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  Speaker 1: He's reform it.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Welcome after a weekend when foreigners
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  Speaker 2: the penny Wong disgraced Australia, I'll get onto that day
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  Speaker 2: of shame in a second. But also tonight the avenue
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  Speaker 2: is the government. On budget eve, Someding tells us hey,
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  Speaker 2: inflation isn't such a big problem? Are you being conned
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  Speaker 2: by people too desperate to spend? And a third boat
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  Speaker 2: of illegal immigrants caught in just one week? Has the
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  Speaker 2: government lost control of our borders? Also tonight, Megan Markle
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  Speaker 2: tells Nigeria it's just forty three percent Nigeria herself and
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  Speaker 2: Nigeria is a home I mean seriously. Plus the shocking
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  Speaker 2: jew hunting at Eurovision, the bullying of a twenty year
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  Speaker 2: old Israeli singer in Sweden, hunted by a mob outside
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  Speaker 2: her hotel, mocked by other contents, estens boo does she sang?
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  Speaker 2: And threatened foreseeing her to travel in a massive please convoy?
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  Speaker 2: Is this the left today? Plus anger as the pre
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  Speaker 2: Minister crashes a Hawthorne victory celebration. Did he do wrong?
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  Speaker 2: But first, nothing the Pennywong does in the rest of
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  Speaker 2: her political life is going to wipe out her disgrace
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  Speaker 2: on the weekend, getting Australia to vote in the United
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  Speaker 2: Nations to reward the mass murderers and rapists from AMAS. Now,
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  Speaker 2: this decision by our foreign minister is so disgusting, so dishonest,
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  Speaker 2: and so wilfully blind to evil. I can hardly believe it.
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  Speaker 2: Wong has betrayed Israel. Worse, she's betrayed us. The shame
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  Speaker 2: of it now, I know we should also be blaming
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  Speaker 2: Prome Minister in Anthony Albanezi for this, but he just
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  Speaker 2: seems to be Pennywong's doormat. On Saturday, Wong had Australia
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  Speaker 2: vote with other nations to ask the United Nations Security
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  Speaker 2: Council to accept Palestine as a full member of the YUN. Now,
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  Speaker 2: just the timing alone tells you how wrong and how
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  Speaker 2: evil this decision of hers is. I need to give
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  Speaker 2: you a warning here because what I'm about to say
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  Speaker 2: I may be distressing. It should be, and I'm not
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  Speaker 2: even going to show your footage of what really happened.
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  Speaker 2: Wong has offered this reward just seven months after Hamas
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  Speaker 2: terrorists invaded Israel on October seven and slaughtered twelve hundred people,
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  Speaker 2: most of them civilians, raped many women, beheaded men, shot children,
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  Speaker 2: and took two hundred and fifty three hostages. Half of
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  Speaker 2: them are still captive in Gaza, either dead or alive.
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  Speaker 2: Every Islamist terrorist will now get the message AMAS which
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  Speaker 2: runs Gaza, can pack great Jewish women. It can sexually
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  Speaker 2: mutilate them and shoot them. They can kill children in
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  Speaker 2: front of their parents, and Penny Wang will then help
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  Speaker 2: their cause. Former Prime ministers are stunt. Scott Morrison calls
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  Speaker 2: this vote the most hostile policy act of an Australian
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  Speaker 2: government to the State of Israel. This is what the
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  Speaker 2: terrorists want. Tony Abbott says it looks like rewarding the
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  Speaker 2: October seven atrocity, and even Josh Burns, a federal labor
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  Speaker 2: MP and Jewish, said Wong should have abstained instead. He
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  Speaker 2: said this decision will make Jewish Australians are really feeling
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  Speaker 2: persecuted by the way, feel even more isolated. But Wang
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  Speaker 2: dinas she is doing exactly what she is doing. She's
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  Speaker 2: claimed that Hamas would not welcome this vote because, as
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  Speaker 2: part of Australia's push for a so called two state solution,
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  Speaker 2: both an Israeli state and a Palestinian state.
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  Speaker 3: A two state solution both Israel and Palestine is the
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  Speaker 3: opposite of what Hamas wants. Hamas does not want peace
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  Speaker 3: and it does not want long term security for the
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  Speaker 3: for the state of Israel.
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  Speaker 2: And that's just this honest because in a mass a
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  Speaker 2: mass had already embarrassed one but publicly saying no, this
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  Speaker 2: vote was great. It did welcome it, calling it an
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  Speaker 2: affirmation of the international rally around our people. Can you
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  Speaker 2: believe this? The rapists and baby murderers and headcutters are
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  Speaker 2: from us, say Australia's vote is proof that we rally
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  Speaker 2: to their cause. Penny Wong has encouraged them. But Wong
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  Speaker 2: is right on one thing. It's true a mass indeed
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  Speaker 2: does not want Israel to exist. It's actually once that
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  Speaker 2: October seven massacre, what it calls the Alaksa flood, repeated
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  Speaker 2: again and again until Israel is destroyed. Or Michael that
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  Speaker 2: called off a luxe. Here that from a senior member
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  Speaker 2: of the Hamas Politburo. So who exactly does Wong think
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  Speaker 2: will run her Palestine and represent it in the UN
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  Speaker 2: in her so called pathway to a peace? Because there
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  Speaker 2: are only two options. One is the Palestinian Liberation organization
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  Speaker 2: that right now controls the Palestinian Authority which runs the
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  Speaker 2: West Bank. The other is Hamas, which runs Gaza the
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  Speaker 2: other Palestinian territories. You've got to choose. But plot twist there.
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  Speaker 2: Both of these actually want Israel wiped out. Now you
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  Speaker 2: just heard that. Hamas officials say, that's what we want.
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  Speaker 2: The PLO, on the other hand, is the terrorist organization
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  Speaker 2: long run by Yasa Arafat, now by Mamu Dabas who
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  Speaker 2: is elected the Palestinian Authorities president in two thousand and
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  Speaker 2: five and has ban new elections ever since for fear
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  Speaker 2: that Hamas would beat him after really taking over Gaza
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  Speaker 2: gunpoint and Paul say, yes, indeed, Hamas would win any election. Now,
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  Speaker 2: it's true that the PLO, and like Aamasa said in English,
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  Speaker 2: you will recognize Israel's right to exist, but it never
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  Speaker 2: made good its promise to remove from its official covenant
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  Speaker 2: in Arabic, it's called for Israel to be destroyed. That
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  Speaker 2: PLO covenant to this day insists that armed struggle is
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  Speaker 2: the only way to liberate Palestine, and the state of
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  Speaker 2: Illegal is entirely a state of Israel is entirely illegal.
