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Discovering Kristen · Nick and Kristen in the Podcast

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  Hello and welcome to Nick and Kristen in the podcast.
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  I'm Nick. That's Kristen.
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  We're married and we have a daughter and we used to be on
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  the radio and now we're doing a podcast.
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  So if you're here and you found us somehow, we appreciate you
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  watching and listening and hopefully you're entertained
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  enough to hit subscribe. I don't know, but I I will say
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  if you are not watching this and you're just listening in your
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  car, I apologize. There is no sound to this, but
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  it's it is the probably the most suspenseful video on the
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  Internet right now I've ever seen.
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  All right. Go to our YouTube channel if you
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  want to check this out if you're just listening on Spotify.
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  Or something. Exactly.
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  And I think at some point you should be able to watch this on
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  Apple. I don't know, but here we go.
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  It's the most suspenseful video I've seen in years.
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  So this guy is catching Wasps, giant Hornets.
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  What are they called? Like the murder Hornets?
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  Yeah, these are giant Asian Hornets with just a paper, a
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  plastic cup. Oh my gosh.
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  No protection. And he's and it's working but.
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  They're like stinging him though.
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  No they're not. They're in a cup.
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  Yeah, but the ones around. Him no.
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  So these are attacking a beehive.
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  Oh, oh, that dumb. So you see the little ones,
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  they're all bees, and then the big murder Hornets.
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  He's just like pushing the cup against this wall and captain,
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  he's got like four or five in a cup right now and he's like
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  trying to pinch a close. I know, but.
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  There's one right next to him. I.
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  Know, so I'll just let you live in the suspense.
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  For a while. Why?
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  Why the cup? I don't understand why is he
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  doing this without gloves on or anything.
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  This may be the bravest man on the planet 'cause I hear that
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  this sting. It's like.
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  Incredibly painful. And so he's just like, doesn't
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  care, picks him up. Oh my God, yeah.
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  Well, and then imagine the other hand is holding a phone.
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  Yeah, this guy is like. What does he do?
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  He's just like. Just.
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  Like don't give anything, it's the last one just flew away like
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  a murder. Hornet, since I'm not on the
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  radio like this man is all balls.
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  Like I was watching this and just like the one, the one
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  landed on his hand. I was like, Oh my God, I'm about
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  to see somebody die. Like they're those things were
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  massive. And so I just wanted to share,
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  to share that video and see your reaction in your life.
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  Oh my God. Because yeah, I not, not a
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  chance in hell would I be anywhere near that.
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  Nest. Well, I mean.
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  All my bees. Would be there.
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  Thank goodness for him because they go in and they completely
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  destroy all the colonies, they beheaded all the bees and they
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  just destroy it just for funsies.
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  Yeah, remember the murder Hornet phenomenon?
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  Like. Just in Washington, it was just
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  after the pandemic because we're like, oh, gosh, thank God that's
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  over. And then they're like, by the
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  way, these Asian murder Hornets like came over from a crate like
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  on some piece of fruit from Asia.
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  And now they're like multiplying and completely decimating bees.
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  And oh, by the way, because when the honey bees go, the whole
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  world goes. Yeah.
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  So hope you enjoyed all that time alone in your house because
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  now we're all about to die. They're. 3 inches long and they
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  click. If you hear the click, it's too
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  dead. That's what they said.
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  If you hear the clicking, it's too late.
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  And it's like, Oh my gosh. So yeah, I, I don't know, he
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  must hang out with bees a lot like he must be obviously a
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  beekeeper and there must be a professional.
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  Just the no FS given man it was. Just unreal so.
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  I had to share that with you. So if you haven't, if you
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  weren't watching this, you should watch that and see just
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  if you think you're brave, I don't think you're murder
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  Hornets with a plastic cup. Brave.
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  It's true 100%. And I just wanted to get this
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  out there like so Michael Jackson's the movie The has been
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  coming out and I still haven't seen it yet.
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  I still want to go see it. I'll wait for it to come out on
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  VVT. I have not heard a thing about
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  this since the week it opened. Yeah, I just see a lot of
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  Michael Jackson content now. Like a lot of people have been
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  bringing up Michael Jackson on my TikTok, talking about it and
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  like it past and present. There was somebody that he's
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  his. Her dad toured with Michael
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  Jackson as his backup singer. So she's telling stories.
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  So it's like all Michael. Reminiscing.
