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Halloween Week: 1911 Death Row Baseball · Wicked and Grim: A True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Halloween Week with Wicked and Grim. I
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  Speaker 1: am your master of ceremonies, and I will be for
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  Speaker 1: the next six days. I am Jacko, and I'll lead
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  Speaker 1: you through all the Wicked and Grim details. Last episode,
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  Speaker 1: you heard all about the one hundred and seventeen year
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  Speaker 1: old world's most haunted doll, Robert.
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  Speaker 2: That all.
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  Speaker 1: However, this time we're gonna steal a little bit away
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  Speaker 1: from the paranormal and go a bit more into the scandalous.
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  Speaker 1: But those details are for your hosts, of which I
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  Speaker 1: should introduce here. It is your hosts of Wicked and Grim,
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  Speaker 1: Nicole and Bed.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks Jacko. That was That was another epic introduction. I
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  Speaker 2: thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Used to the shit?
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  Speaker 2: Hey yeah, no kidding.
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  Speaker 3: We might have to make accurrence is more than just
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  Speaker 3: a Halloween Week.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe we should get some some jack O merch Ooh,
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  Speaker 2: I think they'd be dope.
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  Speaker 3: That would be super dope. Is this like our new mascot?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe Kiwi was our mascot. Maybe Kwi is maybe Kiwi
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  Speaker 2: is Jacko. I can't see the guy all I can.
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  Speaker 2: I can just fucking hear him. I don't know where
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  Speaker 2: the fuck he's coming from.
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  Speaker 3: That I would not put it past him.
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  Speaker 2: Kiwi's pretty fucking scary.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's dope.
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  Speaker 2: All right, what do we got lined up? This is
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  Speaker 2: day two, Day two.
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  Speaker 3: Day two, which means that there is still five days
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  Speaker 3: is left?
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  Speaker 2: Can we math o? Yeah? Five days after this?
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  Speaker 3: After this think I was like, is that right?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's right, makes sense to be right, super cool. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: the cases coming down the pipe for you guys are
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  Speaker 2: pretty intense. We go to wide variety coming at you.
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  Speaker 3: There is actually a wide variety.
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  Speaker 2: We had Robert the Doll yesterday. So we're moving from
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  Speaker 2: paranormal to not so paranormal today, a little more murderous
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  Speaker 2: and skevious today, which is good.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me more, tell me more, tell me more. Not
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  Speaker 3: does he have a car? No, be careful what you
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  Speaker 3: might ruin that song for someone.
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  Speaker 2: Probably just did.
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  Speaker 3: Good to keep it up.
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  Speaker 2: Make a nasty review. Yeah, short story. Someone was yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's it. That's someone was mean and was like, oh
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  Speaker 2: my god, you just ruined that thing.
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  Speaker 3: I can't even remember. It was something that we sang,
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  Speaker 3: and apparently we've ruined that song for that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we upset someone, We don't We don't really care.
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  Speaker 2: We're not gonna apologize for being ourselves.
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  Speaker 3: That's true, but yourself. Don't apologize for being yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Be yourself and be wicked and grim.
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  Speaker 3: There you go, boom boom.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you ready to talk about this totally? You got
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  Speaker 2: the candy ready?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, except then I can't really eat it while I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: that's fair, you know, podcasting, that's fair. So it's just
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  Speaker 3: taunting me. But it'll be there when we're done.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna eat it all and then buy more, because
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  Speaker 2: that's what you do.
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  Speaker 3: I think we've already replaced her halling we can hand
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  Speaker 3: me like three times, which is not the best.
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  Speaker 2: We've replaced it twice.
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  Speaker 3: I think we've boughten three batches of.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's replaced twice. It's not replaced three times.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, whatever, we've boughten three batches three times. Yes, don't
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  Speaker 3: feel bad because you know worth it totally.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you're ready for this, I'm ready. You're sure, So
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure. Okay, So I'm not even going to tell
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  Speaker 2: you what it is yet. I'm just going to dive
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  Speaker 2: in and start with the story.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, the suspense.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so picture this. It's July eighteenth, nineteen eleven, and
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  Speaker 2: my computer just went to sleep. I had to move
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  Speaker 2: the mouse. No, butny went to sleep on me because
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  Speaker 2: I was not doing things. Okay, so let me do
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  Speaker 2: it again. You ready, Yeah, Okay, second time. It's starm
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  Speaker 2: It's July eighteenth, nineteen eleven, and a baseball pitcher stands
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  Speaker 2: on a pitching mound in the middle of a ball diamond,
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  Speaker 2: sweat beating on his forehead, and his nerves build and
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  Speaker 2: it gets the best of him, but he shrugs him
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  Speaker 2: off the best he can. He stares down the batter,
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  Speaker 2: He winds up the pitch and throws it towards the batter.