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  Speaker 2: So which of these two groups, each controlling half of Palestine,
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  Speaker 2: each wanting Israel destroyed, does Wong think should represent the
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  Speaker 2: Palestine state that she wants in the UN? Which bunch
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  Speaker 2: of Jew hating terrorists does Wong prefer? But it should
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  Speaker 2: add one more example, the Vong's designed her cynicism. The
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  Speaker 2: UN's own charter says membership Indianated Nations is open to
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  Speaker 2: all peace loving states. You've got to be peace loving.
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  Speaker 2: But which bit of terrorist led Palestine does Wong now
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  Speaker 2: believe is peace loving? Nothing wrong? Says to excuse his
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  Speaker 2: vote makes sense. She's even admitted she made Australia vote
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday for something she didn't even like.
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  Speaker 3: This isn't the way we would have done things, or
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  Speaker 3: the resolution Australia would have proposed.
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  Speaker 2: She didn't want that wording, yet still voted for it,
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  Speaker 2: and AMAS is now rightly taking that as a win.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to ask why did one do something so
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  Speaker 2: stupid and dangerous? Well, I think the answer is clear.
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  Speaker 2: Labor is just desperate to appease Australia. Eight hundred thousand Muslims,
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  Speaker 2: many of them packed into labor seats. But now you
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  Speaker 2: can see the price of that labor appeasement, encouraging terrorists
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  Speaker 2: Australia telling them that rapes and beheadings and mass murder
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  Speaker 2: will help get them what they want from US. At least.
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  Speaker 2: What a day of utter shame. Julemen's the country's top
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  Speaker 2: foreign affairs writer, Greg Sheridan of The Australian. Greg, great
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  Speaker 2: to see you've written about this in Australia today as well.
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  Speaker 2: This vote, Wong says, it's a vote towards a peace solution.
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  Speaker 2: Is she right? No, Andrew.
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  Speaker 4: I think the whole government bears collective responsibility for this,
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  Speaker 4: and it goes to the character of the government at
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  Speaker 4: the moment. It's entirely reactive, it has no traction and
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  Speaker 4: it just makes completely transactional decisions based on the lowest
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  Speaker 4: common denominator in domestic politics. Any two state solution between
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  Speaker 4: Israel and the Palestinians can only come about when the
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  Speaker 4: two parties negotiate reasonable borders and a promise to safeguard
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  Speaker 4: each other's securities. In other words, Palestinians have to put
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  Speaker 4: an end to all claims on Israel and have to
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  Speaker 4: reject terrorism permanently and credibly. Now, I say four times
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  Speaker 4: in history Israel has made the maximum offer to the Palestinians.
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  Speaker 4: I get to the figure of four by including the
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  Speaker 4: initial United Nations partition which was supposed to have two
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  Speaker 4: states Palestine at Israel. And each time these offers have
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  Speaker 4: been met by waves of Palestinian terrorism and sometimes Arab invasion.
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  Speaker 4: For the moment, therefore, Israeli's think a two state solution
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  Speaker 4: is off off the cards. But for anyone to think
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  Speaker 4: you can impose a two state solution out of that
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  Speaker 4: with as you say, Hamas dedicated to the physical distruction
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  Speaker 4: of Israel, fat are not much different, and both both
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  Speaker 4: parts of Palestine inciting tremendous anti Semitic hatred. It's absurd.
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  Speaker 4: It just gives a win to Hamas, who, as you said,
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  Speaker 4: loves this resolution. They can say to the Palestinian people, look,
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  Speaker 4: we may have caused you men's suffering and blood and loss,
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  Speaker 4: but we advanced the Palestinian national cause in a way
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  Speaker 4: that no one else did. So this has validated our tactics.
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  Speaker 4: It's a sign of weakness internationally. It goes against not
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  Speaker 4: only the US and Britain, but most of our South
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  Speaker 4: Pacific partners voted either against this resolution or abstained from it,
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  Speaker 4: and it's a tremendously disappointing development with the Albanese government
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  Speaker 4: because I think it indicates the abdication of any sense
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  Speaker 4: of decent foreign policy out of this government.
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  Speaker 2: Well moan column this morning. I don't think I've ever
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  Speaker 2: had a stronger reaction to a column, the outrage getting
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  Speaker 2: up to two and a half thousand comments one hundred.
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  Speaker 2: The one excuse that apologists give for a Wong that
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  Speaker 2: I can see is one hundred and forty three countries
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  Speaker 2: including Australia, voted yes to this recognition or getting Security
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  Speaker 2: Council to recognize it. America will veto it. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: just name countries including the US voted against it, and
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  Speaker 2: twenty five abstained including Britain. And they say, all this
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  Speaker 2: proves that Wong is right to vote yes issue.
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  Speaker 4: No, what this proves, Andrew, is that at the United
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  Speaker 4: Nations there is a built in Arab African majority. There
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  Speaker 4: are dozens and dozens of Arab and North African and
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  Speaker 4: other Muslim states. There is one Jewish state. So most
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  Speaker 4: nations that the United Nations make the same sort of tawdry,
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  Speaker 4: cynical calculation. They say, well, look, you know, we're going
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  Speaker 4: to get one hundred dislikes if we vote in favor
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  Speaker 4: of Israel, and a hundred likes if we vote with
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  Speaker 4: the Muslim terrorists. So let's vote with the Muslim terrorists.
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  Speaker 4: And a lot of governments know they're doing the wrong thing,
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  Speaker 4: but they go along to get along. It's the path
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  Speaker 4: of least resistance. It means they're not singled out.
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  Speaker 1: But Australia has always been different from that.
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  Speaker 4: We take a values based approach to foreign policy, and
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  Speaker 4: with our partners, the United States and Britain, our closest
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  Speaker 4: strategic allies, we try to act according to some principle
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  Speaker 4: and ever since the foundation of Israel, we've had a
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  Speaker 4: bipartisan position that a two state solution is preferred, but
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  Speaker 4: it can only come about with the negotiation, the successful
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  Speaker 4: negotiation between the two parties. What Labor has done now,
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  Speaker 4: and this is intensely irresponsible, is divide Australia along partisan
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  Speaker 4: religious lines. So almost all the Muslims are anti Israel.
