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THE MK Podcast Episode 1 · WDYM What Do You Mean?

• 0:25
  SPEAKER_00: We're doing something different.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_00: This is the MK Podcast.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_00: Hi, Mills, Michael Gles.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_00: We have the MK Podcast, along with Kegan Robinson.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, and we're starting something brand new on the channel.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_00: We're going to try something different, something more focused on uh wrestling, uh anime, uh pop culture, everything.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: We're going to get it all together in the MK Podcast.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: So, first and foremost, welcome to the show.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_00: And we're going to get right into it.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_00: The Cincinnati Bengals.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_00: The Cincinnati Bengals started their preseason uh this past Thursday, I believe.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_04: Uh yes.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and against the Detroit Lions.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_00: Being a Cincinnati fan is rough, is what I'm definitely gonna say.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_04: It is very rough.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, there for a long time, you you know, you weren't really with the motion of the Bingles, the emotion.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_04: You still showed up because, you know, you live in a city, you're gonna show up for the Bingles.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_04: But I would say up until recently when we drafted Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, that's when we really kicked off the comeback.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, you know, we had the Super Bowl, um, we had the two AOC championship appearances with you know coming up short the second one, and these past couple seasons not uh being able to get there.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but with that being said, this preseason so far, especially in their training camp, I've seen a lot of improvement.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_04: They made a lot of wise picks and trades over the over the course of it.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm excited to uh talk about a little bit.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_04: There's two in particular people I am uh I'm going to be talking about uh here.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_04: So uh to get started.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_04: Uh first person I'll talk about is Dexter Lawrence, sexy Dexie.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_00: Sexy Dexie.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_00: Is that what he's calling himself?
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_04: That's what he's been called, sexy Dexie.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you what, I'm not calling no man sexy Dexie.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_00: That's for sure.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_04: I believe it started was a it's a celebration, I believe.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_04: It's it's just great to watch him do it.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_04: And when I found out that we traded for him, I thought that was one of the most, or if not the best, you know, trade the Bingos have made in a long time.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, just his accomplishments alone.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, his regular season stats for last year were 341 total tackles.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_04: Oh wow, 185 solo sacks, 156 assisted, five force fumbles, one interception, 15 pass deflections, and 37 yards longest enter interception.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_04: Nice.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_04: With an average yards per game, 53.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_04: And then just his accomplishment accomplishments otherwise, he's a three-time pro bowler, uh-huh, two-time second team all pro, a PFWA all-rookie team, and an A ACC defensive rookie of the year.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_04: Nice.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_04: So, I mean, he is someone with a lot of opportunities.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_04: I think he's gonna be a really good leader in the locker room as well.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_04: Along with Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, and uh Orlando Brown.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_00: Got a good.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: So, with that being said, the Bengals have this history of having very good talent and everything, but not going through.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_00: Being somebody that's been here, been in Cincinnati most of their life, most of their adult lives and everything, it's it's hard to for me to say to get behind the Bengals and everything.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the Bengals were, I think they were a subpar 500 last year.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um What are your expectations going into this NFL season?
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_04: This NFL season, I I I really hope we start strong, you know, get those first first couple wins under our belt.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, my main thing is, you know, we need to keep Burrow healthy for the season.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_04: That's gonna be our main key of keeping everything together.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_04: I think that's gonna be something we will really be able to do this year.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_04: As long as our defense, with it being stacked up, I think we're gonna have a good shot uh there.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_04: Um hoping to make it back to the to the playoffs and get back into the AFC championships and hopefully bring home a ring.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_00: What kind of ring?
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_04: Super boring.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_00: Super boring.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'm sorry.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: That's my fault.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't mean to laugh.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_00: But um, what is so in your definition, what is a successful season for the Bengals this year?
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_04: Successful season, I know it's it's not possible to win every game.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but I think if we can get into the playoffs at least, like I think uh minimum ten.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_00: Ten and um it'll be ten and seven, because we play seventeen.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_04: Ten and seven, or you know, uh better than that, that would be really good.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_04: And then obviously another start season for me is uh seeing everybody who started the season uh-huh through the entire season.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_04: Like I want to see, you know, Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, uh Orlando Brown.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_04: Don't forget about T.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_04: Higgins.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_04: T.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_04: Higgins, Dr.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_04: Lawrence.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_04: That's my guy.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_04: I w yeah, I want to see all of them throughout the entire season, you know.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_04: And I would even like to see Joe Flacco a few times because I mean he is a great backup quarterback to have with Burrow.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_00: So you so you're so this is a recap real quick.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: You think a successful season is everybody be healthy?
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_00: Are we are we talking playoffs?
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, first round.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_04: Uh first round.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_04: I think we're gonna get a win.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_04: Uh obviously it depends on who we play.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but you know, I will say, other than I say the last couple seasons, we've been uh pretty decent with getting through that first round.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_04: Uh moving on to the next.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_00: So second round, so are we moving uh uh in your opinion, is the Bengals moving to the second round?
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_04: I believe so.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_04: I think they I think with the all the moves they've made this year, and you know, I can't speak much of to what I've seen because they've only played one preseason game.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_04: You can't you can't make a judgment.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_04: No, my hope is, you know, I think we'll get we'll get to it and I think we'll uh definitely move on to at least the second round.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_00: Second round playoffs.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_00: So Keegan saying uh second round playoffs.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_00: I'm saying losing season.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not I'm not even playing.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not even playing.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_00: I I I I expect them to be like 6-11.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm gonna shoot low.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna shoot low because it's the expectation of me being a Bengals fan.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_00: Remind let me remind you, I've been a fan since the 90s and the Dave Shulas, the Bruce Coslett years, and all that stuff.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_00: I I just I don't I don't have it.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't have the optimism that Keegan has.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_00: And 6-11.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_00: That's about it.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_00: So with that being said, you think the Bengals a successful season will be the second round and everything, right?
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_00: Who do you got in the Super Bowl for this year?
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_04: Um for me personally, if I could do it, I would definitely have the Bengals there.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_00: This is this is this is your pick.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_00: This is this is if you at Vegas, you're getting ready to put a uh$1,000 on it.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_00: Thousand dollars, you saying who?