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  Speaker 2: The ball hurls towards him, but it veers off and
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  Speaker 2: hits the batter in the shoulder. He gets a free base.
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  Speaker 2: The pain from the hit is nothing compared to the
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  Speaker 2: excitement of walking to the first as the crowd cheers
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  Speaker 2: and simultaneously boos both teams. Right, that's fair. But possibly
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  Speaker 2: that excitement is nothing compared to the disappointment and the
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  Speaker 2: anger that the pitcher feels. You see, he didn't just
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  Speaker 2: let a player walk. He may have just lost his life.
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  Speaker 2: You see, this baseball game isn't any ordinary game. Each
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  Speaker 2: and every player on the field for this team is
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  Speaker 2: a convicted felon and found themselves sitting on death row.
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  Speaker 2: Now they are playing a deathmatch. Winners could walk away
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  Speaker 2: with their lives while the losers lose it all.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, no way, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Way, no way, yes fucking this is a real fucking thing.
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  Speaker 3: Holy shit, because there's not enough pressure when you're playing sports,
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  Speaker 3: right that your freaking life is on the line.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, So, oh gosh, let's get into this.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a Wyoming State Penitentiary all Stars were not a
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  Speaker 2: normal baseball team, as you probably gathered. They were a
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  Speaker 2: twelve man team comprised of three rapists, a forger, five thieves,
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  Speaker 2: and three murderers.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, not really the lineup that I'd want to be
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  Speaker 3: like at all, not really what you call all stars.
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  Speaker 2: No, well, this was the state petary country. Okay, so
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  Speaker 2: let's backtrack a little bit. In nineteen oh one, Wyoming
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  Speaker 2: State Penitentiary was opened up during the times of what
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  Speaker 2: we know as the Wild West, and I mean that literally.
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  Speaker 2: It was the wild West. There were thieves, bandits, you know, outlaws,
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  Speaker 2: the whole wild West scenario. People were being hung at
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  Speaker 2: the gallows. Town folks raised pitchforks and protests against those
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  Speaker 2: who were breaking the law, like it's the fucking wild West.
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  Speaker 2: And if these outlaws did find themselves in the hands
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  Speaker 2: of those pitchfork wielding mobs before going to prison, their
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  Speaker 2: sentence was usually much more grim. See what I did there, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted to give myself that little self high.
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  Speaker 3: Five, pat on your back.
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  Speaker 2: Ye. Also last episode I did another little word play
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  Speaker 2: there too with Robert the Dall, because he inspired the
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  Speaker 2: child plays movies chucky yep. I used how the adults
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  Speaker 2: just shrugged off and just considered it was child's play.
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  Speaker 2: But I didn't. I didn't give myself a public high.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to see if anyone would note that. That's
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  Speaker 2: why I wanted to talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: But oh my gosh, well let's see.
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  Speaker 2: Well see, let us know if you if you caught that,
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  Speaker 2: so what would happen is some would be caught before
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  Speaker 2: the sheriffs could catch them, so be caught by the mobs.
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  Speaker 2: Others were broken free from the prisons and taken by
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  Speaker 2: the mobs.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Yes.
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  Speaker 2: They would do this if the law, if they believe
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  Speaker 2: the law wasn't carrying out just as fast enough the
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  Speaker 2: likning of the people.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Either way, if the outlaws were in the hands of
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  Speaker 2: the mobs, they didn't last long. They would be beaten,
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  Speaker 2: and they would often be strung up and hung in
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  Speaker 2: various places in the town.
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  Speaker 3: Holy shit.
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  Speaker 2: At times, body parts would be taken as tokens as
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  Speaker 2: souvenirs by the mobs. Skulls would be used as ashtrays
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  Speaker 2: for example, Holy hat, and even in some cases, skin
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  Speaker 2: would be used as leather for a variety of morbid keepsakes,
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  Speaker 2: such as shoes.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I already thought this shit was going self. Then
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  Speaker 3: that's real.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what you could expect a mob would do
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  Speaker 2: to you in the wild fucking.