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  Speaker 4: Most of them are not very fanatical about the issue.
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  Speaker 4: Iranian Muslims, Horn of African Muslims, Turkish Muslims are much
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  Speaker 4: less upset about this issue than Arab and North African Muslims.
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  Speaker 4: But in any event, they're all anti Israel. Most of
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  Speaker 4: them are anti Israel. There's one hundred thousand Jews, so
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  Speaker 4: there are more votes in the Muslim corner than in
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  Speaker 4: the Jewish corner. And the Albanesi government has now scorched
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  Speaker 4: a line of sectarian division right down the middle of
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  Speaker 4: Australia because they've taken the Muslim position against the Jewish position.
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  Speaker 4: They would say they're against confessional politics, but that's what
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  Speaker 4: they've effectively done. Labor now sides with the Muslim community,
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  Speaker 4: the Coalition now sides with the Jewish community. This is
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  Speaker 4: a despicable, terrible destructive path for Australia to walk down.
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  Speaker 4: And we walk down it for one reason only, the
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  Speaker 4: Albanesi government's tawdry calculation about votopolitics. And I'd say, Andrew,
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  Speaker 4: it's not even appeasing the eight hundred thousand or more Muslims.
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  Speaker 4: It's appeasing potential Greens voters in the inner city seats,
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  Speaker 4: the same kind of people who voted, you know, for
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  Speaker 4: the Voice of Gaza in the British Council elections. You know,
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  Speaker 4: the dope, ahistorical uneducated university students and graduates, I'd say
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  Speaker 4: uneducated and graduates in the one sentence.
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  Speaker 1: Quite advisedly.
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  Speaker 4: Who might vote against labor because the Greens are more
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  Speaker 4: anti Israel. But if that's Labour's rationale, it's pathetic.
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  Speaker 2: Just speaking of Wong before I go, I need to
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  Speaker 2: ask you about this, Greg. It's now nine days since
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  Speaker 2: China attacked one of our Navy Seahawk helicopters in international waters,
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  Speaker 2: dropping flares above it and in front of it, endangering
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  Speaker 2: our airmen. You know, those nine days since Penny Wong
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  Speaker 2: has not said one single word in public about China's
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  Speaker 2: at not a word of criticism. She encourages Hamasura, says
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  Speaker 2: nothing about China. Can you explain that for us?
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  Speaker 4: Well, it is a striking contrast that you draw, Andrew,
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  Speaker 4: I earn myself personalize it to Wong. These are government decisions,
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  Speaker 4: cabinet decisions now as I understand it, for government has
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  Speaker 4: decided to let defense take the lead in this Chinese matter.
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  Speaker 4: But this is again a measure of weakness, because defense
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  Speaker 4: takes the lead by having most of the dialogue in
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  Speaker 4: private amongst defense officials. So Albanezi made a statement, Miles
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  Speaker 4: made a statement, and that's it. We've called ambassadors in
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  Speaker 4: from other countries for matters far less important than this,
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  Speaker 4: far far less important than this. But here is the
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  Speaker 4: Chinese military intentionally endangering the lives of Australian service men
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  Speaker 4: and women in pursuit who are acting in pursuit of
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  Speaker 4: United Nations sanctions resolutions with the full authority of the
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  Speaker 4: Australian government in international waters. They are endangered by the
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  Speaker 4: aggressive actions of the Chinese military, and our foreign minister
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  Speaker 4: doesn't even call in the Chinese ambassador to issue a
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  Speaker 4: formal day march. Now, this is a government wide decision,
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  Speaker 4: but again it is a pathetic, reactive line of least resistance.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we are mice and we're going to behave
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  Speaker 4: like mice kind of action. And I tell you what,
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  Speaker 4: if the courage of the Albanese government stood between you
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  Speaker 4: and misfortune, you'd want to say your prayers.
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  Speaker 2: Greg Sheridan, thank you so much for your time. I
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  Speaker 2: have to say this has been absolutely a shameful one
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  Speaker 2: of the most shameful episodes in strand foreign policy. Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: But the Albani is your government's actually in big trouble
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  Speaker 2: on another front and has come out with a trick
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  Speaker 2: to bail it out. Now, the government desperately needs tomorrow's
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  Speaker 2: budget to save it because for calling in the polls
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  Speaker 2: because of the cost of living crisis predominantly and the
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  Speaker 2: I guess the sense of drift and elections to due
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  Speaker 2: early next year. So this is big chance, but it's trapped.
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  Speaker 2: The government wants to give handouts because of the cost
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  Speaker 2: of living thing, but if it spends too much, they
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  Speaker 2: don't help boost keep inflation too high. As the Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister actually conceded today to labor in peace.
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  Speaker 5: Importantly, cost of living relief that doesn't add to inflation, indeed,
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  Speaker 5: that reduces inflation, and a tax cut for every single taxpayer,
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  Speaker 5: not just some.
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  Speaker 2: But good news for the government. The government's budget tomorrow
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  Speaker 2: is actually going to say inflation this financial year will
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  Speaker 2: actually be much lower than the Reserve Bank predicted, in
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  Speaker 2: fact predicted just six days ago. Indeed, the government says
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  Speaker 2: inflation by December is going to be just two point
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  Speaker 2: seventy five percent, and that's more than one percent lower
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  Speaker 2: than the Reserve Bank reckoned just a week ago. I'm
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  Speaker 2: assuming that that may be because of something like rebates
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  Speaker 2: and power bills coming up in this budget to bring
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  Speaker 2: down inflation. But I also assume that the government could
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  Speaker 2: then treat this as an excuse to again spend more
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  Speaker 2: than it should, which is wonderful for the government. Joining
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  Speaker 2: me is the Monday Political Panel Michael Kroger, former Victorian
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  Speaker 2: Liberal President, Steve Conroy, former Labour senator and Cabinet minister
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  Speaker 2: Michael Kroger. That's a huge difference really in the scheme
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  Speaker 2: of things between the Government the Reserve Bank. Inflation by December.
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  Speaker 2: The government says two point seven five. The Reserve Bank
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  Speaker 2: says no, three point eight. How to explain that, Well.
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  Speaker 6: Andrew, this is absolutely fascinating, and I'll explain it this way.
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  Speaker 6: At her press conference last week, the governor of the
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  Speaker 6: Reserve Bank was asked by an enterprising journalist did you
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  Speaker 6: discuss at the meeting the day before raising rates? And
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  Speaker 6: she said, we discussed raising rates and keeping them the same.
