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Brian Cashman's Magnificent 7 Acquisitions For the Yanks; Terminello's Take on MLB Trade Deadline 2025 (recorded 7-31-2025) · OneLegUpAlex Media

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  Speaker 1: Here's your host, Alex Derrett.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, well before tonight's meltdown of the three new
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  Speaker 2: acquisitions of the Yankees Bullpen, I'm talking about Jake Bird
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  Speaker 2: and Ben Nar and well Deval. I want you to
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  Speaker 2: hear how excited I was earlier today when I said
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  Speaker 2: this on my social media accounts, that Cashman I still
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  Speaker 2: believe it cooked this stray deadline.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta say with the move today.
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  Speaker 3: Of Marcus Truman being cut, I gotta also say with
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  Speaker 3: these seven new guys Brian Cashman brought over, including a
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  Speaker 3: well needed reinforcements in the Bullpen, Blanka Duvala, Bennar, Linka Bird,
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  Speaker 3: Cashman is cooking and I'm gonna play Terminoo has taken
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  Speaker 3: a little bit here on the one I got network,
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  Speaker 3: but Cashman is cooking, and I think that's a big news.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I was just telling Nathan that most likely
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  Speaker 3: we might see a hopen.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't seen since the nineties. They have that formula
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  Speaker 2: to not only.
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  Speaker 3: Come back in the division, but go further than that.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm just the biggest, most hopeful I felt after
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  Speaker 3: a trade deadline in a little while, and of course
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  Speaker 3: last year's acquisition Jazz Chisholm has fit nicely into this
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  Speaker 3: year's Yankee team, and of course he was part of
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  Speaker 3: last year. So the deadline has been very good to
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  Speaker 3: the Yanks the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: But this year, this year, I think every.
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  Speaker 3: Yankee event should be hyped up and yes, Irish American
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  Speaker 3: Baseball Society because Ryan McMahon has made a name for
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  Speaker 3: himself in just the first few games as a Yankee's
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  Speaker 3: and he did.
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  Speaker 2: He actually hit the should have been the go ahead
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  Speaker 2: game go ahead hit tonight after vote be tied it
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  Speaker 2: at ten to ten, but the Yanks blew a nine
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  Speaker 2: to four lead. That's the bottom line here, and it's
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  Speaker 2: one of those things that has to be corrected for
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the weekend. But my excitement for these
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  Speaker 2: seven acquisitions, I call them Brian's bunch. Not in there.
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  Speaker 2: Listen to how I was so excited after the trade
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  Speaker 2: deadline yesterday at six o'clock with Lou Terminal. All right, folks,
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  Speaker 2: the Yankees have a bullpen. We love to see it.
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  Speaker 2: We have Jake Bird, we have Doval. The biggest prize
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  Speaker 2: for the Yanks this year this trade, and bednar all
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  Speaker 2: I had to say my reactions feel like it took
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  Speaker 2: a jet to holiday beats the Jet.
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  Speaker 4: Two on to day.
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  Speaker 2: At least for tonight or last night. At this point,
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  Speaker 2: we'll see what the Yanks can do. It's only game
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  Speaker 2: one of the series. I do have a low PTSD
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  Speaker 2: from play homes blowing a six run lead very much
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  Speaker 2: like three pitchers did tonight in place of one. But
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  Speaker 2: I have confidence that it's only game one and everything
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  Speaker 2: will shape together. Maybe I'm a little wild to say
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  Speaker 2: it was the nineties type of bill that we could
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  Speaker 2: be looking at with all these acquisitions, But now here
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  Speaker 2: we go. Lou Terminello, what are your thoughts on all
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  Speaker 2: of this? On Terminello's take, Alex, thank you for having
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  Speaker 2: me as always.
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  Speaker 1: A crazy, crazy trade deadline day. I don't remember a
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  Speaker 1: trade deadline day like this maybe ever.
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  Speaker 4: It really separated the haves from the have nots. And
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  Speaker 4: I don't mean financially the teams with a lot of
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  Speaker 4: money and the teams not that aren't as a well
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  Speaker 4: healed as others. But as far as contenders from now pretenders,
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  Speaker 4: we now really there's really a line of demarcation between
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  Speaker 4: the contenders and the pretenders for the rest of the way.
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  Speaker 4: And it was pitching dominated, relief pitching dominated usually. I
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  Speaker 4: mean ten years ago, the trade that propelled the Mets
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  Speaker 4: to the World Series was getting Cespitus, and there was
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  Speaker 4: nothing like that in this trade scenario. It was all
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  Speaker 4: about pitching, pitching, and more pitching, because the state of
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  Speaker 4: pitching in the major leagues in twenty twenty five is it's.
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  Speaker 1: A different animal, It's a different ball game.
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  Speaker 4: The Yankees did a good job getting Bednard, getting Camillo
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  Speaker 4: daval at the deadline, right, it actually came right what
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  Speaker 4: was at.
