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A Holiday Binge: TWOTS FLASHBACK RHOBH 113 · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod which Teddy Mellencamp and Cameridge Edge.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of TWAE Flashback This
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: I'm back, way back, taking it way back. The last
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  Speaker 2: time eleven two thy eleven, The last time you got
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  Speaker 2: you did the recap. I was sick and Camelle filled
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  Speaker 2: in for me, and then we also had her do
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  Speaker 2: an interview. So we're jumping right into episode thirteen.
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  Speaker 3: It's so weird to me and I look at, you know,
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  Speaker 3: twenty eleven. I don't think it was that long ago.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, twenty eleven, that's a long ago. Yeah, it is,
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  Speaker 3: what thirteen years ago?
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  Speaker 2: Thirteen years ago? And then you think about all of
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  Speaker 2: the things that have changed from whether it's fashions or right,
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  Speaker 2: and then some things that have not changed one little bit,
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  Speaker 2: but like the drama. Yeah, like the drama. So this
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  Speaker 2: episode is called Unforgivable.
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  Speaker 3: Oh God.
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  Speaker 2: B Taylor's birthday is celebrated with a huge party on
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  Speaker 2: a Beverly Hills Hotel rooftop. Kim and Kyle come to
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  Speaker 2: blows and Camille learns that Kelsey wants to enter their marriage.
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  Speaker 2: Camille felt uncomfortable going through the evening with Kelsey in
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  Speaker 2: New York, knowing he wanted out. She says that it's
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  Speaker 2: such a different scenario being married to a celebrity because
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  Speaker 2: it is not a private divorce. If you were Camille,
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  Speaker 2: would you have still gone to New York?
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  Speaker 3: No, I was going to say that to you.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: It's hard to say because she clearly didn't want the divorce,
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  Speaker 3: So maybe going just being close to him, thinking there's
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  Speaker 3: a possibility, like I can understand that. Yeah, I've definitely
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  Speaker 3: stalked a boyfriend in the past.
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  Speaker 2: We just love me just but I mean, I can't
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  Speaker 2: help but think when Kelsey goes I've won already that
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  Speaker 2: he was talking about the public perception of Camille when
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  Speaker 2: this divorce news hits, because like having her that air
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  Speaker 2: gave him so much more freedom on you know, some
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  Speaker 2: of the bad shit he did because she was so hated,
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  Speaker 2: and that he.
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  Speaker 3: Was very smart and how he played this out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean had her get on the show. Then he
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  Speaker 3: talks about like not gonna lie thirteen years of marriage
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  Speaker 3: is not easy.
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  Speaker 2: But also you could tell and then now that I
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  Speaker 2: am not to ruin anything for you guys that are
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  Speaker 2: watching this for the first time. But then I watched
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  Speaker 2: the reunion right after this episode, and this is where
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  Speaker 2: Camille lets on that she knew before they started filming.
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  Speaker 2: So well, I think she was a sham.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I well, I don't know, like when you have
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  Speaker 3: a you're married to a polic person, there's there's only
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  Speaker 3: so much you really want to reveal. And then when
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  Speaker 3: he dumps her in.
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  Speaker 2: The middle of filming, but hadn't he already dumped her
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  Speaker 2: during filming? My guess is, oh, you think so, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's what she said at.
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  Speaker 3: The reunion she said she did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she kind of said like I already knew, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when we started filming. So my guess is in some
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  Speaker 2: way production Slash, you know, the network or whomever wanted
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  Speaker 2: to show Kelsey one last time and that's why this
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  Speaker 2: New York thing, and it probably Kelsey agreed to do
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  Speaker 2: whatever it was three three, you know, whatever it may
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  Speaker 2: have been. So that's why came on the show, and
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  Speaker 2: that's why that ended up happening.
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  Speaker 3: Because do you think that's why she was kissing Nick
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  Speaker 3: and acting off flirty. Is tried to like stick it
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  Speaker 3: to Kelsey.
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  Speaker 2: I would have that, but I mean, I hate to
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  Speaker 2: skip down to the reunion again. But well, let's get
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  Speaker 2: more into that once we talk about the room, because
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  Speaker 2: that comes up a lot the kissing, I know. Well,
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  Speaker 2: then the next part is when Kyle meets with her
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  Speaker 2: psychic Rebecca. I know Rebecca because I feel like maybe
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  Speaker 2: it was my first I don't remember what season it was,
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  Speaker 2: it must have been my first season because it was
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  Speaker 2: at Kyle's old house. Rebecca came and she was the
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  Speaker 2: one that called Erica. She was like, in your past life,
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  Speaker 2: you were an Egyptian prince or something like that. So
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  Speaker 2: this is Rebecca. Kyle meets with her and says her
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  Speaker 2: mom's ashes and a lock of her hair. Rebecca tells
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  Speaker 2: Kyle that her mom is here and she knows about
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  Speaker 2: her conflict with a friend that's a girl, and then
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  Speaker 2: that's when they start talking about Kim. Do we think
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  Speaker 2: Kyle was intentional in filming with the psychic after what
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  Speaker 2: happened with Alison Dubois, I yes, I would, but I
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  Speaker 2: know that Kyle actually like, she actually talks to Rebecca.
