Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / #192 Making Mornings Magic Replay
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- 0:02Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the
- 0:06Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants answers.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Now, I guess a tip for moms in particular is
- 0:12Speaker 2: not necessarily believing children.
- 0:15Speaker 3: When they say they know exactly where it all lives.
- 0:18Speaker 4: Yeah, we've actually learned that there's two very important words
- 0:21Speaker 4: to say right then.
- 0:22Speaker 3: And that is show me.
- 0:24Speaker 1: And now here's the stars of our show, my mom
- 0:28Speaker 1: and dad.
- 0:28Speaker 4: Hello, this is doctor Justin Coulson. Surviving as school goes back.
- 0:33Speaker 4: In fact, it's such a relief. I'm going to be honest.
- 0:35Speaker 4: I mentioned on Monday, and I'm not even kidding. I'm
- 0:38Speaker 4: relieved that the kids are back at school. If you're
- 0:40Speaker 4: in New South Wales, Act or WA next week, the
- 0:43Speaker 4: relief arrives for you. And I know that as soon
- 0:45Speaker 4: as I say that, somebody's going to say, oh, but
- 0:46Speaker 4: I love holidays with.
- 0:47Speaker 2: The kids, and let's face it, we do.
- 0:49Speaker 4: Usually we do too, But we're at the end of
- 0:52Speaker 4: it and now we're so glad that the kids are
- 0:53Speaker 4: back and it was just getting a bit. It's so
- 0:55Speaker 4: hard for parents who don't have the flexibility to be
- 0:58Speaker 4: at home with their kids. But mornings, my goodness, mornings
- 1:02Speaker 4: are so challenging. Oh, by the way, I should mention,
- 1:04Speaker 4: I'm here with my wife and podcasts partner, missus Happy Families, Kylie.
- 1:09Speaker 4: She's the mom to our six daughters.
- 1:12Speaker 2: Hey, I want to read a review that came through
- 1:14Speaker 2: during the holidays from Mandy Kay. She says, thanks Justin
- 1:18Speaker 2: and Kylie for helping families on such a diverse range
- 1:21Speaker 2: of topics. I always feel more positive and hopeful about
- 1:24Speaker 2: my parenting journey after listening to your podcast. You come
- 1:27Speaker 2: from experience and speak in relatable terms. All parents want
- 1:31Speaker 2: to do better, and you are making a difference.
- 1:33Speaker 4: Five stars. Thanks many, Kay. We appreciate that. And it's
- 1:37Speaker 4: the reviews that you leave that help other people to
- 1:39Speaker 4: find the podcast and make their families happier. So thank
- 1:42Speaker 4: you so much for doing that. Can we invite you
- 1:44Speaker 4: to jump on too, Apple Podcasts and do That'll take
- 1:46Speaker 4: you about two minutes, and it just it makes such
- 1:49Speaker 4: a difference for getting the podcast out there. We've, as
- 1:52Speaker 4: I was saying before, had a lot of people sort
- 1:54Speaker 4: of saying it's great the kids going back, But my goodness,
- 1:56Speaker 4: it's been a disaster so far, and nothing went right.
- 1:59Speaker 3: On day one.
- 2:00Speaker 4: The kids were upset they slept in. There were dramas,
- 2:02Speaker 4: it was a hassle, and it was challenging and all
- 2:05Speaker 4: that kind of thing. And so what we thought we
- 2:06Speaker 4: would do today is dive back into the archives and
- 2:09Speaker 4: share with you one of the most popular podcasts we've
- 2:11Speaker 4: ever recorded.
- 2:12Speaker 3: It's called Making Morning's Magic.
- 2:13Speaker 4: It's based off a New York Times article that I
- 2:15Speaker 4: wrote a couple of years ago, and I reckon now
- 2:19Speaker 4: that the school routine is back in full swing, this
- 2:22Speaker 4: is going to be one very helpful podcast episode.
