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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, December 14 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, December four team. This is Jet Bars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour, Jaguars Happy Hours, brought to you by Jet
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  Speaker 1: Home Loans and now a guy who's finally figured out
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  Speaker 1: a way to get a word in edgewise. Jay Peace, Shadrack,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, and that is because we
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  Speaker 1: are Busselly Free tonight, j P. Shadrick, Pete Friscoe, CBS
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  Speaker 1: Sports Senior writer. Well, Tony will be with us in
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  Speaker 1: the second hour. We have one hour to break it
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  Speaker 1: all down. Here's what's coming up on the show today,
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  Speaker 1: Me and Pete. Pete and Me like the old days,
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  Speaker 1: we have a Titan's Jaguars review. Jags lost thirty one
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  Speaker 1: to ten Gardner Minshew. The second will start next week
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  Speaker 1: against the Baltimore Ravens. We'll get into that decision from
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  Speaker 1: head coach Doug Marrone. Tony was silly at five o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: Your social media questions in the second hour, but not
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  Speaker 1: so powerful. Draft rankings in draft order, and we'll go
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  Speaker 1: around the National Football League and week number fourteen. Mr Prisco,
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  Speaker 1: good afternoon, What is up? Jt uh. This might be
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  Speaker 1: the best hour of radio we've had in Gosh since
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  Speaker 1: be Sully was in Europe. I think probably then. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean this hearkens back to the days when I
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  Speaker 1: was across the street over here and used to call
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  Speaker 1: into your old radio show when you hosted. Remember, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: hey j P, give us an update on the Suns
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  Speaker 1: and on they got going on. I can tell me,
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  Speaker 1: you can tell me how good the pregame meal is.
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  Speaker 1: I used to ask you always about the pregame meal.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, the late Great Beet Road Chicken Dinners, which
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  Speaker 1: is no longer was no longer with you, Jackson, I know,
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  Speaker 1: I know. So yeah, so this will be fun tonight,
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  Speaker 1: looking forward to it. And this is maybe but you
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  Speaker 1: know what it's all he's doing. You know, he wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: say what he was doing. Maybe he's formulating his plan
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  Speaker 1: take over the Maybe he's doing that, or or he's
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  Speaker 1: on you know, about the sixteenth hole at Sawgrass, maybe
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  Speaker 1: one or the other. Whatever way, we're you know what JP,
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  Speaker 1: whatever he's doing, if it's that important, we're just gonna
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  Speaker 1: say he was on the sixteen to at right, because
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  Speaker 1: that's not a bad place to be. Actually, maybe he's
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  Speaker 1: got to figure it out and we don't, Pete, we're
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  Speaker 1: the ones doing the show. I don't know the team's
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  Speaker 1: won in twelve now, they've dropped twelve in a row.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, lost to the Titans. And you know, it
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  Speaker 1: felt like this was the measuring stick game because the
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  Speaker 1: Titans are the team, the first place team in the
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  Speaker 1: ANFC South, the division leaders, They're the standard right now. Um,
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  Speaker 1: this team is so far away the Jaguars are from
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  Speaker 1: what the Titans are doing that they don't even make
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  Speaker 1: measuring six that long in my opinion. I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: was just a totally different looking football team yesterday. Yeah, look,
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars aren't a very good team right now, and
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  Speaker 1: nobody can dispute that. Nobody will argue that. And they
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  Speaker 1: can't compete with good teams. It's probably not going to
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  Speaker 1: compete next week with the Ravens either, And so this
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  Speaker 1: is not about the rest of this year. It's about
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  Speaker 1: moving forward after the season and and finding the right fits,
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  Speaker 1: and finding the right coach and finding the right general manager.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, look, it makes sense to go explore
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  Speaker 1: all options and and you know, filling that position or
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  Speaker 1: those positions, and you know, you you saw there was
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  Speaker 1: a report today Albert Berre mentioned Urban Meyer. I had
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  Speaker 1: heard that I mentioned that to you this morning before
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  Speaker 1: I even saw that, and that is one option out there.
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  Speaker 1: And I think the Jaguars are indeed interested in him,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll we'll talk to him down the road or
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  Speaker 1: have maybe they've even talked to him. So again, explore
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  Speaker 1: all options and and try and figure out who the
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  Speaker 1: best people to run that franchise is. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: was a little shocked yesterday when I heard the report
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  Speaker 1: that Marone was going to come back or could come act.
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  Speaker 1: That was a weird to believe that. Yeah, wasn't it was,
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  Speaker 1: And the way it was kind of I wouldn't back
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  Speaker 1: and kind of looked at the wording a little later
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  Speaker 1: and it said, hey, some people around the league think
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  Speaker 1: that Maron has a chance to come back. It was
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  Speaker 1: kind of a loose report. It wasn't like, hey, sources
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  Speaker 1: say this is happening and we all know he's staying
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  Speaker 1: through the end of the year and that's already been announced. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I and and I saw Jeane for Nette disputed it
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  Speaker 1: as well just now on Twitter said some source told
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  Speaker 1: him that's not true. I don't believe it either. I
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  Speaker 1: just don't. I think they're gonna clean house. I think
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  Speaker 1: they're getting rid of everybody. And this is no slight
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  Speaker 1: at Doug, but you know, Doug's hands were kind of
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  Speaker 1: tied beyond his back. There's not a lot of talent
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  Speaker 1: on that team. But changes have to come, and it
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  Speaker 1: needs to be a full scale changes across the board.
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  Speaker 1: It just can't be you know, one guy here and
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  Speaker 1: then maybe you keep the coach and you change the
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  Speaker 1: general It can't work that way. It has to be
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  Speaker 1: the general manager and the coach working together in sync.
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  Speaker 1: You want your guys, they want to work together. I
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  Speaker 1: just can't imagine Doug Moron staying in that position now.
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  Speaker 1: If where things happened in the NFL, absolutely we've seen
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  Speaker 1: him happen, but I can't see it happening in this
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  Speaker 1: case at all. We'll break this down a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more as we go tonight, Pete, and maybe throw some
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  Speaker 1: names out there if you if you have some others
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  Speaker 1: that could be options, that will get into that. But
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  Speaker 1: because we must, let's review yesterday's game. The Jaguars thirty
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  Speaker 1: one to ten uh and Mike Glennan made the start
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  Speaker 1: and so did Derrick Henry on the other side for
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee went over two hundred yards for the fourth time
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  Speaker 1: in his career, the second time against the Jaguars in
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  Speaker 1: his career two d fifteen yesterday, and they seemed relatively
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  Speaker 1: easy for the most part. They the defense had real issues.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start on the offensive side though, and there was
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback change in the third quarter. Mike Glennan started
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  Speaker 1: the game and went two and a half quarters with
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  Speaker 1: only eighty five passing yards, so Gardner Minshew was brought
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  Speaker 1: and off the bench. He did lead a touchdown drive.
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  Speaker 1: James Robinson had a big run on that drive as well.
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  Speaker 1: There were a couple of other times where they ended
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  Speaker 1: short in the red zone. And then after the game,
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  Speaker 1: Gardner Meantshew obviously pretty fired up to be back on
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  Speaker 1: the field. Uh. Yeah, it's so great to be back
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  Speaker 1: in there. You know. It's something, um that I really missed.
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  Speaker 1: I missed, Uh, you know, comaraderie with the guys, im
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  Speaker 1: as being out there. Um, you know, as much as
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  Speaker 1: you're always a part of the team, it's just something different,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when you really are out there with the guys,
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  Speaker 1: and that was it's always special. Um. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: thought we got in a rhythm. He just kind of
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  Speaker 1: up and down. Um, you know, I think we can
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  Speaker 1: finish drives better. Gardner Menshew after the game yesterday, Pete
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  Speaker 1: and now a fourth quarterback change for Doug Moron this year,
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  Speaker 1: they're going back to Gardner Minshew moving forward, at least
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  Speaker 1: this week in Baltimore. Would you what do you think
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  Speaker 1: of all the quarterback play yesterday? It was terrible. You've
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  Speaker 1: him to expect in Jacksonville. Look, Mike Lennon was bad.
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  Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew wasn't much better when he went in there
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  Speaker 1: in garbage time, and that's essentially what it was. He
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  Speaker 1: did give him a little life on the one touchdown
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  Speaker 1: Dry but let me come on that that nobody's playing
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  Speaker 1: in that situation. It was garbage time. They're not good
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  Speaker 1: at quarterback period, end of story. Jake Luton not good,
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  Speaker 1: Mike Lennon not good, Gardner Minshew not good. So what
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  Speaker 1: do you do? You try a new guy this week? Um,
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  Speaker 1: you bring back Gardner Minshew and let him start against
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  Speaker 1: the Ravens. But look, doesn't matter. Does it really matter
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  Speaker 1: to Jap None of these guys are any good. It's
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  Speaker 1: a bad it's a bad position on a bad football team,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a big part of the reason why they're
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  Speaker 1: a bad team. There's all these you know, everybody's talking about.
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  Speaker 1: All the crowd was channing for Minshew yesterday and all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff, and there's controversy who's gonna start. There's no
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  Speaker 1: such thing as a quarterback controversy when you're born in
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  Speaker 1: twelve and all three aren't playing, well, that just doesn't
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  Speaker 1: exist in my book. Well, let's put it this way.
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  Speaker 1: Which of those three guys is going to be on
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  Speaker 1: the roster next year or any of them? And maybe,
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  Speaker 1: I mean depends on the GM, right, I mean, who
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  Speaker 1: does he want? I mean, does he think Luton maybe
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  Speaker 1: has the bigger arm and as a younger player and
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  Speaker 1: he's inexpensive, maybe you keep them around. I mean, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I outlined it last year. If last week, if they
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  Speaker 1: draft number two, they draft Justin Fields, They're not going
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  Speaker 1: to have Gardner Minshew be the other quarterback in the room.