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  Speaker 2: The eleven hour, right, Yeah, fortifying their bullpen this week
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  Speaker 2: with Greg Risoto, Bryne.
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  Speaker 1: Hellsley and I love Tyler Rodgers.
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  Speaker 4: And then they got Cedric Mullins today, whose last game
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  Speaker 4: as an orio. When I was watching, yes, they made
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  Speaker 4: one of the best catches of the year, showing a
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  Speaker 4: vertical leap going over to center field fence to make
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  Speaker 4: a catch.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a big Cedric Mullins fan, but I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean, you know, he can't hurt. Let's put it that way.
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  Speaker 4: So it but just goes to show you, Alex, the state.
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  Speaker 2: Of fire today with the Mets, they found their center fielder.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what was wrong? I mean I thought Tyrone
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  Speaker 2: Taylor is good in centerfield, isn't he.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, no, he's he's he's Gold Glove level center fielder.
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  Speaker 1: But he can't hit, you know. I mean he's seven
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  Speaker 1: for his last seventy.
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  Speaker 4: Three on a team that has a very inconsistent offensive team.
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  Speaker 4: I was hoping the Mets might be able to get
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  Speaker 4: a better hitter, but Alex, there were no better hitters
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  Speaker 4: out there. Forty is now that is is uh what
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  Speaker 4: used to be two seventy is now forty five?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it really, it really is. I mean I
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  Speaker 2: think why Judge's average of about three fifty is so
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  Speaker 2: remarkable right now, because it is.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a it's a whole different ballgame.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, the Mets and the Yankees fortified their roster,
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  Speaker 4: There's no question about it.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I mean people don't realize this because
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  Speaker 2: the Angs eventa tail spin out of the division, but
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  Speaker 2: they still have a playoffs hopes. Obviously look crazy to say.
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  Speaker 2: I think for these moves, they still could be division contenders.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, let's faceball, no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 4: I still think they're going to win a division and
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  Speaker 4: I'm surprised Toronto didn't make any major moves today. That
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  Speaker 4: surprised me. But uh uh, it's going to be for
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  Speaker 4: a very interesting six weeks. Okay, so let's look at
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  Speaker 4: this one. For the sake of this little discussion, we'll
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  Speaker 4: say we'll get Toronto the division.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna win.
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  Speaker 4: It, but as of today, we'll give them a discussion.
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  Speaker 4: So that's three teams, Toronto, Detroit, Houston they're in. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: so they got five teams left. You got the Yankees, Boston, Seattle, Texas,
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  Speaker 4: and Kansas City's.
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  Speaker 1: On it for free.
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  Speaker 4: I'm keeping them in the They're only three games out,
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  Speaker 4: alex which one which three teams are going to get in?
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  Speaker 1: I have three, I have my three. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be Yankee, Seattle, and Texas. I think Boston will
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  Speaker 1: just miss.
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  Speaker 2: There were teams.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're a team in transition. They have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of young guys.
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  Speaker 4: I think they'll just miss, and I think next year
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  Speaker 4: they'll become a real contender. And then in the National League,
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  Speaker 4: I think the six teams are are locked in. It
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  Speaker 4: just just a matter if they're going to be division
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  Speaker 4: winners or if they're going to be in that two
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  Speaker 4: out of three wild.
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  Speaker 1: Card scenario, which I hope the Mets can avoid.
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  Speaker 2: And even they're you know, they have division hopes too,
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  Speaker 2: They're very much on the division. But I want to
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  Speaker 2: go back to a couple of teams in the AL
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  Speaker 2: before I move to the NL. The Orioles and the
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  Speaker 2: Twins have me thinking, Wow, they just lost that window.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they're trading with everybody. It's almost like they
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  Speaker 2: had a window and they couldn't fulfill it. Now they're
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  Speaker 2: just emptying house. I think I heard O'Hearn was traded
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  Speaker 2: as well, or no.
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  Speaker 1: Yes he was, he was. He was traded. He was
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  Speaker 1: traded with Ramon Loreano to the Padres.
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  Speaker 4: The Padres had the best day today, the Padres, I think.
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  Speaker 4: And again these trades were coming at a rapid fire
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  Speaker 4: pace that you really you really almost have to take
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  Speaker 4: a time later on and look back.
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  Speaker 1: But I would say that the Padres won the trade deadline.
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  Speaker 1: They have a chance to win the World Series, Alex,
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  Speaker 1: they're that good.
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  Speaker 4: They're getting getting a JP Sears, a very good left handed,
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  Speaker 4: a solid left handed pitcher in the rotation.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, they didn't trade.
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  Speaker 4: Dylan Cees and getting Mason Miller, who has four years
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  Speaker 4: left in his rookie contract.
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  Speaker 1: That's gonna be great for that's gonna be great for
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  Speaker 1: the Padres.
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  Speaker 2: I see Nest, someone's on me, nasty Nest got traded today.
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  Speaker 4: I believe he got traded to the Pirates, right that
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  Speaker 4: that happened, like in the last five minutes of the
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  Speaker 4: trade the trade deadline, about five to six, he was traded.
