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- 0:00SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the Home Care Podcast.
- 0:03SPEAKER_01: Imagine holding your breath while you're just trying to button your shirt.
- 0:06SPEAKER_00: Oh, that sounds awful.
- 0:07SPEAKER_01: Right?
- 0:08SPEAKER_01: It's uncomfortable.
- 0:08SPEAKER_01: But now imagine holding your breath while you're standing at the stove, like trying to cook breakfast.
- 0:13SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's a whole different level.
- 0:15SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 0:15SPEAKER_01: And for millions of seniors living with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease or COPD, I mean, that isn't a theoretical exercise.
- 0:22SPEAKER_01: It is just a Tuesday morning.
- 0:24SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell It's their reality.
- 0:25SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 0:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 0:26SPEAKER_01: And when a loved one is first diagnosed with a chronic respiratory condition like this, the overwhelming reality, it just sets in so fast for you.
- 0:34SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Oh, instantly.
- 0:35SPEAKER_01: You're, you know, you're sitting in the sterile doctor's office, the word chronic is just echoing in your head.
- 0:41SPEAKER_01: And suddenly you are handed this massive stack of pamphlets.
- 0:44SPEAKER_01: Trevor Burrus, Jr.
- 0:44SPEAKER_00: Just a mountain of paperwork.
- 0:46SPEAKER_01: Trevor Burrus Right.
- 0:46SPEAKER_01: You walk out into the parking lot feeling like you've been dropped without a map into the middle of this totally bureaucratic and medical maze.
- 0:54SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell It is an incredibly daunting moment.
- 0:56unknown: Yeah.
- 0:56SPEAKER_00: Because the reality of a chronic diagnosis, it doesn't just affect the patient.
- 1:01SPEAKER_01: No, not at all.
- 1:02SPEAKER_00: It instantly drafts the entire family into this new reality.
- 1:06SPEAKER_00: Like you are thrust into this role of an amateur care coordinator.
- 1:10SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Which nobody trains you for.
- 1:12SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 1:12SPEAKER_00: And the landscape of options out there is vast and frankly is just intimidating.
- 1:18SPEAKER_00: Families have to learn a completely new vocabulary overnight.
- 1:22SPEAKER_00: Often while they're just dealing with the immediate the emotional grief of watching a loved one lose some of their independence.
- 1:29SPEAKER_01: Which is exactly why for today's deep dive, we are clearing the fog.
- 1:33SPEAKER_01: We've got a highly focused stack of sources today that address this exact friction point.
- 1:37SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell It's such an important topic.
- 1:39SPEAKER_01: It really is.
- 1:40SPEAKER_01: So we are unpacking a fantastic, really insightful article by Rana Batani.
- 1:45SPEAKER_01: It was published on October 1st, 2026, and it's titled Home Care Support for Seniors Living with COPD.
- 1:52SPEAKER_00: A great read.
- 1:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:53SPEAKER_01: And alongside that, we are analyzing the detailed background and sort of the service framework of a specialized agency operating right in the Chicagoland area called Home Care Powered by AUAF.
- 2:05SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 2:05SPEAKER_00: So the overarching mission for our discussion today is to really decode the specific role of non-medical home care for a senior living with COPD.
- 2:15SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Decode is the perfect word for it.
- 2:18SPEAKER_00: Because we really need to sharply separate this from medical care, which is just a massive point of confusion for families who are navigating the system for the first time.
- 2:27SPEAKER_01: Oh, completely.
- 2:28SPEAKER_00: And we'll highlight exactly how this specific type of daily support operates on the ground for families, you know, using the AUAF model in Chicago as our like a real-world blueprint.
- 2:39SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Absolut.
- 2:40SPEAKER_01: Okay, let's unpack this because the botany article makes a point right at the beginning that I think anchors our entire understanding of this disease.
- 2:46SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell It really sets the stage.
- 2:48SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Yeah.
- 2:49SPEAKER_01: Like when we talk about COPD, we are talking about a lung disease that is very common among older adults.
- 2:54SPEAKER_01: But the immediate practical impact, day in and day out, is that ordinary tasks suddenly take a significantly greater amount of energy than they used to.
- 3:03SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 3:03SPEAKER_00: And we really need to look at the physiological mechanics behind why that happens.
- 3:08SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah, let's get into that.
- 3:09SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Because we often think of chronic illnesses in terms of like acute pain or sudden medical crises.
- 3:15SPEAKER_00: But with CLPD, the defining everyday struggle is a profound, inescapable baseline fatigue.
- 3:22SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Just constant exhaustion.
- 3:25SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Exactly.