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  Speaker 1: It's just not gonna work. Gardner thinks he should be playing,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't think that he'd be a good mentor
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  Speaker 1: for Justin Fields, So take that out of the equation.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Glennon. That just depends on what they want in
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  Speaker 1: their backup quarterback. Luton has the big arm, but he
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  Speaker 1: didn't show very well when he played. So I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure any of them are going to be in the room.
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  Speaker 1: And and the best guest you made it would probably
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  Speaker 1: be Luton. He would be the guests to be the
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  Speaker 1: backup quarterback. But you need a veteran, I think if
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  Speaker 1: you've got to, if you have an older quarterback, you
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  Speaker 1: have to have a veteran behind. I mean a younger quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: You have to have a veteran behind. You need. You
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  Speaker 1: need a chat hitting to your parts. You know, a
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  Speaker 1: chad hitting to your Blake Portles is what you need. Correct,
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly what you need. And so I don't think
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  Speaker 1: any of them are gonna be on the roster next year,
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  Speaker 1: or at least suiting up. You know, it depends on
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  Speaker 1: what the rosters look like in terms of practice squad
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  Speaker 1: and everything else. But I don't think they're gonna in
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  Speaker 1: the rules, what the rules are. I don't think any
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  Speaker 1: of them gonna be suiting up next year. I really don't.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're all gone. And you know, people channing
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  Speaker 1: for Minshew, why what does he bring? What is he
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  Speaker 1: better than those guys? No? Are they any even better
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  Speaker 1: than the other No? And so does he bring the
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  Speaker 1: excitement when he's moving around and leaving clean pockets with
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  Speaker 1: two hands on the ball? Did you know? Did you know?
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  Speaker 1: Do you notice that now? Not a lot of all
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  Speaker 1: the time. Man, it's it's all, that's all I see.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's frustrating. And I was sitting there watching the
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  Speaker 1: game in my studio with a couple of guys that
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  Speaker 1: we're sitting there and I'm like, this is maddening watching
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  Speaker 1: him leave clean pockets. He leaves them and there's no
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  Speaker 1: reason to leave them, and it's just it's just it's
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  Speaker 1: just amazing. And I think, what did he have a
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  Speaker 1: What was the run he had? It was about fifteen
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  Speaker 1: yard run up the middle? Fourteen yard runners? Yeah, there
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  Speaker 1: was one of those, and I keep finished with what
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  Speaker 1: twenty something yards rushing on that run? Okay, but did
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  Speaker 1: you see the pockets step up and fire a shot
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  Speaker 1: to somebody? And I hadn't watch the tape. I bet
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  Speaker 1: there was somebody open and he didn't fire it to him. Now,
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  Speaker 1: now you know that's the thing. How far down the
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  Speaker 1: field was this guy you think was open? Well, that's
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  Speaker 1: the question if and I gotta see it. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: see it on the tape. But I'll look at the
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  Speaker 1: tape and see and it's maddening to be because it
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  Speaker 1: happens all the time to a lot of these young quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 1: And you heard the game last night. You know Josh Allen,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't run as much. Well, that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's better to move and throw than it is to
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  Speaker 1: move and run. Your quarterback, you're supposed to move to throw.
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  Speaker 1: And so I think from that standpoint, Minshew leaves far
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  Speaker 1: too many clean pockets. And if I was an offensive lineman,
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  Speaker 1: I would hate that. Uh. And I think his receiver's
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  Speaker 1: pout when he's in the game. I don't think they
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  Speaker 1: he throws them open at all. And I think you
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  Speaker 1: can see that in their body language. And I we've
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  Speaker 1: got some tweets I think today about people wondering about
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  Speaker 1: DJ Chark his body language. And I didn't notice it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, did you notice it? Was it bad?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't notice it that much yesterday. I mean I
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  Speaker 1: noticed it earlier in the season a little bit. You
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  Speaker 1: can sense a little frustration. Yesterday in particular, it didn't
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  Speaker 1: stand out to me. Maybe it showed and I just
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  Speaker 1: didn't see it. But on the TV copy at least
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  Speaker 1: I didn't see, and you know, I'm gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: go back and watch it when I watched and see.
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  Speaker 1: But remember too, like he's had, he's had a tough
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  Speaker 1: season two. He's been banged up a little bit, Chark
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  Speaker 1: has and then all that combined with the frustration of
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  Speaker 1: the offense this year, it's just a tough year for Chark.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything bad going on with Chark.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's a guy you want around here. It's not.
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  Speaker 1: It's just he's frustrated and understandably so it's much like
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  Speaker 1: the Allen Robinson you know, curse when robins down to
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  Speaker 1: play Blake Bortles and who else do you play Blake?
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  Speaker 1: And then he had Nick Foles and he has Trabiskie.
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  Speaker 1: He's a good, really good receiver. Needn't get to play
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  Speaker 1: with the good quarterback. That's frustrating. Think about Shark. Look
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  Speaker 1: who he's played with, he played with? What Bordles was?
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  Speaker 1: Did he have Boardles right? Yeah? And Bowles mine and
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  Speaker 1: these kind of guys this year it's frustrating. It's frustrating.
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  Speaker 1: I understand it's frustration. I don't understand low thing. If
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  Speaker 1: that's the case. And people saw that. I didn't see it,
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  Speaker 1: but I understand the frustration. Yeah, and obviously we haven't
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  Speaker 1: been able to talk to DJ. He has not been
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  Speaker 1: out there in the press area, in the in the
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  Speaker 1: virtual world, I guess after games. So we'd love to
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure at some point here from DJ over the
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  Speaker 1: next few weeks, to see how you like. Who do
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  Speaker 1: they make available after the game? And I saw Minshew
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  Speaker 1: was available, but who else? Thence you? I saw Shoulbert
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  Speaker 1: on the screen, I saw James Robinson because he surpassed
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  Speaker 1: a thousand yards. So it's a handful of guys, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: depending on how you. I just don't know how you
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  Speaker 1: could cover a team right now. Yeah, we talked about Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it'd be so hard. And because I'd go to the
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  Speaker 1: wide receivers and say, hey, what do you think of
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  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks? And you have a story. They can't throw
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  Speaker 1: me the ball them they're all bad. Let's hear from
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  Speaker 1: I'd be curious, does anybody think Minsho is good? Does anybody?
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  Speaker 1: I mean seriously, he's not. Apparently some folks in the
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  Speaker 1: stands did yesterday. Wow, I don't get it. Yeah, let's
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  Speaker 1: hear from head coach Doug Marone today on a conference
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  Speaker 1: call with the media, explaining why Gardner Minshoe next week
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  Speaker 1: in Baltimore. Yeah, I mean, I mean that comes into play,
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  Speaker 1: you know, extending plays and being you know, being able
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  Speaker 1: to make plays on his feet and you know, um,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's you know, that's that's what we're looking for.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, someone I can do it and you know, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Mike's gonna sit back there and we haven't
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  Speaker 1: been you know, doing a great job and anything. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's why we are hitting, you know, with with
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  Speaker 1: our record the way it is. So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: Head coach Doug Marone today discussing some of the reasons
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  Speaker 1: why Gardner Minshew last yesterday eighteen thirty one had thirty
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  Speaker 1: one attempts. They were down so big they had to
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  Speaker 1: throw it all over the yard yesterday and you know,
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  Speaker 1: going back to earlier in the year, that's not the
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  Speaker 1: formula for success for yeah, And it was just it
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  Speaker 1: was on the even period. It was I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: numbers looked better than the game. Let's put it that way.
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  Speaker 1: Eighteen thirty one for one seventy eight doesn't look awful,
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  Speaker 1: but he didn't look that good, right, right, So um,
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  Speaker 1: there you have it. First appearance since week seven, before
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  Speaker 1: the bye week. We'll come back in a moment. We've
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  Speaker 1: got plenty of head Peete, we have to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars defense. It was a rough day at the
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  Speaker 1: office yesterday. You can still see Derrick Henry putting footprints
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  Speaker 1: on their on their helmets and their their jerseys running
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  Speaker 1: over him. It was bad. That was bad. Well, we'll
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  Speaker 1: see how bad when we come back. We are off
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  Speaker 1: and running. The second hour, we'll have your social questions.
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  Speaker 1: big reason why is the performance of Derrick Henry Yesterday
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  Speaker 1: in his career, and yesterday it was pretty easy for him. Pete,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: and didn't he have a long run call back to
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  Speaker 1: he did? There were a couple, I think, in fact,
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  Speaker 1: had he had those runs in there. They might have
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  Speaker 1: left him in. Yeah, and they did take him out
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  Speaker 1: back in and get the two d What I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: figure out was early in the game. Why wasn't he
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: in on the fourth and one? That was a weird one.
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  Speaker 1: That was a really mean Sometimes these coaches outthink themselves.
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  Speaker 1: I don't get it. But he looked The defense is bad.
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  Speaker 1: They were blocked, the had a ton every time he
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  Speaker 1: got the ball, there was space and sometimes there was
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  Speaker 1: giant cavities in that defense. I mean, just whatever he
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: wanted to do, he could do, and once he gets
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  Speaker 1: ahead of steam, forget about it. JP he's done. You
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  Speaker 1: And they did none of that. Every single time it
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  Speaker 1: looked like he had space to run and maneuver and
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: start running over people. So it's a bad defensive performance.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: There was the talk going into the game feat where
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: they were discussing uh, the coaching staff and players. Defensive
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: players were saying, oh, we're adding time in practice this
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: week to talk about stiff arms, and how do you
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: defend against the stiff arm. You chop it down your
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  Speaker 1: really matter if you're five yards away from the guy
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: and can't get to him. No, Well, once he gets
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: ahead of steam, going forget about it. He's gonna he's
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: gonna run three. And here we're looking at some of
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  Speaker 1: these runs. Look at that hole. Look at that hole,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: and then of course you know, the safety takes a
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: terrible angle and there has no change. It's it's just
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I could have run through that hole. There
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: were a couple of their holes. And I'm not exaggerating.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: There were a couple of those holes in that game
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  Speaker 1: where we could look at that there's nobody there. That's
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: just bad gap football. Somebody, somebody just messed up their
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: gap discipline right there because he ran right through him.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: That's not like the offensive lines mauling up front or anything.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're just blocking the guy on the left
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and he runs to the right. That was it were
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: run that play again because where the heck on the lineback?