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  Speaker 2: And uh, I'm look, I'm just happy, I think. And
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  Speaker 2: then of course we've got talking about Suarez going to
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  Speaker 2: the Mariners. Now, he's gonna be a pain in the
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  Speaker 2: Al this season for sure, especially if the Mariners do
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  Speaker 2: make it. And it's funny because Eugenio, you know, he
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  Speaker 2: got hurt a couple of days ago, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: does that decrease his trade stock? But obviously he did not.
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  Speaker 4: Well, if he had broken his hand, he'd still be
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  Speaker 4: on Arizona Diamondbacks. But it wasn't it wasn't that bad
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  Speaker 4: of but that bit of an injury. But Seattle did
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  Speaker 4: a nice job. I mean, the lineup needed some fortification.
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  Speaker 4: And uh, he's not gonna be the offensive player. He's
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  Speaker 4: a very good offensive play, don't get me wrong, but
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  Speaker 4: he's not gonna hit the home runs at the Raid
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  Speaker 4: he did in Arizona in Seattle because Seattle's bullpok is
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  Speaker 4: not a home run hitting bullpop.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we'll see. I mean, the Mariners still have
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  Speaker 2: a great lineup and I think they're gonna go far.
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  Speaker 2: I just Rallies having a magical year and he hasn't
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  Speaker 2: slowed down since the derby. You know who also helped.
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  Speaker 2: The All Star Game helped. I think Schwarberg got helped
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  Speaker 2: by that swing off. He's been hitting a homer since
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  Speaker 2: that All Star Game.
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  Speaker 4: Well, okay, so I think we're going to talk about
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  Speaker 4: the All Star Game today, But since you brought it up,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't watch the All Star Game, and I know
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know anything about the swing off until the
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  Speaker 4: next morning. That is one of the biggest embarrassments in
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  Speaker 4: my sixty plus years as being a baseball fan. And
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  Speaker 4: then I had some I heard some people next day
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  Speaker 4: saying that they should institute to swing off into the
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  Speaker 4: regular season.
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  Speaker 1: Alex, if that happens, it will really test me to
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  Speaker 1: be a diehard baseball fan.
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  Speaker 4: That was that was horrible. I'll just say, even in
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  Speaker 4: a stupid All Star game, that was horrible.
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  Speaker 1: Just my opinion. But again, but getting back to Schwarber.
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  Speaker 4: Schwarber was having a tremendous year and he will be
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  Speaker 4: unrestricted free agent at the end of this year.
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  Speaker 2: And where do you think he goes? Do you think
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  Speaker 2: the Phillies resign him or no?
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  Speaker 4: I would say that the Phillies will have the best
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  Speaker 4: shot of resigning him for sure. I mean they have
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  Speaker 4: a pretty tight knit group. Now they might want to
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  Speaker 4: get younger. The Phillies don't have that not that young
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  Speaker 4: a team. So again, and they have a lot of
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  Speaker 4: money and all. They're one of those teams that could
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  Speaker 4: that can spend.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll see.
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  Speaker 4: But if he wants to come to City Field and
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  Speaker 4: be the Mets d H for a couple of years,
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  Speaker 4: I would have no problem with that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, he would be great with that port and say,
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  Speaker 2: but uh, you know, we'll have to see. Now, let
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  Speaker 2: me ask you this, LUI back to today, after it
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  Speaker 2: all shakes up, I still think I was said of
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  Speaker 2: the division, I mean, I feel like, what's your top three?
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  Speaker 2: And then we didn't get to that yet.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: Well, again, I think I think the six NL teams,
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  Speaker 4: which I did not think would be is we know
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  Speaker 4: this early?
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  Speaker 1: This is just me.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, teams could collapse and somebody might pull a Detroit
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  Speaker 4: like they did last year after Detroit celled off players
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  Speaker 4: and they just got a lot.
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  Speaker 1: But as of today, I.
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  Speaker 4: Think the six playoff teams are in. I think he
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  Speaker 4: got the Mets in the fields. In essential, he got
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  Speaker 4: Chicago and the amazing Milwaukee Brewers, and then you got
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  Speaker 4: Los Angeles and the San Diego Padres.
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  Speaker 1: In the West, I.
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  Speaker 4: Would say Cincinnati is still in it. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: they're going to do it. So I think, uh, I think.
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  Speaker 1: Those it's going to be. We just don't know if
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  Speaker 1: the Mets or the Phillies are going to be the
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  Speaker 1: division winner.
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  Speaker 4: We don't know if the if the Cubs or the
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  Speaker 4: Brewers are going to be a division winner or a
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  Speaker 4: wildcard team. And San Diego was three games behind the Dodgers,
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  Speaker 4: but I think with their acquisitions today and even before
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  Speaker 4: these acquisitions, they were still in it uh to be
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  Speaker 4: a potential division winner.
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  Speaker 1: So but I think the six teams are.