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  Speaker 2: So then it was just a quinkie inc I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's a quinkie dic, but I'm saying
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  Speaker 2: I do know that.
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  Speaker 3: She always like, I'll show you my psychic's better than
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  Speaker 3: your psychic.
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  Speaker 2: My psychic is better than yours in my life. But
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  Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing. I'm no psychic, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: thinking any psychic a housewife brings on the show may
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  Speaker 2: be influenced by a little bit more than the spirits.
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  Speaker 3: Like the blogs, like anything.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess back then there wasn't you couldn't
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  Speaker 2: google everything, and there was like bloggers leaking stuff. So
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  Speaker 2: who really knows, but I feel like you could kind
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  Speaker 2: of look at any human being and be like you're
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  Speaker 2: having a conflict with someone.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly right, Like most people are gonna don't worry about
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  Speaker 3: those finances.
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  Speaker 2: After looking at my Amazon, I know, I had like
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  Speaker 2: crazy dreams last night that involved Amazon, and I think
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  Speaker 2: it was because.
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  Speaker 3: Did you take some lights out last night?
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: I didn't take any lights out, but I almost to
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  Speaker 2: get through these episodes, needed to take a cloud nine
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  Speaker 2: today because I was like.
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  Speaker 3: This is, Yeah, it's a lot different than the show's
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  Speaker 3: a lot different back then than it is now.
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  Speaker 2: For sure, the pacing's different, all of it's different, but
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  Speaker 2: I mean I do appreciate it. Lisa then asked Taylor
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  Speaker 2: to be one hundred percent honest and asked what she
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: said to Camille and the penthouse. Taylor told her that
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  Speaker 2: Kim wanted to talk about Camille and her self esteem
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: in regards to being married to a celebrity. Then Kim
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  Speaker 2: said it was Taylor who called her insecure.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it was Taylor's intention to stir shit
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  Speaker 3: up at all. I really don't, and she like even
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  Speaker 3: in the at the reunion bring that up again. She
• 7:02
  Speaker 3: gets blamed for a lot too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think, why do you think Lisa's
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  Speaker 2: so insistent that Taylor isn't being honest.
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  Speaker 3: Because Lisa likes to look like the good guy at
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  Speaker 3: all times.
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  Speaker 2: Right, But I feel like Lisa and Taylor hate each
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  Speaker 2: other so much or just sorry, hate is a strong word.
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  Speaker 2: They did like each other so much during this that
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  Speaker 2: it's actually fun to watch, Like you can just see
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  Speaker 2: both of them like cringing at the other one.
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  Speaker 3: Did they really not like each other back then? I
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  Speaker 3: don't even know if they like, I was a child,
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  Speaker 3: you're a fetus.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I was in my mother's womb.
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  Speaker 3: Oh god.
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  Speaker 2: But then Camille tells Dedie that Kelsey was so cold
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: to her on the red carpet. Kelsey was so annoyed.
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  Speaker 2: Even Kelsey was furious at Camille's dress. That's how over
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  Speaker 2: it he was, like even her, Well, he had a girlfriend,
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  Speaker 2: which I wonder how they met, Like did they meet
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  Speaker 2: when I said that, like Kelsey leaves for a flight attendant.
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  Speaker 2: Did they meet on a plane or did they meet out?
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  Speaker 2: Like I want to know this information, but I was
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  Speaker 2: too booked up to actually research it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, you know Jen on our show,
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  Speaker 3: she met her husband she was a flight attendant. Oh
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  Speaker 3: she met him, Like she met him, Yeah, like helping
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  Speaker 3: him or whatever, you know, working on the plane.
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  Speaker 2: That's probat to meet someone though, Like I have a
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  Speaker 2: friend who her husband broke up with her for his
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  Speaker 2: flight attendant. But he had a private plane, so that's.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit different.