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna go Bengals.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_04: I would like to see a Bengals Ram rematch.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_04: I would.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_04: I would really like to see it because I think that was a very good Super Bowl.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_04: I think both teams played absolutely amazing.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_04: I would love to see that.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_00: 100% now let me let's see, let me ladies and gentlemen, let me tell you something.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_00: This is the Bengals history right here that you don't know.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_00: The Bengals have always played a California team in the Super Bowl.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: Niners twice.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and the Rams this past one.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_04: Uh 20, I think it's 21.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think it was 21.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: We were free from the house.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_00: So you heard it first.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_00: He's going Rams, Bengals part two, like like the Niners back in the 80s.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_00: That'll be so interesting.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_00: That really is.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_04: I think it would be a very good uh Super Bowl.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: Nah, I'm not gonna count out the Eagles, man.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_00: The Eagles still are you know, Jalen Hurt, he's a great quarterback and everything.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_00: If I'm gonna if I'm gonna throw my pick out, I think it's gonna be a dark horse.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_00: I I think I think the Bills and the 49ers are going to the Super Bowl.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_00: That's been one of the most wanted Super Bowl matchups in the early 90s, mid-90s, and everything, because of the Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas, and Steve Young and Jerry Rice years.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_00: I think it might happen.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_00: I I I am a big fan of uh Brock Purdy, the 49ers quarterback.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_00: I just think they have it.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_00: I just think it's gonna be the Bills and Bills and 49ers this year.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_04: So uh Bills 49ers are a good pick.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_04: You know, if boy for me, if I I'm rooting for teams, I have I have three top teams.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_04: You know, it's Bengals, Eagles, Bills.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I may not be able to tell you as much about the Eagles, Eagles, and Bills as I can the Bengals, but I love to see them play.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_04: Especially when, you know, the Bengals and the Bills put on a game against each other.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, they're really good.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_04: Right really good games.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, they they really give it their all for those.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then one of the things that that is interesting now, especially with the Bengals, is that their rivalry with the Chiefs.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean, but we gotta see if the Chiefs are even they might be coming down because I don't even did they even make the playoffs last year?
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if they did because I don't think they did.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think they did either.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_00: So we'll see what happens.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, the NFL is very it It's very interesting because you know we'll actually get to see the Chiefs in Paycore Stadium.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_04: Oh.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_04: That's uh I believe they are in Payor Stadium this year.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and I will hopefully be going to watch that because that's something I really want to see.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_00: All right, there you go.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_00: There you have it.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_00: And uh let's keep it moving.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the next topic will be what?
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_04: Uh we're gonna be talking about the uh new sp uh Spider-Man brand new brand new day movie.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_04: And we're gonna be uh giving our thoughts on the uh Doomsday trailer and kind of what we hope we see in it.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, first let's start off with Spider-Man brand new day.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: Uh this is the fourth Spider-Man film by uh Tom Holland.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_04: Fun fact, actually, Spider-Man uh Tom Holland is the only person who plays Spider-Man four actually more than four times.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_04: He has uh so he's the only Spider-Man to have four solo movies.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_04: Um Toby McGuire has three, and then Andrew Garfield has two.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_04: But then Tom Holt Holland has also been in Captain America Civil War where he made his uh debut.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_01: Correct.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_04: And then the Avengers and Infinity War Endgame, and uh now the upcoming Dunes Day and his latest movie.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_00: He's been Spider-Man for a very long time.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_00: So um let's go ahead and give me your ratings, uh one through ten.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: And this is what this is what I don't want to cut it up saying it was eight point four three.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_00: If you got an eight, eight point five nine.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so give me your Spider-Man rating one through ten.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_04: Um for this one, I will say it's a solid, I'd give it a seven.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_04: Seven?
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_00: Seven out of ten.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, so I'll give my my rating was I would give it a five point five.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_00: Go ahead and tell me what you liked about the movie and why'd you give it a seven?
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I loved having all the kind of new introductions.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_04: You had Punisher, bringing him into the Marvel cinematic universe.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_04: While we you do have his, you know, his show on Disney, Disney Plus and all that.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_04: Um bringing him in, I think just really kind of worked.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_04: It kind of gave him that, I think a per protective dad vibe almost over Spider-Man.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_04: Uh seeing that was really cool.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_04: And then, you know, we entered they introduced Gene Jing Gray.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, do we need to put a spoiler alert on there?
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_00: Or or it's been long enough if you ain't watched it.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's been long enough.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, if you if you ain't watched it, it's too late.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_04: Um yeah, I mean they introduced Gene Gray.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_04: We saw a bunch of different Spider-Man villains that we've never really seen.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_04: Uh movies, you know, we had Scorpion.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we seen Scorpion in the first one, remember?
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_00: At the end in the the prison scene.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, as like in his role.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_04: In his role as a villain.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_04: Scorpion, and then you had uh I think Tombstone.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_04: Tombstone was in there for a little bit, and there um there were a couple uh uh others that I cannot remember their names off the top of my head.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_04: Tarantula.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_04: Tarantula, and then Boomerang.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_04: Boomerang.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_04: Boomerang, yeah.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_04: Those were uh pretty interesting.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_04: I love kind of the the evolution of his character of what's going on.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_04: It's kind of you know, he just went through this, you know, trim basically it was kind of a traumatic event um through the last one, No Way Home.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_04: You know, he had to make everybody forget who Peter Par Peter Parker was, and everybody went to Spider-Man.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_04: You know, Aunt Aunt May, she died.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_04: She he has no one there with him, so it's kind of, you know, what what's he supposed to do?
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_04: You know, my big question after that movie was like, how is this gonna affect him being Spider-Man?
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_04: We kind of know now it's you know kind of enhanced the spider personality.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_04: You know, his emotions are not as intact as they were with or under control as they were with Ant May and having everybody with him.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_04: He was dealing with all this stress alone.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_04: Uh I'd say my favorite thing was him getting the organic webs.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_04: I r I really like that.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, he's the second one, second only to have the organic webs in in the movies.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_04: Because Andrew Garfield didn't have it.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_04: Nope.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, we never got that third movie that we were hoping to get with him.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_04: But yeah, that was kind of my things I liked about it.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_04: Things that I didn't like about it, I think they could have done more with a lot of the characters.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_04: I think they could have maybe done more with Scorpion, um, even Tombstone, I believe.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_04: You know, just having like Tombstone in there, I think it was 10 seconds or something.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_04: Somewhere around that.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_04: I think they should have done something more with it.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I think there's opportunities they missed with the Hulk and Bruce Banner.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_04: I think they kinda could have just expanded that more rather than having them in the one scene where they're at uh ESU, and then you know, the next scene he's fighting Hulk.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_04: Or even it would have been nice to see how she, you know, got to where she could take over Banner and all that.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_04: Um that would have been something cool.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_04: I think it would have been nice to see Happy Hogan if you didn't get to see him, you know.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_04: He may not know who Spider-Man is personally anymore, but he still knows Spider-Man through you know, Tony and all that.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_04: And I think it would have been nice to see him in there and maybe give him not the confidence as Peter, but he still could have guided him from being Spider-Man.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_04: And I thought it was cool uh little quote at the end where you know from what it looks like to us, Ned remembers who he is now.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_04: You think so?