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  Speaker 4: Are set, and I think that I think the Dodgers
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  Speaker 4: will win the division obviously. So all it's all about
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  Speaker 4: staying healthy and avoiding long slumps.
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  Speaker 1: And again we've talked about this early.
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  Speaker 2: Well look at that Tiger team. I mean, they're nine
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  Speaker 2: games up and they've been slumping heavily, but because divisions
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  Speaker 2: like that, you wouldn't know that unless you're really following
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  Speaker 2: the day to day action.
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  Speaker 1: They lost twelve out of thirteen games, which in.
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  Speaker 4: Most in most divisions will kill the team that had
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  Speaker 4: lost to twelve out of thirteen games. There's still nine
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  Speaker 4: nine and a half games in front. Because the americanly
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  Speaker 4: Central is.
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  Speaker 2: So bad and the Indians, sorry, the Guardians really did
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  Speaker 2: not sell and they're going through their own problems right
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  Speaker 2: now with gambling and everything. But I mean they didn't
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  Speaker 2: sell anybody either. That was kind of interesting, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody had typical leadoff hitter. He can't back third, he
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  Speaker 1: can't buy six.
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  Speaker 4: He has to bat first, and unless there's a trade
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  Speaker 4: that the paperwork is still being done, and you know
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  Speaker 4: sometimes trains are announced after the deadline, you know, working
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  Speaker 4: with the with Major League base fall to make sure
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  Speaker 4: that all.
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  Speaker 1: Of the details are taken care of. But I doubt it.
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  Speaker 1: He's not. He's still on the Indians, excuse me.
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  Speaker 2: On the Guardian Correa though, I gotta talk about this
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  Speaker 2: because I wonder if the Twins were gonna get rid
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  Speaker 2: of get him, get rid of him down the road?
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  Speaker 2: Why m and signed? Like I guess there was a
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  Speaker 2: hope there, But I don't remember a big return like
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  Speaker 2: this in a while. Maybe you know of a guy
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  Speaker 2: that was returning back in a trade deadline.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I was surprised Carlos Krayt went back to Houston
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  Speaker 4: because they said that.
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  Speaker 1: He had a full note trade clause.
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  Speaker 4: And I think the only team he said he would
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  Speaker 4: go back to would be the Astros. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if the Twins are picking up any of his salary.
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  Speaker 4: We don't have those details as of yet as we
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  Speaker 4: talk here at about six forty with.
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  Speaker 1: The trade deadline just ended. But they need somebody to
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  Speaker 1: play third base.
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  Speaker 4: And no team had the injuries that the Houston Astros
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  Speaker 4: have had, and that they still had their best offensive player,
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  Speaker 4: Jordan Ovarez, and they're still in first place by four
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  Speaker 4: or five games. They've done a remarkable job, by the way,
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  Speaker 4: Next to Cortees traded to the Padres, to the Padres,
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  Speaker 4: not the Pirates.
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  Speaker 1: I just I just that just came across.
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  Speaker 2: I know the rumors. Often the rumors were swirling and
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: people were like who do I trust? Who do I trust?
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  Speaker 2: I mean with the Yankees, I trusted Jack Curry. The
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  Speaker 2: guy announces on yes all the time, he tweets about them,
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  Speaker 2: he follows them to the te He's the guy who
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  Speaker 2: go to m Brian Hope too.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, Jack.
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  Speaker 2: Curry is on every day, so why would you trust him?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm very happy that they did not get out
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  Speaker 2: of Bin Rice because look what he did today at
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  Speaker 2: three run home run. There were some rumors he was
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  Speaker 2: floated out there, and I'm glad I didn't go to
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  Speaker 2: Spencer Jones. There was a rumor that he was gonna
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  Speaker 2: be in a trade with Skimes Pirates. I don't know, but.
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  Speaker 6: If the if the Pirates traded schemes already. First of all,
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  Speaker 6: again that talks about them, and that's not for today.
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  Speaker 6: The Major League Baseball still has major problems. I mean saying,
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  Speaker 6: I say, if we were in Pittsburgh and we you're
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  Speaker 6: a Yankee fan, I'm a Met fan. I know you're
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  Speaker 6: a little bit of a Met fan also.
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  Speaker 2: But I want any New York team a serve.
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  Speaker 1: I'm only a Met fan.
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  Speaker 4: But say if we were in Pittsburgh and we were
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  Speaker 4: Pirate fans, and we we drafted this kid number one
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  Speaker 4: overall schemes and we know we're not gonna sign them,
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  Speaker 4: and he's gonna get I bet you, I bet you get.
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  Speaker 1: Schemes in the next two years, gets traded. I bet
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  Speaker 1: you won't even get the year five.
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  Speaker 4: And if and uh, he becomes a free agent after
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  Speaker 4: year six, I bet he doesn't even come close to
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  Speaker 4: year six.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, it's that's a that's a problem with major
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  Speaker 1: legue baseball.