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  Speaker 3: West, Oh say, I mean, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking the wild West here. It literally fucking wild.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: So inside the prison, the outlaws didn't get killed in
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  Speaker 2: such ways, but the torment it wasn't much different. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: a penitentiary in itself, no matter the conditions, was considered
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  Speaker 2: quite progressive.
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  Speaker 3: So okay, So basically I just have to say, if
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  Speaker 3: there's any time to be a good guy, I feel
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  Speaker 3: like at that time you'd be a good guy.
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  Speaker 2: I think at any time you should.
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  Speaker 3: Be okay, at any time, at any time, totally fair.
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  Speaker 3: But that is just like I think I would be
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  Speaker 3: an angel, yeah, because that sounds also like scary.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. I don't want my skin to
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  Speaker 2: be someone's fucking.
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  Speaker 3: Shoes really shit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, So now, the Wyoming State Penitentiary wasn't It
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  Speaker 2: was pretty much ran by the man by the name
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  Speaker 2: of Otto Graham, who is an extremely wealthy businessman who
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  Speaker 2: had a hunger for money and not much of a
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  Speaker 2: taste for the well being of the prisoners or inmates. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: he had a contract with a prison and the state,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't really know how this worked, but somehow
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  Speaker 2: he was bringing in over fifty cents per prisoner per
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  Speaker 2: day from the state, so he was being paid by
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  Speaker 2: the state per prisoner. I don't know how that worked exactly, Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And she's probably like back then and that would add
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  Speaker 3: up real quick.
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  Speaker 2: Oh definitely, definitely. It might have been because he was
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  Speaker 2: in charge and he was getting that to take care
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  Speaker 2: of the prisoners or something, but he definitely wasn't spending
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  Speaker 2: on the prisoners. He's spending it in his own pocket.
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  Speaker 2: So not only was he getting this money from the prisoners.
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  Speaker 2: In that aspect, he was also operating a broom factory
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  Speaker 2: out of the prison. While the prisoners were being put
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  Speaker 2: through long, hard labour's days manufacturing brooms for him. He
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  Speaker 2: would clean house with the profece and just again add
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  Speaker 2: more money to his pockets.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's really interesting.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, on top of the brutal working conditions the
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  Speaker 2: prisoners were going through, they were fed just enough food
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  Speaker 2: to keep them from starving. Oh my gosh, and generally
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  Speaker 2: it was rancid food at that.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: So just in case that money that he is getting
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  Speaker 2: paid per prisoner per day is supposed to go to
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  Speaker 2: their care and well being, like, certainly, yeah, it certainly
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  Speaker 2: wasn't actually.
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  Speaker 3: Going to and then he's off his best life pretty much.
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  Speaker 2: So with these things in mind, I can't begin to
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  Speaker 2: imagine the living conditions. I don't know what they would
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  Speaker 2: have been, like, I don't know what they were.
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  Speaker 3: But probably terrible.
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  Speaker 2: Let your imagination go on that one. So either way,
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  Speaker 2: it's a foul place and it only fed the golden
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  Speaker 2: idea of trying to escape, and of course if you
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  Speaker 2: were caught trying to escape, you were killed. And if
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  Speaker 2: you didn't try to escape, there was a good chance
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  Speaker 2: you might end up being killed anyways by other inmates
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  Speaker 2: inside the prison. Needless to say, it was hell on
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  Speaker 2: earth and morale was extremely low.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds just awful.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not a place you want to go.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, definitely so far. It's just like I'm
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  Speaker 3: just like, lah, I don't even know what to say.
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  Speaker 3: You're just really throwing everything out us here.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, Dode, you want me to stop?
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  Speaker 3: No, okay, carry on.
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  Speaker 2: Just can you imagine if that was just the end
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  Speaker 2: of the episode.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well, teculator.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Well we're gonna move forward a little bit to
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  Speaker 2: nineteen eleven. So, however, a new political leader came in
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  Speaker 2: and got rid of Auto and made a new man
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  Speaker 2: by the name of Sheriff Felix Alston, the man in charge.
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  Speaker 2: He's the new warden. Felix was definitely more progressive than Auto.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't think that making prisoners work endless hours and
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  Speaker 2: terrible conditions would turn around their lives very much or
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  Speaker 2: make them any much of a different person for that matter. Okay, awesome, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: definitely is. He wanted to try and reform them, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, perhaps maybe like make this prison or even
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  Speaker 2: other prisons a better place in that regard, so he
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  Speaker 2: definitely tried to do his best where he could.