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I think that was. Was that the play where they
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  Speaker 1: shifted last moment before and then he ran through. I
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  Speaker 1: think it was there was like a late shift on
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: defense the secondary guys around. We didn't see the safety
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: what's his name winged. Well, Okay, let's see Miles gets blocked.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: He runs into a gap and gets blocked by the
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: right tackle. So he got somebody didn't hold that gap.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: If he's coming into that that gap that he blitz
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: into what you can see him he's running in there,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: somebody's got to have gap discipline. Oh it's the and
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: will washed down. Okay, yeah, you can see it. Wat's
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: the Wat's the right Jason gets moved. Yeah, Jason gets
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: washed down. That that's the problem right there. We figured
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: it out, weeds it. Yeah, he looked he actually was
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: a little bit better yesterday. I thought he showed some
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: life and and and look, you're looking for positive signs
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: from Jason, but he did a little bit more yesterday.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: That was one good sign. But as a defense, they
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: were terrible. Oh yeah, bad day overall at the office yesterday.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Another guy that played well. Obviously, Miles Jack had a
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: bunch of tackles yesterday. But Joe Giles Harris continues to
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: bring some statistics to the table. Here. Five tackles in
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: yesterday's game. He's a first year player out of Duke,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: and he had a sack in yesterday's game too, So
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I mean the guy is the last couple of weeks
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: starting to put up some numbers. That's a good sign
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: for him. You know, he's a relative unknown. We haven't
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: really heard a lot of his name over the last
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: couple of seasons. But hey, good for him. He's standing
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: out a little bit. Yeah, where did he come from?
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: He was an undrafted guy last year? I know, But
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: what I mean he hadn't been playing at all until
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, right right, And they've had
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: so many injuries at that strong side linebacker that now
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Joe's getting a chance on defense. He started yesterday's game.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: In fact, when they actually made some plays, he actually
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: looked like he was a productive player. I mean, it
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: was it was good to see. You know, some of
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: those young players. Look, they're they're okay, But the problem
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: doesn't playing too many snaps. They're on the field too much.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: They should be rotational guys, and you're asking too much
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: of them and they're just not good enough right now. Um,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: you know, you look at the team, but that that group,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: read the starting lineup from yet and try and peg
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: how many of those guys are gonna be starting next year?
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: All right, here's the rant starters from yesterday's lineup next year.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: On defense, here we go the starting line up for
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: your Jacksonville Jaguars in Week fourteen against the Tennessee Titan.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Defensive lineman Dawn Smoot, nose tackle Daniel Aqually. No defensive
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: tackle Doug Coston maybe probably not though defensive end Adam Gotsis.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: No weak side linebacker Miles jack Middle linebacker Joe Shobert.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Maybe the linebacker Joe Giles Harris. No cornerback Sydney Jones
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: the fourth maybe, but why did he only play thirty
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: five snaps? That was there? I didn't see an injury.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't see him. I didn't see it yesterday either
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: on on the injury thing. So maybe for him free
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: safety Jared Wilson, maybe strong safety Josh Jones. Cornerback Tray hurt.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: And by the way, did he get hurt because he
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: didn't play very snaps? I think yeah, he got banged
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: up yesterday. He left after halftime, he came back in
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: and then early in the second half they ruled him.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Answer for him is no, Okay, Herndon corner Maybe there's
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: not a lot of yeses. There's how many yes is?
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: There's one yes, Miles, that's it. The only yes, says
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: got three more years of his deal. It doesn't. But
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: you don't play a guy just for the sake of
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: playing him. I mean, what if else is gonna put
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: it out there? What if they change? What if the
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: new coaches staff comes out and they changed to a
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: three four scheme? Can he handled playing in a three
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: three four scheme? Not a big guy? Miles isn't a
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: big guy either, but he's more of a thumper than
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Show is, right, So, I mean there's a lot of things. Miles,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: for sure, he's the only one now Sydney Jones. If
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: he played like Sydney Jones earlier in the year, then
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I think he would be a candidate. But can you
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: count on that. I mean, the inconsistency and the injuries
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: have always been there, so's there's uncertainty there as well.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: But of all the guys that were on the field
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: starting that game, the only one that you can say
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: definitely definitely that will start. Jack. That's just that's that's
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of work to be done in the off
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: season for the general manager. I mean, you're you're always
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: talking about the quarterback and getting the offense going and everything,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: But you gotta stop some guys. How many guys that
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: would start next year or now on injured reserve or
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: on or out with injury? Oh, there's so many, right,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I mean maybe allent one. There's another one, so there's two.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Let me go to the actual injured reserve right now
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: and I'll pull it up. Is three. Yeah, that's right,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: that's right. Um, okay, let me go through the list here.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Let me get to the list standby, Here we go.
• 26:42
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• 26:49
  Speaker 1: then Ellison, Davon Hamilton's. Yes, there's another one too. That's
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: but three, right, that's Captain Miles says, plus two others
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Dick Hamilton's and Josh Allen. That's three that would definitely
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: start next year. D J. Hayden, No, c. J. Henderson, Yes,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: there's four. Leon Jacobs No, Lambeau doesn't count norwell. Um
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: maybe Josh Oliver tied in. Haven't seen any of him?
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Who the hell knows you know about him? He hasn't play. Um.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: A bunch of defensive guys as well as Russell, we
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: haven't seen much of. No ter starter Daniel Thomas. Maybe, yeah,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: he flashed. But but there's four definites. Four. So if
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: you're a new GM and you're coming in here, you
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: and you have to find starters, quality starters. Now, Costin
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: might be one of those guys. He might be on
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: like if he played the three four, he could be
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: one of the big ends or one of the ends
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the down both you know, tackle end slash guy by
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Hamilton's Costin and what and you need another body over there?
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: And then you stand up Alan and chas On and
• 28:08
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• 28:12
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• 28:15
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• 28:21
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• 28:23
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• 28:26
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  Speaker 1: How many guys that started yesterday would be starters next season?
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  Speaker 1: We can play the same game on the offensive side,
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  Speaker 1: and of course they played two different quarterbacks yesterday. It
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  Speaker 1: we can go down the list. You just want to
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: go down the list here, I mean, let's start, by
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: the way. One quick thing about James Robinson. The kids
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: a phenomenal running back. Phenomenal He reminds me again, I
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: say it all the time. He does run like Emmett Smith.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: He doesn't have great speed, but he knows how to
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: make people miss. He knows how to, you know, give
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a small target and turn his body.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: And I just every time he runs and there's a flag,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: I see the frustration all over his face. Yeah, how
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: many times has that happened to him this year? Where
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: he's had a nice run or a touchdown and had
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: a call back for a flag numerous times, so many times.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: And obviously yesterday he's a building block and a great
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: player to have on that team. The guy yesterday go
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: again had twelve negative rushes all year. He had too
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: early in the game. You could tell that the Titans
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: were not going to let him get rolling early in
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: that game yesterday, and they did a pretty good job
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: of keeping him and check a lot of that day
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: at forty seven yards of his day in the fourth
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: quarter and in that one run his longest run of
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: the year. But early, um, they knocked him down in
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: the backfield a couple of times. All right, So obviously
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: that's one guy that would start next year. By the way,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Leonard for Nette was a healthy scratch yesterday. What's that about? Um,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: you can only imagine. I don't know. They didn't really say.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I didn't hear anything about that, but I mean you
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: go from a guy who's been playing to healthy scratch.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Something's up right. Well, I mean it didn't hurt him.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: They won beat the Vikings. No, but he hasn't played
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: very well either. He's you know, he isn't very good.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: That's an issue, Yes, that is an issue, so produces
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars front office has taken over the years, and
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: some of it rightfully. So they got that one right.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: That was the right call, that was the right drafting him.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: They got that one wrong, but get him out of here, absolutely,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: and and it took this training camp to do it.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I mean that's what they saw it. They Doug Moron
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: said it. Hey, we're no no numbers, no names on
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: the jerseys. That's as cliche as it gets, but that's
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: what it was. It was the performance during training camp
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: for James Robinson that said, you know what, we can
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: get rid of our first round, top five draft pick
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: running Bank. That's pretty bold. Well they should have got
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: rid of him last year, but that's a whole another story. Um, okay,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: so let's go James Robinson's one. Obviously one. Let me
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: go through the starting line up yesterday. Feet all right, Um,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: there's one. We'll start with the skill guys, then wide
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: receivers d J. Chark yes, Leviscus Chernault. Yes. They started
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: with two tight ends yesterday, by the way, end, so
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: put the third receiver in there. So Cole no mean
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: he'll be a backup. He won't be a starter effort
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: tight end. No, that face painful. Pete. Yeah, I think
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: they'll find a tight end in the drafts Florida quarterback obviously, No,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: we've gone through that. How many we have so far?
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: We have recounting Robinson chart and all right, so that's three.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Let's go to the offensive line. This is an interesting
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson left tackle. I'm gonna say no, I don't
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna be there. I'm leaning with you, and
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: you know if you get all argue when we get
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: when he gets in there, because he always takes up
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: for the left tackle. I swear to god, JP, I
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: could put a helmet on you and stick you at
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: left tackle and he'd defend you. And I'm a stepending
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: top over there. There's no way I'm blocking it. But
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: he defended Luke Jokel. That's been adopted in me Ben
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Bartch left guard. Yes, I think he's gonna be a
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: starter next year. They've been talking to him up the
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. I think he's I think and
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: I thought he did okay yesterday. I thought he was better,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: and you know, Baseilli picks that kid apart for some reason.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I think he's been better and I think he will
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: start at left guard because I think they're gonna let
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Norwell go. Even you know you don't have to let
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Norwell go. But if you have a guy who can
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: go in there and play, and isn't the drop off
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: isn't that much? Why not play him? And don't you
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: think that that that makes sense? Sure? Absolutely right, you
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: save some cash, get the guy in there. You still
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: are effective. And is that the same argument at center?
