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The Power of Linguistics And How It Can Change Your Life · Terri Messenger's Genius Zone

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Very quickly. Quickly and cutting through the
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red. Type cutting through.
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I'd love to know different approach with NLP.
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It's using so many different types.
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The counselling I work with is I absolutely love the therapy I
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work with. I work with dialectical
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behaviour therapy. Wow.
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So that's a very skills based. What is that?
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Yeah. The dialectic, the dialectical,
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it's a really, it's a really amazing therapy, but what it is,
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is it it the dialectic of some is its opposite.
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So what we're trying to do is help people move beyond whatever
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their trigger point is. So say it's anger.
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Say every time they feel like they've been threatened, they go
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into an aggressive, impulsive state.
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Dialectical behavior therapy. The dialect of anger would be,
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let's say, kindness. Ideally they get there, but the
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reality is we find something in the middle.
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It's a synthesis right between anger and kindness.
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That's how that's how we feel. So it's like a balance, so.
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It's finding this balance. So the motto is it's a scale.
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It's like this, this scale, but it's also this idea of building
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a life worth living. And so DBT is giving you skills.
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It's it's helping you build an internal locus of control.
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So not an external one where it's about how others make you
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feel. Yes, you know how others
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validate. It's about you validating
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yourself. And it's again, it's skills
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based. It's very cognitive, very
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cerebral. I love some native seebasing.
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Skills and you're practicing different ways of approaching
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life and figuring out who you are.
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NLP though the difference there is that's happening.
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This what you're doing is you're bypassing the logic and the
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conscious part of the brain. Welcome to Edge Radio Australia.
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Absolute pleasure to be here. Really.
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Very much like the thorn between a couple of absolutely gorgeous
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roses. Really do.
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It's not a good feeling, OK? It's not good for myself,
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esteem. Sorry.
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You might get prickled. People have called me similar.
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I'm going to throw obviously straight to the introductions,
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but of course this is the genius sign.
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We have a couple of geniuses here, somebody here shoot kind
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of in the middle who's pretty keen to become one one day, you
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know, working on it. You know, work in progress is
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great. Yeah.
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So Terry, would you like to do the interest?
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You love being humble. Humble.
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You are humble. I must say that is one of your
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attributes. Thank you.
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Thank you for the introduction. And let's kick off about, you
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know, what this show is gonna be all about.
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Yes, and it is going to be on the topic of neuro linguistic
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programming and over here to errands, right?
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Is that right or is it left? Yeah, OK.
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No to errands, right. We have the beautiful Eloisa
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now. Eloisa, you are a counsellor.
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Yes, you also have a honours in psychology.
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I do, yes. And you are now adding to your
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toolkit. I am with a neuro linguistic
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programming indeed. And you know you had a bit of an
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experience. So firstly, let's can I ask you
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a question and then I'm gonna let you us questions and I
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believe Aaron's gonna have questions as well.
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Amazing because. We've got quite a few that have
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come in about the power of NLP, yeah.
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So what made you become a counsellor in the beginning?
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Was there an element around your own personal journey?
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Very interesting. I mean, look, I, I, it
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definitely, definitely comes in, in the process of learning how
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to become a counsellor. I, I think, well, I started with
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psychology. So I started, I started that
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degree and it was proving to be very difficult.
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So I did it for a year, stopped that.
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And then I started working in the industry at the mental
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health Association. And then I started working with
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different policy makers and different kind of organizations
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were in there as well, just working through, you know,
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consumer health, you know, different initiatives and mental
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health. And then I because I was working
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with people, I think I just realized I'm pretty good at
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connecting and having, yeah, this kind of non judgmental
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space and so. You found your.
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Genius zone. I think I just found the genius
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zone that way. I don't.
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Know all right shows I've that that's all we need to know.
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That was it. Yeah, so like the IT wasn't so
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much about my story that made me want to become a counsellor.
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I was more realising that there was something that I was able to
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do and I then was, I had this mentor at the time and he
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suggested that I start the counselling degree.
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So I. Did a good mentor is so
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incredible, right? It changes your life.
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Yeah, he was. He did.
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He wasn't even a mentor per SE. He was a, he worked in a in a
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recruitment company. So I actually found him through
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that process and then he. Would normally never take advice
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from HR, alright. Fine, OK, I.
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Know. He, I know, well, he was
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probably just a special one out of the out of the bunch.
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I think I saw how I was working and he got me that job.
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Yeah. And then it was just he just
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kept following the the journey with me.
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And then he was like, you, you need to do this.
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Oh. That's so good.
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So that's how I think as a counsellor and obviously having
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an honours and go you that's absolutely phenomenal.
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I remember my husband, my late husband Ian said if any our kids
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come home and announce after they leave school that they're
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going to study psychology, let's duck for cover because he had a
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theory. I have the same theory.
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Yeah, looks like that. Yeah.
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Ugly. Yeah.
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And. Now that you're saying?
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His son, his youngest son, come home and said, I've decided what
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I'm gonna study psychology. We both look at each other.
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Failed as parents. No, just joking.
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No, but it's interesting how I mean, what perfect family is
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there this they say. Doesn't exist.
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There's. No way that people any parent,
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even the best and the best of parents are going to make
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mistakes yes but interestingly, you now are learning the art of
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NLP yes. How are you finding that as
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opposed to counselling? Let's.
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Yeah. Well, I I think there's a very
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different approach with NLP. It's using metaphysical energy.
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So it's not so direct, it's using the subconscious.
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And because of that process, it's subtle.
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And it's not about just speaking to the clients and, you know,
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asking open-ended questions. It's visualizing, it's going
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into the it's retrieving information in a very, very
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different way. Yeah.
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And that's what's drawing me to it because I think there's so
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much creativity that we don't use so much of our imagination
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that we just, we, we don't work with and we just kind of get so
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stuck in these little constructs that have happened through life.
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But NLP unlocks that and it moves it away and it brings us
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closer to this actual reality that we're in.
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So yeah, it's through. It breaks.
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It breaks through many of those. Yeah, yeah.
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Limiting beliefs, yes. And I believe that we've got
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some questions. Do you do?
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Do you want to go straight to? Questions.
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Let's get together. We just get to know each other.
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No, no time for that. Let's go.
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Here's the boss. What class?
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Let's go, let's go. Have a look at what we've got on
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the screen here. So here we go.
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What happens to the brain at a subconscious level in NLP as
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opposed to level in counselling? OK, so this is a question for
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both of us, so I'm going to answer it.
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Sneaky person has not put their name on it.
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A ANLP. I'll answer it from an NLP point
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of view. Amazing.
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And you can kick off by, you know, saying how counselling is
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more at a conscious. Level, yes, Yeah, OK.
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So how would you say so? Is it more talk therapy with
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counselling? Yeah.
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So I mean, counselling has so many different types types.