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  Speaker 3: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: He implemented education for the inmates as well as physical
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  Speaker 2: training regiments while the men were put to work, though
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  Speaker 2: don't get me wrong that they weren't. It was no
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  Speaker 2: longer making brooms endlessly for someone else's profit. It was
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  Speaker 2: instead generally for the public, like fixing roads in the
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  Speaker 2: local area of the states.
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  Speaker 3: Sounds awesome, And you said it wasn't like as long
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  Speaker 3: about hours.
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  Speaker 2: And yes, yes, But most importantly, the men were given
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  Speaker 2: free time. They got time to roam the prison yard
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  Speaker 2: and enjoy the outdoor air and even participate in extracurricular activities.
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  Speaker 2: The favor of the prisoners was the most popular sport
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  Speaker 2: in the USA at the time, good old fashion baseball.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, dun dun dum.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's really a dun dun dun.
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  Speaker 3: Well that you're leading us up to something. Oh, definitely
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  Speaker 3: to the main event.
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  Speaker 2: So the men would band together and play whenever they
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  Speaker 2: had the opportunity, and they took it seriously, but like
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  Speaker 2: not like too serious where it's like they get angry
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. It was all just for fun after all.
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  Speaker 2: But like they they had fun and it was their sport.
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  Speaker 2: They played to win the.
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  Speaker 3: Game and stuff right, still probably competitive.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but for fun all at the same time, you
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  Speaker 2: know what we're talking about. So their skill in the
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  Speaker 2: game grew not only as players but as teammates and
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  Speaker 2: the new warden Warden Felix began to take notice as
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  Speaker 2: the men hit home runs over the prison walls and
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  Speaker 2: even began to throw curve balls towards each other. So
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  Speaker 2: as this was going on, he thought some of the
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  Speaker 2: guys were good, like real good, like good enough to
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  Speaker 2: maybe even go pro. Huh really, So, after talking with
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  Speaker 2: some of the higher up connections that he got or
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  Speaker 2: has that even got him this job in the first place,
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  Speaker 2: they made an official team. They had new uniforms made
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  Speaker 2: and all. They called themselves the Wyoming State Penitentiary All Stars.
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  Speaker 2: So when news got out of this, the public laughed.
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  Speaker 2: They just laughed it off, thinking that it was a
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  Speaker 2: whole farce and that they were going to be like
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  Speaker 2: laughed out of this playing field as they were about
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  Speaker 2: to play a local team, the Wyoming Supply Company Juniors. However,
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  Speaker 2: when it came time for game day, they would realize
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  Speaker 2: just how serious these inmates.
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  Speaker 3: Were and how good they were.
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  Speaker 2: Probably Yep, the date was set July eighteenth, nineteen eleven.
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  Speaker 2: The scum of the Earth inmates would be playing baseball.
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  Speaker 2: But it wasn't going to be a game of sport.
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  Speaker 2: Many of the leaders involved in the team, including Warden Felix,
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  Speaker 2: put money down in the game the Penitentiary All Stars
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  Speaker 2: in fact, Wait what wait? What by that? Sense? Don't
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  Speaker 2: make sense? I wrote that, I wrote that too fast. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So Felix Warden put money down in the game they
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  Speaker 2: put down. He put the money down on the Penitentiary
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  Speaker 2: All Star All Star team, his own team.
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  Speaker 3: He really believe that, Yes.
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  Speaker 2: He believed in them so much. Yeah, and so the
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: men didn't want to lose. The men didn't want to lose.
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  Speaker 2: The Warden didn't want them to lose or anything.
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  Speaker 3: They knew that this bet and stuff was put on them.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they knew because the warden told them if they won,
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  Speaker 2: time would be moved from their sentence. No, if they lost,
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  Speaker 2: time would be added.
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  Speaker 3: Holy shit.
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  Speaker 2: But most importantly, quote individual errors that cost the team
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  Speaker 2: to win would result in death.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Okay, I thought that this like I
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  Speaker 3: was like enjoying how this was going and this this
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  Speaker 3: new person coming in and might great ideas, but this
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  Speaker 3: is like this is terrible.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, gambling kind of wrecked all that.
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  Speaker 3: Holy shit.
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  Speaker 2: So the game was played and was played with grace
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  Speaker 2: as gentlemen. These prisoners shocked the public in fact, with
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  Speaker 2: how polite and graceful they played the game.