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Tyler Shatley started yesterday? And Shatley wasn't awful either. I
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: didn't just from the TV tape and I haven't watched
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: the All twenty two tape, but he didn't look awful either.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, look, Linda is a better player
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: than Shatley, but it's not that much different. You can't
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: get rid of all of them. No, I'm not gonna.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, personally, if it was my team, I might
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: consider getting rid of all of them because I don't
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: want why just for the an Tonio always goes, oh,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: you gotta have lineman in front of that young quarterback.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: What if they're not good? Yeah, get some better lineman, right,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: if there's somebody, But it relates to dam Robinson I look,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: you could get by with Norwell and and and and
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Linda coming back because they're not. They're not. They've played okay,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: they've been solid. Cam Robinson hasn't played to a new
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: new contract that will pay him eighteen million a year. Right,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. That's it's a contract. Do you expect
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: to play to be at its best this year? And
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: if this is the best, it's not like the contract
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: year where he focused on everything and got himself in
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: the tip shop tip top shape and he was ready
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: to go, and this is the best, then you're not
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: paying that. That's right. A J. Cannit right guard. I
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: think he comes back and starts. He's actually played pretty
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: well this year. A J. And Juan Taylor right tackle.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I think he's back. Yeah, he's coming back, but he
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: needs to pick it up. You know. I usually don't
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: criticize the coaching staff for guys, but that line hasn't
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: gotten that much better. He hasn't. He's regressed, and that's
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: a concern. When you have young players who regressed, that's
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: a major concern. So there you have it. That's the
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: starting lineup from yesterday, and there's a handful of guys
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: on I our Andre normal Well could be back on
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: the practice field this week. So how many definite do
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: we have? We had Robinson, Chark and Chal It's not
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: a definite starter either. So Robinson Chark I think he is, though, Pete,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah they targeted him, but what they
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: target him a bunch of times bunch yesterday. Yeah, he
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: was all over the place. I think you lined up
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: in the backfield a couple of times as well. Yeah,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: he'll probably be Chart eleven targets. So Charch Chenal, Robinson, Taylor,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: it's four, it's four and or Linder and Norwell I think. Okay,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: so four or five, right, that's it. That's a lot
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: of work to be done too. It's a lot of gus.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: How many draft picks they have, next ton of draft
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: picks and you have a ton of money, right, but
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: those guys are going to come in right away, I
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: mean the draft picks. It takes time for rookies, even
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: first round picks to get right sometimes. Yeah, but okay,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: let's look around the league. That Beckton's playing pretty well,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: really well, but there's a high picks to Beckton for
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: the Jets. Andrew Thomas got better than got worse yesterday. Um,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Wills is playing pretty good for the Browns. I mean
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: you can find, you can find left tackle and and
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: put them in there and play him. I mean the jaguary,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: how much cap room will they have. I'm just looking
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: at it, just quickly, looking at two thousand and twenty
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: one caps because Buck told us on Wednesday he feels
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: like million. Now yeah, m hmm, that's healthy. It's still healthy. Day.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: He said that tackles pretty deep this year in the draft.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: There's some tackles. There are some tackles. Yes, seventy seven
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: million dollars in cap space though, And if you didn't
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: bring Norwell and linderback, you create more. Not I don't
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: know how much I got to do the calculating, but
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: you create some more. So they have money to spend.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: And what do we say, what do they got two
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: first round picks? What if seven in the first four?
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Isn't that right? Yeah, there's a lot early this this
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: coming year. Um. I mean the ramp didn't do him
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: a favor last week. But no, they didn't. I mean
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: it's just that they're loaded for the draft, and they're
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: loaded for spending money. This is not they got the
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: second overall they got twenty six or in that area
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: they'll have thirty you know, thirty four and sixty six.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: So that's I mean, that's a lot of capital. Yeah, yeah,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: it is now. I mean do you pinalay some of
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: that and move up if you? I mean, depends on
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: what the new gms wanted to do or move around.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: You can move up to one and go get one.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: That's happening. Would you give would you give up the
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: second first round pick to go up a spot? I mean,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: what I so we've done in free agency at that
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: point I would get I don't care. I'm giving it up.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I'll give you. I'll sit there and I like fields,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: but I love Lawrence. So if you go, I'll give
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: up you. I'll give up A one and a two
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: next year to go up a spot. You're generous, very generous.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I want that quarterback. I think that that changes the
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: whole dynamic and franchise. Al Right, let's come back. We'll
• 44:25
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• 44:29
  Speaker 1: the majority of fans out there would give up A
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: one and the two to go probably they would? Would you?
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I think it might, yeah, of course you would. I
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: think it might well specially when he gets off the
• 44:42
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• 44:44
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• 44:46
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• 44:48
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• 49:01
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• 49:20
  Speaker 1: been for the last hour. What do you think you
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: over under on what tiny accent shows up there? Oh,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: that's a good one. Will he be on time at
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: five o'clock at the top of the hour or nine?
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Will he be here by five o'clock? I say, I
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: say yes? Just for purposes? Yeah, all right, I'll go yes,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: I'm taking the I'm taking the over. I'll go under that.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: What's the what's the bet? Next time I see a drink?
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: How about that? Okay, I'm I'll thanks for the drinking.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I appreciate something I don't already know. I don't know anything.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, thanks you, thank you for the drink. Early. Um,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: let's get into a little bit of the changes that
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: are obviously coming up. The GM is gone, and obviously
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: the question is what will this what will the order
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: of operations the flow chart look like? Only Shot Khan
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: really would know what what he wants it to be.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: He's had a few different ways to go about it.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: As the owner here, um obviously, the the GM, the
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: head coach, who reports to who and when? Is a
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: guy like Mark Lamping going to be a little more
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: involved because he really hasn't been over the last a
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: little while at least. Well, I don't think Mark will
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: be involved in the football side of things, right, will
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: be involved in the hiring process. I would imagine he
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: would have some input into it. Yeah, sure. So at
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, is it coach reporting to GM,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: record reporting to the owner? Is there like there was
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: in the last year or so, the GM and head
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: coach equally reporting to the owner. That seemed like a
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: lot of moving parts there. Or is it a vice
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: president of football operations hiring a general manager and they
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: hire a coach and the coach reports to both and
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: they both in the one reports to the the VP
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: of football operations and the football operations VP of Football
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Operations reports to John con That's the way it could work.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at at the forty Niners,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: John Lynch, Adam Peters, Kyle Shanahan, and Lynch reports to
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: the ownership the Yorks. So I think that could work. Um,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: if you have the right people in place, it could work.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: If you have a general manager and a coach who
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: a general manager came up through the ranks, that's the difference. Like,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: let's let's just throw it out there. Let's just say
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Boselli was the VP of Player of Football operations have
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: to hire He'd have to be at the top. He'd
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: have to hire a good general general manager or whatever
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: time do you want to give him, Who's come up
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: through the scouting ranks, which Tony didn't do, who knows
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: the scouting circles, who knows the good scouts, who knows
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: how to network, who knows how to get the information,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: and then they would hire the code and usually you
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: would hire a guy on your radar that you know. Now,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: does bes selling know these guys like some of the
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: people in the league. Probably not. That might not be
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: a bad thing, because here's why. Sometimes we get in
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: the networking and I'll hire your cousin, if you hire
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: my brother, if you hire my brother in law down
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: the road, and you see it all the time. So
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: it might not be a bad thing to have a
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: guy like that in that position, because then he's gonna
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: find the really good people and not be influenced by
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: others to hire their friends and their buddies, which sometimes
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: I could be a problem. So it gives them an
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: open canvas. If Tony was in that role, now let's
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: just say it was. They hired Um Ryan colten Um
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  Speaker 1: from the Titans, and he hired Arthur Smith. Then I
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: think Smith reports the Calton who reports to the con
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: What about all this urban Meyer talk today? So he
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: would want carte blonde, right, do you? That's another option
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: to write gives the urban Meyer would want. You know,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: he's sniffing around jobs. He sniffed around jobs in the past.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Remember he had the health issues that were concerned at Florida,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: and does he want to get back into it. I
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think that would be a great
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: higher I'll just put that out there. I just don't why.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think, just I don't. I don't know. I
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: used to have when he came to Florida. I remember
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I did a show with Frangie back in the day,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: and I remember telling Franzi, go, you are going to
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: love urban Meyer because I followed his career and I
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: watched him at you Tak and Frank wasn't aware of him,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: and he wasn't real up on who he was. And
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: I remember telling Frank, I, go, you're gonna love urban Meyer.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: And true to his word, they did. The whole Nagator
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Nation loved urban because he brought winner there. Now, he
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: had some players of questionable character when he was at
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: the University of Florida. That's a way to say it.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: But you know what, if they did that at Arizona
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: State and want a couple of titles, I'd trade it
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: in the mid State. So let's go. Let's go. So anyways,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: but you know, so if you had urban Meyer, then
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: you'd bring in a guy that would kind of answer
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: to him. For example, think links to Belichick and Belichick
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: that you know, you know, shod and Tony Khan respect
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. Tony Khan loves Bill Belichick. Look, I love
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Tony con I think Tony Khan is a passionate, die
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: hard football guy and he loves it and lives it.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: But he loves Bill Alichick and rightfully so. Bill Belichick
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: is the greatest coach in the history of the league.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: So why not lean on that if you have it
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: as a resource. But Belichick might recommend Irban Meyer. And
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: if you recommend Irban Meyer, he might recommend one of
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: his former lieutenants. Maybe it's Nick Kissario, if you can
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: get him out of New England. Maybe it's Scott Pioli
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: who works with me. Now, I mean there are guys
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: out there, and so think about that. I mean they
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: basically Urban Meyer has been a coach, is coming out
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: of the TV booth. Scott Pioli has been a general
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: magic he'll be coming out of the TV booth. So
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: you know, there are a lot of scenarios to play
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: it out. There are a lot of good people out there,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: but you've got to find the right people. And by
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: the way, I'm gonna say this again, Vasselli's not here.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: I sincerely believe he could do the job as VP
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: of of football operations. I don't think he could be
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: just the general manager because he didn't come up through
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: the ranks, but as big picture VP of football operations.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: It's just football. I say it over and over again,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: it's just football. Marty hern is the general matter of
• 56:00
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• 56:04
  Speaker 1: It's just foot. Well, let's say a lot. Then let's
• 56:08
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• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: to the quarterbacks today, you know, when I played them,
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  Speaker 1: I mean all three of them, you know, during the
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: course of this year having you know, I think having
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  Speaker 1: done the way they want them to go, neither of
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: I neither as anyone. And there's a lot of a
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  Speaker 1: lot of pressure to get everyone else around us playing well.