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The counselling I work with is I, I mean, I'm, I absolutely
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love the therapy I work with. I work with dialectical
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behaviour therapy. Wow.
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So that's a very skills based. What is that?
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Yeah. The dialectic, the dialectic,
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it's a, it's a really, it's a really amazing therapy.
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But what it is, is it it the dialectic of something is its
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opposite. So what we're trying to do is
8:40
help people move beyond whatever their trigger point is.
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So say, you know, it's anger. Say every time they feel like
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they've been threatened, they go into an aggressive, you know,
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impulsive state. So dialectical behavior therapy,
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the dialect of anger would be, let's say, kindness.
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Ideally they get there, but the reality is we find something in
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the middle. It's a synthesis, right, between
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anger and kindness. That's how that's kind of how we
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feel. So it's like a balance, so.
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It's finding this balance. So the, the motto is like, it's
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a scale. It's like this, this scale, but
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it's also this idea of building a life worth living.
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And so DBT is giving you skills. It's it's helping you build an
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internal locus of control. So not an external one where
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it's about how others make you feel.
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You know how others validate? It's about you validating
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yourself. But it's, again, it's skills
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based. It's very cognitive, very
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cerebral. I love so native cbti think
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that. Yes.
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So it comes from CBT, but then it brings in mindfulness.
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So it brings in Buddhism and that's that's what dialectical
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that's what the whole idea. So it's using this very like non
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attachment intentional focus. But in saying that, does it tap
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into the subconscious? Perhaps over time it does
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because you're practicing skills and you're practicing different
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ways of approaching life and figuring out who you are.
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NLP, though, the difference there is that's happening very,
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very quickly. Quickly.
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And cutting through the red type, cutting through.
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So I'd love to know about the difference here.
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We love it. So give it to us.
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So give it to it like so when I used to be saying, I think it
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was from the founders of NLP that Bandler had a black belt in
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gestalt therapy. And just to give you an idea.
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So yeah, when you have a black belt in gestalt therapy, you can
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whip the heck out of something, get rid of it, annihilate it.
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However the persons got to be willing and willing to say yes,
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I'm going to do that. And with the subconscious, what
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you're doing is you're bypassing the the logic and the conscious
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part of the brain, because if the conscious part of the brain
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is active, there'll be judgement.
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So they'll be judging, they'll be looking, and they'll be
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looking for issues. So one of the things we teach in
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NLP is the Milton model. Now the Milton model is
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formulated by Milton Ericsson and he was the greatest
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hypnotherapist in the world. I thought he made mobile phones.
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Oh, OK. No, it sounds a bit like that,
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doesn't it? So, you know, with the Yeah.
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So the Milton model actually teaches you how to bypass that
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part of the brain so that the person can begin to go deep into
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their their subconscious. And really, you know what the
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subconscious is? It's your imagination, so
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whatever you have in your imagination is a reality.
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Like, have you ever had a dream? Many.
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OK, have you, have you ever had a dream?
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And it was so vivid. My my daughter had a dream the
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other night, so vivid she dreamt I died.
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Now, she hadn't seen me for a long time.
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She she it was and she rang me up and she said, mom, I've got
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to see you. And I'm like, Hallelujah, like
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what's happened here. She had a dream, so that is the
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subconscious inaction. So when the person wakes from a
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dream, they have actually gone out and experienced it, so they
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feel what they feel, so they have gone through.
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And I know that in some counselling rings, I remember
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there was a pastor who was trying to bring a couple back
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together again, who's their marriage had broken down and he
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tried it on with you're gonna have a dream.
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And that dream is you're gonna remember what it was like when
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you first met, and it's going to reawaken that element of how you
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felt with each other and you know, all of those elements.
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So you know it is really the element of bypassing that would
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be the answer. To moving your own timeline,
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yes. Yeah, yeah.
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But do you have any question around that, that might go
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deeper? Well, I mean, in that from my
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experience, when so Terry and I are training and I'm getting to
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really understand it and learning these different
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techniques and the technique of seeing the timeline in front of
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of you. And then being able to
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physically, like, I mean it's physically in the imagination
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shifted by moving it behind and then developing this clarity
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like that happened when you took me through that in a matter of
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moments, seconds. Seconds.
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Absolutely. I was there, so yes, I saw you.
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Were a witness. Yeah, yeah.
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And it was amazing. Honestly, I I haven't seen the
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NLP done that way in front of me before.
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It's the imagination. And you just clicked, didn't
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you? It was a massive shift.
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Yeah, they say that all problems are problems of imagination.
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So are solutions. OK, there you go.
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Can I come in with a question here about this?
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Yeah, and I don't know who to face on this one.
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Because OK. Right.
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You're talking about dreams earlier, right?
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And and we're talking about timelines.
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So when I was younger, my dreams, I would my dreams used
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to be like a Hollywood movie in as much as the dream is doing
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its thing, as every dream does, I guess.
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But then if something didn't work out like OK, and there was
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a a timeline issue, there was something that just didn't
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click, I'll go woo woo, woo woo woo.
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And I would step in and I would. Stop the dream.
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Yeah, I. Would stop the dream.
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The film would stop, OK, And I go, no, no, no, we have to move
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this. We could change this.
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OK, You'd be the. Producer of your own.
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Restart of. The own dream, yeah.
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Ohh my gosh, that is powerful. And it was a big part of my life
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for a long time. That says a lot about you.
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Aaron stopped in my 20s. Oh, yeah, that I believe.
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Like I love interpreting dreams. I absolutely love it.
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And right there is an illustration of who you are at
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your core, control freak at your, you know, no, but you, you
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are a producer, you are a director.
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And you know, the fact that you're living that out in
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dreams, it's just showing your natural element.
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Sometimes it's not about negativity, like that's not
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always a negative thing that you know where you can take control,
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but that's. Very interesting.
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Interesting that it stopped in your 20s.
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Yes, You know, there was some something that happened in your
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maybe in your conscious mind that.
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Well, I felt like it. Wasn't able to do that.
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Anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So I mean, I know a lot of people know my story in some
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ways, you know, but yeah, I mean, I got married in my 20s,
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OK, And I became a dad in my 20s and then my my life changed a
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lot. I mean, I went from being a
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professional rally driver of having that kind of very.
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OK, now I get it. Yeah, you know, you get it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was my world, like
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going fast and and and that entire the energy of all that
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world was my world. OK, And I lived fast.
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Yep. And then everything changed and
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I had to become responsible and the dad make sure that you know,
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that the the money was consistent and all those sort of
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things, right? No time to use the imagination.
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No, Yeah, he's just had to stay in reality and just keep that.
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And and you keep that cars. Driving that car.
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Yeah. And not only that, but you kind
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of like control goes out the window anyway.
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Yeah, because with children and that you just can't predict.
