Latest / The Eye of Jupiter Podcast / L72 CCIS- Connecticut Cryptid Investigative Society
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- 0:12Speaker 1: All right, guys, welcome back to the I Jubiter podcast.
- 0:14Speaker 1: This is the live episode that comes out every Friday
- 0:17Speaker 1: at six forty five pm Eastern Time on YouTube as
- 0:21Speaker 1: well as Facebook. And this week I had on mister
- 0:24Speaker 1: Colin Haskins from the Connecticut Cryptid Research excuse me, Connecticut
- 0:29Speaker 1: Cryptid Investigative Society. The ccis. You can find him on Facebook.
- 0:33Speaker 1: All the links are in the description below this episode.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Very interesting guest, very knowledgeable guests.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Uh.
- 0:41Speaker 1: He's had a big foot encounter and we got into
- 0:43Speaker 1: Puckwadgi's and a bunch of other cryptids I haven't even
- 0:47Speaker 1: heard of before, so it's very informative.
- 0:49Speaker 3: Uh.
- 0:50Speaker 1: He does a lot in the community. He tries to
- 0:52Speaker 1: help people understand that and he also helps people who've
- 0:55Speaker 1: been seeing things. And he's also very you know, inquisitive,
- 0:59Speaker 1: likes to go out the places and tell some interesting
- 1:02Speaker 1: stories in this episode as well. If you keep finding
- 1:04Speaker 1: yourself coming back to the show over here on Spotify,
- 1:07Speaker 1: please do me a big favor and leave a rating,
- 1:10Speaker 1: and yeah, download the episodes. It's been a lot of fun.
- 1:15Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it very very much, and I hope you
- 1:18Speaker 1: enjoyed this one. With Colin Haskins from the Connecticut Crypti
- 1:22Speaker 1: Investigative Society.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Tom, thank you. It's an honor to be here. I
- 1:32Speaker 2: was talking to earlier. That was a great pre introduction.
- 1:36Speaker 2: I love the Eye of Jupiter, and yeah, find your
- 1:38Speaker 2: friend there. There's only a couple likes away, and let's
- 1:41Speaker 2: get into that five hundred. I know, this is live.
- 1:44Speaker 2: And the thing about Ceesis is we have a lot
- 1:47Speaker 2: of children. We go to events and the kids are
- 1:51Speaker 2: always so into what we do. Now we're always keeping
- 1:54Speaker 2: it nice and above the table here. So it's an
- 1:57Speaker 2: honor to be here with the Eye of Jewil.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Well, it's honor to have you here. Man, that's such
- 2:02Speaker 1: a kind thing to say. Yeah, and that you would
- 2:04Speaker 1: that you don't even know who you know, Daniel cahun Is,
- 2:07Speaker 1: and you would say, yeah, let's go do that, and
- 2:09Speaker 1: that's awesome, that's incredible, and okay, let's let's do that
- 2:12Speaker 1: a little bit. Then tell me, tell me a little
- 2:14Speaker 1: bit of you know, like about yourself and where we
- 2:16Speaker 1: can find you and what what it is that you do.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Uh for children when it comes to you know, cryptis
- 2:21Speaker 1: and things of that nature.
- 2:24Speaker 2: We don't do anything for children, Okay, so because of
- 2:28Speaker 2: what we do outdoors, none of that. Everything. It's pretty
- 2:33Speaker 2: much me and camera person and an invited guest videos,
- 2:36Speaker 2: and then we do conferences with Nick Rossman and his
- 2:41Speaker 2: thing here in Connecticut, sort of a paranormal thing. I
- 2:44Speaker 2: went to that and I noted I just made on
- 2:48Speaker 2: a comment unseasis that they didn't have any cryptid stuff.
- 2:51Speaker 2: And next thing you know, we were invited to that and
- 2:54Speaker 2: the kids always come up to us. So we just
- 2:56Speaker 2: love that interaction and that's why there's never any foul
- 3:01Speaker 2: language with us. There's never any guns. We're never out
- 3:04Speaker 2: there hooting and hollering. I mean we do. I'm sorry
- 3:08Speaker 2: we do, but you know, we just we really like
- 3:13Speaker 2: that that when we go live to these events, the
- 3:16Speaker 2: kids are always just asking me a bunch of questions
- 3:19Speaker 2: and it's great.
- 3:20Speaker 1: It's good. Hello, So they asked you a question. So
- 3:23Speaker 1: you know, you've been doing this for quite a while.
- 3:25Speaker 1: I think you told me backstage something of like thirty years.
- 3:27Speaker 1: How did you How did you get into doing this?
- 3:31Speaker 2: Okay, I've been on stage as a performance artist with
- 3:36Speaker 2: musicians and poets for thirty years. That's me.
- 3:41Speaker 1: That's me, bro I'm a standard comedian I'm a stand
- 3:44Speaker 1: up comedian. I'll be going out and doing it in
- 3:45Speaker 1: Spanish today, so wish me luck. And a musician, yeah, buddy,
- 3:53Speaker 1: that's what we do.
- 3:53Speaker 2: What I was saying to you was that I'm just
- 3:56Speaker 2: very comfortable in front of people and presenting and talking
- 3:59Speaker 2: and you know that kind of thing as a host.
- 4:02Speaker 2: I always hosted these events, so I'm not like afraid
- 4:05Speaker 2: of an audience or something. So that's what I was saying.
- 4:08Speaker 2: But Ceesus itself has been going strong for over five
- 4:12Speaker 2: years now. We have well over one hundred and twenty investigations,
- 4:18Speaker 2: almost seventy or so on locations, which is separate from
- 4:23Speaker 2: a field investigation, and then we do conferences and we're
- 4:27Speaker 2: just always out there and we like to go to
- 4:29Speaker 2: a different place every time we go out and we
- 4:33Speaker 2: find crazy evidence.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Wow. Well okay, so as we also said, well I've
- 4:38Speaker 1: said to you and you were. You agreed with me,
- 4:41Speaker 1: Like Connecticut is not known for you know, you know cryptis.
- 4:45Speaker 1: We'll talk about the two big ones, and I would
- 4:47Speaker 1: love to get into some other ones that maybe you've
- 4:49Speaker 1: encountered or have evidence of, or if people have told
- 4:52Speaker 1: you that they've seen, you know, when you think of
- 4:54Speaker 1: you know, bigfoot sasquatch or things of that nature, or
- 4:58Speaker 1: even dog man or where will people don't think of Connecticut.
- 5:01Speaker 1: But what they don't realize is that, like mostly the
- 5:04Speaker 1: western and the northern part of Connecticut is very rural,
- 5:07Speaker 1: isn't it?
- 5:09Speaker 2: Very very much so? Especially our sort of where we
- 5:14Speaker 2: live is the northwest corner of Connecticut, Litchfield County. That's
- 5:19Speaker 2: the foothills of the Berkshires. The next town over is Winstead, Connecticut. Winstead.
- 5:27Speaker 2: If you go back to the eighteen hundreds, you'll get
- 5:30Speaker 2: reports of the Winstead wild man, clearly a bigfoot so
- 5:36Speaker 2: and before that, not far from where we do a
- 5:40Speaker 2: lot of investigating is Mohawk Mountain and that was part
- 5:47Speaker 2: of the Mohawk Tribal Reservation, okay, and there is a
- 5:51Speaker 2: lot of sort of puck wedgy activity there. Not far
- 5:56Speaker 2: away then is the Black Hills of meriden with the
- 5:59Speaker 2: Black of Meridin and so on and so forth. And
- 6:02Speaker 2: the reason Cesis was kind of started was because of
- 6:07Speaker 2: just that, you know, I was really I have been
- 6:10Speaker 2: hiking and an outdoors person, camping, fishing, all of that
- 6:15Speaker 2: basically my whole life. And you know, I'm from Downea's mean,
- 6:18Speaker 2: But I live in Connecticut many years, so I'm always
- 6:21Speaker 2: out there, and I was always like, I would look
- 6:22Speaker 2: up things of Connecticut and it would be very sparse information.
- 6:27Speaker 2: And after I sort of left thirty years of doing
- 6:31Speaker 2: poetry and the music and art scene, I just decided
- 6:35Speaker 2: that I really want to do what I really really
- 6:37Speaker 2: like and something that was fun to me, and that
- 6:40Speaker 2: was investigate cryptis, but not just do it, do it
- 6:44Speaker 2: specifically for Connecticut, set it up online, make it professional
- 6:49Speaker 2: from the get go, using years of amateur biology and
- 6:53Speaker 2: advanced scuba diving and all of that, and I just
- 6:57Speaker 2: decided that, you know, we're going to do it. And
- 6:59Speaker 2: it stuck. Started small, but by no means is small anymore.
- 7:04Speaker 2: It's snowballing every day.
- 7:06Speaker 1: Fantastic. First of all, thank you so much Austin from
- 7:09Speaker 1: the Dead Chronicles go check them out, guys an incredible
- 7:12Speaker 1: paranormal investigator and film slash documentary documentarian. Great guy. Thank
- 7:18Speaker 1: you for the super chat, my friend. I appreciate it.
- 7:21Speaker 1: We will have you on again soon. I want to
- 7:23Speaker 1: promote your show like always, my friend. Yeah, that's interesting.
