Latest / The Art of Costume Podcast / House of the Dragon with Emily Stipcak
Transcript
- 0:12When she stepped in front of the old lady Grandma Dragon.
- 0:16I was like, please, I don't please people calling her like
- 0:22meemaw Hello and welcome to the art of
- 0:44casting blogcast. I'm Overjoyed glass the Exon
- 0:48Axiom Spencer Williams. That's some High Valyrian for
- 0:52you Elizabeth. Okay Spencer.
- 0:55Wow, I studied for you. That just came Outta.
- 1:00Nowhere. Dude.
- 1:00Is that really on Duolingo? Yes.
- 1:03I've been doing it every day for about 5 to 10 minutes, but I
- 1:07realized after sober day. Yes.
- 1:10Day. I was like, maybe I should start
- 1:12learning Spanish because I don't think valyrians going to get me
- 1:15very far. Specially the way.
- 1:17You just reacted to my first bit of I was, I was very confused.
- 1:24I didn't understand what was happening for a second and then
- 1:28I remembered aside from that. How's it going?
- 1:34It's going good. I just saw Harry Styles the
- 1:38other night so that I saw that was a good time needed my
- 1:44Saturday to recover from that. I didn't Peg you for a Harry
- 1:48Styles fan. I mean his musics.
- 1:52Amazing. He's amazing.
- 1:54And then like everyone's right once you're there in his
- 1:57presence, something like really feral takes over your body and I
- 2:02just yeah I was one of those. I was one of those people in the
- 2:06parking lot. That was like almost on the
- 2:07verge of tears, something Farrell because it took
- 2:11Something Farrell Spencer. Okay?
- 2:17You don't understand until you go through it.
- 2:19I'm sure everyone listening is nodding their head right now.
- 2:23I'm gonna trust you. I don't really but I will.
- 2:29How are you? I'm fine.
- 2:31I went to a Drag Brunch yesterday so that was a lot of
- 2:35fun. That was fun.
- 2:37Lots of drinks. Lots of drinks.
- 2:40They Had like lots of mimosas, but they had a mimosa called the
- 2:44bitchy witchy mimosa, and I loved, it was like, it was
- 2:49purple and sparkly, and it had like some blueberries thrown in
- 2:55there. So, that was fun.
- 2:57Well, that sounds good right now.
- 2:58I'm thirsty. Is that a bar?
- 3:00Or a bar called the fainting goat, which I found hilarious.
- 3:06Pennsylvania. Where do you think well,
- 3:10Elizabeth. Some good news.
- 3:13Yeah have a special guest with us today, who is one of our
- 3:17guest host. She is one of our good friends.
- 3:21She's also a contributor at the art of costume.
- 3:24She runs so many cool blogs, she works in the industry.
- 3:28Our friend Emily stiff, check, welcome Emily.
- 3:32Welcome, thank you. Good to be here, excited for you
- 3:37to join us. How's it going?
- 3:40So I didn't hear it's going well busy.
- 3:44You know, that's Hollow. Venom yeah.
- 3:47Halloween weekend and crazy time.
- 3:52Did he do anything fun this weekend?
- 3:54Besides doulas with us? Yeah, this is the only fun thing
- 3:58that's in my life right now. I'm getting pretty up there
- 4:03though. My friend had a Halloween party
- 4:06last night which was pretty fun, knows about it because I Is
- 4:10clearly in bed, Elizabeth was at Drag Brunch.
- 4:13So I need to live through you. Well, I spent the day trying to
- 4:17figure out my last minute, Halloween costume, nice and
- 4:20there. Yep, it was a struggle, but we
- 4:23did it. I used most of my friends
- 4:25clothing and wigs and I was Wanda, you know, Cosmo and Wanda
- 4:31nice, boyfriend of supposed to be Cosmo but there was an issue.
- 4:39We couldn't find. And the stuff in time.
- 4:42So I was divorced. Wanda, Wanda is the best part of
- 4:50the Fairly OddParents. Let's just all admit that.
- 4:52This true, this is true. With that being said, we brought
- 4:58Emily here because we have a huge episode ahead of us.
- 5:01Yeah, a million and two costumes and we need someone who's an
- 5:06expert. In all things Game of Thrones
- 5:08and House of the dragon, that being said, Elizabeth for
- 5:11watching House of the Dragon. Yeah, yes, Emily.
- 5:15What did you think? Um that ending so good.
- 5:22Right and the costumes were chefs kiss?
- 5:28Yeah couldn't have said it better.
- 5:32I mean this show was amazing. I feel like we all were kind of
- 5:37nervous. I don't know, because Game of
- 5:38Thrones didn't end very well for some people.
- 5:40Apple. I'm not one of those people.
- 5:42I still think it's an well there's a lot of pressure on the
- 5:46house of the Dragon. If it would have been bad.
- 5:49It would have been over, you know, Game of Thrones would have
- 5:51been totally done and it exceeded expectations for me.
- 5:56It definitely exceeded expectations.
- 5:59I mean I was excited as soon as they announced that Matt Smith
- 6:03was going to be in it. I was like, okay, well this like
- 6:07at least I'll have Matt Smith even if nothing else is good.
- 6:10And then they just like blew it out of the water. - I was
- 6:14actually like, when I heard it was Matt Smith, I was like,
- 6:17unsure about it and then really. All right, so I haven't seen him
- 6:21in a ton of stuff, which is probably my problem.
- 6:24But okay when I saw him like first episode, I was like oh God
- 6:29he's so good. So yeah perfect they did a great
- 6:33job. I was coming the same camp as
- 6:36Emily. I was like Matt Smith and then I
- 6:37saw morbius and I was like Matt Smith.
- 6:40And then this came out, I was like Matt Smith, Never bet
- 6:45against Matt Smith, he is superb.
- 6:50But before we spoil anything Spencer, do you want to get a
- 6:53summary? I do nearly 200 years before the
- 6:58events of Game of Thrones the targaryens, and the realm are
- 7:01divided by King. Viserys has decision to name.
- 7:05His daughter rhaenyra are to the realm despite having Sons by his
- 7:09second wife after years of Listen, miscommunication and
- 7:13Allison's, pettiness. I wonder who wrote this.
- 7:16The House of the Dragon is on the brink of Civil War and that
- 7:20is out of the Dragon. Elizabeth, did you write this
- 7:23summary? Yeah, I did.
- 7:29It's spoilers from here on out and like I'm sorry, this is all
- 7:32Alison's pettiness because she just could not go talk to her
- 7:36friends back in the day. That's all, that's all this is.
- 7:40Is so true. It's a very bad game of
- 7:43telephone. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
- 7:47Exactly. But let's get to the good part
- 7:51and go behind the Wardrobe. We have series creators, Ryan J,
- 7:56kondal, and George r.r. Martin with costume designer,
- 8:02Jenny tamim, which Spencer, Hey, we've had her on the show before
- 8:08for the Black Widow episode. Here, we're big fans of zany.
- 8:12She does not miss with her costumes.
- 8:15She doesn't. And you can tell that just from
- 8:18her notable work of Harry Potter, and the Prisoner of
- 8:21Azkaban, Bridget Jones Diaries Edge of Reason, Harry Potter
- 8:26Goblet of Fire Children of Men, Harry Potter, and the Order of
- 8:30the Phoenix, which she got a costume designers, Guild award
- 8:34Harry Potter, and the Half-Blood Prince, Harry Potter, and the
- 8:36Deathly Hallows part 1 and 2 part 2.
- 8:39She also got A costume designer Guild award for Skyfall, another
- 8:44costume, designer, Guild award, Judy, and black widow.
- 8:48And I think like 90% of the Harry Potter she worked on got
- 8:53nominated for Oscar Sonny does not miss.
- 8:58She is a costume killer. Yeah.
- 9:01Just beautiful work. And when I heard she was
- 9:03attached to this show, I re was like I'm so ready.
- 9:07They needed someone like her because they had to create 2500
- 9:12costumes for the show, so they couldn't have somebody who was
- 9:16messing around and Jenny told toddler that she wanted to
- 9:23create a beautiful version of something, that viewers would be
- 9:27interested in wearing themselves.
- 9:29One way. People connect with characters
- 9:31is if who they see on-screen resembles them and so some way.
- 9:37So you need to draw inspiration from many places, Has.
- 9:41So she was like we are recapturing.
- 9:43This audience mission accomplished mission
- 9:47accomplished and the showrunner is also for like, okay, we got
- 9:51to recapture this audience. Create a whole new look because
- 9:55Jenny said to Vanity, Fair France that right away.