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  Speaker 1: And I think you know, um, you know that's it's
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: going to be important for you know, the pieces around
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: them to play extremely well for them to have success. So, um,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: you know, Gardener is gonna go ahead and get you
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  Speaker 1: to start this week. And I told you know, Mike
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: could be ready and Jake to keep coming along because
• 1:00:45
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  Speaker 1: to go in there and and and win football games.
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  Speaker 1: Head coach Doug maroone today discussing the quarterback position and
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: welcome back Jaguar's Happy Hour j P. Shadrick, Pete Priss Go,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Basselli coming up the aftermath of a loss to
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  Speaker 1: the Titans yesterday one ten the final score. The Jagson
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: now dropped twelve consecutive games, extending the single season franchise
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  Speaker 1: worst losing skid and the quarterback change menshow will get
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: the start this week against the Baltimore Ravens in week
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: number fifteen, and maybe not beyond that the will see
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: depending on the performance. The Jaguars lead the league and
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: player count the number of players who have played on
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: the field this year, seventy nine different players have played
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of turnover and Pete and I were discussing earlier,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: you know how many guys that started yesterday would be
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: starters next year? And now it's on too Baltimore where
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: guess what klais Campbell and Unique and Docua will be
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: fired up and ready to play the Jags. And guess what, Pete,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: you owe me a drink? Tony Bassell on time. You
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: know what I think? I think BASSELLI was listening and
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: he raced to get to his office so he would
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  Speaker 1: make me a loser that you wouldn't make it by
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: five o'clock to me a break? Well, where were you? What? What?
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  Speaker 1: What hold you finish up on before you got out
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: of there? It was not for months? You were you?
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: You played well? I hope because the old saw Grass
• 1:02:29
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• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: were you? We already we had to yankee a couple
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: into the woods. By the way. People called in and
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: sent me a couple of direct messages. They said that
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: it was the best hour of this show. They had
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: in like messages as I was in this other event,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: saying where are you? It's a train wreck. They can't
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: even carry the show. You were getting messages, don't you
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: know you're not supposed to have your your phone on
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: on the golf course. I'm surprised that's allowed at saw Rast, Sir,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: this nuts shouldn't be phones allowed. We've been we've been
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: evaluating the mess that is I was thinking about I
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: was thinking about the you know kind of the show
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: today and and what what what are you talking about
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: because isn't it doesn't It feel like it's a little
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: bit of the same story over and over again. And
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: the only difference this week is instead of being close
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: and like, okay they had a chance, they never had.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: I mean from the middle of the second quarter on,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: it was over. And as soon as you can feel
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: it on that drive where Derrick Hennery got them about
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: five times for seventy five yards right there, it was like, oh,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: this could get ugly, and you almost get the feeling
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: you didn't get more ugly because Pete they didn't want
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: to because they well it was thirty one three. They're like, hey,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: let's just get out of here, run the clock so
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: we can go home without any injuries. That's and they
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: took him out of the game, but then put it
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: back in to get the two under well. And here's
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: the other crazy thing. I bet you had fifty yards
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: and runs called back because of that's what we were
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: saying earlier. But you know what, do you get one
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: call back and then he just give it back to
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: him and you go rip up another fifth. So I mean,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: here's here's the deal. And we know this, Um they
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: lost twelve straight. I'm sure you guys covered that franchise record. Uh,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: all the questions about who the quarterback is. It's important
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: for the guys in the locker room, important for the
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: coaching staff because they want to try to win a game.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: But outside this, Pete, you've been saying for a while,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: you got me on board earlier than any other year
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: it's ever happened on this show. But it doesn't matter
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: for the long run because I'm not sure in the
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks on the roster right now. Uh. We we
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: said that earlier. I said he's not and and so
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: now you're looking at and the question is how many
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: guys you have that are viable NFL starters on this
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: team and what can you build with the next year.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: And it's gonna be there's gonna be a new GM. Um.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: We're not gonna fired up. We're on this not our job,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: but most likely it sounds like to probably be a
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: change there as well to we When you lose this
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: many games, I mean, dougs wear of it. None of
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: us like it. We all want the best for the
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: guys on that are coaches of this team because we
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: have relationships with them, But at some point it kind
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: of becomes is what it is. Story and you know
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: they're gonna evaluate this thing, and now you're looking to
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: next year, and unfortunately it's another year where you have
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: the fan base way too early in the season saying, um,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: the most exciting thing is is who are we gonna
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: draft and who we can get free agency? And the
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: thing that you add to the story this year, who's
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: gonna be making the decision? So hopefully that changes here soon.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: You want to give a campaign speech again, No, and
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: I didn't have a campaign last last week. Excuse me,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: I have no campaigns uh speech? Right now? I think
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: the only speech I have is and pete and uh JP.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: I think you could agree. This franchise has to get
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: to the point where the most interesting stuff of the
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: year is on Sundays during the fall and winter. That's
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: what he needs into It can't be the most interesting
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: time of the year is the off season when you're
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: going through free agency and draft and that kind of
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: not stuff that has to be secondary. The good teams.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: That secondary, the good teams, Sundays the most exciting thing,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: and that's what everyone looks forward to in the market.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: It's the it's the worst team in franchise history. And
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: it's not close. Yeah, that's not close. And we Tony,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: we went through the whole starters from yesterday. Let's see
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: if you agree with us. How many guys who started
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: yesterday will be starters next year? Definite starters next year.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Let's start on defense. On defense first, we're going to defense. Um,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: definitely starters next year on defense. One to name them
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: as you go. Miles Jack Joe Shoberg will both be
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: starters next year. Show it's not a definite. He's not.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of money start he's started that year.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: You can't replace everything he's like, he's a good player.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's great on a team that is
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: losing twelve straight on the pathway to losing. What if
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: they what if they switched to it, what if they
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: switched to a defense it was a three four and
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: he had to play a different style. I'm just telling you,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: if you can't replace I said, I said almost on him. Okay, okay,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: we'll count him so too. Okay, that's too that were
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: in the game yesterday. You're saying, yes, that started starters yesterday.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: There's two for sure. Is Sidney Jones starter next year?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: If you're saying for sure, I think you will be
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: Is it for sure? So you you're you have shobered?
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: Is it for sure? Yeah? Okay, so there's that's closest
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: to me is Jared Wilson. So you got you got
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: two definite though two different to definite two navies. Okay,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: offense um in the game yesterday, I'm gonna say chart,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, James Robinson, do we'd same as us?
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Same as us? And then I'm gonna say, uh, what
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: are you to say to the five lineman yesterday? We're back?
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: I'd like a j Campbill be a starter. Jo, that's four?
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: What about chinal all right? If you're the three wide
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: receiver set? Okay? So yeah, so basically he's a starter
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: because you're usually in three wide receivers. So okay, so
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: there's there's five, and so you're not counting Cam Robinson.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: I noticed. I can't. I can't say for sure started
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: next year because I don't know what the financial situation
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: is going to be based on the consistency in the
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: second half of the season. If he wants seventeen eighteen
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: ninety million dollars, which time, I don't think you can
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: pay him that much money. So is bart starter at
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: left guard next year? I would not know. I would
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: bring I'd bring the world back. I thought he played
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: better yesterday, though Tony. I didn't watch the tape, but
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: on the TV it looked like it was bad. You
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: guys keep saying that you don't think he played better
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: yesterday and I haven't. Did you watch the tape? Was
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: he bad? No? I seem was bad. It was he better?
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Sure going in the right direction? Sure? Am I ready
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: to say he's a starter this year? That's we talked
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: about the first hour. We saw this coming a mile away.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: You're not Anthony Cecerio in him Mark. The first practice
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: I walked up the field, I was like, right, well
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: tell that story for him for those pseudo no quickly,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: So God rest his soul because he passed away. And
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: he's a great kid, a great guy. And I mean
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: he was an offensive lineman and we drafted like third
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: fourth round, peat, third round get out of Colorado State.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, good dude, I mean I really liked them.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: And he came in and where it was the first
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: second practice was the first practice. I watched him getting
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: this dance and we started doing individual drills and this
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: is no paths and we're going to stuff. And I
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: just knew right away he he couldn't play at this level. Why.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: He just wasn't athletic enough. He didn't have the feet
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: and his hips and they're just something you can't teach
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: you you just tell. And I walked out the field
• 1:10:41
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• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: Rick Reaper. She was a world college guy, and he was,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: what do you think? And I looked at him and said, Rick,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: and can't play. There's no chance to play. And then
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: I saw Pete later he was what do you think
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: of the kid? And I said, he can't play. I
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• 1:10:58
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  Speaker 1: help him and liked them and wanted him to succeed.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: And did he get better? Yeah, But was he ever
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: gonna be a starting caliber offensive lineman in this league. No,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: he just didn't have the ability, athletic ability, couldn't bend right,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: and things just and nothing he gets them. He's a
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: good kid. God bless him. He got paid. Unfortunately, you know,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: has some health issues, but you don't see that. And
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: bark okay and here's the kicker to the s Sario
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: story is the scouts had like a sixth round grade
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: on and Tom had a second round grade. They drafted
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: him in the third round. That's true. That's true. So
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, but if you're asking me, I mean, I
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: think there's um so four on offense, then two lineman
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: Chart Robinson and five five. It's a lot of work
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: to be done. Well, I mean, then you have to
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: go to here's a better question. So you um played
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans yesterday. How many guys on the team
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: would start on this team would start on that team yesterday?