- 7:26Speaker 1: So was there a specific instance or something that you
- 7:30Speaker 1: know sparked your imaginations when it came to cryptis was
- 7:33Speaker 1: it something when you were young or something that just
- 7:36Speaker 1: came along through life? How did that start with you?
- 7:40Speaker 2: I think, like a lot of us, right, it would
- 7:42Speaker 2: have started way back when you know you're young. You
- 7:45Speaker 2: see those first blurry photos in National Choir, you see
- 7:50Speaker 2: in search of I mean the information back there. I
- 7:52Speaker 2: mean they did the best they could, right, but you know,
- 7:55Speaker 2: the whole Hope Surgeon photo of the lackness Monciet, kind
- 7:59Speaker 2: of those three things. Occasional other stuff.
- 8:05Speaker 1: The Patterson Gimblin film for sure, right, yeah, for sure, sure.
- 8:09Speaker 1: I mean that is that is the meat and potatoes
- 8:12Speaker 1: of I mean there's other great evidence. Yeah, but it's
- 8:16Speaker 1: the one where it was like, what's that?
- 8:19Speaker 2: I'm still I really you know what I mean. There's
- 8:22Speaker 2: a lot of evidence the Gimblin Patterson Gimblin footage that
- 8:26Speaker 2: is a hoax. There's a lot of evidence that it's real,
- 8:29Speaker 2: and I still and I have a hard time with it.
- 8:34Speaker 2: To me, it's inconclusive, which there's a lot of other
- 8:37Speaker 2: stuff that needs Yeah, to me, it is it's in.
- 8:40Speaker 1: Which evidence, which evidence, which evidence? It's inconclusive.
- 8:46Speaker 2: Inconclusive. Okay, that's fair enough, yes or no?
- 8:50Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. I had a whole episode on do you
- 8:52Speaker 1: know who m K Davis is?
- 8:55Speaker 2: M K Davis? Is that ringing the bell to me?
- 8:58Speaker 1: M K Davis. He's like, he's the one who tracked
- 9:02Speaker 1: down the Patterson Gemlin film to its closest route, Like
- 9:06Speaker 1: you know, there's been copies of copies of copies over
- 9:08Speaker 1: the years, and he actually, I think it took him
- 9:11Speaker 1: ten years to finally actually meet missus Patterson. And they
- 9:14Speaker 1: went up like in somewhere's in the house, somewhere's under
- 9:16Speaker 1: a dusty cabinet, and they found one of the original
- 9:19Speaker 1: copies and he actually took the videos and blew them
- 9:23Speaker 1: up and showed the braid on the hair right here,
- 9:26Speaker 1: the braid right here. And it's an interesting thing. And
- 9:30Speaker 1: I think it's fine. I think there's nothing wrong with
- 9:34Speaker 1: saying that is inconclusive. For me, it's conclusive. But I
- 9:38Speaker 1: am not an expert as yourself or somebody who's had
- 9:40Speaker 1: as much experience as yourself.
- 9:42Speaker 2: I'm not an expert. I'm still learning. I learned about
- 9:45Speaker 2: a cryptid here in Connecticut. I couldn't believe it, after all,
- 9:48Speaker 2: these tell me called the mucket?
- 9:52Speaker 1: What's that?
- 9:53Speaker 2: And this mucket is sort of like imagine some almost
- 9:57Speaker 2: imagine this crazy snaked fish right native and it's in
- 10:02Speaker 2: this not no, I don't have I just learned about it.
- 10:06Speaker 2: So it's in this river and handed him and it's
- 10:10Speaker 2: able to jump over dams, and it will attack you.
- 10:14Speaker 2: It's like a The drawing I saw was like a
- 10:18Speaker 2: sort of a catfish, angler fish with piranha fang several
- 10:23Speaker 2: feet long, and it attacked people. And I mean this
- 10:26Speaker 2: reports are as recent as the eighties and the town
- 10:30Speaker 2: there has a little festival, and I can't believe I
- 10:33Speaker 2: just found out about this guy. I'm like, whoa you
- 10:36Speaker 2: know that you declared the mucket m U c k
- 10:42Speaker 2: e T just like bucket, like mayor mucket. You guys
- 10:46Speaker 2: gotta look this up. I would have had a proper information,
- 10:49Speaker 2: but I mean, I just found out about it.
- 10:51Speaker 1: Don't worry about it, man. That's that's a new one
- 10:53Speaker 1: for me. Okay. You also mentioned Okay, I've heard this before,
- 10:56Speaker 1: and it's I normally hear it on the eastern seaboard, northeast.
- 11:01Speaker 1: Hy what's up about al Santa Rica? Everybody from Bronxville
- 11:04Speaker 1: Paranormal Society in New York. Good friend of mine. Hey,
- 11:09Speaker 1: what's Yeah? He's awesome, he's a great guy. Uh, what
- 11:13Speaker 1: what can you tell me about the Puck Wedgie? I
- 11:16Speaker 1: heard this, I think in New Jersey.
- 11:18Speaker 2: I've heard of it.
- 11:18Speaker 1: But what is the Puck Wedgie and what is the
- 11:20Speaker 1: lore or the what is being said about it? And
- 11:23Speaker 1: what kind of evidence will people find of this other
- 11:25Speaker 1: than't say I witness testimony.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Well, I mean, so you're gonna look at Puck Weggie.
- 11:30Speaker 2: The first thing you're gonna do is end up in
- 11:32Speaker 2: Freetown State Forest in Massachusetts, in the whole Bridgewater triangle.
- 11:37Speaker 2: And that's Massachusetts, right, Yeah, so that's what you're gonna get.
- 11:41Speaker 2: There's a whole lot of stuff. I mean, as soon
- 11:43Speaker 2: as you look that up, you're not gonna find Connecticut. Okay. However,
- 11:48Speaker 2: the Puck Wedgie lore stretches well above into Maine, you know, Canada,
- 11:54Speaker 2: below Connecticut, the New Jersey and then onwards northwest into
- 11:59Speaker 2: the Great Lakes. That is Puck Wedgy territory. So it's
- 12:02Speaker 2: not just a Bridgewater triangle. However, that's a hotspot Massachusetts Bridge.
- 12:11Speaker 1: If you had to describe them if if you had
- 12:14Speaker 1: to describe in colin what like for somebody who doesn't know,
- 12:17Speaker 1: like myself, if you would have to describe, if you
- 12:19Speaker 1: were to have to describe one to somebody, what how
- 12:22Speaker 1: would you How would you do that?
- 12:24Speaker 2: I would say, you're looking at a very small hominid,
- 12:29Speaker 2: kind of like what we found the fossilized and skeletal
- 12:32Speaker 2: remains on the Fiji Island of recently was called the hobbit.
- 12:37Speaker 3: Oh Okay, understand in our our frame, you know, the
- 12:45Speaker 3: Homo sapien species, the humanoid is upright hominids.
- 12:52Speaker 2: Are There are eighty nine known variations of upright hominids,
- 12:58Speaker 2: including Neanderthal and uh, you know, gigantopitheciss against the Australia
- 13:03Speaker 2: pithecists and on and on and on, the Great Apes
- 13:06Speaker 2: and whatnot. Okay, kind of like Homo florienta, like Homer Florienza.
- 13:12Speaker 2: Thank you both.
- 13:13Speaker 1: Fist bump, Yeah, buddy, I got you. I know a
- 13:15Speaker 1: little bit, I know a little bit. I mean I'm
- 13:17Speaker 1: not completely in the woods here, man.
- 13:21Speaker 2: You're doing it almost.
- 13:23Speaker 1: What's more than I am? You're more completely in the
- 13:25Speaker 1: woods than I am.
- 13:27Speaker 2: A little little pun there a little pun you're invited
- 13:30Speaker 2: to come squatching with us any day. So okay, getting
- 13:35Speaker 2: to puck weggies. So Massachusetts, that whole Bridgewater area, that's
- 13:40Speaker 2: a hot spot, but the lore is not located. Now.
- 13:43Speaker 2: It's real interesting is you go into the Wampanob tribes
- 13:46Speaker 2: and then they change on up into the tribe of
- 13:49Speaker 2: the First Nation tribes towards the Great Lakes. The narrative
- 13:53Speaker 2: of puck Wedgy changes from that in New England and
- 13:57Speaker 2: Connecticut as it gets in to the Great Lakes. So
- 14:01Speaker 2: here in what you're gonna find in Massachusetts and Connecticut
- 14:04Speaker 2: is this lore about other dangerous their tricksters. They could
- 14:09Speaker 2: cause you damage. And you know, I sort of get
- 14:12Speaker 2: it points to their intelligence. If there are hominid species,
- 14:18Speaker 2: then they could be highly intelligent. And I think they
- 14:20Speaker 2: are how many species, And I think they're very similar
- 14:23Speaker 2: to gnomes, dwarfs and all that stuff. In Europe, I
- 14:26Speaker 2: think it's just cultural differences. We're gonna personify these things.
- 14:31Speaker 2: So you know, when the Europeans came over the whole
- 14:34Speaker 2: little people think that there was no problem left for
- 14:38Speaker 2: cons in Ireland and not the kinds with running around
- 14:41Speaker 2: with silly green suits. Looking for possible we're talking the
- 14:43Speaker 2: real deal here. Okay, so what is a wedgie? Here?