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_04: I I think so, because when he did the handshake with Peter, he goes, Peter?
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe so.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um I I gave it a 5.5.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_00: I think the emotional build from the pre- last movie to this movie, that kind of made the movie move forward and everything.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: Gave us that like, you know, what Peter's going through and everything.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: The thing that that I that the problem it is for for me and everything is that I'm a big Spider-Man movie.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm a big Spider-Man fan and everything.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: I've been collecting com uh Spider-Man comic books since 19 uh 95.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_00: Not to date myself and everything, but that's what it is.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: It was things that was in the movie that that I had a problem with as a comic book person.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_00: You know, if you're if you're not a comic book person, you might have gave this thing higher.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: Some of the things that I liked again was the emotional aspect of Spider-Man, because Spider-Man is always conflicted with something going on in his life.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: That's what Spider-Man is.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: Spider-Man, that's what makes Spider-Man the everyday person.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like he has problems just like me, just like you do, and everything like that.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: That's what makes him relatable.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: Unlike Superman.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: But uh not a shot like Superman, but that's what it is.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: The things that like didn't work, like I didn't like one thing that I had a problem with was again, you're you're bringing all these major Spider-Man villains like Tombstone and you know Boomerang and Transceller, they're not big like Tombstone.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: I consider Tombstone a big um Spider-Man villain.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, even in the the like uh TV series, he was a big villain in a lot of those uh TV series, and just to see him kind of giving a 10-second introduction, it just I it didn't sit right.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_04: I was like, I think he deserved more.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: And the thing that always uh sets this version of Spider-Man apart from everybody else is that, in my opinion, he doesn't have Spider-Man villains.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like, right?
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't have his own Harry Osborne, he doesn't have his own Norman Osborne, he doesn't have his own central Spider-Man villains.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's a problem.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's a problem.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_04: The guy he is always fighting, always always has the you know, is the thought in the back of his head.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like you parade around for four m four plus movies, and arguably he's one of the best Spider-Man ever.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_00: But he doesn't have his own universe, he's always dealing with problems from Iron Man, Mysterio.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: Mysterio wasn't, in my opinion, wasn't his villain.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: He was the Iron Man villain, like hey, I'm mad at Iron Man for this, that, and the other.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, the Vulture.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: Again, that felt like more he's collecting parts just to keep his family, uh, you know, keep his family afloat, keep you know, money coming in, man.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_04: And which is kind of different from like the comics and the uh TV, because you know, in the comics he was uh a competitor with Norman Norman Osborne.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_04: And it was Norman Osborne who he hated.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_04: Wasn't Iron Man who he hated, it was Norman.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: Right, and that's the thing that that I think is faulty to Spider-Man, to this version of Spider-Man.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_00: Also, having Gene Gray as the main villain.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: That that that didn't work for me at all.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: Because once we found out that it's Gene Gray, it's like, wait a minute, Gene Gray, the X-Men, we know she's not the like a big bad guy.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: She might be going through something, but she's not the main uh antagonist, so to speak.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: So those are blown opportunities that I think failed this movie.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: But overall, it was still a good movie, and it's going to make its money because it's Spider-Man.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: But I think they could they could focus more on Spider-Man lore to make this thing better.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so let me ask you if if you had to, where would you put Tom Holland, Toby Maguire, and Andrew Garfield in the list?
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, man.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: So, okay, so I I am partial to Andrew Andrew Garfield.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: I thought his Spider-Man was great because the emotional impact of Gwen, what happened in him and Amazing Spider-Man 2, I just feel like he is to complete Peter Parker and Spider-Man.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: But Tom Holland does it really well too.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna give Andrew Garfield a an asterisk because he only got two.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: If he would have got a third one, depending on where they were going with that, because I think they were going towards a Sinister Six at the end of Spider-Man Amazing Spider-Man 2.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because they did the uh somebody was walking through the hallway and had like a whole bunch of things going on.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: I think.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_04: But yeah, they had like the Doc Ock arms and all that in there.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_00: And then again, he had the elements of Spider-Man's lore.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: He had a rhino, he had Electro, uh He had a lizard, yep, he had a Green Goblin in there.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think he was dying in that in that series.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Harry was dying.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_04: And then it had Harry Osborne.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm asking for.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna give the nod to Andrew Garfer.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: Andrew Garford won, Tom Holland two, and Toby Maguire three.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: And the reason why I'm giving Tony Maguire three is because his Peter Parker was great, his Spider-Man was trash.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: My book.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't think he was quirky enough to be Spider-Man in my book.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I'm I'm right there with you with uh Toby Maguire.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_04: You know, the way I look at it, you know, I think he was a great Peter Parker in all three of his movies.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_04: Uh but when I look at it from a Spider-Man perspective, and I, you know, you think comics and TV shows, you think a more of a quirky Spider-Man, a more funny Spider-Man, spinning out punts like Tom Holland and Andrew Garf.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah, Tom Andrew Garf, Toby Maguire, he would be be at my three.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_04: Then I would have I'm gonna I'm gonna give it to Tom Holland.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_04: I think he does a great Peter Parker and a great Spider-Man.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_04: He does.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_04: You know, finding that actor that can do both is just amazing.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_04: It's like finding another um but yeah, finding somebody who played both roles is like finding, you know, um Robert Downey Jr.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_04: playing Iron Man.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_04: Um that's really a really good casting.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_04: And then Andrew Garfield's my number one.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_04: He's my number one because I think he had the best.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: So Andrew's there?
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: I thought oh, so Andrew Garfield's your number one?
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_04: Awesome.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_04: So Tom Holland's gonna be my number two.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, but Andrew Garfield's my number one because I just absolutely loved his Spider-Man.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I wasn't a huge fan of Peter Parker.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_04: I think he didn't have the emotion there, but I just I love his Spider-Man the best.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_04: I think the emotion and the fighting and all that he put in that was in it was just really good.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_04: So that that would be my my list.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um my question to you is what's next for Spider-Man?
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm not talking about what happens in um Doomsday, Spider-Man, Secret Wars.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: We're talking specifically Spider-Man.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: What is the next Spider-Man about?