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  About exactly. It's nice to see people talking
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  about Michael Jackson. I'm a big Michael Jackson fan,
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  and not everybody is, but I played a song on Alexa the other
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  day and after that song Janet came on and I was like, Oh yeah,
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  Janet Jackson was also great. I feel terrible for forgetting
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  Janet Jackson. When you think of, like, the 90s
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  women that ruled the 90s, you think Mariah Carey, Shania
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  Twain, Céline Dion, Whitney Houston.
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  And I like Way Back is Janet Jackson.
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  But I think Janet is really upfront for a lot of people.
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  Like maybe? Just for you, but I don't think
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  anyone's forgetting about. Janet but I love Janet Jackson.
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  She doesn't get brought up enough like 0 controversy on
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  Janet. Jackson's part Very
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  unproblematic. Yeah, exactly.
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  And like why she? Got the best Jackson at this.
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  Point She might, I think she might because she had like
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  banger after banger after. Because I was like just skip,
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  just like shuffle my Janet Jackson song.
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  And every song that came out, I was like, Oh, yeah.
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  Like if you got time today and you were a Michael Jackson or
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  Janet Jackson fan, remember Janet today?
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  Yeah. Don't tell it to shuffle.
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  I understand Thriller's fun and all, yeah, but like, put on
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  Rhythm Nation, dude, you know what I mean?
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  And then you're just like, oh man, And I can feel good about
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  dancing to this. I don't feel like a weirdo.
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  She had 80s hits, 90s hits, and then like late 90s hits when she
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  had her biggest year. I like cuz she had It's all for
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  you. Oh, I know.
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  Oh, man, Janet. So I just wanted to take this
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  time to apologize for forgetting about Janet Jackson.
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  That's Miss Jackson if you're nasty.
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  It is, yeah. Do you have like did you listen
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  to any, any Jacksons at all? Like did you have any pop
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  leaning myths about you? It's tough because I'm going to
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  be really, really honest on this podcast.
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  I did not have a personality until like junior year of
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  college and I say that. But you can still like things
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  years. Ago, but like I I really didn't
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  allow myself the freedom to discover things that I liked.
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  Like, I very much was like, I was, you know, my mom listens to
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  this podcast, and maybe she'll call me later and disagree with
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  me, but I was a very, like, obedient child.
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  I was very quiet. Yeah.
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  Like, I just watched the world around me.
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  And I kind of reacted. I, you know, there's flight
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  fright of a flight, freeze and fight as like the, the trauma
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  responses, but there's also a fawn, which is like you just
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  kind of observe and you try to meet everybody's needs before
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  they happen to you. And I'm not saying I was like
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  traumatized or anything, but that's who I was as a kid.
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  I was very much like, hey, that reaction got that response.
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  I'm not going to do that. And so because of that, and
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  because I was a little analytical, like I didn't make a
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  lot of mistakes and I didn't express myself creatively.
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  And that definitely showed up in music because I was in
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  community, community theater. So it was just.
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  Say like you had a, you were very expressive on stage.
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  You had to be. Right.
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  When I was being like a different character, sure, but
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  even that was like, what can I do that people will like as
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  opposed to let me try to discover this character myself?
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  Like that's why I don't think I was very good as an actor.
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  I was very much like how do I get cast as opposed to how do I
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  have fun? Or how do you embody this?
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  Person, right? And that's why people today are
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  like, how come you don't do community theater?
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  I'm like because it was never fun.
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  It was a. Conquest, it was trying to get
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  the main part and then having anxiety riddled dreams about
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  that until the show ended. Like none of this was fun for
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  me. It was just the thing that I
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  did. And like, yes, there was an
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  element of it being fun, which is why I did it for so long.
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  But then it got to a point where I was like, I cannot do this
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  anymore. It's it's not fun.
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  It's when you find the thing you love and you turn it into a job
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  you end up not loving. Do you think that I know the
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  word? I'm trying to tangent you, but
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  do you think that your mom listening now would be surprised
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  that you didn't like it? Or do you think that?
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  I think if you, I mean, I think I've been pretty open about
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  that. Like I was not enjoying it for a
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  very long time. Really, OK, really ever since
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  high school, because I went to a performing arts high school and
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  like the minute I started there, I was like, I hate this.
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  Like really, I don't, I don't really get along really well
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  with theater people. OK, They're very, it's been
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  dramatic, I guess. I don't know.
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  I don't want to like pigeonhole anybody, but I'm very, I went
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  into, I approached it like a job, like here, I'm here to do
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  the job, I'm going to do the job and I'm going to leave and I'm
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  going to go home. I'm not going to hang out for
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  three hours afterwards. So you don't have.