- 14:51Speaker 2: Is a small hominid. But they have a really unusual
- 14:55Speaker 2: appearance to me from the drawings. I see that when
- 14:59Speaker 2: I see what, I think collectively all the stuff I've
- 15:02Speaker 2: seen is imagine a three foot tall European hedgehog.
- 15:11Speaker 1: Okay, I actually lived in Europe for twenty years, so
- 15:14Speaker 1: I know exactly what that looks like.
- 15:18Speaker 2: Make them a little bit, make them hominy, give them
- 15:21Speaker 2: a little more human appearance in the face, hands with
- 15:26Speaker 2: opposable digits, you know, bipedal all the time. And then
- 15:34Speaker 2: you have a puck wedgie. And then you asked about
- 15:36Speaker 2: evidence finding them, and I hinted on the Lord, and
- 15:40Speaker 2: I'm gonna finish with that. So one day I was
- 15:44Speaker 2: just thinking about what would be left behind? What evidence
- 15:49Speaker 2: would we find of ancient puck wedges. Okay, they're still here,
- 15:52Speaker 2: let's say they're still here, But what would I find
- 15:55Speaker 2: would be And I was just thinking about it. I'm like,
- 15:57Speaker 2: what would be left well, the same thing that would
- 15:59Speaker 2: be left of the nations people's evidence, pottery shards and arrowheads.
- 16:06Speaker 2: So I have never found an arrowhead. I've looked. I
- 16:10Speaker 2: still I'm still looking. I'll find one one day. And
- 16:13Speaker 2: I just had to thought, well, what would a wedgy
- 16:16Speaker 2: arrowhead be? Well, it would be tiny, wouldn't it. Imagine
- 16:19Speaker 2: tiny time? Right, you're a little so you're not going
- 16:21Speaker 2: to carry around this freaking thing, right, like some kind
- 16:25Speaker 2: of British long bow. You're gonna have a tiny little.
- 16:28Speaker 1: Yeah, or something of that nature too, maybe right, but.
- 16:34Speaker 2: It's gonna be small. It's gonna be size appropriate. They're
- 16:38Speaker 2: not hunting deer, right, They're gonna be hunting squirrels and
- 16:41Speaker 2: stuff like that, right, so their game would be a
- 16:44Speaker 2: lot smaller. So I was like, okay, I don't know
- 16:47Speaker 2: the first thing about arrowheads. Let me go to a
- 16:50Speaker 2: Facebook group. I found a local Facebook group and I
- 16:54Speaker 2: just asked the simple question, Hey, guys, are these these
- 16:57Speaker 2: tiny little arrowheads? And, of course face book fee being Facebook,
- 17:01Speaker 2: the first response I got was oh, he doesn't know
- 17:05Speaker 2: how how I got all this stuff. Until finally they
- 17:07Speaker 2: were like people started posting pictures of wartz rock arrowheads
- 17:14Speaker 2: next to dimes, next to American currency dimes, Okay, smaller
- 17:19Speaker 2: than a dime, and I was like, wow them, So
- 17:21Speaker 2: I asked the question, well, why would a Native American
- 17:25Speaker 2: make an arrowhead that small? US? People? Right, right? Yes,
- 17:31Speaker 2: just people Back then Europeans weren't here. People were making
- 17:34Speaker 2: these tiny arrowheads. I mean a lot of them out
- 17:38Speaker 2: of quartz, which is extremely hard. That doesn't make sense
- 17:42Speaker 2: to me. And so I post a question, well, you know,
- 17:48Speaker 2: what do you guys think about the possibility of puck wedgers?
- 17:50Speaker 2: And then that's I got kicked out of the Yeah.
- 17:53Speaker 1: Well, we actually have a Native American, We actually have
- 17:56Speaker 1: a name, who's who's here? And she is from Northwest,
- 18:00Speaker 1: she is from Oregon, and she said, there's a thing
- 18:03Speaker 1: called bird tips. Maybe they're smaller, and maybe you can
- 18:05Speaker 1: enlighten us Tracker, maybe you can enlighten us today about that.
- 18:08Speaker 1: I would love to. If you have something god to
- 18:10Speaker 1: write it in the comments and I'll post it up
- 18:12Speaker 1: there so we can learn. Everyone needs to learn. The
- 18:14Speaker 1: first the first rawhead I made was a small bird tip. Okay,
- 18:17Speaker 1: And what size would that be? Northwest? What size would
- 18:20Speaker 1: that be different?
- 18:22Speaker 2: Smaller than a dime?
- 18:24Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll find out, man, We're gonna find out. I
- 18:27Speaker 1: heard this, Yeah, I heard this.
- 18:29Speaker 2: I also heard this from the same group, that there
- 18:32Speaker 2: are bird tips and another person said ceremonial and again
- 18:36Speaker 2: listen outright say, I don't know the first thing about aarrow.
- 18:41Speaker 2: I just asked a simple question to me. There was
- 18:45Speaker 2: the answer that I was looking for. Yes, whoever made them?
- 18:50Speaker 2: I just thought this was really interesting, really interesting.
- 18:54Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with asking questions. I think if you come
- 18:56Speaker 1: from the thing you know, you come from a point
- 18:58Speaker 1: of view. I think from what I'm here from you
- 19:00Speaker 1: you're scientifically minded. You know when you say hominids or upright,
- 19:04Speaker 1: the bipedal ape like you know, animals, So you're coming
- 19:08Speaker 1: from more of the scientific realm. Now when it comes
- 19:11Speaker 1: to something like, say, for example, the one that everyone
- 19:14Speaker 1: knows Bigfoot, for example, do you have you had experiences
- 19:17Speaker 1: with them, or or or or things of that nature
- 19:20Speaker 1: that you would like to share with us. Yeah, I.
- 19:25Speaker 2: Way before I started to see so, so I'm gonna
- 19:28Speaker 2: I'm gonna just imagine back in two thousand and early
- 19:34Speaker 2: two thousands, way before I was doing this, I was
- 19:37Speaker 2: just a construction worker, and I was doing my poetry
- 19:40Speaker 2: and art thing almost every night. So I was just
- 19:42Speaker 2: really into that world being on stage. And I do
- 19:46Speaker 2: want to get back to the lore of the puckwages
- 19:48Speaker 2: after I answered this question, so as if I had
- 19:53Speaker 2: an experience. Yes, So it was February in East Hartford, Connecticut,
- 20:00Speaker 2: which is right off the capitol. Right, we're talking a city,
- 20:03Speaker 2: this is a city suburb. This is highways. And there
- 20:07Speaker 2: was a park and there was a river behind an
- 20:09Speaker 2: apartment I was living in, and for whatever reason, there
- 20:12Speaker 2: was these beautiful maple trees. It was February, Connecticut, so
- 20:15Speaker 2: I decided I had and I love agriculture. So I'm
- 20:18Speaker 2: in the city. I'm like a February it's cold, it's icye.
- 20:22Speaker 2: I'm going to tap these maple trees. I'm going to
- 20:24Speaker 2: learn and I never did it before. I'm going to
- 20:26Speaker 2: teach myself how to do maple tap and make my
- 20:28Speaker 2: own syrup. I've always wanted to do it. So I
- 20:30Speaker 2: went ahead and did that. And that involves the whole thing.
- 20:35Speaker 2: Where these maple trees were was literally behind a parking
- 20:38Speaker 2: lot with it was a parking lot was reclaimed just
- 20:42Speaker 2: before the river. So the parking lot ended abruptly with bluestone,
- 20:46Speaker 2: very common crushed bluestone highwaystones, and all this remains of
- 20:50Speaker 2: broken bottles and trash and mangled mufflers and twisted metal
- 20:55Speaker 2: cans and all this stuff below on a very sharp
- 20:59Speaker 2: angle arper than forty five degrees, and had to go
- 21:02Speaker 2: down a good thirty five feet into the Hackenham River.
- 21:06Speaker 2: And that was the only linear trail that leads up
- 21:08Speaker 2: into Tungst's Forest, Massachusetts. Otherwise it was city crazy fish
- 21:14Speaker 2: in that river. So I got my taps. I'm coming
- 21:19Speaker 2: home from work. It's February, Connecticut. By the time I
- 21:21Speaker 2: get to the parking lot, it's got to be pushing
- 21:25Speaker 2: five forty five six o'clock PM, And if you know
- 21:28Speaker 2: anything about winters in Connecticut, turn the clocks back and
- 21:32Speaker 2: it's already getting dark. So I'm parking. I had been
- 21:36Speaker 2: getting a lot of good set really pring me in.
- 21:39Speaker 2: My five gallon buckets were filling to the top. So
- 21:42Speaker 2: where I parked to the end of the parking lot
- 21:45Speaker 2: where I would start going into the where the trees
- 21:48Speaker 2: were just maybe ten feet in from the end of
- 21:50Speaker 2: the parking lot. I'm maybe forty five feet at the
- 21:52Speaker 2: beginning of the parking lot where I always park. I'm
- 21:55Speaker 2: walking and I see this guy kind of hunched over
- 22:00Speaker 2: looking at my my SAP buckets, which is the same
- 22:04Speaker 2: kind of thing I would do. And I was thinking, wow, okay,
- 22:06Speaker 2: now I was friends with this was just an apartment complex.
- 22:09Speaker 2: I was really friends with a lot of people. I
- 22:11Speaker 2: saw somebody was just curious, like, what the hell is
- 22:13Speaker 2: this crazy dude doing tape the cap in maple trees
- 22:17Speaker 2: in February. I want to go just to see what
- 22:18Speaker 2: it is. That's that was the thought in my head.