- 9:59The showrunner said to me. It's spring.
- 10:02Winter hasn't arrived. Yet it wasn't winter is coming,
- 10:05but spring is there and Game of Thrones.
- 10:08There were a lot of black and gray color.
- 10:10Lawyers they wanted renewal, which you can totally see in the
- 10:14show. When for that besides, you can
- 10:17see that totally makes sense that I'm thinking back on.
- 10:19It Game of Thrones was very dark.
- 10:21You would never see like bright Reds like rhaenyra, where's or
- 10:24bright greens. That would have been startling
- 10:26and Game of Thrones know. Like, when I thought about that,
- 10:29like, even thinking of like Daenerys, you never see her in a
- 10:33bright red. It's always like very dark Reds.
- 10:37She like she wears and she never wears anything fully.
- 10:40Ed and the show, I don't think, but in this they have color
- 10:46left, right? And Center.
- 10:48Also, in terms of creating a whole new look, Jenny spoke to
- 10:53Vanity Fair, France. Some more saying the story takes
- 10:57place at the height of the Targaryen civilization.
- 11:00So, to show it, I used a lot of elements from the Renaissance
- 11:05and I also worked on a lot of Oriental elements like long
- 11:09Moroccan ear. Rings or The Gold of the
- 11:12byzantines. I had other underlying
- 11:15influences for the cuts. For example, I found a samurai
- 11:19skirt and thought the character of Matt Smith.
- 11:22Absolutely had to wear a skirt. A warrior and pants is boring.
- 11:29So she was like pulling out all the stops for this show.
- 11:33That's a solid quote, but talking of Matt, Smith's
- 11:39character, Spencer Shay. We take a little break before we
- 11:42jump into Damon. Yeah, I need to take a little
- 11:45break and start putting my dragon eggs on the fire or
- 11:49something, I don't know. Yeah, if we're going to take
- 11:52over the world. Spencer, you got to start
- 11:54hatching those dragon eggs. And we are you ready for this?
- 11:58I am, I think I am. Okay.
- 12:19What's up costume, nerds? This is Spencer co host and
- 12:22producer of The Art accosting. Blogcast, thank you so much for
- 12:26listening to this episode. We greatly appreciate all the
- 12:29support. If you want to continue in your
- 12:31support, you can become a costume.
- 12:33Even at patreon.com slash the art of costume.
- 12:36There, we post, unheard bloopers highlights and bonus episodes
- 12:39for our costume. Avens, you can even chat with
- 12:42other listeners and vote on future episodes head over to The
- 12:46art of costume and subscribe now.
- 13:06Alright, friends, are you ready to get into the house of the
- 13:09Dragon? Yeah, the show starts with this
- 13:13crazy opening, it's all of 15 seconds, long, but already are.
- 13:17We knew we were in for something amazing.
- 13:21Is that the Kings moment where he's supposed to choose his next
- 13:25are, So they've been really nice but he chose good Ovis Aries and
- 13:29you know, starts the whole story but just I wanted to talk about
- 13:33this real quick because I don't know what you guys thought, but
- 13:36when I saw all these costumes, I already was like, yeah, this is
- 13:39going to be awesome. Yeah, this for you, like you
- 13:42said, it's like, 15 seconds but that first 15 seconds tells you
- 13:46everything. It's like, okay, this is going
- 13:48to be messy. And there's going to be drama
- 13:51and everybody's going to look gorgeous.
- 13:53Yeah. All the way through 100%.
- 13:56And the kit just the King sitting on his throne so Regal
- 14:00and then it doesn't it like zoom out and you see more.
- 14:03Yeah. See like all the soldiers lining
- 14:06the room and people and the sets and it's crazy so good.
- 14:12I want to go back and watch it now because I don't really
- 14:14remember like this first episode was such a whirlwind and now
- 14:17looking back at everything we've gone through.
- 14:20Yeah, probably after this podcast, I will yeah.
- 14:23Same same Just like dang looking at this.
- 14:27And like, all this messiness could have been avoided.
- 14:30If they, he just named his daughter are because then she
- 14:34already had her son, he would have been next in line.
- 14:37Everybody would have been happy. Yeah.
- 14:41But one person who is never happy.
- 14:44We have Damon. Oh, man, I became a fast Damon
- 14:50fan. I think, by the first episode I
- 14:52already was like, okay, no, that's not true.
- 14:55Second episode Because First episodes when he does that
- 14:58street cleaning, yeah. Like I I'm like kind of upset
- 15:10with how much I like Damon but like you can't help but love him
- 15:14and Jenny really loves. Damon.
- 15:18She talked to Vanity Fair about him a little bit.
- 15:22She said he was Sublime to dress.
- 15:26A sexy villain is superb. I love dressing men in general
- 15:31doing men's tailoring. I can't stand the shapeless
- 15:35baggy, Trend. I love a well, drawn body.
- 15:39So she was like ready to dress Matt Smith, Emily.
- 15:46What did you think of Damon's costumes?
- 15:48I love them. Especially, I mean even these
- 15:50three pictures just that the detail in the middle and his
- 15:55what was the The armor that he wore when he got the note from
- 15:59the King and it's like, yeah, that's so solid.
- 16:04I just love all the textures. I love the use of dragon scale
- 16:08and all the Targaryen looks. Yeah.
- 16:11Yes, but I think my favorite was that night armor.
- 16:14He wears that is some solid armor.
- 16:18I'd love some good armor. The armor and this was excellent
- 16:24Janine told Tyler. Or even though I loved the
- 16:28armor, it was difficult to design Damon's armor especially
- 16:32because I thought it was extremely important when it
- 16:35comes to his helmet. I didn't want to do just any
- 16:39kind of mask. I wanted to create a sexy Dragon
- 16:43helmets, aren't the prettiest and it's hard to create a
- 16:47beautiful face on a mask, but we succeeded, Yeah, I agree.
- 16:53That armor was so cool. I was in same and like I love
- 16:59all the detail, the dragon face and just how it changes in each
- 17:05situation like the fancy. Like Knight armor for
- 17:09tournament, the like really bulky gold cloak where it's
- 17:13like, yeah, I'm here to be intimidating.
- 17:16And then the much more practical like at wore armor.
- 17:19Like he has an armor for every occasion.
- 17:21Asian. Yeah.
- 17:22Yeah, the armor. He wears to go meet the crab
- 17:25feeder. That's some solid.
- 17:29So good, so good. I will say, my only thing is
- 17:34Damon's wigs are just they take me out of it.
- 17:37Like ever so slightly till the end.
- 17:40Yeah. By the end you're you get used
- 17:42to it but that first time you see him you're like what is
- 17:45happening with your kind of like long hair on that smooth like
- 17:51not Biggest fan, but like it by the end like they've got a good
- 17:56look for him but also like that's part of like kind of like
- 17:59Damon's Evolution because it's like he's got like his
- 18:02rebellious like younger Targaryen like brother phase or
- 18:07he's just like trying to win his brother's approval.
- 18:11But like in his way, not the way that would actually work and
- 18:15then he acts like he doesn't care and like goes off across
- 18:19the sea, which I like his, like you.
- 18:21During that time period, he never wears anything like black
- 18:25or red like nothing to indicate he's a Targaryen because he's
- 18:29like well I'm never going to be king So by and then he comes
- 18:34back around and he's back in black and looks better than
- 18:37ever. And now he's just like our
- 18:42favorite husband, who also abuses rhaenyra, but like I
- 18:49think between Seasons, we all need to take Hard.
- 18:52Look at ourselves as to why? Yeah, like Damon so much.
- 18:58Really sad. Somebody.
- 19:00I don't ever feel bad about liking is King.
- 19:03The series was like what? What a sweet old man.
- 19:09He's such a lovable guy. I just I saw in him like there
- 19:13was times where he did things in here like that wasn't a good
- 19:15decision but like he honestly has good heart like Ooh, all of
- 19:21these decisions except for the very first episode kind of a
- 19:25rough episode for him. Yeah.
- 19:28But from that point forward you could just see that he's just
- 19:31really over the family drama, just wants things to be peaceful
- 19:34and move on. That's why they called the
- 19:36series to Peaceful. Yeah, I don't know if it's that
- 19:38cool but name but I respect that he's like hey I kept shit.
- 19:44Calm can any of you say the same?
- 19:46Yeah but Ginny also loved dressing.
