I think that pick has to come on Day one or
• 1:03:14
  day two. Problem is they don't have a round three pick, which is
• 1:03:17
  another Day two option. Like I think there are some fun wide receiver players
• 1:03:21
  or wide receiver dudes that can fall into Round three that still have that wide
• 1:03:24
  receiver one upside potentially, But it just gets harder the further and further you
• 1:03:29
  go, and with only having a round one pick and a round two pick
• 1:03:31
  and then no round three, it just I feel like it muddies things so
• 1:03:36
  much. But I do like the potential options they can go through. The
• 1:03:40
  further you go away from round one, the harder it becomes to hit on
• 1:03:44
  that, obviously, but I just think there's so many ways they can go
• 1:03:46
  about addressing it in round one or round two, which is the reason I'm
• 1:03:51
  not too scared, because if they want to address it, they can because
• 1:03:53
  they'll have the option too. If the Buffalo Bills walk away from the draft
• 1:03:58
  with any one of the following three players Javon Baker, Ricky Piersoll, Roman
• 1:04:04
  Wilson, I will be insufferable on this application. That is the X and
• 1:04:13
  all over every podcast that will have me, because that is those are my
• 1:04:18
  guys, Like those I have them in their own tier as people. Bruce
• 1:04:23
  is just irrationally higher on than everyone else. Oh so they're like they're like
• 1:04:27
  tier four. No, no, no, this is my own personal tear
• 1:04:30
  right, this is my own personal tier of Yes, I recognize this is
• 1:04:31
  higher than everybody else. Jayden Reid was like that for me last year.
• 1:04:35
  Oh, I remember how much any anybody who listened. By the way,
• 1:04:39
  I just want you to know, Steve drafted Jayden Reid in our Dynasty League
• 1:04:45
  right ahead of me, and then traded him away in the middle of the
• 1:04:48
  season for David and Joku because he had some massive injuries at tight end.
• 1:04:53
  Oh wow, to Greg Tom Satt, I just traded Russell Wilson to him
• 1:04:57
  to get Jayden Reid back. So Jaden Reed is now home where he belongs,
• 1:05:02
  and so I got my guy. And if the Bills pick Roman Wilson
• 1:05:10
  or Javon Baker or Ricky Piersoll, I will be mortgaging the future in my
• 1:05:14
  Dynasty League to go up and have them on my team because they are my
• 1:05:17
  guys. I love them dearly and you can pry them from me with from
• 1:05:23
  my cold dead hands. So that's the way I feel about that. Oh,
• 1:05:27
  I like a lot of those dudes. Go ahead and continue our last
• 1:05:30
  thing. We got our last need. We do have our last need.
• 1:05:32
  I just want to real quick, I do love Baker. I know I
• 1:05:34
  didn't name him. He I was on him like from a tape perspective before
• 1:05:39
  the Senior Bowl, liked him more at the Senior Bowl. Finally got more
• 1:05:43
  tape after he's been I also thought the Bills were gonna have a third round
• 1:05:46
  pick from the Compick, but they again, they only got the four which
• 1:05:49
  I know, we all know that Baker has been for a long time,
• 1:05:51
  like my dream pick at sixty. I don't know if he's gonna last to
• 1:05:58
  there now, which upsets me. I think he's Baker is that guy for
• 1:06:02
  me again, different, different skill set and type of player, similar to
• 1:06:06
  what I thought of Jonathan Mingo last year, who I watched him early and
• 1:06:10
  I was like, once we get closer to April, he's going to jump
• 1:06:13
  up boards, and he did and Carolina took him. I believe in the
• 1:06:15
  second and I think Baker is going to be that similar type of dude,
• 1:06:18
  just with the true X size and frame and skill set. I think I
• 1:06:21
  think he arguably has the best release package in the entire class. Absolutely does
• 1:06:27
  bron He can win. You can throw him out there and just feel comfortable.
• 1:06:30
  He can get it, yep, no matter what, Like he can
• 1:06:32
  beat you off the line in so many ways, and then I think if
• 1:06:34
  you clean up that stem work a little bit. It just man with his
• 1:06:39
  size and frame and athleticism and traits and skill set that he already has.
• 1:06:43
  Oh I just I love him so much and he fits who he is and
• 1:06:48
  what he is is such a perfect plug into the Bills offense given what the
• 1:06:53
  wide receiver room currently looks like. It also ticks your box of guy who
• 1:06:57
  could I think potentially could be a one down the road, but he fits
• 1:07:00
  so well right now because of who he is right now, let alone the
• 1:07:03
  development piece. So sorry, I was very excited. We talk about size
• 1:07:06
  as being a prerequisite for you being an X receiver, and it's in fact,
• 1:07:11
  it's way more about release package and body control absolutely good ques because he's
• 1:07:15
  not the biggest dude, Like he's not some like six' four or six
• 1:07:17
  three, two hundred and twenty pound dude, Like he's got a good size
• 1:07:20
  and frame. But yeah, it's that release package, which is why you
• 1:07:24
  know, I'm okay with taking like a lad McConkey or something like that,
• 1:07:27
  because I know he can win consistently off the line, or to your point,
• 1:07:30
  Ricky pearsall who can win everywhere. And also I did not think Ricky
• 1:07:33
  Pearsall was gonna run in the four fours. And not only did he run,
• 1:07:35
  Oh he's so much fact that I thought he was gonna be. I
• 1:07:39
  thought he was gonna be like a four. If he hit four fours,
• 1:07:42
  I would have been like, okay, four four eight four four nine.
• 1:07:45
  I think we're talking like a four five one four five Yeah, so similar
• 1:07:48
  like but he basically he almost ran a four to three like he ran a
• 1:07:50
  four four one, like he was he was chugging. I had no idea.
• 1:07:55
  Like I thought he was more smooth and controlled and like I always phrase
• 1:08:00
  his tape and how he works as technical fluidity, and I just wasn't expecting
• 1:08:05
  to see a four to four dude, and so even more so, yeah,
• 1:08:08
  with just what he can do. I also really like your main burden
• 1:08:11
  wide receiver. We could be here forever, but we can't be here forever.
• 1:08:14
  Bruce Brand home for you. Give your point and then we'll say goodbye
• 1:08:17
  to you in this time. What's your last one? What do you got?
• 1:08:19
  Offensive tackle oka? Offensive tackle three? Because the people in front are
• 1:08:31
  well, Deon Dawkins just gone to extension and then we're happy about that,
• 1:08:34
  but he's not super young. And then you have a right tackle who you've
• 1:08:40
  gotten one solid year from. Yep. And there was a discussion very early
• 1:08:45
  in your comment section about how do we feel about extending Dawson Knox. I
• 1:08:47
  would not be in favor of extending Dawson Knox at this point. I have
• 1:08:50
  no problem letting him play out the contract. I want to see if he
• 1:08:54
  can do it again because we've seen regression from Dawson. Dawson Knox give me
• 1:08:59
  a special from Spencer Brown before. Their names are next to each other on
• 1:09:04
  my depth chart in front of me because it's right tackle and tight end.