- 22:20Speaker 2: So I was like, I approached him. I'm getting closer,
- 22:23Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm like a big guy, a
- 22:27Speaker 2: big felon, better be friendly. So you know, I'm coming
- 22:31Speaker 2: closer and closer. When this guy stands up, Okay, he
- 22:35Speaker 2: just kept standing up. I mean he just did not
- 22:39Speaker 2: stop going up. He locked eyes with me for maybe
- 22:44Speaker 2: two or three seconds. I'm probably at this point now
- 22:49Speaker 2: I know I'm I'm a painter by trade, so I
- 22:51Speaker 2: know Ladder Heights. I'm probably thirty five feet away from this.
- 22:56Speaker 2: It's getting dark. This guy stands up and he lets
- 23:01Speaker 2: out this this owl that just resonates through you, Oh
- 23:06Speaker 2: my god, and goes crashing down, straight down, straight through
- 23:11Speaker 2: all of that metal and glass and broken fences and
- 23:15Speaker 2: big huge crush bluestone the size of basketballs. And all
- 23:19Speaker 2: these gnarly angles. That's why they use it for construction
- 23:22Speaker 2: down into the Hockenhum River with god knows what's in there.
- 23:26Speaker 2: Up onto the other side, same situation. Another apartment in
- 23:30Speaker 2: the north on the Hocking'am Trail into Massachusetts, howling knocking
- 23:35Speaker 2: over freaking every tree on its way, and scared the
- 23:39Speaker 2: crap out of me. And I had realized at that point,
- 23:43Speaker 2: by the way, I just left my buckets there for
- 23:45Speaker 2: the night. I wasn't gonna be tapping anymore. I just
- 23:50Speaker 2: realized that that I had a hard time rationalizing this
- 23:54Speaker 2: because I'm in East Hartford. You might as well be
- 23:57Speaker 2: in the Bronx, New York or something. Right. It was
- 24:01Speaker 2: the furthest thing from my mind. I was just tired. Actually,
- 24:04Speaker 2: I remember, it's like, oh crap, now, I gotta boil
- 24:06Speaker 2: this town. You gotta boil set. You can't keep it.
- 24:08Speaker 2: It's gotta be boiled that night. If you're gonna do it.
- 24:11Speaker 2: It's it's really dedicated. So I had realized after maybe
- 24:18Speaker 2: a couple days, well the next day actually, let's say,
- 24:21Speaker 2: because I had to go and check on the buckets,
- 24:23Speaker 2: but I let them sit there, and I knew they
- 24:26Speaker 2: were just gonna be overflowing. But that's fine. I'll just
- 24:28Speaker 2: deal with them after work the next day. So I
- 24:30Speaker 2: go where now the buckets were sitting. Behind the buckets
- 24:35Speaker 2: were hemlock trees, which aren't evergreen, and hemlock trees break
- 24:39Speaker 2: off at the bottom a lot. So I was like, well,
- 24:43Speaker 2: I remember where that one point was, right where his
- 24:46Speaker 2: head was, like, you see my presaginal crest here right,
- 24:50Speaker 2: he had the same thing, except that guy that was
- 24:55Speaker 2: seven feet eight inches pushing on eight And I'm like, yeah,
- 25:02Speaker 2: then I could see where all the sumacs were pushed
- 25:05Speaker 2: aside and onto the upper side. And I was like,
- 25:09Speaker 2: this was before ceases, years years and years before. And
- 25:14Speaker 2: I was like, but there was a big foot in
- 25:18Speaker 2: the city.
- 25:19Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my encounter.
- 25:21Speaker 2: Now many years go by and I'm at the end
- 25:25Speaker 2: of my whole art thing, and I decided to start ceases,
- 25:29Speaker 2: and I found crazy evidence since, but nothing like that. Nothing. Yeah,
- 25:36Speaker 2: I don't think first when this thing realized that I
- 25:39Speaker 2: was coming towards it, you gotta understand, nobody went back
- 25:44Speaker 2: there because it was just full of trash and stuff.
- 25:48Speaker 2: I mean, people would even look at me weird for
- 25:51Speaker 2: going back there. At the end of the day, they
- 25:53Speaker 2: kind of liked me or put up with me because
- 25:55Speaker 2: I'm kind of weird, you know, and they I, welcome
- 26:00Speaker 2: to the show.
- 26:01Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. I'm kind of weird. Yeah, that's
- 26:06Speaker 1: that's me and all my friends.
- 26:10Speaker 2: So what happened, Tom, is this hominid, this bipedal hominid
- 26:18Speaker 2: realized I was heading its way and realized I saw it,
- 26:22Speaker 2: and that pissed it off. And I gotta tell you,
- 26:25Speaker 2: our East Coast squatches they are big, and they are strong,
- 26:31Speaker 2: and they are no joke. You do not want to
- 26:34Speaker 2: mess with these guys. They are not the West Coast
- 26:36Speaker 2: squatches all friendly like that. No, the mohawks here call
- 26:42Speaker 2: them Gunna Squad, the stone giants, and they they were
- 26:47Speaker 2: they Now this is great. So the tribes here, we're
- 26:52Speaker 2: gonna get back and I'll get back to this. We're
- 26:54Speaker 2: gonna get back to the puck wedges. And now the
- 26:56Speaker 2: narrative changes. We asked, we talked about what they would
- 27:02Speaker 2: look like, and I described them what I think then,
- 27:06Speaker 2: the evidence being arrowheads, tiny ones, bird points. Okay, the
- 27:10Speaker 2: bird points. The lore would change from the Wampa Noa
- 27:16Speaker 2: and into our mohawks and tea quats and on up
- 27:20Speaker 2: into the Great Lakes, the narrative changes from mischievous and troublesome.
- 27:26Speaker 2: And there used to be a good narrative. Apparently there
- 27:29Speaker 2: was this sort of war them with us. We used
- 27:32Speaker 2: to trade and be friends, but then that sort of
- 27:37Speaker 2: went sour and then they became hostile. But as you
- 27:41Speaker 2: follow the narratives up towards the Great Lakes, and of
- 27:43Speaker 2: course the names are going to change between tribes, right,
- 27:47Speaker 2: so but they're going to understand this is the same thing,
- 27:50Speaker 2: and they're a little friendlier. They had a nicer relationship,
- 27:55Speaker 2: and they still carry on that sort of benevolent relationship
- 28:01Speaker 2: with them. So it's just really interesting and I like
- 28:08Speaker 2: to think that. So we leave them offerings, We leave
- 28:11Speaker 2: them gifts. We leave them coffee beans, chocolate, copper, real copper, pennies, sweets,
- 28:19Speaker 2: all kinds of what we think would be useful to
- 28:22Speaker 2: a little person, right, so we leave offerings. One time
- 28:26Speaker 2: we brought EMFs and voice boxes to Mohawk Mountain and
- 28:30Speaker 2: that was just crazy. That was just just the evidence
- 28:34Speaker 2: we got there was just crazy. And so my friend
- 28:38Speaker 2: he said, well, you're so far deep into the forest,
- 28:41Speaker 2: deep in mind, you that there should not be any
- 28:45Speaker 2: electromagnetic frequencies. A call box shouldn't really work that way.
- 28:51Speaker 2: And we have all of this on video. You just
- 28:53Speaker 2: got to backtrack through hundreds of investigations.
- 28:59Speaker 1: Wow, that's that's that's so much to take in this.
- 29:02Speaker 1: So this is fascinating to you. This is fascinating. You
- 29:06Speaker 1: love it. This is this is like like God's calling
- 29:09Speaker 1: kind of to you. And it's really interesting. You're telling
- 29:12Speaker 1: me that you I think you said you were from Maine, right, yes, and.
- 29:17Speaker 2: The most right near above Nova Scotia and into the
- 29:21Speaker 2: whole you know that whole area.
- 29:24Speaker 1: Oh wow, so you're way up there is at that
- 29:26Speaker 1: pay completely different and uh, you guys have your own
- 29:30Speaker 1: little accent up there too, don't you.
- 29:32Speaker 2: Oh yes, sir, listen. I did an episode with my
- 29:39Speaker 2: older brother Larry. Oh my god, and we we did
- 29:42Speaker 2: a night investigation and there were great white sharks jumping
- 29:47Speaker 2: out of the water at night. You could just hear
- 29:48Speaker 2: them splashing around, and they were hunting seals. That's the
- 29:52Speaker 2: highest tides in the world. So as we got there,
- 29:56Speaker 2: the tides were just going up. So the island that
- 29:58Speaker 2: the seals were on, the Great Harbor Seals was getting
- 30:02Speaker 2: flooded again, and the sharks were going crazy and they
- 30:05Speaker 2: are just humongous.
- 30:08Speaker 1: Yeah. I was watching the whole thing about these worm diggers.
- 30:10Speaker 1: It was like from like years ago, and they would
- 30:13Speaker 1: the tides go out real far there, especially like the
- 30:15Speaker 1: Halifax area in Canada. I think they dropped something like
- 30:19Speaker 1: thirty feet something like this La where I'm from, fifty.