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  Speaker 2: It was different because it's a consistent person. Every time
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  Speaker 2: this person tracks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they have more one on one time with
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  Speaker 3: you than the entire plane.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I mean, even if we think of Kelsey
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  Speaker 2: was probably sitting first class. I mean, at the most
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  Speaker 2: this is to go to New York, So this is
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  Speaker 2: five hours of flirtation and then like who gave who
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  Speaker 2: the other person's number?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, were you surprised that? I mean, do you believe?
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  Speaker 3: It's more like it that Camille had no idea that
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  Speaker 3: Kelsey was cheating.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think she knew the whole time she was filming,
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  Speaker 2: which is why she was so erratic, because I think.
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  Speaker 3: You can feel it, Like I think, I don't think
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  Speaker 3: I'm I got cheated on with my first husband, but
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't even count because I didn't care. It was
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  Speaker 3: like I was over it, he was over it. So
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  Speaker 3: I never have had that feeling like do you know
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  Speaker 3: do you not know?
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  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 2: I think there's a big difference between like somebody needing
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: to leave for like two weeks for work versus a year, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: versus a year getting an apartment one that, like your
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  Speaker 2: family isn't moving into with you. I think those are
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  Speaker 2: pretty big red flags. I think when she says she
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: got to their apartment building New York and the doorman
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  Speaker 2: asked who she was, she told them she was missus Grammar.
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  Speaker 2: They looked confused and said.
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  Speaker 1: No, you're not.
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  Speaker 2: I was like the drama and then I was like, which,
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  Speaker 2: like that doorman is getting fired, like theirs their job
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  Speaker 2: is done, Like I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean, it was pretty sad though to go I mean,
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  Speaker 3: has she never been to her husband's apartment before? What
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  Speaker 3: made we saw the Red Flag?
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  Speaker 2: Well, didn't we see her film at the beginning of
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  Speaker 2: the season there like her talking about like how she
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  Speaker 2: didn't know how she could live in this place with
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  Speaker 2: her kids thirty five square feet, Yeah, because she's used
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: to like, I don't know, seventy square feet or whatever
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  Speaker 2: it is, and her eighty two nannies and whatnot. But
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I I do believe what is your
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  Speaker 2: thought process? When she says Camille says, whoever this is,
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  Speaker 2: I do in my heart believe it's a woman. Does
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  Speaker 2: she not know that she's just drawing a family?
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  Speaker 3: Well? She had questions too there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but like do you yeah you got it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, Well, obviously he's a public person. Everybody knows
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  Speaker 3: he's married. Ill I have to just google him. Do
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  Speaker 3: affairs happen all the time? Absolutely? If you want to
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  Speaker 3: blame somebody, blame your husband.
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  Speaker 2: That's how I feel too.
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  Speaker 3: Blame the husband. You don't have to blame the girl.
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  Speaker 3: The girl's just seeing dollar signs. I'm sure, I mean
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  Speaker 3: it could be true love. I'm sure it is what
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  Speaker 3: is she fifty years younger than him? Well, I mean
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: they're still together so much in common.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think they're still together. But what would
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  Speaker 2: you do if you found another woman was using your
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  Speaker 2: name and your apartment.
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  Speaker 3: Killer.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a feisty mood today. I mean, obviously it falls
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  Speaker 3: back on her husband, the guy that she married, the
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  Speaker 3: one she took vows with, the one that you know
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  Speaker 3: it's not supposed to be lying to her, So I
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: understand taking it out on the other woman, but it's
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  Speaker 3: really the husband.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you like, if you wanted to save
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  Speaker 2: your marriage, you would have put in a good fight
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  Speaker 2: for your wife and your kids to come to New
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  Speaker 2: York with you if you were going to be gone.
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  Speaker 2: I think he just wanted out of sight, out of mind.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I suspect that they've been having problems for years,
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: for years.
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: Well, then Camille says that Kelsey has held her down,
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: keeping her in a cage and preventing her from experiencing life,
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: but she still loves him. Camille ultimately decided to file
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: for the divorce.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean it just from what we're seeing on
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: the show, doesn't look like he was holding her down
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: because he's like, piace od, I'm gonna go do a show.
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: I'll be back in a year. But who knows what
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: happened prior to that. Yeah, I mean she had quite
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  Speaker 3: a life prior to marrying him.
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: Right, But I don't know. I don't know how much
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: of a social person she was because I wasn't out
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: here then, Like I don't like some women that are
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: married to you know, super wealthy people are out on
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  Speaker 2: the town every single night. Do I know this about Camille?
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 2: Do I even think that's her personality type?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 2: No, but that may have been because that was Kelsey's wishes,
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  Speaker 2: you know. But she kind of has always seemed like
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: in a big group setting, regardless of what we're watching
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  Speaker 2: about Camille, Camille has always had like a nervous energy
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  Speaker 2: when entering a room, like she's not, you know, super
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: over the top, you know the way then No.