• 1:09:08
  They're right next to each other, and I was like, okay, that's
• 1:09:10
  good job Bruce here, you're amazing. So Spencer Brown, we've seen some
• 1:09:13
  regression years from Spencer Brown before. And even if you didn't, your backups
• 1:09:18
  are Ryan Vandam Mark, who you feel good about as a left tackle backup
• 1:09:23
  but less so as a right tackle backup, and Tommy Doyle, who I
• 1:09:27
  don't feel great about at all. So in addition, you just sacrificed a
• 1:09:32
  five position player in Ryan Bates when you let him go. So for me,
• 1:09:39
  it's lower because you don't need a starter right now. You don't potentially
• 1:09:45
  need a future starter unless you plan on letting Spencer Brown walk, But if
• 1:09:49
  you do because you want to save money there, then you do need a
• 1:09:53
  future starter. Because I don't want Ryan Vandermark starting at right tackle. I
• 1:09:56
  think he's much better at left tackle than Yeah, weirdly he's he looks lost
• 1:09:59
  at the on the right side, but he looks above functional at left.
• 1:10:01
  It's so it's so weird. It's just I know that we we harp on
• 1:10:06
  that that is left and right are very very different, but when you see
• 1:10:12
  it in action, it really reinforces it. I don't feel good about Tommy
• 1:10:15
  Doyle as the replacement there, and the tackle classes are historically really difficult in
• 1:10:21
  free agency. They don't let them get available, so you can't just say,
• 1:10:24
  oh, we'll plug that in free agency. I think if you plan
• 1:10:27
  on retaining the option to let Spencer Brown walk, you got to drop him
• 1:10:30
  now. I think it's fair and I love that thought too with Vandon Mark.
• 1:10:34
  Like I was very worried about Brown going into twenty twenty three, and
• 1:10:39
  I was like, Okay, what's the safety net? And when I saw
• 1:10:42
  Vandamark in the preseason at left tackle. I was like, oh man,
• 1:10:45
  maybe he could be the answer to Brown. And then I watched Hi play
• 1:10:47
  right tackle with the preseason, I was like, okay, never mind,
• 1:10:49
  this is off the table. All line was right there for me too.
• 1:10:54
  What number did you give or what number did you give tackle? What number?
• 1:10:57
  I have a three? You have a three? Okay, I gave
• 1:10:59
  it a three and a half. So we're very similar, almost in lockstep
• 1:11:01
  there. I grouped it just because I would like depth in general, like
• 1:11:06
  even in some more guard spots. But yeah, I think that tackle spot
• 1:11:10
  is right there. Like I don't feel I still think you could make the
• 1:11:15
  case that maybe Spencer Brown regresses this year potentially or not regresses, but you're
• 1:11:19
  still hoping that he can show that consistency on the field and from an injury
• 1:11:24
  perspective that he can be the long term option at right tackle. And I
• 1:11:28
  answered it in the chat, and I'm in lockstep with you, like I
• 1:11:30
  know you're you know, maybe you signed Spencer Brown as the thought is,
• 1:11:32
  you signed Spencer Brown this year before his ascension really puts him at a spot
• 1:11:38
  where he's gonna you know, outprice himself, similar to like what the Braves
• 1:11:40
  did with Albi's and Acuna all those years ago. I just don't think you've
• 1:11:45
  seen enough from Brown year in and year out to be able to be like,
• 1:11:48
  Okay, yeah, we're confident that this trajectory will continue from an on
• 1:11:51
  the field perspective or from just an availability perspective. So that worries me a
• 1:11:56
  little bit. But also what scares me at the tackle spot is yeah,
• 1:12:00
  like you said, like the free agent market isn't great for tackle or for
• 1:12:04
  you know, guards and everybody in general. Like it's it's somewhat slim pickings
• 1:12:08
  on there. There's a lot of names, but I don't think the names
• 1:12:11
  necessarily equate to the play that you are looking for when you play that name
• 1:12:14
  association game, which worries me. So I'm in a similar spot like tackle,
• 1:12:18
  it could be tackled, could be guard. I do think you could
• 1:12:23
  make upgrades or not upgrades, but additions. Yeah, and upgrades at the
• 1:12:27
  depth for both. I want that safety netback in Bates and Edwards, like
• 1:12:31
  I want that sixth offensive lineman who is also kind of a super sub.
• 1:12:35
  I want that guard who can play both guard spots and play center, like
• 1:12:39
  I want that super sub because what we saw from the Bills offensive line last
• 1:12:43
  year was really great. But the odds of all five starters playing together as
• 1:12:47
  much as they did last year is unheard of in the NFL. For as
• 1:12:49
  much as the defense was hit with a plague of injuries and was a washing,
• 1:12:54
  a walking mash unit, it was unfortunately, well, I guess,
• 1:12:58
  fortunately balanced out by how healthy the offensive line was. You do not see
• 1:13:01
  that regularly or at all, let alone like back to back years. You're
• 1:13:05
  you're starting five staying that healthy and playing that much together. You need a
• 1:13:09
  quality six, You need a functional seventh. I don't think the Bills really
• 1:13:13
  have that on the roster right now, and that worries me, and that
• 1:13:15
  scares me. What do you got for targets? And then we'll say goodbye
• 1:13:18
  to you. I have no targets at all, because we're out of time.
• 1:13:21
  That's WLAS want. I have no targets, just zero targets. I
• 1:13:25
  didn't I didn't even do any prep for this show. I didn't. I
• 1:13:28
  didn't even think about it. I was just like, you know, whatever,
• 1:13:31
  it's it's Anthony, He'll forgive me. I don't. I don't even
• 1:13:35
  care I think, I mean, I'm gonna say this name and you're you're
• 1:13:44
  gonna roll your eyes, because everyone's gonna roll their eyes if it gets later
• 1:13:46
  in the summer in Makai back then is hanging around, and you could pair
• 1:13:51
  him with Aaron Kromer, then I would I would be interested because I think
• 1:13:56
  there's still talent there, but there's technical refinement that is necessary. I think
• 1:14:00
  that if you're gonna take a you know, a swing on someone, I
• 1:14:05
  think that that's the kind of player you would you would do that with.