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_04: I I think they're gonna be introducing a new one.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so you I think they're gonna, you know, eventually what leads up to is you know, Peter Parker's not gonna, you know, be able to be Spider-Man forever.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_04: I think we're gonna be getting introduced to like a Miles Morales somewhere along the line.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_04: Um, if they do the do a fourth movie or a fifth movie, I like to see him in it, kind of, you know, Peter taking him under his wing like to Tony did to him.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_04: And, you know, teaching him how to be the hero he he's meant to be.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's not fair.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's fair.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: A Miles Morales sequel for Spider-Man, let's just call it Spider-Man 5.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever it may be.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_00: I got one, I got one scenario that I've been thinking about.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: I still think it'll be a Spider-Man Peter Parker based film, but I think they're gonna they're gonna go heavier into the mutants.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_00: They're gonna do a a live-action version of Spider-Man and his amazing friends.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_00: So therefore you have Iceman, and then you have Firestar.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: And then Iceman will still be a mutant.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: You'll be like, well, we know what you did to Dream, and you got those chips now, so he's like watching Peter.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's a another big thing.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_04: The chips he made, you know, that's like a big like, you know, they're gonna if they get a hold of that tech, they're gonna control, you know, everything.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and this is this is part of the whole X-Men lore of uh I think uh I'm not I'm not big on my X-Men lore.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: I think Oliver Trask was the one that made the collars for all the mutants.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think it was Oliver Trask.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_04: I believe I I think you're right.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: With that leading to Doomsday, what do you think is gonna happen in Doomsday?
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_04: I think we're gonna see a lot of returning characters.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_04: You know, we already got Thor, um Shuri, and and Baku, and then you got the Fantastic Four coming back.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I think that's gonna be some good introductions, especially you know, getting to meet those people for the first time.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_04: Like Spider Man in the cinematic verse, he's never met a Fantastic Four, he's never met a um a Doctor Doom or anything like that.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_04: I think that's gonna be uh very interesting.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_04: I know.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_04: We're gonna see maybe this maybe it could be I think it's Steve Rogers back as Captain America.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_04: Um I'll go into that a little bit uh more here in a second.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_04: Um and then you know I'm hoping to see some type of Iron Man, whether it's you know Really?
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, whether it's like his Tony's daughter.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I I I believe sh I believe she is going to be old enough to where she has a suit.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm sure he probably left her a suit to to be able to wear.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_04: I mean she could always wear her mom's.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_00: That's interesting you bring up the Iron Man thing, because I because with uh Robert Down G playing Doctor Doom, I didn't think they would touch Iron Man at all.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: I still don't think they will.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: But my question is, since you brought up Cap, when we last saw Cap at Endgame, he was an old man.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: Why is he young now?
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's the that's kind of interesting.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_04: You know, my thought is, you know, with them pulling everybody from, you know, the different universes and stuff, maybe they could have you know they still have access to the time travel tech if they need it.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe somebody went back and got him for his help or uh anything.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_04: And then, you know, my other thought is you know, maybe it's not Captain America.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe it's Captain Hydra.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: Well, maybe.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's that's another comic book reference right there.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe he's Captain Hydra.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_04: You know, he could be uh working with Doctor Doom, getting on their good side, and then you know, they're gonna go for in for that final fight, and when you think Doom's done and beat, he hits you with the shield from behind.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_04: But here's my thing, here's my thing.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_04: Listen he in the in the trailer, he holds Mjolnir.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_04: But and I've uh correct me if I'm wrong, I believe Captain Hydra has been able to trick trick Mjolnir into thinking he is Captain America and letting him hold him.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_04: I believe so.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_04: I I I've heard it somewhere, uh-huh, but I'm not 100% sure so that's kind of my thing about seeing.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_04: Well, I think it is cat because you know he held Mjolnir, so but you know, when I seen that, I was like, you know, it's a good point.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: And the one thing that I always when it comes to Mionir and all that, it's not about it's never been about good or evil.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's about who's worthy.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: And would an evil cat be worthy to hold Mionir?
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's the that's the question I'm having.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um so we'll see.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: We'll we will see about that.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, next topic.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um we hitting we hitting wrestling.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_00: Is that where we're going?
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yep, wrestling.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_04: Um we're gonna hit the hit hit the uh my big three.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_04: I think most people's big three.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_04: We're gonna hit Monday Night Raw.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_04: NXT, and uh Friday Night SmackDown.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_04: Um we'll start off, you know, Monday Night Raw.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_04: You got your your main players, you got your Roman Reigns, uh, you got your uh Braun Breakers, uh Solo Sequoas, um you get you got all them, uh some good people in that brand.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_04: Um you know, not last week, but the week before, you know, a big thing they're gonna be focused on is they introduced a kind of like a bracket tournament triple A.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, you know, they have the uh Louchidors from Triple A, uh Monday Night Raw and SmackDown can be in a bracket tournament to face Roman Reigns on a Monday night raw in Mexico City.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_01: Oh nice.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, that kicked off Monday with uh Pinna versus Later Laredo Kid.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_04: Um what's your thoughts on Pinna?
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: Well, see, I again, like you you're a big WWE guy, and I'm I'm like a mid-WWE guy.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_00: I I love AEW right now.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: When I saw Penta and AEW, I thought, you know, great and everything.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: And then he came to uh WWE and everything, and um I like Pinta.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_00: I just don't think he I think I actually think he might be uh he might have topped out.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think he is a world heavyweight champion, especially in WWE, because WWE has a stereotypical build for a champion and everything.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_00: I just don't I I mean I like him.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: I like his intro, I like his uh his demeanor, his personality, and everything.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_00: But when he had the Intercontinental Championship, I think that might be a peak for him.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um we'll see what happens in this tournament because he did win his match, correct?
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, he did.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_04: He did.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_04: So he's he's moving on to the next uh round Monday, I believe.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_04: Okay I think it's gonna be his next match.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not sure he gets two.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_04: Here's a question.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_04: Do you think he you think he's tapped out at intercontinental?
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_04: Now do you think he is going to be do more runs with his brother, Ray Phoenix?
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_04: Just as tag team?
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_04: The tag team titles?