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  Speaker 4: And you saw the incident in the Phillies Doug in
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  Speaker 4: the Phillies clubhouse the other day when Manford I am
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  Speaker 4: going around talking about the upcoming labor situation, apparently, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm no fan of Rob Manfred, I am not, but
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: he did apparently.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: He didn't even bring up a salary cap.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: He was just updating the players on on what was
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: going on. And and for Harper to curse at the
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: Commissioner of Baseball was totally uncalled for, totally uncalled for.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: He could have been disciplined.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: I guess he wasn't disciplined because then you have the
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: problem with the players Association that I don't know.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: And probably witnesses would have to step up and say, yeah,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: we saw it right, we weren't there no one was
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: in that room that we I mean, no one that's
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: on the outside were was in that room. So we
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: don't know, I mean I don't know.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: Well again again, the thing is apparently Commissioner Manford didn't
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: bring up Sally Recap allegedly at all.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: According to one report.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: All right, let me, let me, let me talk about this.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about this because twenty five years ago,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: you know, one of my favorite players in New York
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: was Joe McEwing. We got Irish heritage back, baby, Ryan McMahon. Now, uh,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, what a what a juice to that lineup.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: And it's only been game number four for him at
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: the Yankees uniform or game number five now today.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Well, Joe McEwing was one of my favorite Mets and
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: he as you know, he owned the great Randy Johnson,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: which is just which makes no sense. And uh, he
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: almost became he almost became a manager before Mendoza. He
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: was he was up for the managerial job and he
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: was also I think up for the managerial job with
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: the White Sox.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: But he was the White Sox manager for a while.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah and uh yeah, and uh that's right. Yeah, and.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: Uh, you know he's a folklore Met. Yeah, for sure.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: You know he hit how he hit Randy Johnson. So
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: the Tigers did a nice job. Also, they get getting
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: Charlie Martin. I mean he's forty one years old, but
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: the guy can still pitch. I'm surprised the Mets didn't
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: get a starter. But again, Alex, we're in a different era,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: so it must have all these relief pitchers now, so
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Ryan Stannik and Reed Garrett, who are pitching in the
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: seventh and eighth inning because they have added Soto and
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: Hellsley and Rogers, they can the starting pitchers can go
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: three and a third or four and a third, and
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: they could they could put Stannik in. They have six
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: or seven relief pitches to put in. I don't think
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: it's an attractive look for Major League Baseball overall because
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: you saw all the relief pitchers that I mean, fifty
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: relief pitchers must have got traded today, and uh, I
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: don't think.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: It's in Now there's talk, I mean they want to
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: move Schlitzler to the bullpen. Look the Yankees, and actually
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I actually have seen since the Kershaw three thousand strikeout
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: pitchers are actually being able to pitch Now I don't
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: know what it is, but like guys now in more
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: complete games in my notice before the three thousand game,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: maybe these guys are being allowed to pitch a little
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: bit more inspired like Kershaw.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Well again, I.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Mean the uh, I haven't seen a big increase in
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: a complete games.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: I just don't know where pitching is going with all
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: these guys getting hurt, all these all these guys getting
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: UCL injuries, which well and.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Even yesterday show Hey got taken out in the fourth inning.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I believe, yes he did. Now he had cramping.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: He had some kind of cramping, uh, in the lower half,
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: you know, when.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: You know, And Babe, Ruth was such a unicorn I
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: guess you're say in this way to pitch. He was
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: a great pitcher in his own right. And then the hit,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: the way he did it was pretty incredible.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Alex.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: For about forty five years he had the record for
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: most consecutive schooreless innings in the World Series when he
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: pitched for the Red Sox.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: He was one of a kind.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: He's the greatest team sports player of all time in
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: any sport, all right, lady Jordan, whatever, Babe is the
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: greatest team the team Sport individual Player.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: One hundred oh and Cavalier are also to the Yankees,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: so they added a lot of guys and I think
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: wasn't it was he the guy that was across the
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: diet like all the goes the first base side after
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: being traded from the race.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: That's kind of that's that's correct, and he will help
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: the Yankees. He's got good speed.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: I don't know why this puts volpi if in heavily criticized,
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: and I don't know if it's and I think it's
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: been a little bit much. I don't think he deserves
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: the critics as heavily as he's gone it. I mean, hey,
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: the guy basically won a game for them last night, didn't.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Absolutely And he get that great look and both he
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: has an energy to him that I don't care how
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: many areas he makes. You need that energy on the team.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: There's just no doubt about it. So it'll be fun.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: And they did win today. They're actually at sixty wins,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: which is pretty good for the end of July. I mean,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: it's better than I thought would be at the end
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: of July. So that's good. And you need to get
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: to sixty to get to the start to August. All right,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: you mentioned commissioners, and I have to ask you this,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: with what happened on Monday, the tragedy Monday at the
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: NFL office, you know, NFL headquarters, do they now really
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: take CTE a little more serious? I feel like they
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: haven't done it enough. Is this the moment that they say, Okay,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: let's really look into this.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: No, a couple of things. The NFL has taken ct seriously.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: They have now the tragedy that happened the other night,