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  Any like drama for? Everybody like I had friends but
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  I was never part of like the in crowd at my school, OK.
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  Well, if you were in drama, nobody was.
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  No, you were in drama. School.
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  The drama school. Like out of all the drama
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  people, I wasn't, I wasn't the person that everybody liked, but
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  I was the person that got like the majority of the lead role I
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  was. Going to say you must have been
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  the one everyone hates. I was decent at my job and so
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  there was a lot of like people talking bad about me and, and,
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  and the, the, the teachers saying mean things about me, but
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  then they would cast me in the next thing.
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  And so I'd call them out and I'd be like, Oh, I must be terrible,
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  right, because I'm now I'm your lead.
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  And they'd be, they wouldn't like that.
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  And there was just like a lot of because I was, you know,
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  outspoken or whatever, but like I never really expressed myself
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  creatively. It was always I I go and I do my
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  job like I would at Wendy's, and then I leave.
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  Yeah, like you didn't make. The play, it wasn't, yeah, it
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  wasn't like this passion that I had.
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  And so it wasn't until college, after I switched my major out of
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  theater and stuff, where I was kind of like, oh, what am I
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  doing with my life? And I started making friends
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  that were outside of the theater that liked me because of me.
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  And I was like, what does that mean?
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  And like, I've always been funny and witty, I would hope.
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  I mean, people listening to that podcast might, might be
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  surprised by that. But like, like I've always been
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  quick in my wit and I started like saying it out loud as in
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  supposed to bring them in my head.
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  And that's how I gained a lot of friends.
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  People are like, oh, you're kind of funny.
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  And then it was like I was surrounded by funny people and.
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  Didn't you do like a a funny thing?
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  Didn't twitch you in like a comedy troupe?
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  I did improv comedy at the Ground Links in LA, but again,
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  it was a job. Like I didn't go in there to try
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  to be funny. I went, I went in there to learn
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  the rules of improv and then do it correctly and win improv.
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  You know what I mean? Like that's how that's how I
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  approach life. Like I didn't go in there and
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  was like, what funny character could I do?
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  I'd be like, what do I have to do to make it to the next round?
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  Well then why? Why'd you do it?
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  Because I just, I thought that's how it was supposed to go.
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  Like I thought you, if you approach things as a
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  professional and as a job and you took it seriously.
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  Well, yeah, but. Why did you want to do ground
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  leaks? Because that's like.
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  Well, because I wanted to get better at improv, like I wanted
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  to get better at things, but it was always just to get the next
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  job, not because I had a love of anything.
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  And it wasn't until later that I was like, what is it that I even
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  really like? And that's kind of when I fell
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  into radio. And so for a long time I had to
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  question, like, do I even really love radio?
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  Because that was the thing I did after theater, and it was just
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  the thing I was kind of like, naturally good.
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  At and you did news for a long time I.
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  Did news, yeah. And so and so like that was
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  radio, but I hated it. And every day I had a approach
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  it as a job. And then finally I was listening
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  to you. We'll basically talk about like,
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  oh, I didn't have a stressful day at all.
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  And I'm like crying in the like on my lunch break because I had
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  had to interview the family member of somebody that was shot
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  and they're like, please stop calling.
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  I'm like, it's my job. I was like.
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  Yeah, I was like, why am I doing this?
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  And that's when I finally was like, I need to switch to FM.
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  But in that time I was discovering like, I like to
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  write, I like to draw, I like to do creative things like I and,
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  and now as an adult, I'm like really invested in these
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  passions because I really didn't express interest in anything
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  until late in college. So you're just getting started
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  in life then, is what you're telling?
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  Me. I mean, that's why it's like,
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  that's why I'm like disappointed that we lost our radio job
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  because I was like, hey, man, this money was fueling fun.
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  And I haven't had fun in. I didn't really have fun in my
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  20s. Like it was all about like, I
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  just need to get promoted. So yeah.
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  And it was like the next step, the next step, the next step.
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  Well, now that you've been kicked out of radio, do you
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  think it was still a job? Do you look back and go?
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  No, I actually really enjoyed my time doing radio.
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  Yeah. Or is it like, I'm glad I'm out
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  of that, it was just a job? Well, you know, it's a
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  combination. I, I look back there's because
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  I'm a therapist too. If you're listening for the
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  first time, I'm a licensed therapist.
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  And I've been doing that now exclusively for a couple months
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  now. And there has been moments where
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  I'm like, Oh my God, this is all I do now.
