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[SPEAKER_01]: you are listening to the college football report with Eric and Ryan Robinson, only of the Central Indiana Sports Report.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Eric and Ryan will be back on Friday with their previews and predictions for the first round of the college football playoff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome college football fans to the Central Indiana Sports Report for a special edition
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of subtitle it, the Notre Dame perspective.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, I wanna talk a little bit about Michigan football and what's going on there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing I'm going to say about it, and then I'll let you to have your say, is for if I think I had a case, there were three or four teams going to get it out of those, and Notre Dame wasn't one of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We only argued that I would have, and it's a really big one is then I was Miami ranked behind Notre Dame for the last two weeks, and nobody played.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's what I come down to from the Notre Dame.
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[SPEAKER_02]: perspective as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If they were going to have Miami had a Notre Dame, why weren't they there?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The whole time the last two weeks of when they revealed the rankings didn't make any sense, but you could see the riding on the wall going into the last rankings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I felt like they set Notre Dame up so they could swap them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They really wasn't a good scenario for Notre Dame to get in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If BYU wins, I think BYU was in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: be why you get to be bad, which they did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to drop, put Miami ahead of, be why you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And which in turn puts Notre Dame and Miami back to back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So then they flop them all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is what it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm over it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just hope Miami goes the A and M and gets blown off by 50.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm hoping for the M and Alabama to get runoff out of the stadium.
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[SPEAKER_02]: with Miami getting in is two spots separated them and Notre Dame going into that weekend and either one played.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So how do you justify them moving two spots ahead?
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I told Eric about a week and a half ago I said Notre Dame's going to be out because the moment the committee put Alabama in front of Notre Dame after Notre Dame wins by 30 on the road
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Alabama fights tooth and now to get a win over a horrible Auburn team, they still moved to Alabama ahead of Notre Dame.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I said, all they're doing is setting it up for when they get blown out by Georgia in the conference championship game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're still keeping them in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's exactly what they did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that was a huge lead down and I wasn't happy about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I knew it a week and a half ago that they were going to get left out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's do what every other division in college football does and have a 2014 tournament.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then if you're good enough to compete for a national championship, there's no way you're getting left out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's another argument.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Miami is not a national championship contender.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Notre Dame might have been.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Notre Dame would have been favored at A&M.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And right now, my amys are three and a half point underdog.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that tells you everything you need to know right
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not particularly impressed with how Notre Dame's AD handled it, I think he got a little bit overboard with some of the interviews he was doing, especially on the Dan Patrick show, but some of that stuff is said behind the scenes, but I don't necessarily think he'd go public with some of those thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think, Eric?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was a bad look for Notre Dame.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like the one the one shot he took I did like was the attendant and how much he wanted he didn't say it but he said it without saying it about how much money the ACC makes off a Notre Dame.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was his point by talking about the sellout.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He said only 20% of the ACC games sellout but 90% of the games Notre Dame play in sellout.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, there you go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: ACC, you know, Duke gets in the title game with five losses, but just a regular season speaking, you got NC State going into Duke.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Staying is going to be half full, maybe three, fours, Notre Dame, Notre Dame goes into that same stadium and plays Duke, it's sold out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's just hands down, that's fact.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're a Catholic jubber, where it's a fact.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got to live with it that man, they were playing some good football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were really too bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the end of Jeremiah loves career, especially in that run game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the end of the kind of an era there with with those two running backs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of a shame.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It would have liked to see them compete for national championship, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: until college football gets serious about its postseason, like every other sport in the world, these things are gonna happen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I've mentioned it a month ago, maybe about like, similar to the March Madness, the playing games, I don't want to bore, I don't want to get into it, cause it'll take too much time, but everyone should check out John Grootins' take on fixing the college football playoff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I watched it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I watched it after you told me it was great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's spot on and it's similar to what I what I've mentioned about having play in games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the just of it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You have to keep the the conference championship integrity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I asked to mean everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want that to be kept alive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So on championship weekend when the Indiana's playing a high