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: This twenty seven year.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: Old lunatic lunatic, but we don't know he had if
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: he had CTA.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Now I'm sure they'll do an autopsy on his brain,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: so we don't know if he had CTE. And I
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: just feel bad for everybody who suffered the other night.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Obviously, the guy people who died, an NFL employee who
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: worked in the NFL finance department, was shot in the back.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: But he was a hero getting leading a lot of
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: his employees either out of the.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Building or to safety.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously he went to the wrong floor, he
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: went to the thirty third floor, and unfortunately he killed
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: innocent bystander. Was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Because the NFL offices are on floors five to eight.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I don't know how he was able to talk in
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: that courtyard and nobody saw him, nobody called, and.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: They weren't able to subdue him earlier. But that that's
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: that's just the same situation.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: But I do think the end I do think, uh,
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: the NFL has taken CTE seriously. But Alex, Unfortunately, when
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: you playellision sport, no matter what they do to try
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: to make it make it more safe, you're gonna you're
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: gonna have a players who are gonna suffer CTE.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: It's that's just it's just a nature to sport, unfortunately,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: and that's a decision you'll That's.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Not to say, you know, I I don't. I don't
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: agree with parents saying their kid out of football. Feel
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: like football builds character in a different way than the
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: other sports does. It also builds toughness. Let's be honest
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: with that.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: No, I think I agree with you, and I think
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: sports in general, I think playing at athletics in general,
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: whether you're whether it's a whether you're male or female,
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: I think bill character makes you makes you.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Not only physically tougher, makes you mentally tougher.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: Getting when your coach and you yelled at by a
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: coach for doing something wrong.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Who's trying to make you better?
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Not not dehumanizing you, but try try and make you
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: a better athlete, whatever sport you're playing.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I think that helps you in everyday life.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, well, look at Michael Jordan was cut from
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: his high school basketball team. Yeah, and look what he became.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: So there are stories like that that changes everything. Well, Lou,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: this has been great.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I know we have a hockey audience. It's kind of
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: dead at the moment. But but I did hear a story,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: sure enough. But someone I met on the l r
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: C you had like a glass, a seat of the
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: glass or lower level to watch. Ob I don't know
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: how true that is, but hey, you know what, the
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: story is so flowing from that ov goal. People are
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: still talking about it months later.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: Well it was a story goal obviously. But yeah, this
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: is a dead time for hockey. I mean we're about
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: six way six weeks away from training. It's gonna be interesting, obviously.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: One the season begins for all three New York teams.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: And I heard a crazy rumor apparently out of Canada,
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: about ten days ago when I didn't see it anywhere else,
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: so I'll.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Just I'll mention it.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: But I don't think there's any credence to it that
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: Doug Hamilton, defenseman, the great defense for the Devils, might
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: be on the trading block. I don't believe it because
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: I heard it, but I haven't. I don't think there's
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: smoked that fire. And you know, obviously, when you look
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: at you know the Islanders. Will Matthew Barzel betrayed at
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: the deadline if the Islanders are out of it.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Obviously, he's had some major injuries the last couple of
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: years and he come to a point of no return
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: where even though he's an outstanding player, injuries to do
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: a factory.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: By the way, this was the busiest m BE trade
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: deadline I can remember in a while. I don't remember the.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Big I don't remember being being better.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: So we got hockey on basketball talk about as we
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: as we move on. But about a half hour ago
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: I did get there was the Knicks did sign the
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Bridges four years, one hundred and fifty million dollars.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I was a little surprised. I wasn't sure. I wasn't
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: totally sure they were going to read they were going
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: to give me. So the Knicks. The Knicks are setting,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: They're they're set in place.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know how much they've improved their team they
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: are in the Eastern Conference.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: We'll have to see, uh you know how much uh
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: these teams that are up and coming, like Detroit and Orlando,
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: how they've uh gravitated to the next level.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: We'll have to wait and see.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: But obviously next year is the next is the next
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: best chance to get to the NBA finals.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Oh that that's that's a big year and it's another
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: one of those core years for them. So yeah, well I.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: It's it's it's pay for them, is paid for them
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: to get it. So yeah, but besketball a lot of
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: people talked about and football down the road obviously.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's Malik is dealing with the shoulder
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: injury there. That's that's I want to.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Worry about it a little.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: But we got to talk about the big We gotta
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: talk about what happened over the weekend. One more one
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: one other thing because last week Billy Wagner, each year,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: ow and of course CC Sabathia all going in and
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: you know, I loved every one of them mentioned New
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: York organizations, whether it was CEC of course, with the
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Yankees going in as a Yankee each year, mentioning the
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Yankee ties, Billy Wagner thanking Willie Randolph and Rick Peterson
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: during his speech. I thought that was pretty cool because
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I watched that whole generation right there. I remember watching
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Cliff Floyd catch the game winner and left field catch
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: the final out to win the NL East in two
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: thousand and six, and of course David Wright I think