- 19:50The saris I said I readapted him for the long sleeveless jackets
- 19:57that suit men so. Well, I use it for the Death
- 20:00Eaters and Harry Potter. It gave them a real Elegance.
- 20:04Men walk elegantly as soon as they wear a Long Jacket they
- 20:08show their silk caress their velvet.
- 20:13I noticed the same Coquette Coquette tree in the actresses
- 20:18as in the actors so she Was like, I'm making him look good
- 20:23so that he is Regal and like, loves his clothes, which he
- 20:28does. He dresses.
- 20:29Well, yeah, I love his costumes. I especially loved all his
- 20:34shoulders to what is that? Like shoulder cut, but they do
- 20:38so well in Game of Thrones like this light.
- 20:41I don't know. Badass sleeve.
- 20:43It's like a badass Game of Thrones sleeve.
- 20:45I don't know how to explain it, but his good name.
- 20:49It's like a variation of like a cat.
- 20:51Sleeve. I think.
- 20:53Yeah, and I do love all the studying and viserys is, looks
- 20:58it did remind me of the Death Eaters, which is pretty badass
- 21:02too, because the Death Eaters use like a lost studying.
- 21:05So I see that inves aires. I like it because it's like,
- 21:10pretty simple. What looks like it's simple.
- 21:12But it has, it actually has a lot of detail to it.
- 21:15And it's like, I don't know. I feel like it fits him because
- 21:19he's not one for like, Crazy over-the-top fashion statements,
- 21:25right? Yeah.
- 21:26The fleas little bit more like cool and collected.
- 21:29It's all about the small details.
- 21:30What he should have been worrying.
- 21:32Was some armor saying on that chair, though?
- 21:34Because clearly that was a mistake for him.
- 21:38Yeah, yeah. He he did not judge well,
- 21:43protective way. Who should also be wearing some
- 21:48protective wear now. Auto Hide.
- 21:51Our yeah, protect me from, who you from me from Rainier as
- 22:01coming after his ass. You know, she is now.
- 22:04Yeah, I do, Hightower sucks. Yeah.
- 22:08Really one of those characters. Yeah.
- 22:11I think I hate him more than anyone else in the show by far,
- 22:15whenever she even sinkhole. I think it's so cool.
- 22:19And then him, Now it's still Auto and then Circle for me.
- 22:25Okay? Yeah.
- 22:26Cuz he's manipulated alicent within like an inch of her life.
- 22:32He's the reason for all of this to me.
- 22:35Yeah, he is the problem. Allison.
- 22:37And Kristen are just like a part of his master plan.
- 22:41That's true. I feel gross.
- 22:44I feel gross. That's true.
- 22:48And when Jenny was talking, Vanity Fair France.
- 22:53She talked a lot about like how she collaborates with actors and
- 22:58when she was dressing Reese, who played Auto Hightower, she said
- 23:05she ended up having a conversation where he told her.
- 23:08I want a collar between Karl Lagerfeld and the shirt.
- 23:13I wear in Ibiza. It was his way of telling me he
- 23:17wanted a collar that was a bit higher but still open.
- 23:21He however, he cannot wear armor.
- 23:23It suffocates him physically. So we made a half armor.
- 23:27It's very important to listen to actors and bring the costumes to
- 23:31life. I don't work for Madame to sews,
- 23:34so she was, like, I need to work with these people to make it
- 23:38something, they're comfortable. And but that also, you know,
- 23:41works for the show and I gotta say, I like the high open
- 23:45collar, because it makes it even more menacing than he already
- 23:48is. Yeah.
- 23:52The otter costume is pretty nice.
- 23:54I will give him that, it does look very sophisticated.
- 23:58He does like a little bit more wise and scholarly I love to
- 24:03textiles it kind of reminds me of what Tyrion where's and Game
- 24:06of Thrones actually who they both end up being hand of the
- 24:09king. Yes, yeah.
- 24:13Yeah. Absolutely.
- 24:14And it cuz it's like, until he's like pushing Alison to like, you
- 24:19know, overthrow renier Like he is like he's a smart guy like he
- 24:24does seem to want the best until he's thrown out because he like
- 24:29can't get past the fact that his grandsons won't be, you know
- 24:33King. Yeah.
- 24:35But it doesn't matter because we have sweet.
- 24:38Young Alison played by Emily Carrie.
- 24:43I miss this Allison. I Young elephant was so cool.
- 24:53I mean she obviously makes horrible decisions but I I do
- 24:57not hate Alison as much as everyone else.
- 24:59Hates Allison. I hate older Allison.
- 25:04I don't hate this younger alicent.
- 25:07There's like there's like a difference.
- 25:08There's a difference. That's for the younger elephant.
- 25:12Yes. Absolutely.
- 25:15But like, I love her wardrobe because it really shows like a
- 25:19transition from like, Just this young noblewoman, very modest
- 25:25covered up, you know, very light colors to you know as soon as
- 25:31the King dies her dad's like put on your mother's gowns which you
- 25:35know very dark colors. A bit like bit more revealing
- 25:39like pulled closer to the body, like very very mature compared
- 25:44to like her loose Cuts with like the long sleeves, she like long
- 25:50billowy sleeves. He was wearing before.
- 25:52Yeah, my favorite costume of hers is that blue one?
- 25:55That has all the, like, rectangular cut outs and the
- 25:58collar. That's a beautiful one.
- 26:00Yeah, that's a beautiful dress. I'm one of her more, I guess.
- 26:04I see more pictures of pictures of this one on the internet than
- 26:07any others. Yeah.
- 26:08Because it's really, it's really a beautiful gown in it.
- 26:11It's like sexy and revealing, and like a Game of Thrones way.
- 26:14I feel like that's what it was but that as she's Queen, she's a
- 26:20neat old. Grazia.
- 26:22When Alison is first married and she is being a nice wife before
- 26:26she discovers things are rotten in her kingdom.
- 26:29She is dressed up in black and red as a queen cause she was
- 26:35like, I'm a Targaryen now. Like, this is, this is what I'm
- 26:40supposed to do, dressing, red and black to support my king.
- 26:46She said, we could act the part for a little bit.
- 26:49Yeah, because she's not acting up.
- 26:51First she really is like as enthusiastic as one could be,
- 26:55she is ready to go for it and you know she's a family person.
- 26:59She wants to have kids dress. Like I mean who doesn't want to
- 27:02be the queen of Westeros? Yeah she doesn't like she
- 27:06doesn't think twice about the fact that Rooney or is going to
- 27:08like inherit the Kingdom. She's just like trying to be a
- 27:12good wife and mother, but I do love her Cuts because they're
- 27:16like, they're very maternal, they're very modest like even
- 27:21Like her v-neck is very like, it only seems extreme.
- 27:25It's not really, it's actually quite shallow.
- 27:29She has all like these squared off necklines, like nothing.
- 27:32Nothing reviewing at all. About her costumes, right?
- 27:37Emily? What did you think of young
- 27:39elephants costumes? I really liked them.
- 27:43I this like I liked the, the one that had like the woven talk,
- 27:48the white one where she wore to the Tour de Oh yeah.
- 27:52I like that woven detail and I liked that.
- 27:55You could see the change from when she liked her, the change
- 27:59in her mindset through her costume later on.
- 28:02Right. That's a very good point,
- 28:04actually, I think for her more than any other character, you
- 28:07could see her mindset through her costumes especially when she
- 28:11switches to that green dress before he switched before they
- 28:16go through the Aging up process. Yeah, absolutely.
- 28:21And for that green dress Janee. Actually got a lot of
- 28:25inspiration from Queen Elizabeth very vibrant wardrobe.
- 28:30She said took Rosie a in this world.
- 28:34One of the only ways for Alison to express themselves is color.
- 28:40I remember when click Queen Elizabeth were a blue hat in the
- 28:44middle of brexit that was her subtle way of saying she was
- 28:47against brexit, so of Queen. Elizabeth is doing it.
- 28:51Why shouldn't Alison appear in a full green to say?
- 28:56No I am a high tower before I am a Targaryen so I was like that's
- 29:06Badass costume is lying, right there?
- 29:08Yeah. Have you seen all the
- 29:11comparisons? First of all, I love this dress
- 29:14is a beautiful dress. The second song was like wow.
- 29:16That's like a showstopper. Yeah.
- 29:19But have you seen all the comparisons of Of this alicent
- 29:22to like Fiona and Shrek. Yeah, I mean you have to see it.
- 29:25Yeah, comparisons in general are hilarious.