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: They're not they didn't they have not entertained that at all.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: And they haven't really touched in WWE, so I don't even think they're even paying attention to that.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_00: I don't.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_04: Um my next thing is they're doing this whole thing with the vision.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_04: You know, the vision, you know, it started out strong.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_04: It really did.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_04: You know, you had um Seth Rollins, Paul Heyman, Braun Breaker, um Austin Theory, and and um Logan Paul.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_04: Logan Paul and Bronson Reed.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_04: Um wow, I forgot about Bronson Reed.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I think it started off really good, you know, when that first injury Seth had with him.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_04: I think it kind of that's when it kind of started to deal real.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_04: Um and you know, then Seth came back, he got the title again, and a couple, you know, a couple weeks later, he got hurt again.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, they they take him out of the group and they they move on.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_04: But then this is when the big blow came in.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_04: Bronson Reed and Braun Breaker both got hurt in row.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_04: So it was down to just to Logan Paul and Austin.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_04: And not knocking Logan Paul and Austin Theory.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_04: They are amazing wrestlers.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, I really gotta give it props to uh Logan Paul, you know, born born Ohio kid.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_04: Um he really you know shoved it in a lot of people's faces.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_04: Like, if you you think I can't do this, I'm going to go and do this.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_04: And he has and he's stacked accomplishments.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_04: Tacking champion, uh US champion, you know.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_04: I could see I could see him being a future, you know, you know, WWE champion, you know, maybe not a world champion, but he's still gonna be a champion in his right.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_04: And I I think that's something for him in the future.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_04: And then Austin Theory, you know, um from where he started in NXT to where he is now, I think he's had a lot of improvement.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_04: And he's got this whole thing going on right now with Maxine Dupree.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_04: So that's gonna be interesting to see where that goes.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_04: And then, you know, you know, moving on to this is uh this is kind of my hot topic, is Judgment Day.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I I don't think there's anything left with it.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_04: Nope.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_04: You know, yeah, you got your Liv Morgan, you got your Raquel uh Rodriguez, right, and you got your Roxanne Perez, and you got your Dom and JD JD McDonough, but I just don't think there's anything left for the group.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_04: I completely agree with you.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_04: I think they just need to go separate ways.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_04: You know, Dom's doing his thing down AAA as the mega champion.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_04: Liz got her thing going on and as women's world champion, and you got you know Raquel now newly uh women's intercontinental champion.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_04: Uh so I think it's just time for them to go their separate ways.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and the th here's a thing that that let me know that the judgment day is done.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_00: Didn't Don Mysterio have a match at SummerSlam?
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he did.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: He did.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: He lost to I think he lost to Danhausen, right?
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_00: He did.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_04: He lost to Paul Mount.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_04: You can't lose to the joke character.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_00: You can't lose to the joke character.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_00: You can't.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_00: And be cool with it.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: Not even like, listen, I think when that happens, that's the nail in the coffin for either you as a wrestler or altogether just the gimmick in itself.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_00: You can't lose to Danhausen when I what is this?
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_00: What is this what is this finisher?
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_00: Why is he carrying human teeth?
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, granted, he's funny.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_00: I love funny characters.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_00: Doigt the clown, Ron the Truth Killings, Danhausen, Santino Morella.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_00: Santino Morella, great characters, and but I'll say um Morella, he can wrestle.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_04: He can.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_00: But I don't Ron Killings, he can wrestle too.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_00: But Danhausen, you can't do that.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_04: But I mean, look what they did with Santi Morell when they brought him in.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_04: Who was his first match ever in WWE?
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_04: I want to say he was in a match with Bobby Lashley, was he not?
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, his first opponent ever, they picked him out of the crowd.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_04: This is how they set it up against Doomonga for the intercontinental title.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_04: And guess what?
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_04: He won?
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_04: He won.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_04: Now, to give credit, there was interference by Bobby Lashley.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_04: Joe character.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_04: Who'd he beat?
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_04: He beat one of the you know top players at the time.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_04: He beat U Manga.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, true.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_00: That is true.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, the uh time has changed since then, and we've seen Danhausen really not do much other wrestling, much wrestling since he's been here.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_00: He's funny, great character, funny, hilarious, everything.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_00: You losing to Danhausen is is in my opinion, that's a nail on the court.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, too.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_04: Trying to give it uh getting into Lim's illusion a little bit.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_04: You know, you got you know Liv Morgan, she's coming in, coming in, she's got some tough opponents.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_04: You got a returning Becky Lynch and returning former women's world champion Stephanie Vacier.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_04: You know, they're both back, they're both gunning for her.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_04: So that's gonna be very interesting to see what happened what's gonna go on.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_04: Um kind of who do you think who do you think uh is gonna get the next shot?
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_04: Is it gonna be Becky or is it gonna be Stephanie?
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_04: Or could it be both?
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, the safe bet has always been Becky Lynch, you know what I'm saying?
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_00: But um, you know, you you don't know with WWE, but I mean Stephanie Vicari, she's she's great too.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, if if I was if I was in the back doing the writing, I'll always go with Becky Lynch.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_00: If I can't do Becky Lynch, I would do Bailey.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_00: And real quick, let's touch on Bailey real quick.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_00: What's going on with her?
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like, she has not been she's had a minor stint in AAA, but that was very brief.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_00: What are they doing with her?
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_04: You know, there's a lot of speculation.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_04: She would not be wanting to renew her contract, she'd be one going somewhere else.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, she could finish a contract out with WDE, WWE, and she could, you know, move to AW and go down there with Mercedes Monet.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_04: You know, who knows what uh what's gonna go on with her.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_04: Um here's something.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_04: Just uh a little off topic from the women's scene, but something I I I was thinking about.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_04: What is going on with Johnny Gargano?
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_04: I think he he has been I I seen this a couple days ago.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_04: He has been laying on a table more than he has ever uh more than any title run he has ever had.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_00: And you know what?
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_00: It's because he missed chompin.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, what how else can you explain it?
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yep it's just he's not doing nothing, they're not using him creative creatively.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_00: So he's just I mean, how do you even be like, yeah, uh on this one, I'm gonna just lay on this cart.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_00: And that's it.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_00: So no, but um the main the main attraction for WWE has been the main attraction for the past six, seven years.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_00: This is we're doing the whole bloodline thing.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: So, real quick, what is your opinion on the bloodline this six, seven year run?
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_00: Because when realistically, there has not been a run like this in my in my opinion ever.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_00: There's never been a run where maybe the horseman, but I mean that was more of a stable, but to have this run for the bloodline, it's been going on for six, seven years.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: What what is your opinion on that?