- 3:26SPEAKER_00: To understand why a simple task is exhausting, you have to look at what the lungs are actually doing.
- 3:32SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 3:32SPEAKER_00: In a healthy person, the tiny air sacs in the lungs, um the alveoli, they're like little balloons.
- 3:39SPEAKER_00: They stretch to take in fresh air, and they snap back easily to force the stale air out.
- 3:43SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell So they have that like natural rubber band elasticity.
- 3:46SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Precisely.
- 3:47SPEAKER_00: But with COPD, that elasticity is severely damaged.
- 3:51SPEAKER_00: The lungs, they lose their snap.
- 3:53SPEAKER_01: Oh wow.
- 3:54SPEAKER_00: So they end up trapping stale air inside.
- 3:57SPEAKER_00: And because that stale air is trapped, there's less room for fresh oxygen to come in.
- 4:02SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell That sounds suffocating.
- 4:04SPEAKER_00: It is.
- 4:05SPEAKER_00: The body then has to forcibly work overtime, using the diaphragm and chest muscles just to push that carbon dioxide out.
- 4:13SPEAKER_00: A person with advanced COPD is essentially running a low-grade marathon while just sitting in their armchair.
- 4:19SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Man, I've heard the analogy of a smartphone battery where you wake up and take your phone off the charger, but the battery is already sitting at 10%.
- 4:28SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's a brilliant way to put it.
- 4:30SPEAKER_01: Trevor Burrus, Jr.
- 4:30SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 4:31SPEAKER_01: That is the daily energy reserve for someone dealing with this.
- 4:34SPEAKER_01: Doing simple things like opening an app on your phone or, you know, in real life taking a shower, it drains that remaining battery incredibly fast.
- 4:42SPEAKER_00: What's fascinating here is how non-medical home care is specifically designed around preserving that precious battery life.
- 4:50SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Oh, okay.
- 4:51SPEAKER_01: Tell me more about that.
- 4:52SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Well, the care isn't there to cure the underlying battery defect, right?
- 4:56SPEAKER_00: It's there to run all the background applications so the user doesn't have to.
- 5:00SPEAKER_00: I love that.
- 5:01SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 5:01SPEAKER_00: As Batani's article points out, home care fills in the logistical gaps around the clinical plan a doctor has already set.
- 5:08SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
- 5:09SPEAKER_00: Trevor Burrus, Jr.
- 5:09SPEAKER_00: So by outsourcing the physical exertion of daily chores, the senior gets to save their limited breath and energy for the parts of their day that actually bring them joy and meaning.
- 5:19SPEAKER_01: But if we are talking about bringing someone into the home to preserve a patient's health and like manage their physical limitations, we really have to draw a strict boundary here.
- 5:28SPEAKER_00: We absolutely do.
- 5:30SPEAKER_01: Because navigating the healthcare system means you need to know the distinct difference between home care and home health.
- 5:36SPEAKER_01: And I know for a fact families trip over this constantly.
- 5:38SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell They do all the time.
- 5:40SPEAKER_00: And it is entirely understandable because the terms sound, I mean, virtually identical.
- 5:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they really do.
- 5:46SPEAKER_00: But legally, clinically, and practically, they are entirely different ecosystems.
- 5:52SPEAKER_01: Okay, so I'm gonna play the role of the stressed family member here, right?
- 5:55SPEAKER_00: Go for it.
- 5:56SPEAKER_01: I'm looking at a kitchen table just covered in medical bills and agency brochures.
- 6:00SPEAKER_01: Wait, if a senior has COPD, they probably have an oxygen tank sitting in the living room, or they uh are using a specialized nebulizer for breathing treatments.
- 6:10SPEAKER_00: Sure.
- 6:10SPEAKER_00: Very common.
- 6:11SPEAKER_01: So isn't a caregiver coming into the home managing all that medical equipment, like checking the oxygen saturation levels on their finger?
- 6:19SPEAKER_00: It is the most common assumption families make, but the answer is a firm no.
- 6:24SPEAKER_01: Really?
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 6:26SPEAKER_00: Home care is strictly non-medical support for daily activities.
- 6:30SPEAKER_00: Skilled medical services, which include, you know, nursing visits, administering breathing treatments, listening to the lungs with a stethoscope, or making any adjustments to oxygen flow, that all falls strictly under home health.
- 6:43SPEAKER_01: Oh, I see.
- 6:44SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 6:45SPEAKER_00: Home health is delivered under a very specific clinical plan of care directed by a doctor, usually involving registered nurses or respiratory therapists.
- 6:53SPEAKER_00: Caregivers do not adjust or manage oxygen equipment.