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  Speaker 3: No, In fact, a lot of times she filmed with
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: her friends and not with the cast.
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then we get to Taylor pulls Kim to
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: address their altercation about Camille and Kyle's drama. Kim says
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: that Taylor was the one who stirred up the commotion.
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: Kim tells Taylor that Kyle is being fake because she
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: knows who she really is. Kyle, Lisa, and Adrian intervene.
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  Speaker 2: Kim says she doesn't enjoy any of their company.
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  Speaker 3: A nice thing to say. I don't like any of you,
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  Speaker 3: you know what.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like any of you.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: Kim tells Kyle to watch her step. Kyle tells her
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  Speaker 2: to get her finger out of her face. Kim points
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  Speaker 2: to Taylor and Lisa, saying they're the ones who stir
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  Speaker 2: up all the shit. Kyle tells Kim that she had
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: the opportunity to have her back at New York and
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: she missed it.
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think that Kim was clearly not in
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: the right frame of mind. But however, was she coming
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: for the rest of them as well?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: Is she? I know? She says she her issues with Kyle,
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: but it seems like she hates everybody.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: It seems like she doesn't want to be there. I mean,
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: we all have seen the Amsterdam Dinner, but Kim and
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: her finger have always been powerful apparently. But I do think.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't think Kim wants to be a part
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  Speaker 3: of a cast. I've got a team player. Let's just
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: put it that way.
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  Speaker 2: I think from just watching, when you look at everybody
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: else's lifestyles and what's going on, my guess is Kim
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: made this decision to go on season one because of
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: financial need. Yeah, not probably, And I think when you're
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: in that situation, you don't really want to be there,
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: and you're also struggling with you know what. I had
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: didn't seen. I haven't seen season two yet, so I
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: don't know what happens from here. But at this point,
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: there's allegations of drinking too much, drinking too much, and
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: it gets really ugly.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: I think we got ugly as Mika got into the
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: car to try to talk to Kim, and Kim, you
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: didn't want any part of it.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: No, Well, first they show Betty and they're like, don't
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  Speaker 2: like that.
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  Speaker 3: Betty's been around for a long time because Betty Vicky
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: used Betty. But I know that because it's not like
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: a common name for an agent.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: And for the record, Betty's still around and she still
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: gets shipped done.
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  Speaker 3: Like Betty, call out there and make sure that Kim
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: does not take off in the car, I repeat, does
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: not take off in the car, Like what?
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: And then who did Betty call? That's what I was wondering,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: like the front desk.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Like Betty called the valet.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Betty's like, hold up. But they get in the car,
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: they're they're screaming back and forth. Kim screams that well. First,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Kim tells Kyle that she doesn't trust her and that
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: she what she did tonight was unforgivable. Kim screams that
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Kyle stole her house. Kyle says that Kim is out
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: of her mind at that end, that Mauricio has supported her.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have any backstory on what she's talking about
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: about stealing the house?
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: I think I don't know if this is public knowledge,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: so I feel I don't know how much is shared.
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  Speaker 2: All I can say for certain is Mauricio and Kyle
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: supported Kim.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Kyle said that, and she made it very
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: clear that money that was coming in each month ain't
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: coming anymore. I'm gonna speculate that maybe a house was
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: left to them when the mother passed away and Kim
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: couldn't afford it or something, and Mauricio sold it.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I think it's something similar to that, But my guess
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: would be bought out her portion, so she could have money.
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  Speaker 3: There you go. That's what I speculate.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my guess, but I could be slightly wrong
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: on the details. But I think where what Kim is
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: also alleging is like she did a lot of things.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, whether it's was the mom's house or maybe
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: it was Kim's money from her childhood that paid for
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: the house, I don't know, whatever situation.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: All I know is you stole my goddamn house. When
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: that hit a nerve with Kyle.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Because I think probably Kyle knew how much money they
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: had given.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Could you imagine Kathy Hilton was thinking watching this on
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: National TV and how protective she is and hush hushed
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: about her family. She must have been dying, because I was,
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: I you know, obviously I watched it way back when,
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: thirteen years ago, but now I'm like, shit, that's her
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: actual sister and to have this conversation or argument on
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: National TV about personal stuff, and she pushed Kyle to
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: the to her limits and out at her as I
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: don't know if she called her an alcoholic, but having
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: a drinking problem.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: As much as Kat, it was probably hard for Kath
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: need to watch if she did watch them struggling.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, Paris Hilton was already we forget, she already
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: was pulling Shenanigans like.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Well, Paris Hilt was already super famous by then. Like
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: remember first episode, they're like that, you know, referring to
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Kim and Kyle as Paris is aunt.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So now was Kim known as someone with addiction
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: problems in the public eye before joining the show?