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I think for the first oh, you know, three, four years of it, you know, when we first get first getting going, I think it was great.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_04: Um I think you know, it was the top of the game.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_04: You had all these um top players who, you know, you were trying to do things with and wasn't working out for you or for them, but then you know, you're like, well family.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_04: Let's do let's do something with that.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_04: You know, when they what when Robin Reigns finally turned in, you know, mid-COVID era, when you know there's no one in the stadiums, he won that Universal Championship.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_04: And then you know he got Paul Heyman.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_04: That's when things started kicking off.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_04: And then you had Jimmy, I believe it was Jimmy Uso who ended up joining him first.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, because he was doing the whole feud with Jay Uso.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_04: Then Jay Jay came in, and then you had Solo come in, and then you know the honorary oos, Sami Zayn.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think that's a good time.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_04: That was peak bloodline.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_04: That was.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_04: But then when Roman lost the tile, that's when it started going down.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_04: You had Solo trying to, you know, they had Solo trying to be the tribal chief, do his own thing, it wasn't really working out, and then you moved to, you know, Solo and MFTs, that didn't really work out.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and then now they're back with, you know, Roman and Jimmy and Jay.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, and now um Jacob fought too doing the whole thing.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_04: I just I think it's it's like when you eat too much of your favorite food and then you you slowly start to not like it anymore.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_04: It's like it's starting to be bland.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_04: That's that's fair stuff.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_04: Essentially.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_04: I think they could be going somewhere with it.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_04: You know, who knows?
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_04: You never know.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_04: Like you said, with WTB, you never know.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, I think, but in my opinion, I think Solo Sokoa, I think him in a singles run is a lot better than him in any group.
• 35:07
  unknown: Yeah.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_04: Because I love what they're doing with him right now.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's absolutely it's hilarious.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_00: Pew pew.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's absolutely hilarious.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: You you you should watch the SummerSlam where he uh you know he told her to wind it do it again, wind it up, whatever.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_00: And uh the look the facial expression on uh Jay Uso is absolutely hilarious.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_00: That he was like genuinely hurt the whole everybody in the stands was doing the whole you know thing and uh thing that he did.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_00: It was absolutely hilarious.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_00: Solo Sokoa's run right now is absolute peak.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I think, and here's my prediction for next Monday, I think he lost on purpose to attack Roman Reigns.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_00: Him, LA Knight, and I don't even think they said Royce Keys is injured.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think he's injured at all.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_00: I think they're plotting something to hit Roman, hit him hard, and I think that's if that was if I was back there writing, that's how I would write it.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_00: I would have him with Solos like, yeah, I lost to get close to you, and set him up for LA Knight to get him, set him up for Royce Keyes to get him, to hit the bloodline, and all that stuff.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_00: Because right now, I don't think Roman has an angle right now.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_00: He's free and he's not really like no, he has he has no major rivals right now.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I believe.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I could see in the future it going to be possibly Oba Femi.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think they're gonna kind of push out because he Oba Femi didn't win King of the Rings, so he has that title shot he can get.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_04: But it's like at SummerSlam, he waited uh because he was right.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_04: Like he said itself, like if I take the time out to SummerSlam, you're just gonna come and screw me.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_04: Uh talking to Brock Lesnar.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_04: He's like, he's absolutely right.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_04: But now that you know Brock Lesnar is done, um, and you know, I I believe he made it made it official.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he's official on Pat McPhee's exact uh podcast.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_04: He said, I'm done, you know, Oba, Oba's the future, I'm the past.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_04: And Brock Lesnar, you know, he's been a staple of the business for years, just like John Cena was.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_04: When he gave, you know, the first time he gave his blessing was to Cody.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_04: When Cody beat him.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think that was also at SummerSlam.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_04: I remember that.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_04: And then now now Oba.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_04: Um Oba, you know, he's a future multi-time champion.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, if they somehow fumbled with that, you know, that that's a a waste of talent.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_04: Exactly, exactly.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_04: Because he is he is amazing.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and he is he is definitely going to be world champion.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_04: You know, if he doesn't win it with his King of the Ring, I think he's gonna be in the main Open in WrestleMania.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's a good put an asterisk on that so we need to predict our uh WrestleMania cars.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_04: It could be Oba Femi Roman Reigns.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_00: Oh wow.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_04: I really think it could be.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_04: I think that would be a great match.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_04: Realistically, who else could you see Oba Femi wrestling for that title?
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_04: Seth Seth Rollins if he came back from injury in time, um maybe Braun Breaker if he won the title.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_04: But I mean, could you really see them letting Breaker take the title off Roman?
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_04: I don't think I could right now.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_04: No, I don't know.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_04: I think if anything, he you know, maybe eventually he'd take it off Oba.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_04: I could see that happening.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_04: I think if anybody takes it off Roman, it's gonna be Oba.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_00: I mean that that's that's a that's a great handoff for Roman Reigns and everything.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, uh we will um definitely um look forward to that.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um you got some NXT notes you want to hand out?
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_04: I do.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_04: Um couple different things happened.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_04: You know, you had uh we'll start with like Cam Hendricks and Mason Rook.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_04: They had a bit of a feud match going on going on uh past couple weeks, you know, I think Cam cost I believe Cam cost Mason a title shot.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_04: So that's kind of well, you know, it's kicking off and everything, and you know, they had their match and Cam Hendrick picked up the win, but I mean, wasn't that he picked it up fair?
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_04: You know, you know, he he he threw that turnbuckle belt turnbuckle pad and ran him ran him right into the in there and took the win.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_04: Uh NXT Women's North America Championship, uh Zarya versus uh Rincent Clair.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_04: Zarya retained Rincent Clair, I believe she said something along the lines of unifying the North American title in the speed championship.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, I believe.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_04: Kind of doing that, kind of get a another match with her.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_04: And my favorite match of all, it was the Cruz Montoya versus Grayson Waller, number one contender match.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_00: Now, that's just for wrestling fans, TNA fans, that is Mike Santana, right?
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_04: It is, it is Mike Santana.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_04: That was you know my highlight of it.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_04: Cruz Montana or Mike Santana.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he is a great wrestler.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he is.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_04: You know, he did a lot of tag team career in his past.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_04: He didn't have a lot of uh singles, but you know, when he left AEW and went back to TNA, that's when his like singles career really kicked off.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_04: You know, he was a two or three-time TNA world champion, I think.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, now he's in NXT and he's going for that NXT title, and then you have Grayson Waller coming back.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_04: I think Grayson is a better fit in NXT than uh Monday Night Rawl.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_04: Just because I think he's kind of locker room leader in NXT.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_04: I think he's gonna have that personality there.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_04: But and then you know, to upset for both of them because we had you know a special guest enter the ring and cost the match for both of them, and you know, this was my favorite part.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_04: We're talking about bloodline Zillophot 2 uh makes his uh debut and makes his name known to the not only Cruz Montoya and Grayson Waller, but the NXT champion as well.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the whole uh the whole NXT brand itself.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_00: Uh he came in there, did a Samoan drop on what's Santana, I believe, and uh cost him the match.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yep, and then did he did uh I believe Frog Splash on both of them.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_00: Oh really?