- 29:34It's just so they're like you can't look away because there's
- 29:38something and Shrek for everything that happens in House
- 29:40of the Dragon. There was also another thing
- 29:44that happens in Shrek and house the dragon a wedding for
- 29:47alicent, but we don't get to see it and I'm totally Gonna buy the
- 29:52box set because there is this beautiful wedding gown.
- 30:00Janine told Vanity Fair that there's one costume missing
- 30:05because the scene was cut, Allison's wedding dress, that's
- 30:09a shame. She was white with red sleeves
- 30:12or so show that she was part of the family house.
- 30:17Her geryon, you shouldn't cry for a costume that goes away,
- 30:20but hey, Hey, I really cried. This is a gorgeous piece and I'm
- 30:27so sad. We don't get to see it.
- 30:30I would Grant to it's so beautiful.
- 30:33I can't believe we got the foot fetish scene, but not the
- 30:37wedding scene. Right?
- 30:39Right. We can't have like one, happy
- 30:44wedding scene. Like, I guess they're like, no,
- 30:46we don't do happy wedding. So only do sad violent wedding.
- 30:52Unless you're marrying. Your uncle s.
- 30:53You're marrying. Your uncle.
- 30:55That's right. Speaking of we have young
- 31:00rhaenyra played by Millie Alcock and she is one person who just
- 31:05like in the show, she knows who she is.
- 31:08And like, isn't going to change for anybody, or any situation
- 31:13through this whole thing. Yeah, I loved Millie, by the
- 31:17way, this girl deserves an Emmy, she killed it.
- 31:21As rhaenyra so good and all her costumes were badass.
- 31:25One of my personal favorites is the one she wore to the
- 31:27tournament. Yeah, dramatic.
- 31:30Huge collar. Yeah, the Hat.
- 31:33That's a badass costume. I just fell in love with it
- 31:36immediately. That's a great one.
- 31:38I also loved the one. She wore to the hunt where it
- 31:42was going to say the same thing. Yes.
- 31:45Because it's like, it's so strong but so feminine and her
- 31:49it's like perfect. Yeah, and then when she's all
- 31:52bloody and like, oh yeah, that's a good scene, I love it and she
- 31:59sees like the white stag and she totally forgive me.
- 32:02I get out of here. I like this is badass.
- 32:05Queen energy. Everyone it is and the badass
- 32:10Queen energy continues with her investor Char.
- 32:15Jenny told grazia that I was inspired by the Moroccan bride.
- 32:21When I was designing for the rhaenyra investiture costume, I
- 32:26found an old image and I, and she had very long earrings and
- 32:31something on the head that image just stayed with me, I wanted
- 32:36the dress to look quite frail. We see her getting dressed and I
- 32:41want the first image to be of a girl.
- 32:44After that, she put the cape on and I wanted the cape to look
- 32:49heavy. It actually was But putting the
- 32:52cape on, she put the whole Kingdom on top of her shoulders.
- 32:57Well yeah, it's that costume is so stunning and I totally see
- 33:03that two of the cape. It is so heavy.
- 33:05She has a whole Kingdom on her shoulders kind of I mean it gets
- 33:08ripped off of her but in that moment she is the whole Kingdom
- 33:11on top of her shoulders, she does and I love the Moroccan
- 33:17inspiration. She said To toddler that.
- 33:22It was the second hardest costume was raining as
- 33:27coronation dress because she wanted it to look antique for
- 33:31the time and something that was cultural but not too
- 33:36recognizable. She said their world is
- 33:39completely fantasy and it's difficult when you're trying to
- 33:44create a unique antique and special dress.
- 33:48So it's like this was supposed to be like Iced down peace and
- 33:52she was like, oh, you know, we don't really have like a Visual
- 33:55History for for this Kingdom. So she was like, gotta make this
- 34:02look old but still part of the world.
- 34:04Yeah, this might be one of my favorites.
- 34:08It's definitely up there. Mmm, potential one costume to
- 34:13rule them all for Emily potential.
- 34:15For sure. I love that because it is, it
- 34:20just like I love it too. Because in this moment she's
- 34:23like completely deciding who she wants to be and like there's no
- 34:27going back for her after this. Yeah.
- 34:30Um also a scene that was really no going back from is her first
- 34:35wedding. Her first her first wedding and
- 34:42in this scene I feel you can see a lot of like the Byzantine
- 34:45inspiration Jeanine had she said to grazia it was important to
- 34:49think about the Time because the gold means power, the rubies and
- 34:55emeralds as well. Everything means wealth.
- 34:58And I feel like before the whole like fight breaks out, like her
- 35:04father, is whole plan with this because it was supposed to be
- 35:06like, what? Seven days like leading up to
- 35:08the wedding, something like that.
- 35:10It was going to be a party week in King's Landing.
- 35:13Now the party weekend King's Landing was supposed to show
- 35:16them like Hey we're wealthy were powerful.
- 35:19Like no, you're not. Not happy, she's going to be
- 35:22your next ruler, but everything's going to be okay.
- 35:25And I feel like that's really what this this outfit shows,
- 35:28even though it wasn't supposed to be her wedding gown though,
- 35:31it's very Bridal, especially as we know it.
- 35:34And I love the like the cape that's supposed to be, the one
- 35:39he puts on her shoulders, with the with the Valerian crass, and
- 35:43the Targaryen on the same Cape. I loved that.
- 35:47Yeah, it's such a cool element. It's so beautiful to look at and
- 35:50I The way that the black and the blue work together, I really do
- 35:54love house, Valerian and House Targaryen together.
- 35:57Yeah, they're just like a good group of people together, hmm,
- 36:01But I love that eventually wedding dress, that she wears
- 36:08and just the text on. It was so beautiful and it just
- 36:11looked she looks so young. But also so Queen alike, I don't
- 36:15know. It was great, that whole
- 36:17episode, I was stressed, it was a wedding episode and they
- 36:21honestly, barely remember like the first 40 minutes because I
- 36:24was just like, oh no, there's a, what, what's gonna wish they had
- 36:30left in like, Alison sweating and just made it like a nice
- 36:34wedding. So that like, when this comes
- 36:36with like, oh, maybe things are going to be okay, we had a
- 36:39wedding, it was fine, but one gave us a little bit.
- 36:44Yeah, exactly. Maybe it's too obvious.
- 36:47Like they knew that we would see that they would be like, okay,
- 36:49we gave him something nice. Now, it's about to go south
- 36:52exactly what I do. Love about this dress though, is
- 36:56cuz, like, the valyrians, they're all about like being
- 36:59semen. The ocean, this dress, like has
- 37:02like that, like, netting pattern on its own like, oh, that's like
- 37:06the Valerian then it has all these like like gold details and
- 37:10rubies, and that's Targaryen and like I love that shit through
- 37:13all the pieces of this costume, like she's communicating like
- 37:17yeah, she's going housefull Aryan but she's still a
- 37:19Targaryen who's To be your ruler especially with the cloak
- 37:25because in the Game of Thrones when Sansa gets married to
- 37:29Tyrion and they have the cloak with like the lion head on the
- 37:33back to be like, nope, she's a Lannister now.
- 37:38With this cloak, they're kind of saying the opposite.
- 37:40They're like, no. She's always gonna be a
- 37:42Targaryen with the Targaryen and the Valerian crests on here.
- 37:46I mean, potential wedding ideas for myself, honestly, like I'm
- 37:50learning. Truly necklace.
- 37:56Oh, I just want to give a little shout out to that necklace.
- 38:01Yeah. Gorgeous jewelry game in the
- 38:04show, is next level. Yes, absolutely.
- 38:08Oh, man. Before we go to break, we need
- 38:11to talk about Sir. Kristen, just real quick.
- 38:13Let's get over with sir. Crispy Yasser crispy.
- 38:20He had his Well, we all loved him, the first couple episodes,
- 38:23didn't we? Yeah, it was like, a full 180 on
- 38:26my feelings for sir crispy. Yeah, I've never not liked the
- 38:30characters so fast from like one single episode, you know, yeah,
- 38:36lack of communication. Once again, also, he just
- 38:40couldn't handle rejection, I guess.
- 38:51Shin sir, Kristen where's the armor of, you know, the
- 38:55kingsguard and protecting rhaenyra and I just think it's a
- 38:59good moment to shout out. All the king's guard armor with
- 39:01the white cloaks very solid armor.
- 39:06It sucks thing it on Kristen but anyone else who wears around
- 39:09like that is some badass armor. It absolutely is.
- 39:14And it's like, it's elegant yet practical.
- 39:18Like, I like that, that part of it.