- 2:26Speaker 2: So whether or not you've heard it before or you're
- 2:28Speaker 2: listening to it for the first time, I think you're
- 2:31Speaker 2: going to gain a lot of perspective from it.
- 2:35Speaker 4: For those who are not familiar with what's in twenty
- 2:36Speaker 4: one days to a happy family. In the bucket metaphor, basically,
- 2:39Speaker 4: your relationship is a bucket, and our job is to
- 2:42Speaker 4: fill our children's buckets with connection. And metaphorically, that's the
- 2:47Speaker 4: water that goes into a bucket. Like you don't want
- 2:49Speaker 4: a bucket full of air, you want a bucket full
- 2:50Speaker 4: of water. That's what buckets are for for carrying water.
- 2:53Speaker 4: So the water is represented by connection and the air
- 2:57Speaker 4: well that's correction and direction. So the question pretty much
- 3:00Speaker 4: is this morning, how much time do you spend connecting
- 3:02Speaker 4: and correcting versus connecting? And I think as we sort of,
- 3:08Speaker 4: you know, we'll talk about the morning routines and stuff
- 3:10Speaker 4: in a sec I think that if we can get
- 3:13Speaker 4: good quality connection into our mornings, which is, let's face it,
- 3:16Speaker 4: missing from most people's mornings most of the time because
- 3:18Speaker 4: there's so much to do and so little time to
- 3:20Speaker 4: get it done. We spend all of our mornings correcting
- 3:23Speaker 4: and directing, and we wonder why our relationships allows you
- 3:26Speaker 4: in the mornings.
- 3:27Speaker 2: Well, we find our children kind of you know, get
- 3:29Speaker 2: sidetracked along the way. Don't they start really well, but
- 3:33Speaker 2: they get a bit sidetracked. Do we constantly having to
- 3:35Speaker 2: redirect them back to what they need to do?
- 3:37Speaker 3: So that's where that metaphor comes from.
- 3:40Speaker 4: And I reckon that if we keep that in mind
- 3:43Speaker 4: as we talk about what we're going to talk about
- 3:44Speaker 4: today in terms of making our mornings magical, that is
- 3:50Speaker 4: probably going to be.
- 3:51Speaker 3: One of the most important things that we can do.
- 3:53Speaker 2: I was thinking that tapping into that, as much as
- 3:57Speaker 2: we talked about being we your feet are, is just
- 4:01Speaker 2: as important because when you think about all of the
- 4:03Speaker 2: things that you're doing in the morning, you're actually not
- 4:05Speaker 2: right where you are. You're thinking about everything that needs
- 4:07Speaker 2: to be done and the need to hurry because you
- 4:10Speaker 2: know you've got to get them out the door and
- 4:12Speaker 2: get them to school, and then you've either got to
- 4:13Speaker 2: go off to work or come home, and you know,
- 4:15Speaker 2: do all of the enormous list of ongoing chores that
- 4:19Speaker 2: just never seem to you, never seem to be able
- 4:21Speaker 2: to get through. And so being where your feet are
- 4:24Speaker 2: is actually going to help slow your thinking down and
- 4:27Speaker 2: the way you interact with your children.
- 4:29Speaker 4: I think it's fair to say that we've had our
- 4:30Speaker 4: fair share of pretty average mornings, which is why we're
- 4:33Speaker 4: pretty passionate about getting mornings right.
- 4:35Speaker 3: Well.
- 4:35Speaker 2: If you were listening to the podcast on Friday, we
- 4:38Speaker 2: gave you a bird's eye view of a morning that
- 4:40Speaker 2: hasn't gone so well.
- 4:41Speaker 3: The short version is that the morning went like this.
- 4:44Speaker 3: I woke up early.
- 4:44Speaker 1: Now.
- 4:44Speaker 4: We were exhausted because our year twelve daughter had her
- 4:47Speaker 4: form all the night before, which meant that we got
- 4:49Speaker 4: home from picking her up extremely late, probably two or
- 4:51Speaker 4: three hours after our bedtime.