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  Speaker 6: What's missing from that answer? And so one economist last
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  Speaker 6: week said rates RaSE might be raised three times. That
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  Speaker 6: won't happen. Never any chance of that happening. If there
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  Speaker 6: are two rate rises of say zero point to five
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  Speaker 6: point two five, the government probably won't be re elected.
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  Speaker 6: One rate rise they could probably get away with. But
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  Speaker 6: the government is absolutely desperate to make sure there are
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  Speaker 6: no increases in interest rates, which is why you come
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  Speaker 6: back to the inflation number. I think what the government
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  Speaker 6: of trying to do here is intimidate the Reserve Bank.
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  Speaker 6: That's the only thing I can say. The difference between
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  Speaker 6: the two estimates are so massive. They're trying to intimidate
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  Speaker 6: the Reserve banking to saying to them, we're moving into
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  Speaker 6: a low inflation environment. Don't you dare even think about
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  Speaker 6: raising rates. We're going to two point seventy five at
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  Speaker 6: the end of the year, you know, three eight three
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  Speaker 6: five over the fiscal twenty five year. No, no rates,
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  Speaker 6: inflation's going down, We've got it under control. We're not
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  Speaker 6: spending too much. Don't you dare increase rates? And that's
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  Speaker 6: what they're doing to the Reserve Bank. They're trying to
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  Speaker 6: create a climate, Andrew, where there's no need to increase
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  Speaker 6: interest rates.
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  Speaker 2: That said Stephen Connor. Of course Treasury, I say, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the government's budget papers are allegedly backbone Treasury, so I
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  Speaker 2: presume there's something behind it. Can you explain the difference
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  Speaker 2: between the government.
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  Speaker 7: Sand really simply, Andrew, I can explain it really simply,
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  Speaker 7: the Reserve Bank are clowns okay in the last ten years.
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  Speaker 1: They have a target that's an easy between two and
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  Speaker 1: three percent. Do you know how many times?
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  Speaker 7: Noo? I'm going to actually be fact based about why
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  Speaker 7: are clowns okay?
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  Speaker 1: Last ten years two to three percent?
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  Speaker 7: You know, be times? They've achieved it four times, four times.
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  Speaker 7: That's it, just that they have not got their forecasts right.
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  Speaker 1: Eighty percent of.
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  Speaker 7: The time, eighty percent of the times have got it wrong.
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  Speaker 1: And I was brutal on Philip blow.
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  Speaker 2: On Michelle just asking wrong about it. Yeah, they're wrong,
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  Speaker 2: you say, four times? Are they do? They actually tend
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  Speaker 2: to be wrong by by underestimating.
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  Speaker 7: Information below or above both. That's the problem, both under
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  Speaker 7: wage forecasts for both under and over so interest rates, sorry,
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  Speaker 7: inflation wrong for ten years.
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  Speaker 1: Now, let's talk about wage forecasts.
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  Speaker 7: Of those clowns at the Reserve Bank wrong for ten
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  Speaker 7: years straight.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't get close on.
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  Speaker 7: Wage four coast. They've got them. They they forecasted them
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  Speaker 7: higher and they've been lower. No, they've been they've estimated
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: them higher. The actual real world for ten years.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Has been lower. Now, I said the ten years December, I.
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: Remember low made low playing the good guy you made
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: not that long ago.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I feel I wanted to be the haven't finished.
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Treasury fuecast.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I think you have the clowns.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: They certainly can't.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Clowns. Okay, okay, there are clowns. That's easy. Well that
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: that was solved.
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: Meanwhile, Michael thought and they're factually provably wrong.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: We shall see. The government hasn't had a freak forecast
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: thing record either. Meanwhile, today another boat of the legal
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: immigrants to Michael, the third in the week to land
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: or nearly land in Australia. Three in a week, we've
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: now had five wanders land and it's very close with
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: P and G thirty three at Christmas Island five vietname
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: is now incepted off broom coincidence that we get so
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: many boats in a week. Or is this becoming a
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: serious trend that brings us right back to the rud
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Guillar governments.
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: No, I think it goes back to the rud Guillow governments. People,
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: the people smugglers, who are the most egregious people in
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: the world, run on propaganda and I'm sure they're saying, listen,
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: this government's much more sympathetic to people. You go into
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: jail for a while, into detention for all.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Then they let you out.
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: The courts will let you out.
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: So that's what happened, will be in High court, that's
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: what happens on legislation that Peter Dutton, that's what happens
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: in Australia.
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: You have to be in attention for a while, but
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: that's better than staying wherever you are. You're an attention. Well,
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: then they'll let you out. That's what they'll be selling.
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: That's the message they'll be selling. And everyone knows the
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: Labor Party are hopeless on border protection.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Peter Dunton's legislation.
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: Please Stephen, you let all these people out of detention
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: when you didn't need to. That case related to x
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: y Z, in case related to one person. Let a
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: whole hundred and fifty out.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: What about the blake Peter un't let out of Parliament.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I know they know who has a gun charge, they
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: know what about him.
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: He was he was there week on these issues in
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: the assault and that's poor woman Peter Dutton's let out. Okay,
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: they know Labor have historically been hopeless on these issues,
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: and that's what the people smugglers would run and I
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: want to assume Andrew.
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: It's just embarrassing, Andrew that Peter Dunton let out one
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: of the three people who beat up that poor poor
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: lady in Perth and he had a gun charge you, Steve,
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: and Peter Dunton is responsible for that person.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: Give me a break.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I need to ask you one thing before we go, Stephen,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: the decision of the Albizi government to vote yes to
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: get the UN Security Council to accept Palestine as a
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: member of the u N. HAMAS has welcomed this decision.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Are you embarrassed by Well.
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: I don't take anything that comes out of the mouths
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: of any hamas official other than propaganda. It's not a
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: decision I would have taken no surprise to Andrew. I
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: think an abstention and sticking with the previous position would
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: have been a better.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Place to be.
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: But let's not forget when we talk about and you
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: talked at length correctly about HAMAS and the PLO etcetera.
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: Not recognizing a two state solution not one of your
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: trail to exist.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Well, let's just be very clear who.
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: Else has said they don't want a two stage solution
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: in the last few months and one guy's called Bibby
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: net Now who the Prime Minister of Israel.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: He's consistently refused even you were going around.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I'm just making them, just making the to do that.