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: got a home of that game or something like that.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: He was a big part of that six UH division win.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: And of course Billy Wagner was the closer. Now if
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: I'm mistaken, I'm not mistaken. I don't believe it was
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Wagner that gave up the homer to Yadie or was
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: it it was Aaron? Yeah, it was Ilmen. And I
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: think Wagner bitch earlier in the game or something. I
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: could be wrong, but he definitely made an appearance that night.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Billy the Mets in two thousand and seven. Two thousand
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: and seven, when the Mets blew that seven game lead
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: with seventeen to go, Billy Wagner, I believe was injured
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: the whole month of September, so we didn't play and
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: that that effect that that definitely affected the mention wing.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: I'm sure it was two thousand and seven.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: But yeah, no Billy Wagner.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm a tough Hall of Famer greater as
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: you know, I would not if I had that Hall
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: of Fame vote, I probably wouldn't vote for Billy Wagner. Sabbathia. Yeah,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: excellent picture. I never thought of him as a Hall
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: of Famer.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: But I didn't know he had three thousand strikeouts plus.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: That's a pretty good achievement right there. So well, I
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: mean there's.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: A lot of but again, like I said, I'm a
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: tough grader.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: I think Scott Rowland's a Hall of Famer. Now, each
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: Roll was a Hall of Famer, there's no question about that.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: And the late Richie Allen, who I saw his entire career.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, he can rake, and when he was one
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: of those guys Alex, when he came up to the
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: plate and he was playing your team, you would just say,
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: please just keep the ball in the ballpark. That's a
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: ton offensive player. He was in a pitching dominated era.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say one of the other things
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: about All Star Weekend, by the way, were some of
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: these guys, I hate to say it, are becoming I
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: don't say I unrecognizable, but they're getting older. And I'm like,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: which player is that. I don't know if you noticed that,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: but it's.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Almost like I noticed it. Oh, absolutely I could.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Recognize some of the guys. I hate to say it, but.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: And let's not short change the great Dave Parker. He
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: had almost twenty eight hundred hits.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: He was.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: An l MVP. He shouldn't know he could have been
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: in earlier.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he could have been while he was alive.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: But you know, well, at least he knew at least
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: at least he got in while he was still alive.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: That's what he didn't, you know. He didn't have a
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: chance to make his speech.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: And that was emotional too. And by the way, I
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: don't know if this happened in a while, but a
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: announcer and a player that were tied to the same
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: team going at the same time. Uh, Tom Hamilton going
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: in with The Guardian as a As a Guardians announcer,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: I've always loved the way he announces the game.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Well, he loves he loves the Guardians, he loves the
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: and before that, the Indians.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: He's he's outstanding. But he's one of those icons of.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Of baseball broadcasting, one of the great local broadcasters.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: And that's why he's in the Hall of Fame.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: All right, I want to rally up for three more minutes.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I got if they do, because this was the first
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame day where Pete Rose was not banned
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: from baseball. By the way, that's a big storyline that
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: don't really talk about. He's not been from baseball. If
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: they do go ahead and vote him, it does that
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: open the door for those like a Rod, Bonds and McGuire.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: And we could just end that chapter and say, hey,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: major League Baseball k new was going on, therefore they
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: should be in because MLB let it happen.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Alex I agree with you one hundred percent.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: If Pete Rose is elected, it does open the door
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: for the steroid guys.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: It does.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: That would be only right, That would be only right.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: It's a little bit different because uh uh, betting on
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: baseball is a cardinal sin in baseball.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: We know that.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: But as Class A just got suspended for doing that, well,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: What I mean. We could talk. I know, we got
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: we're coming to the end. We got ninety seconds left
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: or so.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: But the Class A situation is a major problem, and
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: it's not so much on on the players. Baseball and
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: all sports have now opened up gambling.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: They take millions of dollars.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: From fan, duel, from you two bet, from all these
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: different betting situations.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: We said it was gonna happen. It's you called it.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: You called it. And by the way, who was the
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: first MOLB team to open a sports book? The Cincinnati Rids, which.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Is yeah, which is which is hilarious, It really.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Is, especially because Rose besides his addiction, he did have
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: an addiction there. What a player and I never had
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: to watch him play, but what a player. Alrighty, lou Terminola.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Before we wrap up tonight, we have to honor the
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: late Now. I can't believe I'm saying late Ryan Samberg.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's only sixty five and he had dealt
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: long and hard and fought hard with his cancer. But Lou,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: as we remember Rhino, my dad's favorite club player I
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: met thirty years ago, and then we went to the
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: induction ceremony twenty years ago. Lou up in Cooper's Town.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: What's your favorite memory of Ryan Samberg?
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if it's my favorite memory, but
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: I remember Ryan Samberg very well.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Obviously, he was a Hall of Fame player, a Gold
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Glove winner.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: He I think for a while had one of the
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: long streaks, like over one hundred and fifty games or
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: out of arrow or something like that.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: He was just he was an outstanding player.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: Was drafted by the Phillies, and I think he was
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: going to play college football before he was drafted by
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: the Phills.