- 4:53Speaker 3: So I made Kylie breakfast in bed, chopped up a.
- 4:55Speaker 4: Fruit salt with fresh everything, and I was thinking to myself,
- 4:58Speaker 4: this is going to be the morning that I talk
- 5:00Speaker 4: about in the podcast where I say I just got
- 5:02Speaker 4: this so right. In fact, I was feeling so confident
- 5:04Speaker 4: that I said, to the kids, get yourselves organized, will
- 5:07Speaker 4: ride to school today. And so I don't know what happened,
- 5:10Speaker 4: but I gave Kylie breakfast in bed, and Kylie just
- 5:13Speaker 4: kind of never came out of the bedroom, never surfaced,
- 5:16Speaker 4: which is probably a bit unfair. I expected her to
- 5:18Speaker 4: shovel her breakfast in two minutes and then come out
- 5:20Speaker 4: and help me get the kids going.
- 5:22Speaker 3: Didn't I needed to have a shower.
- 5:24Speaker 4: Wh Yeah, and I'm just out there thinking I'm doing
- 5:26Speaker 4: it all on my own. I've made a breakfast in bed,
- 5:28Speaker 4: for goodness sakes, what's going on?
- 5:29Speaker 2: You kind of lost it at that point, didn't you.
- 5:31Speaker 3: I didn't have a good morning.
- 5:33Speaker 4: And while I don't think that I was necessarily cruel
- 5:35Speaker 4: or unkind to anyone, I just I got a bit shouty.
- 5:38Speaker 3: I turned into shoudy dad. So that was our week.
- 5:41Speaker 3: Last week.
- 5:41Speaker 4: We're doing our best to be better, you know, we're
- 5:44Speaker 4: trying to be better tomorrow kind of thing. What what
- 5:48Speaker 4: do you reckon are the integral essentials of making mornings magic?
- 5:53Speaker 2: Well, you talk specifically about four different things that we
- 5:57Speaker 2: can do in helping to create those magic moments each
- 6:03Speaker 2: morning with our kids. So the first one was really
- 6:08Speaker 2: recognizing and understanding that our morning actually starts the night before.
- 6:12Speaker 3: Do you want to unpack that for us a little bit?
- 6:14Speaker 4: Yeah, so we know that if we can get everything
- 6:17Speaker 4: organized the night before, the next day just runs so
- 6:19Speaker 4: much more smoothly.
- 6:20Speaker 3: So that means when you.
- 6:21Speaker 4: Go to bed, the kitchen's actually tidy and the house
- 6:23Speaker 4: is in reasonable shape. But more than that, it's specifically
- 6:28Speaker 4: the morning stuff like the kids. Do you know where
- 6:31Speaker 4: the kid's shoes.
- 6:32Speaker 2: Are or a school bag or their lunchbox.
- 6:37Speaker 4: They're reading their library books, so it's making sure that
- 6:40Speaker 4: the bag is pretty well packed, the uniform is laid out,
- 6:44Speaker 4: the shoes and the socks and the sports uniform, everything
- 6:47Speaker 4: that they.
- 6:47Speaker 3: Need is ready to go.
- 6:48Speaker 4: If you remember to do that the night before, it
- 6:51Speaker 4: just means that you don't have that pressure of you
- 6:53Speaker 4: What do you mean you can't find your shoes? You
- 6:54Speaker 4: were wearing them yesterday in the car on the way home.
- 6:57Speaker 4: Like you don't have to deal with that stuff.
- 6:59Speaker 2: And I guess tip for mums in particular or dad's
- 7:02Speaker 2: but that for me is not necessarily believing your children
- 7:07Speaker 2: when they say they know exactly where it all is.
- 7:10Speaker 4: Yet we've actually learned that there's two very important words
- 7:13Speaker 4: to say right then, and that is show me.
- 7:16Speaker 3: I want to see them.