- 30:24Speaker 2: Not just fifty feet. Tom. When the fifty feet go out,
- 30:29Speaker 2: gotta understand, the mud flats go for miles. So it's
- 30:34Speaker 2: it's okay. You could see a dock go up and
- 30:36Speaker 2: down in time laps, but when you go low tied,
- 30:39Speaker 2: you don't see any water clear into Canada. Nothing just mud.
- 30:44Speaker 1: Wow. Because I'm from Baltimore, we only have like three
- 30:47Speaker 1: feet that's it right.
- 30:49Speaker 2: Well here in Connecticut we have just slightly more than
- 30:53Speaker 2: just slightly maybe five.
- 30:55Speaker 1: Five Yeah, so you know, we had the floating docks,
- 30:57Speaker 1: but we don't need them. We also just have the
- 30:59Speaker 1: regular ones. So I'm fishermen saltwater. I used to do
- 31:03Speaker 1: hunting when I was a kid too. I'm a former
- 31:06Speaker 1: US Army soldier, so you know, I know, thank you
- 31:08Speaker 1: for serving our country. Don't worries my friend, it was.
- 31:11Speaker 1: It was something I did at the time, just I
- 31:13Speaker 1: didn't know what I was doing. But uh, I'm better
- 31:15Speaker 1: before it, I think, and also a little messed up
- 31:18Speaker 1: for it too. Hopefully one day to actually realize that
- 31:20Speaker 1: I'm working on that.
- 31:22Speaker 2: But hey, good luck with your blue channel catfish down there.
- 31:25Speaker 1: Your blue channel. Oh yeah, we got bull heads blue channel.
- 31:28Speaker 1: We had all that kind of stuff down there.
- 31:29Speaker 2: Crabs, I guess they're invasive in your sound there, I do.
- 31:35Speaker 1: I don't know, but they've always been nervous since I
- 31:37Speaker 1: was a kid. They're the better eating ones because the
- 31:39Speaker 1: bull the bullheads get all muddy and they get that
- 31:41Speaker 1: yellow streak in them, and they could be really nasty.
- 31:43Speaker 1: It can be really I prefer the blue channel ones.
- 31:45Speaker 1: You can cut it out and the meat is still good.
- 31:47Speaker 1: But if you eat the bullhead ones, a little nasty. Yeah.
- 31:50Speaker 1: So let's go ahead back to the puck wo You
- 31:53Speaker 1: said you had something else you wanted to say about that.
- 31:56Speaker 2: I was talking about the lure, so we finished up
- 31:58Speaker 2: on that. But then we were talking about the bigfoots
- 32:01Speaker 2: on why they were called the stone giants with our
- 32:04Speaker 2: and I live right near Mohawk Mountain, so I really
- 32:07Speaker 2: identify with that culture. I'm not First Nations, but I
- 32:12Speaker 2: love them. I respect them deeply. So they would call
- 32:15Speaker 2: what you would call a bigfoot gnasqua translation stone giant.
- 32:20Speaker 2: These stone giants pre European invasion. They their law was
- 32:28Speaker 2: that these big guys like the one I saw, would
- 32:31Speaker 2: roll around in pine pitch and sticky substances. Imagine you're
- 32:35Speaker 2: covered in First, you're rolling around in sticky pine pitch.
- 32:39Speaker 2: Then you find gravel and you roll around in that.
- 32:43Speaker 2: That's why you're a stone giant. Now you're covered with stones,
- 32:46Speaker 2: little pebbles, gravel like on a like on a gravel road,
- 32:51Speaker 2: but covered had the toe in this stuff. And as
- 32:55Speaker 2: as the Native Americans, if they had problems with these guys,
- 32:59Speaker 2: which they did, they were aggressive. They would come in
- 33:02Speaker 2: and mess with your whole settlement. They would try to
- 33:06Speaker 2: fire arrows at them, and the arrowheads would just shatter
- 33:10Speaker 2: stone and stone shatter, kind of like.
- 33:14Speaker 1: Our Native American friend road ray here. Yep, they use
- 33:17Speaker 1: it as armor. That's very cool.
- 33:19Speaker 2: Yes, she's bad for verifying. Yeah, you guys got to
- 33:23Speaker 2: hook up with I'm so hard.
- 33:27Speaker 1: I'm trying to talk to her so much. She's she's
- 33:30Speaker 1: sixty ish. I've spoken with her and she's actually done
- 33:34Speaker 1: where she didn't do the full year, but where they
- 33:36Speaker 1: go out and they do their right of passage where
- 33:40Speaker 1: they go into the forest, and that's where she met
- 33:42Speaker 1: all the all the cryptids of the forest, and she
- 33:46Speaker 1: knows quite a bit and just we've been working on
- 33:48Speaker 1: them for six months. But hopefully one day, Tom get
- 33:51Speaker 1: I got my email. Okay, okay, I'll look at it.
- 33:53Speaker 1: I'll look at a babe, and I'll make sure we
- 33:55Speaker 1: go to thanks her. Thanks for backing them up so
- 33:57Speaker 1: that they would shoot the aras at him. It was
- 33:58Speaker 1: just kind of bounce off of because they stick.
- 34:02Speaker 2: What she was saying, Hi, So I did not know
- 34:06Speaker 2: that this continued to the northwest. This is fascinating. Okay, yeah, please,
- 34:10Speaker 2: I love your input and find cess and let's talk anyhow.
- 34:15Speaker 2: So the lore here with the mohawks and and our
- 34:17Speaker 2: wamp and ogs and others, these arrows would hit these bang,
- 34:22Speaker 2: the stone shattered. Now it's real interesting. As the Europeans invaded,
- 34:28Speaker 2: that's how I like to say it. As the Europeans invaded,
- 34:33Speaker 2: that culture immediately disappeared simply because they had guns. They
- 34:40Speaker 2: had bullets and those bullets that that that Ganasqua defense
- 34:46Speaker 2: of of resin and stone was no longer effective, and
- 34:50Speaker 2: you don't find history of that lore anymore as soon
- 34:53Speaker 2: as that point happened. And to me, it's real interesting.
- 34:55Speaker 2: You see a lot of the invasion happened on the
- 34:58Speaker 2: East coast and a lot of you know, we we industrialized,
- 35:03Speaker 2: we moved all of the wildlife away, and then you
- 35:07Speaker 2: get the modern stuff with their big foots out there,
- 35:10Speaker 2: their sasquatches, and they're more prevalent. Well, of course there
- 35:15Speaker 2: used to be caribou in Connecticut. It's crazy, but as
- 35:19Speaker 2: we are reforesting, all animals are finding their way back.
- 35:24Speaker 2: And keep in mind, this is every bit a biological animal,
- 35:30Speaker 2: very very comfortable in the wilderness. Larger brain capacity than
- 35:35Speaker 2: you or I. That automatic makes it more intelligent.
- 35:41Speaker 1: I try to explain that. I try to explain that
- 35:42Speaker 1: to people people who don't believe, and it's all that
- 35:45Speaker 1: some people. You know, I've had people who swear by
- 35:47Speaker 1: mind speak orbs all kinds of things that they've seen.
- 35:50Speaker 1: Everyone has this different experience. As you know, your experience
- 35:53Speaker 1: is different than other people's. And I listen to all
- 35:55Speaker 1: of them, but then you know, you hear things like
- 35:58Speaker 1: Ron mooreheads like you know, samurai chatter as they call it,
- 36:01Speaker 1: and they hear them talking to one another, and they go, well,
- 36:04Speaker 1: you know, they're kind of they want to think of
- 36:06Speaker 1: them as like dumb apes, but they're not, you know
- 36:08Speaker 1: what I mean, there's something completely different. They just kind
- 36:10Speaker 1: of on their on their little tree of life. They
- 36:12Speaker 1: kind of went their own little way, and their technology
- 36:15Speaker 1: ores a silicon base, and theirs is something else, something
- 36:19Speaker 1: that we don't understand. And I try to explain to
- 36:22Speaker 1: people like this, you know, if if you know, if
- 36:26Speaker 1: we can understand them. But you know, we also know
- 36:28Speaker 1: that dolphins have a cerebra of cortex that is forty
- 36:30Speaker 1: percent larger than ours, and we know they have a language.
- 36:33Speaker 1: We don't understand them either, So why wouldn't something that's
- 36:36Speaker 1: larger with us that as far as we know, if
- 36:39Speaker 1: we kind of follow our biologies saying that, you know,
- 36:42Speaker 1: they have the human features in their face with the
- 36:43Speaker 1: prime you know, their primates of sorts, that means it
- 36:46Speaker 1: would also have a large brain capacity. Why wouldn't they
- 36:48Speaker 1: also be intelligent?
- 36:49Speaker 2: You know what I mean, larger brain capacity. They have
- 36:53Speaker 2: a pre sat little Christy have a larger we have
- 36:56Speaker 2: this brain, but their brain goes further up. Human have have,
- 37:00Speaker 2: of course, as you know, elongated brains to mimic that,
- 37:04Speaker 2: but they are equipped with that larger brain already from
- 37:09Speaker 2: get go. If you're just saying, it's one of the
- 37:12Speaker 2: pithekisses larger hormetid, larger brain, and I got it. So
- 37:18Speaker 2: it's as simple as that. Listen. So they the minute
- 37:23Speaker 2: I go into this creature's habitat, I am perceived. I
- 37:28Speaker 2: am not able to perceive this creature and its habitat.