- 6:57SPEAKER_01: Wait, so if a non-medical caregiver from a home care agency is in the house and they see the senior struggling, they are never going to walk over and like turn up the dial on the oxygen tank?
- 7:08SPEAKER_00: Never.
- 7:08SPEAKER_00: They are legally and professionally prohibited from adjusting medical equipment.
- 7:13SPEAKER_00: Wow, okay.
- 7:14SPEAKER_00: They follow established non-medical care instructions.
- 7:17SPEAKER_00: Any decisions about equipment settings, um oxygen levels, or treatments, that always comes from the person's doctor.
- 7:24SPEAKER_01: Okay, but I have to push back on that a little bit.
- 7:26SPEAKER_00: Sure.
- 7:26SPEAKER_01: If a caregiver is in the house for hours at a time and the senior suddenly starts experiencing a severe exacerbation, they are turning blue, or they can't catch their breath at all.
- 7:36SPEAKER_01: The caregiver can't just ignore it because they aren't medical, right?
- 7:40SPEAKER_01: How does a non-medical agency handle an actual medical emergency?
- 7:44SPEAKER_00: That is a critical distinction.
- 7:46SPEAKER_00: And it comes down to observation and training rather than medical intervention.
- 7:50SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Okay, observation.
- 7:52SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Right.
- 7:53SPEAKER_00: Non-medical caregivers are trained to be highly observant early warning systems.
- 7:57SPEAKER_00: While they won't administer a medical intervention themselves, they are trained to recognize the red flags of a COPD exacerbation.
- 8:05SPEAKER_01: Aaron Ross Powell Like what kind of red flags?
- 8:06SPEAKER_00: Things like cyanosis, which is that uh bluish tint to the lips or fingernails, or excessive wheezing, or a sudden change in mental state due to low oxygen.
- 8:16SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 8:16SPEAKER_00: Their protocol in those moments is to immediately bridge the gap to the medical professionals.
- 8:21SPEAKER_00: They contact the home health nurses, they call the doctor, or in an acute emergency, they call 911.
- 8:27SPEAKER_00: They manage the environment and ensure safety while getting the clinical team involved.
- 8:32SPEAKER_01: So they act as the eyes and ears on the ground, but they don't play doctor.
- 8:36SPEAKER_00: Precisely.
- 8:37SPEAKER_01: That makes a lot of sense from a safety standpoint.
- 8:39SPEAKER_01: It protects the patient from well-meaning but totally unqualified medical adjustments.
- 8:44SPEAKER_01: And I guess it means families aren't forced to choose one or the other.
- 8:48SPEAKER_01: You don't have to pick between medical care and daily support.
- 8:51SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Not at all.
- 8:52SPEAKER_00: In fact, many families actually use both services together.
- 8:56SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
- 8:56SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 8:57SPEAKER_00: They use home health for the medical needs.
- 8:58SPEAKER_00: You know, the nurses coming in a couple of times a week to check the lung function and manage the oxygen.
- 9:04SPEAKER_00: And then they use home care to support daily life in between those medical visits.
- 9:08SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell I look at it like maintaining a vehicle.
- 9:11SPEAKER_01: The home health medical team is the specialized mechanic fixing the engine, checking the transmission, making sure the car can physically run.
- 9:18SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 9:18SPEAKER_01: And the non-medical home care team is making sure the car is clean, gassed up, and safely driving down the road every single day.
- 9:25SPEAKER_00: That is a highly accurate way to visualize it.
- 9:28SPEAKER_00: I mean, the mechanic isn't going to drive you to the grocery store, and the driver isn't going to rebuild your carburetor.
- 9:34SPEAKER_00: You need both to function.
- 9:35SPEAKER_01: So true.
- 9:36SPEAKER_01: So since we've established the firm boundary that caregivers aren't touching the oxygen dial, they have to preserve the patient's breathing capacity in other ways, which provides that welcome consistency we read about in the sources.
- 9:48SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 9:49SPEAKER_01: So let's break down the practical pillars of everyday support.
- 9:52SPEAKER_01: We're talking about specific services like personal care, right?
- 9:55SPEAKER_01: Bathing, dressing, grooming.
- 9:56SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Yes.
- 9:57SPEAKER_00: And the article specifically notes that this is often the very first area where extra help matters.
- 10:02SPEAKER_01: Which makes sense.
- 10:03SPEAKER_00: It's where a senior's energy is depleted the fastest.
- 10:05SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Yeah.
- 10:06SPEAKER_01: Thinking back to our physiological discussion, taking a shower is basically a perfect storm for a COPD patient.
- 10:12SPEAKER_01: You have the heat and humidity of the bathroom, which makes the air feel heavy.