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's round one, those teams are basically a lock, love it, to be in, you're not going to get penalized for being in those games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You want to be in those games to lock you into the playoff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why would those teams have to play 13 games in Miami play 12 or Notre Dame 12?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Those teams play that same weekend and fill out the other four spots in the bracket.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's four other games, eight other teams playing on championship week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The winners get in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the just of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he played it out this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It would have fit like a glove with these teams pairing up on Notre Dame plays.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They had Notre Dame play Miami.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They had Oklahoma playing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: text, this may be yes, but feeding wise and ranking wise it worked out perfectly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a great format.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You had to watch the video have all the conference champions in it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's that's the that's the only hole I could poke in it is you had to lay in a James Madison.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That we're getting an automatic bid because they had already won like the night before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what you do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what you do with those two teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you have those small conferences play to get into the tournament, play each other to get into the tournament.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the way I would do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Two or three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have 24, then they can all get in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what we should be talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Real vision in the NCAA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand why they can't do what the other divisions have successfully done for the last 50 years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: because it's too much money at stake and that's why to not the other league.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Too much greed, too many people, probably, to the other end of gender.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The money would be better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be, people would sell out brackets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People who would normally wouldn't be interested would suddenly be interested because they're filling out brackets like the NCAA tournament.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no downside to a 2014 tournament.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're watching the FCS currently do it right now and it's fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't disagree with you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying we're not in charge.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's been people in charge for too long.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think we can all agree to Lane and James Madison have zero chance of winning the national championship.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like we're still given two teams participation trophies to be in that playoff when you got teams like Notre Dame and you are used for Vanderbiltre.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Could represent could represent college football way better than two lane and change Madison.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you don't give those conferences a chance, there's no point in them sticking around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know, I like, I like them having an opportunity, but I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how you picked up because with twelve teams of stuff because a national championship contender like Notre Dame gets left out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel sorry for everyone on their schedule next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Notre Dame's about to just go on a freaking heater next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I'm picking them to win it all right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've got the recruiting classes insane.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've got the defense back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It finished in the top 15.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're loaded.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They are loaded going into next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're going to
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to hang as many points on everyone every week as they can.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're going to run it up every week, I promise you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you mind to CJ Carl with another spring under his belt?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Look at the progression he made this year alone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's our guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got our guy at quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Before we move on to Michigan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel about Notre Dame turning down a ball game and starting to get kind of a reputation as powders?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Them decide not to go to a ball game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It means nothing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing positive about a ball game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You look at what's happened the last couple years, especially last year, got even more evident with the college football playoff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No one went to their bull game with the same team that finished the 12th game of the season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The rosters were already shuffled.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Guys that already left, starters don't want to play in that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's another game where they could risk injury.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're trying to get agents lined up for the draft in the combine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no point in playing a bull game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When they got left out,
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[SPEAKER_02]: and they show that Miami logo come on the screen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I went seasons over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the last time we ever saw Jeremiah Loveplay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I knew there's no way they're going to a bull game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then one of my buddies texts me a couple hours later the breaking news, another day in my upside of a bull game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I texted him back, I said, well, no kidding.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were never going to go to a bull game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no reason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you guys, did you watch any of the bull games last year?
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were awful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's brutal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is so brutal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The stands are empty.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't know any of the players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's absolutely pointless.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just need to intertwine the ball games with the 2014 tournament and it would just be perfect than those stands would be full.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are the play and games on championship week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know either.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're making it so hard not to just fix it and do it right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But to expand on what Ryan's talking about,
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was a little bit of, we're gonna stick it to ESPN a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not gonna, we're not gonna go play and let them make money off off of our brain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think there was a little bit of that in there, but ultimately, I think they knew going into that show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They weren't playing anything other than a playoff game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I agree with Ron, why would you?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if it was any other team, it wouldn't have been a big deal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you know Baylor opted out?