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: You both parties on a two state solution of context
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: context in his for a Palestinian state, but not now
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: given what.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Except when said perfectly logical, Stephen, Stephen, this deserves people
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: of the right of labor to actually stand up and
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: announce this disgusting, appalling, embarrassing, shameful and I logical call.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: And I expected better from you. I have to say.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: I just cannot believe this has been done. And how
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: few of the labor right, the once mighty labor right,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: are prepared to call it out. Where's Bill Shorten as well?
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Come on call this stuff.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I just said, Richard, I would have abstained if.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: You're going to pay part of politics on this, if
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I was in a decision making, well, look yeah, and
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: then you turn it on Israel. Please mate. There's too
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: much of that. I've just been more.
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: I'm deep in context to what's happening right now today.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Thanks Andrew, thank you, Thank you to you both. After
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: the break Lynch mob, how a mob of Israel haters,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: including Greta Tunberg, menaced a twenty year old woman, a
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Jewish singer at Eurovision, forcing her to travel in a
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: huge police escort for a safety and related I'll talk
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: to a Zionist who says that being anti Zionist, there's
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: a lot of left to say, Oh I'm not just
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: anti Zionists, is actually too often an excuse for just
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: hating Jews like him. I never thought I'd live to
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: see these changes. We've just seen how ugly the new
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Jew hatred is. Over the last week, during the Eurovision
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Song Festival in Malmoel, Sweden, they got to ask what
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: has the left become? I mean here, we had a
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: twenty year old singer, Eden Golin. She was Israel's contestant
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: and just having her a Jew in the contest, had
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: hundreds and hundreds of anti Israel protesters outside her hotel,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: kicking up a din, trying to intimidate her, stopping her
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: from going outside. They included global woman who regreted Tunberg
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I mean relevant deprivation. There protests also heckled and booed
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Goland as she sang at press conferences. Other contestants, like
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Greece's treated her like dirt, which was getting asked questions.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: You know, pretended to sleep when she spoke, and Ireland's
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I supposed, which when here goes civilization down the toilet?
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Cried when Goland made the semi finals.
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: I cried with my team, And when Finland's jury gave
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: votes to Goland, it's TV anchor refused to pass them on,
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: declaring are the winner instead, quite deliberately.
• 29:02
  Speaker 9: Twelve finds from finished jury goes to Ireland.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I think we have somewhat of a technical problems.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: And she refused to correct herself. The whole thing was
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: so menacing, so hysterical. It was like one of those
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: two men at Hates from nineteen eighty four that Golan
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: couldn't even travel in Malmo. We're up to a quarter
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: of the locals and now Muslim in the Swedish country
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: without this massive police escort. Now, the good news is
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: that while the arts community tree to go on a
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: like scum, the audience watching at home actually gave her
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: the highest popular vote of any contestant. Means she came
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: fifth overall, and this brave twenty year old who wouldn't
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: be intimidated, returned to Israel as a hero. But more
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: than that, really, what she went through would confirm to
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: many Jews that Israel is now the only country where
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: they can still be Jews in safety, and Israel must not.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: And I wonder how anyone on the left can now
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: look and how the mob treated that one lone Jewish woman,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I feel anything but discuss of what this movement has become. Now.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: I hear many people of the left excusing what we've seen,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: say oh no, no, no, you're wrong, Andrew. This is not
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: you hatred, this is people. We're just anti Zionists. We're
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: any people who think Israel has a right to exist.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: We love Jews. Well, I think that's a colm a
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: new label on the old anti Semitism. And joining me
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: is a man who has written about exactly this in
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: the Times of Israel is actually Australian. Jeremy Stowe Linda,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: a principle of Melbourne's Bielick College. Jeremy, thank you so
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: much for joining us. You say in this terrific article,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I urge people to read it. You're a Zionist principle
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: of a Zionist school. Can you explain what zionist means
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: to you?
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Sure?
• 30:54
  Speaker 9: Look, thanks for having me on Andrew, I really appreciate it.
• 30:57
  Speaker 9: Being a Zionist is really an unco troversial and uncomplicated concept.
• 31:02
  Speaker 9: For thousands of years, there's been a Jewish presence in
• 31:05
  Speaker 9: the land of Israel. Jews pray every day to Israel
• 31:08
  Speaker 9: as an important part of its prayer. The Hebrew word
• 31:11
  Speaker 9: for Israel is at sion in Jewish prayer, which is
• 31:14
  Speaker 9: where the word Zionism comes from. So really, all being
• 31:18
  Speaker 9: a Zionist means is is the identification with Israel as
• 31:22
  Speaker 9: a homeland for the Jewish people. And in context, globally
• 31:26
  Speaker 9: there are over two point two point four billion Christians,
• 31:32
  Speaker 9: over one point nine billion Muslims, There's twenty Muslim countries
• 31:36
  Speaker 9: in the Middle East and North Africa, and globally there's
• 31:39
  Speaker 9: just fifteen million Jews. That's it, And all Zionism is
• 31:44
  Speaker 9: is an identification with Israel as a tiny slither of
• 31:48
  Speaker 9: land a third the size of Tasmania for a small population,
• 31:53
  Speaker 9: just fifteen million less than the population of New York.
• 31:56
  Speaker 9: Is the global population of Judaism, and just the belief
• 32:00
  Speaker 9: in that land as a homeland for those people.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: And don't forget the nearly quarter of the Israeli population
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: or in fact, the Palestinians and Muslims. Now, what do
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: you make I'm sure you've heard it too, so many
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: people on the lift, so many protests as saying, how
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: do you call its anti Semits? We're anti Zionists, big difference.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Do you believe them?
• 32:24
  Speaker 9: Well, I'm afraid the majority of the Jewish community simply
• 32:27
  Speaker 9: doesn't accept that and doesn't believe that. It's like saying
• 32:31
  Speaker 9: to a Christian, We're going to dissect part of your
• 32:34
  Speaker 9: identity and faith and tell you what you should believe.
• 32:37
  Speaker 9: It's like saying, hey, we're okay with Christianity, but not
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: with Jesus. Or it's like saying to a Muslim, hey,
• 32:42
  Speaker 9: we're fine with Islam, but just take out the Mecca
• 32:45
  Speaker 9: and the Medina part of it. For Jews, for the
• 32:48
  Speaker 9: majority of Jews, Zionism is an integral part of our identity,
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: our culture, our practice, our belief, our prayer. We pray
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: three times a day to about a return to Zion.