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What happened next? Yeah, you know, and each child,
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you have three children, like I had three very different
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children. You've got to treat them all
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differently. You can.
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I mean you can try to be regimental.
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But I think you are so OK as a father who has work several
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daughters. Daughters are different to sons.
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So daughters you must in your head when you give them a
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cuddle, you have to count in your head to make sure everybody
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gets the same amount of cuddles. Otherwise, the politics is.
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Incredible. Oh my gosh, the.
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Boys do not care. No one second they were they're
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on. But that's a lot of brain power
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and this is the whole thing. And I think this is like what
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happens in adulthood where you have more responsibilities,
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keeps on, you know, packing on. And then what have we really
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got? Like we don't really have much
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surplus of creativity and imagination.
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And I think that's the difference like when it comes
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into because IA lot of my clients come with come to me
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when they're burnt out, right? They've used, they've exhausted
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everything that they've got in there.
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What? Shouldn't we do that?
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Why? Why do we wait till it's broken
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before we like? Yeah.
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That's a very good point. That's a very good point.
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Before it hits the we hit the wall.
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It's just a fact, isn't it? But the.
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But a really interesting thing is like when NLP comes into it,
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it's like this idea of resetting that, yeah.
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So whatever is happening, NLP gives you that capacity to shift
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what's taking up all of that space.
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So you can essentially you can start again, yeah.
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I wanna hear more. OK, so when we sat on the chair
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together, yeah, as you know, the first question I asked is what
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is it that you truly want? Now, you would know this as a
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counsellor. When people come in, whoever
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says, oh, I want to be rich, I want to have a great
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relationship, I want my whole world to be great.
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Nobody says that. Everybody says I want to quit
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this addiction. I want to stop overeating.
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I want to, you know, get rid of this relationship.
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You know they're always saying. Oh, my bad habits.
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Go, go, go. Yeah, yeah.
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People are talking about, you know, I want to stop the
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anxiety. I want to stop the sleeplessness
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or the exhaustion. They're talking about that.
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But the first question was we asked you is what is it that you
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want? Now once you answered that
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right, you did you notice that when I asked you why you wanted
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what you wanted, you answered with what you didn't want?
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Yes. I missed that completely.
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And yes, she did. Yes.
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And I made a bit of fun of you if you can remember, because you
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know, I won't like break any confidentialities.
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But like when I have people come and sit in the chair, I don't
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want to be depressed anymore. I want to stop being exhausted.
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I've got it, I've got it. You want to be depressed and
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exhausted. That is not what I said, but I
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said, but I asked you what you wanted, not what you didn't
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want. But see, this is what happened.
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This is the human nature. So do you remember that, that
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you told me what you didn't? Yes, yes.
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Now, what you don't want, if we go deeper, is an element of OK,
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you're fighting against that. You don't want it, and the more
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you don't want it, the more you attract.
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It yes, yes. You know what I mean yes yes
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it's it's like it just keeps coming back to haunt you.
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But then when you, because a part of the art is really being
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able to elicit with people what, you know, encourage them to say
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what they do want. So OK, what will it feel when
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you do have that? So if you say I want to be
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empowered, I want to have a great job and I want to have
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really a really good relationship, what's it going to
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feel like? Because it's the energy around
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it. And This is why we've got to be
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careful what we wish for. Because if we say I want that
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person over there, I want that particular man or I want that
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particular woman, they may not align in reality like we're
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talking backstage. They're often psychos.
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Yeah, you know, they could be a psycho.
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It could be impostersy. But that's true, and I.
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Mean that's a really radical. But that comes back to
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judgement. That comes back to judgement.
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Yeah, You are judging that person.
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This is what we do. We are judgmental.
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Yes. The ego might want something
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very different to the soul. Yeah, that is.
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Incredibly. True.
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It's so. It is so true.
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And it, if you energetically want something, you might think
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you want that person, but the universe and the soul, as you
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say, knows whether that's an energetic match.
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So that's why it's really important to go, you know, like,
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what's it going to be like? What's that going to look like?
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What's that going to feel like? But then you've got to hearts,
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haven't you? 2 truths you've got, you've got
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the reality of what is holding you back and what's sabotaging
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your actual relationship or whatever it is that you want.
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But then you've got the want and the desire for it.
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They both actually want the same thing.
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So that's where we integrate it. So the integration comes through
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logic, interestingly enough, and subconscious subconsciously we
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are acting. This is the elements of our
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saboteur that's coming out of the subconscious.
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The logic is saying, but I want to be good.
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I want to be trim, I want to be rich.
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I want to, you know, I feel like I'm hearing that song in my head
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now. But you know, I want, I want
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this, sure, that's logical. But talk to the hand.
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Literally talk to the hand because it's not an energetic
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match. So that's when you do talk to
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the hand and that's all about, it's actually one of the hardest
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techniques to train parts integration.
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Yes. So we did a little bit of that.
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We did a lot of. And the workshop was, it was so
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powerful to realize these, yeah, these, these, these parts that
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we have. And they're both attainable,
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they're both accessible. But it's interesting that we go
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to the one that you know, the one that we're the pathway that
22:47
we're so familiar with, even if it's, as Terry says, the longer
22:52
route to go, to go down, even if it's harder to get through and
22:56
there's more detours and there's we still keep going to that one.
22:59
We. Still want the same thing.
23:01
So we both want the same thing, yes.
23:03
Still wanting this one knows how to get there fast.
23:05
Exactly. And we're not judging that one.
23:08
No, that's the biggest thing. So you're almost representing
23:12
and advocating like I've had a lot of people say to me recently
23:16
around me very close by to me saying why do you do what you're
23:19
doing? You know, like you know, you
23:20
should be an advocate like an actual proper one because of our
23:24
where, but that is where that but in actual fact, I am
23:31
advocating with the person's subconscious brain.
23:35
So I advocate for the shadow. So you get your people to talk
23:40
to their people, but if they haven't?
23:41
Got well, it's negotiating, isn't it really?
23:43
It? It's it's not about, you know,
23:45
judging the shadow. It's not about going, oh, you
23:48
know, you're bad because you overeat or you drink too much
23:52
alcohol or you, you know, you always choose the wrong
23:55
relationships. It's not about that.
23:57
It's about understanding, learning.
24:01
I can hear something wanting to pop out of your mouth there.
24:03
So interesting. I was, so I was raised a
24:08
Catholic. My dad is, was rest in heaven.
24:12
He's up there. But he was a Catholic and mum
24:15
wasn't. So I, we, my siblings and I went
24:17
through schooling and had, you know, went through our
24:20
confirmation. But then when we kind of got out
24:22
of school, we just went down our own paths, right.
24:25
So I kind of went down more of a spirituality, Buddhism, a path.
24:29
However, my mom, she loves Jesus and she's, you know, very much
24:36
connected to God and, and having faith.