- 39:21Yeah, and I loved it. The cloak detaches.
- 39:24I don't know why but I just write satisfying to me when one
- 39:29of the characters at the end like just pulled his cloak off.
- 39:32I was like, wait what? Yeah, I don't know but it's
- 39:45cool. But are you ready for a time
- 39:49Jump after our Break, let's take a break.
- 39:53So our characters could age of 20 years. 10 years multiple
- 39:58times like 50 kids, 50 kids age of two or three times divorce a
- 40:06wedding yet. All that.
- 40:07Let's take a break. Hello, blogcast listeners.
- 40:26It's Elizabeth Joy glass co host and producer of the Arctic
- 40:29oscillation blogcast. If you're like me, you love to
- 40:32show your support with a comfy t or tote bag.
- 40:35Well, now you're in luck and can show your support for the show
- 40:39and grab some sweet. Merch by heading over to the
- 40:42Arctic awesome.com pot store there, you can buy some awesome,
- 40:46T public merch with the blogcast logo such as a shirt.
- 40:50Sticker tote bag, and a baby onesie for all your little
- 40:54costume. Mavens in the making.
- 40:56Thank you for all your support and head over to the Arctic
- 40:59costume / pot store, for all our great merch.
- 41:20All right. Are we ready to talk about how
- 41:22to spell Aryan? Yeah.
- 41:25So ready honestly. I feel like I want to be a part
- 41:30of house Florian. All right, I'll just say it.
- 41:32Princess rhaenys is my favorite character and I just love her
- 41:35and I want to be wherever He is, I love her.
- 41:38Yeah. Sarah.
- 41:41She's my new, she's my new writer die.
- 41:44Cersei Lannister character. Good, wherever she goes.
- 41:47Like, I like it. I like it.
- 41:48This is a better choice for you as well.
- 41:56I miss her. See, oh my gosh.
- 41:59That's our, yeah, she was, she was definitely intelligent.
- 42:03She knew what she was doing. Yeah.
- 42:06Yes. Yeah, yeah, let's talk about how
- 42:08solarian. I am a big fan.
- 42:11They just, I love how they know how to make an entrance, they
- 42:14do. And their costumes are always
- 42:17to, you know, the gods going all the way to like, you know,
- 42:24Rainier as wedding with lane or when they all walk in that
- 42:28massive group of valyrians I was sold.
- 42:31Yeah. So badass the black and gold
- 42:34they had going it was like Yeah. Perfect.
- 42:38Right? Especially lane or his wedding
- 42:42outfit. I was like, yes, sir.
- 42:44You understand that way? Was a cool guy?
- 42:49Yeah. Yeah.
- 42:50His wedding outfit was was nice. I think all of the Valyrian
- 42:54textiles just feel so Regal to me.
- 42:59Yeah, I definitely feel like their house keeps more of like a
- 43:04Valyrian look. To then to because they're just
- 43:08like out doing their own thing. Yeah.
- 43:11I especially love the blue. All the blues.
- 43:14Look. Yeah.
- 43:15Excellent. Because they're of the sea,
- 43:17which is also cool. I'm like, I love this of the sea
- 43:21moment. All the blues Lord.
- 43:24Corliss is such a baddie. I know that he has like some hit
- 43:28and miss episodes, especially when he, like, has like a mental
- 43:32breakdown and goes to war for like so many years and leaves
- 43:35her a nice alone. I call injured and be like, what
- 43:38happened? Like I just every time I see
- 43:42him, I'm like, this is Excellence.
- 43:44He's a cool guy. I want to be on his team.
- 43:47I'm so glad he chose rainy reside in the end because that
- 43:51would have been bad for me. I love it.
- 43:55Yeah, I love that rainy's was like, no, no, because he's like,
- 44:00you know what, you're right. We should stay out of things and
- 44:03she was like, no, not this time. It's like Bitch, I just broke my
- 44:07dragon out of it. We're too late.
- 44:11We're past that. We gotta pick a side.
- 44:14Yeah, she's like, this is the one time we can stay out of it.
- 44:17You didn't listen to me all the other times, but you're
- 44:19listening to me now. Oh my gosh, and then Lord,
- 44:24cordless and Rainier re nieces daughters to.
- 44:28I'm just like everyone in this and then eventually Damon's
- 44:31daughters to there's lots of daughters happening icon.
- 44:35I love when she Goes after Damon.
- 44:37She's just like hey I'm single, you're single.
- 44:41Yeah, that's up. Your low-key unstable.
- 44:48You're lucky unstable but you'll let me ride a dragon.
- 44:51So let's get this, some more of her like such a badass
- 44:57character, right? When she stepped in front of the
- 45:01old lady Grandma Dragon. I was like, please, I don't lie.
- 45:09Calling her like Meemaw? Yeah.
- 45:23No more. Traumatic birth.
- 45:24Seems, I've had enough. Oh my gosh.
- 45:31I've learned so much about childbirth and weeks.
- 45:37I don't know more, I'm good. Who I wish had not gone quite
- 45:42yet. King viserys.
- 45:45Well, he does moment, while they do not change.
- 45:48Actors for his age up. He starts looking rough.
- 45:53He starts looking rough little he's giving full on Golem when
- 45:58he enters the cave for the first time Return of the King, I love
- 46:05the three. It was so hard seeing him wither
- 46:08away but when he's at the end of his life and he walks into the
- 46:11throne room, ready to put some haters too quiet, and he's
- 46:15wearing that gold mask. I mean I was just like such
- 46:20chills I got and also another underrated costume moment for
- 46:24the series is when he's in his deathbed and he's wearing like
- 46:27this really dramatic golden robe.
- 46:29What does look like a golden cuff?
- 46:33Like you serving right now in his Deathbed?
- 46:36Good. Yeah.
- 46:40That looks like gold mask moment was badass.
- 46:43Cool. It was.
- 46:45And I was like he does all this the day the day he dies and then
- 46:50use you still are like yeah let's just overthrow the
- 46:53daughter. Like let's believe the lie that
- 46:57on his deathbed a couple hours later.
- 46:59He changed his mind. Okay.
- 47:02Yeah, psychotic yes. But I also like the series is
- 47:08not time for story time. We were a get it Jon.
- 47:10Snow is Gonna Save Us one day, we need to let this go.
- 47:16Also Elizabeth. This is what I wanted from The
- 47:18Phantom of the Opera. Is what viserys was giving in
- 47:21this fight you wanted? This is what you wanted.
- 47:26The yes, I think the Phantom mask looks cheap.
- 47:29This is what I wanted but the Phantom is like a lonely guy.
- 47:33In a flooded basement. Spencer.
- 47:36Doesn't have the resources that came to Paris.
- 47:40Yeah, definitely doesn't have that Targaryen money.
- 47:45I guess, I will say, I thought the saracens gonna die like six
- 47:53episodes. Yeah.
- 47:55Every every episode for like six episodes, I was like, okay he's
- 47:59fine. This is it.
- 48:04Yeah. After Rainier as a wedding and
- 48:06It shows, you know, the preview for next week after like, the
- 48:0910-year time, Jump or whatever, and I saw officer, he's sitting
- 48:13there. I was like, you gotta be kidding
- 48:14me, are you see this Man still alive?
- 48:20Yeah, that was crazy. He is definitely still alive and
- 48:25raise some very questionable children, right?
- 48:29How did he go so wrong after going?
- 48:31So right, you know, I don't know, I don't know how Alice.
- 48:36On her high. Moral horse.
- 48:37Let two of her children get married.
- 48:41I don't know how any of this happened, and I wish there was
- 48:44explanation, but this point in the show, we're at the team
- 48:50blacks vs. Team greens.
- 48:53So let's start with the greens, Elsa and all four children, and
- 48:57her very questionable father. Hmm, I will say older Allison.
- 49:02She does get some like pretty badass style and especially now
- 49:06That she's found religion and is what she said, but like she
- 49:11starts, okay, hear me out when she finds Religion.
- 49:15She starts to bring in a little bit of that.
- 49:17Cersei influence to her costumes.
- 49:19Do you see what I'm saying? Yeah, a bit more structured, a
- 49:21little bit more, a little bit more frightening.
- 49:24Like I wouldn't want to be left in a room of Allison because
- 49:26she's so, like intense. Is she going to have sir Kristen
- 49:30bash my head in? She feels she gonna give me some
- 49:36juice. The gospel go either way.
- 49:42All right. No, I do love older Allison's
- 49:45style. Like she just like she looks so
- 49:49good. She looks she like updates.