- 37:33Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
- 37:34Speaker 2: It's like they want to call that intelligence or not, but.
- 37:39Speaker 1: You're walking into their living room. It's like them, you're
- 37:42Speaker 1: watching the ball game or whatever you'd like to do,
- 37:44Speaker 1: and it is walking, you know, between you and the kitchen,
- 37:47Speaker 1: and that's you walking into their kitchen. That's their environment,
- 37:50Speaker 1: that's their technology or whatever you want to call that.
- 37:54Speaker 1: They perceive you, and it's strange. Are you having any
- 37:57Speaker 1: type of connection with like like family groups or something
- 38:00Speaker 1: like that.
- 38:02Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. We last year we found what I
- 38:10Speaker 2: think was a nursery sort of a nest. If you
- 38:13Speaker 2: go into our web page, it's right there. It was
- 38:16Speaker 2: in Bantam River in Connecticut here in the northwest, the
- 38:20Speaker 2: largest original undamned lake in Connecticut. And there's a thing
- 38:26Speaker 2: called the White Memorial, basically a forest that surrounds this thing.
- 38:30Speaker 2: And there's no hunting there. And I gotta tell you,
- 38:32Speaker 2: there are a lot of no hunting areas in Connecticut.
- 38:36Speaker 2: It's not that there isn't hunting. There is, but probably
- 38:41Speaker 2: of all the New England states, we have the largest
- 38:43Speaker 2: land mass set aside specifically for no hunting. And we
- 38:48Speaker 2: find these structures there and some massive footprints massive at
- 38:55Speaker 2: least eighteen inches wide in this crazy mud gotta be
- 38:59Speaker 2: down at least We measured all the six seven inches
- 39:03Speaker 2: and deep and then with a gate between footprints easily
- 39:10Speaker 2: more than five feet, I couldn't even replicate one step.
- 39:14Speaker 2: And I stepped in the same mud with heavy boots on,
- 39:17Speaker 2: and you know it went down maybe two inches.
- 39:22Speaker 1: Right right, dude. That's that's incredible, man, that's incredible. What
- 39:27Speaker 1: do you say? What would you say say for someone,
- 39:29Speaker 1: say somebody, for example, a novice to this, somebody who
- 39:33Speaker 1: you know, like you and I have seen Patterson Gimlan
- 39:35Speaker 1: or seen you know, the fence climber or other videos
- 39:38Speaker 1: that are out there. You know there's some especially Nowd's
- 39:41Speaker 1: with the you know, the AI stuff, which is really
- 39:43Speaker 1: bugging me. I think there should be a law saying
- 39:45Speaker 1: this is AI made my opinion or something of that nature.
- 39:48Speaker 1: Whatever that comes to me. What would you say somebody,
- 39:52Speaker 1: what how would you convince somebody that these that these
- 39:55Speaker 1: are real? What would you say to somebody that make
- 39:56Speaker 1: them think about not being this skeptical and just shutting
- 40:01Speaker 1: it down in their minds?
- 40:04Speaker 2: Well, I would say, get yourself into a state forest,
- 40:10Speaker 2: go deep in, get yourself to a land trust, a
- 40:15Speaker 2: wildlife refuge area, maybe into a state park, and if
- 40:21Speaker 2: you had to a national park. But the more obscure
- 40:25Speaker 2: of an area you pick. Here in Connecticut, I mean,
- 40:29Speaker 2: we go why into Knock State Forest, Robin Swamp. Believe me,
- 40:34Speaker 2: some a handful of people go to these places and
- 40:37Speaker 2: we get crazy evidence. So what I'm saying to you is,
- 40:40Speaker 2: don't look this stuff up online. Get out there. I
- 40:43Speaker 2: don't care if you If I was in Idaho, this
- 40:47Speaker 2: would be isis okay? If I was in Montana would
- 40:51Speaker 2: be emsis. You're getting the idea, maybe you're not going
- 40:56Speaker 2: to encounter the same CRYPTI. It's the same usual animals.
- 41:01Speaker 2: I believe. I don't care. If I went to Alabama,
- 41:04Speaker 2: I would just look up I would look up my
- 41:07Speaker 2: first nation's lore. I'll go back to early encounters. I
- 41:12Speaker 2: would talk to the historians.
- 41:13Speaker 1: Bankhead man, if they're going to Alabama. In Alabama, go
- 41:17Speaker 1: to Bankhead, buddy, Bankhead State Forest, my buddy, that's where
- 41:22Speaker 1: you need to go.
- 41:22Speaker 2: Man.
- 41:23Speaker 1: I I've I got people from Jersey with dog man
- 41:26Speaker 1: encounters where they're fine. Dude. This was last week man,
- 41:29Speaker 1: Southern Jersey. Man, this guy's close to where I'm from
- 41:32Speaker 1: from Baltimore is like an hour and he was saying, yeah, man,
- 41:34Speaker 1: this thing grabbed my grab my wife, man grabbed her.
- 41:38Speaker 1: He fired four rounds off into it because she was
- 41:40Speaker 1: getting drugged down the road. Dude, you know what I mean.
- 41:43Speaker 1: So like there's the like I don't think like the
- 41:47Speaker 1: Bigfoot to kind of kind of go all over the place. Though,
- 41:49Speaker 1: see if you can follow. Sorry if you're like, I'm
- 41:53Speaker 1: just trying to point out. You were saying, like you've
- 41:55Speaker 1: the one that you've seen back, you know, a long
- 41:57Speaker 1: time ago before you got into while you were doing
- 41:59Speaker 1: your poetry. You've seen this in the middle of the city.
- 42:02Speaker 1: You know these things. These things are everywhere, and it's
- 42:06Speaker 1: just you have to kind of open your eyes and
- 42:08Speaker 1: kind of instead of being closed minded when you go
- 42:11Speaker 1: into the forest, open your eyes, open your mind, and
- 42:14Speaker 1: go in there with the positive attitude. I think they
- 42:16Speaker 1: read your intentions as well, especially when it comes to
- 42:18Speaker 1: big foot. I really think they do.
- 42:22Speaker 2: Homo sapien is the only hominid with a calcified penial gland,
- 42:28Speaker 2: the only not only that, the only animal in Earth's
- 42:32Speaker 2: history that has a calcified penial gland. What that means
- 42:36Speaker 2: is that you're in my penial gland is full of bone,
- 42:41Speaker 2: calcium years agotficially it cannot Okay, what do you think
- 42:52Speaker 2: that is? So when you are dealing with these other animals,
- 42:59Speaker 2: let's let's just say that's your whole Egyptian serpent thing, right.
- 43:05Speaker 2: That's a that's a that's a perception, that's a sense
- 43:09Speaker 2: like touch, feel, site, hearing that has been artificially blocked,
- 43:16Speaker 2: so you are not able to go in on equal
- 43:20Speaker 2: terms interesting anything like this at all. And it was
- 43:24Speaker 2: blocked for a reason. You can unblock it.
- 43:29Speaker 1: I don't know how, but I've heard, oh you can,
- 43:31Speaker 1: you can. There's possibility. It's all about knowing that and
- 43:35Speaker 1: then seeking how to unblock it. Eastern mysticism helps a
- 43:38Speaker 1: lot with that, really does certain breathing techniques. There's certain
- 43:42Speaker 1: practice and meditations and things that that actually will do that.
- 43:46Speaker 1: That's why I call it the eye of Jupiter, the
- 43:48Speaker 1: third eye, you know, opening up the sixth sense and
- 43:51Speaker 1: connecting you know what I mean, It's all about regurgitating. Basically,
- 43:55Speaker 1: I don't I don't know much, man, I don't know anything,
- 43:57Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's true, I just anything
- 44:00Speaker 1: either that's isn't it? Isn't it wonderful? Though? There's nothing
- 44:03Speaker 1: wrong with saying I don't know, is it? There's nothing
- 44:06Speaker 1: wrong with that, bro.
- 44:06Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I didn't know about you know,
- 44:09Speaker 2: the crypt that I just the mucket. I couldn't believe it.
- 44:12Speaker 2: Like last week, here I am thinking, I've studied it
- 44:15Speaker 2: all and and so what really slapped me in the
- 44:18Speaker 2: face was that they got a little town festival for
- 44:21Speaker 2: this thing? Are you kidding me? In my own state?
- 44:23Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm so I'm gonna hide.
- 44:27Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't be so I'm down here, okay, So
- 44:30Speaker 1: the Northwest Tracker, I'm down here in Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico,
- 44:34Speaker 1: so you know where I am. Okay, I'm way off
- 44:37Speaker 1: the beaten trail. I did that for a particular reason.
- 44:40Speaker 1: Asteroid Central over there. I'm an asteroid Central Mayan culture.
- 44:44Speaker 1: My girlfriend is one hundred percent my and she also
- 44:46Speaker 1: has a little bit of Cherokee blood in there possibly
- 44:48Speaker 1: and a little bit of uh, a little bit of
- 44:50Speaker 1: Chinese blood in her two you can kind of see it. Yeah, well,
- 44:54Speaker 1: she doesn't know. It's kind of hard to follow here
- 44:57Speaker 1: because in Mexico I didn't really keep track of records
- 44:59Speaker 1: like we do, kind of you know, a little later
- 45:02Speaker 1: to the party. But they're at the party now. And
- 45:05Speaker 1: it's interesting because right here she wrote, she wrote my
- 45:08Speaker 1: in cure. See if I can add this, why is it
- 45:11Speaker 1: not doing it? There we go, there we go, add
- 45:14Speaker 1: my in cure for for not seeing I wonder what
- 45:17Speaker 1: that means? What are you referring to? That's interesting because
- 45:20Speaker 1: I've been the third eye. Yeah, there you go, Thank you, buddy.