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: Good question? Okay, the best player would the best player
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: either wide receivers beating out A. J. Brown or uh
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: Corey Davis. The tight ends not gonna be out there.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: Um now DJ Mett be a third receiver on that team. Um? Uh.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: The right tackles a wash, I mean, and that's I
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: mean dense Kelly, you probably Jowan probably being them out.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: They're all washed across. I would say they're left guard
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: staffles better than VN BArch so called the offensive line
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: wash because they have a bunch of injuries. But by
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: the way we're saying, it's a wash, that's the third
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: left tackle Pete right right, Well, you're the one who
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: wasn't Bake Cam Robinson not No. I just I said,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't now if you had. Up until up until today,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: you've been saying, don't let him go. You got a
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: pep guy in front of them. I said, if you
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: get them for the right price, which I won't change.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: If you get the right price, you not just come down. Um.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: I think I was at twelve or four team before.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: I think I take now. I would still take him
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: over Queasenberry. I agree. But that's my point. If you
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: look at I'm gonna pay for two million for a
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: third tackle, you're not. My point is, if you go
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: to there, I'll do it differently. Go to the starting
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: group that you thought was the starting group going in
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: the season, and the starting group on their starting group
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: on this season. The only you're taking Lawan Um Staffold
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: and Uh and Uh. I'd probably take no, Rale, I
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: take Linder, I can and the other kid are pretty
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: much close, and you know, uh, Kelly and Juwanni probably
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: like okay, it's it's pretty close. All the snap position.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: That's the That's the worst thing that you said The
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: entire thing is that it's close between Kelly and Taylor.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: If you just look at the play be I'm like,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: not like I think the ceiling is. But right now
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: he's us. He's played to a Dennis Kelly level. And
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: that's a problem. And so I mean the reality is
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: is it's not just who do you think are gonna
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: be starters on this team next year? At sub level?
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: Who cares because you're one of fifteen if you like
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: you always say you gotta have some of them back. Yeah,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: you're missing my point, Pete. What's the goal now? To
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: win the championship? Okay, so if the goal like next year,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: like the goals to win a championship next year too,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: Now you have to have a process to get there.
• 1:14:45
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• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: not be at the caliber you need them to be
• 1:14:50
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• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: build it. It's gonna take time. Um, but you know,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: as you look at this over twelve games, now we've
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: had it and you two things you go back to,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: how do they beat the Colts Week one? Fillip through
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: dooom twice? A team that didn't punt um and then
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: you start looking at it and and it's a little
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: bit flabbergasting in the sense of, you know, it's like
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know about you got JP and Pete. But
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: you start thinking about what we're gonna talk about on
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: the show thing, and you don't want to negative all
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: the time. You don't want to kill these guys because
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: I respect him as professional athletes. I respect him because
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: they worked hard. They respect him because that defense came
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: out and played their tails off for a quarter and
• 1:15:38
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• 1:15:41
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• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's a result a result
• 1:15:47
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• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, who cares? What is Matthew? And people are
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: tired of here in their hard work and plan the
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: sick of it. It pains me to say it. And
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: anybody who's been in the NFL player coach anything, you know, look,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: hard work and dedication, everything else gonna They're not gonna
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: make bad players. That the good players first of all,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: hard work and dedication and being a pro that should
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: means like just the base expectation, get out of here, like,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: we don't want you. Like, you need to get a
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: bunch of pros on your team. That's the first thing.
• 1:16:30
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• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: need to get. You need to get a bunch of
• 1:16:33
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• 1:16:37
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• 1:16:40
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• 1:16:43
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• 1:16:45
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• 1:16:48
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• 1:16:51
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• 1:16:54
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• 1:16:58
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  Speaker 1: has joined us in the second hour, and Pete, right
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  Speaker 1: that we both were discussing earlier in the first hour
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  Speaker 1: about possible first round trades to go up Tony, would
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  Speaker 1: you give up your first round pick this year in
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: a second round pick next year, your second first round pick,
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  Speaker 1: the two first round picks to go up to one? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you give up you give up your two your second
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  Speaker 1: first round pick and a second next year to go
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  Speaker 1: up one spot. Yes, we all though, we all agreed,
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  Speaker 1: So two first rounders right, the second rounder next year? Yes? Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: it all herpeat right. Yeah. I mean now, I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: that now based on what I know about Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 1: and the rest of the field as quarterbacks or justin
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: fields is put on words and and the rest of
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: the other guys, that you would consider it that. Um, So,
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  Speaker 1: based on what I know now, my perception is and
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  Speaker 1: have not done any work on this By the way,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: my perception is that Trevor Lawrence is like like much
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: higher number of a couple of notches above the rest
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: of the group. And based on that difference, UM would
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: deter how much of a difference or what that delta
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: is will determine how much I'm going to give up
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: based on what I believe now, what you just said,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: I would do immediately. Yeah, I would too. And and
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: again I don't like giving up that kind of draft
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: in capitable. You go get that guy. You go get
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: them if you can get them. If you can get them,
• 1:22:52
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• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: watched Wilson the other night for b y U who
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: he was spinning it the other night. I'll tell you
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: that he looks like he's about fifteen, but he's got it.
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  Speaker 1: They did a hail Mary and he threw it like
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: seventy yards. He can, I mean, and he's pretty accurate.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: He's pretty accurate to and he can move around. He's intriguing,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: he really is. So like you have to, like, you
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: have to evaluate all this because here's the other question.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: If you had Okay, let's say Trevor Lawrence is up
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: here and you can't move up because the Jets are
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: taking him, Um, no matter what. And would you move
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: back if someone really wants fields, would you move back
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: two or three spots get Wilson and get extra picks?
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: That takes us right into our social media questions. Let's
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: go right into him tonight number one from a s
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: bus and to seven. Could we consider trading back to
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: number six with Carolina, who's looking for a quarterback? We
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: take Wilson and take advantage of what we were seeing
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: from that trade to trade up and get pits. Sounds
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: like a good first round to me, with a franchise
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: quarterback and a deadly weapon. Well okay, but there's so
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: many things here to consider. Um, so if you move
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: back to six, it's pretty far back. And so, uh,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: you know who's picking third, three, four, and five? Do
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: they need a quarterback? Are they interested in the guy
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: you want? Because the other theory here and the Giants
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: got all kinds of criticism a couple of years ago
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: when they felt like people thought they took Daniel Jones
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: too early, that they could have moved back four or
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: five spots and still got down to Jones and the
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: argument the flip side of that is if you know
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• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: don't risk missing out on take him instead of trying
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: to be cute. Moved back a couple of spots, maybe
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  Speaker 1: getna pick here or there, and then you end up
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: missing on it because there's no guarantees that someone else
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: isn't gonna move back up and take the guy you want,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: and you have to get a quarterback if you're Jacksonville.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: In my opinion, i'd be careful of that. That's yeah,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: you gotta be careful with it. But but if it's
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: it workable and you could do it and you don't
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: have a different that big a difference in the grave
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  Speaker 1: between Fields and Wilson, then maybe you do that and
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: get the extra picks. But you gotta, like Tony said,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: you got to make sure that you get your guy.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: By the way, you know, JP you did the game
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: the other day, I saw you send out your your
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: call to kick. Yeah, Florida with the deal with Pitt
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: so he was a late scratch. Florida said that he
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: went through free game warmups and reaggravated an injury from
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: the week before, and it was a late scratch and
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: then and then there were some tweets after the game,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: of course from Kyle Pitts. There was one with the
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: three dots you know. Um, there was a couple of
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: those type of tweets from him, so it made it
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: seem like he wasn't so happy about that decision. I know,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: they certainly missed him down around the goal line earlier
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: in that game. They missed him. They missed him. But
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: there's more to that story. There's something hot and there's
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: something up with that, and um, and he's a great player.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: But I will say that us there are some really
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: good tight ends out there. I don't know if you
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: watch the Miami game the other night, but they're tight end.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: Jordan Brevin Jordan's the heck of a player as well.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: So there are a lot of tight ends out there.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: But there's something that that one needs more investigating. Because
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: when he when he's up, he's the best in the country. Easy. Yeah,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: we'll let you guys investigate that another day. I don't
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: really care why you didn't play at that point. At
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: this point, Um, I just I mean, I'll go back
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: to answer again. I would be I would be I
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: would be risk adverse of backing up if I knew
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: there was a guy I wanted, and if I have
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: them and I can take them, I'm taking them because
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: there's too many things that come into it and you're
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: gotta be careful and you stok at recent history. So um,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: going back to the question, Pete, would you trade to
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: ones and next year's two to get Trevor Lawrence? Um?
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: Would you trade right now with this with the Los
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers? Would you trade c J. Henderson and then
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: and Chase On for Justin Herbert? Yes? And stiff like yeah,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: I mean that's nothing. Is CJ? Or uh Um or Chason?
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: My point there is the quarterbacks at important. You gotta
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: get that right, right, So how about the let's go
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: back to the draft a couple of years ago, it
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: was Mayfield one and Lamar Jackson won the m v P.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: But the guy you take right now would be Josh
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: Allen in an instant. Well, you only bring that up
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: because you called that one from day one, and you
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: I'm just that's you. Love. No, I've been wrong before,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: Believe me. I thought Christian Podner would be good, so
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: you probably did too, But I think you got it.
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  Speaker 1: You have to look when you get if you got
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity to go get the guy, you get them,
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  Speaker 1: don't get him right? All right? Next question, Yes, sorry, Tony,
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• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: which Jags players are in the last year the contracts
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: that you think will be extended and which players from
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: free agency would you like to see until next year?