- 10:16SPEAKER_00: Very heavy.
- 10:16SPEAKER_01: And you have the physical exertion of standing, the constant arm movements required to wash your hair.
- 10:22SPEAKER_01: For someone running that low-grade marathon, a 10-minute shower can wipe out their entire energy reserve for the day.
- 10:28SPEAKER_00: It really can.
- 10:29SPEAKER_01: So having a caregiver offer steady physical support removes that massive friction point.
- 10:34SPEAKER_01: Plus, there's light housekeeping, laundry help, running errands, and even private sitters.
- 10:39SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 10:40SPEAKER_00: Think about carrying a laundry basket up a flight of stairs, or pushing a heavy grocery cart.
- 10:45SPEAKER_00: By removing these physical demands, the caregiver is directly impacting the senior's respiratory stability.
- 10:52SPEAKER_01: Okay, looking at this list of tasks, I have to ask about meals, because this is a common point of family friction.
- 10:58SPEAKER_00: Oh, meals are huge.
- 10:59SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 11:00SPEAKER_01: Like my dad is notoriously stubborn about his diet.
- 11:02SPEAKER_01: He loves fried food, he loves salt.
- 11:05SPEAKER_00: A lot of people do.
- 11:06SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 11:06SPEAKER_01: So if a non-medical caregiver is there to prepare meals, what stops them from just frying up bacon every morning if that's what the senior demands?
- 11:14SPEAKER_01: Do they just act as a short-order cook?
- 11:17SPEAKER_00: Aaron Ross Powell They absolutely do not.
- 11:19SPEAKER_00: And this is where the caregiver acts as an extension of the broader care plan.
- 11:23SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 11:23SPEAKER_00: While caregivers prepare meals, they don't design the diet.
- 11:27SPEAKER_00: They strictly follow the guidance already provided by a doctor or dietitian.
- 11:31SPEAKER_01: Ah, I got it.
- 11:32SPEAKER_00: So if a doctor has provided a low-sodium heart-healthy plan, which is very common for COPD patients, to prevent fluid retention, the caregiver prepares meals that match those instructions.
- 11:44SPEAKER_00: They use redirection and gentle adherence strategies, you know.
- 11:47SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Here's where it gets really interesting, though, like when we talk about medications.
- 11:52SPEAKER_00: Oh, yes.
- 11:53SPEAKER_01: Because we established earlier that this is strictly non-medical care.
- 11:57SPEAKER_01: A caregiver isn't a pharmacist or a nurse.
- 11:59SPEAKER_01: So how on earth does a non-medical caregiver interact with a complex pillbox?
- 12:04SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell It's a delicate but crucial boundary.
- 12:07SPEAKER_00: Caregivers provide medication reminders, not medication administration.
- 12:11SPEAKER_01: Okay, reminders.
- 12:12SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 12:13SPEAKER_00: They help keep the senior on schedule.
- 12:15SPEAKER_00: This might involve bringing the pre-sorted pill organizer, which was already set up by a family member or a home health nurse, to the senior at the correct time, giving them a glass of water and keeping a logged record.
- 12:27SPEAKER_01: So they are the organizational force, but all treatment decisions come from the doctor.
- 12:31SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 12:31SPEAKER_00: They cannot prescribe, they cannot make judgment calls on dosages, and they do not administer injections.
- 12:38SPEAKER_00: But maintaining that routine is critical.
- 12:40SPEAKER_01: Definitely.
- 12:41SPEAKER_00: Because missing a dose of a maintenance inhaler can quickly lead to an exacerbation.
- 12:45SPEAKER_00: If we connect this to the bigger picture, all of these practical tasks, the laundry, the meal prep, the medication reminders, they add up to something significantly deeper.
- 12:55SPEAKER_01: Aaron Ross Powell You're talking about the psychological impact.
- 12:58SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 12:59SPEAKER_00: Emotional support and companionship matter just as much as the physical assistance.
- 13:04SPEAKER_00: When you have a chronic respiratory condition that limits your mobility, your world shrinks incredibly fast.
- 13:10SPEAKER_01: Oh, I can imagine.
- 13:11SPEAKER_00: You stop going out, friends stop visiting because you're too tired to entertain.
- 13:16SPEAKER_00: A caregiver's steady presence provides crucial companionship.
- 13:20SPEAKER_00: It eases the isolation of a chronic condition.
- 13:22SPEAKER_01: It provides an emotional lifeline.
- 13:24SPEAKER_00: And not just for the senior, but for the family caregivers too, right?
- 13:28SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 13:28SPEAKER_01: Managing a loved one's daily needs is draining.