- 45:26Speaker 1: We are the eye.
- 45:26Speaker 2: We are aware.
- 45:27Speaker 1: I finally get it sitting here watching Yes man, that's
- 45:29Speaker 1: always my thing, to be aware of your surroundings. That
- 45:33Speaker 1: means all the senses open up, dude, reflect upon yourself.
- 45:37Speaker 1: The Jupiter is the largest, you know, body other than
- 45:41Speaker 1: the Sun in the Solar system, and that eye has
- 45:43Speaker 1: been going around for they think at least three hundred years.
- 45:45Speaker 1: It's been seen by Galileo and others, and it once
- 45:48Speaker 1: in a while reflects upon Earth and looks at it
- 45:50Speaker 1: like a giant eye. So it's kind of like a
- 45:52Speaker 1: couple things put together. Man. I just I enjoy talking
- 45:55Speaker 1: to people who've had experiences that I have not had.
- 45:59Speaker 1: I've had I've had paranormal experiences in my life. I'll
- 46:01Speaker 1: be actually going on the podcast later, did they talking
- 46:03Speaker 1: about it? There's somebody else wanted to be on, and
- 46:06Speaker 1: you know, I get to run into people like you
- 46:08Speaker 1: who has his own unique perspective. And that's all we're
- 46:12Speaker 1: trying to do because in the end there's there's also
- 46:14Speaker 1: cryptus like you know, like dog Man that yes, tends
- 46:18Speaker 1: to be rather aggressive from all the things that I've
- 46:21Speaker 1: been hearing, and I want, yeah.
- 46:26Speaker 2: Issues of all your cryptids.
- 46:29Speaker 1: He needs to go to He needs to go to
- 46:30Speaker 1: HR for sure.
- 46:31Speaker 2: Dude. He's no match for a black dog of Mereden. Though.
- 46:36Speaker 1: What's that, dude, what's the Black Dog of Mareton. Dude,
- 46:39Speaker 1: don't don't dog, don't don't don't invite me to a
- 46:42Speaker 1: good time to throw a grenade into my party without
- 46:44Speaker 1: me expecting some answers. What is that.
- 46:48Speaker 2: Specific to Connecticut? Okay, Meridon, Connecticuts. Let's just call it
- 46:55Speaker 2: Central Connecticut. Okay, Okay, you know, I mean it's some stuff,
- 47:00Speaker 2: but you're driving it. It's a city. But there are crazy,
- 47:05Speaker 2: crazy trails there. I love Meridan. So there are other
- 47:08Speaker 2: things called the Black Hills or the hanging Hills of Mereden.
- 47:11Speaker 2: The mountains are called Mount Lamentation, mount Misery, Dog Misery, Swamp,
- 47:17Speaker 2: the Black Hills. You get the idea black pond. Everything's there.
- 47:26Speaker 2: So there's a pretty flat range and then all of
- 47:29Speaker 2: a sudden there is these mountains let's call them mountains,
- 47:33Speaker 2: and they just jut them. Okay, they just I mean,
- 47:37Speaker 2: there's a highway that goes aby and you just see,
- 47:39Speaker 2: like there's these mountains. Now, these mountains are interesting because
- 47:43Speaker 2: they are the highest point of land on the entire
- 47:47Speaker 2: East Coast within twenty five miles of the Atlantic Ocean. Okay,
- 47:53Speaker 2: it just makes them crazy geologic, right, I got you, man,
- 47:59Speaker 2: They're construction. I mean they're built of trapstone. Trapstone, so
- 48:05Speaker 2: the cliff faces are about the size that they tend
- 48:10Speaker 2: to fall into sort of rectangular shapes, so the whole
- 48:14Speaker 2: mountain is shattered. It's constructed, it's loosely held together trap rock.
- 48:21Speaker 2: They use it for construction because you just have to
- 48:23Speaker 2: hit it and it falls into visus. These cliffs are
- 48:27Speaker 2: three to four hundred feet straight down and there's a sert.
- 48:33Speaker 2: So getting into the black dog, going way back, the
- 48:38Speaker 2: black dog of Meridon is a spectral animal, so it's
- 48:43Speaker 2: not biological, so we don't really study that too deeply.
- 48:46Speaker 2: We stay firmly in biology. But this is history of Connecticut.
- 48:54Speaker 2: So the lure is, when you're hiking these black hills,
- 48:57Speaker 2: you might see this black dog kind of like Hawker Spinel,
- 49:01Speaker 2: but just black right Friendly's wagoners tell you might see
- 49:05Speaker 2: him from a distance, but you'll see embarking him or her,
- 49:09Speaker 2: but you don't hear anything. It's really close. It could
- 49:13Speaker 2: be snowing and you're going on the same path. The
- 49:15Speaker 2: path follows these cliffs, and you could be like, all right,
- 49:20Speaker 2: well let's go see this dog. You know, there's a
- 49:21Speaker 2: lot of hikers. It's not unusual to see dogs there,
- 49:24Speaker 2: but kind of unusual. You see this fellow and there's
- 49:29Speaker 2: no footprints, there's no sounds, nothing, It just appears. And
- 49:34Speaker 2: so the lure goes as follows. The first time you
- 49:39Speaker 2: see the dog is for joy, the second time is
- 49:43Speaker 2: for sorrow, the third time is for death damn. And
- 49:50Speaker 2: there famously, you're gonna look this up online, the Black
- 49:53Speaker 2: Dog of Mirriady, and you're gonna find the history of
- 49:56Speaker 2: these biologists back in the thirties. I'm from Yale here
- 50:02Speaker 2: in Connecticut. Of course, you're a geologist nerd back in
- 50:06Speaker 2: the thirties, early thirties, so you're gonna go study these
- 50:09Speaker 2: crazy anomalous cliffs. And these two were buddies, and they
- 50:15Speaker 2: both would go separately. And one guy had seen the
- 50:19Speaker 2: dog one time, and another guy, when they went out together,
- 50:26Speaker 2: saw it for the first time. But then this guy
- 50:28Speaker 2: first fella saw it for the second time. And now
- 50:32Speaker 2: they're fully aware of this lord. This goes back to
- 50:35Speaker 2: the eighteen hundreds. This is nothing new. So they return,
- 50:41Speaker 2: all right, one guy seen it once, one guy seen
- 50:43Speaker 2: it twice. This dog appears again. They're climbing up this
- 50:48Speaker 2: mountain face and the whole trap. Rock face frumbles away.
- 50:53Speaker 2: The guy that had seen it now for the third time.
- 50:55Speaker 2: This is all documented history. Dead guy that's seen it
- 51:00Speaker 2: for the second time. He is in really bad shape.
- 51:03Speaker 2: He's messed up, takes some years to recover. Besides, on
- 51:09Speaker 2: this anniversary of this state, let's say ten years ago
- 51:11Speaker 2: by he's gonna go back and climb this up again.
- 51:14Speaker 2: And I mean you almost of course you know what's
- 51:17Speaker 2: gonna happen. Yeah, not looking good. Nothing good. Now we
- 51:24Speaker 2: don't know if he saw the dog or not. But
- 51:28Speaker 2: the cliff face fell away again and the fella died.
- 51:32Speaker 3: Damn.
- 51:33Speaker 2: We got a video. We have investigated this place. We
- 51:36Speaker 2: went back. There's a thing called Castle Craig during the
- 51:39Speaker 2: top of this mountains, this beautiful castle you can see
- 51:42Speaker 2: from Unfortunately they made a highway. Castle Craig sits on
- 51:47Speaker 2: the highest point there, Mount Lamentation, Hubbard State, a Hubbard
- 51:51Speaker 2: Park in Meriden. Cool place. We go and do an investigation,
- 51:58Speaker 2: and I'm on Castle Craig and I'm asking. Now, I
- 52:00Speaker 2: had this crazy idea I'm gonna seize this and out right,
- 52:02Speaker 2: so I'm like, okay, I'm gonna ask people if they
- 52:07Speaker 2: saw a lost dog. But before they go there. Now,
- 52:11Speaker 2: I used to live in Meredith. Oh. I lived in
- 52:14Speaker 2: Meredith in my twenties and I hiked extensively through there.
- 52:18Speaker 2: I know that place like the back of my hand.
- 52:20Speaker 2: And I did see a dog. He's all a dog
- 52:24Speaker 2: up there. Nothing bad's happened to me, So let's keep
- 52:28Speaker 2: it that way. So I return. Every time I go
- 52:30Speaker 2: back to I'm like, oh, Gret, what am I doing?
- 52:34Speaker 2: I'm now I'm thinking like, okay, we got a spectral dog.
- 52:38Speaker 2: It obviously jinxes people. What can we do? How can
- 52:42Speaker 2: we change this narrative? Well, it's it's bad. Seems to
- 52:46Speaker 2: happen in threes. So I'm like, it's a dog. What
- 52:49Speaker 2: do we do? Get this crazy? I'm gonna leave it.