24:39
And she said to me today, she just said, isn't about, it's
24:44
not, you know, being connected to this higher power, this
24:48
higher spirituality that lives within us isn't about just being
24:51
a good person and doing good things.
24:53
It's about actually having a relationship with God.
24:56
Yeah. And so in a similar way, it's
24:58
like having this relationship with the shadow.
25:01
It's like having a relationship where the shadow feels like
25:05
this, you know, this part of us. And in IFS Internal Family
25:10
Systems, which is another one of the therapies I work with, we
25:13
call it the Exiles. So it's the part within us
25:16
that's wounded, that wants to be seen but doesn't, you know?
25:20
How has been exiled? Has been exiled and then we it
25:23
it moves into either like a managing position or it goes
25:26
into a firefighting position. But the core self is what's in
25:30
the middle. And so the building, the
25:33
relationship. And that's like what you're
25:34
really saying there. It's like it's not about because
25:37
the ego obviously wants to shut it down, suppress it.
25:41
And like you just said, you know, resisting that.
25:44
That's really good keeps. Bringing it.
25:46
Because I'm, I'm hearing the, because I'm very hyper vigilant,
25:49
yes. And that apparently comes from,
25:52
you know, part of my past and my history.
25:56
And maybe I can work on that. But the fact is that the, the
26:02
hyper vigilance and all of that has, it's not actually a good
26:07
thing, but it serves a purpose. And we've got to look at what
26:11
that purpose is to serve. And I love how you've said that
26:15
because that's really typically in the line of counselling and
26:20
how it would be different in the NLP world is we would go back to
26:26
the trauma. And you mentioned before about
26:29
the timeline therapy and how that shifted things in moments
26:33
because the way our imagination positions things.
26:36
So if you position everything on top of you and you've got, oh,
26:40
I've got all this stuff to do. And instead of being in the
26:43
present, Eckhart Tolle, the The Power of now, that's a really
26:48
good book. You're living in the future.
26:52
And I was talking about this. My late husband was the most
26:58
present, I say more present than Eckhart Tolle.
27:01
Wow. And it used to drive me nuts.
27:04
It used to. It did.
27:06
Because it did. Because he was, he, I mean, he
27:10
would slow me down all the time. He'd slow, you know, his
27:13
favorite words were schwei, schwei in Arabic.
27:17
That's slowly, slowly, because I was like a bull in a China shop.
27:20
So I'd be like, I'd be wanting to drag him into the future and
27:23
he'd be trying to bring me back. Yeah, I'd say to he'd say, can I
27:27
have a kiss? I'm like, no, not now.
27:28
He goes, well, how about now? So that's that's president.
27:31
That's kind of how president he was.
27:34
That's so. So what happens is.
27:36
I'm living like my son for example, and I gave this
27:39
example. I quite often talk about this in
27:42
workshops because, you know, timelining is really about
27:46
bending time because most of the problems we have in the world is
27:51
around time and money people haven't got enough of.
27:54
It. Yeah, well, it's a balance.
27:55
That's what we're always finding.
27:56
Yeah. So my stepson, for example, is
28:01
like his father, so he lives inside of time.
28:05
So my son, my biological son, is more like me.
28:10
He's a destination person. So he's more, it's got that
28:14
that's gotta happen. That's gotta happen and he's
28:16
living in the future now. Sometimes his brother will drive
28:21
him nuts because he perceives him not to be on time enough or
28:27
timely enough. Do you hear what I'm saying?
28:30
But in actual fact, after studying the NLP timeline, I
28:34
discovered something extremely interesting.
28:38
My son, who seems like the vigilant one, the you know, one
28:43
that's going to be on time and great with time is actually not,
28:46
is that right? It's actually the stepson.
28:48
He has a more of affinity with time because when you are in,
28:54
and you'd know this from rally driving, when you are in your
28:58
space of time, in your zone of genius, you are there.
29:03
You are behind the wheel. Yeah, I'll use this example,
29:06
right. Railing, OK, motorsport, but
29:09
particularly railing. It's it's a case of you're going
29:12
very, very fast, obviously, and you're very is there a lot of
29:15
danger, yada, yada, yada. Everything is slow.
29:17
If you're doing things properly, everything is slow.
29:20
I'm in that corner waiting, waiting, waiting for that apex.
29:23
So feeding in the power really, really slowly.
29:25
Everything I slow it all down. And you, you get into a world
29:29
where everything else disappears.
29:30
Just this becomes your world, the notes coming in from your Co
29:33
driver, but you, the car disappears.
29:37
Everything disappears, you just become one.
29:39
Become one. You do, but the slowness is the
29:41
difference, yes. It's, it's also what happens.
29:43
Like I have a friend, he's, he's a pilot and he, he would say,
29:47
you know, their training would, would be in the case of an
29:50
emergency. Yeah.
29:51
You always count to 10. You give 10 seconds even in the
29:55
and that present moment with whatever's crashing, whatever
29:59
lights are going off, 10 seconds.
30:02
Yeah. Changes, changes every bit of
30:04
that. Did you guys watch?
30:05
The movie Flight. I know I've told this on one of
30:08
ours before the well, I mean, it was an illicit drug, so wipe
30:12
that out. But let's just pretend it was
30:14
the subconscious brain and what Aaron said about bending time
30:18
being at one with the car. So you become the vehicle, you
30:22
become the air, you breathe, you become that real present tense.
30:26
So they were going into an uncontrolled nosedive and he'd
30:31
done some stuff that expanded his brain, so he bought time.
30:36
So he was able to flip the plane and have the presence of mind to
30:41
turn it upside down and and land it so that the way it was done
30:47
very sophisticatedly. Only a person in complete
30:53
presence could do that. I have a little saying again how
30:58
many sayings I live by, but the in radio you can get a lot done
31:01
in 13 seconds. Oh.
31:02
Yeah, yeah, OK. Yeah, people panic.
31:04
And then you look at that and you see the time clicking down.
31:06
You think I've got to do that? Yeah.
31:07
Guess what? No, it's an absolute breeze.
31:09
Yeah. I get you now.
31:10
Yeah, I get you. Now, but it's that focused, it's
31:13
that that level of focus. And I think that's like really a
31:16
huge thing with NLP that I'm so interested in even understanding
31:21
on that, on that deeper level that it gives you that in
31:26
present moment focus that we don't get.
31:30
We don't get, especially now with how much oh man, is
31:34
happening in a day, how much, how time is moving.
31:37
Yeah, the way it is now. So you'll get this, our viewers
31:41
may not listen, hang with us, come on with us.