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  Speaker 1: Played I think maybe one of just one or two
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  Speaker 1: games for.
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  Speaker 4: The Phills, and then the Phills sprayed them to the Cubs,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: where he became a superstar and.
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  Speaker 1: A Hall of Famer.
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  Speaker 4: He's connected with my Mets fandom. In nineteen eighty four,
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: the Mets were just starting to come. That was the
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: first year the Mets came out of those seven of
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: the darkest years in franchise history. Strawberry Darryl Strawberry was
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: rookie year in eighty three. Davey Johnson was rookie manager.
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  Speaker 4: In nineteen eighty four. Ron Darling I believe, was in
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  Speaker 4: this second year with the team. They had gotten him
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  Speaker 4: from the Texas Rangers in the trade, and Dave Johnson
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: convinced Frank Cashen to promote Dwight Gooden, who was only
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: nineteen years old at that time, to come with the
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: team from the beginning of the season. And they had
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: gotten Peterrnandez at the trade deadline the year before nineteen
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  Speaker 4: eighty three, so that was Keith's first full year, and
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: the Meds and Cubs were in a neck and neck race.
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  Speaker 4: Now the Mets were supposed to be nowhere. They had
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: lost ninety plus games for the previous six or seven
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: years in a row, and the Mets were hanging in
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  Speaker 4: with the Cubs. The Cubs had gotten Rick Sudcliffe at
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: the trade deadline, which in those days was June fifteenth.
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  Speaker 4: Sudcliffe won an Alsai Young Award. He was sixteen and one.
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  Speaker 4: From June fifteenth on. They had gotten from the Cleveland
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Indians in the trade. So the Mets and Cubs were
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: neck and neck, but they had big series with each
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  Speaker 4: other in August and then in early September, the Mets
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: could not beat the Cubs. The Mets was either six
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: out of seven or seven out of eight and ended
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  Speaker 4: up being six or five or six games out of
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  Speaker 4: the Divisionally, the Mets won ninety games that year, which
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: was a tremendous feat and set them up for there
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: the nineteen eighty six championship. And really the Mets were
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: good every year for the rest of the decade. But
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Sandberg was a difference maker. And in mid June, mid
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: or late June, this is what this is the Ron
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Sandberg moment. I remember he was playing the Cardinals, their
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: big rivals, at Relief Field. It was an NBC game
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  Speaker 4: and the Cardinals were down, were up, excuse me, nine
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  Speaker 4: to eight. The bomb of the ninth inning, and future
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: Hall of Famer Bruce Souter was on the mound for
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: the Cardinals, outstanding Hall of Fame closer gives up a
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: home run the Sandberg Cardinals take the lead in the
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: top of ninth inning. I believe this were two runs
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  Speaker 4: and I and in the bottom of the n I
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  Speaker 4: it's top of the tenth thing. He scored two runs
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  Speaker 4: to take the lead. In the bottom of the tenth inning,
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  Speaker 4: Sandberg came up again with a runner on base. He
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: had another home run into the bleachers, tying the game.
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  Speaker 4: The Cubs won the game either the next inning or
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: a couple of innings later. But Sandberg was such a
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: great play, had such a great game and hit those
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: two clutch home runs or of a future Hall of Famer.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: Both times, Suitor was still in the game in the
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: tenth inning, and that propelled the clubs to win the
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: division and keep the met a young Mets team at Bay.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Great player. He later managed the Phillies. Unfortunately he left
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: us way too soon, he really did.
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  Speaker 2: But I tell you, the Cubs did it right. They
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: put up his statue before he passed. And that's not
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: a dig at the Mets. I'm just saying, at least
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: he saw his statue go up.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Well that I mean, can't You can't control when somebody's
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: gonna you know, how long, when somebody's gonna live and die.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: But the Mets, obviously you should have had sever statue up,
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: you know, in the late eighties after they retired his
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: number in eighty eight. I assume you were talking about
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: Tom sever when you talked about that, But you know,
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Sandberg was was outstanding. Now, the Cubs were a great
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: team in eighty four. They should have won the National
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: League pennant. They got they went to they got to
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: a two zero lead against the Padres in the NLCS.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: They were the first two games at at Wrigley Field,
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: and then even though they had a better record than
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: the Padres in those days, they switched one year to
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: the next. The East had the home field advantage, the
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: West has the home field advantage, and the Padres had
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: games three, four, and five at home, and unfortunately for
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: the Cubs, the Padres rallied to win games three, four
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: and five and an inferior a good but inferia Padres
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: team beat the Cubs and got slacked in the World
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: Series four games to one by the Tigers. I think
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: a Tiger Cub World Series in nineteen eighty four would
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: have been tremendously close, even though the Tigers had a
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: super team, they had the best team in baseball.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: They got after a thirty five and five start that
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: year and really coasted home.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely well. Love this chat and we'll do this again
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  Speaker 2: next week at the One Leg Up Network