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, both of them.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_04: What are your thoughts of him going to NXT and not being in the main roster?
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_00: No, I think it it's perfect for him.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_00: Anybody like here's the thing with people that come to WWE now.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um and I'm looking at the Ricky Saint.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_00: Ethan Page.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Ethan Page, all that stuff.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_00: They needed to learn the WWE WWE way of wrestling and everything like that.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_00: So I think it's perfectly fine for him to be in NXT, build his character up, just like like Sola Skoa did.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_00: When he was in NXT, he built himself up to be a good person on SmackDown, and now he's kicking butt on Raw and everything.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_04: He was led to be in NXT, and when they first brought him up, he was led to be the enforcer, the enforcer of the bloodline, basically an enforcer of NXT.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, it's perfect for them to brand get these people up, build them up and everything, and then let them go to Raw, SmackDown, everything.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_00: But not everybody does, you know.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, Cody Rose wasn't he wasn't gonna go to NXT.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_00: You got Royce Keys, who I'm surprised didn't go through NXT.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um you had um Jacob 2.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_00: Jacob 2.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_04: AJ Styles.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_04: And the good thing about AJ Styles, you know, he said I he said this in the interview, I think it was with Chris Van Vlee.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_04: He wishes he would have gone through NXT.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_00: Who?
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_04: AJ Styles.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_04: Really?
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_04: Because he said you know, he said he thought he knew everything about wrestling.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_04: But then when he got WWE and I think he said he it was triple H talk, he's like, dude, I don't know anything.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_04: He's like, it it's it's a uh a learning curve, I I believe he said somewhere alongside that.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_04: It was like he's like, NXT is like this is this this is where you're gonna learn the WWE way, this is where you're gonna learn what to do.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_04: He's like, but yeah, that's like and you know, that's a big props for NXT, you know, that's what they're built on, molding the future.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_04: Especially, you know, you got Shawn Michaels down there now, leading the charge, you know, the heartbreak kid himself, who has had you know multiple title runs, you know, been in some amazing groups, yeah, and had some just five-star matches.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I believe people should go through NXT unless you're there's no way.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_00: There's no way.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_04: Unless you're a Chris Jericho, John Cena, uh.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_00: Well, actually John Cena, well, F it was what, F FCW for the championship wrestling then?
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_00: Or oh no, he went through OVW, Ohio Valley Wrestling.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_00: Him, Batista, Rainy Horton, uh Brock, Shelton Benjamin, all of them, they went through OVW.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_00: Lastly, we're gonna hit uh SmackDown real quick.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_00: We have CM Punk as the champion and uh Kevin Owens.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_00: Kevin Owens is coming in just basically saying, I don't like you, and nobody else likes you, and all that stuff.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_00: What is your feeling on SmackDown uh in general?
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I think it's good.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_04: I think it's uh uh a great second show occupying those weeks.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_04: You got the Monday and Tuesdays, and then you got the Fridays.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_04: And they got those uh really good show times.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_04: I think there are some great there is some great talent on both the men's and women's side uh on SmackDown.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_04: Like you said, you got CM Punk as champion, you know, you got the Nilly Crown, uh Chelsea Green as women's world champion.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_04: We'll touch on something with that here in a little bit.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_04: Um you got Gunther on SmackDown now, um, Randy Orton Cody, uh returning Kevin Owens, and Kevin Owens, man, he is a great, great performer.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_04: And for a long time, you didn't know if he was coming back.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, especially if you come back from a neck injury.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_04: He said it so he was like, I didn't know if I was coming back.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, to see him return at SummerSlam, come out there, win the number one contenders match was just amazing.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_00: What's funny, what's always funny between uh Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn is like, yeah, I missed you, and then they're gonna punch each other.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like, dude.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like, dude, y'all about to be best friends.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_04: The definition of frenemies is Kevin Owens and Sammy Zayn.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um, real quick, just while we're tuck while we're talking on Sammy Zayn, how do you feel about his brief title run?
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_00: Short.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_00: It was terrible.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was horrible.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_04: One title offense and he loses it.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_00: I I do like to hold I'm the last good guy.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_00: I guess his what's his stick, so to speak.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_00: His stick.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_00: Because I believe that's true.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_00: I believe that's very accurate with him like being that guy.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_04: But I mean you have I think he's a better good guy than he is a bad guy.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_04: Well, uh has Sammy Zayn ever been a bad guy?
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_04: Technically, yes.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_04: What?
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_04: So you could they consider his bloodline run.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_04: That was a that was a bad guy.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_04: No and then when he it was, I believe, one of his intercontinental runs.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_04: I think it was.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_00: I cannot recall a time when Sami Zayn has been a bad guy.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like Cody Rhodes has never turned heel.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, who else?
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_00: Cody Rhodes was a heel.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_00: In WWE?
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_00: Before he left.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, come on now.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_00: We're talking about not Stardust.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_00: No, you're talking about Dash and Cody Rhodes.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_00: No, what?
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_00: He was about Evolution.
• 45:25
  unknown: Okay.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, okay, great.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_04: He had evolution.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_04: But I'm talking about Dash and Cody Rhodes.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_04: It's confirmed.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_04: He's confirmed himself.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_04: He had a Stardust.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_04: But he has been a heel.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_04: Now recently, no, he has not been a heel.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_04: He's not turned heel.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_00: Since since he came back as the well um American Nightmare.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_00: No, he's been nothing but but um what do you call it?
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_00: Face?
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_04: Face this whole time.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, he's not out I I believe he's he wasn't even the original nightmare.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_01: What do you mean by that?