31:45
But if you, because I asked you to allocate your timeline, you
31:52
were able to discern by my questions that the way you were
31:56
doing time is your past was over to your left and your future was
32:00
over to your right. But it was kindness of a
32:03
semicircle. So it was telling me that you
32:07
were slightly blocked. So when you shifted it so that
32:12
like the, it's like the hands of a clock, you're kind of shifting
32:16
it. So you're putting and you made
32:18
the decision. By the way, I said, let's just
32:20
try it out and play with it. And we put the past in the past,
32:25
Click locked it in and bought the future into the future,
32:30
locked that in, and you went, oh, that feels so much better,
32:35
right? Yeah, So what do you think it
32:38
is, Terry, that stops? Why haven't we just as a
32:43
species, you know, in this evolution where we are now, why
32:46
haven't we learnt these skills? Why?
32:48
Why aren't we doing this? You're.
32:50
Not answering the question 50. $4 million question.
32:54
Yeah, it's just. You've gone.
32:55
Up. No, no, you don't.
32:56
You go first. No, I, I actually don't think
32:58
that we're evolving. I think we're devolving, Yeah.
33:00
I think we're going back. Seriously.
33:03
Yes. Yeah, you said about the
33:04
information before, right? So, OK, so 200 years ago,
33:07
actually less than that 200, we'll call it 180 years ago, the
33:11
entire information that a person would take in their daily life,
33:14
okay, in their entire life would fit on 2 pages of the newspaper.
33:19
All right? That's everything, all the
33:21
skills they needed, everything that for their everyday life.
33:24
Look at our lives, look at information.
33:26
Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
33:27
Here it comes now, OK, in 180 odd years, 200 years, has the
33:32
brain evolved? No, it hasn't.
33:33
It's the exact same thing. So I think in a lot of ways I
33:37
was trying to process that much information.
33:39
I think in a lot of ways we've gone the cheat code, we've gone
33:41
the lazy code, we've gone, Hey, we live in a world.
33:44
Hey, AI will do it. I'll you know, we do that with
33:47
so much of our and I think a lot of you know, I'll use AI as the
33:50
example here. I think we AIA lot of our
33:53
relationships, I think we autopilot for what we better
33:56
work, right? Yeah, We don't actually think
33:58
and slow it down and think about it.
34:00
And it can be definitely misused.
34:02
And I think if people are out there using AI for their
34:06
intellectual intelligence, they're going to be in Peru Chop
34:09
because AI, it's input. Yeah, good.
34:13
It's what? You put in, that's what you get
34:15
out. But when you get all of this
34:17
fake stuff. But I digress.
34:19
And you know, one of my biggest clients that came into workshops
34:26
for training and practitioners were school teachers.
34:30
So we'll come back to your question.
34:32
They recognized that if students could learn how to learn.
34:38
So we know that the brain, for example, and this is something
34:42
you will learn on the foundation on the ground, is based on the
34:46
six senses. But the three main senses are
34:50
visual, which is what you see, hearing what you hear, and
34:54
kinesthetic what you feel. So based on those three people
34:58
learn differently. So you might get a child in a
35:00
classroom that will be very good when the teacher is standing up,
35:04
pacing up and down the room, riding on the whiteboard,
35:08
they'll see that they'll learn their visual.
35:12
Then you'll get a child in the class who's audio.
35:14
So they they need to hear more than they see.
35:17
You've lost them and then you've got the child that's
35:21
kinesthetic. They need hands on and they
35:24
need. So usually people crossover.
35:27
So for example, I am visual and kinesthetic.
35:31
So in my way of learning, I will learn better by looking.
35:36
And that's why when I'm doing radio, it's like, OK, I need to
35:40
see what you're doing. And I like to watch and then I
35:44
like to do it at the same time while I'm so I like to practice
35:48
it. So if I'm practicing and I'm
35:51
saying, and so many kids, they will fall behind in the
35:55
classroom and so many kids and we know this are suffering and
36:00
there's so many teenagers that are suiciding.
36:03
And if parents, teachers and every everyone answering your
36:10
question knew this, if this was taught in schools, I believe,
36:15
and I say this very biasedly, we would be in a very different
36:19
world. Well, have some bias, it's OK.
36:22
What we can do is we can jump to another question if we may.
36:24
So let's bring it up on the old screen.
36:26
Is it common that after I did NLP workshop that I sensed shift
36:31
in how people treated me? I'm gonna ask you this question,
36:34
OK? Did you have, did you?
36:37
Can you relate to that? You don't have to be specific if
36:40
you don't want to for privacy reasons.
36:42
No. Can you relate to?
36:44
That I can absolutely, absolutely relate to that.
36:46
OK. And it was, I was almost going
36:48
to call you Terry and just I'm just explained.
36:52
Mm hmm. Directly after the workshop,
36:54
what happened, which was really interesting because we always
37:00
have an option as to how we handle that, those interactions.
37:03
And, you know, I think there's always a taking a, you know,
37:08
moral, higher moral ground when it when you know you are
37:14
presented with something negative.
37:16
But what it actually brought out in me was more of an assertive,
37:23
honest response. And So what that was about was
37:28
like I, I felt like after the workshop, I had this level of
37:32
confidence and this level of being in the present.
37:37
It made it cleared up a lot of space and just I was able to,
37:40
you know, sometimes I've noticed in the past I've, I've, I wear
37:43
the Rose colored lenses and kind of see what I want to see, which
37:46
is, yeah, maybe the best of every situation.
37:48
Sometimes. So they they, they were just
37:52
off. You know, yeah, I felt like they
37:54
came off, came off and they're still off, which is quite
37:57
interesting. Yeah.
37:58
Look, you what you're saying is exactly what a few of the other
38:02
people have said. Yeah.
38:03
One lady said, Oh, my gosh, Terry, it's like my voice is
38:07
coming out. Yes, I'm speaking.
38:09
I'm speaking my truth. And, you know, she works fly in,
38:13
fly out. And she is a leader.
38:14
Yeah. And she said the whole crew
38:18
treated me differently, right. Did they go to your workshop,
38:21
too? And I went, no, like, I've
38:23
actually that was a joke. But I have been asked.
38:25
Question though, OK, did they treat her differently or was the
38:28
perception different? Is it?
38:30
That's a beautiful question. Wow, that is brilliant.
38:34
I. Have these thoughts?
38:35
You know what now is a is a but yes, is is a bright cookie.
38:40
This one. Do you know what that is so
38:43
good. I'm gonna have to really, really
38:45
study that because, you know, my husband, my late husband said
38:50
once that, you know, he had sent one of his patients to see me
38:55
and when she'd done the work with me, she went back to him to
39:00
have a treatment. And he said it was like there
39:03
was a different girl on the table.
39:04
She didn't, her body had changed, so her whole nervous
39:09
system had shifted. And she said, did my mum and
39:13
sister come in and do the course with Terry?
39:16
And it's because there, it's energetic.