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  Speaker 3: Really, even though they had this massive amount of pressure
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  Speaker 3: on them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not only that, but a few small blunders, you know,
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  Speaker 2: away from nerves, like yeah, hitting the picture in the
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  Speaker 2: or hitting the battery on the shoulder. The Penitentiary State
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  Speaker 2: All Start, sorry, the Penitentiary All Stars still managed to
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  Speaker 2: win the game, but not just by a bit. They
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  Speaker 2: won by a lot. They fucking destroyed the other team really,
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  Speaker 2: which is one of the best teams in the area,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, not just like some team they threw together.
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  Speaker 2: This is already an established team in the area.
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  Speaker 3: They had no idea that was coming.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they won eleven to one.
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  Speaker 3: Holy heck.
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  Speaker 2: The star of the game was player Joseph Sang, who
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  Speaker 2: hit two home runs, one of them being a grand Slam.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what that is?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, is that when the are loaded the.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Bases are loaded. So you have a player on one base, one, two,
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  Speaker 2: and three, and he's up to back, so he hits it,
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  Speaker 2: so he gets four players across the plate.
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  Speaker 3: That definitely would reduce his sentence.
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  Speaker 2: Newspapers ate up that story of the whole team and
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  Speaker 2: Joseph being a focal point for that matter. His story
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: was now out though, the public was starting to talk
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: about Joseph and what he did to get into the prison.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: What he did was he murdered his work supervisor out
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: in the street. Holy yeah. However, that work supervisor just
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: so happened to be married to the woman that Joseph loved.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: And what happened is it painted a picture of a
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: love struck man who acted out for the feelings towards
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: a woman, not someone who did it out of rage
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: or some drunken state. He killed this man out of love.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: It made him relatable and even he had some pity
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: given on him by some people.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, so people are just like obsessed with him.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Now, yeah they're thinking that, you know, maybe he wasn't
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: like a villain, but maybe more just like a love
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: struck man whose bright future ahead of him was taken
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: away or something like that. Hell, he could have been
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: a professional baseball player. Now he's just sitting here in
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: jail for emotions. But for just emotions that got the
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: better of him. Maybe he's not a bad guy. That's
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: kind of the perspective that's.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Being paid to. Okay, that seems interesting. I thought that
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: when you start talking that way, I thought it was
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: going to be going the opposite way, that the town
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: would like turn on them even more, or something like
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: of jealousy that now they're like playing on this all
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: star team and blah blah blah, they're like did something.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Terrible, No, they they began to start liking this team.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, yeah, I did not see that going that way.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Well Joseph and other players. Wow, I stumbled that sense
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Joseph and the other players. There we go. I can
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: articulate words sometimes if a tribe, good, thank you, high five,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: yay a plus. They kept playing more and more games,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: and they kept winning too. They had a lot at stake,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: so they always played with their best even when it
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: came time for practice or training. They began to get
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: special treatment at the prison, in fact, which enraged other inmates.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Oh yes, it.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Led some to even try killing other players. Like Joseph
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: who was inches away from having a twenty five pound
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: box of sand dropped on his head from about thirty
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: feet up as he sat in the prison yard. If
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: it hit him, it would have killed him, but he
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: just so happened to lean out of the way at
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: that exactly.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Heck, well, okay, sorry, did you already go over how
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: they like chose the people that were going to play
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: on the baseball team originally? Was it just people that
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: kind of wanted to I.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Don't know how they selected, but considering it's the all
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: star team, they probably would have just like picked the
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: best players, like done tryouts or something like that.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: So there could have been some anger and jealousy towards
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: them from the other end.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Makes it very possible, very possible. Actually, that's something I
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: never even thought of. Wow, good for you.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Good thinking, well, that's why they're trying to kill them
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: and stuff.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Well I was just thinking like jealousy after the fact
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: that it.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Was that they're getting special treatment.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, but it could be a combination of both too.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I never thought about the you got on the team
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: and I didn't.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay, I could. I could totally see that happening too.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Definitely. So more betting kept happening too, More games get
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: being played, all the while Joseph Sang kept being the
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: VIP the game. He kept that status, hitting home runs
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: with ease. Real people are starting to think, surely Joseph
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: was earning his freedom with each game. His execution date,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: in fact, was coming closer and closer, and with his performance,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: maybe he would be set free instead. So there is
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: something in here. Though Joseph did actually escape his Gallow
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: hangings date. He did escape that mostly because he was
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: playing baseball. Okay, so he's supposed to be hung. He
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: never got hung, and he's just still playing baseball.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Well, it's a famous person.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Pretty much. Word began to spread about the betting, though,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: and soon Otto, the man who previously ran the prison,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: got wind of it. From the start, he hated the