- 7:19Speaker 2: So definitely has had such a significant impact on making
- 7:25Speaker 2: our mornings move forward in positive ways when we have
- 7:30Speaker 2: done that preparation the night before.
- 7:31Speaker 3: Yea, Now, if you want to go over the top,
- 7:33Speaker 3: we've done this. We haven't done it for.
- 7:34Speaker 4: A while, but we both know that it works supremely well.
- 7:38Speaker 4: We actually put together a breakfast menu and a lunch list,
- 7:44Speaker 4: and before the kids go to bed, we get the
- 7:47Speaker 4: kids to circle on the laminated breakfast menu what they
- 7:49Speaker 4: want for breakfast the next day, and they choose what
- 7:53Speaker 4: they want for lunch the next day. Because you know,
- 7:55Speaker 4: sometimes they walk out in the kitchen and they're bleary
- 7:57Speaker 4: eyed and they're tired, and they can't decide what they want.
- 7:59Speaker 3: They just open the fridge and stare at it for
- 8:00Speaker 3: four minutes.
- 8:01Speaker 2: Well, the TV is it's not a TV, but they
- 8:04Speaker 2: think it is.
- 8:05Speaker 4: The fridge is so entertained what's in the fridge, And
- 8:09Speaker 4: so what we found is that when the kids are
- 8:11Speaker 4: making decisions the night before for what they'll have for
- 8:13Speaker 4: breakfast and lunch, they just come out into the kitchen and.
- 8:15Speaker 3: Get on with it.
- 8:15Speaker 4: And we've spent time helping them to learn how to
- 8:18Speaker 4: make this stuff, how to prepare their own lunches, how
- 8:20Speaker 4: to prepare their own breakfasts, and they can do most
- 8:22Speaker 4: of it pretty well without our assistance. But the great
- 8:25Speaker 4: thing is now that the decisions are made, even if
- 8:27Speaker 4: they do need help, it's so easy for us to
- 8:29Speaker 4: step in. So that's kind of going over the top
- 8:32Speaker 4: for some parents, but for us, we found it it's tremendously.
- 8:35Speaker 2: Helpful, definitely, and I think in the early stages there
- 8:39Speaker 2: was a lot of involvement needed from me. But as
- 8:42Speaker 2: our children have I guess gone through that process, and
- 8:45Speaker 2: like you said, we've trained and taught them how to
- 8:48Speaker 2: do it, they are very much independent in relation to that.
- 8:53Speaker 2: So I guess one of the other things that we've
- 8:55Speaker 2: talked about in those four different steps is waking our
- 8:59Speaker 2: children up just a few minutes earlier then they need
- 9:02Speaker 2: to be awake, and doing it in such a way
- 9:05Speaker 2: that it's not such an abrupt, rude, you know, intrusion
- 9:08Speaker 2: to this beautiful night's sleep that they've had.
- 9:11Speaker 3: Yeah, so most of the time when we wake the
- 9:12Speaker 3: kids up in the morning, it sounds like this, would
- 9:14Speaker 3: you just wake up?
- 9:14Speaker 4: This is the fifth time I've told you you're ten
- 9:17Speaker 4: minutes later already, it's going to be horrible.
- 9:18Speaker 3: And nobody likes those kinds of wake ups.
- 9:21Speaker 2: I don't think I ever had that. It was just
- 9:23Speaker 2: they turned the light on, Yes, t the light on.
- 9:28Speaker 2: Time to get up?
- 9:28Speaker 4: Yeah, that sort of stuff just doesn't work well. And
- 9:31Speaker 4: so if you want to have a magic morning with
- 9:33Speaker 4: connection rather than correction and direction, I reckon, go and
- 9:36Speaker 4: sit on their bed ten minutes early, give them a squeeze,
- 9:39Speaker 4: give them a hug, let them know that you love them,
- 9:40Speaker 4: and say, are your set for the day?
- 9:43Speaker 3: What can I do to help?
- 9:44Speaker 2: We've done this so well that our six year old
- 9:47Speaker 2: actually comes and.