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  Yeah. And there's a saddening fact to
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  that because I do enjoy radio. I enjoy the radio that we did
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  together. Yeah.
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  And I think that that's the problem is like, can we ever do
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  that again? Yeah.
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  Would you do it without me? No.
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  Again, no. OK.
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  I I'm only going to do radio fits with you.
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  You're allowed to do radio without me.
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  Yeah, I'm totally fine. I I chose this.
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  Well, I chose. It too.
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  Well, yeah, yeah, like it also chose you, you know.
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  You're just naturally, I was naturally good at it.
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  Women are a small commodity, a rare commodity in radio.
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  So like, it's hard for women to not work, but I've always worked
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  consistently in radio. I'm a good partner.
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  I've been partnered with some really hard people to work with
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  and I've always won them over and I always work really well
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  with them. Not you.
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  I'm talking about a news mostly, but like I've always worked and
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  I've always been the person that they relied on because I'm so
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  like, I make my partner look good and I know the rules and I
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  can set you up for a joke and I can make the partner really, you
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  know, look like a star. And that's part of the job of
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  both of us, right? Like, I mean, you do the same
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  with me. And but yes, like I think I'm at
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  a point now where I wouldn't do it without you.
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  OK, So what? So yeah, do you have a?
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  Do you miss it? Yeah, I do.
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  OK. I miss doing it with you.
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  OK, well, yeah. And but I don't miss the
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  business of it. I don't like what it's become.
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  Yeah. It's become just this, you know,
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  massive conglomerate. It used to be a lot more
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  creative and fun back in the day.
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  It is tough, yeah. I'm definitely at the point
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  where I'm it's questioning if I even want to get back like I do,
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  not only because it's all that I know how to do, but it's all
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  that I really want to do. So, yeah, it's just hard because
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  like now there's been so many and it, and rightfully so, like
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  lawsuits over things that have happened in radio, some really
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  major ones. Yeah.
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  And like, it killed a lot of the fun and the spontaneity of what
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  you want to do. You'll approach somebody with an
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  idea going, man, I'd love to do this promotion or this contest
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  or whatever it is. Yeah.
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  And like, it's like, yeah. And every all the creative
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  juices are flowing and then it goes to legal and they go, no,
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  you can't do that, Yeah. And then you're.
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  Like giving away $1000 every hour.
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  Yeah, you're going to text the keyword and and then it's like
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  your upper management, you know, their hands are tied and they're
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  like, don't, don't stop giving us ideas.
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  Like don't stop trying. But then it's like, well, none
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  of my ideas ever get picked. And so you end up you end up do
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  stop trying. Yeah.
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  OK, well, let's make a less about radio.
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  We talk about radio a lot. Let's talk about what happened
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  after that. I don't know if we have time.
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  We have a little bit of time. So eventually you got into was
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  the music thing you 'cause you were like all in the scene.
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  Was that before you became a person?
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  Or you mean like like music? Like listening to pop?
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  Music. Yeah, 'cause then we talk,
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  'cause it's all started with talking about pop music.
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  You eventually got your own love for music.
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  I. Did I did, but like again, it
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  didn't. I didn't start formulating my
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  own opinions about music until junior year of, of college.
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  That's when I was surrounded by people that I thought were cool
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  and they introduced me to stuff like one of my friends in in
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  college. She like made me, she's like,
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  here's, here's your music education.
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  And she made me like this mixtape and I remember burning
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  through it and I am so disappointed I don't have it
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  anymore because it was all cool stuff from the 80s.
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  She was very into the 80s, and that's what turned me on to it.
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  And so then I started going down the rabbit hole of things going,
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  well, I like this sound, what else is like this?
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  And by then, the Internet was an actual thing because we were
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  when when, you know, when we were younger, it wasn't really
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  like, it was clunky, you know. And so then I could kind of go
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  and go, yeah, yeah, I liked that because of this.
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  And now I like this. And.
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  And that's where I sort of found my style, 100%.
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  I was a Limewire girl, like Master.
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  Yeah, 100%. So, yeah.
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  I mean, that's where I kind of discovered who I was musically.
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  And I guess you could even say I was, it's just like an offshoot
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  of her. So who knows if I really?
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  Yeah. Are you even a person?
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  I think you are. Now I'm a chameleon.
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  I just become whoever. Miranda, I guess I like whoever
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  you are now. Thanks.
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  So and if you like her, be sure to like and subscribe.
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  Oh my gosh, what a sad ploy. I know.
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  Well, thank you for listening. Thank you for watching and we'll
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  talk to you tomorrow. Yeah.