39:20
I don't know the. And so I think what you've got,
39:23
what you've said is brilliant because it kind of alludes to
39:26
the fact that it's perception, because if you see things in a
39:31
different perception, it does change and shift the way you
39:35
feel because that's what the art of NLP.
39:38
So I think you've you've got a good point.
39:40
So, so with that then, because you know, our perception, like
39:45
what I was mentioning with the Rose colored lenses and what
39:47
that might then mean in terms of how I, I express myself in the
39:51
world or how I relate to the world.
39:52
If I've got these tinted glasses on, my perception will be
39:58
skewed. So when they're off and I'm in
40:00
that space of just reality as it is, it's still a perception that
40:05
I'm experiencing of the reality. I, I, I don't think I could say
40:08
no. It's reality for the story or
40:10
having our own unique experience but with NLP.
40:15
Once we realise OK, so this is and this is also actually with
40:19
DBT, it also helps you experience one of the one of the
40:23
foundations of of it is experiencing reality as it is
40:27
not the reality that we want to see.
40:28
So NLP and DBT together I think is a very, very powerful yes
40:34
combo of therapy, but. This is going to be unstoppable.
40:39
Look at. So, but what I want to know is
40:42
like when you then are in this state of consciousness, this
40:46
pure consciousness because you've shifted everything behind
40:49
you. Yeah.
40:51
Is it then? That's a good point.
40:53
About realising the capacity to to essentially shift that
41:00
perception to wherever you want to take it.
41:03
So it is what it is, you know that I feel.
41:05
It is what it is, your own question, I'll be honest,
41:08
because you said something interesting at the beginning,
41:12
which was you had more space to kind of consider things because
41:16
you'd shifted a lot of stuff. Yeah.
41:18
And when you're shifting timelines, when you're getting
41:23
rid of baggage, it's like having a huge room full of junk and you
41:28
can't move. You can't move in that room.
41:31
You pull everything out of that room.
41:33
You've got space, so you've given yourself space to think
41:39
and that does change so much. And I, I believe that what we're
41:45
dealing with, you know, predominantly with NLP is
41:49
triggers. So I know you wanted to touch on
41:52
the anchors and the triggers, but just so I can cover that for
41:57
time's sake when we, you know, how we do the anchoring in NLP.
42:02
So we get you to think of something great, a memory, and
42:06
then you anchor it. You, you, you, you put that into
42:10
your body. Now, why do we do that?
42:12
Because when we experience good things and great things and
42:17
exciting things, guess what? We're relaxed.
42:20
Our body feels good. Our body is is is kind of, you
42:25
know, like in that. Slow stage slow.
42:27
Stage, but what happens when we're angry or when we get a
42:31
fright or we're, if we're in trauma or anxiety, we go like
42:33
that, OK. And when something happens that
42:36
locks it in. So we are constantly anchoring
42:40
in negativity, but we're not anchoring in positivity.
42:44
So by overriding, if you like the system, what you're doing is
42:51
you're setting up anchors so that your body can remember
42:55
because your body will always keep the score.
42:58
However, in saying that it is really important coming back to
43:02
what your mum said as well, my mum is also a very strong
43:05
Christian. She hates the word hypnosis.
43:08
So she's always saying can you come up with something else?
43:12
You know, so when we talk about subconscious and I hear what
43:15
your mum says, I was doing some, you know, work with mum this
43:20
morning and I referred to it as God consciousness.
43:24
So it it is the above because it's not.
43:27
This is the other thing. We do not become the gurus.
43:30
Anthony Robbins actually created a seminar and it was I am not
43:35
your guru. And so that is because it cannot
43:41
be human. It's not done on a human level.
43:44
I cannot make a person be healed.
43:49
They've got to heal themself and it's just about removing and
43:54
releasing because most of the back aches, the disease and the
43:59
health issues that we have is coming from a thought that began
44:04
as a thought and has manifested and then become disease in the
44:08
body. You can create an environment
44:11
where it is easier for people to heal in, right?
44:14
So you can't fix them? Yeah, you can just create an
44:17
environment and they have to do the work.
44:18
Yeah, that's the personal environment bit theory.
44:21
OK. So it's literally a really
44:23
incredible thing to realize that when we thrive, it's usually to
44:27
do with where we're where we're placed ourselves.
44:30
And that the difference, you know, from being in a community
44:34
or an environment that's invalidating, that's, you know,
44:37
where you have to suppress your emotions, your identity compared
44:40
to being somewhere, you know, where you can actually be
44:43
yourself and you can explore. It's a.
44:45
Game changer. Yeah, surround yourself with
44:48
incredibly positive people, right.
44:49
And then people have their ups and downs.
44:51
Yeah, but you are. Absolutely.
44:52
You are. I don't know.
44:54
The key in my mind is to to success and happiness, I guess
44:58
is to drown myself with really great people, really good
45:00
energy. Because then you, you, I don't
45:02
know, I mean you. Influential.
45:04
You are the sum of the five people you hang.
45:06
Around you are, you are. I was going there.
45:08
There you go. But with Terry, just with NLP
45:11
and and essentially, you know, it is with the visualize, with
45:14
visualization and, and going to those strongest parts of
45:17
ourselves when we're doing the, when we're anchoring, you know,
45:20
through our best memories and those the most we're visualizing
45:24
those states in those environments.
45:27
That is basically that that person environment fits theory,
45:30
right? It's being in those moments of
45:32
time where everything works, everything flows, everything's
45:36
just and there's a trust and there's this, this movement to
45:40
it. I think that's that's the
45:42
powerful thing. If if we are, you know, just
45:46
full of yesterday, last night, the past Christmas, whatever it
45:52
is, we, we can't visualize, we can't get to those places.
45:55
We can't even imagine that they're a possibility.
45:58
But I think that's the thing. They really are.
46:00
And it's just a matter of knowing how you access that part
46:04
and then how you how it ends up kind of also you, you become
46:07
magnetized to it. It's not about the attachment.
46:12
I have to have this and then I'll be OK.
46:14
Like there's something in trusting that that's yeah, where
46:19
you what you can have and and trusting in that.
46:22
Is our word, though is trusting. Trust, right?
46:24
Yeah, that's difficult beer. It really is.
46:27
Yeah. Trust in in like I many years
46:29
ago, I had a friend who used to do everything he did was
46:33
irresponsible, everything OK and he just goes.
46:36
Was that a judgement? He did totally, totally OK.
46:39
He had every substance and a man in his body at all times.
46:42
He didn't pay his bills. He was terrible.
46:44
OK, great guy, beautiful. Gee, wow, just shocking and and
46:49
I'd say, mate, you, you've got to pay your bills.
46:51
Yes, the universe will provide and.
46:53
Like the universe. Was he?
46:55
Yes. It did always what?
46:58
So the universe did provide. Yes, it did.
47:01
Yeah. You know, like it's just in most
47:03
ridiculous ways. So go on.