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: Free agency is who's under who's under the last year
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: of contract that you need to sign? The one guy,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: I'll give you a couple, Um, d wants mood is
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: a good rotational player, and he's right, but you're not gonna.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna. You don't need to sign him, but
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: you'd like to sign him. You like it to sign
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: Heske need like you have to sign Yeah nobody zero? Okay,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: Well well then okay, moving along our next question. Okay then,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, but you have to define need to you
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: do need to sign a couple of these guys because
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: you can't just you're not gonna do it all in
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: free agency. Like I would say, Dwan Smooth for the
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: right price, I'm still looking at Cam Robinson. Um, you've
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: got another guy in Sydney Jones, who you know, can
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: compete for a starting corner and you'll probably only get
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: him at the right price. So there are a handful
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: of guys like that that you have to look at.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: But if you're talking, um, is there a franchise player
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: coming up for contract this year that you want to
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: get signed a SAP because you don't want to hit
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: the free free agency. I don't think that the team
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: has one of those guys. Maybe maybe they'd go out
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: and sign An he can go, yeah, you know, but
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: you look at the Dwan Smooth. There are guys available.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: By the way, Tyson Ala was going to be An,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: the band's getting back together, Freaking Mercedes flower at it.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just when you look at it, Okay,
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: would you pay Letter Williams point, he's played good this year?
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: He really, But what you worry about this is the
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: place you thought he was in all along and it
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: came to his contract year to get like he's always
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: been good, but this year he's like dominating a time,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: And so what do you if you pay him and
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: he's probably gonna cost you, you know, between eighteen and
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: twenty one million to get him, do you get that
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: consistent effort? But like you always Okay, here's one. I'll
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: give you this one. What about Trey Hendrickson h d
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: end from New Orleans? Great this year? Yeah, he's and
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: you know what, he's probably gonna be a middle of
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: the road type of guy as far as the number
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: you're got to pay him. Yeah, I mean, I think
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: those are the type of guys that you know, he's
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: always been. He's always been a guy who loves ball,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: you can tell. Yeah, yeah, So I mean he's interesting.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: Let listen I said it, and you go back to
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: the take long as I argued about it, Dante fallerder
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: Raft it was Leonard Williams or Dante. I said, I
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: would take Leonard Williams, and I thought he has never
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: he hasn't played to what I thought he would be though. No,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: but he's always been a very good run defender and
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: and this year has become a pretty good pass rusher too.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: But remember he played that three two gap defense with
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: the Jets. So it's a different type of deal. So
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: you get Leonard Williams and a guy like hendricks addam
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: to Allan and Hamilton's right there. That's a pretty good front.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: And so I like, depending on the price tag, I
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: mean the one thing like I would really want to
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: do a deep dive and you know, let her lender
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: Williams is from Daytona right down the road. That um,
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: I wanted to do a deep dive and making sure
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: I know him from sc my experiences with Leondard Williams.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: Great dude, Um, but she just want to make sure,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: like what happened this year? Is it just being in
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: a better system that he had that ledge the production?
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: Like what is it? But he is a force to
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: be record by the way Hendricks, Leonard Williams, they're in
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: that perfect Games bracket. Oh yeah, that's right. Our next
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: Questions mission from at Brandon Bush Street won seven Hall
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: of Fame talk. I've been watching freddie te highlights and
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: two things come to mind. One he deserves to be
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: in and two on all the highlights you see Tony
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: absolutely pummeling the defensive end ten or Tony yards down
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: the field. Tony gets in this year and leads away
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: for Fred just like he did on the field. Yeah, well,
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: you know what they don't do. They don't show the
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: runs where Fred got dump for two yard loss and
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: to sell he's guy knifed in front of him and
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: dropped him for the loss. They don't. They don't show
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: that on the highlights. Yeah, why did I know he
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: was gonna say? Look, Tony should get in the Hall
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: this year, and I think he will, and Fred should
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: be in the hall. There's no question about if Fred
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame. So once
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: Tony goes in, I think then it spurs the momentum
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: to get Fred in. Look Edrin James is going in
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: this year. Uh wait, he went in last year, but
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: he's gonna get inducted this year. Coming up two, Fred
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: Taylor was a better running back than Edger and James.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry he was let Okay, yeah, yeah, Tony doesn't
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: want to talk about himself. Let's go to social question.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: The next one from does at buck Eye nine oh
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: four curious if Pete has scouted any of the other
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks besides Fields and Lawrence. If so, who he feels
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: is the second best quarterback in this draft. We can't
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: get this wrong again. I may not survive that. Hashtag
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: Pete the scout, hashtag go Jags, hashtag JP is the glue.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: The voted for you too in that poll. Thank you
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: for the votes. Um. I think Wilson's the third quarterback,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: and I'm intrigued by him. I gotta watch him some.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: More of a boy when you watch him, and he
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: can move around, he's athletic. He does look like he's
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: fifteen though he could pas dustin Field. Yes, do I
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: think he will? I don't know, but good he yes,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: I mean they're done. I think b y U has
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: done playing and Fields has the Big Ten Championship this week,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: and then he'll play in the playoffs, and so look
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs, everybody goes, oh, we'll see, we'll see
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: in the postseason. And not like Clemson or Alabama has
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: good defenses, are correct, so we'll get but but they
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: do have athletes. It's always good to see him because
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: in the Big Ten a lot of those teams aren't
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: that good. And so when you see him play Alabama
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: and Clemson, you get to see him play against NFL
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: caliber athletes. You're seeing Ohio State per Due is not
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: quite the matchup you're looking for. In the Big Ten
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: Championship is Ohio State Northwestern and Patrick Joe has done
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: a great job with that team, but they're not that
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: good head coaching candidate. Yes, yes, what don't it make
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: sense for the Bears to blow the whole thing them
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: bringing fat Pat fitz Gerald. Do you think you know
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: what his style would translate into the NFL? I don't
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: know him, don't, Yes, I do, Yes, I do. Our
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: final question from see stevs uh, well, you look at it.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: You tell me what that says. It's Steve, Yes, see Steves.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: See Steve's is Chark's attitude and effort a concern. He's
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: not fighting through coverage back to the ball and not
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: making the extra effort on tougher catches and seems visibly disinterested.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: Should he be a priority signing this season or should
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: we make him play it out another year before extending?
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: And there you go. That's that's the second one we've
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: heard that from. Did you Tony on the tape? Did
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: you see him not being as interested and not being
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: as into it as he should have been? Because we've
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: seen that earlier in the year. You know, he doesn't
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: have a great body language at the time, and because
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: you can tell he's frustrated, which I don't think is
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: a player you should ever do, because, um, you can
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: be frustrated if you make him steak, which is fine,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: but you don't want to be frustrated a teammate on
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: the field, because it's almost like you're calling that individual
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: out a little bit, and that's what you're gonna be
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: careful if you had those guys throw into you'd be
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: frustrated too. I'm not saying his frustration is unwarranted, Beat,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: I'm saying it's as as you mature as a player,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: you can't do that. If you want to be a
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: team leader, if you want to be the guy, you
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: can't do that. Um, he's not having a great year.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: But now, is it the quarterback? Is it him? Is
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: it a combination of both, is it the injuries? There's
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: a lot going on this year, and um, I still
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: think he's a future building block of this team. I
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: still think that you have to try to see if
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: you can work out a deal this offseason if it's possible. Um,
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: But there's no doubt he's not having the season he
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: expected or anyone else. And there's no doubt his body
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: link which is not very good. So did you see
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: any loafing yesterday? I didn't see loafing. No. I'm like
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: for me to call it out. That's not trying or loafing.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: It has to be like obvious, kind of like the Cowboys,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: like the Cowboys last week. Yeah, has to be obvious, obvious, obvious.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: So like watching, um, you know he got you can
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: tell he's frustrated. Malcolm Butler did a good job on him,
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: and he got frustrated. Uh, you know, and some of
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: the balls were so poorly thrown. You know, I think
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: he just was like, what am I supposed to do
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: with it? Uh? Now, couldn't it could be a fought
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: back maybe on that deep ball, but I think it
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: was almost out of bounds at the same time. So
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe you could question and maybe say, man like,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: just even if there's not a chance, just fighting through
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: and trying to give a great effort show great intention
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: would be a good thing. But I didn't see anything
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: where like you're saying, oh my gosh, he's you know,
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: giving up, or he's lower or he quit. Um. I
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't see that. Um. Is there plays that I'm
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: sure he watches on tape and which is he's got back? Um?
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: Does he need to create more separation? Could his routes
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: be crisper at the top of him? Um? You know,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: could he help his quarterback out a little bit sure. Um,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: I mean he's not without fault. I mean it's not
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: like he can't get better. But if you're asking me,
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: has it changed my opinion of wanting him on back
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: on the team. Um, that he and that he's one
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: of the young good players. I have not changed my
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: opinion on that target Tony about JP. We didn't ask
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: Tony about Minshew yesterday. Let's take your time out. We'll
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: come back and get Tony's assessment. I think, yeah, JP,
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think we need to do there the power
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• 1:38:28
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• 1:38:30
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  Speaker 1: hour on a Monday after a twelve consecutive loss. J P. Shadrick,
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  Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, Tony Vaselli, you know upon for the review. Tony,
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  Speaker 1: You're right, and I apologize for being so aggressive before
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  Speaker 1: If you can't make the first part of your dang
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  Speaker 1: I might come down there, find you and abuse you. Well,
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  Speaker 1: then okay, how about how about them apples? How about
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: them um let's start with a quarterback talk then we'll
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  Speaker 1: get to the draft order in a moment. So I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that matters either. Number two but everyone, there's
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  Speaker 1: no way they can't be number two now right, Yes
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  Speaker 1: it is. They lose this. If they lose this weekend
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  Speaker 1: and the Bengals win, then there's no chance. Remember they
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: only have a one game. The Jaguars have one game, cusher.
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  Speaker 1: If they win one game, they win one or the
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  Speaker 1: next three, they still have the number two pick. If
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: they win two of the next three and the Bengals
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  Speaker 1: don't win anymore, they have the three pick, which which
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: in the next three year they have a chance to Okay,
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  Speaker 1: they're not being the Ravens Chicago Bears. What come on?