• 33:02
  Speaker 9: We just finished the Festival of Passover, which ended with
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: next year in Jerusalem. It's an incredibly intellectually dishonest and
• 33:11
  Speaker 9: arrogant statement to say that we allow you to be
• 33:16
  Speaker 9: a Jew, but we don't allow you to be a Zionist.
• 33:18
  Speaker 9: And the reality is when the majority of Jews here
• 33:22
  Speaker 9: chance like Zionists are not welcome here, Zionists out what
• 33:26
  Speaker 9: they hear, and we believe what is meant is Jews
• 33:30
  Speaker 9: are not welcome here, Jews out, and there is no
• 33:33
  Speaker 9: place for that in twenty first century Australia.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: But I thought there wasn't. I thought I'd never have
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: to confront this. But how do you explain what you're
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: seeing now? This Jew hatred in Australia.
• 33:50
  Speaker 9: Look, it's gone crazy. And I think what we're seeing
• 33:54
  Speaker 9: is in particular on student campuses but also in city centers,
• 33:58
  Speaker 9: in CBDs, seeing a cohort. And they are a cohort,
• 34:04
  Speaker 9: a cohort of people who think it's nineteen sixty eight,
• 34:07
  Speaker 9: who think this is civil rights, who think it's at Vietnam,
• 34:11
  Speaker 9: and they see this as a as a very binary conflict.
• 34:17
  Speaker 9: They're dressing up, they're cosplaying on.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: What this is.
• 34:21
  Speaker 9: In my view, this is a hit job. This is
• 34:23
  Speaker 9: a hit job by the far left and by radical Islam.
• 34:27
  Speaker 9: And we know it's a hit job because when we
• 34:29
  Speaker 9: look at the protests, if these were people that genuinely
• 34:33
  Speaker 9: cared about values, a human dignity life, Then where are
• 34:38
  Speaker 9: they on darfour? Where are they on Mayanma, Where are
• 34:42
  Speaker 9: they on China and the uigas? Where are they on
• 34:45
  Speaker 9: the rights of women or Lgbtqi people in the Middle East?
• 34:49
  Speaker 9: Where are they on all these things? When they only
• 34:52
  Speaker 9: focus on Israel, And they don't just only focus on Israel,
• 34:56
  Speaker 9: they completely ignore all those others? Do they ignore Hamas? Hamas,
• 35:02
  Speaker 9: which as a prescribed terrorist organization on October the seventh,
• 35:06
  Speaker 9: murdered twelve hundred predominantly Jewish Israelis, mutilated, raped, took hundreds
• 35:14
  Speaker 9: of hostages. When there is no mention of that in
• 35:17
  Speaker 9: these protests, then we know. But these aren't protests just
• 35:22
  Speaker 9: against an Israeli policy. This is anti Semitism.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Look, I wish I'd disagreed with you, but I think
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: every word gold. Jeremy Stodlin, thank you so much for that.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Really appreciated in these troubled times. After the break uproar As,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: the Prime Minister joints a victory had a love and
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Afil club. So what did he do that was so wrong?
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: To an amazing and important wake up from New Zealand.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: You know the Abbegeza government is budget tomorrow is going
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: to talk more about what it's doing to supposedly stop
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: that terrible global warming. And this is after a panic
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: last week about how it's all going this transition to
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: renewable soy oops, we actually need a lot more gas
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: to keep on the lights because wind and solar isn't
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: cutting it. Christ is obviously coming and to see what
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: that crisis will look like. Look at what happened in
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: New Zealand last Friday thanks to the same kind of
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: global warming insanity that's been pushed there by now former
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Prime Minister just Send durn the big hero of the
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: international left on Friday. It was a plea New zealanderst
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: please stop using electricity during the cold snap.
• 36:39
  Speaker 10: Industrial consumers have also been warned, as have line companies
• 36:43
  Speaker 10: that they may need to cut off things like hot
• 36:46
  Speaker 10: water systems temporarily. But if all those actions don't actually help,
• 36:50
  Speaker 10: then Transpower could start switching off power to some parts
• 36:54
  Speaker 10: of the country and that's to prevent widespread and longer outages. Now,
• 36:58
  Speaker 10: this is all a result of the cold snap sweeping
• 37:00
  Speaker 10: across the country.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Coldshow New Zealand, and here's the minister there explaining why
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: there was so little power.
• 37:08
  Speaker 11: We have seen a significant increase in these types of
• 37:11
  Speaker 11: warnings since twenty eighteen, when the last government banned oil
• 37:15
  Speaker 11: and gas exploration. Without that gas to back up when
• 37:19
  Speaker 11: the sun's not shining and the wind's not blowing, we
• 37:23
  Speaker 11: don't have the energy we need as a country.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: In fact, thanks to New Zealand labors bands on new
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: gas projects, New Zealand lost half it's domestic gas production
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: in the last five years. Meanwhile, look at what we're
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: doing to our own Joining me a Daniel Wild, Deputy
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Executive Director of the Institute of Public Affairs is Stieve Chavoua,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: a senior lecturer in history a Caampaion College. Daniel Wild,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: how could governments be so stupid as to destroyed power
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: systems that work without having something reliable to replace them,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Because well, we're in Australia in trouble too, aren't we.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: We're in big trouble.
• 38:00
  Speaker 12: New Zealand shows that net zero doesn't work, Andrew the
• 38:03
  Speaker 12: decommissioning of base low power, the bringing on of wind
• 38:07
  Speaker 12: and solar, the unreliable energy has drastic consequences. We've also
• 38:10
  Speaker 12: seen that in Victoria, half a million homes blacked out
• 38:13
  Speaker 12: because of the commitment to net zero. And it has
• 38:16
  Speaker 12: to be said Andrew here in Australia, both sides of
• 38:18
  Speaker 12: politics share the blame at the state and federal level,
• 38:21
  Speaker 12: where coalition and labor support net zero. It was of
• 38:24
  Speaker 12: course Scott Morrison who signed the country up to net
• 38:27
  Speaker 12: zero without public support, without debate. And the reality is
• 38:31
  Speaker 12: that the more wind and solar onto the system, the
• 38:34
  Speaker 12: faster the prices rise. To give you one example, from
• 38:37
  Speaker 12: nineteen ninety until two thousand and seven, when there was
• 38:40
  Speaker 12: almost no subsidies, energy prices increased by just three percent
• 38:44
  Speaker 12: per year, about what inflation was. From two thousand and
• 38:47
  Speaker 12: seven to today, it's triple that at nine percent per
• 38:51
  Speaker 12: year of energy price rises. And what happened in two
• 38:53
  Speaker 12: thousand and seven Kevin Rudd came in. We had the
• 38:56
  Speaker 12: turbocharging of renewable subsidies and the carbon tax and the
• 38:59
  Speaker 12: Paris clients an agreement and then net zero prices will
• 39:02
  Speaker 12: keep going up until net zero goes down.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Never forget that. Kevin Rudd said, the labor policies that
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: cut our emissions would cost Australians a dollar a year,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: one dollar a year. What did Steve Steve Trevura, there
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: are parallels here. I look at the hatred of Jews
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: in Israel and I see that so many who are
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: feeling this on the you know, on the streets. The
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: young were never taught history, it seems to me, never
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: taught history, never taught the origins of Western culture. And
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: similarly here with the global warming thing, which is again
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: a tribal movement, to really tribal, it seems that no
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: one has taught science. What's what do you think is
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: going on?