47:04
Just on that note, so I am obsessed with a audio book.
47:08
It's a book by Florence Gobel Shin, so she's the author of.
47:12
The game of life the game of. Life and how to play it.
47:14
Yeah. So she wrote that in 1925.
47:17
So it's an old book, but it's literally the power of
47:19
visualization and trust that everything will work out.
47:22
But it's also about this imaging faculty, which is essentially,
47:27
if we have an imaging faculty, which is what Terry does with
47:31
NLP, that's the the concept of setting it up so it operates for
47:35
you. Yeah, yeah.
47:37
That's in alignment with with you.
47:39
Yes, you're, you're already creating that.
47:42
That's already being manifested. And that's that's essentially
47:44
the game of life uses the these types of analogies to just keep
47:50
on brilliant integrating. Yeah, those messages that it's
47:54
happening on a subliminal level, like it's it's already
47:56
happening. You've just got to.
47:57
Be willing the part the chapter where she talks about the
48:02
universe doesn't know the difference between reality and a
48:04
joke. So yeah, if you and look, yeah,
48:08
don't get me started on this. I won't go into how my poor
48:12
beloved late husband suffered a lot of his own jokes, but you
48:17
know, the person who he recommended me to, that book
48:20
said, picked it up and said he's constantly telling jokes and
48:25
saying these things. He doesn't realize that the
48:29
universe doesn't realize it's a joke.
48:31
So it's a self. Some of those jokes, I mean,
48:32
they were funny. They were very, very hilarious,
48:35
but. Deprecating but then.
48:37
He, he manifested it, it it does actually become a manifestation.
48:43
So what you say and you say it enough, You think of it enough?
48:47
Yeah. You feel it enough, Yeah.
48:49
You'll be it, Yeah. Well, comedians must be very
48:52
depressed right now, but I'll go down that world, OK?
48:57
I've been in the stand up world, OK and.
48:59
What you a stand up comedian? I've done stand up comedian,
49:01
yeah. But you're sitting down.
49:03
I know do. It.
49:04
Comfortable. Can you?
49:05
Come on. Just kick the feedback.
49:07
You'll be right. But you get into a green room
49:10
with a bunch of stand up comics, it is the most depressing place
49:13
on earth. Is that right?
49:14
It is the great home of of emotional damage, OK, of mental
49:19
issues. My God.
49:20
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like some people will do things
49:22
that the most. I mean, somebody, I saw a guy
49:25
literally stood in the corner with his face to the corner and
49:28
he's kind of just talking to himself beforehand and he's
49:30
like, he's formed a bit and then he goes onto the stage and it is
49:34
all about validation. So stand up comedians, generally
49:38
speaking, we can't speak for all.
49:38
Yeah. But from my experience, yes,
49:41
they are. They've really got a lot of.
49:44
Lot of hurt. Did you ever see baby reindeer?
49:46
No. It's a really good series about
49:49
a comedian from the UK and someone who I'm gonna have to,
49:54
you know, it says a really big twist.
49:56
But he, because of all of that validation that he speaks about
50:00
through this show, attracts a stalker and she harasses him.
50:06
But it's because of this need to be liked and this need to be
50:12
approved even by this, you know, very.
50:16
Mentally ill person who? Yeah.
50:18
So but yeah, just like it just I can't wait to I'm gonna.
50:21
Say, but yeah, I'll have been that too.
50:23
Like, literally. Interesting.
50:25
Very. Yeah, My experience has been
50:26
basically the people going out there, it's like, please like
50:29
me, please like me, please like me.
50:30
That's what the Yeah, you have 5 minutes on stage or three
50:32
minutes, whatever. You know, clowns are actually
50:34
very there's a very. Sad.
50:35
Clowns are evil and also. One of your.
50:39
Favorite one of your favorite actors was also very sad.
50:43
Oh my God. Yeah, you're gonna go Robin
50:45
Woods. Who?
50:45
I Absolutely, yeah. You know, that's beautiful.
50:48
And you'll be a human being, full stop.
50:50
And yeah, the whole thing's. About tragedy and yet he always,
50:53
and you know, this is the ironic element of human nature is that
50:59
the genius zone and the strength is actually the weakness.
51:03
So quite often they are very good at something, but actually
51:09
they also have that suffering themself and that's what brings
51:14
it all together and that's what creates the passion, the
51:16
passion, the purpose and everything else.
51:19
Yeah. Well, in that world, it's very
51:21
much the case if they don't want people to feel the pain that
51:23
they feel. Yeah.
51:24
So that's they, yeah. That's why they work so hard on
51:27
portraying an image and and bringing love and laughter and
51:30
lights or something. So, yeah, it's pretty deep.
51:33
It is, yeah. We went deep.
51:35
We did. Yeah, we did.
51:36
We did. I'll lay on the couch.
51:38
Or maybe I will. Yeah, yeah, this, this does
51:41
become a session for me every week.
51:42
It's great. I.
51:43
Love it. We're gonna have to debrief
51:44
after this. I know, right?
51:46
So we have we got time for one last question.
51:48
Here's one last. Question.
51:49
Yeah, I decided let's run a little longer line, right?
51:52
Can't hurt anyone now the news can wait, right?
51:55
The news. Can.
51:56
Wait. There we go.
51:57
What is the master key? What is the master?
52:00
Key to know more about the. Master key.
52:02
So the master key, When you think of a master key, what do
52:04
you think of something that can unlock a few things, not just
52:08
one? Yeah, correct.
52:09
Absolutely. Yeah.
52:10
So after dealing with in clinic, I think when we sold clinic in
52:16
2017, I didn't count and it was about 6851 on one consultations
52:22
that I'd done. And in all of those
52:25
consultations, I was able to I guess decipher that people were
52:33
either really requiring better health because people would come
52:37
because they wanted to obviously drop excess kilos being a
52:40
hypnotherapist, they would release it through their brain.
52:44
That was the first master key health, billion dollar energy.
52:48
Number two, people had trauma that came from past
52:54
relationships and pretty much everything came from that so.
52:59
I'm right here. OK, come.
53:01
On key number 2 is, you know, practicing rich relationships,
53:05
yes, what we want is we want to go.
53:07
I'm not a relationship that's not my niche and I choose not to
53:13
make weight management my niche either because that's just not
53:17
where I'm at. But that's predominantly what
53:20
we're trained at at in clinical hypnosis.
53:23
So you've got those two element. So that's the first two keys.
53:28
The third one is prosperity. People usually want to know what
53:32
is it, you know, that is going to change in my prosperity.
53:36
Prosperity is spiritual. So it's more around yourself.
53:41
Esteem yourself worth the way you view yourself because if a
53:46
person is giving away their services or they're giving away
53:50
things, that is a people pleasing tactic.