- 49:51Her wardrobe to look very Regal and queen-like and expensive.
- 49:57She's like yes, I'm the queen before she was like, oh, I'm
- 50:00just the king's wife but she's like, no, I am the queen and
- 50:04you're all are going to listen to me.
- 50:06Yeah, the actress who plays older Elsa even said that to she
- 50:10said at one point, she just was referring to herself as the
- 50:13cerises viserys is wife. And she's like, no, I'm the
- 50:17queen of Westeros and she really picks that up in her costumes
- 50:21and a second half of the Season. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
- 50:26And I love how just through the costume, you can tell how
- 50:29different her sons are cuz with a mon Targaryen and being like
- 50:36For an anime villain with that. He looks like someone you would
- 50:41see in like Cowboy Bebop or something.
- 50:44He's scary, I don't know but I think he saw some portraits of
- 50:48young Damon and was like yes like he heard about him
- 50:53slaughtering all those people when he was like the head of the
- 50:56gold cloaks and he was like yes that is the energy.
- 50:59I need to become king. My I called yeah literally Yeah,
- 51:07that Damon is definitely his inspiration, I just also love
- 51:12his stairs, he tries to blend in there's one scene where he wears
- 51:16like a hood around town and he supposed to be in Disguise and
- 51:19everyone's, like, I know it's you scary guy.
- 51:22Like stay away from me. Gary guy with the eye patch so
- 51:28many people. Yeah.
- 51:30Yes, he always looks ready for a fight like all his clothes.
- 51:33Look, like some sort of armor. Like his brother who just looks
- 51:39like the spoiled wealthy brat that he is.
- 51:43He's very much Joffrey and yes very much.
- 51:47So yeah. Like spoiled like drunk all the
- 51:53time. Yeah.
- 51:54Just like frappe frat boy energy.
- 51:57Yeah, it's weird. He like has a weird moment right
- 52:00before he was crowned, King where he was like, I really
- 52:02don't want this, and I was like, we're on the same page.
- 52:06Like, let's let this man go. Yeah, I felt.
- 52:11I felt so bad for him for a second.
- 52:13Yeah, once we get to the coronation which we'll talk
- 52:16about a little bit when he gets that sick-ass, you know, crown
- 52:19and outfit and the big sword. He was like, okay I can't go
- 52:25along with that, like, let's get real.
- 52:27Honestly, I would have to, I would like, all right, like
- 52:30let's start finding my sister. I guess we got to bring her to
- 52:34Justice. The sister I married, but the
- 52:37sister died. We need to have killed.
- 52:39Yes, your half-sister /. Aunt, the only child of hers, I
- 52:48do. Feel sorry for is the daughter
- 52:50though, right? She's like, I just want to be
- 52:53here and have my premonitions and like not be involved.
- 52:57Sheikh is falling like Luna, Lovegood fun.
- 53:00Yes, yes. I love her little speech.
- 53:05Her a little speech. At the at the family dinner.
- 53:09I'm like all. Okay, it was cute.
- 53:12I bet Eugenie was thinking about Luna Lovegood when she was doing
- 53:15her costume, is that you? Because like, they're all very,
- 53:19they're all very simple. But they all have like something
- 53:23a little bit interesting about them.
- 53:25Whether it's like the texture or the jewelry, she was wearing,
- 53:29there's always like a little something but it like it's still
- 53:31all very simple like, she doesn't really care that much
- 53:35about. Like uncharacteristically like
- 53:38bright too? Yeah, because Team Green is like
- 53:41very serious at this point, they're always looking like,
- 53:43villains and then there's the one daughter who's, like, I'm
- 53:46just happy to be here. That's like, what?
- 53:48Where I see the connection between her and Luna.
- 53:51Yeah, who's this guy? Oh, you don't want to talk about
- 53:56the foot fetish guy, not really, but he's here.
- 54:00So I guess so. Yeah.
- 54:06Yeah hated him so much because he like he might be my most
- 54:11hated her. Yeah, Laris and Otto are like
- 54:15the two people responsible for manipulating Alison into her
- 54:20thinking that aegon should be king like they are the two
- 54:23people solely responsible for that.
- 54:26Yeah. Yeah I also hate him too.
- 54:30But his costume to me says like he's like a shady guy says that
- 54:35in his costume. You always was wrapped in all
- 54:37these layers and scarves and like, low-key Hood moments.
- 54:41He's just like that. Shadowy figure, that you
- 54:43shouldn't be speaking with, but then he wears like little bit
- 54:46like sometimes brighter colors though.
- 54:48To like almost throw you off your game but he's messy.
- 54:53Don't don't talk to this guy, he's young.
- 54:59Sometimes I feel bad for Allison just because she like I mean she
- 55:03puts up with it because he's giving her information.
- 55:06Action. But at the same time, I'm like,
- 55:09ooh, yeah. Give me.
- 55:11I feel bad that she's just so oblivious to what they're doing
- 55:15to her. Yeah, I I feel bad for her.
- 55:19I also don't know that she's a. I think she fully knows that she
- 55:22fucked up. Yeah, her only direction is
- 55:25going forward with this. I don't think she's enjoying it.
- 55:28She just doesn't see a reality where she could specially.
- 55:31Now that her son just turned her friend's son into a chicken
- 55:35nugget. Like I bet you see the tooth
- 55:40gets tired real fast. And be like, well shit.
- 55:42Yeah, look at all of you all. And now we have to go to water
- 55:45and she doesn't enjoy it. No, now, in her face to like,
- 55:50she's constantly, like got that look in her eye where she's
- 55:53like, like, how did I end up here like?
- 55:55Yeah, she's like, looking back on it.
- 55:59Her uncle insects rhaenyra was not the worst thing never know,
- 56:04I could have handled that so Really.
- 56:06Yeah. Well, we're near as ready to
- 56:10handle her life differently when she finally gets married to
- 56:13Damon the way. We all wanted this.
- 56:17This guy Disturbed, man. Yes, but Jenny, and told dr.
- 56:27Gracia lot about their wedding outfits.
- 56:32She wanted both Damon Andrew Nero to be wearing this.
- 56:36Same thing because she said I wanted the same for both because
- 56:41I wanted them to be equal. She like also said about it,
- 56:46that their wedding is an exchange of blood and very
- 56:50barbaric and archaic way of getting married and I wanted
- 56:55their robe disorder equal that. So she is like in this moment
- 57:00they are equals and this like barbaric wedding tradition.
- 57:06They're also both very happy, right?
- 57:10I thought it was such a cool scene.
- 57:11It felt very just like traditional the game back to
- 57:14like the traditions of their house.
- 57:17Reyne Justice. The colors on it are so
- 57:20beautiful because they're so muted and depleted, but then
- 57:23there's like that slight red blood color to it obsessed.
- 57:28So yeah. I also love like, just the way
- 57:31they like, they shot this scene and like the lighting in it, it
- 57:35just like everything. Costumes at all like really
- 57:37works together in your like this is creepy but kind of hot.
- 57:44Yeah, I think is in creepier that they made all their kids
- 57:48watch. Yeah.
- 57:49All these confused children? They were all just like, please,
- 57:53can we go home true? But like someone had to witness
- 57:57the wedding and like nobody was friends with them at that
- 58:00moment. So they literally just had Our
- 58:06children, but this brings us to team black looking so good.
- 58:12So good all the time. Yeah.
- 58:15Emma DRC, who plays rhaenyra at this point?
- 58:19I mean, an icon, they deserve an Emmy. 100%.
- 58:25Yeah, most of the people in this cast deserve in any, what we're
- 58:30gonna run out of, I mean, I love team black because it's funny.
- 58:36They're called team black, but their costumes, they're like,
- 58:39kind of edgy or a little bit more goth but they're also
- 58:43something about reindeer as kids a little bit more, you know,
- 58:46because they have a different father but they feel a lot more
- 58:50bright and cheery and homely they give like Stark energy
- 58:53actually to me. That's cuz she raised them to be
- 58:56like, honorable people unlike alicent like she actually raise
- 59:00them to care about. Yeah.
- 59:02It's like they're dressed like the cool emo goth kids but
- 59:05they're like Oh, most honorable nice people, you could hang out,
- 59:10kids are really afraid of and then like you trip down the
- 59:13stairs on my the first people to come help you like parental
- 59:20affection and like love. Yeah, that Queen alicent and
- 59:25viserys didn't really give to their kid runs, right?
- 59:28No. They that is very true even
- 59:32demons daughters. He like, You might not have been
- 59:37like in love with their mom but like he really cares about them.