• 39:47
  Speaker 13: Oh?
• 39:47
  Speaker 14: Absolutely, And these kinds of sort of tribal movements take
• 39:51
  Speaker 14: hold in history from time to time. I think something
• 39:54
  Speaker 14: that also needs to be said about this because everyone's
• 39:57
  Speaker 14: wondering why is the Australian government just bottling towards energy oblivion?
• 40:02
  Speaker 14: The fact of the matter is, and Nick Cata wrote
• 40:04
  Speaker 14: an excellent piece on this today in The Australian. The
• 40:07
  Speaker 14: renewables lobby groups are possibly the most powerful lobby groups.
• 40:11
  Speaker 13: Ever in Australian history.
• 40:13
  Speaker 14: They are heavily funded of millions of dollars by very
• 40:17
  Speaker 14: murky overseas funders, some of whom are tech billionaires who
• 40:20
  Speaker 14: themselves have shares and interests in renewables.
• 40:24
  Speaker 13: Who knows where some of the other funding is coming.
• 40:26
  Speaker 14: And then these charities start lobbying MPs, They start funding
• 40:31
  Speaker 14: the campaigns of future MPs. They funded the Teals to
• 40:35
  Speaker 14: millions of dollars and they either threaten or they promise
• 40:39
  Speaker 14: political parties to put them in government or take them
• 40:41
  Speaker 14: out of government depending on their renewables policies. And so
• 40:46
  Speaker 14: the Labor government especially is enthralled to these renewable lobby groups. Sadly,
• 40:51
  Speaker 14: as Daniel said, the Liberal Party isn't far behind it.
• 40:54
  Speaker 14: It's a tremendous opportunity for Dutton to push mining and
• 40:59
  Speaker 14: to push new because this this climate hysteria does not
• 41:03
  Speaker 14: come from the Australian people.
• 41:05
  Speaker 13: They're not into it. They would love to.
• 41:07
  Speaker 14: Hear something about mining, something about nuclear, right, Steve, But I.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Just alwayses decades of indoctrine nation are god. I don't know,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: let's hope, but Daniel cultural notes, I mean we talked
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: about one aspect of culture, you know, the the rise
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: of these stupid essentially, I'm being honest with you. There's
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: been an unusually strong backlash of the Prime Minister for
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: joining the huddle to sing the club song when Hawthorn
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: beats and killed her in the AFL on the weekend,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: although it does seem to me that it was perhaps
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: invaded into the huddle buy some players. But I mean,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: you have Channel Nuns Tony Jones feeling a bit sick
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: about what's the big sin here? Why do you think
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: fans and commentators are so upset.
• 41:54
  Speaker 12: Well, Andrew, It's hard to know where the AFL ends
• 41:57
  Speaker 12: and the Labour Party begins these days. I mean they're
• 41:59
  Speaker 12: really one of the same. Of course, Anthony Abernezia points.
• 42:03
  Speaker 12: You know, Sam Moston is the Governor general. Where does
• 42:06
  Speaker 12: she were?
• 42:06
  Speaker 13: She was an AFL commissioner, so you know, the federal.
• 42:09
  Speaker 12: Government, the Labor government gives millions of dollars to the
• 42:11
  Speaker 12: AFL and in return, the AFL promotes all of Labour's
• 42:15
  Speaker 12: favorite policies, whether it's the Voice to Parliament, climate change,
• 42:19
  Speaker 12: indigenous issues. And the reason why fans are upset about
• 42:23
  Speaker 12: this if they have had a gut full of sporting
• 42:27
  Speaker 12: codes dividing our country and the politicization of sport and look,
• 42:33
  Speaker 12: Anthony Albernezi would not know the first thing about AFL,
• 42:36
  Speaker 12: and that's fine. I don't know the first thing about rugby.
• 42:38
  Speaker 12: But for him to use this as a political stunt
• 42:41
  Speaker 12: is why fans are so upset. And it's just another example.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Andrew Stechaver, I'm actually at a time. Have you got
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: something for us in ten seconds to sum up your feelings?
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  Speaker 14: He didn't learn his lesson in twenty twenty twenty two
• 42:56
  Speaker 14: when he was booed off the stage at the Byron
• 42:58
  Speaker 14: Bay Blues Festival. These like a separation between politics and fun.
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  Speaker 13: That's that.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Not just a separation between politics and religion, but also
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: that other religion sport. Stephen trevera well Put and Daniel Wilde,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: thank you both for your time. After the break, Mega
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Markle tells Nigerian's she's one of them and Nigeria is
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: a home, but is it really identity politics? Megamachael style
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: after this, I'm puzzled by something from the Megamachael and
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Prince Harry two of Nigeria. It's two of Nigerian and
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: what's looking like a royal visit and Megamachaele is the
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: clared there declared that Nigeria is actually her country because
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: you just found out from genealogical tests that she's forty
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: three percent Nigerian and this is odd for me at
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: least for several reasons, and not just because her father
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: is white and a mother is some white ancestry too,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: So how did she get to the forty three percent?
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: But anyway, joining me is esther Kraku writer, columnists and broadcast.
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  Speaker 2: It's so great to see you. Look, the issue here
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: is not just that most of Mega Medical's ancestry actually
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: comes from Europe, or that she was raised in America
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: by her father. It's to me trying to claim the
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: year of a country that none of your supposed answers
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: have seen in hundreds and hundreds of years. At what
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: stage does she say, for instance, she's American and home there.