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: idea of the inmates playing ball first of all, and
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: he wanted the prison back second of all so he
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: could be making those brooms and the ridiculous profiting. So
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: he had no proof, but he kept trying to see
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: if he could find a way to unveil the betting
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: rinks rounding the baseball team, and he was kept trying
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: to talk about it to those he could and try
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: and prove it. So, regardless of that, over a total
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: of fifteen months, the team played a total of forty
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: five games totally.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: That's a lot.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: How many do you think they won.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say that they won them all.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: They didn't win them all.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Oh shucks.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: They won thirty nine games out of forty five and
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: they lost six.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's pretty good.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Still, that is extremely he could. Yes, an approximate total
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: of one hundred and thirty six thousand dollars had been
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: bet on that team, approximately equivalent to four million dollars today.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Holy so.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Now, unfortunately, the team had been shut down after those
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: fifteen months, through the room of the betting beginning to
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: be spread and how the politicians were using the team
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: to make money. So some of those exact politicians cracked
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: down on gambling to revert those rumors, and the team
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: was eventually replaced with educational programs. Now, what you're wondering
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: about the sentencing, Yes, the players get free.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: This is some of the wildest shit I've ever heard.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: This story correct, fascinating.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: I wanted to research this one for like, I've never
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: heard players like Joseph saying did not get to see
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: their freedom again, though Joseph did prolong his sentence due
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: to actively playing the game. Like I said, and even
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: though three hundred and fifty locals petitioned it. On May
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: twenty fourth, nineteen twelve, at two forty five am, in
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: the shining moonlight, he took his last breath as he
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: was hung at the gallows.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Curiously, so he was still executed not.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Even two years after the beginning of the first game, So.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: All of that was just like a lie, really, yep.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: So the local newspaper the next day after Joseph was hung,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: it read this, his steps were steady and he went
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: to his death in a manner which stamped him as
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: a brave man.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Wow. I feel like he's just like, I don't know,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: just this, I can't think of the words, but almost
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: just like, I don't know, just okay when he first
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: went to prison to what he was when he died,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: like just almost completely new reputation in a sense, I think, So, yeah,
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: it's just kind of kind of cool for him.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Really totally totally, and I can only imagine that it
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: would have changed a lot of the other inmates as
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: well who were involved. But yeah, whoever was involved. I
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: hope it changed them for the better, and I hope
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: they did get to prolong and live a little bit
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: more and enjoy the game. But that is the story.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I Wyoming State Penitentiary, all starts.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Surprised that if I, if anyone, I thought that he
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: maybe would have gone to like an early release or
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: not had to go through with the execution.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Not even him.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Hm hm wow. I can just imagine, just like I
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: think I would play worse like all those people out there.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: They seem like just the way that you present the
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: story and stuff like that, they were doing good and
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: like the pressure was like fine for them. I would
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: be shitting my pants and probably like not even be
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: able to even throw a ball.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: They were just that good compared to the other teams
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: they were playing.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: But still that pressure, I feel like would almost make
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: you terrible. I don't know, but I'm one of those
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: people that has trouble under pressure. Some people strive with
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: fair enough, right, So a little.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Fun fact though, they did end up playing that same
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: team they played the first first game.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: With, Yeah, when they won eleven one, really good team.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: The second time they won eleven to one again. Oh,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: the third time they didn't win as easily. I can't
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: remember the exact score. I didn't have a written down.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I think it was fifteen to ten. But they still
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: beat them every time they.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: So those teams that did beat them were probably like,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: probably pretty awesome.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Probably.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Huh, that's so cool, I mean coolest, yeah, cool, all
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: the things that we talk about like they're I don't know,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: like that's wild and crazy that something like that would
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: even happen. But it's a really interesting story.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: It is. It's a crazy one. So I hope you
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: got some epic lined up for the next one.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know. You know, I'm not sharing nothing. Oh okay,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: I do have all my That makes it sound like
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: I'm not prepared. I do have all of my cases selected.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm gonna make you wait.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, I better do it. You haven't researched shit yet,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: have you?
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: I have? Oh? I had research each want a bed?
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: I know, like, oh okay, I can't bit Yeah yeah,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: but no, I'm not sharing shit.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha?
• 26:59
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• 27:01
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• 27:04
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• 27:08
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