• 1:14:10
  And I think that's probably the only type of player that I would consider the
• 1:14:14
  free agency position who I think has right tackle you know, right tackle experience,
• 1:14:18
  who you feel good about. So I think free agency is kind of
• 1:14:24
  a excuse me, kind of a worrisome spot. Yeah, free agency is
• 1:14:29
  kind of a worsome spot when it comes to offensive tackle. I think,
• 1:14:32
  as mentioned, this is a unbelievable offensive tackle class in general, but at
• 1:14:41
  the position where you be looking for this, because you're not I'm not going
• 1:14:44
  to drop in first or second round players because that's not where you're going to
• 1:14:47
  take someone you hope might be a right tackle for you in the next year
• 1:14:54
  like that, Hey, guys, let's trade it for Joe Alt. Like
• 1:14:57
  that's just I mean, let's just go ahead and do that, right to
• 1:15:00
  be there? Yeah, why not? I mean, let's just go ahead
• 1:15:02
  and do it. Christian Jones Texas, dude, that's my that's my draft
• 1:15:09
  target? Was it? Really? Yeah? I made I went interior first
• 1:15:12
  and I listed Cooper bb Zach Zinter and Jvon Cohen and then my first tackle
• 1:15:15
  that I listed was Christian Jones from Texas. I liked him at the Senior
• 1:15:18
  Bowl and I liked him since. Yeah, and I think, you know,
• 1:15:23
  one of the joys of having an offensive line coach like Aaron Kromer is
• 1:15:29
  climan and just go, yeah, he can work with them. Right,
• 1:15:33
  You've got to remember the things that Aaron Kromer said, and that's like,
• 1:15:36
  are they able Are they able to plant their feet and generate power and stone
• 1:15:42
  an offensive lineman? Can they get in front of them? Right? Because
• 1:15:44
  Aaron Kromer is a big believer in that the power comes from your your feet
• 1:15:47
  right planted firmly on the ground, and you it's a little bit like it's
• 1:15:53
  a bit like a boxer. Okay, when you talk to boxing coaches,
• 1:15:57
  They will tell you that your power for your punches actually comes from your feet.
• 1:16:00
  It comes from your legs, and it comes up through the rotation in
• 1:16:02
  your in your in your hips when you turn. Yeah, like a like
• 1:16:08
  a like a good swing in baseball, Like a good swing in baseball.
• 1:16:10
  I'm not a baseball guy, but yeah, like a good swing in baseball.
• 1:16:12
  Right. Aaron Kromer believes the same thing about that. So hand usage
• 1:16:16
  is great. I look at the feet first. If I'm scouting for Aaron
• 1:16:23
  Chromer, I have a feeling that if he says, hey, you know,
• 1:16:27
  feet than hands, it's a little bit like press coverage in defensive back.
• 1:16:30
  It's feet then hands, not hands, then feet. Right, So
• 1:16:32
  if your feet are right and your hand technique is bad, we can fix
• 1:16:35
  that. Right. If your feet are bad, you might just not be
• 1:16:40
  able to keep up. So that's the way I look at it. And
• 1:16:43
  when I'm looking at offensive linemen and trying to project them into Aeron Chromer system,
• 1:16:46
  it's feet and the ability to anchor that I think matters the most.
• 1:16:54
  There so much spot I'll talk about it after you go. We're gonna continue
• 1:16:58
  trucking on in this episode, but Bruce, you were very great. I
• 1:17:00
  really thought we were going to finish closer in time. I'm so sorry because
• 1:17:02
  I know how busy you were today and what you got going tomorrow. Plug
• 1:17:04
  everything you got. You have an awesome episode coming through that you and I
• 1:17:09
  were talking about offline and DM and about. So tell all the people who
• 1:17:12
  you are where they can find you. They should know already, but just
• 1:17:14
  in case, the floor is yours. Give it everything you got, and
• 1:17:15
  then I'm going to continue on solo here for all the people still rolling,
• 1:17:18
  Bruce, the floor is yours. If you would like to listen to more
• 1:17:23
  of my content, you are welcome to do so. I will encourage it.
• 1:17:25
  In fact, I will accept it if you would like to provide that
• 1:17:28
  you can listen to my show, The Bruce Exclusive on the Buffalo Rumblings podcast
• 1:17:31
  network. It drops every Thursday morning, and we have a doozy for you
• 1:17:35
  this Thursday that will address some narratives per playing their way around the Buffalo Bill's
• 1:17:41
  sphere recently. Beautiful. I appreciate you, godspeed, go get some rest
• 1:17:45
  again. I appreciate the hell out of you. You're tremendous as always.
• 1:17:48
  I'll see you in the DMS. God speed and thank you for being one
• 1:17:53
  of my favorite guests. I'll catch you later. Bye, Bruce. Oh,
• 1:18:00
  absolutely tremendous as always, mister Bruce Nolan aka Bruce Exclusive. As we
• 1:18:06
  continue to go, oh down the stretch. Of course, I haven't coughed
• 1:18:11
  really at all this episode. And of course, of course, as soon
• 1:18:16
  as Bruce leaves and I'm solo, what do we got? We got some
• 1:18:18
  coffin live chat. You guys have been phenomenal all night. Let's go any
• 1:18:23
  questions, thoughts, comments, concerns, anything and everything that is on your
• 1:18:27
  mind in terms of this roster, in terms of priorities, in terms of
• 1:18:30
  targets, free agency, the draft, what you want to see, what
• 1:18:32
  you don't want to see, what are you worried about? What do you
• 1:18:34
  feel good about? Start putting it up, putting those things, those thoughts,
• 1:18:39
  comments, question concerns, whatever you got, start throwing it up into
• 1:18:42
  the chat. I will start to bring those pieces forward a little more so
• 1:18:45
  now as we wind down here on this episode, while you folks in the
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  while. Probably gonna get some this weekend. Oh Joe says, I have
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  their show going on a different tablet. I work on something. I heard
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  that buzz and thought one of you two got electrocuted. Yeah, I think
• 1:19:50
  the FBI was tapping Bruce's phone. It happened twice, but yeah, I
• 1:19:55
  think they're finally I think they're finally finally onto them. Roy could comment here
• 1:20:01
  a question I should say, Roy says, and don't remember, but do
• 1:20:03
  you do mock draft shows? I kind of do, but kind of don't.
• 1:20:09
  What I started to do is April rolls around, which we're gonna be
• 1:20:12
  there in a couple of weeks. I don't necessarily do it with simulators,
• 1:20:15
  but I start to do, like building the ideal Buffalo Bill's draft. I
• 1:20:18
  did it last year with Joe Marino the week of the draft or the week
• 1:20:21
  before, and it was really that idea of what ideally would happen for the
• 1:20:30
  Buffalo Bill. So it's not going through a simulator and like, oh,
• 1:20:31
  here's the guys that are available, should we trade the pick? Should we
• 1:20:33
  do this? It's more just building things and talking about everything from a holistic
• 1:20:38
  perspective in terms of how the board will fall, the needs, the fit
• 1:20:41
  the player, having a more comprehensive conversation. So I kind of do,
• 1:20:45
  but kind of don't. And I'm looking trying to potentially make that a series
• 1:20:48
  if I can line up certain guests going forward for the next several weeks,
• 1:20:51
  so you might get some more of that. I do a bunch of mocks
• 1:20:55
  for Twitter, just for the hell of it when I'm bored, like in
• 1:20:57
  lines at stores and stuff like that. But hean't necessarily done your traditional like,
• 1:21:00
  hey, let's open up pffs, you know, mock draft simulator and
• 1:21:03
  let's all pick. Maybe I will, but it's more of those building those
• 1:21:06
  ideal drafts for the bills, because I think the conversation and the dialogue is
• 1:21:12
  better than just sitting here and clicking buttons on a board, which is more
• 1:21:15
  surface level for me. Not that that's a bad thing because I know people
• 1:21:17
  do them, but I like the more comprehensive conversation. I think the conversation
• 1:21:20
  is the more important piece. What else? What else? Those are electric
• 1:21:28
  saying? I just think Beans taking his time in free agency. He could
• 1:21:30
  sign No One this week and then sign someone at the end of March.