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know because I don't really remember. I don't
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: that was.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: But also like or you were in college drinking.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Like I went to college Camra.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's right. I was trying to make you sound
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: smarter than you are.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Well clearly I'm not, but I don't remember because even
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: though like Edwin's first crush was Kim, I hadn't seen
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: a bunch of Kim I know, and the eight not
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: from then from like.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: A movie she did like he turned to which Mountain?
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: No, it was another one, but he had me watch
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: it once we started like dating before I ever even
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: went on the show. Well anyways, then Kyle stands up
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: and this is where it gets heated and says take
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: it back, calling her liar, and that's when the A
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: word comes out, And all I know is Martin is
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: so bummed to be in this limo right now, He's like, well,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: now I'm glad Kim never called me back.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, now I'm glad I'm not dating her and she's
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: a mess.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Well how did Martin end up in that limo? Anyway?
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: But Adrian, she really rides the fence. She really really
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: like she knows. I mean, I don't know. There's a
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: fine line between sticking enabling somebody, sticking up for them,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: and not wanting to, you know, to keep She wanting
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: to keep the peace, is what I'm trying to say.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: But she said things to Kyle that I'm like, wait,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: what show were you watching or filming? I should say, well,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: I don't feel like Kyle did. I don't think Kyle
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: was poking at he or anything. Kyle was trying to
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: keep her dirty little secrets.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I think that Adrian, the only person she wanted to
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: argue with ever was Paul.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Well, she did a great job at it. She's like,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: did a career, she made a career out of it.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I think just watching the whole thing unfold,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: it kind of makes sense what's happening the entire season,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: which then you know, we will get into and we
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: get into our next episode and we.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: All have you know, our family shit for sure.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: I would never think or even imagine that Kim, Kyle
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: and Kathy have such a troublesome like relationship. But watching
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: the seasons and seeing now and then watching Beverly Hills
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: last year with Kathy, like it's really been a struggle,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: probably since their mother had passed away, I would imagine.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I think, I mean from what we were always told,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: like those girls kind of grew up like they all
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: drove when they were in the eighth grade, you know, like.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: They but they're all so successful now, yeah, And I
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: think that's they are probably so successful because they had
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: to worry.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: They had too hard from a really young age, and
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: you know to their parents fled up when they were young,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: and I think it just was a lot for them,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: a lot for three girls to manage. And you know,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I think they all loved their mom so much, and
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: then once she passed, I think they all took on
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: these different responsibilities and they put that to.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Their mom probably held them all together. The way my family,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: like my grandparents were like we always had Christmas to
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: get the whole families and aunts, the uncles and cousins.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: After that happened, It's like I'm seeing my cousins in
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: twenty years.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: They're like, Hey, Hey, is that my cousin?
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Who's this person on Facebook and wants to talk to me? Oh?
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: I remember you? And I was five when I look.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Through my twenty three and me and I'm like, don't know,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: never seen it.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Never.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: By the way, Also, Taylor, I'm sorry your birthday party.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: You didn't get to enjoy it for one second.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: How could she enjoy anything with Russell?
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I'm unenjoyable. But we get there little, even back then,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: we have the little what is it? The ending? They're
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: not the epilogue? Is that what someone dies?
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: No, that's a eulogy. I always call her eulogy. Here's
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: your death. This is what we say.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: When you die. Okay, let's read them line by line
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: in dramatic tone. End of the season.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: End of the season. Kyle and Kim went weeks without talking.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Their kids are now trying to broker a truce between them.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: As Sedgriuc was moving out, he and Lisa had an
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: explosive the argument they haven't spoken since Snowball.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Taylor's dog is happy with a new home, but Taylor
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: continues to struggle in her current one.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Adrianne and Paul are still the Bickersons. Adrienne insists she's
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: not responsible for Paul's multiple broken noses.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Kim's family checked her into rehab. A week later, she
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: checked herself out. She has taken her life one day
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: at a time.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Emille. She's living in Malibu, fighting for custody of her children.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Kelsey is in New York engaged to a twenty nine
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: year old flight attendant.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Oh that's a big view.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: That is a big big you. Ah well, guys, if
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: you are on the edge of your seats waiting to
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: hear about the reunion episodes, make sure that you tune
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: into our next twads flashback where we will be getting
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: in to part one and part two, The sit Down