- 59:40Yeah. I feel like he was as in love
- 59:43with their mom as he could be. Yeah.
- 59:47Like he definitely there's something there and I think he
- 59:49was sad when she got Chris speed up by the dragon.
- 59:53Yeah he could have dragged her away if the dragon hadn't and
- 59:57that very moment. Like also like he also knew he
- 1:00:00was gonna he was he was going to be fine, though.
- 1:00:03Yeah, it's just And then house blacks, they combined with the
- 1:00:08valyrians in the end to which I was so relieved about because I
- 1:00:12need Ray. Nice on my team.
- 1:00:15Yeah, she was very much like Switzerland for a while there.
- 1:00:22She was until she put on that sick.
- 1:00:24Armor and got on the dragon. Hmm.
- 1:00:28Yeah, I think it's like, when that night breaks her owl, it's
- 1:00:32when she starts to like, really think like, okay.
- 1:00:36Maybe maybe them being in charge is not a good idea, if like one
- 1:00:40of their nights is turning against them.
- 1:00:43Yeah. But I do love how they just kind
- 1:00:46of consolidate and like just really have a cohesive look
- 1:00:51between all of them especially with the daughters getting
- 1:00:54engaged to Rainier as Sons. They go from like the Valerian
- 1:00:59blue to like the black and red of the targaryens and I'm like,
- 1:01:04yes, cohesion. I like it messy, which
- 1:01:08technically they're all supposed to be valyrians, we tend to
- 1:01:11forget. Yeah, they're just like some
- 1:01:14random houses Sons. Yeah, so good.
- 1:01:19I love all them. I love to use of like all the
- 1:01:21black but then all the red accents.
- 1:01:23The I love their continuity between all their costumes.
- 1:01:26They're really experts at this. They definitely are.
- 1:01:30I especially like this last number from rainey's the lake
- 1:01:35black. Quilted velvet with like the
- 1:01:39leather and like the metal detail.
- 1:01:42It's like, it's so like, she's like I'm ready for this war.
- 1:01:47She's not saying anything, but could see on her face.
- 1:01:50She's like, pick me. Pick me.
- 1:01:51Pick me. I'm like fully pissed at this
- 1:01:56point. It's like, she's like, I
- 1:01:59couldn't be Queen, but damn it. You're going to be Queen.
- 1:02:03Yeah, it will not be Alison. Speaking of her badass armor
- 1:02:10Ginny have a lot of fun with it. She told a grassy a I wanted
- 1:02:16something powerful but feminine I had two female armor moments
- 1:02:21that were important. The first one is the one of Rhea
- 1:02:25who is Damon's wife that was killed and she was in a leather
- 1:02:29breastplate and they nieces armor is much stronger because
- 1:02:35rainey's is Much bigger and stronger character.
- 1:02:39I wanted to give her a more important armor and I needed the
- 1:02:43shoulder for the cape. I think that the armor was very
- 1:02:47successful, but they're not so heavy because they're made with
- 1:02:51plastic. So it's not worse than wearing a
- 1:02:54corset, for instance. Can you believe that's plastic?
- 1:02:59That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy for a nice is
- 1:03:04armor. I mean, when I saw her, On that
- 1:03:06Dragon. I was I Elizabeth you and I were
- 1:03:09on Zoom when we were watching this by was muted, so you can't
- 1:03:11hear me. But I was like, fully freaking
- 1:03:13out the entire episode because I was like, please don't kill her
- 1:03:16knees, please don't kill very nice.
- 1:03:18She smashes on that armor and I gave like the biggest high pitch
- 1:03:21scream. I was just happy.
- 1:03:24She looks so cool. Yeah she looks frickin sweet.
- 1:03:29She does. And it's such a like dang things
- 1:03:32are about to go down moment like it was the perfect.
- 1:03:36The end the episode and she looked perfect for it.
- 1:03:39Yeah. She just looks at him running,
- 1:03:41gives them like the look like you fucked up, but you're going
- 1:03:46to live to see another day, unfortunately for you.
- 1:03:50Yeah, that moment was like the perfect way to end that episode
- 1:03:53and with that all we have at the end is a king and a queen.
- 1:03:59Who's gonna win? Who's going to win?
- 1:04:02We all know it's rhaenyra probably but I feel like there's
- 1:04:06gonna be no winners. Actually probably always others,
- 1:04:10but the history books. But yeah, sorry about these
- 1:04:17coronation looks. Let's start with the guy.
- 1:04:20We don't like first which is aegon, I will say aegon's final
- 1:04:25look with that thick black Crown.
- 1:04:27This is what I want for my coronation so I gotta I gotta
- 1:04:32give it to him. It was a good good luck, there's
- 1:04:34no no Chris. Mind.
- 1:04:36Why all of a sudden he's like I guess I could be king.
- 1:04:38I look. Yeah that's killer right now.
- 1:04:40He looks he looks so good in that moment.
- 1:04:45I like that. It's that like gray black like
- 1:04:48gunmetal color. Yeah like not fully black but
- 1:04:52it's almost there. It reminds me of Dragonstone
- 1:04:55which is like part of the whole facade isn't it?
- 1:04:58Like I'm Targaryen and I okay yeah your mom didn't manipulate.
- 1:05:06You let you into being a Hightower sure.
- 1:05:10But I honestly, I gotta say I think I like Ranier has look
- 1:05:14more cuz it's just it's much more Regal and like more.
- 1:05:20What you would imagine somebody would wear to their coronation.
- 1:05:24Like, his is scary. Hers is like soft.
- 1:05:28But strong love that little like like yes she's in mourning for
- 1:05:33her child but she's got this great velvet.
- 1:05:36Red velvet like neck coming up the gold of her father's Crown
- 1:05:41matches the gold of her like Fasteners, it's so perfect.
- 1:05:46Yeah, that crown came out perfect moment because her look
- 1:05:48was ready for it. Hmm, didn't she were didn't it?
- 1:05:52Come like, wow, they were cremating her child.
- 1:05:55Yeah, we're at the funeral. It was a very weird funeral for
- 1:06:04everyone who is present. Yeah.
- 1:06:07Everyone was like, okay I guess this is happening.
- 1:06:10Now I don't know how to feel with that.
- 1:06:16This brings us to the end of House of the Dragon season 1.
- 1:06:19And now we begin the long wait for season 2 which will be like
- 1:06:2220 20 years for at the early earliest.
- 1:06:27I don't play oof I'm like I'd be shocked if they got it out next
- 1:06:32year. Very happy.
- 1:06:34That's so shocked that like yeah.
- 1:06:35No way, it's gonna be like two years.
- 1:06:37I'm not happy about it, but I think I saw an interview dollar
- 1:06:41day for my HBO. Exact, you said, like, hopefully
- 1:06:442024, like it doesn't like it's gonna be like 24. 25 just need
- 1:06:49to haul all of our Productions till we don't need you for you,
- 1:06:56we don't need whatever. Excellent documentary series.
- 1:07:02They were planning on. Yeah, I can't wait.
- 1:07:08I really hope Junie does the second season.
- 1:07:11Oh yeah. I feel like she's I feel like
- 1:07:13she's going to and all the interview she was like I loved
- 1:07:15working on this. Yeah.
- 1:07:17I mean this is an incredible project for her and honestly I
- 1:07:21think she's definitely gonna be nominated for an Emmy for
- 1:07:25costume design. No question.
- 1:07:26Oh yeah. If not when like we've had a lot
- 1:07:30of good ones this year but I was like having to design for so
- 1:07:34many main Actors like the amount of times they switch actors like
- 1:07:41dang. Yeah, honestly, it's going to
- 1:07:44come down and fantasy. I think it's going to come down
- 1:07:46to Ginny and Kate Holly four rings of power and it's always
- 1:07:51the winner is going to be. Whoever has the strongest
- 1:07:53marketing campaign with all that Amazon, or HBO money.
- 1:07:56Like that's who the winner will be.
- 1:07:59It's our own real-life version of House of the Dragon.
- 1:08:07First time, first time ever, there's a tie.
- 1:08:11Yeah, let's just not even talk about it.
- 1:08:12I don't want to think about this, horrible scenario, that's
- 1:08:15a it's stressful, thinking about that, with all that being said,
- 1:08:21are you ready to play our favorite game?
- 1:08:23I don't know what I mean to say. Okay, we have time, we have all
- 1:08:27the time in the world, Hit It. Daniel the one costume to rule
- 1:08:34them all. I guess I'll go first.