• 1:21:32
  Yeah, I mean, look a look at all the releases that we saw
• 1:21:38
  before free agency started. I don't think anybody saw that flurry happening at that
• 1:21:42
  time. You know, it was okay, they could probably they could get
• 1:21:45
  rid of a poil, or maybe they could get rid of morse, Like,
• 1:21:45
  we'll see what happens, but everything happening all at once. Like you
• 1:21:48
  could see the opposite of that in free agency, where they might have a
• 1:21:51
  day where they signed three or four guys, they might sign a guy once
• 1:21:55
  a day for three or four days straight. I think Bean and Joe Marino
• 1:21:59
  said it on last week's show when he was here with me, like,
• 1:22:00
  good teams let free agency come to them. Yes, you have certain needs
• 1:22:03
  in certain spots where you want to attack and go after, but you really
• 1:22:08
  have to let similar to the draft, you gotta let the board fall,
• 1:22:10
  let the board come to you. Same similar with free agency, let picks
• 1:22:13
  kind of or let players come to you. Let the market kind of flush
• 1:22:16
  itself out. And again, like Bruce said, the best free agent signing
• 1:22:20
  for the Bills lat year was Leonard Floyd and that happened in June, so
• 1:22:23
  kind of see what happens, Bill Ben saying sorry you got here late.
• 1:22:27
  Do you like Byron Murphy? I love Byron Murphy. I just don't think
• 1:22:30
  he's going to be there at pick twenty eight. Of course, there's the
• 1:22:35
  cough again. Foolishness. As Zach says, Bruce is your magical elixir for
• 1:22:39
  your sickness. Let's hope you can chug onto the show, and I expect
• 1:22:42
  it. I appreciate you, Zach. I am going to try and chug
• 1:22:44
  through this water is doing well, and then I'm going to pound a thorough
• 1:22:47
  flu nighttime and hopefully zunk out. But yeah, going back to Bill's comment
• 1:22:50
  there, I do love Byron Murphy. I just I really don't think he's
• 1:22:54
  going to be there at twenty eight. Once he backed out of the Senior
• 1:22:56
  Bowl the night before practices started. I really just thought that was kind of
• 1:23:00
  confirmation from his agent being like, yo, bro, you're gonna go in
• 1:23:01
  like the first round easy. Do you don't need to do this? Oh?
• 1:23:05
  I like the question from Mike. Mike ask says, and give me
• 1:23:09
  a zag. You could realistically see being take round two interior offensive lineman.
• 1:23:15
  I'm gonna go higher than that. I think round one interior offensive lineman could
• 1:23:20
  be a potential move. I wouldn't be I don't know if he's gonna fall.
• 1:23:26
  It's a weird type of it's gonna come really down to again, like
• 1:23:30
  everybody. So this is kind of like a blankets nament, but how the
• 1:23:31
  board falls. I could see the Bills taking Jackson Powers Johnson JPJ from Oregon
• 1:23:39
  because of his ability to play center and guard. Like, I wouldn't be
• 1:23:42
  shocked if that was a potential move in round one. I could see something
• 1:23:45
  happening in round two. But Nick Geary put out like a situation on Twitter,
• 1:23:50
  I think yesterday, and he had JPJ as the pick in round one,
• 1:23:55
  and I was like, oh, like that surprised me, but also
• 1:23:58
  I was like, that also could make sense. I think if Bean,
• 1:24:01
  if Bean can sign again, let's go through some of the targets that I
• 1:24:06
  like. If Bean signs Austin Johnson, if Bean signs Julian Blackman, and
• 1:24:13
  you're sitting there. So many options are available for the Bills of twenty eight,
• 1:24:16
  including a trade down, which I would really love. So if the
• 1:24:19
  Bills sign some veterans or some free agents to kind of mitigate the need at
• 1:24:24
  certain spots, I think anything and everything is on the table in round one
• 1:24:28
  and round two, to the point that it is purely potentially best player available.
• 1:24:32
  Yes, best player available is usually at your positions of need. But
• 1:24:36
  I wouldn't be surprised if they like well, if he went offensive line way
• 1:24:40
  earlier than anybody is potentially anticipating well saying I'm far from an expert, but
• 1:24:45
  in my opinion, barring a phenomenal player dropping to twenty eight, I would
• 1:24:48
  like the Buffalo Bills to trade back. They need good starting depth, depth
• 1:24:54
  start a good starting and depth players. Sorry, follow on my own words
• 1:24:57
  here, I second that notion. Actually, in part of part of my
• 1:25:01
  hope is that there's a run on quarterbacks, Like I hope give me the
• 1:25:05
  top three with Daniels and May and Caleb Williams. I hope JJ McCarthy goes
• 1:25:10
  in the first twenty seven picks. That's awesome. That's for you got brock
• 1:25:13
  Bauers going, you have the offensive linemen that are going to go. I
• 1:25:16
  hope you get that run on receivers. I hope it's more than just three
• 1:25:21
  by the time it gets to the Bills. I think it's going to be
• 1:25:24
  more. But if that happens, if we get a run on receivers plus
• 1:25:27
  the quarterbacks, plus the offensive lineman plus brock Boers, I think there's a
• 1:25:30
  really good chance that like a very good defensive player falls to the Bills potentially
• 1:25:34
  at either edge and or interior defensive line. And if that happens, oh,
• 1:25:41
  I think you have to go defense. But I'm similar to you in
• 1:25:44
  Locks of the Pier. I would love for the Bills to trade back out
• 1:25:47
  of twenty eight into the thirties or potentially low forties, and also pick up
• 1:25:51
  a third round pick while they're at it. That would be ideally for me.
• 1:25:57
  Bob says, what is casey two? He'll bring to the team.
• 1:26:00
  I don't want to lean into it too much because Eric and I are going
• 1:26:03
  to cover it tomorrow in the Film Room along with a bunch of pieces on
• 1:26:06
  Curtis Samuel. But you will see some casey two Hill stuff tomorrow night.
• 1:26:10
  You also have an article up with film breakdown and sm ary analysis on the
• 1:26:13
  Cover one website. But I'm gonna get into that a bunch of tomorrow in
• 1:26:16
  the film with Eric, So I don't want to I don't want to pour
• 1:26:18
  too much water in the question right there, but we're gonna dive into that
• 1:26:21
  tomorrow in the film room. Question here, what is your take on safety
• 1:26:25
  Dadreon Taylor Demerson. I want to like him because there's all this hype for
• 1:26:30
  him, even his running mate there Owens, the other safety who I saw
• 1:26:34
  briefly but he didn't play in another game I watched. I haven't fully dove
• 1:26:39
  into Demerson or Owens completely. I've seen them sporadically as I've watched offensive teams
• 1:26:45
  that they've played. I haven't loved Emerson. I see him as a Day
• 1:26:48
  three guy or like a late Day two, like Round three type of guy.