- 52:52Speaker 2: Dog biscuits. I'm gonna leave it dog biscuits and three
- 52:56Speaker 2: brand new pennies. Right. So I go to this flagpole
- 53:00Speaker 2: near this castle. And this castle is just a shell, right,
- 53:03Speaker 2: so you can walk up and it's not like a
- 53:04Speaker 2: living castle. It's an ornament. But it's cool. It's built
- 53:07Speaker 2: in this ancient Scottish tradition. Some say Turkish. Okay, So
- 53:14Speaker 2: I'm there's just a flagpole there. So I'm like Okay,
- 53:16Speaker 2: I'm just gonna leave these three dog biscuits as a
- 53:18Speaker 2: gift for the black dog. And meanwhile I'm asking people. Now,
- 53:23Speaker 2: I'm like, have you seen a lost dog? And I'm
- 53:26Speaker 2: just having fun, right, I'm just not heading out, but
- 53:31Speaker 2: I'm getting all this crazy. It's like, oh yeah, I
- 53:33Speaker 2: heard about you. All these people are fascinated. So at
- 53:36Speaker 2: the top of the castle there there's a little viewing
- 53:38Speaker 2: area and it was this young lady and I said,
- 53:43Speaker 2: have you seen a lost dog? And she goes, it's
- 53:46Speaker 2: real concerned, look, you know, tell a real do gooder.
- 53:49Speaker 2: And she's like, no, have you lost your dog? And
- 53:52Speaker 2: I said kind of, And she's like, how do you
- 53:57Speaker 2: kind of lose a dog? You know? We got this
- 53:59Speaker 2: whole thing videos hysterical, but that was just humor, and
- 54:06Speaker 2: you can't kind of lose a dog, obviously, but I
- 54:08Speaker 2: was too busy laughing. We did catch this arm film.
- 54:12Speaker 2: But where I decided to leave the three dog biscuits,
- 54:15Speaker 2: this is fascinating, fascinating. Exactly at that flag pole, there's
- 54:21Speaker 2: just sort of a drop off and in a little
- 54:22Speaker 2: flat area, an unfortunate woman fell off the cliff right
- 54:30Speaker 2: at the base of that flag pole landed down on
- 54:34Speaker 2: the next level of you know, rap stone and was
- 54:40Speaker 2: messed up. I mean, she she had to go, she
- 54:45Speaker 2: had to be life start out of there. She had
- 54:48Speaker 2: real debilitating injuries, brain injuries. You know. My heart goes
- 54:52Speaker 2: out to her. Yeah, you know, I really feel badly
- 54:57Speaker 2: and that that happens a lot there on those clif
- 55:00Speaker 2: stuff just breaks away and people just stand on the cliffs.
- 55:04Speaker 2: I did it myself, but that was one week later,
- 55:10Speaker 2: and so that's a that's a history specific to Meridan.
- 55:13Speaker 2: Now within shot of that, when you're standing on those cliffs,
- 55:17Speaker 2: the next mountain peak, and mountain peaks aren't common in Connecticut.
- 55:21Speaker 2: We don't have are we have mounts there are mountains
- 55:25Speaker 2: are not The heights aren't high enough to be specified.
- 55:31Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I think it's like like two thousand
- 55:34Speaker 1: feet I think is when they considered the mountain. We
- 55:37Speaker 1: don't have any Okay.
- 55:39Speaker 2: He just get there. Mount Frazel gets there. But across
- 55:43Speaker 2: the viewing area of of of the Black Hills of
- 55:46Speaker 2: Meridin is Sleeping Giant State Park. And man, that guy
- 55:54Speaker 2: and I'm really getting into this, that guy looks exactly
- 55:59Speaker 2: like a giant sleeping on its back from that distance.
- 56:03Speaker 2: It's anatomically No, I have not investigated that place yet,
- 56:07Speaker 2: but it's certainly certainly in our targets.
- 56:10Speaker 1: It's on the it's on the to do list, it's
- 56:12Speaker 1: on the buckets, in the bucket.
- 56:13Speaker 2: List, it's on the mucket list, on the bucket list.
- 56:17Speaker 1: Oh man, there you go, anyone to joke like a true,
- 56:21Speaker 1: true stage dweller of the past. Hopefully I get you
- 56:25Speaker 1: up to do some stand up eventually, Buddy, I'm going tonight.
- 56:27Speaker 1: I'm going up to do Spanish Spanish stand up tonight.
- 56:30Speaker 1: We're gonna have some fun.
- 56:32Speaker 2: Uh, I'll forget this.
- 56:34Speaker 1: Yeah, buddy, this has been so fantastic.
- 56:37Speaker 2: Man.
- 56:37Speaker 1: I think I'm definitely going to have you back on again.
- 56:39Speaker 1: I think I'm going to do a separate episode where
- 56:42Speaker 1: I do an episode live every week, kind of do
- 56:44Speaker 1: a regular episode. You're such a wealth acknowledgement. And uh,
- 56:48Speaker 1: where can people find your YouTube channel? Where can they
- 56:52Speaker 1: contact you if they want to talk with you or
- 56:54Speaker 1: maybe go and investigate some areas where they're having some activity.
- 56:57Speaker 1: How can people reach out to you?
- 57:00Speaker 2: You see right here, ce Sis. We are on every
- 57:03Speaker 2: single you know platform there is social media, Facebook, YouTube,
- 57:10Speaker 2: ccis connecticutcryptids dot Com. Just reach out to us, but
- 57:16Speaker 2: you know, message us directly. Go right to our Facebook
- 57:19Speaker 2: page and anybody that wants to talk with us if
- 57:22Speaker 2: you're in the area. If you're in Connecticut, messages you
- 57:24Speaker 2: want to join us, You're welcome. We are very open
- 57:29Speaker 2: to the public and what we do. If you have
- 57:32Speaker 2: a report in Connecticut, send it to us. You know,
- 57:36Speaker 2: we will check it out. We we thrive. We we
- 57:39Speaker 2: just love reports. We get a lot of them. State
- 57:43Speaker 2: Forest right now is a hotspot.
- 57:46Speaker 1: Awesome. Yeah, to be Just to give you guys a
- 57:48Speaker 1: little heads up, I actually reached out to reach out
- 57:50Speaker 1: to Callin through Facebook and it worked well. He's very tentative. Uh,
- 57:54Speaker 1: he was. We had a little problem with the link
- 57:56Speaker 1: for a reason, but he was. He's like I'm here,
- 57:58Speaker 1: and I'm like where, But he came here. Dude. He's
- 58:01Speaker 1: an upfront gentleman. He's doing wonderful things out there.
- 58:05Speaker 2: Uh.
- 58:05Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure to having you on tonight, friend,
- 58:08Speaker 1: and I will be reaching out to you again. People
- 58:09Speaker 1: are asking for you to come back on already. Lookt
- 58:11Speaker 1: a great speaker. Can't wait to have you back on. Man,
- 58:14Speaker 1: there's so many things we didn't get in. We didn't
- 58:17Speaker 1: get into maybe what one tenth of.
- 58:19Speaker 2: One hand of it. We didn't get into the mantis
- 58:22Speaker 2: man sightings here, oh wow, Dudley Town. We got a
- 58:26Speaker 2: lot still to cover, the black ness monster, Plumb Island.
- 58:30Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot here, There's a lot.
- 58:33Speaker 1: Right right right, definitely, So we'll do this again for sure,
- 58:36Speaker 1: if you if you're willing man, great, thank you, al
- 58:38Speaker 1: absolutely all right, buddy, I'll see you around and I'll
- 58:41Speaker 1: catch you later, okay.
- 58:43Speaker 2: So, thank you. And it was a real pleasure to
- 58:46Speaker 2: be in the eye of Jupiter. Tom You're a great host,
- 58:48Speaker 2: your audience is wonderful. And if they have any questions
- 58:51Speaker 2: after this, please they want a network with us by
- 58:54Speaker 2: all means. And don't forget to get your friend to
- 58:58Speaker 2: that five hundred.
- 59:00Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're gonna get there tonight. Man, Thank you
- 59:01Speaker 1: so much for stopping by. And I will and I
- 59:03Speaker 1: will and I will write you soon. Okay, absolutely, friend.
- 59:07Speaker 1: Nice nice to meet you too. All right, So that
- 59:10Speaker 1: was wonderful. Colin Haskins from the Ceasis I think you
- 59:13Speaker 1: called it. So the ccis very knowledgeable tonight, a lot
- 59:17Speaker 1: of great stuff I wanted to pull. Normally, I just
- 59:19Speaker 1: go with my guests out together, but I want to
- 59:21Speaker 1: make sure that direct traffic over right after this show
- 59:24Speaker 1: in about approximately a half hour, about twenty eight minutes,
- 59:28Speaker 1: we will be I will be on with Daniel Kahoun
- 59:32Speaker 1: from the Magical Journey podcast. Let's get him. He needs
- 59:35Speaker 1: I think last time I checked, which was today, seven
- 59:38Speaker 1: more subscribers that get him to five hundred. He's been
- 59:40Speaker 1: doing this for a year, and I'm gonna be on
- 59:42Speaker 1: the show and we're gonna have a lot of fun
- 59:44Speaker 1: to night. So I hope to catch you guys over there.
- 59:46Speaker 1: So remember, let me go over and make sure I
- 59:48Speaker 1: get my okay media as depth. Okay, there we go.
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