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_04: I I I think I believe I read it somewhere.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_04: Um I'll double check this and you know I'll we'll update it in the next episode just briefly.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_04: I believe his brother actually had the name really uh first, but he never went anywhere with it.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_04: Um like I said, that's something I'll double check, kind of uh touch up a little bit uh next week.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_04: But yeah, he I don't think he was even the original nightmare.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_00: That's fair.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's fair.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_00: I thought we'll have to check that.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_00: Because maybe it was he because he did have a run in WCW.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_00: Dust Dustin Rhodes.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_04: Dustin Rhodes.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_04: And that kind of sounds right.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_04: The American Nightmare, Dustin Rhodes.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean it it fits.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_00: That's birth at plays perfectly on the dream was American Dream, you know, their father and everything.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_04: And then, you know, we had Chelsea Green, she got hurt the week before.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_00: And you know a big old weld on her eye, too.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_04: She did.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if that was makeup or not.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_04: It was Nick Alis, and he asked her to relinquish the title, and it kind of let her let that, you know, she gave it up.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_04: You know, it was like you didn't want to see her give it up.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_04: Because if you think anybody deserves a title, she deserved a title.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_04: That's true.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_04: And, you know, I think it was good what they did with the you know what, they had Nick Allah like, you know what?
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_04: A GM, I'm or basically I may have to take this title, but as a human being, I'm not going to.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_04: She gives him 30 days, she gave he gave her 30 days to get medically cleared so she can defend her title.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_04: But here's the thing with that 30 days.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_04: When was the last time Liv Morgan defended her title?
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, what was it?
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_00: Ray Ripley, uh Rhea Ripley her for the longest time and didn't defend?
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_04: It's like 40 plus days.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_04: Ray was Rhea was her.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_04: When was the last time Liv defended her title?
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_04: Shoot, when was the last time Romans defended the title?
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_00: Granted, he did it at SummerSlam, but That was SummerSlam.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't, I don't think he defends every 30 either.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_04: No, so like you get these, you know, they come back saying, yeah, I'm gonna be here every week.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna defend this title all the time.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_04: The only people I have seen consistently defend their titles Cody Rhodes, CM Punk, Seth Rollins, your Mid-Carters, the Intercontinental Championship U.S.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_04: championship.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's part of the deal.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_00: You get the you get the intercontinental championship, yeah.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_00: You're defending next week on raw.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_04: Those are the only people you see defending their titles on a weekly or monthly basis.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody else, it's 30, 40, 50 days plus.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's that is very true.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_00: That is very, very true.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_00: We also had Gunther come in and beat the mess out of Matt Cardona.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he interrupted Matt's wife, Chelsea, and their little thing, saying some stuff to her that we shouldn't be saying.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_04: You know, Matt came out there, he was like, let him know, like, hey, don't talk about my wife like that.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, as they're leaving the ring, he basically called her a good dog, I believe, or somewhere along the line of that.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_04: And that's like that's what Matt flipped and turned around and just started wailing on him.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_04: I think he uh ended up kicking Gunther out of the ring with it.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_04: And then Nick was like, alright, impromptu match, here you go.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_04: Gunther being Gunther, you know, they went at it, punishes him, then takes him down.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_04: That's it.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_00: When those things happen, it it I think it makes Gunther the head heel of SmackDown and everything.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's cool to have good guy versus good guy and everything, but we need that good heel, and I think Gunther is it is a very good heel.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I and I also believe that uh that SmackDown has a lot of baby faces and everything.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's a lot of heels.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like you got Finn, Finn Balor is a good guy.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_00: Your opinion on Sami Zayn, he's still a good guy in my book.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_00: Kevin Owens ain't necessarily a bad guy, but he ain't a good guy.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_04: He's kind of an in betweener.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_04: In-betweener.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_00: Then you got CM Punk, which is a good guy.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_00: Cody Rhodes, good guy, good guy.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_04: So I mean Randy Orton's come back as a bad guy.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_04: Baron Corbin.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_04: Whatever.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_04: He's not a huge heel, but he's a heel.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_04: Fatal influence, they're heels on the women's side.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_04: You know, speaking of which, you know, JC Jane just won the Intercontinental title.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_04: Or not Intercontinental, uh, United States Championship of Tiffany Stratton.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_00: That's smackdown in a nutshell.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_04: Pretty much.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I think they end things with a face-to-face up punk and Romans.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_04: This is what was funny to me.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_04: Oh fun.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_04: Uh Punk and Owens.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay, okay.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_04: You know, this is this is a funny thing to me.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_04: I I I was watching the uh whole thing, and the funniest thing was with kept Kevin Owens.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_04: You know, they were up and close to talking.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_04: He he goes he stopped talking and goes, I gotta get away from your breast stinks.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, I was so funny.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_04: And that shows Kevin Owen can have that, you know, hilarious side to him too.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_04: So uh but yeah, that's pretty much how they ended it.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_04: Um Sami Zayn and Cody Rhodes were supposed to have a match, but that got interrupted by Rainey Orton.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_04: Of course.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_04: Before Sammy even got out there.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's the last good guy guy.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_00: The last good guy never gets his never gets his thing.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_04: And I believe that ended up actually setting up a Cody Rhodes-Rainey Orton match at Saturday Night Meetament.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's the next that's the next like P.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_00: L.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_00: E.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_00: correct?
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_04: Before I think the next big PLE, I believe, is uh Money in the Bank.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the major ones in New Orleans.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_00: We'll see.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_00: We'll see what happens with that.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, uh wrestling's been up and down, like, you know, especially especially with uh, you know, AJ AJ Styles retired this year.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_00: He did.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, we had we had a up and down.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_04: That was surprising to see.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I thought he could have done one more year or anything.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_04: But you know.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_04: I think he'll be back.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_04: Really?
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_04: Eventually.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_04: Now here's Neil Noha, I think he's gonna be back.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_04: Because he said it himself.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_04: His son.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, exactly.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_04: And I could see his son being a featured WWE superstar.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_04: Now it's not gonna be anytime soon because he's freshly starting, but I definitely think he's gonna, you know, bring that styles name back into weekly pro wrestling.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_00: You can't go wrong with A.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think AJ Styles on my list is one of the top wrestlers of all time.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_04: He's been everywhere.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_04: New Japan, TNA, um, and now WWE.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_04: But I mean, he's an all-around superstar.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_04: When you when I mean when a lot of people think wrestling, you know, they say, you know, John Cena, Brock Lesnar, The Rock, and you know, AJ Styles is on that list.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, hands down.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we'll have to save that for next week.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna have to do our top ten for next week.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_00: That being said, do you have anything else that you want to hit on in the first episode?
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_00: Uh hit the little music in to let you know that we're leaving the show.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, good show.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_00: Good show.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_00: We we we went for a good hour, and yeah, and you know, once you keep talking for so long, it becomes natural to you.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we are the host of the MK Podcast.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I'm Michael Gillespie.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_00: I'm Kegan Robinson.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, we'll talk to you guys later.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_00: Peace.