• 1:26:53
  I know some people are really really really high on him, like the
• 1:26:56
  speed and how he moves, and I think that's super intest because he's fast
• 1:27:00
  as hell. I haven't loved him on tape though, But again, if
• 1:27:03
  you're pairing him with okay, they signed Mike Edwards to like a one year
• 1:27:08
  or two year deal and then it's Rap and Edwards and then you got Demerson
• 1:27:12
  like coming off as to safety three. Like, I think it's fine to
• 1:27:14
  kind of coach him up and see where he can be, But I don't
• 1:27:17
  love him as much. I know he's kind of like a hot and sexy
• 1:27:19
  name for a lot of people, especially after the good week that he had
• 1:27:23
  at the Shrine Bowl. He hasn't been that for me. He's somebody I'm
• 1:27:26
  going to dive into more as we go forward, but as of right now,
• 1:27:29
  I'm kind of just meh on him. I want to like him more,
• 1:27:30
  but I'm just been mah. Glenn ned Flanders says, I'd love to
• 1:27:35
  see you guys build a Bills drap board. That'll absolutely be happening as we
• 1:27:39
  go forward, either on this show and in the film room or just the
• 1:27:42
  show. That'll absolutely be happening as we go forward here. Team trade Down
• 1:27:48
  says, do you think the Bills will give serious consideration to trading back?
• 1:27:50
  Absolutely? Beans all about value, Like he's proven that time and time again,
• 1:27:54
  and if there's somebody he really wants, he'll take him. If there's
• 1:27:58
  somebody he wants a little earlier, he'll trade up. If not, I
• 1:28:00
  think he recognizes the value. I would love to see some kind of combination
• 1:28:04
  where you're trading even though I want as many throws at the dartboard as possible,
• 1:28:10
  as many swings at the plate as possible, which the Bills have a
• 1:28:13
  bunch with all the picks that they have, I would like to see some
• 1:28:15
  sort of trading down and trading up a package of picks. I would like
• 1:28:19
  to use as much draft capital as possible to acquire as many Day two picks
• 1:28:25
  as possible. I think the strength of this draft class, especially from a
• 1:28:28
  wide receiver perspective, is rounds two and three. But when you add in
• 1:28:32
  the safety need, the wide receiver need, and the interior defensive line need,
• 1:28:36
  even some of the edge needs, a lot of it could be remedied
• 1:28:40
  with picks in round two and or round three. I would like to acquire
• 1:28:43
  as many Day two picks as possible. So if that means trading down from
• 1:28:45
  twenty eight or packaging, you know, some of the Day three stuff to
• 1:28:48
  move up a little bit, that's a boat that I'm definitely into. Awesome
• 1:28:56
  two guys in the same one here. How do you feel about the two
• 1:28:58
  host signing? Kind of just give broad spectrum piece like works good against the
• 1:29:01
  run, and he hustles and grinds like he's a motor dude. I think
• 1:29:04
  he's a depth guy more than anything. You're sitting there and you're looking at
• 1:29:08
  edge four probably right now, maybe edge three, but he's more of a
• 1:29:12
  situational or specific type of skill set guy. So I think he's more depth
• 1:29:15
  than anything. We absolutely did get screwed on the compic Charles saying it feels
• 1:29:24
  like the knocks on Franklin and Coleman have swung too far. I wouldn't take
• 1:29:26
  either at twenty eight, but both are likely top fifty picks. I am
• 1:29:29
  not too high on Troy Franklin. I know he was sick at the combine
• 1:29:33
  and this kind of the stuff that came out with his you know why his
• 1:29:39
  weight was off a little bit and why he may have tested poorly are not
• 1:29:41
  done as good. I just don't love what I see on tape as much
• 1:29:45
  as others do. I think the speed is very real, especially once he
• 1:29:47
  gets going like his last if you're thinking about the forty, his last twenty
• 1:29:53
  yards are faster than his first twenty, and how he finishes in the last
• 1:29:56
  ten, like once he gets by you, the step is real. But
• 1:30:01
  again, he's a dude who I think has somewhat limited rout tree, Like
• 1:30:04
  he's mainly successful off a vertical stem, so you're looking at like gohs,
• 1:30:08
  posts, hitches, deep sits, slants like stuff like that. I don't
• 1:30:11
  think he has a complete route tree. I don't love his frame and how
• 1:30:15
  he projects to having more of a complete route tree, but his skill set
• 1:30:17
  would be useful in this Bill's offense, and I think he would provide a
• 1:30:24
  layer to the offense that you could use. I just don't love him as
• 1:30:27
  much as other dudes or as much as other teams do. I wouldn't take
• 1:30:30
  him in round one. I would put I think I have to check out
• 1:30:33
  my rankings, but I may even take Keyan Coleman ahead of him just because
• 1:30:36
  of the size and the frame and the athleticism standpoint. He's a whole other
• 1:30:41
  conversation in terms of stem work and rout running and Christmas and all that what
• 1:30:45
  you need him to work on. But I think the conversation on Franklin is
• 1:30:50
  coming back into the positive because the whole sickness thing at the combine. I've
• 1:30:55
  seen everybody pumping up Troy Franklin since day one of this offseason because you know,
• 1:31:00
  guy, go fast, you know, zoom zoom zoom, make my
• 1:31:02
  heart go boom boom, Supernova girl shout the Xenon Girl of the twenty first
• 1:31:05
  century. I I could maybe be talking to Keyon Coleman at twenty eight.
• 1:31:12
  I don't want Troy Franklin at twenty eight, but I would understand if they
• 1:31:15
  did that. Bill's fears saying I predicted the position of our first round pick.
• 1:31:21
  Since McBean has arrived, I'm thinking it's another surprise position like offensive line.
• 1:31:27
  That would be a surprise, and I wonder how upset everybody would be,
• 1:31:30
  Elizabeth saying, I know the safety conversion question was popular for a while,
• 1:31:33
  and I feel like the Benford idea finally put that to rest. But
• 1:31:36
  do the Bills have any developmental non Lewis dbs who can play safety. I
• 1:31:40
  really like this question because I hate the notion that comes from this conversation all
• 1:31:44
  the time, where so many people just say, oh, like just take
• 1:31:46
  Benford moving to safety, Like take Kyriela, move them to safety. Take
• 1:31:49
  this corner and move them to safety. It's such a harder projection then I
• 1:31:55
  think people make it out to be. You're seeing the feel from a completely
• 1:31:59
  dif advantage point. You have a different set of responsibilities and rules in pass
• 1:32:03
  coverage in addition to how you are fitting the run, you are a real
• 1:32:06
  part of the run. Fit within tackle to tackle within that tackle box,
• 1:32:13
  so you have to be able to fit from depth, you have to be
• 1:32:15
  able to come forward. That's been my biggest knock of everything with Kyrie Elan,
• 1:32:16
  like his ability to come forward from depth and be a consistent performer against
• 1:32:20
  the run has not been there. So moving him to safety, in addition
• 1:32:25
  to all the coverage changes visually and processing wise and responsibility wise, do you
• 1:32:29
  still have to deal with just from fitting the run. It's a whole other
• 1:32:30
  world and a whole other conversation. I don't think the Bills, and this
• 1:32:35
  is again me probably skewing it a little bit. I don't think the Bills
• 1:32:39
  have any developmental non cam Lewis bbs who can play safety, mainly because I
• 1:32:42
  just think that transition is a lot harder than people make it out to be.