- 1:08:40Since I seem to be the only one ready?
- 1:08:42Yeah. Well Elizabeth and Emily is
- 1:08:45still thinking about it. My one costume rule, them all
- 1:08:48was Ray nieces armor when she smashes out of the floor with
- 1:08:52the dragon. Yes.
- 1:08:54Like, I knew in that moment, it was like, oh my God, she's
- 1:08:56alive. Also, I found my one costume to
- 1:08:58rule them all. Like, there's a lot of emotions
- 1:09:00happening. It's just so badass and I love
- 1:09:03that. The armor works with her
- 1:09:05sickening hairdo. Also, you could Say whatever you
- 1:09:09want about the Whigs of the show but Ray nieces is just laid
- 1:09:13perfectly. Yeah she's just, I love that
- 1:09:16costume. I can't think of a second place
- 1:09:18for me. It's all about Ray nieces armor.
- 1:09:21Oh, I'm so I'm so conflicted, but I have to say, I think my
- 1:09:27one costume to rule them all. Is Rainier is investiture
- 1:09:32costume. Okay.
- 1:09:33Yeah, red dress, the cloak, the headpiece, the earrings.
- 1:09:38Yeah. It all comes together.
- 1:09:40It's her stepping into like the role.
- 1:09:43She's gonna put first for the rest of her life and it's kind
- 1:09:49of like the iconic look, we all already knew was coming like
- 1:09:54Yeah, that was what they advertised with because they
- 1:09:56were like yes, this is like an important moment.
- 1:09:59It's where she makes. It's on all the Billboards in
- 1:10:02Los Angeles right now. Yes.
- 1:10:04It's where she makes her ultimate Choice.
- 1:10:07Gotta say though her her first wedding dress.
- 1:10:15Everybody just you know in general I'm not good with names
- 1:10:19and this Seasoning House of dragon just destroyed my
- 1:10:23ability. You to recognize it snake.
- 1:10:26Like Spencer can tell you like I don't know how many times Daniel
- 1:10:30has had a cutout me like mispronouncing.
- 1:10:33A name are giving someone the wrong name.
- 1:10:39I'm listening to the audiobook right now and keeping track of
- 1:10:43like everyone. I've been listening to it while
- 1:10:45I'm driving and keeping track of everyone's names as well to the
- 1:10:50history is like A task. I can't imagine who I shouldn't
- 1:10:55difficult. Yeah, I should get the audio
- 1:10:58book. Don't tempt me.
- 1:11:02Sorry. Alright, Emily, what is your one
- 1:11:06costume to rule them all? This is the moment, this is the
- 1:11:09moment. So actually was deciding between
- 1:11:11three but you guys toes, okay? And then the third was Damon's
- 1:11:19armor How did none of us pick Damon?
- 1:11:23Yeah. That's a good one.
- 1:11:25Yeah, right. I just it's because he wears
- 1:11:29several different armor looks but they're like all just
- 1:11:32slightly different from one another and I don't know, I feel
- 1:11:36like I feel like I might have to go with that one.
- 1:11:38I love your guys choices too though, right?
- 1:11:42And runner-up, Allison's wedding.
- 1:11:45Look that we didn't get all right.
- 1:11:48Yeah, back of my head that was such a Slave Oh man, HBO or
- 1:11:54maybe watch that guy with the fee.
- 1:11:56I'm so mad at the DVDs are out like I'm not joking.
- 1:12:01Like HP is my money because I need to see that wedding scene.
- 1:12:05Yeah, so good. That was probably I would have
- 1:12:08added so much to Manatee Humanity through a character.
- 1:12:11I think it would have. And I have to say, like, I love
- 1:12:14this season. It was perfect.
- 1:12:16I wish they had taken more time because I'm like a lot of what
- 1:12:21they just, Tipped over. I think would have explained a
- 1:12:23lot about alicent and Rainier is like relationship.
- 1:12:28And I think they could have like held off on eating them all up a
- 1:12:33bit longer. Yeah.
- 1:12:34It could have been a little bit slower.
- 1:12:36Yeah, yeah. Because then we could have got
- 1:12:40more of Damon's wife really blanket.
- 1:12:46First place like which one Second wife, he smashed in the
- 1:12:54head with a rock or the one got Chris speed by a dragon.
- 1:12:59We all see that scene? We're still like, yes, he's
- 1:13:01gonna be a great husband for rhaenyra.
- 1:13:06When he likes starts to choke out rhaenyra and the finale
- 1:13:09never looks like we're like, what is this Behavior?
- 1:13:23Why you like Damon so much? I certainly a.m.
- 1:13:26I'm currently doing that. My problem was concerning me.
- 1:13:30Is I really actually like amund to like oh that is concerning.
- 1:13:39So it's not uncommon. I've heard this from quite a few
- 1:13:42people now. Yeah, I've heard it.
- 1:13:45I mean he's clearly like off his rocker but at the same time, The
- 1:13:51same time. You're like, I like it.
- 1:13:54It's the eye patch, isn't the eyepatch is the mystery.
- 1:13:59Yeah, with that. That brings us to the end Emily.
- 1:14:04Thank you so much for being a guest host with us.
- 1:14:06It's so good to see you and have you here with us?
- 1:14:09Of course, it was so much fun. We're gonna have to have you
- 1:14:12back for something more fun next year too?
- 1:14:16Yes, I would be happy to be back.
- 1:14:20Love it. And with the end of house, a
- 1:14:23dragon, it is also starting to come down to the end of year.
- 1:14:26Everyone. We only have a few more episodes
- 1:14:29left. I know.
- 1:14:31It feels like we just left Halloween but it's tall.
- 1:14:34They season here at the art Acosta blogcast, as of next
- 1:14:37week, the holiday season. I'm so excited.
- 1:14:41Next week. Elizabeth and I are watching The
- 1:14:44Grinch, a incredible costume film.
- 1:14:48So I hope you all join us for that.
- 1:14:50I mean, let's be real here. At Target buying Christmas trees
- 1:14:53and gifts already. So let's just not sugarcoat.
- 1:14:56It, let's just get right into it.
- 1:14:58If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to leave us a
- 1:15:00voicemail at 62. 65 15, 1826, tell us what your favorite
- 1:15:05costume was and why it was Ray nieces armor because if I don't
- 1:15:09do social media, and if you're missing us in between episodes,
- 1:15:14you can get some extra Blog has content from us at the Arctic
- 1:15:20costume pod, Add on Instagram at the art of costume on Tick-Tock.
- 1:15:26If you want an extra episode, each month, you can hit up our
- 1:15:30patreon at patreon.com slash the art a costume.
- 1:15:35Like you said, it's the holiday seasons.
- 1:15:38You got to get those gift list checked off and get your
- 1:15:44favorite costume lover. A art accosting Blog has
- 1:15:48sweatshirt t-shirt whatever they like.
- 1:15:51Get it at the art of costume.com pod store and if you really
- 1:15:57loved us, we would really appreciate it.
- 1:16:00If you left it, left us a little five-star text review on Apple
- 1:16:05podcast in the meantime bake, some cookies.
- 1:16:12It's that time of year everybody in the holiday spirit, nothing
- 1:16:19says holiday spirit like how. So, The dragon go on Pinterest
- 1:16:25because just put in the search bar house.
- 1:16:27The dragon holiday cookies. I'm sure something will pop up
- 1:16:31like get to it. Everybody wonderful week.
- 1:16:36Have a good week everyone. I You're out of costume.
- 1:16:43Blogcast is hosted and produced by Elizabeth Joy, glass, and
- 1:16:48Spencer Williams. Our audio engineering and
- 1:16:52editing is done by Dan White. Follow us on Instagram, at the
- 1:16:56art of costume pod or visit the art of costume blogcast.com.
- 1:17:01For all blogcast updates, if you want to support the show, go to
- 1:17:05the art of costume.com / hot store, or you can head over to
- 1:17:11patreon. On.com slash the art of costume,
- 1:17:15or some bonus content for more costume.
- 1:17:17Reviews deep, Dives and interviews head over to the art
- 1:17:22of costume.com a Blog dedicated to highlighting the best in
- 1:17:26costume design. We have our young.
- 1:17:40Oh my gosh. We're near AA here, I almost
- 1:17:47called her a knees and then I was like, hold on, that's not
- 1:17:53right. We have our young.
- 1:17:40Oh my gosh. We're near AA here, I almost
- 1:17:47called her a knees and then I was like, hold on, that's not
- 1:17:53right.