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not full game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you hear anything about Baylor's football?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, but it's Notre Dame.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's make a big deal about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about it all week on every freaking show, about how to bad luck.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People, it's funny because the hate,
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[SPEAKER_02]: towards Notre Dame is never going to for way to you love them where you hate them and the haters just can't stand it that we're so relevant and powerful and college football.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's fact.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not so what's going on at Michigan and what's next for that program.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know Greg and I talked earlier about it candidly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously he had to be fired, but there's a lot of stuff coming out now, I know two very well-known podcasters and top show hosts knew about a week ago, like Midway through the season, this story kind of broke, and Michigan started investigating into it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My Michigan guy at work, he said it was on message board and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: even in the summer time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they've known about this and it's like how aggressive way I just wonder how aggressively they pursued it because I don't think they did because I think they wanted it to just go away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that now we're finding out the relationship did she the female did in the relationship and he hasn't left
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[SPEAKER_02]: And she went to the university and admitted, yeah, this is going on and she wanted to get restraining orders and whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think they were going to try to just let it go away and then.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It looks like the head coach would not let it go away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, she she forced the university's hand when she initially denied the relationship and then when she wanted to end it and I I believe she got let go her employment was terminated that's when she showed up at the university campus and and served.
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[SPEAKER_02]: drop in receipts on everything that had been happening and all of his stalking allegations and text messages.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Eric was going down the right path there where
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[SPEAKER_02]: Michigan slow played this big time just because of the early signing period.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they'll never we can never prove that it's just an opinion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not it's a it's a bad look.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It looks like this that you let this go through the earnings signing period just because you're worried about recruits when you when you have a man with a wife and three daughters of his own just getting torn apart
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[SPEAKER_02]: bad look of many to that Michigan athletic department in the last three or four years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a, that's something a lot of people aren't talking about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, back to the, the Michigan guy I work with Brian Gibson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, why isn't the athletic director fired by now?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's a huge Michigan guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's even saying, this department is like, just embarrassing the last few years of what they've tolerated and kind of tried to hide and keep undercover.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, why is this athletic director not under fire?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's something that may be watched in the future to see if that gains any traction.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My personal thought on the whole thing is I think Michigan's always been kind of a dirty sleazy program anyway, so I hate it for those players and obviously the personal reason that some of the people involved in and what's going on up there is not good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't root for any any of that type of stuff at all, but just Michigan being Michigan man,
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're looking at the doing hand that Arizona State, and then surprisingly, someone who really seems to know what she's talking about, that Heather Denich on the SPN, she did a little soundbite earlier.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, the borer is saying he's not interested in any job.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She said, don't be surprised if he's not that next to Coach at Michigan, even if just get through his playoff run, he's keeping his head down focusing on Alabama.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She says that this vision is not final.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She thinks she knows what she's talking about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's right a lot of times, so we'll keep an eye on maybe before going to Michigan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think once they lose the Oklahoma Friday night, Michigan's name and him head coach Sunday afternoon.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know he's the dyna, but that's what you have to do when you're when you're teens still playing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That no one's ever said, yeah, I'm interested in that, I want to take that job.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They all have to say they're not interested, but I think he's definitely interested, and I don't think they're going to make a strong playoff push.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're going to have their season ends Friday night, and I think things talks between him and Michigan will heat up pretty quickly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think, Eric, you and I've talked about this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Michigan's probably a better fit for him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it'd be easier to follow for sure on more than Nick Saving.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or even Jim Harbour.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He wanted a national title, even though he cheated.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they, without a doubt now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That, that, they should put an asterisk on the national championship.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was,
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was Bullcraft.
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[SPEAKER_02]: From a program standpoint, Michigan's going to be fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's Michigan Wolverine football.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They'll find a code, so they'll get back to their winning ways.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a series of bad publicity for that school.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When something like this happens, I think of the family and the people involved.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think about the code.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He made his decisions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he gets what he deserves.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just the family.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And those
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[SPEAKER_02]: as young kids that are going to have to deal with with all of it once they start going to school and people are talking about their daddy and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it's a shame.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks once again to Eric and Ryan for talking some college football with me.
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