- 9:47Speaker 3: Does it to me ten minutes early. Yes, I wish.
- 9:53Speaker 2: And so then your last one, justin you talk about
- 9:57Speaker 2: the need to not tell our children what do but
- 10:00Speaker 2: ask them what to do?
- 10:01Speaker 3: How does that actually work?
- 10:03Speaker 4: So so much of our mornings, would you hurry up,
- 10:05Speaker 4: why haven't you done this? Go and get this for me,
- 10:07Speaker 4: Go and pack that away. Like we're constantly telling our
- 10:10Speaker 4: kids what to do, we're correcting and directing, but when
- 10:12Speaker 4: we connect. A great way to engage with the kids
- 10:15Speaker 4: when they're not moving is to connect by asking questions.
- 10:18Speaker 4: You might say, Hey, what's next on your list? Or
- 10:20Speaker 4: is there anything you need help with? I noticed that
- 10:21Speaker 4: you're standing there looking a little bit lost. And when
- 10:25Speaker 4: you reach out and offer to help, or when you
- 10:26Speaker 4: say what's next on your list, those kinds of responses
- 10:29Speaker 4: are much less likely to be perceived as correcting and
- 10:31Speaker 4: directing and much more likely to be felt like, you know,
- 10:33Speaker 4: we're connecting with and we're seeing them, we're valuing them,
- 10:35Speaker 4: we're offering to help them. And that's good for building
- 10:38Speaker 4: the relationship, and it's good for making mornings magic, and
- 10:40Speaker 4: it's good forgetting about the door on time.
- 10:42Speaker 2: And there was lots of ants there. So I'm going
- 10:45Speaker 2: to add my own one little tip, and I think
- 10:49Speaker 2: that it has a huge impact on my morning. It's
- 10:52Speaker 2: just using those gentle reminders. So when the kids have
- 10:55Speaker 2: actually finished or perceived to have finished their morning routine
- 11:00Speaker 2: and they're ready to go to school, and they're already
- 11:01Speaker 2: just to kind of, you know, chill out and wait
- 11:03Speaker 2: for the school bus to come along. That being me,
- 11:09Speaker 2: sometimes I'll recognize and see that they haven't actually done
- 11:11Speaker 2: a few of the things that they needed to do
- 11:13Speaker 2: chore wise or helping out around the house, and so
- 11:16Speaker 2: just a gender or reminder, hey Annie the laundry is
- 11:20Speaker 2: enough for her to kind of kick into gear and go, oh, yeah,
- 11:22Speaker 2: I've got five minutes I can go and do you know,
- 11:24Speaker 2: put a load on.
- 11:25Speaker 3: I love listening to you, I reckon, we should do
- 11:27Speaker 3: this podcast more often.
- 11:29Speaker 2: Well, I really enjoy speaking with Well.
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- 11:52Speaker 4: as well, all about you, missus, happy families.
- 11:54Speaker 2: Wow, my first review. This is a bit exciting. It says,
- 11:58Speaker 2: I'm loving this podcast. I'm always a better parent after
- 12:00Speaker 2: I listened to an episode. Kylie is a great addition.
- 12:03Speaker 2: The husband wife banter is hilarious and very relatable. We
- 12:06Speaker 2: are really enjoying spending time together in this way and
- 12:09Speaker 2: being able to kind of banter.
- 12:11Speaker 3: We're really enjoying that.
- 12:13Speaker 2: It's not very often that we get the opportunity to
- 12:15Speaker 2: just enjoy one another's company and have these lighthearted conversations
- 12:20Speaker 2: about really important things.
- 12:22Speaker 3: So thanks Sarah and Sarah.
- 12:23Speaker 4: Kylie's eyes lit up. She didn't know that was there.
- 12:25Speaker 4: I just threw it in front of her just in
- 12:27Speaker 4: time for her to read it out. So really appreciate that,
- 12:30Speaker 4: and thanks for making missus Happy Families even happier.
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