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  Speaker 1: Even if they beat the Bears, they still would have
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  Speaker 1: the number two picks. There's other locked in at number two,
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: so we don't need to do the draft power rank.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: So go when you go to the quarterback, do something else.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go, all right? So Glennon started yesterday, he gets pulled,
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  Speaker 1: He threw for eighty five yards and two and a
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  Speaker 1: half quarters, and the gardner Minshew comes in. What did
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: you make of the Mintshow's day yesterday, Tony? I didn't
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: make much of it at all. I'm being honest. I
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: mean came in three the games, like the defense has
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: changed the tempo of the game changed. Um, you know,
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: I think one passing through you know, maybe one or
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: two passes traveled more than five yards. Uh. And so
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: does he give you something more than those other guy
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: with his um, with his feet, his legs. Absolutely he does.
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  Speaker 1: Is he gonna extend it? Yes? Is he gonna get
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: out of there quicker than he should? Yes? Um. Some
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: of the balls at the end were not accurate at all? Um?
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: Is that rust? Possibly? So it was like, okay, like nothing,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: I'll say this. Nothing I saw like. I'm fine with
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: Doug naming him the starter. Whatever, that's great. I've said it,
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: I said it last week. Whatever. Whatever Doug thinks, I'm
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: gonna trust he's with it. He has a vested interest
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: of winning games. I am now in Pete's corner, like
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: it or not, I'm thinking about next year. I'm not
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: saying that's right. I'm just telling you I'm thinking about
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: what does this team need to do so that I'm
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: not talking about next year during the season ever. Again, Like,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: I don't like this. I don't like talking about next
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: year when we have games to play. I don't like
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: talking about people have relationships with possibly losing their jobs.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: I don't like like, I don't like being this negative stuff.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: So I am now looking forward. So if Gardner mits,
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: you start, great, did I see anything that makes me
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: go Yep, he's the guy. Let's build around it. No, nothing, nothing, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: you watch the tape on the run when he left
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: the clean pocket he ran for thirteen yards. Was there anybody?
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: Was there somebody open that he could have hit down
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: the field? I couldn't tell. But you know, in this league,
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: like I'm talking about NFL Open Open, I have to
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: go back and look at that exact play. But here's
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: what I don't see him very often throwing into tight
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: windows and throwing people open, or anticipating where they're going
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: and throwing it in over the middle of the field
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: into anticipation where they're going to be. I just don't
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: see that a lot. I'm not trying to be critical
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  Speaker 1: of the young man. Um, he's a competitor, he wants
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: he works. You know, it looks like he competes out there. Um,
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: he's gritty, he's gonna fight, he's not afraid to, you know,
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: try to make things happen. But do I see a
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  Speaker 1: guy who's a franchise or a starting caliber quarterback in
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: the NFL. I don't all right, Let's come back in
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: a moment. And by the way, the yes, the not
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: so powerful draft order, the Jaguars are number two currently
• 1:47:10
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• 1:47:15
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• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: let's start stimm this week and see what we can do.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: What if what if they tanked and sat down all
• 1:47:31
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  Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, and it is time to go around the
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  Speaker 1: National Football League in Week fourteen and get to the
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: games from yesterday. The Broncos get a win over the
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: Panthers thirty two seven, and in that game through lock
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: through four touchdown passes. Pete, I'm telling you I like him.
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  Speaker 1: I think the Broncos have the makings of a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good offense because I think lock and throw it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: you know, you get Courtland, Sutton back, Judy Noah Fan
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  Speaker 1: they haven't making a pretty good offense there in Denver. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure you sold on, Like I want a
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: gun slinger. I think he's a gunslinger. I get that.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: And I haven't seen enough Piazza. I'll trust you. I mean,
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: if walks the guy. Yeah, they got some talent, and
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: I think munch Check's done a good job of the
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: offensive line. They're starting to play better. Um, you know,
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: so we'll see. I think for sure. Now, I shouldn't
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: say for sure. If they finished the season the right way.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: I think Alway brings Vic Fangio back. It gives him
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: another year to see if he can what he can do.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: Uh in a non COVID everyone, you know, not with
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: all the injuries gets back if he but I think
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: he has. They have five wins now, if he wins
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: to the next three, I think he's for sure back
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: one of the next three six wins. I think it's
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: I would agree with you. The Bears over the Texans
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: thirty six to seven. What happened to Houston, Well, Trubisky
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: and Montgomery and Allen Robinson happened to Houston, Texas. It's
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: a bad defense, it's it's a bit, it's a bad team.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: The team is not good. And you know, people keep
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: comparing jobs and stuff too. Okay, would you rather have
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: Watson and not and have that mess that's around them
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: and no draft picks? Or would you rather have the
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: Jaguars situation with the number two overall pick. Look, the
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: quarterback is great to have, but that team around them
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: is terrible and they have issues that they're getting the
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: ages there. J J. Watts starting to break down. Who
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: rushes the passer? The bad team speaking, they're not very good.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: I didn't seem blind like that though it was bad.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: Might dropped him in this That might have dropped him
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: in the NC South power ranking. Wow, that's uh, But
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: we didn't do him tonight. Remember somebody didn't want to
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: do You can't drop him over this team. Mr Word
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: no stop it. Cowboys so speaking, a bad team's Cowboys
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: over the Bengals thirty to seven yesterday. We'll just go
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: ahead and skip that game because it's no A. Kansas
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  Speaker 1: City over Miami thirty seven. This was ten nothing Miami
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: and the Kansas City stormed ahead and they got close late,
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: and you know what, Kansas City, that's the greatness of them.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: Mahomes wasn't that greaty through three picks, he had a
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: couple of tipped through a bad interception and they were
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: down to nothing. The next thing you know, you look
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: up and it's thirty. I mean, they were just dominating
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: and then to have made it interesting with some nice plays.
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  Speaker 1: But no, Kansas City is the best team in the league. Yep.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: Nothing to add there. Arizona over the Giants twenty six
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: to seven. And let's see Tampa Bay over Minnesota twenty
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  Speaker 1: six to fourteen. Tom Brady a couple of touchdowns and
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  Speaker 1: Pete as you said earlier, Leonard Fournette a healthy scratch yesterday,
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: healthy scrat Lendard four net Yeah that Remember remember when
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: everyone was saying the Jaguars are taking because of getting
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: rid of Leondard Fournett and keeping James Robinson as the starter. Um,
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: what do you think now? It's not even close. James Robinson,
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: James Robinson is a better just better at everything. He's
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: a better foot player. Should James Robinson be voted into
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl? Yes? Yeah, I agree? What is he?
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  Speaker 1: Where is he in rushing? Third in the NFL. I mean,
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: so he's second in the Yes, yes, yeah, he's got
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: I mean he if he I mean depends how he finishes.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: He needs to have another good week case. I think
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: they vote after this week at to week fourteen. Typically, um,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like one and two are clearly ahead of him,
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: but by you know that Daltlin cooks two and he's
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: three on yards ahead of him. But after that he's
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: he's got a pretty significant lead over four. He's a
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: good player. Yeah, he could be in the Pro Bowl.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: Colts over the Raiders forty seven. The Colts nine and four,
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: keeping pace, but they're still back because of the division record.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: And the Jags went on and the Raiders fired Paul
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: Gunther And I've known Paul for a long time. You
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: tell me who's gonna make chicken salad out of that
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: chicken dunk? Come on? How about how about this? If
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: the Titans went out and the Colts went out. The
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: reason the Colts don't win the division is because they
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: lost in the Jaguars opening day. Yeah, and the Colts
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: are the better team. I think they're the better completely
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: because have a defense. I don't think the Titans can
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: go anywhere in the playoffs that defense is so bad
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: have a chance because they can play really good defense. Yeah.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question about But by the way,
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: Mike Mayock not doing you any favors, but silly me stop.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: Please a few more games here quickly, Seattle dominated the Jets,
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: thanks a lot. In New York, the Packers win again
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: over Detroit, Chargers over Atlanta. It's twenty to seventeen. Philly
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: gets a win. Quick Yeah, I want to ask you
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: the question quickly? Does do they move one from Matt Ryan?
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: I mean he was three pictures he was bad. He
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: was bad. No Julio, though, I don't care, and they
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: move Do they move on from that? I don't think so.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: Philly over New Orleans one and Washington wins again. The
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: football team starting to rally. Pete Jack del Rio has
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: that defense playing good football. You man have a lot
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: of talent up front. By right, Buffalo they are they
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: can get after the quarterback, and then Buffalo they can
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: they got big players inside. Tony. That goes back to
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: your theory, you know, block, attack the quarterback, run the ball,
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: affect the quarterback, sack them and get a quarterback and
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: you're gonna win football, but it's not sustainable without the
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. The quarterback, that's right. I have the quarterback
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: Bills over the Steelers. They have a quarterback. Both teams.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: In fact, the final score some Steelers fans right now
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: my debate, Buffalo is better than Pittsburgh a lot better.
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, Oh, we get a sneak preview of
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: the Jags Week fifteen opponent Lamar Jackson and the seven
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: and five Baltimore Ravens are hovering at the a f
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: C playoff cut line. They'll face the churning running game
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: of the surprising nine and three Cleveland Browns. Could be
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: the fastest game of the year. Two of the top
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: three rushing offenses in football. Who you got tonight? You know,
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: I said that last week when the Browns played the
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: Titans and it ended up being explosion. So I don't
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: know how this will play out, but the last time
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: the Ravens blew them out there the better team. Look,
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: Cleveland's and up start. They're nice team, but I think
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: the Ravens a getting guys back. They go in there
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: and they handle business. You know. My concern is could
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: the Ravens be looking ahead to the big matchup next
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: week and they get caught sleep right, that's right, trap game.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: They're gonna rest guys next week the following week and
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: still win, all right, they have. I think the Ravens
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: are the better overall team, but I'll tell you they
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: better trap it up because the the Browns have a
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: really good offensive line. Wills their left tackle, who was
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: the right tackle in Alabama. Pete maybe the best rookie
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: I've seen this year as far as offensive lineman. The
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: kids are stud good in the run in the past.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: I love the offensive line for the Browns. I think
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: they could run it and against the Ravens, and I
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a close game. You know, you
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: know that's why you don't pay Cam Robinson. Right there,
• 1:59:21
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