• 1:32:45
  I think it's much more projection than it is anything substantial. Like I
• 1:32:51
  know jers Bird has the history of it. You know Bill's drafting from Morgan,
• 1:32:54
  corner safety, all that kind of stuff. But I just think it's
• 1:32:57
  a lot harder of a transition than it gets made out to be. So
• 1:33:00
  I appreciate you asking this question because I see it all the time for people
• 1:33:02
  like oh, we have all this corner jaft just moving to safety. It's
• 1:33:05
  just a harder transition then gets talked about, just because again, how you
• 1:33:11
  see the field, Your role is your responsibilities, your assignments, all of
• 1:33:14
  that. Oh, Bills are electric, saying I think Graham Barton's better than
• 1:33:17
  JPJ. Graham can play all three interior offensive line spots plus tackle. Joey
• 1:33:21
  Camp coming in and saying Graham Barton as well. I haven't gotten to Graham
• 1:33:25
  Barton yet. I actually didn't. I haven't fully dove into the offensive line
• 1:33:30
  class like I've done it sporadically. But I started with safety and then wide
• 1:33:35
  receiver and defensive tackle, and I'm finishing up some stuff with edge and getting
• 1:33:42
  the with Honestly, with the moves that happened an offensive line and corner,
• 1:33:45
  I was kind of waiting. I look at the draft and analyze all the
• 1:33:47
  players and prospects from an overall perspective, not necessarily through a Bill's lens,
• 1:33:54
  but the positions, the position groups I start with are from a Bill's basis.
• 1:33:59
  So offensive line was low for me, and so it was corner,
• 1:34:01
  and then you know, the red wedding happened, and now I'm like,
• 1:34:04
  oh no, Now I got to dive into more O line in corner.
• 1:34:08
  But I will get the bart I wanted to see him at the Senior Bowl.
• 1:34:10
  He pulled out too on that Monday before, like literally the day before,
• 1:34:14
  which I was disappointed about what else do we got? What else do
• 1:34:18
  we got? Darryl says Chop. I like the idea of Chop more than
• 1:34:21
  I like the tape. Tremendous get off, great athlete. I just didn't
• 1:34:29
  love him against the pass the like him against the run more than the past.
• 1:34:32
  I still didn't even love that like. I think he needs to add
• 1:34:34
  a little more to his frame because he gets pushed around a bit against the
• 1:34:38
  run. I don't think he has the moves yet Again, it's a dude
• 1:34:43
  that can be coached up. He can't teach like the speed and the get
• 1:34:45
  off of the jump. But usually when he's winning, it's because he's jumping
• 1:34:48
  off so so quickly and he's reading that snap that he's beaten the tackle and
• 1:34:55
  getting to the quarterback before the ball is he like the ball is barely snap
• 1:34:58
  and he's already the example I given I forget I was against Rutgers. He
• 1:35:01
  makes a tackle for loss in the backfield where he like tackles the running back
• 1:35:05
  as the running back is getting the ball from the quarterback because his get off
• 1:35:10
  is so good and so clean, that he's by the right tackle in an
• 1:35:14
  instant. I just I want to see more from him. I also don't
• 1:35:17
  think he's an archetype fit for the Bills, given what they traditionally look like
• 1:35:20
  at edge, but you never know. Nikki g saying have you looked at
• 1:35:26
  safety bow Braid yet? No? I have not. He's in my next
• 1:35:28
  group Maryland Safety. I started with a whole tier of dudes just based on
• 1:35:32
  what I liked from regular season and broadcast tape. But he's a name that
• 1:35:35
  I keep getting asked about. I will get to bow Braid. I have
• 1:35:38
  not watched him yet. Maryland Safety seven one six Matt says thoughts on how
• 1:35:44
  Xavier Lagat would fit into our receiving group tremendous. I again, he needs
• 1:35:49
  to be coached up, like I think you need more in his stem work
• 1:35:53
  and from a route tree and route precision standpoint, but you cannot teach that
• 1:35:56
  athleticism, that speed, that size and that frame. And I also think
• 1:35:59
  something that is and get talked about enough is his ball winning downfield, Like
• 1:36:01
  his ability to go up and get it and pull like pull it off the
• 1:36:04
  glass like a power forward as a rebounder is very real He's beaten dudes to
• 1:36:10
  fifty to fifty balls on the sideline fifty yards downfield on a post, like
• 1:36:14
  he goes up and gets it, like he's got over a four. I
• 1:36:16
  think he's got a forty inchrovert. You just can't teach that type of athleticism
• 1:36:20
  inside. So the speed plays very well in this offense. The athleticism,
• 1:36:25
  the physicality, and I also think he fits very well. I was gonna
• 1:36:28
  put a tweet out about this tomorrow too, because I've talked about it all
• 1:36:31
  off season, and Bruce said it as well, like Dalton Kinkate is your
• 1:36:34
  target two, So Dave's is your target one, Kinkaid is your target two.
• 1:36:40
  Depending on who you're three is like it could be Kolil Shakir, it
• 1:36:44
  could be Curtis Samuel, it could be James Cook, it could be and
• 1:36:47
  in factoring in like the run touches as well, not even just targets be
• 1:36:50
  factor and it touches. James Cook might be the three with what he gets
• 1:36:54
  in the past and the run. So you really could take a wide receiver
• 1:36:57
  two that adds a dynamic and a skill set that's useful now like Xavier Legette
• 1:37:01
  with his size and speed and athleticism and ball winning, but who also can
• 1:37:05
  really simmer and learn and develop for a year and start to reach that ceiling
• 1:37:11
  of a wide receiver one without the pressure of having to be a wide receiver
• 1:37:15
  one right away. So I think the Legette fit is tremendous. I didn't
• 1:37:19
  like him on day one at the Senior Bowl. I liked him much more
• 1:37:21
  on day two. I think I think his skill set is just is the
• 1:37:27
  skill set plus the size in the frame and who he is as a person
• 1:37:30
  is going to be super intriguing to everybody. M hmm, what else?
• 1:37:38
  What else? Nikki saying Franklin's post rout can score tuddies though, absolutely,
• 1:37:43
  But you can say that for a lot of do it is like you could
• 1:37:44
  say that for Jermaine Burton, you could say that for Lad McConkie. You
• 1:37:48
  could say that for really anybody that has speed. And I also think too
• 1:37:54
  is I think I think Franklin mainly wins with that speed with that but you're
• 1:38:01
  going to get into the NFL and corners are going to be just as fast,
• 1:38:04
  if not faster than you, and they're going to be just as physical,
• 1:38:08
  if not more physical. Than you. So I'm interested to see,
• 1:38:10
  like, how does he do against dudes who really want to jam him,
• 1:38:12
  who want to beat him up in his stem. I just think there's more
• 1:38:15
  questions with that for Franklin. Again not saying he can't be good. He's
• 1:38:16
  got some stuff to work on. I just I know, even before the
• 1:38:19
  combine, I didn't love him. I like the speed and that's cool.