- 13:31SPEAKER_01: This scheduled home care supports family caregivers by sharing that demanding daily load.
- 13:37SPEAKER_00: It allows a daughter to just be a daughter again instead of a full-time maid and cook.
- 13:42SPEAKER_01: Now that we have this framework of how COPD care operates, let's look at how this is applied in the real world.
- 13:48SPEAKER_01: Our sources gave us a lot of background on home care powered by AUAF.
- 13:52SPEAKER_00: Yes, their model is a great blueprint.
- 13:54SPEAKER_01: AUAF has been a leading non-medical in-home care agency in the Chicagoland area for over 30 years.
- 14:01SPEAKER_00: That's a long time to build trust.
- 14:02SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell It really is.
- 14:04SPEAKER_01: They are licensed by the Illinois Department on Aging, or IDOA, with a goal to enable the highest possible level of independent living.
- 14:11SPEAKER_01: And their service area is just massive.
- 14:14SPEAKER_00: It has to be to serve that region.
- 14:16SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Yeah.
- 14:17SPEAKER_01: They serve Chicago, Arlington Heights, Barrington, Bloomingdale, Evanston.
- 14:21SPEAKER_00: Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Those are huge communities.
- 14:22SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 14:23SPEAKER_01: And Hoffman Estates, Lincolnwood, Morton Grove, Mount Prospect, Niles, Palatine, Roselle, Schomburg, Skokie, Streamwood, and all the surrounding areas.
- 14:32SPEAKER_00: It's an incredible geographic reach.
- 14:34SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell It is, but the truly defining feature here, the power of language.
- 14:38SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 14:39SPEAKER_00: This is so important.
- 14:40SPEAKER_01: The staff is fluent in English, Assyrian, Arabic, Spanish, Polish, Russian, Ukrainian, and Persian.
- 14:48SPEAKER_00: We really need to analyze why that matters.
- 14:50SPEAKER_00: Because if companionship and emotional support are just as vital as physical help for a COPD patient, having a caregiver who speaks the senior's native language is a massive advantage in combating isolation.
- 15:03SPEAKER_01: Oh, the cognitive load alone of translating when you can't breathe?
- 15:07SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 15:08SPEAKER_00: The cognitive load of mentally translating a second language is significant.
- 15:13SPEAKER_00: But if you're an older adult whose first language isn't English, and you are experiencing shortness of breath, you're already in a panic.
- 15:21SPEAKER_01: You're just trying to survive the moment.
- 15:23SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 15:24SPEAKER_00: Having to struggle to communicate your basic needs in a second language during physical distress is exhausting.
- 15:31SPEAKER_01: It's an actual health risk at that point.
- 15:33SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell It is.
- 15:34SPEAKER_00: So having someone who speaks your language mitigates that panic.
- 15:38SPEAKER_00: It allows for genuine storytelling and nuanced human connection.
- 15:43SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell So taking all of this in, what does this all mean for you and your family listening right now?
- 15:48SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Well, there's a clear behavioral metric to watch for.
- 15:52SPEAKER_00: If you notice a loved one struggling more than usual with meals, personal care, or housekeeping, it's a clear sign that scheduled support could help.
- 16:00SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Though, of course, symptom changes like shortness of breath must go straight to the doctor.
- 16:04SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Always, always straight to the doctor.
- 16:06SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell It's about building a team.
- 16:08SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell And you know, before we wrap up, I think we need to address how hard it is to accept this help.
- 16:13SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell It is often the hardest step.
- 16:16SPEAKER_00: Which leads to a final sort of provocative thought for families to mull over.
- 16:20SPEAKER_01: Okay, let's hear it.
- 16:21SPEAKER_00: Aaron Ross Powell We often think of independence as doing everything completely by ourselves.
- 16:24SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Right, that rugged individualism.
- 16:26SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Exactly.
- 16:27SPEAKER_00: But if a senior with COPD uses a caregiver to handle the exhausting chores, allowing them to use their limited breath and energy to actually engage with their family and enjoy their hobbies.
- 16:39SPEAKER_00: Isn't that the truest form of independence?
- 16:41SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
- 16:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 16:43SPEAKER_01: You're strategically delegating so you can reclaim your actual life.
- 16:47SPEAKER_01: I love that reframe.
- 16:48SPEAKER_00: It's incredibly empowering.
- 16:49SPEAKER_01: It really is.
- 16:50SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you so much for joining us for this deep dive.
- 16:53SPEAKER_01: Navigating the maze of chronic respiratory care is undeniably tough, but the resources and the specialized teams are out there.
- 17:00SPEAKER_01: Keep learning, keep asking those vital questions to your care providers, and take care of each other out there.