Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Sharon Zollner: ANZ Chief Economist ahead of first OCR announcement since Iran war began
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- 0:00Speaker 1: So first OCR decision today post operation epic fury. This
- 0:04Speaker 1: is from the rbn Z economists. Reckon they'll hold steady
- 0:06Speaker 1: at two point twenty five percent. Sharon zolma A and
- 0:09Speaker 1: Z Chief economs with me this morning. Sharon, good morning,
- 0:12Speaker 1: good morning. So crouch and hold today.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Yeah, what else are you going to do? Yeah? Yeah,
- 0:18Speaker 2: it's still actually ambiguous how Mountroy policy should respond to this.
- 0:22Speaker 2: It's clearly bad, but it's also clearly inflationary, bad for growth.
- 0:26Speaker 2: There is no right answer for Mountry policy really in
- 0:30Speaker 2: the sort of scenario I sort of do no additional
- 0:33Speaker 2: harm is kind of the best you can hope for.
- 0:36Speaker 2: So until it's clear whether it's going to require higher
- 0:39Speaker 2: interest rates to head off persistent inflation or not, absolutely
- 0:44Speaker 2: the best thing for the Reserve Bank to do is
- 0:46Speaker 2: just stay, wait and see mode.
- 0:48Speaker 1: The journist asking about seven percent inflation, I'm assuming they're
- 0:52Speaker 1: picking that number because that's how high we got, actually
- 0:55Speaker 1: north of seven percent after the COVID years. But is
- 0:59Speaker 1: there any reason to think it will go that high?
- 1:03Speaker 2: No? Well, I mean not at this point here and
- 1:06Speaker 2: now today, ask us again tomorrow. You know, we're in
- 1:08Speaker 2: that kind of world. We made assumptions just to put
- 1:12Speaker 2: something in our updated forecasts, and we came up with
- 1:16Speaker 2: the number. But if you assume the oil price peaks
- 1:18Speaker 2: at one hundred and gradually declines from here, that gives
- 1:20Speaker 2: you something like three point six. Now, obviously that's looking
- 1:23Speaker 2: at that hierarque. At this point, it's looking like the
- 1:26Speaker 2: oil price will be higher for longer. We have trumped
- 1:31Speaker 2: sending posts that there's going to be civilizational destruction today,
- 1:35Speaker 2: So I mean that they're oft in terms of your
- 1:37Speaker 2: forecasting sees your inflation at that point. So it's really
- 1:41Speaker 2: absolutely a matter of wait and see. But for the
- 1:44Speaker 2: Reserve Bank, it's really not the point how high inflation goes.
- 1:48Speaker 2: It's how high it stays, how quickly it comes down,
- 1:51Speaker 2: whether it becomes a medium term problem, or whether people
- 1:55Speaker 2: just accept it that it's a one off shift in
- 1:57Speaker 2: the price level and that things will get back normal.
- 2:00Speaker 2: That's the key question from where they sit.
- 2:02Speaker 1: And are we somewhat insulated by the fact we haven't
- 2:05Speaker 1: been doing as well over the last few years as
- 2:06Speaker 1: other countries have been.
- 2:09Speaker 2: There's no good time for something like this to happen.
- 2:12Speaker 2: But if you're economy strong, that has advantages but if
- 2:15Speaker 2: your economy has been weak, then you know that's got
- 2:18Speaker 2: some upsides as well. In particular, they're not in a
- 2:21Speaker 2: very frothy time for asset prices. For example, all the
- 2:24Speaker 2: heats come out of house prices already, so you know,
- 2:28Speaker 2: the chances of a crash there is obviously lower from
- 2:31Speaker 2: the fact that the starting point is lower. We're not
- 2:35Speaker 2: in the world where firms are going to find it
- 2:36Speaker 2: particularly easy to pass cost increases through the prices. That's
- 2:40Speaker 2: bad news for them, but good news for the Reserve
- 2:44Speaker 2: Bank in terms of keeping in slate, we're not keeping
- 2:47Speaker 2: inflation low, but making sure it stays low in the
- 2:49Speaker 2: medium term, for example. But yeah, we're seeing different countries
- 2:53Speaker 2: at different points of the cycle. Yeah, being more or
- 2:57Speaker 2: less worried about inflation for exactly those kinds of reasons.
- 3:01Speaker 2: But it's also true that our official cash rate is
- 3:04Speaker 2: starting from a very low point. So there is a
- 3:08Speaker 2: scenario where the Reserve Bank could decide a little bit
- 3:12Speaker 2: sooner than otherwise that maybe they should get it back
- 3:14Speaker 2: to something closer to neutral. We'll have to wait and see.
- 3:17Speaker 2: We're still forecasting to send that. But honestly, the range
- 3:20Speaker 2: of plausible scenarios is obviously much much wider than it
- 3:24Speaker 2: was six weeks ago.
- 3:25Speaker 1: And changes on every truth social post from a certain
- 3:29Speaker 1: man in the White House, Sharon Zolmer, Ain's chief economists
- 3:32Speaker 1: with us for.
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