• 1:38:23
  I think he's more of a one trick pony that gets talked about. Granted
• 1:38:26
  that one trick on tape is tremendous because he's running away from dudes left and
• 1:38:30
  right. I just I'm just not the biggest fan. Wouldn't hate the pick,
• 1:38:33
  but I wouldn't love it. Bear draft philosophy here from Franzos, saying
• 1:38:41
  I was always of the opinion it's better to get three to four surefire starters
• 1:38:45
  than spending all the draft picks on long shots. Yeah, I think there's
• 1:38:46
  something to be said for it in terms of having that known quantity and having
• 1:38:51
  that reliable floor instead of just going for more ceiling dudes. Lo says,
• 1:38:58
  if you said that if the board plays out defensive talent drops the twenty eight,
• 1:39:00
  would you be surprised at being go Cebee, I would be surprised,
• 1:39:04
  but also potentially maybe not like Douglas is still only here on a one year
• 1:39:08
  deal, right, let me cause I know he got restructured. Let me
• 1:39:15
  see, let me see, let me see. Yeah, so he's a
• 1:39:23
  UFA after this season, and then with them releasing Trey for sul Douglas being
• 1:39:28
  on the last year of his contract, and then you have Christian Benford and
• 1:39:30
  Kyrie Elam still having some question marks. I wouldn't be completely surprised at being
• 1:39:35
  go Cebe. If he went corner before cutting Trey White, I would have
• 1:39:39
  been surprised. Now I am less surprised. I'd still be a little surprised,
• 1:39:44
  But I mean, I don't know if you're really into I don't know
• 1:39:47
  Terry and Arnold and he falls like, ooh, that's kind of interesting.
• 1:39:53
  But that's a good one. I appreciate you, pe Pete saying fully with
• 1:39:56
  you on Franklin at yeah. I again, I know a ton of people
• 1:39:58
  like him, even some people like I respect and value as evaluators, but
• 1:40:02
  every evaluators evaluate differently. You can ask ten people to give you their thoughts
• 1:40:06
  on one player, and you might get ten different evaluations. But ye have
• 1:40:10
  just he just doesn't do it for me. But the speed plays, which
• 1:40:13
  is cool. But eh, as Jamal says, I would rather a wide
• 1:40:17
  receiver in the draft to get separation and good route running. Yes, yes,
• 1:40:20
  yes, yes, y'ah. Awesome comment from Jeff. Jeff says,
• 1:40:25
  if for no other reason, thumbs up for the xenon On reference, shout
• 1:40:28
  out to proto Zoa. Yes, I'm glad you got it. Yeah,
• 1:40:30
  so that zoom zoom zoom was from Xenon girl of the twenty first century amazing
• 1:40:33
  Disney movie Protozoa lead singer of the band. I think it's called Microbe.
• 1:40:40
  I never remember the band. I just remember Protozoa. Yeah, shout out
• 1:40:43
  to an amazing and amazing movie we got Oh, Charles says Chop or Isaac.
• 1:40:55
  So Charles is talking about Chop Robinson from Penn State and Isaac Adisa from
• 1:40:59
  Penn State. Honestly, with where I think they each get drafted. I
• 1:41:03
  think the value is better for Isaac honestly. Yeah, I think that's there.
• 1:41:10
  Pete saying Mason Smith one tech or three tech. I haven't watched Mason
• 1:41:13
  Smith yet. He's in my next group of defensive tackles to get to both
• 1:41:16
  him and the other LSU defensive tackle WINGO. I believe I haven't watched him
• 1:41:24
  yet either. I have to finish out my defensive tackle stuff. I was
• 1:41:27
  late to that party a little bit too, Like I just the past couple
• 1:41:30
  of weeks, I just got through Michael Hall and more Dwayne Carter's stuff.
• 1:41:34
  But I'm going through on that piece. But Mason Smith is the name I
• 1:41:36
  continue to see, and it always sticks out because his name Mason is spelled
• 1:41:40
  with two ways. What else do we got? Charles's Jarvis Brownlee, He's
• 1:41:46
  one of my late round targets at c B. Again, just varying levels
• 1:41:49
  of rounds and days in the draft. But Mike uh Sands Trustill from UH
• 1:41:56
  Michigan, Chris Abrams Drain from Missouri, Jarvis Brownlee again from Louisville, Max
• 1:42:01
  Melton from Rutgers, just a variety of dudes I think you could get on
• 1:42:05
  different days and different points based on where the Bills pick. That are corners
• 1:42:09
  that I like. That think, and I think this is also an interesting
• 1:42:11
  conversation to have because right now, kyri Elam is your corner three. How
• 1:42:18
  comfortable are you I'm not necessarily Charles, but just people. And how comfortable
• 1:42:24
  are you with Kyrie Elam as your corner three? So what kind of urgency
• 1:42:30
  do we have around corner then? Because even if you don't like him at
• 1:42:34
  three, he's your four, okay, So then you need a corner three.
• 1:42:38
  And even if you like him at your three, you still need a
• 1:42:40
  corner four to kind of round up the group. I think corners a sneaky
• 1:42:44
  need, not necessarily early, but I wouldn't be surprised though to Lowe's question
• 1:42:47
  from earlier, if they did go like corner around one and round two,
• 1:42:50
  like if somebody was just really great that dropped. I think who proposed it
• 1:42:57
  early? It is like a disguised coverage episode, like a month or two
• 1:43:00
  will go. Somebody proposed the idea of like what do you do if Terry
• 1:43:01
  and Arnold is there at twenty eight and that was before Trey went down.
• 1:43:05
  Now I think it's like ooh, like that is. I think it's a
• 1:43:09
  sneaky need and a real interesting piece because again, beyond twenty twenty four,
• 1:43:13
  you're looking at Christian Menford right now, and you're hoping Kyrie Elam could maybe
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  be corner two next year or the year after. At some point, in
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  some way, shape or form, it can be tough. Jamal says,
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  what impactle Bier, Murphy or Rooke or a or have in this system.
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  I think Murphy, you're looking at a dude who can do anything one tech,
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  three tech, but you have a penetrator dude who can anchor against double
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  teams. You can drop the knee, reduce his surface area. I think
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  Murphy is that true three down starter, impact player on all three downs type
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  of potential. Rooke I think is more rotational at this point. I think
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  you're looking at as a rotational three physical can hold strong at the point of
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  attack where you're looking for him to penetrate and just come up the works inside.
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  I think he does have a where he could potentially move up to starting
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  level, and I know some people do like him. Some people have him
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  in like their top fifty or top sixty. But I did the athleticism,
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  speed, penetration aspect like you're looking for that from Roup. But I think
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  Murphy is more just your prototypical like three down impact type of du Roy saying
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  thoughts on Bordolini, haven't watched him yet, getting him to him. He's
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  another one who once once these moves all kind of happened, I sat there
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  and I was like, Okay, now I gotta look at dudes on the
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  offensive line. So I'll be getting to mister Bordolini as we go forward here.