• 44:26
  Speaker 15: Well, this is a sort of diplomacy Alan, Meghan, And
• 44:29
  Speaker 15: it's actually something that you see. You tend to see
• 44:31
  Speaker 15: a lot with African Americans and when they come to
• 44:33
  Speaker 15: parts of particularly West Africa, and you know, they do
• 44:36
  Speaker 15: a genealogy test and they say, look, I'm sixteen percent
• 44:40
  Speaker 15: Cameroonian or whatever. I happen to have done the genealogy
• 44:43
  Speaker 15: test and I couldn't have been more gone in if
• 44:45
  Speaker 15: I tried. But the question is, how does this stuff
• 44:48
  Speaker 15: like this land and does this actually work. So you know,
• 44:50
  Speaker 15: the royal family, for instance, have done many tours. The Queen,
• 44:53
  Speaker 15: the Late Queen herself did many royal tours, and she
• 44:54
  Speaker 15: couldn't go to every single country and say I'm one
• 44:58
  Speaker 15: sixteenth bene or I'm one seventh finish or anything like that.
• 45:03
  Speaker 15: You have to find other ways to connect with people
• 45:05
  Speaker 15: and actually learning about the culture, understanding how people live
• 45:10
  Speaker 15: the challenges of the country face. That's a stronger connecting
• 45:12
  Speaker 15: point than saying that you know you're forty three percent Nigeria.
• 45:15
  Speaker 15: I mean, I agree with you. The master there just
• 45:16
  Speaker 15: doesn't add up. But I don't think people want to
• 45:17
  Speaker 15: delve too deep into that because it's her truth and
• 45:20
  Speaker 15: you don't want to get in trouble for that. But
• 45:22
  Speaker 15: I think it's more the question of you know, this
• 45:24
  Speaker 15: is a kind of blunder you would expect when you're
• 45:26
  Speaker 15: doing that form of diplomacy by herself. And also the
• 45:28
  Speaker 15: trip was a bit bizarre because you know this we
• 45:31
  Speaker 15: have to remember this was on invitation from the Ministry
• 45:35
  Speaker 15: of Chief of Defense Staff and in Nigeria, which is
• 45:37
  Speaker 15: the highest post you can hold in the military, and
• 45:39
  Speaker 15: they were talking about or they were meant to be
• 45:40
  Speaker 15: talking about in Victors Games, and then she goes to
• 45:42
  Speaker 15: give a speech at the school, she hosts a women
• 45:44
  Speaker 15: in leadership contest and conference. Harry's talking about mental health
• 45:48
  Speaker 15: and it's kind of drifting away from the Invictors Games,
• 45:51
  Speaker 15: which is what the trip was actually meant to be about,
• 45:53
  Speaker 15: to kind of this broad, almost presidential pr tour for
• 45:56
  Speaker 15: the Sussexes. And so you did kind of see a
• 45:59
  Speaker 15: split of public opinion. Many Nigerians were thinking, well, this
• 46:02
  Speaker 15: is a bit of a waste of public money. This
• 46:03
  Speaker 15: is not like we're courting a state that can help
• 46:06
  Speaker 15: us with resources. This is kind of like a full
• 46:08
  Speaker 15: royal couple that are there to kind of boost their image.
• 46:11
  Speaker 15: And then you had the other side of the coin,
• 46:12
  Speaker 15: which was, you know, it's great to have them there,
• 46:14
  Speaker 15: and they're kind of the Harry and Meghan and Defense
• 46:17
  Speaker 15: squad and they're just happy that they've broken off from
• 46:19
  Speaker 15: the royal family and doing their own thing. But again,
• 46:22
  Speaker 15: this is the kind of finesse that you would lack
• 46:24
  Speaker 15: of finess, I should say, you would see when someone
• 46:26
  Speaker 15: has kind of torn away from the royal fold and
• 46:27
  Speaker 15: doesn't understand these intricacies of diplomacy.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but It's weird, isn't it? Because Prince Harry, right,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: he could go to Germany and I would bet you
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: is there a lot of money that he would not
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: say to the Germans, I feel at home in Germany.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: This is my home. I am German. Even though he's
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: got much closer bonds, you know, in the Famili's past
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: to Germany, to the Battenberg's and all that kind of stuff.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: He could go to Greece and so I look, my
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: father was the royal family of Greece. They don't do that,
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: but here there's something different.
• 47:05
  Speaker 15: Yeah, here it's more acceptable. And I do think they
• 47:08
  Speaker 15: realize kind of how stuff like that would land for them.
• 47:11
  Speaker 15: It's just you know, oh, it's a fun fact. This
• 47:14
  Speaker 15: is how I connect with you. Look as some I
• 47:15
  Speaker 15: grew up in Ghana, and there was no shortage of
• 47:18
  Speaker 15: people like Megan coming over and saying, look, I'm one
• 47:21
  Speaker 15: sixteenth gun in and we generally ask, okay, do you
• 47:23
  Speaker 15: know anything else about Garna?
• 47:24
  Speaker 13: Do you know how people live?
• 47:25
  Speaker 15: Do you know anything about the languages, the food, anything
• 47:27
  Speaker 15: like that. I think that's a stronger connecting point, actually
• 47:29
  Speaker 15: learning about the people and treating them as full human beings.
• 47:32
  Speaker 15: As opposed to, you know, treating your heritage as some
• 47:34
  Speaker 15: sort of fetish. But again, this is something that I
• 47:37
  Speaker 15: wouldn't hold against her because it's it's very common, and
• 47:39
  Speaker 15: it's it's it's kind.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Of like a bit naive. But you know, if you.
• 47:42
  Speaker 15: Were within the royal family fold, they will know to
• 47:44
  Speaker 15: tell you this is not something that you do. They
• 47:46
  Speaker 15: are stronger connecting points that you can make with people,
• 47:48
  Speaker 15: as opposed to just saying I took a genealogy test
• 47:50
  Speaker 15: and I'm forty three percent Nigeria. What if the other
• 47:53
  Speaker 15: half of the genealogy, you know, fifty seven percent Russian.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Look absolutely correct. It's so patronizing too, I could be
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: one of you just by you know, a little genealogical test.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: And seriously, yeah, Esthercrat, you thank you so much indeed
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: for joining me. Really appreciate it. Honestly, this identity policy
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: is a flight from the white I mean, most of
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: our ancestry is white. Was as you bond with that?
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know, very weird. That's it for me coming
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: up next, Sherry Marxon. Good night,