53:54
And that's because there is, there's a basic thing within
53:57
them and all of us, because we all suffer from this, where
54:01
they're giving away their prosperity because, you know, at
54:05
their own expense. So that's spiritual prosperity
54:08
#4 is the genius zone. Yes, each and every one of us
54:13
really need to know our purpose. I believe that if you know what
54:19
you're here to do and you are doing it, that is when you're in
54:23
your, you know, your space of being totally at one with
54:27
yourself, like you were in the rally car, right?
54:29
So when a person's in their zone, a genius, you'll know
54:32
because they become really magnetic.
54:34
They become really present and #5 it's legacy.
54:38
And the legacy is really about going back and healing ancestral
54:46
lineage and the patterns and all of those elements so that you
54:50
are creating a legacy for the future generations going
54:54
forward. So the master key unlocks all of
54:57
those elements, and they're the five master keys.
55:01
Have you got 1? All of them.
55:04
No, I'm definitely wanting to. I'm wanting to strengthen all of
55:09
them, they all. You can see how they all
55:11
interweave together as well, just I with the with the
55:17
prosperity. Yes, I saw your eyes light.
55:20
Up, yes. Can you tell?
55:21
Me big one. It's actually one of my most
55:24
hugest programs whenever I run it.
55:27
It's the one that attracts so many people.
55:29
I think it's because it's the word prosperity.
55:32
What would you like to know in terms of that?
55:33
Just in how, because you were mentioning it just around you
55:37
know need giving it away yes and that being a very common thing
55:42
that we do it reminds me of if that quote don't cast your pills
55:47
at swine, which is that Bible Biblical Yeah, biblical, but.
55:56
Yeah. Jordan Peterson was using it in
55:58
in terms of we give so much away and we give it away and it gets
56:03
taken advantage of. And that's right.
56:05
More than pray to that myself. Leave where?
56:07
That's where we come unstuck. And that's where we can't.
56:09
So it's is it around? Yeah, internal boundaries and
56:12
around how to preserve that energy.
56:14
Because we don't feel that there's a people placing trap
56:18
within us that we think if we charge too much or if we don't,
56:23
then that's going to take away from them.
56:25
And I'm not going to be lied. Yes.
56:26
So what they're actually doing is they're not only robbing from
56:29
themselves, but they're robbing from the other person because
56:33
they're not showcasing that full prosperity of what makes the
56:36
world go round. Because money is not about being
56:39
greedy or it's not it's not about money.
56:43
It's it's about being able to give and you can't give out of
56:47
an empty cup. I'm.
56:48
Going to describe because you're talking from your perspective
56:52
that giving money well sorry that we.
56:53
Have to give money away, yeah. Yeah, no, but a lot.
56:56
No, No, no, no, no. I don't mean it that way.
56:58
Yeah, some people do see money as as just like literally it's
57:01
just about power, right? Yeah.
57:02
Power and control. And it's a God.
57:04
Yes. OK.
57:05
People who are, who genuinely care about others, who are
57:08
empathetic, then they're the ones that are more open with
57:10
their souls when it comes to money.
57:11
So, you know, it's each their own.
57:14
Yeah. It's their own space.
57:15
Absolutely. And it's finding that it's, it's
57:17
making it so that it's not a about making money your God,
57:21
because that's not what prosperity is.
57:23
Prosperity is around being healthy and having that real,
57:28
genuine, you know, ability to know that you are worth it.
57:32
You've got something within you that is expansive and that's
57:38
prosperity. It's not about being greedy.
57:40
But it's interesting because like the concept of kind of
57:42
containing that and being prosperous, it's like a
57:47
contradiction. Yeah.
57:48
So learning the skills to be able to harness that allow,
57:53
which is essentially what you're saying then allows you to give
57:58
it a give it like share. It you can be more giving.
58:01
But it's like intact, isn't it? It's like this intact ability to
58:05
to to harness it and to to be it and withhold that currency and
58:11
to be able to then. Yeah.
58:12
Share it Yeah, I'd love to add more.
58:15
And, you know, you will probably get access to this prosperity
58:20
codes program because there's so much, most of everything.
58:24
It sounds like it's about money and prosperity around wealth,
58:28
but it's actually around yourself.
58:30
Yeah. So it's actually about working
58:32
on yourself, working on yourself worth and that you are worth
58:36
something. Yeah.
58:37
And you deserve, you know, to be prosperous.
58:40
Amazing. And I think we all agree on
58:42
that. Oh, definitely prosperous.
58:44
We, we that's something that we all should see as a goal. 100%,
58:48
Yeah, we're really sure. We are living in a world of
58:52
being in this scarcity mindset. I don't have enough.
58:55
I need more, more fuel, more this, more toilet paper probably
58:58
again, whatever it is, you know, it's just like we're getting
59:01
stock up, stock up, stock up, prep, prep, get ready for two.
59:04
Rolls, yeah. Two prices up, more stocking up.
59:08
So, yeah, if we can just just kind of scrap that and just, you
59:11
know, consciously act from awareness and from that place of
59:20
what what it is, it's like it's this, it's a mindset, isn't it,
59:24
of prosperity. It doesn't mean we can't still,
59:28
and I don't know, we don't need to be as like, as as heavily
59:30
dependent on or relying on the universe as your preference.
59:33
No, no, no. To pay the bills.
59:35
Long term didn't work for your mother.
59:37
So there's probably something in the middle, right where it's
59:39
just like it's gonna work out, it's going to work out, and
59:42
that's that. Maybe trusting.
59:44
Maybe he believed so much that the universe would provide.
59:48
Yeah. That it was in that trust and
59:51
that faith that he attracted. It I don't think George Michaels
59:55
involved. We have hit the end of the show
59:59
well and truly. I'll tell you right now, this
1:00:01
has been really fascinating conversation.
1:00:03
You've got to come back. I would love to come back and
1:00:05
she. Will.
1:00:05
Be she will. OK, we'll change bums out front.
1:00:07
You'll never find it and. We'll be and we'll be launching
1:00:11
Eloises program. Very, very cool indeed now.
1:00:15
I think very, very excited. Yeah, it is absolutely exciting
1:00:17
and being excited about. And you know what?
1:00:19
Allow yourself to be excited about it.
1:00:20
Yes, something I've been doing. I've better be very quickly
1:00:23
about this. I have stopped myself from being
1:00:25
happy and excited about things. What an idiot.
1:00:27
But honestly, OK, things, wonderful things happening in my
1:00:30
life, God damn it, I'm gonna embrace it.
1:00:33
Absolutely get on board, you deserve it.
1:00:34
That's so much more magnetising, isn't it, than being cautious to
1:00:38
have the that experience. Like if, if anything's gonna
1:00:40
take away, it's the latter, right.
1:00:41
That's the one that's like, Nah, yeah.
1:00:43
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1:00:46
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1:01:04
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1:01:06
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