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  But I've heard a lot of good things. I've tried to avoid some
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  of it so it doesn't frame my mindset before I go in and evaluate.
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  But we'll see. Oh, let me go to this one first. Have
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  any favorite sleeper wide receivers that will likely be Day three picks? So I
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  mentioned one earlier, Marcus Rosemey jacksont wide receiver from Georgia. I think he's
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  got the size and the skill set that could eventually put him into like an
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  X receiver type of role. Let me pull up some of my notes on
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  him. Oh wait, did I not put it in this page? I
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  didn't put it in this page. Yes, I didn't know. I didn't.
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  I don't have my notes on him in front of me, which is
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  annoying. Marcus rose me Jackson is one also the two Washington's Malik Washington TODJ
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  Washington. TODJ. Washington small in stature and frame, but plays bigger than
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  that size and frame indicate, and can also fly. Malik Washington flies as
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  well, but a little more physicality and athleticism mixed in with the speed.
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  So the two Washington's Malik out of Virginia and todj out of USC and then
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  Marcus Rose Me Jackson on day three, who I really like as well.
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  P'sying thoughts on Leonard Taylor, so defensive tackle from Miami. I don't love
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  him. I've seen him get pushed around way too much versus double teams and
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  even against you know, some just regular bass blocks at times. There are
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  certain reps where he stacks in sheds and it's beautiful, like he gets his
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  hands on the collar of a guard or a center and just extends peaks sheds
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  makes the play. But I think I think he's too inconsistent, and it's
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  not even like oh, up and down. I think it's more down than
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  up most of the time, and I'm really scared. But just again,
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  how he gets knocked off the ball at times, and how he fares against
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  double teams, which is also not good at times. He's a Miami dude,
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  so I've seen him a ton, and I want to like him more
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  because he's a Miami dude. I just I haven't been a fan. I
• 1:46:45
  actually think if they had got they had a really good defense this past year.
• 1:46:46
  But I think if they had gotten the play that they should have gotten
• 1:46:49
  from him, with what Bain was on the edge and what they got in
• 1:46:53
  the secondary and at linebacker this year, with what they did from their class,
• 1:47:00
  they could have even even better if Leonnard Taylor kind of hit with what
• 1:47:02
  he was supposed to be. I love this comment from Jamal saying Levi Wallace
• 1:47:05
  should come back on a cheap deal because Dane Jackson signed with the Panthers.
• 1:47:09
  Yep, Levi's a target for me. I have no problem with Levi Wallace
• 1:47:13
  being Corner three of Corner four. Would have no problem with that. Low
• 1:47:16
  saying off topic, but I heard of your WWE fan. Looks like the
• 1:47:18
  attitude era is back. It is I'm more. I'm a wrestling fan in
• 1:47:24
  general. My top I'm a big AW guy and a big New Japan guy.
• 1:47:27
  I have started to watch w W a little bit more, but I
• 1:47:30
  gravitate more towards AW and New Japan. But there are some aspects of WW
• 1:47:33
  that still called him even though I've kind of with all the Vince big Man
• 1:47:36
  stuff, I've kind of phased it out a little bit, like I,
• 1:47:41
  I don't know, it's a larger conversation, but yeah, but yeah,
• 1:47:45
  I'm a huge wrestling fan, still started in my childhood and still continues to
• 1:47:48
  this day. What else? What else? Kam Morey's saying, which of
• 1:47:54
  black Men or Edwards would you prefer while visiting Julian Blackman or Mike Edwards.
• 1:48:03
  I kind of see them similarly. I guess black Men buy a hair maybe
• 1:48:10
  Edwards it's close. It's like at six and one, half a dozen or
• 1:48:13
  the other. I think they both kind of have a reasonable floor in different
• 1:48:23
  ways. From a coverage standpoint and from a usage standpoint, I would be
• 1:48:27
  fine with either. If I had to lean one, Oh boy, this
• 1:48:32
  is really tough thing, I'd probably lean Edwards just because of the Super Bowl,
• 1:48:38
  multiple super Bowl pedigree, and just that that knowledge of being a big
• 1:48:42
  game type of player. I think That's what I'm gonna go with. It's
• 1:48:45
  tough though. Oh we got awesome timing from Ned saying so happy to see
• 1:48:53
  will ospray and aw yeah, absolutely. I remember the first time I saw
• 1:48:59
  Osprey live. I've seen him a ton live, especially when I lived in
• 1:49:03
  New York City. But I saw him at Hammerstein wrestled Jay White when Jay
• 1:49:10
  White was still wearing like the white trunks with the New Zealand leaf on the
• 1:49:12
  back way before he was doing the whole switchblade thing. It was Will Osprey
• 1:49:15
  versus Jay White, I think in actually I can look it up. It
• 1:49:18
  was in Ring of Honor at Hammerstein Ballroom. I think it was twenty sixteen,
• 1:49:28
  twenty eighteen, I don't know one of those years it was early,
• 1:49:32
  but I remember the first time I saw will Osprey, I was completely enamored
• 1:49:35
  with him, and I thought he was amazing, and he's just progressed and
• 1:49:38
  is now arguably the best wrestler in the world. So yeah, it's pretty
• 1:49:41
  awesome. Bum Pete saying those reps are about Leonard Taylor, those reps are
• 1:49:47
  what make it hard to get read. I think what you're saying is my
• 1:49:51
  issue with Dwayne Carter two he's on the ground of tid. Yeah, there's
• 1:49:54
  issues where Carter doesn't finish as well. Like one of my favorite clips is
• 1:49:58
  against North Carolina where he he beats the left guard with his gorgeous spin move
• 1:50:02
  like you see the quickness and the snap and it's beautiful. And then he
• 1:50:05
  gets into the backfield and kind of stumbles all over himself and falls as May
• 1:50:09
  kind of escapes. So I think there's always that little bit that's kind of
• 1:50:11
  missing a little bit. But I would take Carter before I take Taylor.
• 1:50:15
  But again, I'm looking at Carter as a rotational type of dude. And
• 1:50:19
  I think also too, part of the reason I like him is because of
• 1:50:21
  what he did at the Senior Bowl. Like I remember saw a good rep
• 1:50:25
  from him, and then Eric pointed him out like a minute later and was
• 1:50:29
  like, Yo, look how Carter's lined up. Look at that flat back
• 1:50:32
  and just the positioning that he had and how staunch he was against the run
• 1:50:36
  and gumming up the works the Senior Bowl. Seeing him in person goes a
• 1:50:41
  long way towards me liking Dwyane Carter. In addition to some of the tape,
• 1:50:46
  I think that'll do it for us here on this episode, I'm throw
• 1:50:49
  up the banner. It's his tootles, folks, mainly because it's like said,
• 1:50:54
  I feel like, for the third week in a row, I'm starting
• 1:50:55
  to feel a coffin fit coming on. And then that's not gonna be good
• 1:50:58
  for anybody. Major thank you to miss Bruce Nolan for staying on with me
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• 1:51:05
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• 1:51:09
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• 1:51:19
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